First AoE2 DE Commentary! DauT vs Hera!
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- Опубликовано: 22 авг 2024
- This was my first bit of commentary on AoE2 DE Gameplay between DauT (Cumans) and Hera (Bulgarians)! I forgot to enable the high graphics for this actually, but it was a lot of fun and these new civs seem very interesting. We will continue to explore the new civs and game over the next few days on the RUclips and Twitch channel.
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I didn't toggle on the enhanced graphics for this cause I'm a noob, but the game was absolute quality and figured I'd send it here anyhow. I should have my Cuman civ video later this afternoon for you all. It's a really sick civ!
Was wondering if the blurriness was just me XD Can't wait to see a video with better graphics!!
I do not know how to tell you but it is not (kreepost but krEpost , also it is not baGAINs (no gains really) but baga ins( like inn ) :D
Does this mean we'll get 1080 resolution on RUclips? If so, I'm super stoked for that.
Me: I'm excited about Daut vs Hera with the new civs.
T90: LOOK AT THE BIRD!
xD
Minor DE nitpick: I'm not super keen on the spectator overlay. I liked seeing the tech progress in AOC, and pretty much everything the guys at Capture Age brought to the game. Fortunately, that means that there might be some room for them to improve on the new formula...
Agreed, Capture Age is a perfect overlay, easy to understand but this one ain't too bad either and as you said it can still be improved.
The sad part is, if Aoe2 DE makes Original Aoe2 absolete, then what will happen to the poor capture age team? They worked hard on they're project but as things stand, DE is an improvement, one that has everything than Original Aoe2 has (except stuff that was made in time like mods and maps, unless Microsoft somehow made those things compatible to DE).
@@birisuandrei2866 DE is still built on the same engine as the original game, so depending on how the program is built, not all the work the Capture Age team done is lost, it might take them a while to adapt to the new system changes, but it could be pretty fast before a new version of Capture Age that works with DE is out.
I'm sure they'll get around to it eventually.
@@beganfish that would be good, i know that DE is same engine, but usually when a game gets remastered some data gets deleted, some systems are swapped with better ones.
Is DE the same engine...? I would have thought they'd have to rip out half the engine to put any of these graphical effects in, and for sure they've revamped the MP protocol. I think it uses similar protocols for stuff like maps though. CA guys are in the dark but I reckon MS know they'll embiggen the competitive scene so I reckon they'll be happy to keep them onboard
Hera: Building Krepost
T90: *"He is dropping Creep Post!"*
Also, I like how the game looks and new civs, but a little bit concern if it would divide player base. Hell, there are literally THREE versions of the game at this point.
I agree krepost should be smaller. They're kinda between a tower and castle, so it makes sense for the scale of the graphic to be in between.
Logically that makes sense, but from a game mechanic perspective, it might make the seemingly already op Bulgarians, a tad bit more op
@@ShirotheWiseWolf Which game design perspective? Mine is that it's better to start it op and at least know it's interesting. Rather than preemptively nerfing and never finding the fun. It's a unique structure that adds variety.
To your point about actual balance though, I feel like blocking off more map space makes it stronger. Aggressive drops deny space(usually at a resource location or chokepoint). Part of that is it's ability to physically block pathing, in addition to the range/damage around its location.
@@AdobadoFantastico aye, I see your point, fair, I guess time'll tell how they're used.
@@ShirotheWiseWolf if they were clearly lower than castle it would still look appropriately smaller without changing anything about the ground usage
i think just making the massive rear tower of regular tower width would be enough to make it look appropriately
If it become smaller, it can placed on small gap and make this thing easier to place anywhere
damn, that is a great job with the graphics. it looks a bit more modern but they essentially kept the old look. you recognize things automatically (with the exception of a few special units in my opinion) without thinking
...and the era of "DauT Krepost" has begun.
I need to adjust my eyes and get used to this, I have a hard time seeing what's going on or identifying units, especially in fights. I hope it's just something I'll get used to, older AOE2 benefitted from very simple animations and unit models especially given the number of units.
Had the same problem with aoe DE
Couldn't agree more
Yeah you get used to it 3-4 games in.
i had no problem whatsoever identifying units from the beginning.
i did have problems with some buildings from some civs though. i couldn't find where my enemy hid his siege workshop, and turns out his "markets" were siege workshops. but meh, i'll get used to that.
you need to go through 10 matches and then you got it. The only problem i have is that i dont knowe if or how you can zoom in the minimap. I hahve verry bad eyes ( 5% one the left and 25 on the right) and struggle with the colors and the pure tinyness of the mnimap, its funny to see me go panicmode whenever I have to figure out where the fck i get attaced^^. But just play 10 games and than you will be familiar with the units. Sry for my english, didnt write a comment in the last 4 years ;)
I'm from NZ and it's always been a pain for me when every game I play in lags, especially the team games. I'm so hyped to get rid of the lag, finally. Everything looks amazing!
Hello from Athens, friend! Long time since I first subbed to you- it's 3 years and something now- but I always watch your videos. Well, this seems to be a really definitive edition, I'm hypped to get it as soon as I can. Unfortunately, my work prevents me from this... But I see that the dev team has done a good job and the new civs are very good. Steppe-themed, they seem, and variants of Slavs, I think. Not a bad idea, as there are variations of all the civ types, so as to have variety. As an analyst and good with numbers, I see that they have some work to do, in order to balance the new civs and discover antidotes to their advantages. But overall, it's a great game. Not a surprise though, as AOE 2 hides many of these, that's why it is the best game ever created- at least in my opinion, since I'm playing it for 20 years (started in 1999)...
Love it! Got a second job just to get a new computer and to buy this game! Thank you so much to creators, financiers, and champs in the community like t90!
I cannot wait for this! I played the crap out of AoE2 back during the MSN Zone days. I swear I had the fastest castle times around. :) I still play AoE regularly but I'm not good anymore. Hoping get back to form in this game.
Find yourself a man who loves you as much as T90 loves bird glitches
the building collapse animation is dope
Some parts, e.g. the fields and the people look a bit blurred, and the colors and contrasts aren't as nice as in HD.
That might be the settings. Other videos have seemed more contrasty..
yeah, looks blurred
Pretty sure its the Bloom effect which can be turned off
Check out the pinned comment if u didn't, he said that he forgot to adjust the settings so everything looks worse than it should be
Krepost in a native language would have another letter following the T as with the Russian крепость. it's a silent letter that changes how the T sounds.
it's basically like "paste" or "state", so imagine saying paste but replace the "a" with an "o" and you get the same thing: Kre-post'e'
Insightful!
Thanks
it should be called "kumen Foosh" since it has to be feudal age.
"I saw that at McDonalds once. Bird flew against the window. Birb was just dead."
- T90, commentator, philosopher, lover.
LOL! :D I know the quote is out of context but haha.
First AoE2:DE cast with Our Lord and Saviour winning the game? Something goes right in the universe.
dat "Krepost" built at 18:32 instantly double killed those two cav archers. brilliant!
3:13 “boii you still looking at the chat @youtubeviewer ?”
Yes, Yes I am still looking at the chat.
omg i tought DE means Deutsch, which means German in German.
I was hoping to hear T90 speak German with super strong accent.
the graphics seems very blurry.
@@ScribblesOfOwls I suspect it's the color palette / contrast that does it. Units and buildings are simply a brighter color in standard AoE2, which makes everything stand out more. Additionally I suspect it's a sharpness/smoothness thing. The low-res nature of standards AoE2 actually helps it, since edges become sharper which again helps define foreground from background. DE2 is much higher res and therefore smoother, having the opposite effect.
ive seen this in a lot of games. compared to old sc, diablo2, quake live all the next version have these blurry graphics. I has smth to do with engine shared. I never played quake champions but watching streems the game feels so heavy in comparison.
I played it with enhaned graphics and it looked good.
Map scrolling seems a bit jittery, to the point of being bothersome. Was that an issue with the recording software or comp specs? Considering getting the DE version but want to know how well it actually runs
Well AOE 1 DE has heaps of frame dips and stuttering even on high end specs, so don't get hopes up.
I hope some of those SFX are still placeholders; things like the boar, woodcutting for instance sound worse than the old version.
I think they sound cooler and more realistic, but I'm pretty sure that if you don't like em someone's surely gonna make a mod that brings back the old ones
Viper stating in his cumans-overview, that they can't get tr'ed really - Hera (Mini-)Castlerushes instead xD
Am I the only one who really likes the new graphics? I definitely think it's an improvement, having no problems identifying the units or anything. This looks amazing, how can everyone be so negative? Unless it's lacking gameplay wise, like how HD screwed up the pathfinding and stuff, I'm really hyped for DE. So far, well done Forgotten Empires!
I see a lot of mixed opinions in these comments. Half of people are like "I don't like the graphics because I can't distinguish which unit is which" and others don't have any such problems. But I think that once people get used to this game, they'll stop complaining
@@xenhysics5926 They are just dumb, as always people critique things to shit before they actually have the chance to try it. I turned on enhanced graphics pack and I could actually tell the Cataphract was a Scholarii. So they put in a lot of nice details.
I love how many different games you said “first game of DE” and chat was like you mean 2nd time or 3rd time 11.
Will low volume background music be part of all casts going forward? Because it's awesome!
Nobody:
T90: look its a Bird glitch
T90 are you running the game at 720p and streaming to 1080p? Everything is so blurry compared to actual 1080p footage that I saw today on Mixer. Hmmm
Everyone's saying "ah Cumans can boom in feudal" I'm thinking "ah, Cumans can douche in feudal with no consequences"...
man at arms into fc krepost drop (or defence if forwarded) will be new meta.
omg it's like i put on glasses
before going to sleep
12:53 I am actually kind of sad to see this go because I saw Viper used this for a masterpiece where he collected wood from a tree, then clicked stone, and kept doing that till he manages to cut through the tree for a sneak. It makes sense for gameplay reasons obviously, but no more of those masterpieces:(
why is the cursor so tiny?
I don't know but I prefer the HD grafic, I'll definitelly buy it and maybe it just takes a few hours to get used to.
Probably just takes a bit to get used to
I played the beta and for me it was exactly as u say. First i needed a few houers but the time i got used to it i never wanna go back.
It's much smoother and nicer than HD and classic
The kipchek is like a cho ku nu on horse with instant fire... WTF is this xD
Hey t90 just refer to kreposts as fortresses, krepost stands for fortress and or keep in russian, bulgarian and a few other slavic languages
For example the asenova krepost in bulgaria.
P.s. the krepost in game might bin modeled after the asens fortress.
(Asenova krepost)
So many of these new features have been in AoM for forever
9:00 When you said that they were mainly focusing on performance for a few months, that's typically how it goes in the games industry. Art/programming have a cutoff date for features months before full release in order to fix issues and optimise the game. Features only get added in during this time if they are small enough to be thoroughly tested in a short period. Even something as small as UI elements have the power to be game-breaking, which is why beta tests are only used to fix crashes/bugs, rather than bring in new features.
the creepposts melted the cav archers
Not a fan of Microsoft recharging me for the same game for the 3rd time in a few years. Probably won't be buying DE.
I mean, HD was the first digital release for AoE2, and you could argue that it was worth it for that alone despite all the crappiness of HD. Just not having to bother with the CDs and stuff.
And DE2 has completely revamped graphics, new civs, significant balance changes, lots of quality of life improvements, and you also get a reduced price if you already own HD.
They're not being greedy with this I don't think. The only bad part of DE2 is that it could seriously fracture the player- and watcherbase.
The graphics look a lot like rise of nation..shame that it lost a lot of the precision and the lowkey aesthetic of the original
looks a lot more cartoony, especially the mounted units
I don't have problem with this graphics. As long as the steam workshop is supported and modding is possible.
@@tamaiantama the steam workshop won't be available because Microsoft wants everyone to get mods from the same places (such as modding sites), and that's because AoE2 DE will also be available on the Microsoft store which doesn't have a workshop system like steam does.
But at the end of the day you will be able to mod it, there's a "mods" button on the main menu of the game, but it won't be as easy as clicking on a subscribe button anymore
@@xenhysics5926 Hm. Moddinh sites? Is that AOK Heaven? I'm familiar with that one before I use the Steam version of AOE2. Doesn't matter. 😁
I played it and it's just a nicer version of HD. Your complaints are baseless.
Hera vs Our Sord and Lavior DAAAAAUIUUUTTTT!!!!
t90 get mad at 8:00
Daut! Daut! Daut! SlOwAnDsTeAdY Daut! Daut! Daut!
I had a pet dove who I kept her cage in a window (it was a gift). One night a big crash shook the window and scared the hell outta me. I went outside to find a concussed owl on the ground trying to get up, he did eventually and flew off. The next day tho, there was a perfect owl silhouette on the glass made of very fine dust, with his little talons open lined up right at where the dove sleeps. it was pretty cool, that window glitched his ass big time.
60 FPS and more than 3 pixels per unit looks amazing!
I had a stroke reading that title
Daut going full Daut. Lmao. Holes in walls, no military, full boom.
I love how "Ok, boomer" can mean a completely different thing in the AoE world 😂
Is it just me or does the cav archer sounds like the knight in empire earth?
I am HYPED, this looks so sick!
Can't wait for Forest Nothing Definitive Edition
double TC drop :D
Awesome. On my Phone Screen literally can't distinguish between HD and DE
This update to capture age is weird... /s
But in all seriousness the biggest strength of HD version + capture age is how easy it is to follow games on mobile. With these graphics and overlay its difficult to follow from time to time.
Just call them strongholds. That is the translation, afterall. Literal.
I really have to get adjusted to the new look of the units. I do have a hard time seeing which unit is what. In HD it was easier to see the differences. But will get there.
not liking the remastered ost
Pretty sure someone's gonna make a nostalgia music mod that brings back the classic ost once the game comes out
@@xenhysics5926 there is an option to switch to classic ost in game
YES DEFINITIVE EDITION
A new era.
it's made of clay @_@ rofl
nice content as always! keep it up mate!
cheers
Anyone else feeling like the Dark Age Town Center could use a bigger overhaul? The first ten seconds of the video had me wondering if it really was DE or HD.
Wow, im so used to seeing smal trees, those are some big tress ;)
I still have such a hard time seeing arrows, especially on some surfaces. :(
Looks really great so far
@thehidencup, recorded at minute 19:54 of this video: coined "the krush"
Let it be known! The "krush" is a great name for this
Really don't like this version at all, makes everything hard to see. I like the primitive graphics of the HD version much better.
I believe that it's gonna be that way until you get used to it, then you will start recognizing them easily
I guarantee you Daut and Hera are still calling them "Castles".
So am i the only one who thought this is a german commentary since "de" is like short for german in german :D
Please tell me this game has an option to turn on the old graphics, they're far nicer
Totally agree
We still havent got in game chat in DE 😂🤣
I used to read cilink when the writing was this clinks
This looks almost perfect, just a few things they need to add like chat
hoping to see first Daut castle in DE.
DauT is BACK to be Nr.1 baby!
He sounds like cartman when he says KreeeePOST haha
t90 if the kreposts were even smaller they would be even more broken than they appeared to be in this game as you could fit them in smaller spaces.
Daut was so greedy trying to boom, Hera gave him what he deserved lol
How Daut managed to come back was amazing though
had a good laugh at pronouncing "крепость" xD
14:36 Bird Glitch (look: top right corner) bird runs into map edge :P
performance is great in this game for me, as long as i don't use the ultra HD assets, which are useless anyway (i don't zoom in EVER, always max zoom out). the only thing that bums me out is that it's still single-threaded.
DAUT the legend still around wow
Hi great video!
Being a Magyar myself, it's pronounced "M-uh-gyarr." The "uh" is pronounced as in "huh?"
And Huszar is pronounced "Hoosar."
No big deal!
"Thing of glass". What, you mean like a window? LOL T90
So much easier to read the text from players units and buildings
How do you beat a civ that can boom early and gets rams to shut down a tower rush
Don't forget the buffed walls, lol.
Finally normal sized trees!
OK, i've noticed one thing: i am always confused by the res bars in top screen, because you never really know to whom they belong. is there a way to underline them with player color or something?
No matter how you pronounce Krepost, it doesn't count if you don't roll the R like a proper Bulgar
cumans... now i can make my feudal only wars free for all since towers wouldnt be that much overpowered!
The second TC is Game Over.
I castles and TCs are protected from deletion, I assume wonders and the king in Regicide are as well.
Such a shame :< hera could've gone for konniks to defend his kreposts and even move some of his economy into daut's base
Does the spec UI really not show player names anywhere?
It shows it in both places it shows score. However, both of those are contextual so it may be that neither is on screen at any time.
those details in DE, definitely too much for my eyes
BIRD GLITCH HYPE
4:42 Gold lol
13:00 It would be even better if they prioritize bringing the ressource before changing one, alas you double click, or if there is a feature where you allow or not this behavior automatically
Am I the only one who is worried that both the second feudal TC and the Krepost are either going to be massively overpowered or completely useless, because such metabreaking additions are increadibly hard to balance.
Philipp Meier I think that to make the game fun they need to take these risks. As long as they’re dedicated to patching and analyzing Civ results (which I seem to recall them confirming the plan is to balance as they go), then it will even out.
@@highwata5346 There are just things that are almost impossible to balance. For example the Feitoria, it's just something where there is no middle ground. It can either be completely broken or utterly useless. And I kind of feel that they did too much with their new civs, to make them stand out. They're just odd compared to the older civs, while every expansion did bring some new mechanics to the game, they never overdid it. Unless they plan to not just rebalance but completely rework the older civs, I worry greatly that the new ones will just stand out as the weird new ones. And that might be exciting in the short term, but in the long run it could be damaging the game.
@@zuiop9993 That's simply factually incorrect, every new expansion has changed the meta. Like for example meso civs, which play completely differently from all previous civs, and don't get cavalry but a really strong anti-archer fast infantry unit.
@@MawksProductions With no word did I say that there were no meta changes in previous expansions. I made the subjective statement, that I think that these mechanics might deviate from the meta too much. Saying that this is factually incorrect is just being intellectually dishonest. But since I'm usually a concialliatory person I will just assume that you didn't read correctly.