Its annoying how people say the trinity doctrine was made up in church council. The trinity is littered with scripture and proof through out the whole bible. Oneness doctrine is nowhere to be found. It itself is based on scriptures taken out of context. Jesus never said he was the Father. Jesus never said he was the Spirit. Oneness basically says that in john 3 16, the the father did not send his son but that he became the son. Oneness has to call jesus a liar for saying he was sent. Oneness has to discard that jesus said he witnesses of himself and the Father witnesses of him because the rule of 2 or more. Oneness has to ignore that jesus is the mediator because a mediator is a person who comes between 2 or more. That man christ jesus is the word. He is fully God AND fully man. Oneness has to ignore the john 1:1. Repent from this heresy
Notice the man in the video will not respond to you. He doesnt have an argument so he just makes a video and ignores the rebuttals. Very dishonest if you ask me.
Im a oneness believer, and yes God sent his Son but the Son before Gid's spirit filled it was just a body, so God did indeed send his Son. However when Gid stepped into that Body we see that it obtainec his name whuch is hugher than all the angels (jesus christ), we that exchange and there is anither exchange where God can niw take on the title if the flesh he sent(The Son) because he stepoed in it, so we see that there is an exchange. For God has many titles. When it says the Father bear witness of me and i bear witness of the Father, it simply means that The spirit of God bears witness of the flesh and that the flesh too bears withness of God.
And when it says that Jesus is the mediator, to have a mediator you have to be seperate from that which you want ti communicate with. So Jesus is the mediator because his death, resurrection and blood now joins us back with God because we were once seperated from God.
John 8:19,21,23-25 [19] Then they asked him, "WHERE IS YOUR FATHER?" Jesus answered, "You neither know me, nor my Father. If you had known me, you should have known my Father also." [21] Then Jesus again unto them, "I go my way, and YOU SHALL SEEK ME, AND SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS. Where I go, ye cannot come." [23] And he said unto them, "You are from beneath; I AM FROM ABOVE. You are of this world; I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD. [24] I SAID THEREFORE unto you, THAT YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS. FOR IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT I AM HE, YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS." [25] Then they asked him, "WHO ARE YOU?" And Jesus said unto them, "EVEN THE SAME THAT I SAID UNTO YOU FROM THE BEGINNING." The Israelites knew EXACTLY what He was saying! That's why in the Scriptures, they sought to kill Him!
This 'from the beginning' was 'from the beginning of his ministry work, not from the beginning of creation. Jesus as the Word was 'in the beginning' but not as Jesus, 'born of a woman, born under the law' Galatians 4:4.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 I can't reason with someone who believes there are TWO GODS! SORRY! I gave you a TON of Scripture and your interpretation of Scripture, well, is just plain weird. We have gone round and round and I'm done. You ask people questions and you make your statements but you aren't even reading the answers to understand. Anyway, I've exhausted A LOT of time on you. I don't regret it because it's what JESUS called me to do. The only thing I regret is that you aren't learning anything. If and when GOD wants you to understand, then you will. Until then, if I were you, I'd QUIT teaching others that there are TWO EQUAL GODS! That is heresy and idolatry at its finest!
@@childofthemosthigh5219 When is it Ever Idolatry and Heresy When Your Statement Agrees With Scripture!??!?!! 1- the Father gave away his authority over mankind to his Son Jesus Christ John5:22,27; unsupervised authority to his Son over man John5:22, whether in heaven or in the earth Matthew 28:18 Even over the church: A- 'gave him to be head over all things [yes, over all things] to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23. B- 1b * Jesus Christ is the CEO CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF ADMINISTRATIONS 'there are differences of administrations but the same Lord 1st Constitution 12:5 2b* God the Father is COO CHIEF OF OPERATIONS 'And there are diversities of operations but it is the same God which works all in all' 1st Corinthians 12:6 , voluntarily 1st Corinthians 15:27 'but when he says all things are put under him it is manifest - clearly known - that he is excepted which did put all things under him' 1st Corinthians 15:27. God went Further: Jesus said "that all should honor the Son even as they honor the Father' John 5:23 How much do you Honor The Father? Jesus' honor is not an honorary title, or position, as God his Father gave him, Jesus, unsupervised authority over all men in heaven and in earth Matthew 28:18, John 5:22,27. Hebrews 1:8 'but unto the Son, Your throne o God is for ever and ever; the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom' Hebrews 1:8: Jesus has his own kingdom John 18:36, Revelation 11:15. The problem with your TON OF EVIDENCE IS . .. IT DOESN'T ANSWER MY PORTIONS OF SCRIPTURE NOR DOES IT EXPLAIN BY INTEGRATING IT INTO THE OTHER SEEMINGLY CONTRADICTORY PORTIONS.
When the Bible mentions that the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit are one, that means they’re the same in essence. They’re one YHWH but three different persons. That is why God is called Elohim. Is wrong to say that God transforms in roles because denies the deity of Christ. If the trinity doesn’t exist, then God’s eternal plan of salvation through his son is destroy. Oneness is a heresy.
The doctrine of the Trinity came out of Rome not Jerusalem. Amazes me how Protestants and evangelicals try to distance themselves from the Roman Catholic Church but most have adopted this heretical doctrine as their own. Think most people are steadfast in their belief of the Trinity out of loyalty to the teachings of their denominations which is un-Scriptual in itself.
Matthew 28:19 now baptize in the name of the father, son and Holy Spirit. How would you interpret that as a Unitarian? No offense just curious, I myself am agnostic about the trinity.
Why did GOD the FATHER say there is NO SAVIOUR BUT ME . The old testament still exists . You do know that ? The Father , Son , Holy Ghost are a Parable so we can know the Almighty God which is beyond comprehension.
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell? Prov 30:4
@@JC-Genesis15.6That was forward looking, or prophetic, just as Ps. 2:7 is. It is not suggestive of a eternal son of God, but of from their viewpoint in history, the coming Messiah.
Suddenly today the Oneness doctrinal position makes sense it is only taken me 50 years AND about 11 months since April 12th 1970 but it is such a great relief to finally see it and be able to commit to something that is truth that you've been a big part of that by your attention to detail on the various Bibles which I figure translates into attention to detail in the Bible itself as we say in Texas it takes what it takes.
Beloved if oneness is true why does God desire relation with us. It would be contrary to his nature given that he existed from eternity past alone. Before Adam sinned the only thing God said was bad was that Adam was alone. Again this is reflecting God's multipersonal nature, which was only fully revealed and dimystified with the coming of Christ in the flesh.😔😢🙏📖⏳♨️
@truth_merchant7839 it's amazing how you make up all this arguments that you have no evidence to. The trinity has to be read into the text by the reader because otherwise, its just not there.
I know I should be able to understand much of this Oneness. But that combined with the Trinity just makes my head spin I did graduate from the University of Texas at Austin in 1971 so I know how to make it through tough times. It just seems it Trinity and Oneness are two competing events and I cannot really understand either one of them
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Your bible audio teach vs from church are mostly inaudible. Your love and instruction on the various Bibles leads me to believe that you're probably right on the Oneness Doctrine I just need some simple explanation of how it works I think I'm getting there but it sure difficult the brother who wrote the one this book is I think the pastor of the church here in Austin of course nobody can get out anymore and I couldn't even if I wanted to because I can't drive and I'm not healthy enough to get out
When it comes to subject of the nature of God. Have it be a oneness or trinitarian or something else. I don't think anybody truly can understand or subscribe who and what God is by nature. I come from a background that is trinitarian. But over the last few years I have ventured outside that framework trying to study and read and listen to other views of God. It's one reason why I like this channel
Amen, love it! The one eternal invisible Spirit of God did manifest himself into time and physicality (his creation). "He came unto his own, and his own received him not." Jn. 1:11. Jesus is the express image of God's (singular) person (Heb. 1:1-3). This would imply that God has "person" qualities albeit at an eternal and invisible level, incarnate to us in Jesus (Col. 2:9). This would explain Thomas' words when he exclaimed to Jesus; "My Lord and my God." Jn. 20:28. It also explains why the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is Jesus, fusing Matt. 28:19 with Acts 2:38.
Scripture speaks of reconciliation. We are enemies of God. But He sent the Son to reconcile us to the Father. Who then sends the Spirit to seal us and to sanctify. To say they are all the same person is blatantly go against scripture. The Son saves only whom the Father draws. The Spirit then dwells in them
If you've seen him(Jesus) you've seen the Father. John 12:15 "He that seeth me seeth him that sent me." John 8:58 "Before Abraham was I am." Isaiah 9:6 Micah 5:2, John 10:30 1 Timothy 3:16. It's all there Jesus is God in human form... not a second person in a tri-unity. Oneness is far from heresy... its is the faith of our Fathers.
@@javierdelgado1554 I was also a trinity believer. This is installed in men without any reference of the word, they grow with it and believe it as it is. Just because my pastor said soo, just because I was taught this from bible college. They are so occupied and they don't give any room to understand this. But I want to confess that I was one of them, until God set me free. Just listen to Oneness with open mind and say God I want to learn your will, God sees the motives.....He will help. It was against my will to receive it but I allowed the Word of God to defeat me! My life with GOD has dynamically grown in a great way. THE BIBLE HAS BECOME NEW TO ME, AND I HAVE REALIZED THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WAY WE READ IT, THAT IS WHY WE NEED SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING!
@@javierdelgado1554 How could Jesus be the Father when he is in the Father and the Father is in him, he speaks the words of the Father John 14:7-11?????
@@joginahlesetja3550 U: Oneness in which the Father, Son, and Spirit are each other, yes? I agree with there are two Gods 'in the beginning' the Word and 'the' God as shown in 'the Word was with the God' in the Greek in John 1:1b and the Word was God was made flesh as Jesus was not a true God John 17:3 but after his death and resurrection to heaven begotten of God Acts13:33 2nd Corinthians 5:2,4 anointed Hebrews 1:9 as God Hebrews 1:8, John 5:22,23 'sitting on the right hand of power' Mark 14:62, 'sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high' Hebrews 1:3. Jesus spoke the words of the Father in John 8:17-18's teaching that the Son and the Father are two men witnesses, each having his own material body with a spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d with Zechariah 12:1.
I was raised oneness, but when I learned how to read and exegete scripture for what it says and not presupposing oneness, I quickly found that it fell apart. Last year I watched Sam Shamoun absolutely school Steven Ritchie in a debate and that's when I knew I couldn't hang onto the heresy anymore. Oneness theology's biggest enemy is the word of God.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa @New Life Of Albany Ga. What is wrong with the approach that both are true? In the same way that we can not comprehend that Jesus was fully man and fully God, we cannot comprehend that God is one, yet also three in spirit. Bible says that God is one, and Jesus himself separates himself from God, saying that only one is good, the father. Yet he also says "I and my father are one", but that he sits on the right hand of God. I don't understand it, but I can't deny that there's an indication of both oneness and an element of separation. In no way do I think trinitarianism thinks we have three Gods, ranked in any order. But Jesus separates himself from God, and also says that Holy Spirit is the comforter that would come after him (though the OT says plenty of times that so-and-so was 'filled with the holy spirit'). So my takeaway thus far has been that God is spirit, and God is one, but within God are the roles of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and the same God is all three of those things. They are separate but the same. Perhaps I don't understand enough about oneness theology. But I don't want to know about any theology as much as I just want to understand the truth of christ and keep his word.
@@jaronferrer6491 Jesus spoke the words of God the Father John 14:9-10 in John 8:17-18's teaching: the Son Jesus Christ is a man witness by the law of Jesus' listeners, meaning each has his own material body - a mortal material dust flesh body - with his own spirit of man - the Spirit of God's Son crying Abba Father Galatians 4:6; the Spirit of Christ Romans 8:9, the Spirit of adoption calling Abba Father Romans 8:15; the Spirit of Jesus Christ Philippians 1:19 - within his man body; God the Father (God John 8:54, Spirit John 4:24) has his own material body - God [before creation] material Spirit man body - with his own spirit of man - the Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11b - within his God material Spirit man body 1st Corinthians 2:11.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 yes, the spirit of God was in Christ, no one's denying that, hopefully. I have no argument to make, other than arguing against the inclination to argue. You listed plenty of scripture, there are just as many testifying to a slightly different conclusion. It's more than we can understand. So I just accept what the Bible says, and I don't try to use scripture to negate other scripture. I just try to understand, and leave to Him when I don't.
@@xraylemur Shouldn't you agree we 'should live by every word of God' Matthew 4:4?????? Wouldn't that involve exercising our ability to discern between Scriptures which would be our going from the milk of the word to increasingly learning to eat the meat of the word of God Hebrews 5:13-14. What do you think? Going from drinking the milk of the word 1st Peter 2:2, 1st Corinthians 3:2, to eating the meat of the word of God Hebrews 5:13-14 involves exercising between Scriptures and differing words, meanings, and conclusions. I would like to help you. Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.” - Isaiah 12:2 (KJV) “And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.” - Isaiah 25:9 (KJV) Isaiah 43 (KJV) ¹⁰ Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. ¹¹ I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Isaiah 45 (KJV) ⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: ⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. Isaiah 45 (KJV) ²¹ Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. ²² Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.” - Isaiah 54:5 (KJV) "And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.” - Isaiah 59:16 (KJV) “Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.” - Isaiah 60:16 (KJV) “Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.” - Hosea 13:4 (KJV) Psalms 22 (KJV) ¹⁶ For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. ¹⁷ I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. ¹⁸ They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. “And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.” - Zechariah 11:12 (KJV) “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” - Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” - Micah 5:2 (KJV) “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” - Matthew 1:23 (KJV) “And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.” - Luke 1:47 (KJV) “Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,” - Luke 1:68 (KJV) Little fun fact. Look up what the Hebrew word is that's used for "salvation" in Isaiah 12:2.
God is one and alone his name is JESUS I am the Lord Thy God the Holy ONE of Israel thy Savior isa 43: 3 HOLY ONE ( Not Holy 3) Jesus and All Apostoles never taught TRINITY JESUS SAID THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD JN17 ( Not 3 Person)
your so wrong Jesus is the second member of the Trinity. Mark 16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. that's the Father got it Hmm
I have Trinitarian family members who have compared us to Mormons... and think we are a cult. They also frowned when we told them we believe in the baptism in the name of Jesus...You really find out who's who when you tell someone you are a Oneness believer.
Javier Delgado A cult is defined as having two or more distinctions contrary to orthodoxy. Usually these involve denying the diety of Jesus Christ John5:23, and the Christ come in the flesh 1st John 4:1-2.
For me, I actually find Pastor Waldron's approach one that acts in the fruits of the Spirit. I've interacted with other oneness individuals who vohemently cast condemnation and have no interest in dialogue, and aptly simply damn anyone not believing as they do. I haven't come to embrace oneness because of various texts throughout scripture.
@@brendakauffman2222 the Bible is full of Oneness scriptures. Jesus speaks of the Father being the only true God...because there is only one God. If Jesus is God then we must assume that Jesus is the Father manifest in the flesh. A triune God is not taught anywhere in scripture....neither by Jesus or his Apostles...it is a formulated doctrine developed over time from pagan philosophies...they wanted to mix the Holy with the world, like the iron mixed with clay, which is the Holy Roman Empire who claims to be the only true church...anyone who held to a Oneness view of God was fiercely persecuted by RCC.
The God of Modalism is not the God of Scripture. In addition, the God of the Bible does not change - his nature stays forever the same. (Malachi 3:6) God does not mediate between Himself. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5). (John 5:20) does not mean the Father loves Himself. Modalism Is Inconsistent And Confusing, if the Father, Son, and Spirit are the only God under three different names or modes, then the New Testament would be totally inconsistent and confusing. For example, in the prayer of Jesus Christ, recorded in John 17, He is addressing His Father. According to Modalism He is praying to Himself. Such an idea is absurd. I wouldn’t like to have a millstone around my neck (Matthew 18:6)…
Trinitarians love to say: Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord, …🤯….BUT……………😂😂😂😂 Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. Trinity, triune or triune god is not even mentioned in the scriptures…..BUT…😂😂😂😂 Pray harder!
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell? Proverbs 30:4
I am surprised to hear from you in this video that you used to believe in Trinity.You are right the Bible does not contain the word Trinity and so is Oneness.This topic is a very sensitive one.We may not agree on every doctrine or Biblical concepts while on earth but when we get to heaven all this disagreements will be over.
The word trinity did not yet exist in biblical times....it was not invented until around the 3rd century. The Bible also describes dinosaur like creatures....but does not use the word dinosaur....because it was not yet invented.
@@TheRoyalAngler Theologians invented or coined terms in order to help believers understand Bible concepts or doctrine.The Bible is the Word of God and I believe it,I worship God in three persons in one God,you may believe that God is one just like the Jews and other monotheist while I God differently in the Trinity.I respect what you believe and expect others who believe differently from me to respect my belief as well.
@@joseenriqueagutaya131 no I believe in the trinity just as you! These oneness people are being deceived by the devil. The will tell you things that sound good and truthfull or even holy to get you to believe his tricks. Read all my comments on here!
@@TheRoyalAngler I'm sorry I mistook you as a believer in Oneness.I just can't understand why people insist on teaching that God is Father,Son and Holy Spirit.Personally I believe Scriptures teaches One God in three Persons not just manifestation.Take for example during Christ crucixion who was Christ talking in Luke 23:33 and called Him Father Himself or another Person.There are many other verses one can read understand that there is one God in three Persons not three Gods.One reference that clearly says the Father and the Son are two distinct persons is in the baptism of Jesus Christ in Matthew 3:13-17,particularly in verse 17 where the voice (Father)from heaven saying This is my beloved Son,in whom I am well pleased.
@@joseenriqueagutaya131 its okay, just pray for the ones being deceived and not argue with them...simply present them with the truth and if they refuse to believe or accept it...all we can do after that is the same we can do with sinners...pray for them...we can show them the light but cannot force them to step into it. They must make that choice on their own.
One or Two, or Even Three ... Oneness or the Trinity? What is this talk, that I hear? A Trinity, that you declare. You think I need, society? I conform to your, propriety? Had I not declared, from days of old? Can't you accept, what you've been told? I declared I AM! Only One! I AM the Spirit, and in the Son. I do not need, Anyone else. I AM complete, within Myself. Who do I need, to council Me? You think I need, two or three? I AM GOD, don't you understand? I do not need, a helping hand. All for you, that I have done, it was YOU, who needs a Son! Foreordained, from long ago, I told you what, you need to know. So when I came, My people would see, in that Man, Messiah would be. I became a Father, when I begat a Son to fulfill My Promise, until My work is done. The Son did not exist, before the fall, I'm just One God, I'm ALL IN ALL. It is YOU who sin, and YOU who die, I made a way, to give you Life. A blood sacrifice, is what I command. So I gave you, the Perfect Lamb. But you forget, the reason why, I came to Earth, from on High. My Sacrifice, on that Stand, the Son of God AND Son of Man. A mediator, between you and Me, I gave My Life, so you would see, just how much, I love you all, to wash your sins, from the fall. I gave you My Word, for you to read, to recognize fulfillment, of prophesy. In everything, that I have done, you insist it is I, who needs that Son. As if that isn't, bad enough, you think I need, another's love. This other Person, the Holy Spirit? Then Who Am I, with this limit? I AM SPIRIT and I AM TRUTH! But you insist, I'm just like you. You try to reason, and justify, Who I AM, that sits on High. There is but One, on My Throne. I AM that Chief, Cornerstone. I AM that Foundation, and that Rock, to many of you, a stumbling block. A Rock of offense, not just for Jews, but to all who reject, My Good News. It's important for you, to understand, the Jews know WHAT, I [really] AM. I entrusted them, with My Oracles. Don't ignore, the historicals. They know I'm One, or it's blasphemy! There's No One Else. There's Only Me. "Hear O Israel, the Lord is One" That is why, they rejected the Son. They saw a man, claimed to be God, in Equality, and Echad [One]. I did not withhold, a secret from them. You must understand, I AM THAT I AM! Nothing's impossible, for Almighty God! Faith is believing that, in your heart. "Trust in Me," I have said, there are things, you cannot understand. YOU are divided. It isn't Me. I AM ONE, not a Trinity. I AM JESUS, that is My Name! Father and Son, Spirit's the same. I AM Love, it's not something I need! What makes you think, I get lonely? Are you putting words, into My Mouth? Teaching lies, that cannot be found? I warned you don't add, nor take away, lest you repent, you will die in vain. Teaching for, doctrines of men, false prophets abound, are you one of them? Read both Testaments, Old and New. Not one excluded, so read them through. Don't get too deep, in theology, don't get blinded by, your philosophy. With My help, My Word was made, to be understood, by even babes. Changing God, to fit your rules, professing to be wise, you become as fools. The Bible is, a personal task I'd help you out, if you'd only ask. Do not qualify, your faith from men. I'm your Rabbi. The Great Amen. Here is Scripture, reintroduced, of Who I AM, it's in My clues. Parables and prophesies, visions and dreams, not all is clear, not what it seems. Some are direct, and some are vague. The answer's in, My Holy Name. Emmanuel [God with Us] Jesus [God Saves] YAH [I AM] Written by Sharon Ellis Sunday, March 8th, 2020 Inspired by the words of the Holy Spirit. John 14:10 Believest thou not that I AM IN THE FATHER, and THE FATHER IN ME? The words that I speak unto you I SPEAK NOT OF MYSELF, BUT THE FATHER THAT DWELLS IN ME. HE DOES THE WORKS. In Jesus' own words above, remember what He said as you read the Bible! He is saying the words He speaks are the words of The FATHER! So, when you read everything Jesus says, remember it is The FATHER SPEAKING 😘 Jesus Christ said in John 12:49 "For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak." The Father is the Holy Spirit dwelling in the Man Named Jesus [the] Christ, Who said He doesn't speak on His Own but is the FATHER that dwells IN HIM. Ephesians 4:13 Till we all come in the unity of the FAITH and of the KNOWLEDGE of the Son of God, unto a PERFECT MAN, unto the MEASURE OF THE STATURE of the FULLNESS OF CHRIST. Colossians 2:8-10 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after CHRIST. For IN HIM [Christ] DWELLS ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY. And you are COMPLETE IN HIM, which is the HEAD OF ALL PRINCIPALITY and POWER. Ephesians 1:19 And what is the EXCEEDING GREATNESS OF HIS POWER to us-ward who believe, according to the WORKING OF HIS MIGHTY POWER which HE WROUGHT IN CHRIST, when HE raised Him from the dead and set Him at HIS own right hand in the heavenly places, far above ALL PRINCIPALITY and POWER and MIGHT and DOMINION, and EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED, NOT ONLY IN THIS WORLD, BUT ALSO IN THAT WHICH IS TO COME. 2 Corinthians 5:17-19,21 [17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. [18] And ALL THINGS ARE OF GOD, who hath RECONCILED US TO HIMSELF BY JESUS CHRIST, and hath given to us THE MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION; [19] To wit, that GOD WAS IN CHRIST, RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO HIMSELF, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation. [21] For HE HATH MADE HIM TO BE SIN FOR US, who knew no sin; THAT WE MIGHT BE MADE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN HIM. John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, “Destroy this temple (His BODY) and in three days “I” WILL RAISE IT UP.” Revelation 15:3-4 And they sing the song of Moses the servant of GOD and the song of the LAMB saying, “GREAT and MARVELOUS are YOUR WORKS, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. JUST and TRUE and YOUR WAYS, YOU KING of saints. Who shall not fear YOU, O LORD, and glorify YOUR NAME? For YOU ALONE are HOLY. For all nations shall come and worship before YOU, for YOUR JUDGMENTS are MADE MANIFEST. Revelation 14:1 And I looked, and lo, a LAMB stood on the Mount Zion and with Him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having HIS FATHER’S NAME written in their foreheads. John 5:43 “I AM COME IN MY FATHER’S NAME, and you receive Me not. If another shall come in his own name, him you will receive.” “How can you believe, which receives honor one of another, and not seek the honor that comes from GOD ONLY?” Revelation 14:7 Saying with a loud voice, “Fear GOD and give glory to HIM, for the hour of HIS JUDGMENT is come. And worship HIM that MADE heaven and earth, and the sea and the fountains of water. Revelation 22:13 “I AM ALPHA and OMEGA, the BEGINNING and the END. The FIRST and the LAST.” Revelation 1:8 I AM ALPHA and OMEGA, the BEGINNING and the ENDING,” says the LORD, WHICH IS and WHICH WAS, and WHICH IS TO COME, THE ALMIGHTY. Revelation 21:7 He that overcomes shall inherit all things and I WILL BE HIS GOD, and he shall be MY SON. Ephesians 4:4-7 There is ONE BODY, ONE SPIRIT, even as you are called in ONE HOPE of your calling, ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, WHO is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH all and IN you all. But unto every one of us is GIVEN GRACE according to the MEASURE OF THE GIFT of CHRIST. EPHESIANS 3:14-19 For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord JESUS CHRIST, of Whom the WHOLE FAMILY in HEAVEN AND EARTH is NAMED, that He would grant you, according to the riches of HIS GLORY, to be strengthened with might BY HIS SPIRIT in the inner man; that CHRIST may dwell in your hearts BY FAITH, that you being ROOTED AND GROUNDED in love, may be able to COMPREHEND WITH ALL SAINTS what is THE BREADTH, AND LENGTH, AND DEPTH, AND HEIGHT; and TO KNOW the LOVE OF CHRIST, which PASSES ALL KNOWLEDGE, that you MIGHT BE FILLED WITH ALL THE FULLNESS OF GOD.
Haven't you understood: he is in the Father and the Father is in him? There MUST BE TWO for one to be in the other! Go back to Scripture and jump ahead to conclude as Scripture does: the Father and his Son are two, not one and the same person: 'I will be to him a Father and he shall be to me a Son' Hebrews 1:5.
In the Old Testament covenant commandments there Was Only One God: You shall have no other gods/elohim before ME.', 'I am the LORD your God/Elohim/Gods who have brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage.' Exodus 20:3,2. Even 1st Corinthians 10:4 'the Christ was the Rock which followed them' ? : 'they drank of the spiritual Rock which followed them and that Rock was Christ' 1st Corinthians 10:4. The LORD God was the Elohim [Gods] who brought Israel out of Egypt, not to include the Christ, 1st Corinthians 10:4. 1st Corinthians 2:11b shows the Spirit of God is a man, spirit of man, who is within God's God uncreated material Spirit man body John 8:17-18's teaching, and knows (Greek, knows but not by experience: knows because he 'searches all things yes the deep things of God' 1st Corinthians 2:10 [so isn't God who would know the things of God, knows all things]) . The Holy Spirit of God is separate from God the Father and the Son.
@Asaph Vapor 1st Corinthians 2:11b parallel with 1st Corinthians 2:11a: as the spirit of man is a man within his man and knows (Greek, knows but not by experience; searches all things of his man as does the Spirit of God searches in God 1st Corinthians 2:9-10); even so No Man knows (Greek, knows but not by experience; searches all things yes the deep things of God within his man's body, God's material body, as the spirit of man does within his man's material body 1st Corinthians 2:11a) except the Spirit of God within his man's material body. But it's not only 1st Corinthians 2:11b which shows that God is separate from himself, but even from Genesis 6:3 'my Spirit shall not always strive with man' verily God is not saying himself; Isaiah 48:16 'the LORD God and his Spirit have sent me' showing two so a plural verb, the prophet also writing as they are two. While the God of Israel is Holy Leviticus 11:44, and a Spirit John 4:24 the term/phrase God the Holy Spirit is never shown in use. The Holy Spirit is shown as the Holy Spirit OF GOD, not God the Holy Spirit, John 14:26, whom the Father will send in Jesus' name. Acts chapter 2 verses 17-18 quoting from Joel 'I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh', 1st Corinthians 2:11b more closely shows the definite separation between God and his inner Spirit of man. Maybe that's why Paul said 'Jesus Christ who abolished death has brought immortality and life to light through the gospel' 2nd Timothy 1:10.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 I say this with all due respect, you are not interpreting correctly and your understanding is of deception. In only a few verses I can can show you there is Only ONE GOD, the FATHER. I can give you a ton of Scripture but without being too wordy, these get the message across loud and clear He IS the Holy Spirit and IN the Son. There is Only One Spirit and He is it, and believers have the Spirit of Christ dwelling in them. It's all the SAME, ONE, ONLY GOD. Just One Person! Not three rattling around in the Man. Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD and FATHER OF ALL, WHO IS ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU ALL. Romans 8:9-10 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of HIS. And if CHRIST BE IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness. 1 Timothy 3:16 And without controversy GREAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS. GOD [Ephesians 4:6] was MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Where's the **MYSTERY** if it was the second person of the Godhead?! And since Mary was conceived by The Holy Spirit, shouldn't the third person of the Godhead be his Father? So does Jesus have two Fathers? You make it so complicated and yet it is SO easy to understand GOD is ONLY ONE. He is the Holy Spirit. He is Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent! He Alone. Colossians 1:15 Who is THE IMAGE of the INVISIBLE GOD, the FIRSTBORN of every creature: John 1:18 NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD [Ephesians 4:6] AT ANY TIME; the only BEGOTTEN SON [Son of Man], which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. Isaiah 46:9 Remember the former things of old: for I AM GOD, and THERE IS NONE ELSE; I AM GOD, and there is NONE LIKE ME. Isaiah 44:6 [6]Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD. Isaiah 9:6-7 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. THE ZEAL OF THE LORD OF HOSTS WILL PERFORM THIS. Colossians 1:19 FOR IT PLEASED THE FATHER THAT IN HIM [The Man] SHOULD ALL FULLNESS DWELL; Colossians 2:9 For IN HIM DWELLS ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY. Etc., etc. Don't make it so complicated because it's really just so simple. GOD - Who is Spirit - is the Father, the Son, a Friend, the Creator, the Savior, the Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel, the Rock, the First, the Last, Alpha and Omega, ...... He is ALL IN ALL. Three "persons" = Three "gods" Simple addition. God became the Father when He begat the [Man] Son. He had to be FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN!
@@gleasonparker1684 I can address your question, and a lot MORE, my friend---but not tonight. I am tired, and I've been conducting Scriptural studies, off and on for Most of the day. Thank you for your Comment. I will try to get to you tomorrow. GOD bless.
@@gleasonparker1684 my Lord and The Lord are different. My lord refers to humanity...The Lord refers to God. Jesus that walked the earth was my Lord and in him was The Lord. Psalms 110:1 and Matthew 22:44 The Lord says to my Lord
In order to help me understand oneness, whenever Jesus (the expressed image of God) was on the earth, was he not in heaven? And is the Holy Spirit a description (not a different person) of God
@TheCabin I agreed! Oneness teaches that the word trinity is not in the Bible but it doesn’t matter if the Bible doesn’t mentions the word trinity, the Old Testament doesn’t mentions the word messiah but we call Jesus the messiah. When the Bible mentions that the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit are one, that means they’re the same in essence. They’re one YHWH but three different persons. That is why God is called Elohim. Is wrong to say that God transforms in roles because denies the deity of Christ. If the trinity doesn’t exist, then God’s eternal plan of salvation through his son is destroy. Oneness is a heresy.
Not be argumentative.But that being said the Bible refers to the Lord Jesus 11 times on Him sitting down at the right hand of the throne?If you would please explain how that does not mean the mean God throne?I believe that God is one in three in one.God is three and one and the one in the middle die for me.I would greatly appreciate and look forward to your comment.So if because in doesn't use the word it's not true well I guess you don't believe in the rapture because the word it not in there.
It seems all statements of God's nature must be filtered through Deut 6:4. God makes it crystal clear how he wants us to think about him. Thanks so much!
One saviour is one messiah is one father one SPIRIT. If god was on throne and on earth he had to be omnipresent. Fullness of godhead is not part. Jesus says he will turn things back to father at end. But want Jesus always be GOD?
Its important to remember that Jesus is God manifested in flesh, so when he called God his father or prayed, he was speaking as flesh. In Matthew 26:41 Jesus said "The spirit is indeed willing but the flesh is weak" the body only is called the son of God.
We are save by believing on the name of Jesus . Jesus says he has the same Name as the Father . We Must believe that when He said I AM HE . HE MEANT HE WAS, IS ,AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE FATHER .
Also does it really matter? As long as we all believe in Jesus and his resection. And we repent of our sins and ask him into our heart and live according to the guidelines given in the bible. Everything else should fall by the wayside!
The problem is we can't keep the law without his Spirit, and asking Jesus into our heart doesn't mean we are filled with the Spirit from that moment on. Theology or doctrine is important because what you believe about God determines how you will serve him...it makes a world of difference...this is not small matter since we are talking about the nature of God. We can't compromise truth.
Jesus said in John 4:23 "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
What God is composed of matters, because of the need to identify Him at his coming. I have come to believe that trins tend to not take as much responsibility for their actions when the authority of God is dispersed among their three headed God.
JHWH is "the beginning and the end" in the OT, Jesus ist "the beginning and the end" (besides me there are no other Gods) in the NT. JHWH is the "I AM" in the OT, Jesus is the "I AM" in the NT. Is Jesus a blasphemer or a liar? JHWH is the "Word" in the OT, Jesus ist the "Word" in the NT. And the word was God (John 1:1). Jesus was accused of making himself godlike by the Jews, he didn't refute. Jesus is called God by Thomas, he didn't refute. God rose Jesus from the dead. In John 2 Jesus claims that he will raise himself from the dead. In my opionion, either the Bible contradicts itself, what I refuse to believe, Jesus is a blasphemer or a liar, what I refuse to believe or he is the one true God JHWH. This I accept. Blessings to all of you.
Begin at the beginning:'from everlasting' there are two Gods the God of Israel Psalm 90:2 and the Messiah Jesus Christ Micah 5:2. Because the two are 'from everlasting' each is 'I AM', Jehovah/Yahweh/LORD, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last before them there was no God formed neither shall there be after them Isaiah 43:10 applies to both of them who are 'from everlasting'.
I think God does look on the heart even though there are guidelines to follow that's why I was baptized on April 12th 1970. I had been born again in the summer of 1967. And it is taken until now to begin to understand the Oneness Doctrine which I now believe is the true statement of purpose in what God is trying to do on Earth today ..comes as a great relief.
Its visible in scripture that there is oneness. Thanks for teaching this. You are the first guy that I hear that teach how I view the scripture. Its amazing how quick trinatarians are to brand other believers as heretics that believe the ALMIGHTY FATHER SON AND SPIRIT is ONE. I read the book of JOB and saw how many times he referred to the ALMIGHTY as EL or ELOAH which is singular. In JOB 38 the ALMIGHTY replies back and the question in now who was it? The FATHER or the SON. It was YHVH (I am) who answered him. In Zechariah 14 YHVH (I am) says he will return (second coming) to the mount of Olives. Who promised in the new testament HE will return to the mount of Olives. The SON said HE will return so the SON is YHVH from the old testament and HE IS THE ALMIGHTY!! FATHER, SON, SPIRIT are titles but the ALMIGHTY had just one NAME and variations of that ONE name.
When the Bible mentions that the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit are one, that means they’re the same in essence. They’re one YHWH but three different persons. That is why God is called Elohim. Is wrong to say that God transforms in roles because denies the deity of Christ. If the trinity doesn’t exist, then God’s eternal plan of salvation through his son is destroy. Oneness is a heresy.
The Bible doesn't call God a "they"...three persons but one essence is also not found in scripture....three persons who share the same being or essence still equals three and not one...you can't say you believe in one God and say the three persons are all God...it's a contradiction. God bless.
I think the issue is man's inability to comprehend God. We want black and white conclusive answers, but for whatever reason, the bible doesn't always offer that. When we can't reconcile the apparent inconsistencies of the bible, we often just pick a side and disregard evidence for other perspectives in order to have closure. The bible says God is one, and that Jesus and God are one, but it also testifies of some uniqueness within the roles of God, but the roles are all still fulfilled by the same one God. It's hard to wrap our minds around it. It's like being told that an apple is an orange but also still an apple. But regardless of our ability to comprehend that contradiction, if it were true, it would be true nonetheless. Let me flesh this out a bit, please bear with me... Our imperfection and sin make it impossible for us to commune with God because unholiness cannot dwell with holiness (Psalm 5:4), so if we want to commune with God, then we must be holy. But the wages of sin is death and we have a sin debt against us, so if we don't pay that, who will? God demands a sacrifice without blemish, but there is none good except the Father (Psalm 53, Mat 19:17), so God has no candidate for that sacrifice other than Himself. Alright, here we go... So God, who is perfect, left heaven while also remaining in heaven (and also everywhere), to go to Earth and become sin (2 Cor 5:21), while still remaining holy, and then poured out His own judgement onto Himself, killing Himself in the process, only to then raise Himself to life again. Then, He left Earth to go back to heaven to be with Himself, where He already was, and sit at the right hand of Himself. It was better that He left earth, because if He had stayed, then He wouldn't have sent Himself to be here with us as a comforter and advocate (John 14:26, 16:7). And now, if you believe in Him, then you can be saved from His judgement because He already paid the debt you owed to Him (1 Pet 2:24). Whew! That's chaos. But it's also true. (Hopefully my account, while overly rigid, is still biblically accurate...) The above is difficult to understand when it is expressed as being carried out by a single entity, and leaves out a lot of complexity that takes place in various stages. But if you characterize every action as being carried out by a different entity, then you obscure the fact that the whole concept and execution of the plan for redemption was carried out by the one holy God. The video here makes a good point to state that God's omniscience can easily be blurred into assuming multiple God personalities. Where is the line? If the bible doesn't make that line crystal clear, then who are we to try to extrapolate a crisp conclusion? My point is this: Elements of God's expansive character will be misrepresented, diluted, or lost if they are oversimplified or overcomplicated. The desire for closure on a topic does not permit the dismissal or minimizing of some passages in favor of others in order to make a concept more digestible. The bible's a tough document. But we can either let that create factions and divisions, or we can use it to drive us deeper into the bible, not to prove to one another who is the most learned, but to show ourselves approved unto God, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15). Some arguments are a waste of time because they are plainly explained in scripture. But I think the bigness of God makes it so that the answer so some questions is often not all that simple. If an age-old argument has still not been put to rest, then it seems likely that the answer contains elements of both sides, and it will never comfortably fit into one side or the other. "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." (Proverbs 25:2) Praise the Lord for this, because it has driven me to be hungrier for the Word and to seek it out like never before. Still a long way to go though! Thanks, Pastor Waldron, for your studiousness and your willingness to share on this platform.
Thats too confusing. Here let me simplify it for you: 1=1, 1=2, 1=3, 3=1, 2=1, ...There. Do you Understand now?. Lol😂👍People. God is MYSTERY. to us humans. We will NOT understand this mystery of Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Amen Pastor!!! Thankful for a POWERFUL teaching!!! Not sure why Trinitarians ignore so much scripture in the Old Testament. Gal 3:24 says the Old Testament is a school master that leads us th Christ. Det 4:35,39, 6:4, 32:39. ISH 43:10-11, 44:8,24 , 45:5-6 , I could literally go on and on with scripture from the Old Testament. Another thing... Col 1:15 - Invisible image of God? 1 Tim 3:16 - God was manifest in the flesh? I used to be Trinitarian as well but God opened up my eyes and my heart through revelation from scripture. There is so much scripture towards a One God Diety by a landslide. Blessed for this video! Praying for you pastor!
I'm Oneness and I'm still getting new revelation about the Oneness as I speak... it's really been an eye opener for me...to know that God the Father came in human flesh to show us the way the truth and the life..."And this life is in his Son." God bless
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit) Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. (Acts 10:38) The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church? The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again) Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, (A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.) Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. (See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment) ============ Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says? What did Peter say below? Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning. Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water/ every time they read the word "baptize" in the text. Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage? Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called, Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love; Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace. Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13) “baptize” KJV Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.) Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire: Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost. 1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5) Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant) How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist? Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ? Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant (ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation. (Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation. (GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things. (KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357 (NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation. (NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established. (YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them .
@@jeffreyandrewwinters3719 My friend, history reveals, it was the ancient, Roman Catholic religion that started this doctrine; They, in turn, borrowed from Greek mythology.
Well here's where I think you're wrong pastor on your second statement you said that God the Father, while maintaining his throne in heaven was also Jesus Christ the son. You're not understanding the Trinity doctrine, God the father is not God the son, as you can clearly see in scripture Jesus prays to God the Father, but you said that God the father was Jesus as well that's false. Jesus is distinct from God the Father he prays to God the Father, however God himself is Father Son and Holy Spirit, he's all three of them but yet even though they are distinct from one another they are all three of the one God. Jesus says I and the father one he's not saying saying that he is the father of the father is him, he saying that I and the father are one meaning we are one in nature and essence, what that means is that God is an eternal spirit we can see this clearly in John 4:24, and Jesus is saying he shares the same nature and essence as God the Father which is an eternal spirit. Scripture says unanimously that God is unchanging this is what essence and nature means a the unchanging and unchangeable nature of something which is necessary to its being. So what I'm saying is just because God took on human flesh it does not change who he is, just because he is the son does not mean since the son is distinct from the father does not mean that Jesus Christ himself is not God. So let's see if I drew a circle okay if I drew a circle, like on one side of a paper does the circle change no what is it? still a circle, location is an accidental trait of a circle, but was the circle still a circle yes. That's exactly how the three persons of the Trinity are just because God is an eternal spirit, his nature in essence don't change because he is these three persons even though they are all three distinct from one another he does not change.
The finite trying to comprehend the infinite. God(Father) spoke from essence of his being (Holy Spirit) a Word(Jesus) to become flesh to the effect that God would save mankind according to His oath(spoken promise)
God has given his personal word Matthew 4:4, 2nd Timothy 3:16. God wants us to communicate with him with sincerity and truth. So, Given his word written and his judging man by his written word it makes sense to avail ourselves of it to be aware of his truths by which he judges man, male and female. The more you know the more you can know to not be deceived or used. One God Psalm 90:2 [the LORD who appointed himself Father to Jesus, his appointed Son Hebrews1:5, John 8:54] saved Israel out of Egypt Exodus 13:21, 20:2-3 and the other Micah 5:2 (Jesus) saves man from the judgment of sin Matthew1:21, 25.
“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.” - Isaiah 12:2 (KJV) “And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.” - Isaiah 25:9 (KJV) Isaiah 43 (KJV) ¹⁰ Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me. ¹¹ I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour. Isaiah 45 (KJV) ⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me: ⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. Isaiah 45 (KJV) ²¹ Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. ²² Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.” - Isaiah 54:5 (KJV) "And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.” - Isaiah 59:16 (KJV) “Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.” - Isaiah 60:16 (KJV) “Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.” - Hosea 13:4 (KJV) Psalms 22 (KJV) ¹⁶ For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. ¹⁷ I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. ¹⁸ They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. “And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.” - Zechariah 11:12 (KJV) “And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.” - Zechariah 12:10 (KJV) “But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.” - Micah 5:2 (KJV) “For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.” - Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) "Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.” - Matthew 1:23 (KJV) “And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.” - Luke 1:47 (KJV) “Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,” - Luke 1:68 (KJV) Little fun fact. Look up what the Hebrew word is that's used for "salvation" in Isaiah 12:2
@TimBo Besides, the Trinity teaching has to be found in Jesus' earthly mortal gospel accounts, as Galatians 3:15 established, 'though it be but a man's covenant if it be confirmed no man disannuls or adds to it'. Since ONLY MENTION OF THE THREE - Father, Son, Spirit - is in the gospels and Not the Three are one God, neither can it be true after Jesus' earthly mortal body death.
@TimBo if, about the Trinity teaching, the teaching is not found in Jesus' Old Testament gospel accounts 'if it be but a man's covenant if it is confirmed no man disannuls or adds to it' Galatians 3:15 that teaching is not from Scripture. Don't be afraid of them.
Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
In Bible , you will never see the term Trinity at all , if you want you can check the old testament and new testament .......we can find that there is one lord in deuteronamy .....
You on point. I remember when I first got saved. I sought the thru fasting and prayer for the understanding of trinity vs oneness. And finally after seeking God he opened my eyes to show me that its only 1 not 3 but only 1. Jesus is all .....
It boils down to whether we believe the Bible or a doctrine of man that is just a little over 100 years old. The Bible says in Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He would lie, nor a son of man, that He would change His mind; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? 1 Samuel 15:29 Also the Glory of Israel will not lie nor change His mind; for He is not a man, that He would change His mind.” James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning. God the Father according to the Bible would never lie or change His mind and most importantly He is not a man or a son of man. Jesus however is 100% Man and 100% God. The expression Son of Man is used 81 times in the Bible, and it never referred to God the Father only to Jesus. Peter when he answered who Jesus was replied you are the Son of the Living God, the Messiah, the Anointed One. Jesus confirmed his answer by saying flesh and blood did not reveal this to you by My Father in Heaven. If Jesus can be 100% God and Man as the Bible teaches God can be One God and 3 persons. Every word is established by two or three witnesses. God is revealed in 3 persons, God revealed it, the Son revealed it, and the Holy Spirit revealed it.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa do you have proof of this? It doesn't bother me that the word trinity is not in the bible, neither is the word rapture but that day is upon us. God is Holy Holy Holy yet Jesus became our sin on the cross, He cried out to His Father why have you forsaken me. For the first time in eternity the Son was separated from the Father, not from Himself. You have to add a whole lot to the text in order for people to understand your doctrine, but the Bible is not that hard to understand. If God is not in three persons, it would be impossible for God and the Holy Spirit to separate Himself from the Son but that's clearly what the Bible says. I can never agree with this Oneness doctrine. I believe your sincerely wrong friend.
Meaning of God is One clearly explained in simple terms…. What does it mean when god says that he is one? Does it mean one person? Not necessarily, in all of scripture (old and new testament) god doesn’t describe himself as one person. One can mean many things. For example, the United States of America, there is only one America but it consists of multiple states. Another example is the word Family. Family is singular, but by definition it means 2 or more persons. So when the word family is used, it always implies 2 or more persons. The word god used in the Old Testament is the word ‘Elohim’, which is understood as a singular sense, but by definition it’s plurality in one. We should allow god to define what one god means. God clearly reveals himself as One god (Elohim), which consists of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit, and that there is no other god besides this god which he has revealed. Just as when you say there is only one family (multiple persons) living on that street, when god says he is one god (Elohim), by definition it’s plurality in one, and as he has clearly revealed the plurality within the one is the father, son, and Holy Spirit, Or in the Old Testament as Lord, another lord or angel of the lord, and spirit of the lord/god. When we hear the word one applied to god we mistakenly assume one person, when this is not how god defines himself in the Bible. Plus on top of that, the word one used in Deuteronomy 6:4 is the word ‘Echad’ which can mean compound unity. Echad is the same word used in genesis 2:24, a man and his wife shall become one (Echad) flesh. 2 become one. The father, son, and holy spirit are in perfect eternal unity. Read the below statement again in light of the Hebrew words used and in light of all of god’s revelation of himself in scripture, and who god is should be crystal clear…. Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God (Elohim - plurality in one), the Lord is one (Echad - compound unity)!”
God, in almost every instance describes or is described as One Person. A He not a they. Don’t get lost in the trees. Don’t overthink things. He is described as One several thousands of times, plural terms less than 10, most say less than 5. The less is always subject to the greater. Your entire post is filled with falsehoods which I have debunked constantly on the channel. I normally delete lengthy posts, see description box, but not here. And I never debate in the comment section.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa He and I simply refers to the one god. The father is the same god yahweh, the son is the same god yahweh, and the Holy Spirit is the same god yahweh. He and I is what we would expect. Your argument about he vs they would work if god described himself as 3 gods or 3 beings, but that is not what we believe. Like I previously stated, we should let the Bible reveal who god is. If you cannot logically grasp the complexity of god, don’t read into the Bible. You still cannot prove that god is one person. Sorry, but He and I doesn’t prove it.
Pastor, how do you reconcile Genesis 1 where the Lord says, “let us make man in our image”? Does this not speak to the truth of God being a communion of persons? And what about John 14, when Jesus says “I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever”? If Christ were the Father, why would he need to ask the Father to send the Holy Ghost? And what about 1 John 5:7 (which I don’t believe belongs there, but you, since you use the KJV, do)?
I’ve done a video with 9 different explanations, and did one recently with what I think. And I’ve done an online Bible Commentary on Genesis as well. And I don’t have time to get links, I wish I did. God bless!
David Figueroa read Gen 1:27 scripture reconciles it’s self. Read 1 John 5:7 in the RSV. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS [16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Roman church prays trinity you got to question it . 3 Gods if you believe the father is not the son the son is not the holy spirit they are three Gods separate but a family. Why is the trinity symbols used in witch craft. Many times the Bible mentioned repent and be baptized in the name of the lord Jesus Christ. Look up verses about baptism I believe it only says baptize in the name of the father son and Holy Ghost once who is the name is it Jesus?
@@jeffreyandrewwinters3719 three separate people is 3 different people . God is all one oneness is not 3 gods . Trinity is not biblical church's . They are all 3 one god .
@@amberwalters9613 No offense but I think you misunderstand, The Trinity is One God in 3 seperate persons who exist simultaneously, see my other comments
If you want to know the mystery of the Godhead, this is what the Lord have revealed to me in the scriptures. Far too long people have not understand the God we serve, so this is the message to open up your eyes. He that hath an ear, let him hear! Mark 12:28-32 KJV 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: Isaiah 35:4-6 KJV 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. Luke 2:11 KJV For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. WE ONLY HAVE ONE SAVIOUR AND ONE LORD AND JESUS CHRIST IS HE. Matthew 11:2-6 KJV 2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Isaiah 45:21-23 KJV 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord ? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. ref. John 1:1-2, 14, John 8:42, ref. Isaiah 55:11 KJV Philippians 2:10-11 KJV 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. John 1:1-2, 14 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:8-9 KJV 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Psalms 62:7 KJV In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God. Hosea 13:4, 9 KJV 4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me. 5 O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help. 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 2 John 1:3, 7 KJV 3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 1 John 5:1 1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. With that said, Jesus Christ is our Lord but he is subject to the Father, for the head of Christ is God. The spirit which is Christ manifested itself in the flesh, so the man was not God, but the Spirit in him, that was our Lord and our God. We do not have two God, only one. When we say Jesus Christ is Lord, that is to the glory of the Father, for he was the one occupying that body...It is a mystery. Not every one will get it. Colossians 1:19 KJV For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; Matthew 28:19 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: That was all God. He is the Father who created all things things. God was manifest in flesh, working in a body bearing the title Son, and when he was glorified, bear the title Holy Ghost. That is all God. God sent the Son which was his own Word behold as of the only begotten of the Father. For Jesus said, John 7:29 KJV But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me. John 8:42 KJV Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Isaiah 55:11 KJV So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. ref. Isaiah 45:22-23 JESUS WAS THAT WORD! By honouring the Son even as we honour the Father according to John 5:23 is not a sin because you're giving glory and honour to the one he proceeded forth and came from. The Father never died, the flesh died, which was and is the Son of God. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And remember, the preaching of the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:36 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: THE SECOND MAN IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN. Ephesians 4:5-6 KJV 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. This is a message for the people of God, Jesus Christ is God, again, I say Jesus Christ is God. Look to him and be ye saved. And as concerning you, Trinitarians, the Trinity is a lie, your doctrine is a myth! This is a true saying, there is one God and none other but he! Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. Isaiah 44:24 KJV Thus saith the Lord , thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
The Trinity is a lie! You may have a controversy with what I just stated, But be ye angry and sin not. Read all that I have said, afterward, it is your right to agree, or to disagree. Nevertheless, I pray that God may open up your understanding and reveal the truth of his Son in you. 1 John 5:7-10 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one. If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son. He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son. ...................................................................................................... Now, get wisdom and understanding. The Father bears record in heaven of his Son which is the Word, and the Word bears record because it proceeded out of the mouth of God and was made flesh here on earth testifying of his Father. The Holy Ghost bear record in heaven becasue it was prophecied by the Word which came out from the mouth of the Father which is in heaven and said that he will pour out his Spirit upon all flesh in Joel 2:28 & Acts 2:16. The Word which was made flesh is beheld as of the only begotten of the Father according to John 1:14. He is not a second person in the Godhead because he came forth from the one God. Now I'm not a modalist, neither do I believe that Jesus is the Father, but that he is the Son of the Father and he is seated at the right hand of power according to 2 John 1:3 and Luke 22:69 Moreover, The Spirit, the water, and the blood bear witness here on earth because John saw the Spirt of God descending upon Jesus Christ in the bodily shape of a dove, Saying, this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased. That was the Father declaring and bearing witness to his Son Jesus Christ which is, and which was, and is to come, the Almighty according to Revelation 1:8 Do you get me? This is a mystery, and I pray that God opens your understanding and knowledge of the scripture that ye err not therein. Moreover, brethren, according to John 4:24 God is a Spirit and He was, and is, that same Spirit that bear witness on earth. Now the blood and water bears witness also, for when that Jesus was pierced in his side forthwith there came out blood and water according to John 19:34, fulfilling the word of God spoken of the prophets, saying, the Messiah, which is Christ, would come, to carry out the will of his Father declaring the word of truth, becoming a light unto the Jews and Gentiles; the salvation for his people and a stumbling block and a rock of offense to others. Afterward, it behoved Christ to suffer being crucified, he die, was buried, and resurrected from the dead by the power of his Father according to Luke 24:46 This is a true saying, brethren, there is no knowledge of God nor truth in the land. Many false prophets and antichrists have gone into the world polluting the gospel. (For it is the power of God unto salvation, and the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ according to Romans 1:16 and Luke 24:46) But thanks be to God, upon this rock, even the foundation, is the Lord's body, which is the church, established. Be not deceived nor be carried away by every wind of doctrine for many have succumbed to falsehood and idolatry. Moreover, the world is plagued by many false prophets plagued with seducing spirits, deceiving others and being deceived themselves. As it is written, For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and Lords many,) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. 1 Corinthians 8:5-7 And again, I say, there is but one God and none other but he according. to Mark 12:28-32 And remember honoring the Son even as you honour the Father aligns with scripture according to John 5:23 And remember, again, I say, the Word proceeded forth out of the mouth of God and was made Flesh by his power according to John 1:14 That's why Jesus was one with the Father even before the world was. Not that he was a separate and distinct person from the Father, but he was one, sigular, with the Father from the begining, even before the world was established according to John 1:1-4, 10-14; John 16:26-28; John 17:5-8 Jesus is the Word that was made flesh. God sent the Word, which is his Son, which came out from him, into the world that we might live through him for this life is in his Son according to 1 John 4:9, 1 John 5:11, John 3:16-17 To get wisdom and understanding of the Word, refer to Isaiah 45:22-23 Philippians 2:8-11 Acts 10:36-44 And when you believe, according as it is written, then shall the Holy Ghost, which is the power and spirit of God endued on high shall rain upon you. Amen. Again, I say unto you, not once, yea, twice, that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God and he is not a second person in the Godhead. Jesus is the Word of God manifested in the flesh, which came forth from God and has gone back to the Father according John 16:28. He was made flesh and God was working through him according to 2 Corinthians 5:19 Brethren, be not confounded to the spirit of error, But be of good cheer, and not having a mere zeal of God only, but being clothed in the garments of righteousness, knowledge, and understanding of God, abiding in his word and having an ear to hear the declaration of his word. Verily, verily, I say unto you, it is in a man's nature to fight against that which he hath no understanding. But truly I say unto you that the Spirit is He whom teacheth, and guide a sincere heart into all truth. Blessed is he whom God the Father hath revealed the Spirit of truth, even his Son, by whom also he made the worlds: for he is the brightness of his glory, the express image of his person, declared to be the Son of God with power and the image of the invisible God. Peace be unto you. God bless you and glory be unto the Lord God Almighty who abideth for ever. Amen.
@@unwmk God was manifested in the flesh' doesn't mean God came 'in the flesh' as though the Father came in the flesh, but 'God was made known >manifested > in the flesh' 1st Timothy 3:16. Jesus did this: he did what he saw the Father doing John 5:19, taught what the Father taught him John 8:28, said what the Father commanded him to say John 12:49, said and spoke what he heard the Father speak John 12:50, the words he spoke were the Father's words John 14:9-10: the express (exact) image of his person Hebrews 1:3, the image of the invisible God Colossians 1:15, he who have seen him have seen the Father John 14:9.
So what do u do when u run into John 1:1-18? Also Hebrews 1:1-10, Colossians 1:15-16? What about Matthew 28:19? Matthew 3:16-17? John 14:23 where Jesus says anyone who keeps my word the Father will love him and WE will come to him and make OUR home with him?
I am body, soul, and spirit...3 in 1 and 1 in 3...and I was made in the image of God. Do you believe you have the ability to be 3 in 1 and 1 in 3...but God doesn't??? God says that a man and woman will come together and become one. Paul says we are all one in the body of Christ. Its all through bible...many different times God has expressed that his desire is for many to be one in mind and purpose...that is the very nature of his own being. I'm sorry you cant understand that. John 17:20-21 King James Version (KJV) 20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. Does Jesus prayer in John 17 sound like he's talking to himself to you??? How do you "rational lies" it???
But you are misrepresenting the use of "ONE" in these verses. I am "One" with my wife, but it has nothing to DO with NUMERICAL VALUE. I am "One" with GOD'S word, but it has nothing to DO with a MULTIPLICITY ...of "Persons." Someone could ( Philosophically) say, "I'm ONE WITH THE UNIVERSE," but it has ZERO to DO with some NUMERICAL VALUE of. "PERSONS." Besides, Jesus is simply proclaiming his LOVE and OBEDIENCE to his FATHER. And by the way-- Jesus refers to GOD as not ONLY his FATHER, but--HIS GOD. Read Matt. 28:18, which totally CONTRADICTS vs. 19. Verse 19 is a CORRUPTED verse that was Altered from its ORIGINAL wording. If you STUDY this, you will NOT find that formula ANYwhere ELSE in scripture. Every ELSE the Apostles say to pray "IN THE NAME OF JESUS," or, "...IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.: Any HONEST theologian will TELL you that Matt.28:19, along with 1 John 5:7 were "Tampered" with. The Original scripture reads DIFFERENTLY, and has NOTHING to DO with a " Trinity." Why did Christ CONTINUALLY SAY things like, "I can do NOTHING on My Own," and, "I only do the WORK my Father GIVES me," and, "I only speak the Words my FATHER Gives me," and, "I do the WILL of my FATHER," and, "The FATHER is GREATER than I..." I repeat--"...the FATHER is GREATER than I." Read John 5:19, 30. Jesus himSELF proclaims that he can do NOTHING by himSELF. Mark 10:18 says, "Why do you call ME good--only the FATHER is good. (Paraphrased). Read verse 27. Read Mark 10:40. Read verse 45. Check out Mark 11:22. Christ told Peter to "have Faith in GOD (the FATHER). He didn't point to himSELF. John 17: 20, 22, 23b. Does GOD "Pray: to HIMSELF? John 18:11. Who "Gave" WHO, "The CUP to DRINK?" Acts 1:7. Who "...Set the TIMES and DATES...?" According to John 17:3, WHO is the "ONE TRUE GOD?" Look at vs. Four: Who gave WHO the "Work to do..?" Also, Vs.'s 6--10. Read Phil.2:6--11. Let's read it CAREfully: Verse 6 CLEARLY STATES Christ, in fact, did NOT "Consider EQUALITY with GOD something TO BE GRASPED." And the word "NATURE," here simply refers to the Spirit of GOD dwelling WITHIN Jesus (Read Acts 10: 38,40, 42). Verse 8 CLEARLY declares Jesus as a man who, "...became OBEDIENT unto DEATH." Check out Vs. 9. Who Exalted WHO? And Vs. 11 CAPS it all OFF. "To the GLORY of...WHO? Phil.3:21. Whose "POWER ENABLES" Christ? Col.1:3 totally EXPLAINS Col. 2:9. And Col.2: 9 is explained by Acts 10:38. I could go on and on-- but ASK yourself; just What/Who ARE these "3 Persons?" Just how many Holy Spirits do you BELIEVE in? Is EACH Person HOLY? Is EACH Person Eternal? Is EACH Person ALL KNOWING? Is EACH Person SPIRIT? QUESTION: How many ALMIGHTY, ETERNAL "Persons" do you BELIEVE in? There IS but ONE GOD-- therefore-- there can BE only ONE Literal HOLY SPIRIT. Do you DENY--or AFFIRM? My friend, this ENTIRE doctrine was FOISTED upon the World 2-3 hundred years AFTER the LAST word of Revelations was penned. And it BEGAN with PHILO, who was nothing more than a PHILOSOPHER. Then, down the road, an ancient denomination we know as, the Roman Catholic church, began to emerge. THAT is where we see ALL THOSE trinitarian TERMS and termonologies begin to surfice. Not a SINGLE Apostle or Disciple in the New Testiment is recorded as EVER using those MAN-created terms. And keep in mind--this ENTIRE doctrine was FORMULATED over the passing of SEVERAL CENTURIES, which, by the WAY-- just happens to be...the DARK-AGES!! Things to THINK about, my friend.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 the Trinity teaching may be false but the truth is there are two Gods, sitting beside each other the God who brought Israel out of Egypt Exodus 13:21, 20:2-3, with the God who saved Israel and all believers, from their sins Matthew 1:21 by his crucified flesh Hebrews 10:19-20.
Shawn Stephens Man was not created body, soul, spirit but as man formed of dust, man only became a soul after God [God/Elohim/Gods] breathed into man's body the breath of life and later forms the spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d with Zechariah 12:1. But God is a man before any created thing, John 8:17-18's teaching the Father (God John 8:54 and Spirit John 4:24) is a man according to the law of Jesus' listeners.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 If you choose to believe in TWO Gods, that's between you and HIM, but honestly, I really think you should EXAMINE the Scriptures a bit CLOSER. Ask yourself, why---if Christ is (literally) GOD, did he have to be GIVEN, "ALL POWER and AUTHORITY," by his FATHER? And WHY, in John 20:17, does Jesus CLEARLY refer to GOD, as not only his "FATHER," but...his "GOD!" WHY? And why IS it that Christ doesn't even know the "Time of his OWN return," but GOD the FATHER DOES? How do you ACCOUNT for all that? And why did Jesus CONTINUOUSLY say things like, "I only speak the words my FATHER gives me.: How does THAT define Christ as GOD, my friend?
If we are made in the image and likeness of Almighty God, WE ARE NIT 3 persons? We are created in his image and likeness. Yhvh = Jesus Christ ( Yeshua Messiah ) .
@@josephjones4207, I respectfully and lovingly disagree with the pastor of New Life Of Albany Ga.because 2 Cor. 4:5-8 doesn’t nullify the Trinity; rather, it enhances the Trinity doctrine of One God eternally existing as Three distinct Persons. The emphasis in those verses mainly focused on two individuals in the Godhead: God the Father, and God the Son Jesus Christ. "5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;" It seems rather clear that “. . .the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ” is merely confirming that Jesus is reflecting the Father’s will: to give knowledge of Jesus's saving power as the Light. And that Light will shine in believers’ hearts-the light of the glorious gospel of salvation that will dispel the darkness of sin. This in no way disavows the Trinity doctrine (One God eternally existing in Three Persons). Rather, it shows that Jesus is the Son of God, the second Person in the Godhead doing the will of God the Father (Jehovah).
To be one, you have ti be the same, twins are not one although they may do everything the same, you are only one if you are exactly,pin point the same. Jesus is the same as the Father for he us the Father which is a spirit. Jesus is a spirit, and he talked to abraham, he was before abraham ever existed (JOHN 8:57)
Should have begun from John 1:1's definition of God in the beginning: the Word was God was made flesh as Jesus, not a true God John 17:3; the God who was with the Word 'the Word was with - at: nearby, alongside; to: looking toward, going toward - the God' became the God of Israel, who replaced himself over mankind with Jesus in that area of responsibility ONLY.
I’m trinitarian Pentecostal. I think it so sad that the Pentecostal denomination is split over the doctrine. Think about if the oneness and trinitarian Pentecostals came together. Think about the UPC and Assemblies of God USA alone. We both believe in the baptism of the Holy Ghost. The difference is we reject the denial of the Trinity. We also do not baptize in Jesus Name. Matthew 28:19. It is the authority of Jesus that baptizes us not a formula. Also, tongues is not a requirement to be saved. This oneness doctrine was started by one man who had a revelation and spread to other pastors in the Pentecostal denomination which resulted in over a 100 pastors breaking away from the Assemblies of God.
New Life Of Albany Ga. modalism started in the 3rd century but was denounced and the trinity defended by Tertullian, Origen, and Dionysius. It lead to the development of creeds like Athanasian. What I am referring to is the history of the Pentecostal movement and why there was a split.
Curtis Bracy the Oneness and Trinitarian doctrine of the Godhead are two different doctrines within the Pentecostal denomination that caused an early split.
@@curtisbracy6406 any belief system separate from another is a denomination, full belief of those followers following the Bible teaching as they understand it. I believe in two Gods, both from everlasting Micah 5:2, Psalm 90:2, both from the beginning John1:1 the Word and the God - during Jesus' earthly mortal life the Word was made flesh as Jesus and was not a true God, only the Father was John 17:3, but after Jesus' earthly mortal body death and resurrection to heaven begotten of God Acts13:33 Jesus was anointed Hebrews 1:9 as God Hebrews 1:8 over mankind John 5:22,27 in heaven and in earth Matthew 28:18 without the Father's judgment over him John 5:22, Ephesians 1:22-23, 1st Corinthians 15:28. The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead, for what God would need to search all things yes the deep things of God 1st Corinthians 2:9-10 wouldn't God who knows all things not need to search the deep things of God (the Father)? But wouldn't the Holy Spirit know the deep things of God if the Holy Spirit of God is God the Holy Spirit?? The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead!!!!.....
@@remnantime3672 what's your belief? I agree there are two Gods in the beginning but the Word was God was made flesh as Jesus, became not a true [in his God uncreated material Spirit man body John 8:17-18's teaching] God John 17:3, but after his death and resurrection to heaven begotten of God Acts13:33 by God placing upon him an incorruptible and immortal body upon his mortal material body (without blood, 1st Corinthians 15:50) Luke 24:39, 2nd Corinthians 5:2,4, was anointed above his fellows Hebrews 1:9 as God on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hebrews 1:8, 1:3: John 5:22, Matthew 28:18. The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead for the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God 1st Corinthians 2:9-10 ; what God who knows all things would need to search all things especially the deep things of God? The Holy Spirit (of God) is not God nor part of the Godhead.
@@yvettediaztv l don't know if you have had an answer. I, for one, believe in two Gods as the New Testament one God John 16:3, 1st Corinthians 8:6 the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, the Father the only true God John 17:3 , and the Lord Jesus Christ who was anointed after his death and resurrection to heaven as God, sitting on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hebrews 1:3, 8. The Holy Spirit (of God) is not God nor part of the Godhead, for what God, who knows all things, search the deep things of God to know them because he knows (Greek, knows but not by experience; but by searching all things yes the deep things of God 1st Corinthians 2:11b, 2:9-10) but not intrinsically the deep things of God. So, the Holy Spirit (of God) is not God nor part of the Godhead, except as God's spirit of man within him, called the Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11.
Some SAY JESUS IS BODY . FATHER IS SOUL. AND HOLY SPIRIT IS SPIRIT..BUT ONENESS MAKES MORE SENSE. I HAVE READ BERNARD'S BOOK. CAN YOU RECOMMEND ANOTHER? K ,.
To those honestly seeking truth.Oneness and Trinitarian came from the same stock both believe the same thing however they simply describe their understanding differently. If we as believers are to be built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets (Acts 4:12) may I challenge you kindly to look at the book that records the actions of the Apostles ? The facts are in Acts the Book of Acts. If you study it out carefully with an open mind you will discover that the Apostles never one time preached that Jesus was God. Acts 2:22 starts it off 😊
@@josephjones4207 - brother there is a Trinity, here watch this video when you have time. It's title: Clarifying the Trinity/Godhead. it's very well made and explain using only Scriptures, to prove the doctrine of the Trinity, One God, yet 3 distinct Persons. God bless and here's the link: ruclips.net/video/8CmntcV1V2E/видео.html
@@higiniomorales459 If you want to know the mystery of the Godhead, this is what the Lord have revealed to me in the scriptures. Far too long people have not understand the God we serve, so this is the message to open up your eyes. He that hath an ear, let him hear! Mark 12:28-32 KJV 28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? 29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: 30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. 31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these. 32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he: Isaiah 35:4-6 KJV 4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you. 5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped. 6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert. Luke 2:11 KJV For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord. WE ONLY HAVE ONE SAVIOUR AND ONE LORD AND JESUS CHRIST IS HE. Matthew 11:2-6 KJV 2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples, 3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another? 4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see: 5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me. Isaiah 45:21-23 KJV 21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord ? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. 22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. 23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. ref. John 1:1-2, 14, John 8:42, ref. Isaiah 55:11 KJV Philippians 2:10-11 KJV 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. John 1:1-2, 14 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV 16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Colossians 2:8-9 KJV 8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Psalms 62:7 KJV In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God. Hosea 13:4, 9 KJV 4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me. 5 O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help. 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 KJV 1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea; 2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat; 4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ. 2 John 1:3, 7 KJV 3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love. 7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist. 1 John 5:1 1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. 1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV 3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God. With that said, Jesus Christ is our Lord but he is subject to the Father, for the head of Christ is God. The spirit which is Christ manifested itself in the flesh, so the man was not God, but the Spirit in him, that was our Lord and our God. We do not have two God, only one. When we say Jesus Christ is Lord, that is to the glory of the Father, for he was the one occupying that body...It is a mystery. Not every one will get it. Colossians 1:19 KJV For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell; Matthew 28:19 KJV Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: That was all God. He is the Father who created all things things. God was manifest in flesh, working in a body bearing the title Son, and when he was glorified, bear the title Holy Ghost. That is all God. God sent the Son which was his own Word behold as of the only begotten of the Father. For Jesus said, John 7:29 KJV But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me. John 8:42 KJV Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Isaiah 55:11 KJV So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. ref. Isaiah 45:22-23 JESUS WAS THAT WORD! By honouring the Son even as we honour the Father according to John 5:23 is not a sin because you're giving glory and honour to the one he proceeded forth and came from. The Father never died, the flesh died, which was and is the Son of God. John 3:16 KJV For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And remember, the preaching of the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ. Acts 2:36 36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV 45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit. 46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual. 47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: THE SECOND MAN IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN. Ephesians 4:5-6 KJV 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. This is a message for the people of God, Jesus Christ is God, again, I say Jesus Christ is God. Look to him and be ye saved. And as concerning you, Trinitarians, the Trinity is a lie, you doctrine is a myth! This is a true saying, there is one God and none other but he! Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand. Isaiah 44:24 KJV Thus saith the Lord , thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
@@remnantime3672 correct: Jesus and the Father are two men, in John 8:17-18's teaching, each having his own material body with his own spirit of man within his body.
The trinity vs unitarianism debate is something which has been debated for centuries, and most christians hold to the model of God in which he is triune. I shall show how the existence of such a being is impossible, and that the only conclusion is that a unitarian God is true. The trinity is a christian doctrine which states that there are three persons who are distinguished via opposition of relation, as the father has the constitutive property of paternity whilst the son has the constitutive property of filiation, hence we can distinguish these persons in reality via opposition of relation as this relation can be said to be a real distinction. Now, under thomism the persons of the trinity are each identical to the essence insofar as they are not really distinguished from it, meaning a property is not lacking between essence and persons as we define a distinction via lack of a property between two things. If this identity statement between the essence is absolute, then we can utilize the metaphysical account of LL which states: ∀X ∀Y ∀F(Fx Fy) -> x=y, meaning if they share all properties, then they are just identical. Applying this metaphysical account of identity to this identity statement asserted by the thomists, we can conclude that by virtue of the persons being identical to the essence, then the essence must have these intrinsic properties which they have. Meaning by virtue of being identical the father the essence has the property of paternity, and by virtue of being identical to the son the essence has the property of filiation, thus the conclusion is that the essence has both paternity and filiation, but the son lacks paternity whilst the father lacks filiation hence the identity statement between the persons and essence is invalid as a property lacked. Not all thomists or those who posit an identity statement are speaking of an absolute statement, rather they posit a relative identity statement which uses sortals to display an identity relation. Relative identity avoids the formulation of the argument I have placed since they deny a metaphysical account of identity. However, it would appear that an appeal to RI would be trivial since the theory of RI does not negate that we can still make real distinction by usage of non-sortal predicates/attributes, so I can simply assert that the essence lacks paternity, thus a distinction in reality between essence and father and the same can be said with the other persons (essence lacks filiation, hence a distinction in reality between son and essence). Disregarding this entire argument I have put forth, there is still an issue with making an appeal to RI under a synchronic case. The issue is that the thesis of RI does not give a metaphysical account of identity, it simply states that things are identical if they are one and the same which does not give a reason/metaphysical account as to why they are identical. So, the conclusion is that an appeal to RI under a synchronic context is incoherent as it posits a brute fact by virtue of there being no reason for this identity statement. The only way an RI theorist can avoid this issue is by applying RI to only diachronic contexts, whilst disregarding it under synchronic contexts. Meaning; young aristotle =Φ adult aristotle, where “Φ” is a sortal “human” thus it can be rewritten like this: young aristotle =(human) adult aristotle. The explanation for this relative identity statement would be time as it is under a diachronic context. The conclusion is now that RI cannot be used under synchronic contexts, unless the PSR is dismissed. Let us hypothetically say that the trinitarian upholds the minority model of the trinity, in which a real distinction is asserted between the persons and essence. Well, the argument I have put forth above would not apply, but a more enhanced version of Ibn Sina's individuation argument would when speaking of the persons. Now, since that the persons are inseparable and under one existence, then Ibn Sina's argument cannot apply here as there is no multiplicity of Gods with their own existence. Rather, a more enhanced version of this argument which can be applied to the trinity is that the properties of the persons IE that distinguishes them, are identical to their necessary existence. If we assert the contrary (that there's a real distinction in their necessary existence) then polytheism follows, as we have a multiplicity of necessary existences (both essentially and modally). So, since these properties are identical in their necessary existence but distinguished from each other, then that which distinguishes them would have to be either possible or impossible. It obviously cannot be the latter for self-explanatory reasons, and we cannot ascribe necessity since they are identical in their existence, thus the only conclusion is to assert that its possibility, hence contingency is present. If they ask why necessity cannot be said of these attributes, then that would assume a distinction in their necessary existence hence polytheism. This is why invite you to Islam, a unitarian God who is independent omnipotent timeless agent. Allah means 'god' in Arabic, in fact the problems of any philosophical argument can be only answered with unitarian approach.
I would call myself a Messianic believer of Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus the Messiah, Jesus Christ) instead of a christian. But I would agree with your position that Jesus is the incarnation of God our Father.
Neither one is right, a child was born he was given power, highly exalted, power and judgement was put in his hands, the son prayed all night to his Father which is in heaven. Both Oneness and Trinitarians reject the birth of Jesus Christ by stating he always existed .
I hear that the word trinity isn't in the bible. Is the word oneness? I hear people that don't believe in the trinity but do believe in the millennium says the word trinity isn't in the bible. Is the word millennium in the bible? that type of reasoning would flunk a I.Q. test.
One is mentioned many thousands of times in relation to God, not 3. The Bible speaks of a 1,000 year period, or a millennium. It never makes reference to something remotely relating to a trinity.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa so the word trinity, oneness and Millennium are not in the bible but the word three is in 1 John 5:7 but you may not believe in that verse.
You certainly don’t watch the channel much I assume. I’ve done multiple videos on the authenticity of 1 john 5:7. Those 3 are 1, not agree in 1. Like your 3 in 1, but 1 Person. And that’s one verse as opposed to thousands for one.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa but no verses say Oneness, Millennium or Trinity so the reasoning that if a word isn't in the Bible then the subject isn't in the bible is a flawed argument. I believe there's a oneness but says we believers are one as Christ and the Father are one but I don't believe all us believers are one person or the same person I believe we are different people but are called one. So too with Christ and the Father are one. Thank you for your diligence by the way as most people who are discussing God's word turns it into a burden and takes offence to talking things over so I appreciate that process you possess as it's a missing part in modern society.
I run a inhouse service and there are both trinity and oneness people in the service. I just stick to terminology that is in the bible and add no terminology that's not, WE are biblest as to say we have no doctrine battles. for the Lord prayed for us to be one as He and the father are one.....
Easiest proof to the trinity in the beginning was the word and the word was God and the word was with God and the word became flesh . Why did you think they killed Jesus easy because he claimed to be the Christ who is God in the flesh
The word was God, the word was in the beginnig(God was in the beginning) and the wird was with God talks about God's character, how God is a man of his word because everything he says he does. The word became flesh because when God speaks his speech creates, so when God spoke his word into existence (the physical realm) he made the body which he dwelled within (HEBREW 10:5). God never became a human cause God never changes all he did was put on flesh as we put on clothes.Amen.Gid bless you.
Jesus is the true Tabernacle and image of the invisible God. Colossians 1:15, 2nd Corinthians 4:4, 4:6, Hebrews 1:1-3, John 12:45, 14:7-9. He was of course born of a woman and was therefore flesh but in His Spirit was the Spirit of God. 2nd Corinthians 5:19. Colossians 2:9. Psalm 22:16-18. Matthew 28:19, Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38, 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.” - Isaiah 45:23 (KJV) “For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.” - Romans 14:11 (KJV) Philippians 2 (KJV) ¹⁰ That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; ¹¹ And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Isaiah 43:11 Be blessed.
I f o u n d the oneness of God by Bernard..so will read it again. Trinity is hard to reconcile with ONE GOD. Thanks for video. 325. Was after Jesus by about 325 years and Catholic I think. Jews had bible for 1500 years and never got a trinity. As you say. Father..son..holy spirit ARE titles. JESUS is a name. YAHWEH has become Yeshua..Ex. 15.2. In original HEB. LORD has become salvation in KJV.
I'm not here to argue about everything... but saying that 'in whom' means that God-the-Father was saying that he was "in Christ" when He said "in whom I am well pleased" is just lazy (at best) or dishonest (at worst). He's 'forgetting' that he's explaining an English word (or words) as though it was Greek. So, any time in history that any English speaker used the phrase "in whom I am...", that means they were talking about being inside the person (or persons) they mentioned in their statement. 😕
Anyone who thinks the Oneness is what God is , is clearly someone who tries to read the bible with their own understanding , u can’t go reading the Bible with ur own naked eye , u absolutely cannot rely on ur own understanding on what u think the Bible is saying Allow the Holy Spirit to help u understand the Bible in how it’s supposed to be read my man God is Father , Son & Holy Spirit .. just like how u have a body , u have a soul and u have a spirit Father , Son & Holy Spirit are all titles that represent who God is as our Creator For all of u who truly want to understand God , here’s who He is Father ( Creator ) Son ( The Word “ Jesus “ ) Holy Spirit ( Who He is ) These three aspects of God are not three different gods , these three aspects of God are what God is known as to His children God bless u all 🙏🏽✝️💯
Who was God talking to when He said Let us make man in our image and likeness? What about the fourth man in the fire with Shadrach Meshach and Abendego? I'm curious, I want to know the truth. Thank you
You don’t go in with a preconceived i dear. You start studying Bible and let Holy Spirit give you the understanding. You never doubt Your Heavenly Father. Every word of the Bible is true. Don’t add to the scripture. It not for private interpretation. The Holy Spirit give you the understanding. All believers will believe the same. Just like the in the Bible over 2000 years.
Do the Oneness people State a time for the birth or the beginning of the ministry of Jesus during which it may fit into the dating of Daniel 70 weeks prophecy?
New life of Albany, the Bible and the Biblical Hebrew and Greek clearly proves the trinity. People who deny the trinity, are either blinded by the devil or very dishonest.
From my little lesson on bible, ONENESS is in heaven is correct. For me, (The Father, The Son and Holy Spirit) is a CODE of war againt satan and dimonic kingdom ON EARTH. It is not apply in real heaven. Reasson is somekind of code war? = christian baptize in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Spiritually, by Heaven Law We are now became army of God, we are on God side( God ultimate purposed). I am not good in remember the bible scripture. Very sorry for that.. help me to studies about what i write on top. Gbu.
In Matthew 28 17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted. 18 And Jesus came and said to them, "in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. It is Like a CODE OF WAR.. The 1st thing Lord Jesus facing just after baptized is maybe can be prove .. Matthew 4:1-25 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. And the tempter came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple ... Ephesians 6:10-18 Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, ...
Wellbeing Channel Jesus spoke the Father's words when he clearly defined himself and the Father in John 8:17-18's teaching the two of them are men by the law of Jesus' listeners, meaning each has his own material body with a spirit of man within his body: Jesus has his own mortal material dust body with his own spirit of man - the spirit of God's Son crying Abba Father Galatians 4:6; the Spirit of Christ Romans 8:9, the Spirit of adoption saying Abba Father, and the Spirit of Jesus Christ Philippians 1:19 - within his body; The Father has his own God [before creation] material Spirit man body with his own Spirit of man, called the Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11b, within his body 1st Corinthians 2:11b, John 8:17-18's teaching. How could God be limited by having his own God [before creation] material Spirit man body?
Inspirational show!You are well read ,& done volumes of biblical research.. )I was UPCI 30years ..Oneness doctrine .. ) God revealed The Pre-Existing Son as the Word ( Logos )..forever in the beginning through eternity.. The Word (Christ) ,became flesh .. )Eternal beings never stop or change..manifesting Their Distinctness.. )If the Father came to Earth as man ,He would have become the Lamb of God .. Therefore if I worship the Father as Jesus my Lord & Savior ..I deny the Manifestation of My Father .. In Heaven I will behold One God ,my Lord Jesus Christ.. The Eternal Son of God ..
I honestly grew up in a trinitarian church, but we never used that word ever, I just knew we were pentecostal Christians, it wasn't till I found a oneness apostolic pentecostal church that I learned about it and my aunt told me later on that we come from a trinity based family belief. I found out there's 2 types of trinitarians, there's those that believe that they are separate gods and ones (like I used to believe) that believe that they made up 1 God equally, that each one was 1/3rd God and one couldn't exist without the other 2. The oneness makes way more sense to me and to be honest I never felt the Holy Ghost more or felt more zealous for living for God than at a oneness apostolic church, the oneness is the truth, I feel it, it's why I choose to only read an akjv Bible now instead of the NLT, NkJV and "the message" Bibles like I used to.
I like hearing these kinds of testimonies because it reminds me of myself, and how it "clicked" for me...God bless and continue walking with the Lord Jesus until the end.
The words "separation of church and state" never appear once in any founding document of our United States. Though the phrase "separation of church and state" is never expressly written anywhere, it arises from a plain reading and understanding of the texts in their entirety. A trinitarian holds that God is 1 being revealed consistently over time in 3 persons. Being refers to "what" a thing is by nature. I have flesh, bones, blood, eyes, a brain, etc...and those things make me a "human." Person refers to "who" a thing is by nature. I (person) am a human (being). If I were to say God is 1 being, but is really 3 beings by nature...we'd have problems with logic itself. If I were to say God is 1 person, but really is 3 persons by nature...we'd have problems with logic itself. One of the greatest philosphical questions of all time is: "How can there be true diversity in unity?" To better understand these types of questions, we (until recently) went to a "Uni-versity" which is a mash-up of these two seemingly contradictory concepts into one word. It is only within a proper understanding of Christianity, as opposed to any other world religion on Earth, that we find true diversity within a complete unity. No other. "Oneness" in all it's various forms over 2000 years of Church history, whether monarchistic modalism, Sabellianism, or modern Pentecostal "Oneness" (and I hope everyone who reads this looks up these for themselves)....has been authoritatively rejected as heresy...which means those who hold to it are "outside the faith." They have rejected the manner in which God has chosen to reveal Himself through His Holy Word. The bible says two different things 1) a husband and 2) a wife are "one flesh". Is there still any distinction to be found between the man (person) and a woman (person) after (being) married?
As to your title, why do I believe in the trinity? Because it's scriptural and revealed plainly. I HAVE to believe it because comes from the word itself. Not one verse says jesus is the Father. Dont even bring up the one verse of him being the Father of eternity. That's saying he is the source or originator of all creation and all things of eternity. But that doesn't mean he's the Father of whom sends Him. I challenge anyone who can find one scripture that jesus is the Father. Dont even bring up show us the Father verse either. Jesus never responded, I am the Father. He said those who seen me has seen the Father. Why? Because no one has seen God the Father except the Son and the Son REVEALS Him. The Son is sent from the Father. The Son comes to do the Fathers will. He comes to bring the Father's message. He comes to fulfill the Fathers plan. He even led the prayer towards the Father of our Father. So it's a no brainer those who seen the Son has seen the Father. Do I need to mention that the Son does what the Father does. They are in perfect unity. God is Elohim. That's why God can say Let us make, let us go down, who will go for Us
Can I show you a Verse in the Bible that says the Trinty Saves you? Yes! The Father Chooses all those who are in the Son, The Son becomes Flesh and Dies for the Sins of all those whom the Father chose in him, and The spirit Regenerates, Sanctifies, and Seals us unto the day of redemption! It's very clear and obvious! I'll be praying for you!
Considering that the Lord God is one God, Oneness seems to represent that idea vs Trinitarian which places God as three PERSONS, to me. I can grasp one being three but three persons being one ? I've struggled trying to understand this Great Mystery. So if one loves Jesus and trusts in Him but believes the way I do...God will send them to Hell because they can't understand the Trinitarian doctrine ? Does ANYONE truly understand the mystery of the Godhead fully ? Isaiah, prophesying of the future birth of Jesus calls Him "...the Prince of Peace, Wonderful Counselor, the Mighty God, and the Everlasting Father." How can anyone deny this ? There are other Scriptures "I and my Father are One," Disciples to Jesus "Show us the Father and it will satisfy us," "Have I been among you so long and you still don't know who I am ? If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father." There are many Scriptures that bears this out, so who can say that the Trinitarian view is correct and the Oneness view wrong ?
Do you think it funny that Matt 28:19 is the only place you will find it , all other place it say in Jesus or Christ . For me Trinity we not let you be part of it , and Jesus said to be one in him as he is one with the Father .justsaying . God is not a man , God is spirit Let go back to the Bible . Jesus is who if not what Rev 22: 16 said .
Not one nor three. The almighty God can NOT be here, because He would be expected to A) be free to decide and B) know the future. But having at the same time both abilities is logically impossible. This is why we have the Son of God: He does NOT know the future. The Son of God was the Father in a remote past, when He still had his power. The almighty God from the past can be here now in the form of a spirit.
Jeremiah 5:10 "Go ye upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD'S." 2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." Acts 2:38, 4:12
Acts 4:26 'the Lord and his Christ': they are not one only but two; life eternal that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ who you have sent' John 17:3 : Jesus is not the Father, the only true God!
Its annoying how people say the trinity doctrine was made up in church council. The trinity is littered with scripture and proof through out the whole bible. Oneness doctrine is nowhere to be found. It itself is based on scriptures taken out of context. Jesus never said he was the Father. Jesus never said he was the Spirit. Oneness basically says that in john 3 16, the the father did not send his son but that he became the son. Oneness has to call jesus a liar for saying he was sent. Oneness has to discard that jesus said he witnesses of himself and the Father witnesses of him because the rule of 2 or more. Oneness has to ignore that jesus is the mediator because a mediator is a person who comes between 2 or more. That man christ jesus is the word. He is fully God AND fully man. Oneness has to ignore the john 1:1. Repent from this heresy
Notice the man in the video will not respond to you. He doesnt have an argument so he just makes a video and ignores the rebuttals. Very dishonest if you ask me.
@@truthhurts958 true. God bless u
@@truthhurts958 agreed
Im a oneness believer, and yes God sent his Son but the Son before Gid's spirit filled it was just a body, so God did indeed send his Son. However when Gid stepped into that Body we see that it obtainec his name whuch is hugher than all the angels (jesus christ), we that exchange and there is anither exchange where God can niw take on the title if the flesh he sent(The Son) because he stepoed in it, so we see that there is an exchange. For God has many titles. When it says the Father bear witness of me and i bear witness of the Father, it simply means that The spirit of God bears witness of the flesh and that the flesh too bears withness of God.
And when it says that Jesus is the mediator, to have a mediator you have to be seperate from that which you want ti communicate with. So Jesus is the mediator because his death, resurrection and blood now joins us back with God because we were once seperated from God.
John 8:19,21,23-25
[19] Then they asked him,
"WHERE IS YOUR FATHER?"
Jesus answered,
"You neither know me, nor my Father. If you had known me, you should have known my Father also."
[21] Then Jesus again unto them,
"I go my way, and YOU SHALL SEEK ME, AND SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS. Where I go, ye cannot come."
[23] And he said unto them,
"You are from beneath; I AM FROM ABOVE. You are of this world; I AM NOT OF THIS WORLD.
[24] I SAID THEREFORE unto you, THAT YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS. FOR IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THAT I AM HE, YOU SHALL DIE IN YOUR SINS."
[25] Then they asked him, "WHO ARE YOU?" And Jesus said unto them, "EVEN THE SAME THAT I SAID UNTO YOU FROM THE BEGINNING."
The Israelites knew EXACTLY what He was saying! That's why in the Scriptures, they sought to kill Him!
This 'from the beginning' was 'from the beginning of his ministry work, not from the beginning of creation.
Jesus as the Word was 'in the beginning' but not as Jesus, 'born of a woman, born under the law' Galatians 4:4.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 I can't reason with someone who believes there are TWO GODS! SORRY! I gave you a TON of Scripture and your interpretation of Scripture, well, is just plain weird. We have gone round and round and I'm done. You ask people questions and you make your statements but you aren't even reading the answers to understand. Anyway, I've exhausted A LOT of time on you. I don't regret it because it's what JESUS called me to do. The only thing I regret is that you aren't learning anything. If and when GOD wants you to understand, then you will. Until then, if I were you, I'd QUIT teaching others that there are TWO EQUAL GODS! That is heresy and idolatry at its finest!
@@childofthemosthigh5219 When is it Ever Idolatry and Heresy When Your Statement Agrees With Scripture!??!?!!
1- the Father gave away his authority over mankind to his Son Jesus Christ John5:22,27; unsupervised authority to his Son over man John5:22, whether in heaven or in the earth Matthew 28:18
Even over the church:
A- 'gave him to be head over all things [yes, over all things] to the church which is his body the fulness of him that fills all in all' Ephesians 1:22-23.
B-
1b * Jesus Christ is the CEO CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER OF ADMINISTRATIONS 'there are differences of administrations but the same Lord 1st Constitution 12:5
2b* God the Father is COO CHIEF OF OPERATIONS
'And there are diversities of operations but it is the same God which works all in all' 1st Corinthians 12:6 , voluntarily 1st Corinthians 15:27 'but when he says all things are put under him it is manifest - clearly known - that he is excepted which did put all things under him' 1st Corinthians 15:27.
God went Further:
Jesus said "that all should honor the Son even as they honor the Father' John 5:23 How much do you Honor The Father? Jesus' honor is not an honorary title, or position, as God his Father gave him, Jesus, unsupervised authority over all men in heaven and in earth Matthew 28:18, John 5:22,27.
Hebrews 1:8 'but unto the Son, Your throne o God is for ever and ever; the scepter of righteousness is the scepter of your kingdom' Hebrews 1:8: Jesus has his own kingdom John 18:36, Revelation 11:15.
The problem with your TON OF EVIDENCE IS . .. IT DOESN'T ANSWER MY PORTIONS OF SCRIPTURE NOR DOES IT EXPLAIN BY INTEGRATING IT INTO THE OTHER SEEMINGLY CONTRADICTORY PORTIONS.
When the Bible mentions that the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit are one, that means they’re the same in essence. They’re one YHWH but three different persons. That is why God is called Elohim. Is wrong to say that God transforms in roles because denies the deity of Christ. If the trinity doesn’t exist, then God’s eternal plan of salvation through his son is destroy. Oneness is a heresy.
@@childofthemosthigh5219 Christ himSELF delared the "One
True GOD," as his...FATHER.
Scripture:
"GOD THE FATHER."
Yes!
GOD the Son..
No!
The doctrine of the Trinity came out of Rome not Jerusalem. Amazes me how Protestants and evangelicals
try to distance themselves from the Roman Catholic Church but most have adopted this heretical doctrine as their own. Think most people are steadfast in their belief of the Trinity out of loyalty to the teachings of their denominations which is un-Scriptual in itself.
Matthew 28:19 now baptize in the name of the father, son and Holy Spirit. How would you interpret that as a Unitarian? No offense just curious, I myself am agnostic about the trinity.
“For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”
1 John 5:7 KJV
Amen!
Why did GOD the FATHER say there is NO SAVIOUR BUT ME . The old testament still exists . You do know that ? The Father , Son , Holy Ghost are a Parable so we can know the Almighty God which is beyond comprehension.
@@relatablecontentissues6703it is Jesus who said there There is no Saviour but Me
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?
Prov 30:4
@@JC-Genesis15.6That was forward looking, or prophetic, just as Ps. 2:7 is. It is not suggestive of a eternal son of God, but of from their viewpoint in history, the coming Messiah.
Suddenly today the Oneness doctrinal position makes sense it is only taken me 50 years AND about 11 months since April 12th 1970 but it is such a great relief to finally see it and be able to commit to something that is truth that you've been a big part of that by your attention to detail on the various Bibles which I figure translates into attention to detail in the Bible itself as we say in Texas it takes what it takes.
Sadly, you have officially left Christ if you now are a oneness.
Beloved if oneness is true why does God desire relation with us. It would be contrary to his nature given that he existed from eternity past alone. Before Adam sinned the only thing God said was bad was that Adam was alone. Again this is reflecting God's multipersonal nature, which was only fully revealed and dimystified with the coming of Christ in the flesh.😔😢🙏📖⏳♨️
@truth_merchant7839 it's amazing how you make up all this arguments that you have no evidence to. The trinity has to be read into the text by the reader because otherwise, its just not there.
i was trinitarian for 35 years, and now i am oneness. Welcome to the truth!
Thank you for opening my eyes to the truth. God bless you with more wisdom. In Jesus name. Amen
I know I should be able to understand much of this Oneness. But that combined with the Trinity just makes my head spin I did graduate from the University of Texas at Austin in 1971 so I know how to make it through tough times. It just seems it Trinity and Oneness are two competing events and I cannot really understand either one of them
My Bible Study tonight was on the Oneness of God. You may want to watch it.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Your bible audio teach vs from church are mostly inaudible. Your love and instruction on the various Bibles leads me to believe that you're probably right on the Oneness Doctrine I just need some simple explanation of how it works I think I'm getting there but it sure difficult the brother who wrote the one this book is I think the pastor of the church here in Austin of course nobody can get out anymore and I couldn't even if I wanted to because I can't drive and I'm not healthy enough to get out
When it comes to subject of the nature of God. Have it be a oneness or trinitarian or something else. I don't think anybody truly can understand or subscribe who and what God is by nature. I come from a background that is trinitarian. But over the last few years I have ventured outside that framework trying to study and read and listen to other views of God.
It's one reason why I like this channel
Amen, love it! The one eternal invisible Spirit of God did manifest himself into time and physicality (his creation). "He came unto his own, and his own received him not." Jn. 1:11.
Jesus is the express image of God's (singular) person (Heb. 1:1-3). This would imply that God has "person" qualities albeit at an eternal and invisible level, incarnate to us in Jesus (Col. 2:9). This would explain Thomas' words when he exclaimed to Jesus; "My Lord and my God." Jn. 20:28. It also explains why the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost is Jesus, fusing Matt. 28:19 with Acts 2:38.
Amen Brother Waldron!
earth is flat
Scripture speaks of reconciliation. We are enemies of God. But He sent the Son to reconcile us to the Father. Who then sends the Spirit to seal us and to sanctify. To say they are all the same person is blatantly go against scripture. The Son saves only whom the Father draws. The Spirit then dwells in them
If you've seen him(Jesus) you've seen the Father. John 12:15 "He that seeth me seeth him that sent me." John 8:58 "Before Abraham was I am." Isaiah 9:6 Micah 5:2, John 10:30 1 Timothy 3:16. It's all there Jesus is God in human form... not a second person in a tri-unity. Oneness is far from heresy... its is the faith of our Fathers.
@@javierdelgado1554 I was also a trinity believer. This is installed in men without any reference of the word, they grow with it and believe it as it is. Just because my pastor said soo, just because I was taught this from bible college. They are so occupied and they don't give any room to understand this. But I want to confess that I was one of them, until God set me free.
Just listen to Oneness with open mind and say God I want to learn your will, God sees the motives.....He will help. It was against my will to receive it but I allowed the Word of God to defeat me! My life with GOD has dynamically grown in a great way. THE BIBLE HAS BECOME NEW TO ME, AND I HAVE REALIZED THAT THE BIBLE IS NOT THE WAY WE READ IT, THAT IS WHY WE NEED SPIRITUAL UNDERSTANDING!
@@javierdelgado1554 How could Jesus be the Father when he is in the Father and the Father is in him, he speaks the words of the Father John 14:7-11?????
@@joginahlesetja3550 U: Oneness in which the Father, Son, and Spirit are each other, yes?
I agree with there are two Gods 'in the beginning' the Word and 'the' God as shown in 'the Word was with the God' in the Greek in John 1:1b and the Word was God was made flesh as Jesus was not a true God John 17:3 but after his death and resurrection to heaven begotten of God Acts13:33 2nd Corinthians 5:2,4 anointed Hebrews 1:9 as God Hebrews 1:8, John 5:22,23 'sitting on the right hand of power' Mark 14:62, 'sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high' Hebrews 1:3.
Jesus spoke the words of the Father in John 8:17-18's teaching that the Son and the Father are two men witnesses, each having his own material body with a spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d with Zechariah 12:1.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 how can flesh be in the Father? Jesus is speaking about his unity with the Father as the same person.
I was raised oneness, but when I learned how to read and exegete scripture for what it says and not presupposing oneness, I quickly found that it fell apart. Last year I watched Sam Shamoun absolutely school Steven Ritchie in a debate and that's when I knew I couldn't hang onto the heresy anymore. Oneness theology's biggest enemy is the word of God.
I’ll try to check that out my friend. I was not raised Oneness, but Trinitarian, and have found the opposite to be true.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa @New Life Of Albany Ga. What is wrong with the approach that both are true? In the same way that we can not comprehend that Jesus was fully man and fully God, we cannot comprehend that God is one, yet also three in spirit. Bible says that God is one, and Jesus himself separates himself from God, saying that only one is good, the father. Yet he also says "I and my father are one", but that he sits on the right hand of God. I don't understand it, but I can't deny that there's an indication of both oneness and an element of separation. In no way do I think trinitarianism thinks we have three Gods, ranked in any order. But Jesus separates himself from God, and also says that Holy Spirit is the comforter that would come after him (though the OT says plenty of times that so-and-so was 'filled with the holy spirit'). So my takeaway thus far has been that God is spirit, and God is one, but within God are the roles of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, and the same God is all three of those things. They are separate but the same. Perhaps I don't understand enough about oneness theology. But I don't want to know about any theology as much as I just want to understand the truth of christ and keep his word.
@@jaronferrer6491 Jesus spoke the words of God the Father John 14:9-10 in John 8:17-18's teaching: the Son Jesus Christ is a man witness by the law of Jesus' listeners, meaning each has his own material body - a mortal material dust flesh body - with his own spirit of man - the Spirit of God's Son crying Abba Father Galatians 4:6; the Spirit of Christ Romans 8:9, the Spirit of adoption calling Abba Father Romans 8:15; the Spirit of Jesus Christ Philippians 1:19 - within his man body; God the Father (God John 8:54, Spirit John 4:24) has his own material body - God [before creation] material Spirit man body - with his own spirit of man - the Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11b - within his God material Spirit man body 1st Corinthians 2:11.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 yes, the spirit of God was in Christ, no one's denying that, hopefully. I have no argument to make, other than arguing against the inclination to argue. You listed plenty of scripture, there are just as many testifying to a slightly different conclusion. It's more than we can understand. So I just accept what the Bible says, and I don't try to use scripture to negate other scripture. I just try to understand, and leave to Him when I don't.
@@xraylemur Shouldn't you agree we 'should live by every word of God' Matthew 4:4??????
Wouldn't that involve exercising our ability to discern between Scriptures which would be our going from the milk of the word to increasingly learning to eat the meat of the word of God Hebrews 5:13-14. What do you think?
Going from drinking the milk of the word 1st Peter 2:2, 1st Corinthians 3:2, to eating the meat of the word of God Hebrews 5:13-14 involves exercising between Scriptures and differing words, meanings, and conclusions.
I would like to help you. Grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.
“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.”
- Isaiah 12:2 (KJV)
“And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.”
- Isaiah 25:9 (KJV)
Isaiah 43 (KJV)
¹⁰ Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
¹¹ I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isaiah 45 (KJV)
⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45 (KJV)
²¹ Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
²² Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.”
- Isaiah 54:5 (KJV)
"And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.”
- Isaiah 59:16 (KJV)
“Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.”
- Isaiah 60:16 (KJV)
“Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.”
- Hosea 13:4 (KJV)
Psalms 22 (KJV)
¹⁶ For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
¹⁷ I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
¹⁸ They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
“And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.”
- Zechariah 11:12 (KJV)
“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”
- Zechariah 12:10 (KJV)
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.”
- Micah 5:2 (KJV)
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
- Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
- Matthew 1:23 (KJV)
“And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.”
- Luke 1:47 (KJV)
“Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,”
- Luke 1:68 (KJV)
Little fun fact. Look up what the Hebrew word is that's used for "salvation" in Isaiah 12:2.
God is one and alone
his name is JESUS
I am the Lord Thy God the Holy ONE of Israel thy Savior isa 43: 3
HOLY ONE
( Not Holy 3)
Jesus and All Apostoles never taught TRINITY
JESUS SAID THE FATHER IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD JN17
( Not 3 Person)
your so wrong Jesus is the second member of the Trinity. Mark 16:19 So then the Lord Jesus, after he had spoken to them, was taken up into heaven and sat down at the right hand of God. that's the Father got it Hmm
Nothing he said is scripturally incorrect.
I have Trinitarian family members who have compared us to Mormons... and think we are a cult. They also frowned when we told them we believe in the baptism in the name of Jesus...You really find out who's who when you tell someone you are a Oneness believer.
Amen!
Javier Delgado A cult is defined as having two or more distinctions contrary to orthodoxy. Usually these involve denying the diety of Jesus Christ John5:23, and the Christ come in the flesh 1st John 4:1-2.
For me, I actually find Pastor Waldron's approach one that acts in the fruits of the Spirit. I've interacted with other oneness individuals who vohemently cast condemnation and have no interest in dialogue, and aptly simply damn anyone not believing as they do. I haven't come to embrace oneness because of various texts throughout scripture.
@@brendakauffman2222 the Bible is full of Oneness scriptures. Jesus speaks of the Father being the only true God...because there is only one God. If Jesus is God then we must assume that Jesus is the Father manifest in the flesh. A triune God is not taught anywhere in scripture....neither by Jesus or his Apostles...it is a formulated doctrine developed over time from pagan philosophies...they wanted to mix the Holy with the world, like the iron mixed with clay, which is the Holy Roman Empire who claims to be the only true church...anyone who held to a Oneness view of God was fiercely persecuted by RCC.
The God of Modalism is not the God of Scripture. In addition, the God of the Bible does not change - his nature stays forever the same. (Malachi 3:6) God does not mediate between Himself. For there is one God, and one mediator between God and man, the man Christ Jesus; (1 Timothy 2:5). (John 5:20) does not mean the Father loves Himself. Modalism Is Inconsistent And Confusing, if the Father, Son, and Spirit are the only God under three different names or modes, then the New Testament would be totally inconsistent and confusing. For example, in the prayer of Jesus Christ, recorded in John 17, He is addressing His Father. According to Modalism He is praying to Himself. Such an idea is absurd. I wouldn’t like to have a millstone around my neck (Matthew 18:6)…
Trinitarians love to say: Deuteronomy 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord, …🤯….BUT……………😂😂😂😂
Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Trinity, triune or triune god is not even mentioned in the scriptures…..BUT…😂😂😂😂
Pray harder!
Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son’s name, if thou canst tell?
Proverbs 30:4
I am surprised to hear from you in this video that you used to believe in Trinity.You are right the Bible does not contain the word Trinity and so is Oneness.This topic is a very sensitive one.We may not agree on every doctrine or Biblical concepts while on earth but when we get to heaven all this disagreements will be over.
The word trinity did not yet exist in biblical times....it was not invented until around the 3rd century. The Bible also describes dinosaur like creatures....but does not use the word dinosaur....because it was not yet invented.
@@TheRoyalAngler Theologians invented or coined terms in order to help believers understand Bible concepts or doctrine.The Bible is the Word of God and I believe it,I worship God in three persons in one God,you may believe that God is one just like the Jews and other monotheist while I God differently in the Trinity.I respect what you believe and expect others who believe differently from me to respect my belief as well.
@@joseenriqueagutaya131 no I believe in the trinity just as you! These oneness people are being deceived by the devil. The will tell you things that sound good and truthfull or even holy to get you to believe his tricks. Read all my comments on here!
@@TheRoyalAngler I'm sorry I mistook you as a believer in Oneness.I just can't understand why people insist on teaching that God is Father,Son and Holy Spirit.Personally I believe Scriptures teaches One God in three Persons not just manifestation.Take for example during Christ crucixion who was Christ talking in Luke 23:33 and called Him Father Himself or another Person.There are many other verses one can read understand that there is one God in three Persons not three Gods.One reference that clearly says the Father and the Son are two distinct persons is in the baptism of Jesus Christ in Matthew 3:13-17,particularly in verse 17 where the voice (Father)from heaven saying This is my beloved Son,in whom I am well pleased.
@@joseenriqueagutaya131 its okay, just pray for the ones being deceived and not argue with them...simply present them with the truth and if they refuse to believe or accept it...all we can do after that is the same we can do with sinners...pray for them...we can show them the light but cannot force them to step into it. They must make that choice on their own.
One or Two, or Even Three ...
Oneness or the Trinity?
What is this talk, that I hear?
A Trinity, that you declare.
You think I need, society?
I conform to your, propriety?
Had I not declared,
from days of old?
Can't you accept,
what you've been told?
I declared I AM! Only One!
I AM the Spirit, and in the Son.
I do not need, Anyone else.
I AM complete, within Myself.
Who do I need, to council Me?
You think I need, two or three?
I AM GOD,
don't you understand?
I do not need,
a helping hand.
All for you,
that I have done,
it was YOU,
who needs a Son!
Foreordained,
from long ago,
I told you what,
you need to know.
So when I came,
My people would see,
in that Man,
Messiah would be.
I became a Father,
when I begat a Son
to fulfill My Promise,
until My work is done.
The Son did not exist,
before the fall,
I'm just One God,
I'm ALL IN ALL.
It is YOU who sin,
and YOU who die,
I made a way,
to give you Life.
A blood sacrifice,
is what I command.
So I gave you,
the Perfect Lamb.
But you forget,
the reason why,
I came to Earth,
from on High.
My Sacrifice,
on that Stand,
the Son of God
AND Son of Man.
A mediator,
between you and Me,
I gave My Life,
so you would see,
just how much,
I love you all,
to wash your sins,
from the fall.
I gave you My Word,
for you to read,
to recognize fulfillment,
of prophesy.
In everything,
that I have done,
you insist it is I,
who needs that Son.
As if that isn't,
bad enough,
you think I need,
another's love.
This other Person,
the Holy Spirit?
Then Who Am I,
with this limit?
I AM SPIRIT and I AM TRUTH!
But you insist,
I'm just like you.
You try to reason,
and justify,
Who I AM,
that sits on High.
There is but One,
on My Throne.
I AM that Chief,
Cornerstone.
I AM that Foundation,
and that Rock,
to many of you,
a stumbling block.
A Rock of offense,
not just for Jews,
but to all who reject,
My Good News.
It's important for you,
to understand,
the Jews know WHAT,
I [really] AM.
I entrusted them,
with My Oracles.
Don't ignore,
the historicals.
They know I'm One,
or it's blasphemy!
There's No One Else.
There's Only Me.
"Hear O Israel, the Lord is One"
That is why, they rejected the Son.
They saw a man, claimed to be God,
in Equality, and Echad [One].
I did not withhold,
a secret from them.
You must understand,
I AM THAT I AM!
Nothing's impossible,
for Almighty God!
Faith is believing that,
in your heart.
"Trust in Me," I have said,
there are things,
you cannot understand.
YOU are divided.
It isn't Me.
I AM ONE,
not a Trinity.
I AM JESUS,
that is My Name!
Father and Son,
Spirit's the same.
I AM Love,
it's not something I need!
What makes you think,
I get lonely?
Are you putting words,
into My Mouth?
Teaching lies,
that cannot be found?
I warned you don't add,
nor take away,
lest you repent,
you will die in vain.
Teaching for,
doctrines of men,
false prophets abound,
are you one of them?
Read both Testaments,
Old and New.
Not one excluded,
so read them through.
Don't get too deep,
in theology,
don't get blinded by,
your philosophy.
With My help,
My Word was made,
to be understood,
by even babes.
Changing God,
to fit your rules,
professing to be wise,
you become as fools.
The Bible is,
a personal task
I'd help you out,
if you'd only ask.
Do not qualify,
your faith from men.
I'm your Rabbi.
The Great Amen.
Here is Scripture,
reintroduced,
of Who I AM,
it's in My clues.
Parables and prophesies,
visions and dreams,
not all is clear,
not what it seems.
Some are direct,
and some are vague.
The answer's in,
My Holy Name.
Emmanuel [God with Us]
Jesus [God Saves]
YAH [I AM]
Written by Sharon Ellis
Sunday, March 8th, 2020
Inspired by the words of the Holy Spirit.
John 14:10
Believest thou not that I AM IN THE FATHER, and THE FATHER IN ME? The words that I speak unto you I SPEAK NOT OF MYSELF, BUT THE FATHER THAT DWELLS IN ME.
HE DOES THE WORKS.
In Jesus' own words above, remember what He said as you read the Bible! He is saying the words He speaks are the words of The FATHER! So, when you read everything Jesus says, remember it is The FATHER SPEAKING 😘
Jesus Christ said in John 12:49
"For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak."
The Father is the Holy Spirit dwelling in the Man Named Jesus [the] Christ, Who said He doesn't speak on His Own but is the FATHER that dwells IN HIM.
Ephesians 4:13
Till we all come in the unity of the FAITH and of the KNOWLEDGE of the Son of God, unto a PERFECT MAN, unto the MEASURE OF THE STATURE of the FULLNESS OF CHRIST.
Colossians 2:8-10
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after CHRIST.
For IN HIM [Christ] DWELLS ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY.
And you are COMPLETE IN HIM, which is the HEAD OF ALL PRINCIPALITY and POWER.
Ephesians 1:19
And what is the EXCEEDING GREATNESS OF HIS POWER to us-ward who believe, according to the WORKING OF HIS MIGHTY POWER which HE WROUGHT IN CHRIST, when HE raised Him from the dead and set Him at HIS own right hand in the heavenly places, far above ALL PRINCIPALITY and POWER and MIGHT and DOMINION, and EVERY NAME THAT IS NAMED, NOT ONLY IN THIS WORLD, BUT ALSO IN THAT WHICH IS TO COME.
2 Corinthians 5:17-19,21
[17] Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
[18] And ALL THINGS ARE OF GOD, who hath RECONCILED US TO HIMSELF BY JESUS CHRIST, and hath given to us THE MINISTRY OF RECONCILIATION;
[19] To wit, that GOD WAS IN CHRIST, RECONCILING THE WORLD UNTO HIMSELF, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.
[21] For HE HATH MADE HIM TO BE SIN FOR US, who knew no sin; THAT WE MIGHT BE MADE THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF GOD IN HIM.
John 2:19
Jesus answered and said unto them, “Destroy this temple (His BODY) and in three days “I” WILL RAISE IT UP.”
Revelation 15:3-4
And they sing the song of Moses the servant of GOD and the song of the LAMB saying, “GREAT and MARVELOUS are YOUR WORKS, LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. JUST and TRUE and YOUR WAYS, YOU KING of saints. Who shall not fear YOU, O LORD, and glorify YOUR NAME? For YOU ALONE are HOLY. For all nations shall come and worship before YOU, for YOUR JUDGMENTS are MADE MANIFEST.
Revelation 14:1
And I looked, and lo, a LAMB stood on the Mount Zion and with Him a hundred and forty and four thousand, having HIS FATHER’S NAME written in their foreheads.
John 5:43
“I AM COME IN MY FATHER’S NAME, and you receive Me not. If another shall come in his own name, him you will receive.” “How can you believe, which receives honor one of another, and not seek the honor that comes from GOD ONLY?”
Revelation 14:7
Saying with a loud voice, “Fear GOD and give glory to HIM, for the hour of HIS JUDGMENT is come. And worship HIM that MADE heaven and earth, and the sea and the fountains of water.
Revelation 22:13
“I AM ALPHA and OMEGA, the BEGINNING and the END. The FIRST and the LAST.”
Revelation 1:8
I AM ALPHA and OMEGA, the BEGINNING and the ENDING,” says the LORD, WHICH IS and WHICH WAS, and WHICH IS TO COME, THE ALMIGHTY.
Revelation 21:7
He that overcomes shall inherit all things and I WILL BE HIS GOD, and he shall be MY SON.
Ephesians 4:4-7
There is ONE BODY, ONE SPIRIT, even as you are called in ONE HOPE of your calling, ONE LORD, ONE FAITH, ONE BAPTISM, ONE GOD AND FATHER OF ALL, WHO is ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH all and IN you all. But unto every one of us is GIVEN GRACE according to the MEASURE OF THE GIFT of CHRIST.
EPHESIANS 3:14-19
For this cause I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord JESUS CHRIST, of Whom the WHOLE FAMILY in HEAVEN AND EARTH is NAMED, that He would grant you, according to the riches of HIS GLORY, to be strengthened with might BY HIS SPIRIT in the inner man; that CHRIST may dwell in your hearts BY FAITH, that you being ROOTED AND GROUNDED in love, may be able to COMPREHEND WITH ALL SAINTS what is THE BREADTH, AND LENGTH, AND DEPTH, AND HEIGHT; and TO KNOW the LOVE OF CHRIST, which PASSES ALL KNOWLEDGE, that you MIGHT BE FILLED WITH ALL THE FULLNESS OF GOD.
Haven't you understood: he is in the Father and the Father is in him? There MUST BE TWO for one to be in the other!
Go back to Scripture and jump ahead to conclude as Scripture does: the Father and his Son are two, not one and the same person: 'I will be to him a Father and he shall be to me a Son' Hebrews 1:5.
In the Old Testament covenant commandments there Was Only One God: You shall have no other gods/elohim before ME.', 'I am the LORD your God/Elohim/Gods who have brought you out of the land of Egypt out of the house of bondage.' Exodus 20:3,2.
Even 1st Corinthians 10:4 'the Christ was the Rock which followed them' ? : 'they drank of the spiritual Rock which followed them and that Rock was Christ' 1st Corinthians 10:4.
The LORD God was the Elohim [Gods] who brought Israel out of Egypt, not to include the Christ, 1st Corinthians 10:4.
1st Corinthians 2:11b shows the Spirit of God is a man, spirit of man, who is within God's God uncreated material Spirit man body John 8:17-18's teaching, and knows (Greek, knows but not by experience: knows because he 'searches all things yes the deep things of God' 1st Corinthians 2:10 [so isn't God who would know the things of God, knows all things]) . The Holy Spirit of God is separate from God the Father and the Son.
@Asaph Vapor 1st Corinthians 2:11b parallel with 1st Corinthians 2:11a: as the spirit of man is a man within his man and knows (Greek, knows but not by experience; searches all things of his man as does the Spirit of God searches in God 1st Corinthians 2:9-10);
even so No Man knows (Greek, knows but not by experience; searches all things yes the deep things of God within his man's body, God's material body, as the spirit of man does within his man's material body 1st Corinthians 2:11a) except the Spirit of God within his man's material body.
But it's not only 1st Corinthians 2:11b which shows that God is separate from himself, but even from Genesis 6:3 'my Spirit shall not always strive with man' verily God is not saying himself; Isaiah 48:16 'the LORD God and his Spirit have sent me' showing two so a plural verb, the prophet also writing as they are two.
While the God of Israel is Holy Leviticus 11:44, and a Spirit John 4:24 the term/phrase God the Holy Spirit is never shown in use. The Holy Spirit is shown as the Holy Spirit OF GOD, not God the Holy Spirit, John 14:26, whom the Father will send in Jesus' name. Acts chapter 2 verses 17-18 quoting from Joel 'I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh', 1st Corinthians 2:11b more closely shows the definite separation between God and his inner Spirit of man. Maybe that's why Paul said 'Jesus Christ who abolished death has brought immortality and life to light through the gospel' 2nd Timothy 1:10.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 I say this with all due respect, you are not interpreting correctly and your understanding is of deception.
In only a few verses I can can show you there is Only ONE GOD, the FATHER. I can give you a ton of Scripture but without being too wordy, these get the message across loud and clear
He IS the Holy Spirit and IN the Son. There is Only One Spirit and He is it, and believers have the Spirit of Christ dwelling in them. It's all the SAME, ONE, ONLY GOD. Just One Person! Not three rattling around in the Man.
Ephesians 4:6
ONE GOD and FATHER
OF ALL, WHO IS ABOVE ALL, and THROUGH ALL, and IN YOU ALL.
Romans 8:9-10
But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the SPIRIT OF GOD dwell in you. Now if any man have not the SPIRIT OF CHRIST, he is none of HIS.
And if CHRIST BE IN YOU, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
1 Timothy 3:16
And without controversy GREAT IS THE MYSTERY OF GODLINESS. GOD [Ephesians 4:6] was MANIFEST IN THE FLESH, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Where's the **MYSTERY** if it was the second person of the Godhead?! And since Mary was conceived by The Holy Spirit, shouldn't the third person of the Godhead be his Father? So does Jesus have two Fathers? You make it so complicated and yet it is SO easy to understand GOD is ONLY ONE. He is the Holy Spirit. He is Omniscient, Omnipotent, Omnipresent! He Alone.
Colossians 1:15
Who is THE IMAGE of the INVISIBLE GOD, the FIRSTBORN of every creature:
John 1:18
NO MAN HAS SEEN GOD [Ephesians 4:6] AT ANY TIME; the only BEGOTTEN SON [Son of Man], which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
Isaiah 46:9
Remember the former things of old: for I AM GOD, and THERE IS NONE ELSE; I AM GOD, and there is NONE LIKE ME.
Isaiah 44:6
[6]Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD.
Isaiah 9:6-7
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, THE EVERLASTING FATHER, The Prince of Peace.
Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with judgment and with justice from henceforth even for ever. THE ZEAL OF THE LORD OF HOSTS WILL PERFORM THIS.
Colossians 1:19
FOR IT PLEASED THE FATHER THAT IN HIM [The Man] SHOULD ALL FULLNESS DWELL;
Colossians 2:9
For IN HIM DWELLS ALL THE FULLNESS OF THE GODHEAD BODILY.
Etc., etc. Don't make it so complicated because it's really just so simple. GOD - Who is Spirit - is the Father, the Son, a Friend, the Creator, the Savior, the Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel, the Rock, the First, the Last, Alpha and Omega, ......
He is ALL IN ALL.
Three "persons" = Three "gods"
Simple addition. God became the Father when He begat the [Man] Son. He had to be FULLY GOD AND FULLY MAN!
@Asaph Vapor I thank God that I am not in heresy, I just don't agree with the Orthodoxy doctrine while I do agree with the Scriptures. Thank you.
ONE LORD----ONE GOD.
Didn't Thomas say "my lord and my God"
@@gleasonparker1684 I can address your question, and a lot MORE,
my friend---but not tonight. I am tired, and I've been conducting
Scriptural studies, off and on for Most of the day.
Thank you for your Comment.
I will try to get to you tomorrow.
GOD bless.
@@gleasonparker1684 my Lord and The Lord are different. My lord refers to humanity...The Lord refers to God. Jesus that walked the earth was my Lord and in him was The Lord. Psalms 110:1 and Matthew 22:44 The Lord says to my Lord
Romans 8: 5- 8 . If you are not spiritual your carnal
In order to help me understand oneness, whenever Jesus (the expressed image of God) was on the earth, was he not in heaven? And is the Holy Spirit a description (not a different person) of God
He was in Heaven as Spirit always. And yes
Well said!
Genesies 1:26 Then God said, “Let .......US........ make man in Our image,
Right. I’ve done some videos explaining that.
Genesis 1:27
Then God created a man in His image......not "they created a man in their image!"
@@joginahlesetja3550 this can go on forever.
@@talaverajr391 It's so confusing
@TheCabin I agreed! Oneness teaches that the word trinity is not in the Bible but it doesn’t matter if the Bible doesn’t mentions the word trinity, the Old Testament doesn’t mentions the word messiah but we call Jesus the messiah. When the Bible mentions that the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit are one, that means they’re the same in essence. They’re one YHWH but three different persons. That is why God is called Elohim. Is wrong to say that God transforms in roles because denies the deity of Christ. If the trinity doesn’t exist, then God’s eternal plan of salvation through his son is destroy. Oneness is a heresy.
Amen! 1timothy 3:16 without controversy great us the mystery of godliness; God was mainfest in the flesh.......
The accurate translation is he who manifests in the flesh
Not God who manifests
Not be argumentative.But that being said the Bible refers to the Lord Jesus 11 times on Him sitting down at the right hand of the throne?If you would please explain how that does not mean the mean God throne?I believe that God is one in three in one.God is three and one and the one in the middle die for me.I would greatly appreciate and look forward to your comment.So if because in doesn't use the word it's not true well I guess you don't believe in the rapture because the word it not in there.
I have done multiple videos on the subject on the channel. God bless!
It seems all statements of God's nature must be filtered through Deut 6:4. God makes it crystal clear how he wants us to think about him. Thanks so much!
One saviour is one messiah is one father one SPIRIT. If god was on throne and on earth he had to be omnipresent. Fullness of godhead is not part. Jesus says he will turn things back to father at end. But want Jesus always be GOD?
Its important to remember that Jesus is God manifested in flesh, so when he called God his father or prayed, he was speaking as flesh. In Matthew 26:41 Jesus said "The spirit is indeed willing but the flesh is weak" the body only is called the son of God.
It does makes some sense that God would have a name and that name would be Jesus.
Jesus prayed
"FATHER in heaven, blessed be YOUR name, YOUR Kingdon come, YOUR will be done,"
Yes, Jesus is the only proper name of those titles mentioned in Math. 28:19.
We are save by believing on the name of Jesus . Jesus says he has the same Name as the Father . We Must believe that when He said I AM HE . HE MEANT HE WAS, IS ,AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE FATHER .
Also does it really matter? As long as we all believe in Jesus and his resection. And we repent of our sins and ask him into our heart and live according to the guidelines given in the bible. Everything else should fall by the wayside!
I agree. We all make too much of a deal out of theology that, quite frankly, can’t be understood by finite, limited human beings
The problem is we can't keep the law without his Spirit, and asking Jesus into our heart doesn't mean we are filled with the Spirit from that moment on. Theology or doctrine is important because what you believe about God determines how you will serve him...it makes a world of difference...this is not small matter since we are talking about the nature of God. We can't compromise truth.
Jesus said in John 4:23 "But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
What God is composed of matters, because of the need to identify Him at his coming. I have come to believe that trins tend to not take as much responsibility for their actions when the authority of God is dispersed among their three headed God.
@@javierdelgado1554When we call on Jesus' name we have an answer quick as you please, though the fullness of it may come later
JHWH is "the beginning and the end" in the OT, Jesus ist "the beginning and the end" (besides me there are no other Gods) in the NT. JHWH is the "I AM" in the OT, Jesus is the "I AM" in the NT. Is Jesus a blasphemer or a liar? JHWH is the "Word" in the OT, Jesus ist the "Word" in the NT. And the word was God (John 1:1). Jesus was accused of making himself godlike by the Jews, he didn't refute. Jesus is called God by Thomas, he didn't refute. God rose Jesus from the dead. In John 2 Jesus claims that he will raise himself from the dead. In my opionion, either the Bible contradicts itself, what I refuse to believe, Jesus is a blasphemer or a liar, what I refuse to believe or he is the one true God JHWH. This I accept. Blessings to all of you.
Begin at the beginning:'from everlasting' there are two Gods the God of Israel Psalm 90:2 and the Messiah Jesus Christ Micah 5:2. Because the two are 'from everlasting' each is 'I AM', Jehovah/Yahweh/LORD, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last before them there was no God formed neither shall there be after them Isaiah 43:10 applies to both of them who are 'from everlasting'.
I think God does look on the heart even though there are guidelines to follow that's why I was baptized on April 12th 1970. I had been born again in the summer of 1967. And it is taken until now to begin to understand the Oneness Doctrine which I now believe is the true statement of purpose in what God is trying to do on Earth today ..comes as a great relief.
Beloved it is not
This still confuses me
Its visible in scripture that there is oneness. Thanks for teaching this. You are the first guy that I hear that teach how I view the scripture. Its amazing how quick trinatarians are to brand other believers as heretics that believe the ALMIGHTY FATHER SON AND SPIRIT is ONE. I read the book of JOB and saw how many times he referred to the ALMIGHTY as EL or ELOAH which is singular. In JOB 38 the ALMIGHTY replies back and the question in now who was it? The FATHER or the SON. It was YHVH (I am) who answered him. In Zechariah 14 YHVH (I am) says he will return (second coming) to the mount of Olives. Who promised in the new testament HE will return to the mount of Olives. The SON said HE will return so the SON is YHVH from the old testament and HE IS THE ALMIGHTY!! FATHER, SON, SPIRIT are titles but the ALMIGHTY had just one NAME and variations of that ONE name.
When the Bible mentions that the Father, the son and the Holy Spirit are one, that means they’re the same in essence. They’re one YHWH but three different persons. That is why God is called Elohim. Is wrong to say that God transforms in roles because denies the deity of Christ. If the trinity doesn’t exist, then God’s eternal plan of salvation through his son is destroy. Oneness is a heresy.
The Bible doesn't call God a "they"...three persons but one essence is also not found in scripture....three persons who share the same being or essence still equals three and not one...you can't say you believe in one God and say the three persons are all God...it's a contradiction. God bless.
I think the issue is man's inability to comprehend God. We want black and white conclusive answers, but for whatever reason, the bible doesn't always offer that. When we can't reconcile the apparent inconsistencies of the bible, we often just pick a side and disregard evidence for other perspectives in order to have closure.
The bible says God is one, and that Jesus and God are one, but it also testifies of some uniqueness within the roles of God, but the roles are all still fulfilled by the same one God. It's hard to wrap our minds around it. It's like being told that an apple is an orange but also still an apple. But regardless of our ability to comprehend that contradiction, if it were true, it would be true nonetheless.
Let me flesh this out a bit, please bear with me... Our imperfection and sin make it impossible for us to commune with God because unholiness cannot dwell with holiness (Psalm 5:4), so if we want to commune with God, then we must be holy. But the wages of sin is death and we have a sin debt against us, so if we don't pay that, who will? God demands a sacrifice without blemish, but there is none good except the Father (Psalm 53, Mat 19:17), so God has no candidate for that sacrifice other than Himself. Alright, here we go... So God, who is perfect, left heaven while also remaining in heaven (and also everywhere), to go to Earth and become sin (2 Cor 5:21), while still remaining holy, and then poured out His own judgement onto Himself, killing Himself in the process, only to then raise Himself to life again. Then, He left Earth to go back to heaven to be with Himself, where He already was, and sit at the right hand of Himself. It was better that He left earth, because if He had stayed, then He wouldn't have sent Himself to be here with us as a comforter and advocate (John 14:26, 16:7). And now, if you believe in Him, then you can be saved from His judgement because He already paid the debt you owed to Him (1 Pet 2:24).
Whew!
That's chaos. But it's also true. (Hopefully my account, while overly rigid, is still biblically accurate...)
The above is difficult to understand when it is expressed as being carried out by a single entity, and leaves out a lot of complexity that takes place in various stages. But if you characterize every action as being carried out by a different entity, then you obscure the fact that the whole concept and execution of the plan for redemption was carried out by the one holy God. The video here makes a good point to state that God's omniscience can easily be blurred into assuming multiple God personalities. Where is the line? If the bible doesn't make that line crystal clear, then who are we to try to extrapolate a crisp conclusion?
My point is this: Elements of God's expansive character will be misrepresented, diluted, or lost if they are oversimplified or overcomplicated. The desire for closure on a topic does not permit the dismissal or minimizing of some passages in favor of others in order to make a concept more digestible. The bible's a tough document. But we can either let that create factions and divisions, or we can use it to drive us deeper into the bible, not to prove to one another who is the most learned, but to show ourselves approved unto God, rightly dividing the word of truth (2 Tim 2:15). Some arguments are a waste of time because they are plainly explained in scripture. But I think the bigness of God makes it so that the answer so some questions is often not all that simple. If an age-old argument has still not been put to rest, then it seems likely that the answer contains elements of both sides, and it will never comfortably fit into one side or the other. "It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter." (Proverbs 25:2) Praise the Lord for this, because it has driven me to be hungrier for the Word and to seek it out like never before. Still a long way to go though!
Thanks, Pastor Waldron, for your studiousness and your willingness to share on this platform.
Thats too confusing. Here let me simplify it for you: 1=1, 1=2, 1=3, 3=1, 2=1, ...There. Do you Understand now?.
Lol😂👍People. God is
MYSTERY.
to us humans. We will NOT understand this mystery of Father, Son, Holy Spirit.
Amen Pastor!!! Thankful for a POWERFUL teaching!!! Not sure why Trinitarians ignore so much scripture in the Old Testament.
Gal 3:24 says the Old Testament is a school master that leads us th Christ.
Det 4:35,39, 6:4, 32:39.
ISH 43:10-11, 44:8,24 , 45:5-6 ,
I could literally go on and on with scripture from the Old Testament. Another thing... Col 1:15 - Invisible image of God? 1 Tim 3:16 - God was manifest in the flesh?
I used to be Trinitarian as well but God opened up my eyes and my heart through revelation from scripture. There is so much scripture towards a One God Diety by a landslide.
Blessed for this video! Praying for you pastor!
Thank you John. It is most assuredly a revelation. " It's easier to fool someone than convince they've been fooled. " -Mark Twain
Without a revelation they just CAN'T see it.
I'm Oneness and I'm still getting new revelation about the Oneness as I speak... it's really been an eye opener for me...to know that God the Father came in human flesh to show us the way the truth and the life..."And this life is in his Son." God bless
Old Covenant Baptism vs. New Covenant Baptism (water vs. Spirit)
Water baptism was a part of the Old Covenant system of ritual washing. The Old Covenant priests had to wash before beginning their service in the temple. (Ex. 30:17-30) When Christ was water baptized by His cousin John in the Jordan River, He was under the Old Covenant system. He also only ate certain foods, and wore certain clothes, as prescribed by the 613 Old Covenant laws. Christ was water baptized by John and then the Holy Spirit came from heaven. (Acts 10:38) The order is reversed in the New Covenant. A person receives the Holy Spirit upon conversion, and then believers often declare their conversion to their friends and family through a water baptism ceremony. Which baptism makes you a member of Christ’s Church?
The New Covenant conversion process is described below. (Born-again)
Eph 1:12 That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
Eph 1:13 In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
(A person must “hear” the Gospel, and “believe” the Gospel, and will then be “sealed” with the Holy Spirit.)
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
(See Jer. 31:34 for the New Covenant promise, and 1 John 2:27 for the fulfillment)
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Which baptism is a part of the salvation process, based on what the Bible says?
What did Peter say below?
Acts 11:15 And as I began to speak, the Holy Ghost fell on them, as on us at the beginning.
Acts 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
Based on Luke 3:16, and John 1:33, and Acts 11:15-16, the most important thing about the word "baptize" in the New Testament has nothing to do with water. The Holy Spirit is the master teacher promised to New Covenant believers in Jeremiah 31:34, and John 14:26, and is found fulfilled in Ephesians 1:13, and 1 John 2:27. Unfortunately, many modern Christians see water/ every time they read the word "baptize" in the text.
Based on the above, what is the one baptism of our faith found in the passage below? How many times is the word "Spirit" found in the passage, and how many times is the word "water" found in the passage?
Eph 4:1 I therefore, the prisoner of the Lord, beseech you that ye walk worthy of the vocation wherewith ye are called,
Eph 4:2 With all lowliness and meekness, with longsuffering, forbearing one another in love;
Eph 4:3 Endeavouring to keep the unity of the Spirit in the bond of peace.
Eph 4:4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;
Eph 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, (See 1 Cor. 12:13)
“baptize” KJV
Mat_3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:
Mar_1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Mar 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. (Water or Holy Spirit?, See Eph. 1-13.)
Luk_3:16 John answered, saying unto them all, I indeed baptize you with water; but one mightier than I cometh, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to unloose: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and with fire:
Joh_1:26 John answered them, saying, I baptize with water: but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not;
Joh_1:33 And I knew him not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said unto me, Upon whom thou shalt see the Spirit descending, and remaining on him, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
1Co_1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. (See Eph. 4:1-5)
Heb 9:10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. (Old Covenant ----> New Covenant)
How many people have been saved by the Old Covenant water baptism of John the Baptist?
Who did John the Baptist say is the greatest Baptist that ever lived in Luke 3:16? What kind of New Covenant baptism comes from Christ?
Hebrews 9:10 Old Covenant vs. New Covenant
(ESV) but deal only with food and drink and various washings, regulations for the body imposed until the time of reformation.
(Geneva) Which only stood in meates and drinkes, and diuers washings, and carnal rites, which were inioyned, vntill the time of reformation.
(GW) These gifts and sacrifices were meant to be food, drink, and items used in various purification ceremonies. These ceremonies were required for the body until God would establish a new way of doing things.
(KJV) Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation.
(KJV+) Which stood onlyG3440 inG1909 meatsG1033 andG2532 drinks,G4188 andG2532 diversG1313 washings,G909 andG2532 carnalG4561 ordinances,G1345 imposedG1945 on them untilG3360 the timeG2540 of reformation.G1357
(NKJV) concerned only with foods and drinks, various washings, and fleshly ordinances imposed until the time of reformation.
(NLT) For that old system deals only with food and drink and various cleansing ceremonies-physical regulations that were in effect only until a better system could be established.
(YLT) only in victuals, and drinks, and different baptisms, and fleshly ordinances-till the time of reformation imposed upon them .
The Oneness of GOD is CRYSTAL CLEAR within Scripture.
Ray, The Trinity is indeed Biblical
@@jeffreyandrewwinters3719 My friend, history reveals, it was
the ancient, Roman Catholic religion that started this doctrine;
They, in turn, borrowed from Greek mythology.
Well here's where I think you're wrong pastor on your second statement you said that God the Father, while maintaining his throne in heaven was also Jesus Christ the son. You're not understanding the Trinity doctrine, God the father is not God the son, as you can clearly see in scripture Jesus prays to God the Father, but you said that God the father was Jesus as well that's false. Jesus is distinct from God the Father he prays to God the Father, however God himself is Father Son and Holy Spirit, he's all three of them but yet even though they are distinct from one another they are all three of the one God. Jesus says I and the father one he's not saying saying that he is the father of the father is him, he saying that I and the father are one meaning we are one in nature and essence, what that means is that God is an eternal spirit we can see this clearly in John 4:24, and Jesus is saying he shares the same nature and essence as God the Father which is an eternal spirit. Scripture says unanimously that God is unchanging this is what essence and nature means a the unchanging and unchangeable nature of something which is necessary to its being. So what I'm saying is just because God took on human flesh it does not change who he is, just because he is the son does not mean since the son is distinct from the father does not mean that Jesus Christ himself is not God. So let's see if I drew a circle okay if I drew a circle, like on one side of a paper does the circle change no what is it? still a circle, location is an accidental trait of a circle, but was the circle still a circle yes. That's exactly how the three persons of the Trinity are just because God is an eternal spirit, his nature in essence don't change because he is these three persons even though they are all three distinct from one another he does not change.
This video sure stirred the pot
Why would he make it sound like 3 if theres only one
The finite trying to
comprehend the infinite.
God(Father) spoke from essence of his being (Holy Spirit) a Word(Jesus) to become flesh to the effect that
God would save mankind according to His oath(spoken promise)
God has given his personal word Matthew 4:4, 2nd Timothy 3:16.
God wants us to communicate with him with sincerity and truth.
So, Given his word written and his judging man by his written word it makes sense to avail ourselves of it to be aware of his truths by which he judges man, male and female.
The more you know the more you can know to not be deceived or used.
One God Psalm 90:2 [the LORD who appointed himself Father to Jesus, his appointed Son Hebrews1:5, John 8:54] saved Israel out of Egypt Exodus 13:21, 20:2-3 and the other Micah 5:2 (Jesus) saves man from the judgment of sin Matthew1:21, 25.
“Behold, God is my salvation; I will trust, and not be afraid: for the LORD JEHOVAH is my strength and my song; he also is become my salvation.”
- Isaiah 12:2 (KJV)
“And it shall be said in that day, Lo, this is our God; we have waited for him, and he will save us: this is the LORD; we have waited for him, we will be glad and rejoice in his salvation.”
- Isaiah 25:9 (KJV)
Isaiah 43 (KJV)
¹⁰ Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
¹¹ I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Isaiah 45 (KJV)
⁵ I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:
⁶ That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
Isaiah 45 (KJV)
²¹ Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
²² Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
For thy Maker is thine husband; the LORD of hosts is his name; and thy Redeemer the Holy One of Israel; The God of the whole earth shall he be called.”
- Isaiah 54:5 (KJV)
"And he saw that there was no man, and wondered that there was no intercessor: therefore his arm brought salvation unto him; and his righteousness, it sustained him.”
- Isaiah 59:16 (KJV)
“Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.”
- Isaiah 60:16 (KJV)
“Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.”
- Hosea 13:4 (KJV)
Psalms 22 (KJV)
¹⁶ For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet.
¹⁷ I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me.
¹⁸ They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture.
“And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.”
- Zechariah 11:12 (KJV)
“And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.”
- Zechariah 12:10 (KJV)
“But thou, Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.”
- Micah 5:2 (KJV)
“For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.”
- Isaiah 9:6 (KJV)
"Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.”
- Matthew 1:23 (KJV)
“And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.”
- Luke 1:47 (KJV)
“Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he hath visited and redeemed his people,”
- Luke 1:68 (KJV)
Little fun fact. Look up what the Hebrew word is that's used for "salvation" in Isaiah 12:2
@@Apostolicfaith238 Joshua or Yeshua is salvation.
@TimBo Besides, the Trinity teaching has to be found in Jesus' earthly mortal gospel accounts, as Galatians 3:15 established, 'though it be but a man's covenant if it be confirmed no man disannuls or adds to it'. Since ONLY MENTION OF THE THREE - Father, Son, Spirit - is in the gospels and Not the Three are one God, neither can it be true after Jesus' earthly mortal body death.
@TimBo if, about the Trinity teaching, the teaching is not found in Jesus' Old Testament gospel accounts 'if it be but a man's covenant if it is confirmed no man disannuls or adds to it' Galatians 3:15 that teaching is not from Scripture. Don't be afraid of them.
You great man of God. May God bless you in Jesus name.
This is a false church. Be careful of what this guy says people. He will lead you away from the bible and the true God.
"Let Us make man in Our image"....This us My Son in Whom I'm well pleased... This is My Son listen to Him.
Deuteronomy 32:39 See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
There’s no god w him
In Bible , you will never see the term Trinity at all , if you want you can check the old testament and new testament .......we can find that there is one lord in deuteronamy .....
The Godhead is Father, Word, Spirit. The term "son" does not apply until Bethlehem's manger.
@@ralphowen3367 John 3:16 He sent His Son
Why would Jesus pray to himself when he fasted 40 days. It said he was praying to his father
No doubt. A common misunderstanding among Christians of the dual nature of Jesus Christ. Human (praying) and Divine.
You on point. I remember when I first got saved. I sought the thru fasting and prayer for the understanding of trinity vs oneness. And finally after seeking God he opened my eyes to show me that its only 1 not 3 but only 1. Jesus is all .....
Amen!
It's all in Him, it's all in Him; the Mighty God is Jesus, and it's all in Him-- A Oneness hymn.
It boils down to whether we believe the Bible or a doctrine of man that is just a little over 100 years old. The Bible says in Numbers 23:19 “God is not a man, that He would lie, nor a son of man, that He would change His mind; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good?
1 Samuel 15:29 Also the Glory of Israel will not lie nor change His mind; for He is not a man, that He would change His mind.”
James 1:17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and comes down from the Father of lights, with whom there is no variation or shadow of turning.
God the Father according to the Bible would never lie or change His mind and most importantly He is not a man or a son of man. Jesus however is 100% Man and 100% God. The expression Son of Man is used 81 times in the Bible, and it never referred to God the Father only to Jesus. Peter when he answered who Jesus was replied you are the Son of the Living God, the Messiah, the Anointed One. Jesus confirmed his answer by saying flesh and blood did not reveal this to you by My Father in Heaven. If Jesus can be 100% God and Man as the Bible teaches God can be One God and 3 persons. Every word is established by two or three witnesses. God is revealed in 3 persons, God revealed it, the Son revealed it, and the Holy Spirit revealed it.
The doctrine goes back to the early Church. The trinity was never mentioned until generations after Jesus and Acts.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa do you have proof of this? It doesn't bother me that the word trinity is not in the bible, neither is the word rapture but that day is upon us. God is Holy Holy Holy yet Jesus became our sin on the cross, He cried out to His Father why have you forsaken me. For the first time in eternity the Son was separated from the Father, not from Himself. You have to add a whole lot to the text in order for people to understand your doctrine, but the Bible is not that hard to understand. If God is not in three persons, it would be impossible for God and the Holy Spirit to separate Himself from the Son but that's clearly what the Bible says. I can never agree with this Oneness doctrine. I believe your sincerely wrong friend.
Yes. I’ve given the proof in multiple videos, as well as the aforementioned authors, among many others.@@chriscurtis1578
AMEN AMEN
The father wasn’t incarcerated the eternal son was
Is there 1 Jehovah or 3? If there is 1, and all of the fulness of Jehovah was in Jesus, in what real way is there a trinity?
Please read John 14:7-11. You will see you are twisting the plain meaning of Scripture.
Why wasn’t the word trinity in use in 150 ad?
New Life Of Albany Ga. all of the divine substance was in Christ
New Life Of Albany Ga. yes, the father was in Christ through inter penetration
The Bible never says eternal son.
Meaning of God is One clearly explained in simple terms….
What does it mean when god says that he is one? Does it mean one person? Not necessarily, in all of scripture (old and new testament) god doesn’t describe himself as one person. One can mean many things. For example, the United States of America, there is only one America but it consists of multiple states. Another example is the word Family. Family is singular, but by definition it means 2 or more persons. So when the word family is used, it always implies 2 or more persons. The word god used in the Old Testament is the word ‘Elohim’, which is understood as a singular sense, but by definition it’s plurality in one. We should allow god to define what one god means. God clearly reveals himself as One god (Elohim), which consists of the father, the son, and the Holy Spirit, and that there is no other god besides this god which he has revealed. Just as when you say there is only one family (multiple persons) living on that street, when god says he is one god (Elohim), by definition it’s plurality in one, and as he has clearly revealed the plurality within the one is the father, son, and Holy Spirit, Or in the Old Testament as Lord, another lord or angel of the lord, and spirit of the lord/god. When we hear the word one applied to god we mistakenly assume one person, when this is not how god defines himself in the Bible.
Plus on top of that, the word one used in Deuteronomy 6:4 is the word ‘Echad’ which can mean compound unity. Echad is the same word used in genesis 2:24, a man and his wife shall become one (Echad) flesh. 2 become one. The father, son, and holy spirit are in perfect eternal unity.
Read the below statement again in light of the Hebrew words used and in light of all of god’s revelation of himself in scripture, and who god is should be crystal clear….
Deuteronomy 6:4 “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God (Elohim - plurality in one), the Lord is one (Echad - compound unity)!”
God, in almost every instance describes or is described as One Person. A He not a they. Don’t get lost in the trees. Don’t overthink things. He is described as One several thousands of times, plural terms less than 10, most say less than 5. The less is always subject to the greater. Your entire post is filled with falsehoods which I have debunked constantly on the channel. I normally delete lengthy posts, see description box, but not here. And I never debate in the comment section.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa He and I simply refers to the one god. The father is the same god yahweh, the son is the same god yahweh, and the Holy Spirit is the same god yahweh. He and I is what we would expect. Your argument about he vs they would work if god described himself as 3 gods or 3 beings, but that is not what we believe. Like I previously stated, we should let the Bible reveal who god is. If you cannot logically grasp the complexity of god, don’t read into the Bible. You still cannot prove that god is one person. Sorry, but He and I doesn’t prove it.
@@saycheese6773 So God is a He , not a they. Good to hear you say that. See you my friend!
Pastor, how do you reconcile Genesis 1 where the Lord says, “let us make man in our image”? Does this not speak to the truth of God being a communion of persons? And what about John 14, when Jesus says “I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever”? If Christ were the Father, why would he need to ask the Father to send the Holy Ghost? And what about 1 John 5:7 (which I don’t believe belongs there, but you, since you use the KJV, do)?
I’ve done a video with 9 different explanations, and did one recently with what I think. And I’ve done an online Bible Commentary on Genesis as well. And I don’t have time to get links, I wish I did. God bless!
And I’ve done multiple vids on 1 John 5:7
Another - allos - another of the same kind. Then Jesus said He would not leave them orphanos, Fatherless, He would come to them.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa Hello Pastor Steve... ruclips.net/video/ZbIUNVCjmeE/видео.html
David Figueroa read Gen 1:27 scripture reconciles it’s self. Read 1 John 5:7 in the RSV.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJVS
[16] And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Roman church prays trinity you got to question it . 3 Gods if you believe the father is not the son the son is not the holy spirit they are three Gods separate but a family. Why is the trinity symbols used in witch craft. Many times the Bible mentioned repent and be baptized in the name of the lord Jesus Christ. Look up verses about baptism I believe it only says baptize in the name of the father son and Holy Ghost once who is the name is it Jesus?
Acts 4:12, Luke 24:47, Colossians 3:17
“This is my son” this is two persons
So your God is polytheistic
No what are you talking about
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa The Trinity is One God in 3 Separate Persons, see my other comments
@@jeffreyandrewwinters3719 three separate people is 3 different people . God is all one oneness is not 3 gods . Trinity is not biblical church's . They are all 3 one god .
@@amberwalters9613 No offense but I think you misunderstand, The Trinity is One God in 3 seperate persons who exist simultaneously, see my other comments
One > Three.
It is unique , unchanged, unborn, no higherarchy or comparison. This is why I prefer one.
If you want to know the mystery of the Godhead, this is what the Lord have revealed to me in the scriptures. Far too long people have not understand the God we serve, so this is the message to open up your eyes. He that hath an ear, let him hear!
Mark 12:28-32 KJV
28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Isaiah 35:4-6 KJV
4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Luke 2:11 KJV
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE SAVIOUR AND ONE LORD AND JESUS CHRIST IS HE.
Matthew 11:2-6 KJV
2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see:
5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
Isaiah 45:21-23 KJV
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord ? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. ref. John 1:1-2, 14, John 8:42, ref. Isaiah 55:11 KJV
Philippians 2:10-11 KJV
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
John 1:1-2, 14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJV
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Psalms 62:7 KJV
In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.
Hosea 13:4, 9 KJV
4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
5 O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.
1 Corinthians 10:1-4 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
2 John 1:3, 7 KJV
3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
1 John 5:1
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
With that said, Jesus Christ is our Lord but he is subject to the Father, for the head of Christ is God. The spirit which is Christ manifested itself in the flesh, so the man was not God, but the Spirit in him, that was our Lord and our God. We do not have two God, only one. When we say Jesus Christ is Lord, that is to the glory of the Father, for he was the one occupying that body...It is a mystery. Not every one will get it.
Colossians 1:19 KJV
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Matthew 28:19 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
That was all God. He is the Father who created all things things. God was manifest in flesh, working in a body bearing the title Son, and when he was glorified, bear the title Holy Ghost. That is all God. God sent the Son which was his own Word behold as of the only begotten of the Father. For Jesus said,
John 7:29 KJV
But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.
John 8:42 KJV
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Isaiah 55:11 KJV
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. ref. Isaiah 45:22-23
JESUS WAS THAT WORD! By honouring the Son even as we honour the Father according to John 5:23 is not a sin because you're giving glory and honour to the one he proceeded forth and came from. The Father never died, the flesh died, which was and is the Son of God.
John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And remember, the preaching of the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:36
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: THE SECOND MAN IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN.
Ephesians 4:5-6 KJV
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
This is a message for the people of God, Jesus Christ is God, again, I say Jesus Christ is God. Look to him and be ye saved.
And as concerning you, Trinitarians, the Trinity is a lie, your doctrine is a myth! This is a true saying,
there is one God and none other but he!
Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Isaiah 44:24 KJV
Thus saith the Lord , thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
The Trinity is a lie!
You may have a controversy with what I just stated,
But be ye angry and sin not.
Read all that I have said, afterward, it is your right to agree, or to disagree.
Nevertheless, I pray that God may open up your understanding and reveal the truth of his Son in you.
1 John 5:7-10
For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.
He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.
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Now, get wisdom and understanding.
The Father bears record in heaven of his Son which is the Word, and the Word bears record because it proceeded out of the mouth of God and was made flesh here on earth testifying of his Father.
The Holy Ghost bear record in heaven becasue it was prophecied by the Word which came out from the mouth of the Father which is in heaven and said that he will pour out his Spirit upon all flesh in Joel 2:28 & Acts 2:16.
The Word which was made flesh is beheld as of the only begotten of the Father according to John 1:14.
He is not a second person in the Godhead because he came forth from the one God.
Now I'm not a modalist, neither do I believe that Jesus is the Father, but that he is the Son of the Father and he is seated at the right hand of power according to 2 John 1:3 and Luke 22:69
Moreover,
The Spirit, the water, and the blood bear witness here on earth because John saw the Spirt of God descending upon Jesus Christ in the bodily shape of a dove,
Saying,
this is my beloved Son in whom I am well pleased.
That was the Father declaring and bearing witness to his Son Jesus Christ which is, and which was, and is to come, the Almighty according to Revelation 1:8
Do you get me?
This is a mystery, and I pray that God opens your understanding and knowledge of the scripture
that ye err not therein.
Moreover, brethren, according to John 4:24 God is a Spirit and He was, and is, that same Spirit that bear witness on earth.
Now the blood and water bears witness also,
for when that Jesus was pierced in his side forthwith there came out blood and water according to John 19:34,
fulfilling the word of God spoken of the prophets,
saying,
the Messiah, which is Christ, would come, to carry out the will of his Father declaring the word of truth,
becoming a light unto the Jews and Gentiles;
the salvation for his people and a stumbling block
and a rock of offense to others.
Afterward, it behoved Christ to suffer being crucified,
he die, was buried, and resurrected from the dead by the power of his Father according to Luke 24:46
This is a true saying, brethren, there is no knowledge
of God nor truth in the land.
Many false prophets and antichrists have gone into the world polluting the gospel.
(For it is the power of God unto salvation, and the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ according to Romans 1:16 and Luke 24:46)
But thanks be to God, upon this rock, even the foundation, is the Lord's body, which is the church, established.
Be not deceived nor be carried away by every wind of doctrine for many have succumbed to falsehood and idolatry.
Moreover, the world is plagued by many false prophets
plagued with seducing spirits,
deceiving others and being deceived themselves.
As it is written, For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and Lords many,)
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. 1 Corinthians 8:5-7
And again, I say, there is but one God and none other but he according. to Mark 12:28-32
And remember honoring the Son even as you honour the Father aligns with scripture according to John 5:23
And remember, again, I say, the Word proceeded forth out of the mouth of God and was made Flesh by his power according to John 1:14 That's why Jesus was one with the Father even before the world was.
Not that he was a separate and distinct person from the Father, but he was one, sigular, with the Father from the begining, even before the world was established according to John 1:1-4, 10-14; John 16:26-28; John 17:5-8
Jesus is the Word that was made flesh.
God sent the Word, which is his Son, which came out from him, into the world that we might live through him for this life is in his Son according to 1 John 4:9, 1 John 5:11, John 3:16-17
To get wisdom and understanding of the Word, refer to Isaiah 45:22-23
Philippians 2:8-11
Acts 10:36-44
And when you believe, according as it is written,
then shall the Holy Ghost, which is the power and spirit of God endued on high shall rain upon you. Amen.
Again, I say unto you, not once, yea, twice, that Jesus is the Christ the Son of the living God and he is not a second person in the Godhead.
Jesus is the Word of God manifested in the flesh, which came forth from God and has gone back to the Father according John 16:28. He was made flesh and God was working through him according to 2 Corinthians 5:19
Brethren,
be not confounded to the spirit of error,
But be of good cheer,
and not having a mere zeal of God only,
but being clothed in the garments of righteousness, knowledge, and understanding of God, abiding in his word
and having an ear to hear the declaration of his word.
Verily, verily, I say unto you, it is in a man's nature to fight against that which he hath no understanding.
But truly I say unto you that the Spirit is He whom teacheth, and guide a sincere heart into all truth.
Blessed is he whom God the Father hath revealed the Spirit of truth, even his Son, by whom also he made the worlds:
for he is the brightness of his glory,
the express image of his person, declared to be the Son of God with power and the image of the invisible God.
Peace be unto you. God bless you and glory be unto the Lord God Almighty who abideth for ever. Amen.
@Michael Green
A LOUD AMEN BROTHER
@@unwmk God was manifested in the flesh' doesn't mean God came 'in the flesh' as though the Father came in the flesh, but 'God was made known >manifested > in the flesh' 1st Timothy 3:16.
Jesus did this: he did what he saw the Father doing John 5:19, taught what the Father taught him John 8:28, said what the Father commanded him to say John 12:49, said and spoke what he heard the Father speak John 12:50, the words he spoke were the Father's words John 14:9-10: the express (exact) image of his person Hebrews 1:3, the image of the invisible God Colossians 1:15, he who have seen him have seen the Father John 14:9.
so what i want to know, is the flesh the mediator between God and man? and does the flesh of God intercede as high priest>
can anyone answer this question?
So what do u do when u run into John 1:1-18? Also Hebrews 1:1-10, Colossians 1:15-16? What about Matthew 28:19? Matthew 3:16-17?
John 14:23 where Jesus says anyone who keeps my word the Father will love him and WE will come to him and make OUR home with him?
I’ve done videos explaining almost all of the above my friend.
I am body, soul, and spirit...3 in 1 and 1 in 3...and I was made in the image of God. Do you believe you have the ability to be 3 in 1 and 1 in 3...but God doesn't??? God says that a man and woman will come together and become one. Paul says we are all one in the body of Christ. Its all through bible...many different times God has expressed that his desire is for many to be one in mind and purpose...that is the very nature of his own being. I'm sorry you cant understand that.
John 17:20-21 King James Version (KJV)
20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
Does Jesus prayer in John 17 sound like he's talking to himself to you??? How do you "rational lies" it???
(KJV) Matthew 26:28, Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38, 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:47-48, 19:2-5, Matthew 3:14-15, 1st Peter 3:20-21, Romans 6:3-5, Galatians 3:27, John 3:3, 3:5, 3:7, 1st John 5:8, 1st Corinthians 6:11, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:41, Isaiah 9:6, (Psalm 23:1, John 10:9, 10:11, 10:14), (Isaiah 12:2-3, John 4:10-14, 7:38), (Psalm 46:10, Mark 4:39), (John 1:1, 1:14), 10:30, 12:45, 14:6-7, 14:9, 20:28, Acts 20:28, 1st John 5:7, 1st Timothy 3:16, Colossians 1:15-16, 2:9, 2nd Corinthians 5:19, Colossians 3:17, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:17, Acts 2:4, 2:39, 1st Corinthians 14:39, John 17:17..
(John 12:46, James 1:17)
Praise the Lord.
But you are misrepresenting the use of "ONE" in these verses. I am "One" with my wife, but it has nothing to DO with NUMERICAL VALUE. I am "One" with GOD'S word, but it has nothing to DO with a MULTIPLICITY
...of "Persons." Someone could ( Philosophically) say, "I'm ONE WITH THE UNIVERSE," but it has ZERO to DO with some NUMERICAL VALUE of. "PERSONS."
Besides, Jesus is simply proclaiming his LOVE and OBEDIENCE to his FATHER. And by the way-- Jesus refers to GOD as not ONLY his FATHER, but--HIS GOD.
Read Matt. 28:18, which totally CONTRADICTS vs. 19. Verse 19 is a
CORRUPTED verse that was Altered from its ORIGINAL wording.
If you STUDY this, you will NOT find that formula ANYwhere ELSE in scripture. Every ELSE the Apostles say to pray "IN THE NAME OF JESUS," or, "...IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.:
Any HONEST theologian will TELL you that Matt.28:19, along with 1 John 5:7 were "Tampered" with. The Original scripture reads DIFFERENTLY, and has NOTHING to DO with a " Trinity."
Why did Christ CONTINUALLY SAY things like, "I can do NOTHING on
My Own," and, "I only do the WORK my Father GIVES me," and, "I only speak the Words my FATHER Gives me," and, "I do the WILL of my FATHER," and, "The FATHER is GREATER than I..."
I repeat--"...the FATHER is GREATER than I."
Read John 5:19, 30. Jesus himSELF proclaims that he can do NOTHING by himSELF. Mark 10:18 says, "Why do you call ME good--only the FATHER is good. (Paraphrased). Read verse 27. Read Mark 10:40. Read verse 45. Check out Mark 11:22. Christ told Peter to "have Faith in GOD (the FATHER). He didn't point to himSELF.
John 17: 20, 22, 23b. Does GOD "Pray: to HIMSELF?
John 18:11. Who "Gave" WHO, "The CUP to DRINK?"
Acts 1:7. Who "...Set the TIMES and DATES...?"
According to John 17:3, WHO is the "ONE TRUE GOD?" Look at vs. Four:
Who gave WHO the "Work to do..?" Also, Vs.'s 6--10.
Read Phil.2:6--11. Let's read it CAREfully: Verse 6 CLEARLY STATES Christ, in fact, did NOT "Consider EQUALITY with GOD something TO BE GRASPED." And the word "NATURE," here simply refers to the Spirit of GOD dwelling WITHIN Jesus (Read Acts 10: 38,40, 42).
Verse 8 CLEARLY declares Jesus as a man who, "...became OBEDIENT unto DEATH." Check out Vs. 9. Who Exalted WHO? And Vs. 11 CAPS it all OFF. "To the GLORY of...WHO?
Phil.3:21. Whose "POWER ENABLES" Christ? Col.1:3 totally EXPLAINS Col. 2:9. And Col.2: 9 is explained by Acts 10:38.
I could go on and on-- but ASK yourself; just What/Who ARE these "3 Persons?" Just how many Holy Spirits do you BELIEVE in?
Is EACH Person HOLY?
Is EACH Person Eternal?
Is EACH Person ALL KNOWING?
Is EACH Person SPIRIT?
QUESTION: How many ALMIGHTY, ETERNAL "Persons" do you BELIEVE in?
There IS but ONE GOD-- therefore-- there can BE only ONE Literal HOLY SPIRIT.
Do you DENY--or AFFIRM?
My friend, this ENTIRE doctrine was FOISTED upon the World 2-3 hundred years AFTER the LAST word of Revelations was penned.
And it BEGAN with PHILO, who was nothing more than a PHILOSOPHER.
Then, down the road, an ancient denomination we know as, the Roman Catholic church, began to emerge. THAT is where we see ALL THOSE trinitarian TERMS and termonologies begin to surfice.
Not a SINGLE Apostle or Disciple in the New Testiment is recorded as EVER using those MAN-created terms.
And keep in mind--this ENTIRE doctrine was FORMULATED over the passing of SEVERAL CENTURIES, which, by the WAY-- just happens to be...the DARK-AGES!!
Things to THINK about, my friend.
@@raygsbrelcik5578 the Trinity teaching may be false but the truth is there are two Gods, sitting beside each other the God who brought Israel out of Egypt Exodus 13:21, 20:2-3, with the God who saved Israel and all believers, from their sins Matthew 1:21 by his crucified flesh Hebrews 10:19-20.
Shawn Stephens Man was not created body, soul, spirit but as man formed of dust, man only became a soul after God [God/Elohim/Gods] breathed into man's body the breath of life and later forms the spirit of man within him Genesis 2:7a-d with Zechariah 12:1. But God is a man before any created thing, John 8:17-18's teaching the Father (God John 8:54 and Spirit John 4:24) is a man according to the law of Jesus' listeners.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 If you choose to believe in TWO
Gods, that's between you and HIM, but honestly, I really
think you should EXAMINE the Scriptures a bit CLOSER.
Ask yourself, why---if Christ is (literally) GOD, did he have
to be GIVEN, "ALL POWER and AUTHORITY," by his FATHER?
And WHY, in John 20:17, does Jesus CLEARLY refer to
GOD, as not only his "FATHER," but...his "GOD!" WHY?
And why IS it that Christ doesn't even know the "Time of
his OWN return," but GOD the FATHER DOES?
How do you ACCOUNT for all that?
And why did Jesus CONTINUOUSLY say things like, "I
only speak the words my FATHER gives me.:
How does THAT define Christ as GOD, my friend?
If we are made in the image and likeness of Almighty God, WE ARE NIT 3 persons? We are created in his image and likeness. Yhvh = Jesus Christ ( Yeshua Messiah ) .
But I find the trinity all throughout the Bible
I used to as well. Then 2 Corinthians 4:5-8 happened.
New Life Of Albany Ga. I see
@@josephjones4207, I respectfully and lovingly disagree with the pastor of New Life Of Albany Ga.because 2 Cor. 4:5-8 doesn’t nullify the Trinity; rather, it enhances the Trinity doctrine of One God eternally existing as Three distinct Persons. The emphasis in those verses mainly focused on two individuals in the Godhead: God the Father, and God the Son Jesus Christ.
"5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake. 6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. 7 But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.8 We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;"
It seems rather clear that “. . .the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ” is merely confirming that Jesus is reflecting the Father’s will: to give knowledge of Jesus's saving power as the Light. And that Light will shine in believers’ hearts-the light of the glorious gospel of salvation that will dispel the darkness of sin.
This in no way disavows the Trinity doctrine (One God eternally existing in Three Persons). Rather, it shows that Jesus is the Son of God, the second Person in the Godhead doing the will of God the Father (Jehovah).
If your made in the image of God are you one person or three!
Amen!
One in John 10:30 is plural
Says John Lennon.
That proves God is one. What are you talking about.
To be one, you have ti be the same, twins are not one although they may do everything the same, you are only one if you are exactly,pin point the same. Jesus is the same as the Father for he us the Father which is a spirit. Jesus is a spirit, and he talked to abraham, he was before abraham ever existed (JOHN 8:57)
We are not to depart from the simplicity in Christ Jesus. Acts 2.38 says baptised in name of JESUS..not Yahweh HEB. So that is good enough for me.
God of Two Testaments Brent Graves.
Amen! Great book.
Should have begun from John 1:1's definition of God in the beginning: the Word was God was made flesh as Jesus, not a true God John 17:3; the God who was with the Word 'the Word was with - at: nearby, alongside; to: looking toward, going toward - the God' became the God of Israel, who replaced himself over mankind with Jesus in that area of responsibility ONLY.
I’m trinitarian Pentecostal. I think it so sad that the Pentecostal denomination is split over the doctrine. Think about if the oneness and trinitarian Pentecostals came together. Think about the UPC and Assemblies of God USA alone. We both believe in the baptism of the Holy Ghost. The difference is we reject the denial of the Trinity. We also do not baptize in Jesus Name. Matthew 28:19. It is the authority of Jesus that baptizes us not a formula. Also, tongues is not a requirement to be saved. This oneness doctrine was started by one man who had a revelation and spread to other pastors in the Pentecostal denomination which resulted in over a 100 pastors breaking away from the Assemblies of God.
No, as I’ve shown repeatedly, it has existed from New Testament times until now.
New Life Of Albany Ga. modalism started in the 3rd century but was denounced and the trinity defended by Tertullian, Origen, and Dionysius. It lead to the development of creeds like Athanasian. What I am referring to is the history of the Pentecostal movement and why there was a split.
Bro you in error. Oneness is not denomination. Its Bible.
Curtis Bracy the Oneness and Trinitarian doctrine of the Godhead are two different doctrines within the Pentecostal denomination that caused an early split.
@@curtisbracy6406 any belief system separate from another is a denomination, full belief of those followers following the Bible teaching as they understand it.
I believe in two Gods, both from everlasting Micah 5:2, Psalm 90:2, both from the beginning John1:1 the Word and the God - during Jesus' earthly mortal life the Word was made flesh as Jesus and was not a true God, only the Father was John 17:3, but after Jesus' earthly mortal body death and resurrection to heaven begotten of God Acts13:33 Jesus was anointed Hebrews 1:9 as God Hebrews 1:8 over mankind John 5:22,27 in heaven and in earth Matthew 28:18 without the Father's judgment over him John 5:22, Ephesians 1:22-23, 1st Corinthians 15:28.
The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead, for what God would need to search all things yes the deep things of God 1st Corinthians 2:9-10 wouldn't God who knows all things not need to search the deep things of God (the Father)? But wouldn't the Holy Spirit know the deep things of God if the Holy Spirit of God is God the Holy Spirit??
The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead!!!!.....
Neither one!
Agree...whats ur belief brother
Please explain thank you!
@@remnantime3672 what's your belief? I agree there are two Gods in the beginning but the Word was God was made flesh as Jesus, became not a true [in his God uncreated material Spirit man body John 8:17-18's teaching] God John 17:3, but after his death and resurrection to heaven begotten of God Acts13:33 by God placing upon him an incorruptible and immortal body upon his mortal material body (without blood, 1st Corinthians 15:50) Luke 24:39, 2nd Corinthians 5:2,4, was anointed above his fellows Hebrews 1:9 as God on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hebrews 1:8, 1:3: John 5:22, Matthew 28:18.
The Holy Spirit of God is not God nor part of the Godhead for the Spirit searches all things yes the deep things of God 1st Corinthians 2:9-10 ; what God who knows all things would need to search all things especially the deep things of God? The Holy Spirit (of God) is not God nor part of the Godhead.
@@yvettediaztv l don't know if you have had an answer.
I, for one, believe in two Gods as the New Testament one God John 16:3, 1st Corinthians 8:6 the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ, the Father the only true God John 17:3 , and the Lord Jesus Christ who was anointed after his death and resurrection to heaven as God, sitting on the right hand of the Majesty on high Hebrews 1:3, 8.
The Holy Spirit (of God) is not God nor part of the Godhead, for what God, who knows all things, search the deep things of God to know them because he knows (Greek, knows but not by experience; but by searching all things yes the deep things of God 1st Corinthians 2:11b, 2:9-10) but not intrinsically the deep things of God. So, the Holy Spirit (of God) is not God nor part of the Godhead, except as God's spirit of man within him, called the Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11.
@@leonardodavincioso4359 thanks...i believe in 1 God who has a literal begotten son and the spirit is the life of God through His son to us...
Some SAY JESUS IS BODY . FATHER IS SOUL. AND HOLY SPIRIT IS SPIRIT..BUT ONENESS MAKES MORE SENSE. I HAVE READ BERNARD'S BOOK. CAN YOU RECOMMEND ANOTHER?
K ,.
Talmege French Our God Is One.
You can't ever argue based on whether a specific word is in the bible, because there are MANY words NOT in the scriptures.
But none of the associated words are in Scripture either, as I’ve shown ad naseum.
JESUS IS THE ONE GOD. GOD HAS A NAME.
To those honestly seeking truth.Oneness and Trinitarian came from the same stock both believe the same thing however they simply describe their understanding differently. If we as believers are to be built upon the foundation of the Apostles and Prophets (Acts 4:12) may I challenge you kindly to look at the book that records the actions of the Apostles ? The facts are in Acts the Book of Acts. If you study it out carefully with an open mind you will discover that the Apostles never one time preached that Jesus was God. Acts 2:22 starts it off 😊
Why can’t you see the trinity all throughout scripture?
Because it’s not there.
Ok
@@josephjones4207 - brother there is a Trinity, here watch this video when you have time. It's title: Clarifying the Trinity/Godhead. it's very well made and explain using only Scriptures, to prove the doctrine of the Trinity, One God, yet 3 distinct Persons. God bless and here's the link: ruclips.net/video/8CmntcV1V2E/видео.html
Because he's unsaved. A wicked deceiver, leading people to eternal hellfire, a reprobate
@@higiniomorales459 If you want to know the mystery of the Godhead, this is what the Lord have revealed to me in the scriptures. Far too long people have not understand the God we serve, so this is the message to open up your eyes. He that hath an ear, let him hear!
Mark 12:28-32 KJV
28 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?
29 And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord:
30 And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.
31 And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.
32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:
Isaiah 35:4-6 KJV
4 Say to them that are of a fearful heart, Be strong, fear not: behold, your God will come with vengeance, even God with a recompence; he will come and save you.
5 Then the eyes of the blind shall be opened, and the ears of the deaf shall be unstopped.
6 Then shall the lame man leap as an hart, and the tongue of the dumb sing: for in the wilderness shall waters break out, and streams in the desert.
Luke 2:11 KJV
For unto you is born this day in the city of David a Saviour, which is Christ the Lord.
WE ONLY HAVE ONE SAVIOUR AND ONE LORD AND JESUS CHRIST IS HE.
Matthew 11:2-6 KJV
2 Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ, he sent two of his disciples,
3 And said unto him, Art thou he that should come, or do we look for another?
4 Jesus answered and said unto them, Go and shew John again those things which ye do hear and see:
5 The blind receive their sight, and the lame walk, the lepers are cleansed, and the deaf hear, the dead are raised up, and the poor have the gospel preached to them.
6 And blessed is he, whosoever shall not be offended in me.
Isaiah 45:21-23 KJV
21 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the Lord ? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me.
22 Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else.
23 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear. ref. John 1:1-2, 14, John 8:42, ref. Isaiah 55:11 KJV
Philippians 2:10-11 KJV
10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
John 1:1-2, 14
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
2 The same was in the beginning with God.
14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
1 Timothy 3:16 KJV
16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Colossians 2:8-9 KJV
8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Psalms 62:7 KJV
In God is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength, and my refuge, is in God.
Hosea 13:4, 9 KJV
4 Yet I am the Lord thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
5 O Israel, thou hast destroyed thyself; but in me is thine help.
1 Corinthians 10:1-4 KJV
1 Moreover, brethren, I would not that ye should be ignorant, how that all our fathers were under the cloud, and all passed through the sea;
2 And were all baptized unto Moses in the cloud and in the sea;
3 And did all eat the same spiritual meat;
4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
2 John 1:3, 7 KJV
3 Grace be with you, mercy, and peace, from God the Father, and from the Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of the Father, in truth and love.
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
1 John 5:1
1 Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him.
1 Corinthians 11:3 KJV
3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
With that said, Jesus Christ is our Lord but he is subject to the Father, for the head of Christ is God. The spirit which is Christ manifested itself in the flesh, so the man was not God, but the Spirit in him, that was our Lord and our God. We do not have two God, only one. When we say Jesus Christ is Lord, that is to the glory of the Father, for he was the one occupying that body...It is a mystery. Not every one will get it.
Colossians 1:19 KJV
For it pleased the Father that in him should all fulness dwell;
Matthew 28:19 KJV
Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
That was all God. He is the Father who created all things things. God was manifest in flesh, working in a body bearing the title Son, and when he was glorified, bear the title Holy Ghost. That is all God. God sent the Son which was his own Word behold as of the only begotten of the Father. For Jesus said,
John 7:29 KJV
But I know him: for I am from him, and he hath sent me.
John 8:42 KJV
Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
Isaiah 55:11 KJV
So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. ref. Isaiah 45:22-23
JESUS WAS THAT WORD! By honouring the Son even as we honour the Father according to John 5:23 is not a sin because you're giving glory and honour to the one he proceeded forth and came from. The Father never died, the flesh died, which was and is the Son of God.
John 3:16 KJV
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. And remember, the preaching of the gospel is the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ.
Acts 2:36
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:45-47 KJV
45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: THE SECOND MAN IS THE LORD FROM HEAVEN.
Ephesians 4:5-6 KJV
5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,
6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.
This is a message for the people of God, Jesus Christ is God, again, I say Jesus Christ is God. Look to him and be ye saved.
And as concerning you, Trinitarians, the Trinity is a lie, you doctrine is a myth! This is a true saying,
there is one God and none other but he!
Deuteronomy 32:39 KJV
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand.
Isaiah 44:24 KJV
Thus saith the Lord , thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the Lord that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;
Im just curious who is Jesus talking to in the garden of gethsemane?..thanks
Humanity to Deity
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa what do u mean brother...is Jesus human or the Son of God almighty?? Thanks
(KJV) Matthew 26:28, Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38, 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:47-48, 19:2-5, Matthew 3:14-15, 1st Peter 3:20-21, Romans 6:3-5, Galatians 3:27, John 3:3, 3:5, 3:7, 1st John 5:8, 1st Corinthians 6:11, Mark 16:16, Acts 2:41, Isaiah 9:6, (Psalm 23:1, John 10:9, 10:11, 10:14), (Isaiah 12:2-3, John 4:10-14, 7:38), (Psalm 46:10, Mark 4:39), (John 1:1, 1:14), 10:30, 12:45, 14:6-7, 14:9, 20:28, Acts 20:28, 1st John 5:7, 1st Timothy 3:16, Colossians 1:15-16, 2:9, 2nd Corinthians 5:19, Colossians 3:17, Acts 22:16, Mark 16:17, Acts 2:4, 2:39, 1st Corinthians 14:39, John 17:17..
(John 12:46, James 1:17)
Praise the Lord.
I believe He was talking to His Father in heaven...
@@remnantime3672 correct: Jesus and the Father are two men, in John 8:17-18's teaching, each having his own material body with his own spirit of man within his body.
The trinity vs unitarianism debate is something which has been debated for centuries, and most christians hold to the model of God in which he is triune. I shall show how the existence of such a being is impossible, and that the only conclusion is that a unitarian God is true.
The trinity is a christian doctrine which states that there are three persons who are distinguished via opposition of relation, as the father has the constitutive property of paternity whilst the son has the constitutive property of filiation, hence we can distinguish these persons in reality via opposition of relation as this relation can be said to be a real distinction. Now, under thomism the persons of the trinity are each identical to the essence insofar as they are not really distinguished from it, meaning a property is not lacking between essence and persons as we define a distinction via lack of a property between two things. If this identity statement between the essence is absolute, then we can utilize the metaphysical account of LL which states: ∀X ∀Y ∀F(Fx Fy) -> x=y, meaning if they share all properties, then they are just identical. Applying this metaphysical account of identity to this identity statement asserted by the thomists, we can conclude that by virtue of the persons being identical to the essence, then the essence must have these intrinsic properties which they have. Meaning by virtue of being identical the father the essence has the property of paternity, and by virtue of being identical to the son the essence has the property of filiation, thus the conclusion is that the essence has both paternity and filiation, but the son lacks paternity whilst the father lacks filiation hence the identity statement between the persons and essence is invalid as a property lacked.
Not all thomists or those who posit an identity statement are speaking of an absolute statement, rather they posit a relative identity statement which uses sortals to display an identity relation. Relative identity avoids the formulation of the argument I have placed since they deny a metaphysical account of identity. However, it would appear that an appeal to RI would be trivial since the theory of RI does not negate that we can still make real distinction by usage of non-sortal predicates/attributes, so I can simply assert that the essence lacks paternity, thus a distinction in reality between essence and father and the same can be said with the other persons (essence lacks filiation, hence a distinction in reality between son and essence).
Disregarding this entire argument I have put forth, there is still an issue with making an appeal to RI under a synchronic case. The issue is that the thesis of RI does not give a metaphysical account of identity, it simply states that things are identical if they are one and the same which does not give a reason/metaphysical account as to why they are identical. So, the conclusion is that an appeal to RI under a synchronic context is incoherent as it posits a brute fact by virtue of there being no reason for this identity statement. The only way an RI theorist can avoid this issue is by applying RI to only diachronic contexts, whilst disregarding it under synchronic contexts. Meaning; young aristotle =Φ adult aristotle, where “Φ” is a sortal “human” thus it can be rewritten like this: young aristotle =(human) adult aristotle. The explanation for this relative identity statement would be time as it is under a diachronic context. The conclusion is now that RI cannot be used under synchronic contexts, unless the PSR is dismissed.
Let us hypothetically say that the trinitarian upholds the minority model of the trinity, in which a real distinction is asserted between the persons and essence. Well, the argument I have put forth above would not apply, but a more enhanced version of Ibn Sina's individuation argument would when speaking of the persons. Now, since that the persons are inseparable and under one existence, then Ibn Sina's argument cannot apply here as there is no multiplicity of Gods with their own existence. Rather, a more enhanced version of this argument which can be applied to the trinity is that the properties of the persons IE that distinguishes them, are identical to their necessary existence. If we assert the contrary (that there's a real distinction in their necessary existence) then polytheism follows, as we have a multiplicity of necessary existences (both essentially and modally). So, since these properties are identical in their necessary existence but distinguished from each other, then that which distinguishes them would have to be either possible or impossible. It obviously cannot be the latter for self-explanatory reasons, and we cannot ascribe necessity since they are identical in their existence, thus the only conclusion is to assert that its possibility, hence contingency is present. If they ask why necessity cannot be said of these attributes, then that would assume a distinction in their necessary existence hence polytheism.
This is why invite you to Islam, a unitarian God who is independent omnipotent timeless agent. Allah means 'god' in Arabic, in fact the problems of any philosophical argument can be only answered with unitarian approach.
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I would call myself a Messianic believer of Yeshua ha Mashiach (Jesus the Messiah, Jesus Christ) instead of a christian. But I would agree with your position that Jesus is the incarnation of God our Father.
Amen!
The first baptism started in the book, of Acts for hundreds of years, and then men, evil men thought them selves smarter than God.
Neither one is right, a child was born he was given power, highly exalted, power and judgement was put in his hands, the son prayed all night to his Father which is in heaven. Both Oneness and Trinitarians reject the birth of Jesus Christ by stating he always existed .
I hear that the word trinity isn't in the bible. Is the word oneness? I hear people that don't believe in the trinity but do believe in the millennium says the word trinity isn't in the bible. Is the word millennium in the bible? that type of reasoning would flunk a I.Q. test.
One is mentioned many thousands of times in relation to God, not 3.
The Bible speaks of a 1,000 year period, or a millennium. It never makes reference to something remotely relating to a trinity.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa so the word trinity, oneness and Millennium are not in the bible but the word three is in 1 John 5:7 but you may not believe in that verse.
You certainly don’t watch the channel much I assume. I’ve done multiple videos on the authenticity of 1 john 5:7.
Those 3 are 1, not agree in 1. Like your 3 in 1, but 1 Person.
And that’s one verse as opposed to thousands for one.
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa but no verses say Oneness, Millennium or Trinity so the reasoning that if a word isn't in the Bible then the subject isn't in the bible is a flawed argument. I believe there's a oneness but says we believers are one as Christ and the Father are one but I don't believe all us believers are one person or the same person I believe we are different people but are called one. So too with Christ and the Father are one. Thank you for your diligence by the way as most people who are discussing God's word turns it into a burden and takes offence to talking things over so I appreciate that process you possess as it's a missing part in modern society.
Jaymie Harris millennium means a thousand.
I run a inhouse service and there are both trinity and oneness people in the service. I just stick to terminology that is in the bible and add no terminology that's not, WE are biblest as to say we have no doctrine battles. for the Lord prayed for us to be one as He and the father are one.....
Easiest proof to the trinity in the beginning was the word and the word was God and the word was with God and the word became flesh . Why did you think they killed Jesus easy because he claimed to be the Christ who is God in the flesh
The word was God, the word was in the beginnig(God was in the beginning) and the wird was with God talks about God's character, how God is a man of his word because everything he says he does. The word became flesh because when God speaks his speech creates, so when God spoke his word into existence (the physical realm) he made the body which he dwelled within (HEBREW 10:5). God never became a human cause God never changes all he did was put on flesh as we put on clothes.Amen.Gid bless you.
Jesus is the true Tabernacle and image of the invisible God. Colossians 1:15, 2nd Corinthians 4:4, 4:6, Hebrews 1:1-3, John 12:45, 14:7-9. He was of course born of a woman and was therefore flesh but in His Spirit was the Spirit of God. 2nd Corinthians 5:19. Colossians 2:9. Psalm 22:16-18.
Matthew 28:19, Luke 24:47, Acts 2:38, 4:12, 8:12, 8:16, 10:48, 19:5, 22:16
I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.”
- Isaiah 45:23 (KJV)
“For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.”
- Romans 14:11 (KJV)
Philippians 2 (KJV)
¹⁰ That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;
¹¹ And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Isaiah 43:11
Be blessed.
The book of Isaiah is great, that's what I say a !!!
I f o u n d the oneness of God by Bernard..so will read it again. Trinity is hard to reconcile with ONE GOD. Thanks for video. 325. Was after Jesus by about 325 years and Catholic I think. Jews had bible for 1500 years and never got a trinity. As you say. Father..son..holy spirit ARE titles. JESUS is a name. YAHWEH has become Yeshua..Ex. 15.2. In original HEB.
LORD has become salvation in KJV.
I'm not here to argue about everything... but saying that 'in whom' means that God-the-Father was saying that he was "in Christ" when He said "in whom I am well pleased" is just lazy (at best) or dishonest (at worst). He's 'forgetting' that he's explaining an English word (or words) as though it was Greek. So, any time in history that any English speaker used the phrase "in whom I am...", that means they were talking about being inside the person (or persons) they mentioned in their statement. 😕
No, I’m combining in with clear statements of Scripture like John 14:9-11. The Father was in Christ.
What are your thoughts on Pastor Gino Jennings?
Good in some areas, bad in some areas. I think he adds a book to the Bible?
@@NewLifeOfAlbanyGa I was wondering where those extra books come from?
@@godschild9738 Pseudipigraphal. Not Scripture
What book was published by pearl publishing
Anyone who thinks the Oneness is what God is , is clearly someone who tries to read the bible with their own understanding , u can’t go reading the Bible with ur own naked eye , u absolutely cannot rely on ur own understanding on what u think the Bible is saying
Allow the Holy Spirit to help u understand the Bible in how it’s supposed to be read my man
God is Father , Son & Holy Spirit .. just like how u have a body , u have a soul and u have a spirit
Father , Son & Holy Spirit are all titles that represent who God is as our Creator
For all of u who truly want to understand God , here’s who He is
Father ( Creator )
Son ( The Word “ Jesus “ )
Holy Spirit ( Who He is )
These three aspects of God are not three different gods , these three aspects of God are what God is known as to His children
God bless u all
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You believe Oneness
If modalism is a heresy, then it must be a doctrine of Demons
It’s not heresy Biblically.
Who was God talking to when He said Let us make man in our image and likeness? What about the fourth man in the fire with Shadrach Meshach and Abendego? I'm curious, I want to know the truth. Thank you
Hi, I’ve got a couple of videos on the first point, and maybe I need a video on the 2nd.
Father Son and Holy Spirt..oneness is false😊
You do understand that Elohim is Plural in Hebrew and that the Gods was from the very beginning creating creation together!
A SPIRIT is a good point. Not 3 spirits. Oneness is easier to understand than trinity.
You don’t go in with a preconceived i dear. You start studying Bible and let Holy Spirit give you the understanding. You never doubt Your Heavenly Father. Every word of the Bible is true. Don’t add to the scripture. It not for private interpretation. The Holy Spirit give you the understanding. All believers will believe the same. Just like the in the Bible over 2000 years.
Do the Oneness people State a time for the birth or the beginning of the ministry of Jesus during which it may fit into the dating of Daniel 70 weeks prophecy?
Some do
New life of Albany, the Bible and the Biblical Hebrew and Greek clearly proves the trinity. People who deny the trinity, are either blinded by the devil or very dishonest.
From my little lesson on bible, ONENESS is in heaven is correct.
For me, (The Father, The Son and Holy Spirit) is a CODE of war againt satan and dimonic kingdom ON EARTH. It is not apply in real heaven.
Reasson is somekind of code war?
= christian baptize in the name of The Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Spiritually, by Heaven Law We are now became army of God, we are on God side( God ultimate purposed).
I am not good in remember the bible scripture. Very sorry for that.. help me to studies about what i write on top. Gbu.
In Matthew 28
17 And when they saw him they worshiped him, but some doubted.
18 And Jesus came and said to them, "in heaven and on earth has been given to me.
19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
20 teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you.
It is Like a CODE OF WAR..
The 1st thing Lord Jesus facing just after baptized is maybe can be prove ..
Matthew 4:1-25
Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. And the tempter came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” But he answered, “It is written, “‘Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’” Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple ...
Ephesians 6:10-18
Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, ...
Wellbeing Channel Jesus spoke the Father's words when he clearly defined himself and the Father in John 8:17-18's teaching the two of them are men by the law of Jesus' listeners, meaning each has his own material body with a spirit of man within his body:
Jesus has his own mortal material dust body with his own spirit of man - the spirit of God's Son crying Abba Father Galatians 4:6; the Spirit of Christ Romans 8:9, the Spirit of adoption saying Abba Father, and the Spirit of Jesus Christ Philippians 1:19 - within his body;
The Father has his own God [before creation] material Spirit man body with his own Spirit of man, called the Spirit of God 1st Corinthians 2:11b, within his body 1st Corinthians 2:11b, John 8:17-18's teaching. How could God be limited by having his own God [before creation] material Spirit man body?
Inspirational show!You are well read ,& done volumes of biblical research..
)I was UPCI 30years ..Oneness doctrine ..
) God revealed
The Pre-Existing Son as the Word ( Logos )..forever in the beginning through eternity..
The Word (Christ) ,became flesh ..
)Eternal beings never stop or change..manifesting Their Distinctness..
)If the Father came to Earth as man ,He would have become the Lamb of God ..
Therefore if I worship the Father as Jesus my Lord & Savior ..I deny the Manifestation of My
Father ..
In Heaven I will behold One God ,my Lord Jesus Christ..
The Eternal Son of God ..
I honestly grew up in a trinitarian church, but we never used that word ever, I just knew we were pentecostal Christians, it wasn't till I found a oneness apostolic pentecostal church that I learned about it and my aunt told me later on that we come from a trinity based family belief. I found out there's 2 types of trinitarians, there's those that believe that they are separate gods and ones (like I used to believe) that believe that they made up 1 God equally, that each one was 1/3rd God and one couldn't exist without the other 2. The oneness makes way more sense to me and to be honest I never felt the Holy Ghost more or felt more zealous for living for God than at a oneness apostolic church, the oneness is the truth, I feel it, it's why I choose to only read an akjv Bible now instead of the NLT, NkJV and "the message" Bibles like I used to.
Amen!
I like hearing these kinds of testimonies because it reminds me of myself, and how it "clicked" for me...God bless and continue walking with the Lord Jesus until the end.
The words "separation of church and state" never appear once in any founding document of our United States. Though the phrase "separation of church and state" is never expressly written anywhere, it arises from a plain reading and understanding of the texts in their entirety.
A trinitarian holds that God is 1 being revealed consistently over time in 3 persons. Being refers to "what" a thing is by nature. I have flesh, bones, blood, eyes, a brain, etc...and those things make me a "human." Person refers to "who" a thing is by nature. I (person) am a human (being).
If I were to say God is 1 being, but is really 3 beings by nature...we'd have problems with logic itself.
If I were to say God is 1 person, but really is 3 persons by nature...we'd have problems with logic itself.
One of the greatest philosphical questions of all time is: "How can there be true diversity in unity?" To better understand these types of questions, we (until recently) went to a "Uni-versity" which is a mash-up of these two seemingly contradictory concepts into one word. It is only within a proper understanding of Christianity, as opposed to any other world religion on Earth, that we find true diversity within a complete unity. No other.
"Oneness" in all it's various forms over 2000 years of Church history, whether monarchistic modalism, Sabellianism, or modern Pentecostal "Oneness" (and I hope everyone who reads this looks up these for themselves)....has been authoritatively rejected as heresy...which means those who hold to it are "outside the faith." They have rejected the manner in which God has chosen to reveal Himself through His Holy Word.
The bible says two different things 1) a husband and 2) a wife are "one flesh". Is there still any distinction to be found between the man (person) and a woman (person) after (being) married?
See my video I’ve studied the trinity for 35 years
As to your title, why do I believe in the trinity? Because it's scriptural and revealed plainly. I HAVE to believe it because comes from the word itself. Not one verse says jesus is the Father. Dont even bring up the one verse of him being the Father of eternity. That's saying he is the source or originator of all creation and all things of eternity. But that doesn't mean he's the Father of whom sends Him. I challenge anyone who can find one scripture that jesus is the Father. Dont even bring up show us the Father verse either. Jesus never responded, I am the Father. He said those who seen me has seen the Father. Why? Because no one has seen God the Father except the Son and the Son REVEALS Him. The Son is sent from the Father. The Son comes to do the Fathers will. He comes to bring the Father's message. He comes to fulfill the Fathers plan. He even led the prayer towards the Father of our Father. So it's a no brainer those who seen the Son has seen the Father. Do I need to mention that the Son does what the Father does. They are in perfect unity. God is Elohim. That's why God can say Let us make, let us go down, who will go for Us
Can I show you a Verse in the Bible that says the Trinty Saves you? Yes! The Father Chooses all those who are in the Son, The Son becomes Flesh and Dies for the Sins of all those whom the Father chose in him, and The spirit Regenerates, Sanctifies, and Seals us unto the day of redemption! It's very clear and obvious! I'll be praying for you!
Considering that the Lord God is one God, Oneness seems to represent that idea vs Trinitarian which places God as three PERSONS, to me. I can grasp one being three but three persons being one ? I've struggled trying to understand this Great Mystery. So if one loves Jesus and trusts in Him but believes the way I do...God will send them to Hell because they can't understand the Trinitarian doctrine ? Does ANYONE truly understand the mystery of the Godhead fully ? Isaiah, prophesying of the future birth of Jesus calls Him "...the Prince of Peace, Wonderful Counselor, the Mighty God, and the Everlasting Father." How can anyone deny this ? There are other Scriptures "I and my Father are One," Disciples to Jesus "Show us the Father and it will satisfy us," "Have I been among you so long and you still don't know who I am ? If you've seen Me, you've seen the Father." There are many Scriptures that bears this out, so who can say that the Trinitarian view is correct and the Oneness view wrong ?
It’s basically the same thought lol
Do you think it funny that Matt 28:19 is the only place you will find it , all other place it say in Jesus or Christ . For me Trinity we not let you be part of it , and Jesus said to be one in him as he is one with the Father .justsaying . God is not a man , God is spirit Let go back to the Bible . Jesus is who if not what Rev 22: 16 said .
Not one nor three. The almighty God can NOT be here, because He would be expected to A) be free to decide and B) know the future. But having at the same time both abilities is logically impossible. This is why we have the Son of God: He does NOT know the future. The Son of God was the Father in a remote past, when He still had his power. The almighty God from the past can be here now in the form of a spirit.
Jeremiah 5:10 "Go ye upon her walls, and destroy; but make not a full end: take away her battlements; for they are not the LORD'S."
2 Corinthians 10:5 "Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ." Acts 2:38, 4:12
Acts 4:26 'the Lord and his Christ': they are not one only but two; life eternal that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ who you have sent' John 17:3 : Jesus is not the Father, the only true God!