Ultima RS: The BEST DIY Track Car?
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Ultima Sports released their RS halo car in June of 2019, as a complement to the Ultima Evolution kit. The RS can outperform nearly every road car with its 1200 horsepower LT5 engine, manual Porsche transaxle, and lightweight custom chassis. Ultima says it's the fastest, most versatile and aerodynamic model they've ever made, and can beat out even million-dollar supercars on the track. Does this make the Ultima RS the BEST kit car, or will the mysterious price tag hold it back from being a true affordable exotic?
This video is for entertainment and informational purposes only, and not intended as car-buying advice.
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I'm please to say that I am the the proud owner of that first GTR produced in 98/99 featured in this video footage from 2:31 to 2:46! And whilst my GTR does not include any of the creature comforts on the EVO or the RS models, it can still achieve 0-60mph in under 3s! This is a good overview of Ultima, though its a shame they didn't cover the McLaren F1 era and to be brutally honest, all of the Ultima models have 'had' to evolve with the times in an effort to ensure that Ultima Sports Ltd retain their position and credibility within the 'very' best of the kit car industry and of course to meet the latest ever moving automotive legislation world wide. Long may they continue.
I did not know that Trevor
I'll give you $50 for it.
Do they come with the engines? I was thinking of ordering a kit but im stuck between the ultima RS or the factory five gen 3 type 65 coupe-R but i have no idea which one would be easier to source parts like the engine trans and other little parts i may need for the build.
@@shanks0307 You can choose your own engine and transmission options either from Ultima or source them yourself. Ultima can supply the car in kit form to your own specifications (everything you need for the build including engine and transmission) or can build one for you at additional cost of course. The easiest option is to use the factory options for everything, then you won't need to source anything, other than consumables for the build. However, there is now a wait list for both kits and built cars.
I emailed ultima, and they sent me a pricing sheet for the required parts as well as upgrades. If you get all the carbon fiber and digital displays and stuff, the LT kit ran about $120k and the LS kit ran about $100k. Also, you don’t have to source the stuff yourself. They include every single thing you would need except for electronic power steering.
That pricing is for the 800 hp version not the 1200 hp your looking from 200 k plus
@@deanmcfaul2766 yeah, you’re correct. The quote they sent me didn’t list a 1200 hp version-it just went to 800. I did see on their brochure that they supposedly have a 1200 though.
@@deanmcfaul2766 800bhp LT5 tuned to 1,200 is £120k
Think you’re better off buying the ls version then sending it to a builder to handle more boost
@@jasonhill2896 😂😂 no it’s not. It’s like 30k
I have an Ultima RS powered by an LS7 coupled to an Albins ST6-M, must say on the road it will keep others looking. On the track most are looking at the tail lights. Loads fun to drive and build.
That's awesome, I'm hoping to place an order in February. Is the Albins a standard or paddle shift transmission? Where are you located?
@@TheAeroegg The Albins is a sequential paddle shift but can be stick shifted manually thru cables. Mine is controlled thru Motec electronics throughout
@@bobscocca3952 Your Ultima sounds impressive, the quickest shifting configuration I've heard of to date! Did you have to modify the chassis to accommodate the Albins? I'll bet you have a lot more enhancements, I'd love to see a RUclips video tour of your Ultima.
@@bobscocca3952 I contacted MME Motorsports and they are no longer making H pattern actuators "due to different company priorities."
@@TheAeroegg with the Albins ST6-m Sequential it is only up and down no H pattern. I control all shifting thru Motec Electronics( Throttle blip)
WOW!, it’s taken me 60 years to develop this interest in exotic cars and this kid has his own channel!👍👍👍
I remember seeing the Yellow Ultima on the cover of a kit car mag in the 90's. I think it was nearly a 100 grand back then without the drivetrain. I am so glad to see this company is still up and running and that you've spotlighted it here. I just subscribed. Keep up the good work, young sir.
Wrong, back then it was about $100K with drivetrain. Ultima stockpiled a bunch of porsche transaxles and would sell them with the kit for a song.
I like the offset mirror because of the functionality. It tells me this is a genuine race car, not just a show stopper. If I could afford one of these, I would probably want cameras instead of mirrors though.
The asymmetry of the wing mirrors shows that they value function over form, which in my opinion for a vehicle of this type is the right option.
If however I had $100,000 to spend on one, I’d get rid of the mirrors completely and have cameras instead.
I believe on some (if not most) tracks require at least a driver-side mirror, reguardless if you have cameras or not. At least that is the case at some of the tracks I go to.
An Evo kit will set you back $70-74k depending on exchange rate and options. Figure about 30% more for the RS if you want all new new aero bits. When completed my Evo was ~150k, and I'd expect a similarly spec'd RS to be closer to 190k. There's a bit more in the history but you did a good job covering it.
@Mr.BigBoss7 I love the Porsche GT3 and RS and I've run against both on the track with the Ultima. My Evo had 695hp and weighed 2350lbs with half a tank of fuel. When coming on to the front straight of a given track with a GT3 in front of me, I could pass them like they had thrown out a parachute, and they were similarly out matched in the braking zones and corners. Most cars I could pass like this, but there were a few exceptions; a Senna, GT2RS, and a tuned 720 which would all make me fight for it. I would say the GT3 was a much more comfortable tourer, mostly for cabin noise, but the GT3RS rides much harder than the Ultima did. However, I would take either Porsche any day I had to sit in traffic, the pdk is an amazing gearbox.
DriveDriverDriven thanks so much for your tale....very precious for who like me want to choose from regular supecars and the ultima...
May i ask you one thing?
The G-force in the majority of corners of the ultima i suppose that is better than a Porsche 991 gt3 cup...right?
luigi costa On the same tire there is no contest between the gt3 cup and the Ultima, it’s not a very fair comparison. The Ultima is closer to a Daytona/Le Mans prototype in terms of power/weight and handling.
DriveDriverDriven wow! Amazing! So i guess that in terms of lateral G-force the ultima is better than even a gt3 rsr...am i right? I ask you these things because i have understood that the ultima is much more a track car than a road legal car....even if you can use it on public roads....this is the opinion i have understood from many comments here of this video! So yes the 911 gt3 cup or rsr are 2 different classes of this car....but speaking of track cars i would know the difference in cornering....so i guess the ultima is better in long corners and not in a tight curve...
Anyway thanks sooo much for your precious answers...too precious....not so many people have an ultima!
DriveDriverDriven ah I forgot...the final price of your ultima evo was 150k $ right? Including assembly and painting or not? If you wanted to have the 1200 hp kit or more power buying directly from factory....how much more?
Young man, your presentation, voice, knowledge, delivery, editing........all spot-on. Wow. Fantastic work. I hit the sub button. Oh and cool kit car too.
Dito
I agree! Very well produced!!!
You can get exact pricing by emailing Ultima. An RS will cost around 100k£
Great car for the money
Yea man, that's a lot of car for the money
@Fbi OpenUp look around 7:40
Fbi OpenUp no
Proud to see a lot of my photos in such a nice well rounded video, well done!
After your video on the K1 Attack this inevitably popped up on my recommendations, I can't believe it exists! Great stuff
Thanks!
The Ultima RS & Evolution r my all time Favourite Super Car .
Saw my 1st one in the Flesh in Queensland Australia 🇦🇺 in 2002 .
Awesome 👌
I believe a fully loaded kit is about 130-150k depending on carbon bits and so forth on your spec. But at that price, it is a steal!
Rotisserie ... in British pound or USD? I bet You’d spend around us$ 175,000 in 2021 for a full build top of the line. A good deal as it would blow away anything on the track. This far is interesting.... would love to build one!
@@seanmurphy4465 Yep that's pretty much right on the dot. $165-175k USD including all fees for a fully loaded maxed out kit with the nicest aftermarket wheels and seats.
What I'm wondering is how much is just the frame, body and interior, I have some engines and drive train components laying around that could use a project to put them in...
your work is eye opening , i've never heard before about kit cars and this segment in car industry
thanx
And this is likely the next car to add to the stable to use on road and track if I can get someone to help me build it!!! Loved the GTR, but this new model is a step up!!! 🏎💨
Thanks for your effort.
I love when young guys have passion for real,pure cars and dont get blinded from screens and other things, that are on trend in pur days.👍💪
Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, BMW Mercedes, and Audi all have history: but has any of them ever been banned from racing because they're where too fast?
Can't get much more of a storied history than that.
I've loved these forever, an I think the new RS is the one I'd like the most, however, I like the previous gen's headlights, but I love the new tails.
As a future retiring guy ,I "m seriously thinking about taking the jump and build myself this beauty ,but for sure it will have real windows , a super efficient fire wall ,noise and heat reduction material ,all comfort goodies ,and full engine bay heat control as I will daily this dream car and take it on long road trips.
I saw a GTR at a local car show,never seen anything so amazing that wasn't an actual race car,as it left the car show it was involved in a smash with another vehicle,absolutely nothing left of the body,just fragments of GRP everywhere.
There's a channel on RUclips where the guy talks about the cost to build the RS and it ran him about $165k in 2020. So you'd say a minimum of $200k in 2024 for a high quality, no compromise build
Never understood why the Ultima wasn't more popular and well known back in the. It's like it didn't have enough buzz to on mainstream media. It was always a below the radar and if you knew you knew kind of car.
Because the likes of McLaren and Lamborghini have marketing teams that appeal to young teenage boys. The Ultima is unfortunately, a niche car. But for those in the know, it makes a proper bloke blush.
Gale Banks has a Turbo Max diesel motor that can mate up to an Allison Transaxle that can handle over 1000 hours w/ over 1000 ft lbs of torrent. I would love to see this set up fly!
Love those Ultima, the only kit car with the superlite than worth it, they both look good and perform very well on the track
Very well narrated and produced
Wonder why your channel does not have more subscribers, you are a great presenter. Keep it up.
I remember around 2013/2014-ish when Mercury Marine's Racing division showed off a 9.0 L Twin Turbo QC4v 1650HP engine at SEMA (I think it was SEMA). They basically took one of their offshore powerboat race engines and popped it into an Ultima. I am surprised that you didnt mention it.
The price of an M3 is a base, base, base strippy one for $70k. We all know that the M3 you actually want , and take home is around $95k which means realistically I personally expect this car to come in at $130k-ish with a engine and trans, and that might be a bit low.
IF you can get this car completed and dialed-in with at least 500 HP for the price of a 911 (under $120k total), it's a score! Yes you can get a C8, but at about 1500 lbs lighter, this would be the deal for me.
Aayyyy what informative video... thank you for making this !!
I helped do the bodywork on the first ultima sports(the yellow one).as a 16 yr old bodywork apprentice in 1995.the fibreglass moulding was terrible and I remember having to help cut the panel gaps in with an angle grinder.
I love the look of these things! I am starting a build later this year of a single centre seat rear engined death kart from a locost frame. I plan to build a body in very similar looks to one of these. I can't wait.
I think this kit with a k20a2 and turbo would be the ultimate setup ;) Say 7 to 800 HP RWD
Nice summary. The kit does vary wildly in price based on spec' and geographic location. Mine cost a few extra $ over $100k....
Brilliant presentation. Probably the best i have seen on youtube.
It's growing on me.
Might want to get that checked out
The Ultima always reminds me of the Laser 917
Makes sense, they're both styled after racecars from a similar era
The RS with the new LT6 engine from the c8 is actually my dream car
RS is a beauty
You should review the DDR Grullón GT8!! Finished with space frame around 2000 lbs or 820 kilos using a Corvette donor. Chassis and body under 20k. There was one at a Florida cars and coffee but I don't see many at all. It's my first choice for the price considering it's in a class with the GTM, SLC Ultralight, Ultima GTR. At half the price it would be worth even some headaches but I don't know if theres any.
Without Doubt the Best Car that Money 💰 🤑 💸 $$$ can purchase
Yes please!!! I would get one with a mere 500 hp more than enough for the road for me.
Yep, I remember the GTR. Keen to put a four rotor in one.
I absolutely love the kit car reviews! Just wanted to ask if you are planning to do one on the superlite slc. Awesome videos though! I definitely hope this channel grows
Thanks, I'm really glad you enjoy the videos! I have a long list of cars to cover, but I'll try to do the SLC at some point✌
@@QuickshiftCars yes please do a SLC .
The listed performance is for the LT5 crate engine (800 HP), not the tuned 1200 hp, but I’m not sure, they haven’t explicitly stated lt5 1200hp, just LT5
Beautiful car
I’m currently watching a youtuber building and Ultima evo using a Lambo V10 engine and it already near its end of build.
Interesting. It will be interesting as some of the manufacturing/engineering capabilities become further distributed and crowdsourced in a sense the pricing will likely become more democratized.
Like massdrop for car parts, that'd be interesting.
Quickshift, you forgot to mention that McClaren Cars obtained 2 Ultima Mk3's from Lee Noble to use as test vehicles when designing their iconic F1. There is a YT about it out there.
I’d have this over any Lambo, Ferrari or Porsche any day of the week.
Drive one in summer day traffic and I guarantee you’ll change your mind
You are really talented motorsport journalist 👍
A guy in Florida just pulled the cost of his kit with options came to 167,000.
That makes any thing from Factory Five , the DIY for the average guy.
Thats a sign of a fast car "um sir you cannot drive that thing here....its too fast"
"but it's a f*cking race track ?"
Mannn this is a beautiful kit car from it started...I’m not done watching the video..But the version with the Chevy with a Porsche trans axle...that had to be an interesting car..nice vid as usual...
Superlite SLC - is what I ended up with when I had set out to purchase the awesome Ultima.
What do you mean?
@@osamabinladen824 a very similar Le Mans style kit car.
Looking sick for a kit car
Surprisingly expensive for a DIY kit car. But they do look gorgeous
Love the videos man. I wanted to ask if you'd seen or considered covering the Superlite SLC?
A lot of people have been requesting it lately, so I just might!
@@QuickshiftCars Which is better? Ultima or SLC?
Miss my 2012 Ultima GTR....savage weapon !!!!
Wow best looking diy car! Thing is beautiful from fit and finish to performance.
superb car, id love one.
Thanks for making it clear with a red arrow in the thumbnail. I thought you were talking about the car behind this one 😁
I'd love to see a comparison between the Ultima RS, Aston Martin Valkyrie and the Gordon Murray T.50 on the road and track. All British and all focused on extreme driving pleasure.
the T.50 is more like a super fast GT than track record breaking hypercar, i don't think it will compete with those two.
@@vazione5410 Remember it's designed by Gordon Murray, it'll naturally be excellent around a track.
I want to see how it compares with the other two, which are basically road legal racing cars.
@@grindsman22 i understand that, what i'm saying is that: no way the t.50 could beat the Valkyrie in anything related to tracking/racing, but as a street car i bet it would blow the Valkyrie out of the water. both are epic cars that will be remembered in history for sure.
@@vazione5410 The two road legal racing cars have a massive power advantage so maybe they could all be timed around a twisty track that focuses on handling to give the T.50 a chance of keeping up.
I'd really like to see how the Ultima RS would compete with the Aston around a track, how much more performance can an F1 designer provide to a similarly powered car.
@@grindsman22 i think around a hypothetical track it would be something like: #1 Valkyrie 1:20 #2 Ultima Rs 1:22.5 #3 T.50 1:25.
crazy time we live in to see these 3 being made.
Great video! I'm looking forward to building one of these someday.
Realistically, in 2022, to complete this in the USA and go from the deposit to fully driving Ultima RS, $140,000 is more realistic (including a decent crate engine for $30k), with only import taxes included. A fully optioned Ultima RS with carbon, motech, etc. can easily top.$230,000.
It's still cheaper than the flagship european exotics, but there's no way in hell you're getting this driving at $75,000 USD.
Also, there's no way it's 2,030 lbs finished. Finished, with all systems installed and fluids, it's much closer to 2,600 lbs, which is still very light for a car with this much power, but it's exceedingly difficult to get this car driving at less than 2,300 lbs.
It's a great car, but underselling the price and underestimating the weight shouldn't be done.
Gramps is like.. "WTF is that thing?!?" 7:30
Your idea of what constitutes "semi affordable" (a semi), and mine, are somewhat divergent I have to say. That said, it's a great looking car.
With some customization it will cost $176 k plus. Trust me. I know a home build guy who built one.
well thats the point of them really. you can buy a "basic " model with LT1 engine around the 450 bhp mark tht will be low 100k or go balls out with lt5 1000bhp, every option ticked, seqential gearbox, component upgrades, carbon fiber all over etc and youll find yourself clearing 160 pretty quickly. epic cars.
I guess I can forgive you for not mentioning that an Ultima chassis was used to test the drivetrain for the McLaren F1 back in the early '90s, given that you weren't even born then. Also, for a car-related channel, you are the first person I have ever heard refer to a race meeting as a "tournament"...
You should put on a bumper sticker that says; MAY CONTAIN NUTS
All this kit kar kontent is a gift
Might just be my next HotRod
I'd like to put in a +1300hp twin-turbo voodoo engine in one of these
Nice! I’m going to go for the 3000 HP 5x Turbo. 🚗🚗🚗 It’s not unveiled yet but I’ve got a $500 deposit ready. For some reason ultima has not replied to my email yet....
man oh man oh man that is a beautiful beautiful car xxx
I would put my Honda H22 turbo tuned to 450hp. Light, reliable, rev limit 8000+ rpm
Price to build is $175k-$200k
Awesome.
Thanks for the video.
The price for the complete kit plus a few upgrades $167,000... 2022 direct from the latest customer
If you want to do it properly(lift system, pre fit, quality dash, alcon brakes, upgraded fuel pump, pedal box, all carbon options) and why wouldn't you, a 1000bhp engine or thereabouts more like £200,000. Worth every penny, you would have to spend a £1,000,000 to get near it!
Make a video comparing DDR Motorsport vs Ultima.
The also do a turn key version where they build it for you but it's about 250 grand. Just for the exterior carbon package it's 21 grand just for the parts witch includes the wing
But if you get a turn key version its a 2 year waiting list be for they even start building it
You are a great presenter. Enjoy how you speak.
Mirrors like a C8 Corvette!
Look at the Ultima RS, count to three, and try not to adjust your pants. Ready? One. Two. Yep we called it. This car's sole purpose is to please the eye, thrill the heart and leave you sticky with delight.
hard to believe they provide no option for a sequential ...
Top of the line RS you looking at 180K+
That Porsche transmission must be eye watering in price. They aren’t exactly known for cheap parts like that.
Now that's the CAR! BAM!
Would make a sick him climb car..could see it tearing up pikes peak!!!
250mph plus for 100k !!?? Bruh yes ofc !!
Am i the only person that hates it being called a kit car? I think a kit car is where bits are glued onto an existing car to make it look like another car (pontiac fiero to ferrari)
so basically if i build the good one i can badge it "Powered by Porschevrolet"?
Gorgeous !
This is a real drivers car for the main fact it's only available with the manual gearbox pure connectivity to the road and machine
I had to laugh when I saw a motorcycle as the backdrop for a video on a sports car. :-)
Imagine a rotary motor being used in this application.
The Ultimate car!
I like the girls R3 in the back ground ....is that your Mrs bike :P
Sorry but the superlite SLC is number 1 and it's made in america! Used in cars on the fast and furious and the SLC looks better and much stronger frame
Can anyone compare the SLC vs the Ultima RS?
It appears the Ultima RS is about 500 lbs lighter then the slc with the same exact drive train. Both are sick and look great but I’m a huge fan on ultra light things, weight savings is power.