The torque dip and the way the throttle was mapped on the 1st generation was the deal killer so I went with a Miata. This 2nd generation seems much improved and other reviewers have said numbers wise it’s better than the Miata but the roadster just has better feel. Let’s be grateful that we can still find rear wheel drive manual sports cars that are well balanced and affordable.
Absolutely agree with all of this! My Miata was a hair more fun (in my opinion) but if I could have only owned one car at the time this would have been the overall better choice!
The Miatas 340lbs cargo limit which includes people, for my wife and I meant zero luggage. The BRZs 700lbs limit was the winner for our weekend getaways.
I get that haha. Weekend trips were short, but oh so fun while they lasted with the Miata. My next toy will definitely be a larger car. It’s way to easy to be driving in the blind sits of trucks and SUVs.
Your microphone is messed up. It sounds like your microphone is wet. Also, was wondering if this Subaru engine every fixed the oil starvation issues with the oil pickup tube? I've read too the manual transmission 2nd gear are weak or defective. That needs to be repaired as well.
Yeah, I’m not sure what happened in this one. 😬 I haven’t heard those being common issues but also I hardly follow the BRZ/86 forums. I’d ask this question or search for a thread there. Thanks for watching!
@Doc1855 , try a strict “animal based” diet for about a month to lower your arthritis symptoms. search “animal based diet” and Dr Paul Saladino MD should have a video on it.
I own a silver 24BRZ premium 6MT. I’ve owned over a dozen sports cars in my lifetime and this car has been more fun than all of them. It’s one of those cars that you look forward to driving every day. I know some will say it needs more horsepower but to be honest it doesn’t. The power to weight ratio is just right and it is a great overall package. I noticed that you did not mention the new sport mode feature for the 6MT for 2025. Did you happen to test sport mode to see if it made any type of difference? I read that it makes a slight throttle mapping adjustment.
I did put the car into sport mode for my initial drive, and I think it was still in that mode for the easy launch/shifting 0-60. I didn’t detect much of a difference, definitely not as much as a traditional auto that can also change the shifting tune. But I absolutely agree, these cars are a serious hoot and anyone who doesn’t believe it needs to go out and drive one haha.
The 2025 comes with the normal clicky turn signals. Do you know if the module is plug and play while keeping auto dimming high beams/ LED projector following driver steering?
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Thank you for the reply. I am still not use to my BRZ (BMW) turn signals. It is very frustrating to return the signals back to neutral and it looks something like this to the poor driver behind me. ⬅➡⬅➡⬅> (stops togging signals)
@@wombatcombat3770: Just push the turn signal in the same direction again after initially pushing the turn signal lever and it will cancel the turn signal.
@@wombatcombat3770 It's actually pretty easy. They messed with me for the first 50 miles but now I actually like them better than the traditional style turn signals.
This car is definitely not going to be around for a long time yet as you stated (sad). The engine meets regs to 2029 here but the Toyota/Subie partnership will be over well before then. I wouldn't be surprised if 2026 is it's last model year. Just picked up a BRZ two weeks ago. It's everything you claim it is!
@@mojojoji5493Not true. The limited comes with Michelin Pilot Sport 4. (Mine are in the basement. I replaced them with all season tires and 17 inch wheels.)
@@mojojoji5493 Actually the car comes with two different tires depending on trim. And the base tires are super fun due to the low grip levels, you can hoon the car around all day. It's a blast.
The car did change. They retuned the steering, throttle and suspension (a little more oversteer available in BRZ for '25). Also changed turn signals to regular kind but I actually found I like the one's on the '24. The GR86 gets less aggressive throttle tuning. No one has mentioned much about the changes leading me to conclude that they are subtle.
Yeah, I’d say they’re subtle. Each time I get in a BRZ/GR86 it just handles better than most other performance cars to begin with. And not being able to legitimately test the extremes of this car on public roads means it’s tough to feel new limits. But each year there’s more numb feeling cars, which makes cars like this stand out more and more whether those changes are there and legitimate or not. 🤪
That’s a good question, I didn’t realize this until it was too late after filming. I think the microphone receiver at times wasn’t 100% connected properly. 🤦♂️🤪
Wrong. The cars not that well built. They use gummy sealer on the oil pan and engine instead of gaskets. Causing gunk in the oil pan return. And I test drove one. The brakes are worse than a basic economy car.
The car stops from 60 in 106ft with either the regular brakes or the Brembos. You must be driving some amazing economy cars. The brakes do take a bit more pressure but not excessively so.
That’s for sure! 91 octane is a pain, especially for a naturally aspirated factory motor. I get it for a boosted engine or a tuned car but factory 4 cylinder come on. 🫠
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Not only does this car have a high compression ratio for a naturally asperated car, it is also tuned from the factory with aggressive cam and spark timing. It's tuned so aggressively that unless you do cooling mods, or put some ethanol in it during the summer, it will pull timing almost all the time. Even with premium fuel, the engine control computer keeps this engine pulled back from its full potential. Based on research found in the forums, it takes between 15% to 20% of ethanol blend to keep this engine "all in".
Haha, don’t knock it until you’ve driven a new one. 🤪 IMO they’re more fun than the Plaid, any hellcat, ZL1, or even most Corvettes I’ve driven. The C8 might be as fun on the street, but it’s close.
It has an LSD and ESC (all vehicles duh). It's also faster than a MX-5 and you can buy one for 30k right now (base). And the nearest competitor that has a turbo and adaptive suspension is a top trim WRX at 46k. Get your facts straight but you start slinging arrows.
This kind of car is not for EV people. Plenty of microwaves with wheels to choose from but you won't be rowing your own gears or enjoying anything that has to do with automotive fun. But at least you'll be driving at the pleasure of the government.
I have a 2024 BRZ Limited in Silver. I absolutely love the car. Every time I drive it, I smile.
Oh I bet, what a cool car!! Every time I get the chance to drive one of these they just feel so special and well thought out.
This platform is so fun to drive daily
The torque dip and the way the throttle was mapped on the 1st generation was the deal killer so I went with a Miata. This 2nd generation seems much improved and other reviewers have said numbers wise it’s better than the Miata but the roadster just has better feel. Let’s be grateful that we can still find rear wheel drive manual sports cars that are well balanced and affordable.
Absolutely agree with all of this! My Miata was a hair more fun (in my opinion) but if I could have only owned one car at the time this would have been the overall better choice!
The Miatas 340lbs cargo limit which includes people, for my wife and I meant zero luggage.
The BRZs 700lbs limit was the winner for our weekend getaways.
I get that haha. Weekend trips were short, but oh so fun while they lasted with the Miata. My next toy will definitely be a larger car. It’s way to easy to be driving in the blind sits of trucks and SUVs.
Took delivery of my World Rally Blue BRZ tS from Treasure Valley Subaru this past December. Wonderful car!
That’s awesome, and what a perfect spec!!
I took delivery of my 2025 World Rally Blue BRZ tS back in December as well.
Your microphone is messed up. It sounds like your microphone is wet. Also, was wondering if this Subaru engine every fixed the oil starvation issues with the oil pickup tube? I've read too the manual transmission 2nd gear are weak or defective. That needs to be repaired as well.
Yeah, I’m not sure what happened in this one. 😬 I haven’t heard those being common issues but also I hardly follow the BRZ/86 forums. I’d ask this question or search for a thread there. Thanks for watching!
I just bought a CPO ascent onyx limited because of your channel. We love it!! Thanks!!
That’s awesome, I’m glad you’re loving it!!
After 17,000 miles I'm averaging 29 mpg on my '23. Absolutely love it!
Nice!! That’s how many miles I put on my 23 Miata before selling it.
City driving? Any hills?
@@mosswine5417 About 60% highway. Rolling hills.
Is that really something to brag about? Some much faster cars have 100+ more HP & TQ can get that.
At my age and arthritis it would be too hard to get in and out of it.
But like we’ve talked about before (on some other car), once you’re in, I don’t think you’d want to get out! 🤪
@ That’s only because I couldn’t get out without a jack.
🤣
I know right where that car is in twin falls!
@Doc1855 , try a strict “animal based” diet for about a month to lower your arthritis symptoms. search “animal based diet” and Dr Paul Saladino MD should have a video on it.
this car with a 1.5-2.0 inch lift kit would be a fun daily. That’s what Topher did to his BRZ when he had it and even rally crossed it.
I own a silver 24BRZ premium 6MT. I’ve owned over a dozen sports cars in my lifetime and this car has been more fun than all of them. It’s one of those cars that you look forward to driving every day. I know some will say it needs more horsepower but to be honest it doesn’t. The power to weight ratio is just right and it is a great overall package.
I noticed that you did not mention the new sport mode feature for the 6MT for 2025. Did you happen to test sport mode to see if it made any type of difference? I read that it makes a slight throttle mapping adjustment.
I did put the car into sport mode for my initial drive, and I think it was still in that mode for the easy launch/shifting 0-60. I didn’t detect much of a difference, definitely not as much as a traditional auto that can also change the shifting tune.
But I absolutely agree, these cars are a serious hoot and anyone who doesn’t believe it needs to go out and drive one haha.
I have a 2015 BRZ Limited hands down one of the most fun daily cars to drive
The 2025 comes with the normal clicky turn signals.
Do you know if the module is plug and play while keeping auto dimming high beams/ LED projector following driver steering?
That I don’t know. Best of luck finding your answer, and thanks for watching!
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Thank you for the reply.
I am still not use to my BRZ (BMW) turn signals.
It is very frustrating to return the signals back to neutral and it looks something like this to the poor driver behind me.
⬅➡⬅➡⬅> (stops togging signals)
@@wombatcombat3770: Just push the turn signal in the same direction again after initially pushing the turn signal lever and it will cancel the turn signal.
@@a.jennings4664 Interesting, I will try that out. Thank you.
It will probably be a while for muscle memory to retrain the new style.
@@wombatcombat3770 It's actually pretty easy. They messed with me for the first 50 miles but now I actually like them better than the traditional style turn signals.
Wonderful cars. Honda can’t competed
This car is definitely not going to be around for a long time yet as you stated (sad). The engine meets regs to 2029 here but the Toyota/Subie partnership will be over well before then. I wouldn't be surprised if 2026 is it's last model year. Just picked up a BRZ two weeks ago. It's everything you claim it is!
Congrats on your new BRZ!!
I like the BRZ, I wanted to pick up a used first gen BRZ/FRS/86 as a second car, but they are all clapped out 😂
Hahaha oh no. 😟
My 2024 base WRX was $30,700 before tax :)
Nice job! My base WRX with STI short throw package was 33.5k! 2.9% 513/month.
The brz is way overpriced for a car that's that slow.
@@TaylorG-n1u You can get one of these for 30k. Name a faster car for less money. I'm waiting.
Since when did the BRZ come with Pirelli tires stock? Is this new for 2025? Then later in the video you list Michelin pilot sports. Sup-wit-dat?
Oops, if I said Pirelli I didn’t catch that. Thanks for paying attention!!
I have a 2023 ice silver brz can’t get enough of it Amazing sports car I live in Canada eh!!
They come with the bottom of barrel tires, people don’t realize how much grip this car can have until they go aftermarket
@@mojojoji5493Not true. The limited comes with Michelin Pilot Sport 4. (Mine are in the basement. I replaced them with all season tires and 17 inch wheels.)
@@mojojoji5493 Actually the car comes with two different tires depending on trim. And the base tires are super fun due to the low grip levels, you can hoon the car around all day. It's a blast.
I'm pressed to see the need for a (another) review of a car that has not changed.
I mean, the manual now has sport mode lol. These cars are just so fun to drive, I’d love to drive at least one trim level a year haha.
The car did change. They retuned the steering, throttle and suspension (a little more oversteer available in BRZ for '25). Also changed turn signals to regular kind but I actually found I like the one's on the '24. The GR86 gets less aggressive throttle tuning.
No one has mentioned much about the changes leading me to conclude that they are subtle.
Yeah, I’d say they’re subtle. Each time I get in a BRZ/GR86 it just handles better than most other performance cars to begin with. And not being able to legitimately test the extremes of this car on public roads means it’s tough to feel new limits. But each year there’s more numb feeling cars, which makes cars like this stand out more and more whether those changes are there and legitimate or not. 🤪
Great looking car, but they RUINED the front end with the horrific license plate "growth" protruding from an otherwise awesome bumper design.
What’s wrong with your audio?
That’s a good question, I didn’t realize this until it was too late after filming. I think the microphone receiver at times wasn’t 100% connected properly. 🤦♂️🤪
Wrong. The cars not that well built. They use gummy sealer on the oil pan and engine instead of gaskets. Causing gunk in the oil pan return. And I test drove one. The brakes are worse than a basic economy car.
The car stops from 60 in 106ft with either the regular brakes or the Brembos. You must be driving some amazing economy cars. The brakes do take a bit more pressure but not excessively so.
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Too bad it requires premium fuel ⛽️ or else it would be a perfect affordable sporty car.
That’s for sure! 91 octane is a pain, especially for a naturally aspirated factory motor. I get it for a boosted engine or a tuned car but factory 4 cylinder come on. 🫠
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 12.5 :1 compression ratio requires high octane. So does any engine over 10 :1 to prevent knock. you can't fight it.
Mazda 2.5 with high compression does not
@@AutomotiveAnonymous208 Not only does this car have a high compression ratio for a naturally asperated car, it is also tuned from the factory with aggressive cam and spark timing. It's tuned so aggressively that unless you do cooling mods, or put some ethanol in it during the summer, it will pull timing almost all the time. Even with premium fuel, the engine control computer keeps this engine pulled back from its full potential. Based on research found in the forums, it takes between 15% to 20% of ethanol blend to keep this engine "all in".
Thanks for sharing this!
Why am I not at least bit surprised this guy owns a Miata Aka a hairdresser's car.
Haha, don’t knock it until you’ve driven a new one. 🤪 IMO they’re more fun than the Plaid, any hellcat, ZL1, or even most Corvettes I’ve driven. The C8 might be as fun on the street, but it’s close.
Most Miata buyers are men in their sixties. But you're close.
$36,000 for a car with no turbo, no adaptive suspension, steering, exhaust, engine, LSD & ESC and slower than a MX5😳 you've got to be kidding me😅
It has an LSD and ESC (all vehicles duh). It's also faster than a MX-5 and you can buy one for 30k right now (base).
And the nearest competitor that has a turbo and adaptive suspension is a top trim WRX at 46k.
Get your facts straight but you start slinging arrows.
When they make it an EV, I will buy one.
Why’s that?
Wtf why
It wouldn’t be the same. Part of the fun comes from the light weight. Making it an EV would nearly double the weight.
This kind of car is not for EV people. Plenty of microwaves with wheels to choose from but you won't be rowing your own gears or enjoying anything that has to do with automotive fun. But at least you'll be driving at the pleasure of the government.
People like you are the problem