Should you live in downtown St. Louis, Missouri?

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  • Опубликовано: 11 дек 2024

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  • @LivingStLouis
    @LivingStLouis  Год назад +1

    Thanks for watching! If you're looking at downtown lofts, check out the $237k loft tour we just did in August 2023: ruclips.net/video/t75r8SL6w4s/видео.html

    • @californiaplant-basedeater2761
      @californiaplant-basedeater2761 6 месяцев назад

      I'd move into the loft if they gave me $500k. $237k not enough.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  6 месяцев назад

      @@californiaplant-basedeater2761 Hahah I wish it worked like that!

  • @pringlized
    @pringlized Год назад +6

    I so appreciate these videos. Incredibly informative. I lived in a super busy restaurant/bar neighborhood in San Francisco for 20 years, so downtown living in St. Louis is totally my vibe. I'm still about 3-4 years out from relocating but St. Louis is totally where I'm gonna get a downtown condo and retire. This has really helped me start planning. And now that my Oakland A's broke my heart and are moving to Vegas, I'm getting on the Cardinal's train. Keep up the great work!

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  Год назад

      Thank you very much for watching and for your feedback!! Is there anything you'd like to see more of, or any different styles of videos that would be helpful to publish on this channel?

    • @colddeadhands5167
      @colddeadhands5167 Год назад

      Stay where you are.....crackheads and bums are much better than the horrific VIOLENCE that takes place here on a daily basis. This guy is a LIAR. Must be paid by the tourism board or chamber of commerce. There is NO redeeming quality to this city......

  • @dennissvitak148
    @dennissvitak148 2 года назад +13

    The three parking garages around Busch Stadium have had close to four THOUSAND breakins in the last three years. FOUR THOUSAND.

    • @chrisdean6700
      @chrisdean6700 Год назад

      That's because those who break in aren't responsible for their actions....so liberals say.

    • @jeffwebb2966
      @jeffwebb2966 Год назад +1

      Wow. Where do you get that info?

    • @chrisdean6700
      @chrisdean6700 Год назад

      @@jeffwebb2966 Trying working in the prison system & you'll get all the info you want.

    • @AW-pl3ou
      @AW-pl3ou Год назад

      I lived in downtown for 3 months and had two incidents one was a guy trying to highjack my car and the other had the headlights of my car stolen

    • @cotiocantoro7564
      @cotiocantoro7564 11 месяцев назад +1

      Take metrolink and leave your car at Shrewsbury.

  • @chetreid77
    @chetreid77 10 месяцев назад +2

    My mother lived in a downtown apartment loft in the mid 2010s, and I must tell you, she had a beautiful apartment. It was on Washington Ave, and it was very clean, safe (as in the building itself), and very centrally located and walkable. It was so nice that I strongly considered moving to that area. HOWEVER, her car got broken into all the time... and I mean ALL the time. She parked in an open air lot that was supposedly monitored instead of paying extra for a garage parking space, so I would suggest paying extra for more secured parking.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  9 месяцев назад

      Oh wow that's horrible it happened to her more than once.. Garage parking is definitely a great thing to have if it's offered in the building or available separately when living downtown

    • @90pala
      @90pala 3 месяца назад

      How do you consider it safe place if your car got broken into so many times?

  • @Healthyagingwithmarvin
    @Healthyagingwithmarvin 2 года назад +6

    I use to live downtown and loved it!!! It definitely fit the urban lifestyle thing. It isn't the most inviting Downtown but it did offer what it was supposed to offer.
    You where right about the block system and it does make driving around St Louis super easy along with the freeways.
    I will definitely let you know when I move back so you can help me. I'm sure the city has changed just like everything else.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  2 года назад

      Thanks for watching Marvin! Definitely a lot is changing and developing - both in the city and the suburbs if you ever decide to try a new area next time you come here!

    • @johnmininger7472
      @johnmininger7472 2 года назад

      We stopped in downtown St. Louis on a trip. Driven through St. Louis many times but have never stopped. I was impressed. Larger than I expected. Great old buildings converted to apartments/condos. Lots of places to eat. Very cool place and underrated imo.

  • @xftbllplyr2091
    @xftbllplyr2091 2 года назад +8

    Washington Avenue needs to be shut off at Tucker going North to car traffic. It should be foot and bike traffic only. That would slow up the cruising.
    BTW, no one thinks of Carr Square and Columbus Square as Downtown. They are just close. It’s pretty much Downtown and Downtown West.
    I would say this. Make sure the condo has stipulations for Air B&B. Also look for private secured parking if you have a car. You may have to pay for it, so spend the coin. You really don’t need a car but if you need to get packages, just get them picked up at a local facility. There are walkable grocery options now.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  2 года назад

      Those are valid points!!

    • @jeffwebb2966
      @jeffwebb2966 2 года назад +2

      Good ideas. I think Wash ave should be pedestrian only. We have to solve our security issues because the lofts and this city neighborhood is so cool.

    • @jeremiahsullivan7010
      @jeremiahsullivan7010 2 года назад

      Bs

  • @kliffordholly465
    @kliffordholly465 Год назад +7

    Ive been looking at the loft market out in STL for that last couple of years. They are so. cheap. for what youre getting and the ascetic is 100% my vibe! Im considering making the move soon. I will definitely reach out if I do! Im not scared by the crime, as people said the same thing about Detroit before I moved there. I loved D-town and only left because of the pandemic. My house was broken into in the middle of the day in Colorado Springs, CO....considered one of the best cities to live in. Crime happens everywhere.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  Год назад

      Some good points you bring up! ANd I totally hear you... I love the lofts I've seen in STL and the fact that they're so close to a ton of fun city hang outs

    • @madelinemcdonald2609
      @madelinemcdonald2609 Год назад +1

      I’m from Michigan and familiar with detroit and flint, I now live in a beautiful loft in downtown STL and it sucks. I can’t sleep because of gunshots and screaming at night and I live in a “safer” area. I screwed up living here but I hope someone sees this and it helps :)

    • @johngoldsworthy7135
      @johngoldsworthy7135 Год назад

      I tried the loft thing downtown St. Louis. This RUclipsr clearly has not lived in one of them. At night it is dangerous. Super aggressive homeless. Also the lifts tend to have paper thin walls

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  Год назад

      @@johngoldsworthy7135 Have not personally lived there. Have sold multiple.

    • @pringlized
      @pringlized Год назад +1

      I'm 100% with you. I sill need to stay in California for a few more years, but I'm already planning to re-locate. I've been to St. Louis a couple times and love the city.

  • @jeffwebb2966
    @jeffwebb2966 Год назад +4

    People in STL county suburbs say they never go downtown or the city anymore..I find that somewhat questionable as almost everything to do is in the city. Ballgames, hockey, museums, symphony, big concerts. All is either downtown or 5 mins away within the city. Yes there are nice restaurants in the county but what else do you do? Stay at home and watch tv? I live north of Delmar and crime is very much overblown. If you dont like city living and live in a suburban neighborhood then great! Just dont trash you own town all the time. No one outside of St. Louis cares about Chesterfield, Webster Groves, or St. Charles.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  Год назад

      Very good point!

    • @c.p379
      @c.p379 Год назад

      FACTS.

    • @cotiocantoro7564
      @cotiocantoro7564 11 месяцев назад

      I think it's a generational thing. The boomers on average are leery of the city but younger people seem to like it more.

    • @albakerjr
      @albakerjr 11 месяцев назад

      It’s not generational, its more like not having your car broken into our your catalytic converter cut off from under your car by city hood rats, If you live in downtown St Louis you become hostage in your own home. Anybody that says it’s a great place to live is lying.🐀

  • @Roobah
    @Roobah 7 месяцев назад +4

    As one who lives in "downtown STL" ... Points you missed or just plain got wrong:
    1. Public transportation in downtown Saint Louis is as good as the best cities in the USA, maybe not as good as NYC or Denver, but close. Walk score at my condo is 94. That is nothing to sneeze at. I specifcally moved to downtown to use public transportation for work. Adequate and cheap public transportation to anything and anywhere in the world, super easy public transportation -- or even WALK to Amtrak, Greyhound -- train to Saint Louis International Airport, walk or bus to car rental locations, street car rentals, scooters, Uber, Lyft, Taxi. Yes, trains are not that safe and neither are some bus stops. But ON the busses are generally quite safe and pleasant. I speak fro. Experience as one who went 7 years without a vehicle in Downtown ST Louis, like about 15% of other residents.
    2. Stay off Wash Ave, Locust, Broadway, and Tucker and crime goes down by about a factor of at least 10. Locals know where and when it is safe to walk, which streets are monitored by live police cameras -- everywhere. Do not frequent by homeless camps and drug corners and you will be fine.
    3. Ask locals living here what they least like and it is in no particular order
    a)out of control AirBnB parties,
    b) street racing and lack of traffic law enforcement,
    c) 3 AM liquor license facilities and bar owners who cannot manage their patrons.
    d) 2-4:30 AM garbage collection slamming dumpsters around and back up beepers.
    More neighborhood dislikes:
    4) disrespectful downtown events who take resident parking away during events (cordoned off or illegal parking of visitors) and out of town visitors who trash the neighborhood during and after events.
    5) Lack of building security and porch pirates stealing packages. (Moving to downtown? ASK about building security measures. You will pay out the nose for it in HOA fees, but it is well worth it to have your building and packages safe.)
    6) Downtown Saint Louis, while it has great resturants and bars, is sorely lacking in grocery and big box shopping choices and is absolutely a food desert. But hey, with the tacked on CID taxes in the district, I rather grocery shop in Illinois for the tax savings anyway. You have no car to go shopping? Try Uber Eats, Instscart, Walmart+. Literally, you could hole up and never keave your condo building at all and live quite well. IMO, IDEAL for an elderly person who needs to be close to great medical facilities (BJC and Saint Louis University Hospital down the street just 3-4 miles.)
    Best of all:
    If you DO move downtown, consider a high rise condo with a sunrise or sunset view -- Saint Louis City has some really amazing sunset views. Live above the 3rd floor for safety. Buy or rent a place that includes enclosed parking. If you rent, parking is about $100-150/ month extra. Enclosed parking seriously improves chances your car will not get broken into. (Every day my vehicle is parked on the street and still has its catalytic converter is a miracle to me.) OH yeah, and KIA Bois is a resl thing. Do not dare park a KIA or Hyundai into Downtown St. Louis.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  7 месяцев назад

      Extremely good points thank you for sharing! The airbnb parties and early morning trash I had no idea about

  • @donlittle732
    @donlittle732 Год назад +2

    Washington Avenue is like Dodge City on a Saturday night without the Earp boys to protect you.

  • @terryd2188
    @terryd2188 Год назад

    Being from the South Side of St Louis but living in Tx when I'm home, I move around the city differently than I do here in Tx. You can have a good time there, but you also have to watch out for the guys who are trying to pull fast ones on you. Like any big city, as long as you pay attention to your surroundings and enjoy trying only the foods that belong to St Louis.

  • @jeffwebb2966
    @jeffwebb2966 2 года назад +2

    I decided to live in the west end area to have a small yard and be close to Forest Park, which is still very close to downtown, but I have some friends that live downtown and there are things about the traffic. During the summer when Cards games are happening it is very crowded, but you figure out the side streets and alleys to get yourself around. Having on site parking is really a must and then it is ok. You don't want your car on the street. There have been issues with airbnb places renting units to party groups but hopefully this is getting under control. Most of the rest of the year it is quiet.

  • @Red_Ryan_Red
    @Red_Ryan_Red Год назад +2

    I'm still trying to find a place that I could call home in the future. After seeing the rent for downtown STL, it's seems like a steal. Being able to get to the airport without stepping foot in a car is a MUST. I guess my only hesitation would be what kind of jobs are available to me and I guess... the crime... Other than that it seems great, and a new Soccer stadium??? Man, it's between here, Chicago, Seattle, or back to the DC area!

    • @thechappist
      @thechappist 7 месяцев назад

      I'm sure STL will be the more affordable place. If you pick the right spot you'll have a lot very close at hand. The city government has tons of openings and if you find a place to live close to city hall.. its beautiful and you can walk to work. Seattle is a beautiful place and I don't know about DC... but for the money, STL is the place to be; right in the middle between DC and Seattle. Chicago.. too cold in the winter and quite pricey IMO. Hope you found a good spot (just now seeing you posted this 11 months ago)

  • @jeffwebb2966
    @jeffwebb2966 2 года назад +2

    Such a cool area, if I worked downtown (although few do these days) I would live in the Arcade building as it is so cool and has a rooftop pool and deck. I would go to ballgames or hockey games 2 or 3 days a week. It's not a family place tho.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  2 года назад

      Totally hear you- and you're spot on the Arcade bldg is one of my favorites

    • @IslamMES
      @IslamMES Год назад +1

      @@LivingStLouis How much is the rent of a 3 bedroom apartment in st Louis downtown?

  • @GLH-t3p
    @GLH-t3p 3 месяца назад

    65 and lifelong St Louis resident. Before moving to St Louis, watch the local news spanning a few weeks, or rent a hotel room downtown for a few days. Be ready to have your car broken into wherever you are.
    Had jury duty downtown many times. Always wore my bright yellow jury badge on the outside of my coat so people would see it and leave me alone. I walked from the courts building to Union Station for lunch no problem. As soon as my service ended and I had no badge, it became a different world on my way home. Homeless made ugly comments and followed me asking for money, vagrants screamed at me when I crossed the street to get away from them. The parking garage we used was always filthy and poorly lit. There is no romance about St Louis downtown.
    And one of our Cardinals fans was shot, and partially paralyzed for life as he exited the game and was shot in front of the stadium by men trying to shoot someone else.

  • @kylemendoza8860
    @kylemendoza8860 Год назад

    Where is the best night live to bar hop?

  • @c.p379
    @c.p379 Год назад +1

    I am from STL… I moved away in my 20s … traveled a LOT & lived in downtown SEATTLE for several years… ya’ll talk about homelessness here. You guys have NO idea. Like he said crime is EVERYWHERE. Kinda ironic how SEATTLE & SAINT LOUIS handle crime & homelessness MUCH differently than other cities.

  • @davidmorse3679
    @davidmorse3679 Год назад +1

    Hi I live in England but I am visiting St Louis to see my favourite Ice Hockey team St Louis Blues play in February 2023. My hotel is close to the Enterprise centre in Downtown St Louis. How safe is it for a tourist like myself to walk around Downtown St Louis? Thanks for your help Neil

    • @drewgildehaus7931
      @drewgildehaus7931 Год назад

      Don’t go north of delmar

    • @colddeadhands5167
      @colddeadhands5167 Год назад

      Hope you survived....

    • @carl5381
      @carl5381 Год назад +1

      sounds like you didn't make it

    • @madelinemcdonald2609
      @madelinemcdonald2609 Год назад

      You’re fine during the day, do not leave your hotel at night

    • @JohnnyBgood548
      @JohnnyBgood548 Год назад

      Sketchy at best. Odds are it could be seemingly safe but remember people get struck by lightning. I avoid at all costs safer to watch on TV

  • @JM-rf3lv
    @JM-rf3lv 7 месяцев назад +1

    We live several hours away from StLouis in a somewhat rural area. A coworkers daughter graduated college and wanted to live the city against his advice. . Moved downtown near the dome. Within two months her car windows were broken out, got mugged and was threatened in the foyer of her building. Called Dad crying and his words to her were “That’s city life.” She moved.

  • @katiesharp3132
    @katiesharp3132 4 месяца назад

    I will be giving you a call I need a new place to live thx

  • @thejessicarae
    @thejessicarae Год назад

    Wouldn’t count Carr square or Columbus Square as Downtown but part of the Near Northside

  • @majestyallwell6438
    @majestyallwell6438 Год назад

    Do you guys do rentals?

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  Год назад

      Hey! So unfortunately as agents it's tough to do rentals in STL and it'll usually be easier and faster for you to work directly with the property manager or leasing office on behalf of any apartment or house you're interested in renting

    • @majestyallwell6438
      @majestyallwell6438 Год назад

      @@LivingStLouis okay thanks. I'm graduating in May and I got a job offer to work in the Berkeley area, will be moving in July. I wanted to know what areas are safe to live in. I am looking at Center west end, Clayton and midtown. Any advice?

  • @junejunejune291
    @junejunejune291 2 года назад

    Is there any video for rental?? Condo or Apartment

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  2 года назад

      Currrently I don't have any videos on rentals on this channel but I believe other people on RUclips have made videos on renting in St Louis

  • @GaryBilder
    @GaryBilder 3 месяца назад

    I’ve lived in the suburbs of St. Louis for 31 years. I have lived in 13 different towns. St. Louis is my absolute favorite. I’m proud of this city, however, understand that St Louis is about 300 thousand. Towns surrounding St Louis total over 2.8 million. You would have to be crazy to live downtown. Period. Every city has its bad areas. St. Louis has very bad areas. Just know and don’t go.

  • @chrisdean6700
    @chrisdean6700 Год назад +2

    You can....IF....you live in an Abrams main battle tank.

  • @jamesh7571
    @jamesh7571 3 месяца назад

    Thumbs Up cuz ur really cute my dude! ❤

  • @robertmontague1216
    @robertmontague1216 11 месяцев назад

    No thanks, I'm happy here in Brentwood

  • @drewmantia
    @drewmantia 3 месяца назад

    NO! I’ve done it. Don’t do it. Now I only go downtown when I’m getting paid to do so.

  • @amaraland1
    @amaraland1 Год назад

    Don't bring any kids to the table. MAKE STRICT LAWS, CURFEW, PUNISHMENTS. PERIOD!!

  • @dennissvitak148
    @dennissvitak148 2 года назад +3

    150 grand for a huge condo? Why? The floors are tile, so you won't bleed as bad after you're stabbed. This alone should tell you everything you need to know.

  • @fraternitas5117
    @fraternitas5117 2 года назад +12

    only if you want to be a hostage in your home.

    • @LivingStLouis
      @LivingStLouis  2 года назад +2

      How so?

    • @cl65captain
      @cl65captain 2 года назад +3

      Don’t get shot. One of my friends is an agoraphobic after recovering from being car jacked and shot three times - he lived on Washington Ave. now he has to live with his parents and doesn’t leave his house.

    • @fraternitas5117
      @fraternitas5117 2 года назад +4

      @@cl65captain Condolences buddy. Its a mean city.

    • @chrisdean6700
      @chrisdean6700 Год назад +2

      @@LivingStLouis St. Louie is #1 per capita in homicides, that's why.

    • @madelinemcdonald2609
      @madelinemcdonald2609 Год назад +3

      I moved downtown this year (2023). Overall I love this city but downtown is not safe. Gunshots multiple nights a week on my street, crazy driving, constant screaming and violence. Like I said, I like St. Louis but you can’t leave your apartment after 8:00 without risking your life. This is not an exaggeration

  • @catalinalopezleonmi
    @catalinalopezleonmi 2 года назад

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  • @jeromewegand4785
    @jeromewegand4785 Год назад +1

    I MOVED DOWNTOWN NINE MONTHS AGO FROM UNIVERSITY CITY, DUE TO TRANSIT PROXIMITY AND IT'S CHEAP, BUT DODGY AT NIGHT. DOWNTOWN SHOULD PRAY FOR AN ASTEROID STRIKE !

  • @usernameisusername
    @usernameisusername 5 месяцев назад

    What?????? Who willingly would live in the most dangerous city in America????

  • @rpm12091
    @rpm12091 2 года назад

    Shit ton describes St. Louis pretty good.

  • @zrob89m21
    @zrob89m21 6 месяцев назад

    The answer is NO

  • @Chitown18
    @Chitown18 Год назад +1

    Downtown St. Louis suckssss , only like 2-3 resteraunts in walkable distance … the nightlife is non existent since most of stuff closes by 6 …don’t even get me started on all the empty businesses , boarded up run down …then the homeless and pandlers

    • @jeffwebb2966
      @jeffwebb2966 Год назад +2

      I understand STL is not like downtown Chicago. There are so many more people living in downtown Chicago so that keeps it vibrant etc. Sometime I think we keep our downtown like grandma's dishes and we just bring it out for special occasions. So there is a lot of work to do but it has been improving. It takes time.

  • @jameslong5139
    @jameslong5139 5 месяцев назад

    NO you don't want to live downtown!!!

  • @dennissvitak148
    @dennissvitak148 2 года назад +3

    I live in a suburb of St. Louis, about twenty miles west. I no longer go into the city..not even for a Cardinal's game. It is flat out unsafe. ALL areas of St. Louis city are a crime infested cesspool.

    • @jeffwebb2966
      @jeffwebb2966 Год назад +3

      I live in the city and have been here 4 years. No problems at all. If you are too afraid of urban areas it is probably best not to come.

    • @chrisdean6700
      @chrisdean6700 Год назад

      @@jeffwebb2966 Well Jeff...you have...so far...beat the odds of being the victim of a violent crime. Congrats!

    • @thejessicarae
      @thejessicarae Год назад +2

      @@chrisdean6700 I’ve lived north of Downtown for nearly 8 years and absolutely love it here. I have the best neighbors. We have festivals, art galleries, a farmers market and 8 community gardens.

    • @chrisdean6700
      @chrisdean6700 Год назад

      @@thejessicarae And I'm very happy for you...seriously. I lived in the St. Louis area for years when I worked for the GM plant in Wentzville. When liberal politics takes over a city, it becomes a den of crime.

    • @dennissvitak148
      @dennissvitak148 Год назад

      @@jeffwebb2966 -I have a family. There is no way I would subject them to that level of risk. I am also a retired Master Sergeant, and know how to protect myself. I STILL wouldn't take the metrolink. Just yesterday, Metrolink announced all trains would be a single car, with armed guards on each one. That is no way to live.

  • @carl5381
    @carl5381 Год назад

    I can walk most areas in most European cities at dead midnight and not fear for my safety. I wouldn't be caught ever walking around St Louis at night. Ever. Born and raised there and left. Best choice I've ever made. The city has shrunk to below 300k for a reason. If aren't a wealthy hipster that lives over on the west end, the city is trash.