Toscanini about Beethoven and Wagner
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- Опубликовано: 1 ноя 2009
- Toscanini in his own words.
Arturo Toscanini (1867-1957), arguably the greatest and most famous conductor in history, was paradoxically one of the most private. He never granted interviews, left diaries or journals of any kind. But during the last years of his life, his son Walter secretly recorded 150 hours of intimate conversations that Toscanini shared with friends and family who visited his home. TOSCANINI: In His Own Words, is based on these tapes which remained vaulted for more than 50 years. Recreated conversations reveal aspects of the Maestro never seen before. Subjects such as his loves, opinions about colleagues, his clashes with Mussolini and Hitler, his personal memories of Verdi, Puccini, Furtwangler, Stokowski, as well as his greatest joys and causes of his endemic sadness are all part of his frank conversation. Interwoven throughout the film are many of Toscanini's greatest musical performances. 
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MAGNIFICENT! I am so impressed! How much Toscanini was impassioned about music! And to think that he knew personally such greatnesses as Verdi and Puccini!
Thank you for sharing all these videos.
God, this is incredible. I'm getting emotional listening to him describe this. Idk what is it about it, but it's getting to me. Bravo.
Che bello ascoltare questa converszione tra amici.conosciamo il grande Maestro in una dimensione diversa,più umana,più vicina alla nostra,ma sempre ad altezze irrangiungibili!
Marvelous Performance!
The earth has the Sun; Toscanini is like the Sun.
Bravissimo!
Sarah
You are absolutely right !!!
This is so amazing...
Just speechless. Thank you so much for posting.
I am so moved about the way he expressed about Beethoven.
sublime
For people who still are confused - this is not maestro Toscanini in the video but Barry Jackson, the actor and his colleagues in the 2009 dramatized documentary.
2:16 ''The Pope doesn't understand who should be called a Saint, the Pope and those imbeciles don't understand anything''
Assuming the recordings are valid, I wonder whether it's only a derivative of an artist's imagination and emotional experiences or an insight impossible to grasp for many.
I saw these episodes on the public television network here in Brazil and I remember people saying there that it was based on recordings of conversations between Toscanoni's family, which were made without him knowing.
Once again, Ditogam has enriched our musical and cultural understanding greatly. This is so great video, and I agree to maestro about Beethoven and Wagner in every single word. As for conducting, I prefer Karajan. When hearing Toscanini's Wagner and many others, I feel that music is flying from me like a fast train. :) I cannot see everything. Karajan has depth that you may see nowhere else. Each sound of his music is deeper than complete symphonies from others.
1:49
Notice the cellist's hand (left hand playing the cello part)!
One of the GREATs playing one of the GREATEST of the GREATS.
Thanks for sharing what Toscanini thought about music!
Parole appassionate,ispirate dalla profondità della sua genialità
Excelente!! Basic!
For the first time I could see the famous clip of him rehearsing in an empty hall
It is (click) 7:18
Cool to think that my lifetime overlaps with his, whose life overlapped with Verdi.
Yes!
Toscanini was not very familiar with Bach, because he learned to conduct at a time when the music people wanted to hear began with Haydn. But he is reported to have said that Bach's Mass in B was better than Beethoven's Missa Solemnis; considering what he thought of Beethoven (and how well he performed the MS), this is astonishing, and leaves us aching for an AT-conducted Mass in B or Matthaeus-Passion.
FabioPBarbieri Mass in bm has always been my favorite
Toscanini was quite familiar with Bach as many of his comments show. But what he was not familiar with or sure about was the proper performing style for his music, or the high baroque in general, so he tended to leave it alone. When he did perform it, the result was closer to period practice of today, more spare and lean, than his contemporaries like Stokowski.
Bach's B minor mass is the greatest choral work ever. Period! (my opinion anyway)
O maestro Toscanini; even Oswald Spengler wrote that Wagner was the end of music, because nobody could exceed him.
Toscanini, la musica habla, con su prodigiosa batuta, Genial.
Golly...that Toscanini fella thinks pretty much the same as I do about Beethoven and his 9th symphony. (am I being haughty by saying that?)
"... but that clown is ME, DAMMIT" :)
So true!!! I do not like when he talks about Puccini or his colleagues.
Lvv
@Qbendanny Fidelio is not great opera but it is great Beethoven.
I could use a hero right about now- 👆🏽
Arturo Toscanini died in 1957 IS THAT HIM?
In this movie he did not talk about Bach, but he speaks about Verdi, Puccini, Aida, his Love and Colleagues and so on. I have uploaded them.
Repubblica uitaliana
Toscanini: Patrimonio dell'Umanità (ad eccezione dell'Italia dove non si sente mai il suo nome e,peggio, non si trasmette mai,almeno in ricorrenze speciali, un suo concerto)
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@alainwilliam Bach was too far from his temperament and culture. Toscanini was mostly a "Man for Theatre".
@AfroPoli American propaganda...? He was 100000% Italian, for his temperament, cutlure and attitude to music and Theatre!
talk about a cult.
You mean like the Furtwaengler or Celibidache cults?
how many actors have been hired to impersonate furtwängler or celibidache? (and i’m not even counting zeffirelli’s “il giovane toscanini”.)
how many actors have been hired to impersonate furtwängler or celibidache? (and i’m not even counting zeffirelli’s “il giovane toscanini”.) oh, right: “taking sides”, which doesn’t exactly por-tray w.f. as a cult figure.
Celibidache none that I know of though his sexist mysogynistic attempt to keep a woman out of the 1st trombone chair of the Munich Phil would make a great absurdist comedy. Furtwangler three times that I know of, most famously Taking Sides.
clue me in as to the other two, per favore.