I often end up filling other trucks. I have owned the 440P (larger than the 400p in this video) for 5 years and I've been happy with it. I recently ordered the Morrflate set up minus the pump (which is a beast). Once the hoses are out, they're out It's easy enough to swing to a second and third vehicle. I will stick with my Staun deflators though, they don't take all that long. One thing nobody addresses is just how bad the valve chucks are on the bigger Viair pumps - I'll be glad to be rid of it. Now that the truck is paid off, I can afford some of these luxuries.
The Morrflate is awesome. I got the TENSIX with quad setup and love the quick connect chucks and I can set the gauge on my engine rail to easily see my pressure and I walk to see my car tire pressure. No bending over all the time to see it and it inflates FAST. If you store it right, it’s not like Christmas lights; it’s simple to connect and store with no tangles.
Ive had the viar 450p hardwired for years with good results. Ive been wanting to upgrade to a faster compressor but after debating for a while i decided to buy another 450p because im in the wilderness alone alot and got to thinking its better to have two setups with same parts interchangeable. Ive now got 2 hardwired for rapid deployment i get them both going at the same time, still slower but it cut my time to air 4 37s up to about 10-11 minutes and now i have two complete setups so less likely to get in a bind. I really wanted a faster compressor but have been impressed with the reliability of my viar.
Pro tip for the guy with the Morrflate: Connect one tire and turn on the compressor. Then continue to connect the next three. That would have saved you a minute. As for the "is it worth it". That depends on how successful in life you are. If your poor, no its not worth it. If you are not poor its probably worth it.
If someone defines being successful in life as having more money then it doesn't matter how much you spend on your tire inflator. You are still lost. That being said, it is a good product and it is worth it if it meets your application and chosen budget best.
@@timkohlen1920 I can afford either. Or both. I don't have a need to buy one at the moment but I might someday and I am on a comparison video binge. Blame it on Project Farm haha. I just disagreed with the premise because it was false. If I hurt your feelings I didn't mean to either.
@TRUTH is ABSOLUTE "is it worth it" in this video is a financial premise. Financial success is an aspect of personal and life success. Your nit picking. move on.
Loved the video. People are worried about 5 minutes 😊. Open the cooler and drink a beer, look around where you are at and soak in the nature around you. That’s why we all do this. Enjoy life. Great video, had me laughing and smiling watching it.
I have the viair 400c hard mounted in my Jeep to a 2 gallon tank. I pre fill the tank before stopping to save time. The viair is over 10 yrs old and been super reliable.
I got the morrflate 5.6 cuz I wanted to use this system on 4×4 jeep and the entire fleet of vehicles at the house (motorcycles, motorhome, cars and pickup trucks) the largest pump says "Don't use on one tire you'll brake the pump prematurely " I also am using the 4 tire kit with this pump. This aired up the jeep with 33's from 15psi to 32psi with the 4 way hose kit in 7.5 minutes. The pump didn't even get a chance to get hot to the touch. It also aired the rv, 2 tires at a time to 75psi without issue.
Most of the saved time was due to the pump output. The quad loses time in setup and takedown. The single lets you work ahead of the pump, removing the next valve cap while pumping the first tire, and then adding the valve cap while pumping the next. The biggest advantage is that in between you are getting other stuff done rather than running from tire to tire.
All things being equal it's literally the exact same. Both systems have to wait for the pump to push the needed volume air into 4 tires (90% of the time), you still have to go to each and every tire to attach the hose. Actually if anything you're going to each tire twice with the quad setup because you have to go back to turn it on and off.
If he took the first cap off and set that up then started the pump while taking the other caps off and hooking up the lines it would have saved him time and allow him to work ahead.
I think it would have taken even longer. The viair is a single piston so it wouldnt be able to produce enough air to run all 4 tires at once. Plus if he uses the moreflate air lines he has to add that cost to his setup to make it fair.
As I understand it it is much easier for the compressor to fill 4 at once than one at a time. I am getting the hose setup this week and will upgrade to Morrflate compressor as soon as I can.
There are other brands that use the same compressor as Morrflate some are $80 cheaper, and different color. Morrflate has a sister brand with a red version. I went with morrflate because I wanted the auto shut-off without having to install a mod myself lol. Napa maxi trac dual pump was one of the originals and cheapest. Tricky Motorsports Trickflate is the same as Morrflate and only $150 but doesn't have pressure auto-shutoff built in. (they sell it for $20 extra and you need to install yourself).
HA HA, the guy with flip flops sorta making fun of the guy with the superior equipment, and WANTS to race, then when they start the race he goes to adding more rules, and after he has a mudhole stomped in him and his 1/2 price compressor, he still wants to act like he has more money in his pocket. If i was the morrflate guy when he said that, then I'd have pulled out my wallet and showed him my money!!! Bet my $$ Mr. Morrflate had the fatter wallet. I would bet also, the little pump puts out hotter air, and after it cooled down a few minutes, he was below 30 lbs. on his first two tires.
The Morrflate was designed for speed and efficiency on a four tire inflation only! The Viair was designed for simplicity, reliability and flexibility! I’ll take the Viair based on the above mentioned criteria! I inflate individual car tires (MorrFlate is not really designed to inflate single tires without possibility of damaging the unit if it remains powered on for over 2 minutes), bike tires, inflatables, balls etc…
I have a Warn PowerPlant 9.5 winch/air compressor that has done me well for a few years, and I have used the portable air compressors in the past..... but if you really want to inflate your tires quickly without connecting to the battery, and dealing with all the air lines, get yourself a PowerTank w/10lb or 15lb bottle. It will fill +15psi on 33" in 24 sec, 35" in 25 sec, 37" in 30 sec, and 40" in 35 sec.. I have a 2nd bottle to use with air tools if needed. SmittyBuilt has a similar system that is cheaper, and Poly Performance has one that's cheaper than both......either one will do the job much quicker and easier than the portables.....not knocking the systems in the video just giving my view of what I went through airing up after wheeling and overlanding in the past. Love the channel, keep the videos coming! 🤙🏽
@@ericw8464 Understand.....some people (you) may live in areas where getting a bottle filled is not an easy thing and that using other means to air up tires is more convenient.....I kept my PowerPlant as a back up just in case I run out of compressed air (leak, use, etc.)....I commented on this to offer another alternative to compressors to air up tires....if that works for some people great, if it doesn't you still have the compressor fed systems to rely on....appreciate your input 👍🏽
The morrflate not only is quicker, the advantages are all 4 tires are exactly the same PSI as the lines are all pressured to the same PSI, and you only walk around and simply plug each tire in, then stand back and wait, no more clambering around on your knees at each tire, this alone is worth the price, especially if the ground is muddy, I built my own from of the shelf components for under $100, inflates and deflates all 4 very easily, used with a twin head compressor
I have a similar setup as Brad and out in Moab it took me about 5 min a tire to go from 20 to 38 psi with the stock KO2's. Where I would like that 4 way hose setup is deflating. I got the ones that screw out the valve stem but couldn't get it to work right so I had to do each tire by hand.
Setup and take down time is important. How much space something takes up both storage wise and setup wise when you are on the side of the road is very important, so if I have to choose I'm going with the viair. The morflate is just a nightmare of cords by comparison. It would take up more room in your vehicle also I would think. If you used it all the time you could get better at managing it and maybe it could be justifiable, but most people only need something for an emergency/one tire is having an issue type of situation. All things considered the viair is a pretty fast tire inflator.
Agree that time is important, but with that being said… Usually when getting off the trail and getting your vehicle prepped back for the road, there are more things to do other than just air up your tires, so with the four tire kit, you can be doing those other things while all four are being aired up without having to move between Each tire, so you accomplish more in the same or less amount of time.
@@RJB1017 The morflate system is faster, but is specialized in it’s use for off-roading. My understanding is that it is not designed to be used with one tire at a time. You have to be inflating 2 or 4 tires or the compressor could be damaged. The versatility is a huge selling point for tire inflation systems like the viair. They are better suited for one tire emergencies most people have where sometimes there isn’t much space on the side of the road to deal with them. Besides, unless you are using a pre-filled tank none of these systems inflate a tire so fast that you can’t be doing other things to get ready to head out in the meantime. Remember, in this example the morflate was only about 4:30 faster than the viair at filling 4 tires. It really comes down to if you are off-roading all the time, you don’t mind to spend a sizable amount of money, and you already have something to deal with emergencies then consider getting a system like the morflate (or a pre-filled air tank if tire inflation time is truly the most important thing). Otherwise, get something like the viair.
@@nosilverharbinger I air down probably around twice a month, maybe 3 during dune season so like 30ish times a year so the speed (even being 4:30) is worth something to me. But it just preference I guess. I got the whole package for $350otd so I’m happy with the price.
I have an ‘06 LJ so I don’t have a fancy in dash pressure gauge which changes things. When I use a single pump on one tire at a time I have to stop and check pressures often. Slows me down a lot.
To time the difference between speed of both machines airing up the tires the timer should start once the air on 1 vehicle is done putting them away shouldn't be apart of the time it's about how fast the air is not how fast they could be put away
Question for this race, do both trucks have the exact same tire size? That'll make a big difference if one is small than the other. Brad's tires look smaller than Dave's which would require Dave's tires to take more air, thus long air up time to 30 psi. Ah, typed this before Brad said you both have 35's. Dave's do look wider... Dave, wrap each side hose separately with the small straps. That stops the tangle together ;)
What you don't seem to understand is that it's not 5 minutes faster THIS time..... it's 5 minuies faster EVERY time. So after 6 uses, that's 30 minutes faster. I'm assuming this isn't the last time you're going to air up/down your tires. Consider that next time you try to decide if it's worth it. If you go offroading 12 times that's saving you an hour.
That’s hours and hours of your life that your going to gain. I have done the math and have valued one hour of my time is worth $1500 at the current moment. And I’m serious, so a faster setup is literally saving you thousands of dollars over the lifetime. You can buy crap but you cannot buy time. The crap you buy can save you time, that’s money in the bank. So you actually can buy time by buying better crap.
@@ericbartoszak5211- honestly, i don’t think most people place valuation on time (especially on their off days) in this manner! They prioritize it based on activity, whether it’s personal, family related, friend related, or business related! No one is going to say “Damn, i just spent 4 hours hanging out with my kid at a rate of $1500/hr and feel that i forsook $6000 of possible income!” Or “Bro, this is a nice BBQ but i can only spend 5 minutes because time-is-money!” The Economic Principle that you should base your time allotment decisions upon is termed: “Opportunity Cost”!
I feel bad for the morrflate guy, everyone was rooting against him, changing the rules as it went along, constantly badgering him, and he still kept a good attitude about and won. With friends like this, who the hell needs enemies.
Worth and time are a dependent on wealth and need, I have 2 of the viair 485C’s running to a 5 gallon tank in my Jeep that runs an air locker I also recently purchased the more flate 4 tire kit because after years and years of standing by a time inflating 1 at a time I wanted the ease of hooking up all 4 letting the pumps do their thing. I would not suggest this setup for everybody though as I worked hard to afford it not everybody has that option in life.
@@salcigar behind the back seat it’s all mounted on a removable board. I don’t really store anything back there besides the air compressors and tank along with a few tools.
@@a1racer441 thanks for the response. I've got dual Viair 444c's mounted under the hood of the JK and a 1.5 gallon tank behind the bumper, so yes a little envious of your 5 gallon tank.
@@salcigar yeah mine is a Cherokee on tons and 40’s so rear is basically large enough for anything. My brothers jk he mounted a 2.5 gallon where the large rear muffler goes. Jk’s are limited on space for sure.
I have apex RIV stems, Viair 440p under the hood and a 4 gallon pancake tank under the rear of my 23 Bronco. Plus a four tire air solution. I’m kicking rocks up on the jeep truck and blowing my train horns by the time the first tire is aired up
Mount that viair in the bed and run it off the 30amp aux switch so you never have to pop the hood or take it out/put it back. That’s what I’m about to do.
the bigger size of the gear pack (due to the additional air lines) is also a downside to me. In wranglers your cargo area is premium space you don't want to waste.
Instead of buying a viair 400 for $230 that only puts out 2.3 CFM, you can buy a smittybilt 2781 for about $180 that puts out 5.6CFM or the Desert Armor beast compressor for $230 , The summit racing compressor for $190 . Or the NAPA MAaxi track for $114 but is questionable in terms of reliability. All those last 3 put out 10.4 CFM which is comparable to the morrflate compressor. Same money as the viair 400p and will shave off a couple more minutes
Imagine you’re in shitty weather for those 4 minutes with hungry kids, or have bigger than a 35” tire. The MoRRFlate was just on sale for less than $200. Black Friday 2022.
4 minutes every time adds up, especially when you factor in that you don't have to kneel down at every tire multiple times after a long day on the trail. 4 tire inflation also balances tire pressure between all 4. You won't have one tire that's +/-.
As others have said, most of the speed probably came from the compressor. I'm not familiar with the model that David had. Was it MORRFlate? Regardless, the most important compressor numbers for inflating large tires are CFM and duty cycle. For a tankless system, you just can't beat the Smittybilt 2781 at 5.65 CRM for less than $200. It's also rated for a 100% duty cycle for 40 minutes at 45 PSI and 75° F.
Rather buy the Viair and put the $200+ towards my beer fund lol. Way too many hoses to deal with and could care less about saving 5 or 10 minutes. This aint a NASCAR event, it's offroading.
So one system is faster than the other - big deal, the person that finishes first still stands around waiting for the slowest person in the group anyway, so what's the point?
NOT really a good comparison. Hands down, the 4 wheel system is worth the money. MAYBE once did I see the single wheel guy actually check his dashboard for the tire pressure, the other guy checked it religiously.....and it also has a delay which added time.
Are you guys racing? Like who does it faster or are you guys comparing the machines? The single pump team are being sore losers you got a close the hood put it away turn off the car clean your room make sure your tires have armor all lol.😅 I’m sure if you guys set up and start them at the same time whoever inflates faster the four tire system will win, hands-down and it will be faster than a four minute difference. Also, the other guy is younger slimmer fitter than Chris, so he was faster sitting up his stuff. It’s not a fair competition lol. I’d go. with Chris style pump
I’m going Morrflate just bc it seems Viair makes someone a sore loser and over-competitive 😂 his grumpy got worse as the video went on!!! Morrflate - better for the happy camper! 🤙🏼
Hey! Random question.... My sister has a 2021 Cherokee Trail Hawk. When she airs down it constantly tells her that her PSI is low and flashes.. is there anyway of disabling it? It seems like a really really stupid thing. It's a trail hawk and airing down is common
Sorry Brad you got your ass kicked. In a real life situation you don't need to pack everything up and put all the caps on. You would throw the stuff in the ride and get the hell out of Dodge and then pack it up later. Or you could sit in a chair and have a nice cold drink and relax instead of dicking around with all 4 tires. In this competition despite all the rule change bs during the match Brad buddy you got beat. Cool video
And you also did not zip closed the air hose pocket and snap the final lid closed on your bag. 😂 I'm sure you don't normally put it away like that. 🤔 In fact, when you took it out of the back of your Jeep to begin with, the zipper was closed and the lid was snapped shut. 😲 So maybe 5+ faster. ☺️
viair can be rebuilt . i dont know if you can buy rebuild kits for morrflat. im going viair thanks. also it says its not goot to inflate a single tire on the double heads
Glasses was salty af.
100%
Glasses was salty, made new rules, lame.
I often end up filling other trucks. I have owned the 440P (larger than the 400p in this video) for 5 years and I've been happy with it. I recently ordered the Morrflate set up minus the pump (which is a beast). Once the hoses are out, they're out It's easy enough to swing to a second and third vehicle. I will stick with my Staun deflators though, they don't take all that long. One thing nobody addresses is just how bad the valve chucks are on the bigger Viair pumps - I'll be glad to be rid of it. Now that the truck is paid off, I can afford some of these luxuries.
I just use the crap hose with my 400p. 1 min 45 seconds per tire, total operation in under 10 min.
He keeps asking rhetorically, "was it worth it" he knows deep down it definitely is. Morrflate wouldn't make such product if it wasn't.
You know next trail day he showed up with one
the morrflate smoked him, plus they kept changing the rules, pack up, valve caps on etc etc. so I'm team morrflate
The Morrflate is awesome. I got the TENSIX with quad setup and love the quick connect chucks and I can set the gauge on my engine rail to easily see my pressure and I walk to see my car tire pressure. No bending over all the time to see it and it inflates FAST. If you store it right, it’s not like Christmas lights; it’s simple to connect and store with no tangles.
Same.
Ive had the viar 450p hardwired for years with good results. Ive been wanting to upgrade to a faster compressor but after debating for a while i decided to buy another 450p because im in the wilderness alone alot and got to thinking its better to have two setups with same parts interchangeable. Ive now got 2 hardwired for rapid deployment i get them both going at the same time, still slower but it cut my time to air 4 37s up to about 10-11 minutes and now i have two complete setups so less likely to get in a bind. I really wanted a faster compressor but have been impressed with the reliability of my viar.
Pro tip for the guy with the Morrflate: Connect one tire and turn on the compressor. Then continue to connect the next three. That would have saved you a minute.
As for the "is it worth it". That depends on how successful in life you are. If your poor, no its not worth it. If you are not poor its probably worth it.
If someone defines being successful in life as having more money then it doesn't matter how much you spend on your tire inflator. You are still lost. That being said, it is a good product and it is worth it if it meets your application and chosen budget best.
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@TRUTH is ABSOLUTE Oh here we go, someone who probably can't afford it got their feeling hurt and now they need to try to make themselves feel better.
@@timkohlen1920 I can afford either. Or both. I don't have a need to buy one at the moment but I might someday and I am on a comparison video binge. Blame it on Project Farm haha. I just disagreed with the premise because it was false. If I hurt your feelings I didn't mean to either.
@TRUTH is ABSOLUTE "is it worth it" in this video is a financial premise. Financial success is an aspect of personal and life success. Your nit picking. move on.
I've had my vlair 400p hard mounted on my 3rd gen 4runner for about 6 years now and I use it probably 12 times a year and it's always been awesome !
Loved the video. People are worried about 5 minutes 😊. Open the cooler and drink a beer, look around where you are at and soak in the nature around you. That’s why we all do this. Enjoy life. Great video, had me laughing and smiling watching it.
I have the viair 400c hard mounted in my Jeep to a 2 gallon tank. I pre fill the tank before stopping to save time. The viair is over 10 yrs old and been super reliable.
I got the morrflate 5.6 cuz I wanted to use this system on 4×4 jeep and the entire fleet of vehicles at the house (motorcycles, motorhome, cars and pickup trucks) the largest pump says "Don't use on one tire you'll brake the pump prematurely "
I also am using the 4 tire kit with this pump.
This aired up the jeep with 33's from 15psi to 32psi with the 4 way hose kit in 7.5 minutes.
The pump didn't even get a chance to get hot to the touch.
It also aired the rv, 2 tires at a time to 75psi without issue.
Funny, I have the ViAir 400P and the Moorflate Quad inflator! It's great!
Just got the MORRFLATE 10six and quad inflate kit. Quality looks top notch! Will let test these puppies out first weekend of August. Can't wait!
Love how he just kept adding rules everytime he knew he was loosing
Most of the saved time was due to the pump output. The quad loses time in setup and takedown. The single lets you work ahead of the pump, removing the next valve cap while pumping the first tire, and then adding the valve cap while pumping the next. The biggest advantage is that in between you are getting other stuff done rather than running from tire to tire.
Technically he can hook up one hose and turn it on while he connects everything
All things being equal it's literally the exact same. Both systems have to wait for the pump to push the needed volume air into 4 tires (90% of the time), you still have to go to each and every tire to attach the hose. Actually if anything you're going to each tire twice with the quad setup because you have to go back to turn it on and off.
If he took the first cap off and set that up then started the pump while taking the other caps off and hooking up the lines it would have saved him time and allow him to work ahead.
One more test, use the morrflate hose kit with the Viair 400P. See which compressor is faster.
I think it would have taken even longer. The viair is a single piston so it wouldnt be able to produce enough air to run all 4 tires at once. Plus if he uses the moreflate air lines he has to add that cost to his setup to make it fair.
Should have connected one tire and started it if those are all obviously closed flow chucks. Once all are connected they will equalize anyway!
As I understand it it is much easier for the compressor to fill 4 at once than one at a time. I am getting the hose setup this week and will upgrade to Morrflate compressor as soon as I can.
There are other brands that use the same compressor as Morrflate some are $80 cheaper, and different color.
Morrflate has a sister brand with a red version.
I went with morrflate because I wanted the auto shut-off without having to install a mod myself lol.
Napa maxi trac dual pump was one of the originals and cheapest.
Tricky Motorsports Trickflate is the same as Morrflate and only $150 but doesn't have pressure auto-shutoff built in. (they sell it for $20 extra and you need to install yourself).
I chose the Morrflate. Great product and outstanding customer service.
Green monster for the win!😁
HA HA, the guy with flip flops sorta making fun of the guy with the superior equipment, and WANTS to race, then when they start the race he goes to adding more rules, and after he has a mudhole stomped in him and his 1/2 price compressor, he still wants to act like he has more money in his pocket. If i was the morrflate guy when he said that, then I'd have pulled out my wallet and showed him my money!!! Bet my $$ Mr. Morrflate had the fatter wallet. I would bet also, the little pump puts out hotter air, and after it cooled down a few minutes, he was below 30 lbs. on his first two tires.
The Morrflate was designed for speed and efficiency on a four tire inflation only!
The Viair was designed for simplicity, reliability and flexibility!
I’ll take the Viair based on the above mentioned criteria! I inflate individual car tires (MorrFlate is not really designed to inflate single tires without possibility of damaging the unit if it remains powered on for over 2 minutes), bike tires, inflatables, balls etc…
Lets say 5 minutes faster every time you use it. 20 fill ups and you are at 100 minutes of time saved. That will help a lot of friends without pumps.
All in good fun! Love the Kresege crew!!
It looks like the morflate truck had larger volume of air to pump to make that 30psi because they didn’t say tire sizes were same to compare.
I have a Warn PowerPlant 9.5 winch/air compressor that has done me well for a few years, and I have used the portable air compressors in the past..... but if you really want to inflate your tires quickly without connecting to the battery, and dealing with all the air lines, get yourself a PowerTank w/10lb or 15lb bottle. It will fill +15psi on 33" in 24 sec, 35" in 25 sec, 37" in 30 sec, and 40" in 35 sec.. I have a 2nd bottle to use with air tools if needed. SmittyBuilt has a similar system that is cheaper, and Poly Performance has one that's cheaper than both......either one will do the job much quicker and easier than the portables.....not knocking the systems in the video just giving my view of what I went through airing up after wheeling and overlanding in the past. Love the channel, keep the videos coming! 🤙🏽
Trips to get CO2 refilled is a major inconvenience for me on top of trying to get the family ready for a trip.
@@ericw8464 Understand.....some people (you) may live in areas where getting a bottle filled is not an easy thing and that using other means to air up tires is more convenient.....I kept my PowerPlant as a back up just in case I run out of compressed air (leak, use, etc.)....I commented on this to offer another alternative to compressors to air up tires....if that works for some people great, if it doesn't you still have the compressor fed systems to rely on....appreciate your input 👍🏽
The morrflate not only is quicker, the advantages are all 4 tires are exactly the same PSI as the lines are all pressured to the same PSI, and you only walk around and simply plug each tire in, then stand back and wait, no more clambering around on your knees at each tire, this alone is worth the price, especially if the ground is muddy, I built my own from of the shelf components for under $100, inflates and deflates all 4 very easily, used with a twin head compressor
The loser was so butt hurt. Team Morrflate!!
Morrflate is clearly the better product for me. Placed a big fat order and can't wait!!
Could just be me but the rig on the right had much larger tires by volume.
😂 I saw the same thing! What are the tire sizes on these rigs? Makes a but of a difference!
I have a similar setup as Brad and out in Moab it took me about 5 min a tire to go from 20 to 38 psi with the stock KO2's. Where I would like that 4 way hose setup is deflating. I got the ones that screw out the valve stem but couldn't get it to work right so I had to do each tire by hand.
The four tire hose system can be used on the viair as well. A 440p or 450p would be the way to go.
Setup and take down time is important. How much space something takes up both storage wise and setup wise when you are on the side of the road is very important, so if I have to choose I'm going with the viair. The morflate is just a nightmare of cords by comparison. It would take up more room in your vehicle also I would think. If you used it all the time you could get better at managing it and maybe it could be justifiable, but most people only need something for an emergency/one tire is having an issue type of situation.
All things considered the viair is a pretty fast tire inflator.
Agree that time is important, but with that being said…
Usually when getting off the trail and getting your vehicle prepped back for the road, there are more things to do other than just air up your tires, so with the four tire kit, you can be doing those other things while all four are being aired up without having to move between Each tire, so you accomplish more in the same or less amount of time.
@@RJB1017 The morflate system is faster, but is specialized in it’s use for off-roading. My understanding is that it is not designed to be used with one tire at a time. You have to be inflating 2 or 4 tires or the compressor could be damaged.
The versatility is a huge selling point for tire inflation systems like the viair. They are better suited for one tire emergencies most people have where sometimes there isn’t much space on the side of the road to deal with them. Besides, unless you are using a pre-filled tank none of these systems inflate a tire so fast that you can’t be doing other things to get ready to head out in the meantime. Remember, in this example the morflate was only about 4:30 faster than the viair at filling 4 tires.
It really comes down to if you are off-roading all the time, you don’t mind to spend a sizable amount of money, and you already have something to deal with emergencies then consider getting a system like the morflate (or a pre-filled air tank if tire inflation time is truly the most important thing). Otherwise, get something like the viair.
@@nosilverharbinger I air down probably around twice a month, maybe 3 during dune season so like 30ish times a year so the speed (even being 4:30) is worth something to me. But it just preference I guess. I got the whole package for $350otd so I’m happy with the price.
I have an ‘06 LJ so I don’t have a fancy in dash pressure gauge which changes things. When I use a single pump on one tire at a time I have to stop and check pressures often. Slows me down a lot.
The TPMS/instrument gauge isn't as accurate as a regular pressure gauge anyway. TPMS sensors will correct itself after the wheels start moving.
Would of saved more then 5 minutes if the timer was done only for inflation and not setup or put away time
That was cool guys👍🏽 and helpful!
I'm on team Power Tank. Nice slippers though 👌
To time the difference between speed of both machines airing up the tires the timer should start once the air on 1 vehicle is done putting them away shouldn't be apart of the time it's about how fast the air is not how fast they could be put away
Question for this race, do both trucks have the exact same tire size? That'll make a big difference if one is small than the other. Brad's tires look smaller than Dave's which would require Dave's tires to take more air, thus long air up time to 30 psi.
Ah, typed this before Brad said you both have 35's. Dave's do look wider...
Dave, wrap each side hose separately with the small straps. That stops the tangle together ;)
What you don't seem to understand is that it's not 5 minutes faster THIS time..... it's 5 minuies faster EVERY time. So after 6 uses, that's 30 minutes faster. I'm assuming this isn't the last time you're going to air up/down your tires. Consider that next time you try to decide if it's worth it. If you go offroading 12 times that's saving you an hour.
That’s hours and hours of your life that your going to gain. I have done the math and have valued one hour of my time is worth $1500 at the current moment. And I’m serious, so a faster setup is literally saving you thousands of dollars over the lifetime. You can buy crap but you cannot buy time. The crap you buy can save you time, that’s money in the bank. So you actually can buy time by buying better crap.
@@ericbartoszak5211- honestly, i don’t think most people place valuation on time (especially on their off days) in this manner! They prioritize it based on activity, whether it’s personal, family related, friend related, or business related! No one is going to say “Damn, i just spent 4 hours hanging out with my kid at a rate of $1500/hr and feel that i forsook $6000 of possible income!” Or “Bro, this is a nice BBQ but i can only spend 5 minutes because time-is-money!” The Economic Principle that you should base your time allotment decisions upon is termed: “Opportunity Cost”!
How much faster is it airing down though?
Viair sucks ass. People’s Amazon $80 one used to beat mine. I bought the Napa one with 2 cylinders and smoke everyone now
Plot twist: Morrflate has a new model coming next week.
I feel bad for the morrflate guy, everyone was rooting against him, changing the rules as it went along, constantly badgering him, and he still kept a good attitude about and won. With friends like this, who the hell needs enemies.
It’s all about convenience and worth paying for. He beat you sipping on a beer for two extra minutes is two extra minutes.
Worth and time are a dependent on wealth and need, I have 2 of the viair 485C’s running to a 5 gallon tank in my Jeep that runs an air locker I also recently purchased the more flate 4 tire kit because after years and years of standing by a time inflating 1 at a time I wanted the ease of hooking up all 4 letting the pumps do their thing. I would not suggest this setup for everybody though as I worked hard to afford it not everybody has that option in life.
where did you mount the 5 gallon tank?
@@salcigar behind the back seat it’s all mounted on a removable board. I don’t really store anything back there besides the air compressors and tank along with a few tools.
@@a1racer441 thanks for the response. I've got dual Viair 444c's mounted under the hood of the JK and a 1.5 gallon tank behind the bumper, so yes a little envious of your 5 gallon tank.
@@salcigar yeah mine is a Cherokee on tons and 40’s so rear is basically large enough for anything. My brothers jk he mounted a 2.5 gallon where the large rear muffler goes. Jk’s are limited on space for sure.
old video, but nobody cares about how the people perform. We only care about how the equipment works. Morrflate destroyed the 400p.
I have apex RIV stems, Viair 440p under the hood and a 4 gallon pancake tank under the rear of my 23 Bronco. Plus a four tire air solution. I’m kicking rocks up on the jeep truck and blowing my train horns by the time the first tire is aired up
Nice setup! Now im tempted to do something similar!
Mount that viair in the bed and run it off the 30amp aux switch so you never have to pop the hood or take it out/put it back. That’s what I’m about to do.
"You're at 24 now" all the tires read 23 and one is 22......
An extra 4 minutes is not worth an extra two hundred an thirty five dollars. I am in no hurry
the bigger size of the gear pack (due to the additional air lines) is also a downside to me. In wranglers your cargo area is premium space you don't want to waste.
Instead of buying a viair 400 for $230 that only puts out 2.3 CFM, you can buy a smittybilt 2781 for about $180 that puts out 5.6CFM or the Desert Armor beast compressor for $230 , The summit racing compressor for $190 . Or the NAPA MAaxi track for $114 but is questionable in terms of reliability. All those last 3 put out 10.4 CFM which is comparable to the morrflate compressor. Same money as the viair 400p and will shave off a couple more minutes
The Napa Maxi Trac no longer exists.
Imagine you’re in shitty weather for those 4 minutes with hungry kids, or have bigger than a 35” tire. The MoRRFlate was just on sale for less than $200. Black Friday 2022.
4 minutes every time adds up, especially when you factor in that you don't have to kneel down at every tire multiple times after a long day on the trail. 4 tire inflation also balances tire pressure between all 4. You won't have one tire that's +/-.
If you make your own, its worth it.
Question is what is your time worth?
No replacement parts for Morrflate.
As others have said, most of the speed probably came from the compressor. I'm not familiar with the model that David had. Was it MORRFlate? Regardless, the most important compressor numbers for inflating large tires are CFM and duty cycle. For a tankless system, you just can't beat the Smittybilt 2781 at 5.65 CRM for less than $200. It's also rated for a 100% duty cycle for 40 minutes at 45 PSI and 75° F.
Lol these guys take forever to get off the trail. Honestly I definitely think it's worth it, few years down the line it will still be worth it.
If you got the money I don't see a reason to not get it.
Rather buy the Viair and put the $200+ towards my beer fund lol. Way too many hoses to deal with and could care less about saving 5 or 10 minutes. This aint a NASCAR event, it's offroading.
So one system is faster than the other - big deal, the person that finishes first still stands around waiting for the slowest person in the group anyway, so what's the point?
Ego
The point is the faster guy gets to wait in his Jeep with the heat on.
That compressor is loud, and that is a "No deal" for me.
NOT really a good comparison. Hands down, the 4 wheel system is worth the money. MAYBE once did I see the single wheel guy actually check his dashboard for the tire pressure, the other guy checked it religiously.....and it also has a delay which added time.
Plus the single line guy started with 13 lbs and moreflate started with 12 lbs
Yankee boy trail to Imogene?
I’m not buying the guys .. I’m buying the morrflate.. I have a Viair 400p and the guy’s are always wanting to head out
Are you guys racing? Like who does it faster or are you guys comparing the machines? The single pump team are being sore losers you got a close the hood put it away turn off the car clean your room make sure your tires have armor all lol.😅 I’m sure if you guys set up and start them at the same time whoever inflates faster the four tire system will win, hands-down and it will be faster than a four minute difference. Also, the other guy is younger slimmer fitter than Chris, so he was faster sitting up his stuff. It’s not a fair competition lol. I’d go. with Chris style pump
Just go with Power Tank
Make your own quad inflation system for half the price.
Nah, my time is worth too much to make my own. It’s not like this is expensive.
Hope doesn’t know how to roll the hoses either.
I’m going Morrflate just bc it seems Viair makes someone a sore loser and over-competitive 😂 his grumpy got worse as the video went on!!! Morrflate - better for the happy camper! 🤙🏼
Hey! Random question.... My sister has a 2021 Cherokee Trail Hawk. When she airs down it constantly tells her that her PSI is low and flashes.. is there anyway of disabling it? It seems like a really really stupid thing. It's a trail hawk and airing down is common
Gladiator was such a sore loser..
Amateur with the MORRFlate. Run the compressor as soon as you hook up. It will equalize once you hook up the rest.
Sorry Brad you got your ass kicked. In a real life situation you don't need to pack everything up and put all the caps on. You would throw the stuff in the ride and get the hell out of Dodge and then pack it up later. Or you could sit in a chair and have a nice cold drink and relax instead of dicking around with all 4 tires. In this competition despite all the rule change bs during the match Brad buddy you got beat. Cool video
Made me laugh 😂
And you also did not zip closed the air hose pocket and snap the final lid closed on your bag. 😂 I'm sure you don't normally put it away like that. 🤔 In fact, when you took it out of the back of your Jeep to begin with, the zipper was closed and the lid was snapped shut. 😲 So maybe 5+ faster. ☺️
Typical gladiator owner. Complaining about everything they don't have. Lol
viair can be rebuilt . i dont know if you can buy rebuild kits for morrflat. im going viair thanks. also it says its not goot to inflate a single tire on the double heads
Why do y'all look like yup from storage wars