I have seen an e-Golf on an EV training center which had done 220.000 km. It had 11% degradation, it only use fast chargers. Which in my opinion goes to show how great this car is.
It's most likely the weather conditions that are keeping it healthy, this car only has a passive cooling system. If it were hot, the batteries would probably get roasted.
@@theproffessional9 I have to disagree, the Leaf battery is knackered despite being Norway registered, it is just crap cell chemistry that Nissan kept using for too long. Hopefully Ariya is better!
I have a 2015 24kwh egolf in Utah in the US, it was originally from California. It has 81,000 miles on it and car scanner claims 16350wh for maximum content of the traction battery and I typically get 70 miles when it's warm and 50 miles in the cold. So it does not do as well on degradation in a much warmer environment.
You can reset the trip meter on the steering wheel. Go to distance, push OK to change from "since last charged" to "tripA" or "tripB" and press the OK button for 3 seconds. Only the active trip meter is reseted. And on the scanner app: Current DC-Link power must be the DC-DC converter to the 12V-onboard system, which is charged with about 50 Watt.
Hi Björn, testing these old e-cars has for sure a lot of value to show the liability of batteries and used EV's at a whole. It also should help to encourage people to buy used EV's without fear of ending up with having all the money wasted in a useless piece of junk. Especially the Golf's interior makes a very well looked after impression, not to compare with Frankenstein, which is a completely different story. I wonder what the results of your further test with the e-Golf show, hopefully such, that the "Sun" will not be amused. 😉 Best wishes to you and your family.
You manage to Make the most mundane material interesting! Ten year old EVs are not what gets the most clicks, I’m sure - yet I found this most compelling. I’ll be there for the 1,000 km test on the e-Golf - challenge accepted! Thanks, Bjorn! And congratulations on the new home. It looks stunning at night!
Can't wait for that 1000km video :) i have 2016 egolf, it is my first EV, bought it year and a half ago with 18.000km, now it has 51.000 and still it never went under 15%... For me it is great car, very comfortable and enjoyable to drive. Mind the range...
@@JanNovak-pg8oe Think the 24 might do better when it comes to overheating if the Leaf is anything to go by. Also we all know it will take a long time haha, we still want to know how well it will do though.
I have driven one of these, its a nice car (since its a golf, and it has physical buttons instead of touchscreen for adjusting heat = big luxery these days :) but the range was way way too limited for me :/
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Weird the 24 kWh e-Golf can take a higher C rate while charging than the 32 kWh. My e-Golf should be able to take ~55 kW, that would be a lot better than the 38 it takes now
The limit is in the cables. Max 125A (CCS1 limit) and to few cells, so only 325V. 325V x 125A = 40,6 kW max. I had the 32kWh e-Golf for 6 years. Great car for short drives. Not the best for long drives.
Well in Germany, our Ikea has also mustard "Senf" besides ketchup. And we can charge our cars for free. One of the last placeses in Germany where you can charge your car for free
Hi I have a 2015 VW e Golf US spec it’s a SEL it’s as the same 24 KW/h battery they have the Panasonic cells the in-bord charger is 6.6 KW and DC capability max 43 KW it had almost the same total km and the degradation is pretty close to this one but I noticed that all European specs e Golf when you charge them to 100 % but checking on the car scanners it never charges to 100 % I wonder if it ever did because I bought it used so I don’t know but I think the percentage has dropped a bit since 65 000 km and noticed that the max km at full charge is way higher on euro cars because mine is EPA rated.
I have both. e-Up is a brilliant small car with an average consumption of less than 10kWh/100 km in city driving (relaxed driving from 10 to 25 degrees celsius). e-Golf is a most refined car but also practical and economic (aprox 12 kWh/100). Believe me, it's difficult to choose between the two of them...
Don't know how it is with the old model, but the facelift e-Golf has 2phase 16A charging. But if you plug it into a single phase 32A the car can supposedly take advantage of that. But I assume you have 16A 3phase. You should check in the App of your easee or the house consumption to make sure.
The pre facelift e-Golf only had 3,6kW onboard charger. The two phase 7,2 kW onboard charger on the facelift was brilliant. You got 7,2kW both on 3 phase 16A and 1 phase 32A chargepoints.
you are such a nerd Bjørn, you focus on detail is great. Please do not remember to review new cars. there are some MG and BYD and one special tesla i really would like your take on.
Believe me, don't do 1000km test in an e-golf. I did 800+ in the summer and after the second DC charge it wouldn't charge more than 10-15 kw. Granted it was the hottest day in Denmark that summer(28c). Not build for long trips but great for short commutes.
Did lot of long (~400km) trips in "high summer", never seen less than 35-37kW on the last DC charge, the hottest module i've seen was at 44 C. And climate was much hotter, 30+.
I did a 650 mile trip to LA in a 2016 se e golf multiple times - and my multiple charging was great I did not experience that at all I didn't drive over 62 mph on highway
@@AndrewTSqDKW is for Das Kleine Wunder (The little miracle) and was one of 5 companies which were joined into Auto Union, later named Audi (hence the 5 rings). VW was independent from that back then (when you were a kid).
@@moestrei i know, but they stilled called them DKW here. Audi was not a car that was looked at as a luxery brand when I was a kid. It was more of a piece of rust :) (In the 70ies)
You can buy it very cheap and Oldies use it as a roofed mobility scooter. It is also the only EV which is very easy repairable, no software secrets or service codes.
Just amazing how good the first gen e-Golf is, great build quality and low degradation
I have seen an e-Golf on an EV training center which had done 220.000 km. It had 11% degradation, it only use fast chargers. Which in my opinion goes to show how great this car is.
@@marcohillenga5068 Panasonic battery cells, very high quality. Compared to Nissan it shows how bad the Leaf really is.
It's most likely the weather conditions that are keeping it healthy, this car only has a passive cooling system. If it were hot, the batteries would probably get roasted.
@@theproffessional9 I have to disagree, the Leaf battery is knackered despite being Norway registered, it is just crap cell chemistry that Nissan kept using for too long. Hopefully Ariya is better!
I have a 2015 24kwh egolf in Utah in the US, it was originally from California. It has 81,000 miles on it and car scanner claims 16350wh for maximum content of the traction battery and I typically get 70 miles when it's warm and 50 miles in the cold. So it does not do as well on degradation in a much warmer environment.
You can reset the trip meter on the steering wheel. Go to distance, push OK to change from "since last charged" to "tripA" or "tripB" and press the OK button for 3 seconds. Only the active trip meter is reseted.
And on the scanner app: Current DC-Link power must be the DC-DC converter to the 12V-onboard system, which is charged with about 50 Watt.
Hi Björn,
testing these old e-cars has for sure a lot of value to show the liability of batteries and used EV's at a whole.
It also should help to encourage people to buy used EV's without fear of ending up with having all the money wasted in a useless piece of junk.
Especially the Golf's interior makes a very well looked after impression, not to compare with Frankenstein, which is a completely different story.
I wonder what the results of your further test with the e-Golf show, hopefully such, that the "Sun" will not be amused. 😉
Best wishes to you and your family.
Also Finland! €1 hotdogs and free charging
You manage to
Make the most mundane material interesting! Ten year old EVs are not what gets the most clicks, I’m sure - yet I found this most compelling. I’ll be there for the 1,000 km test on the e-Golf - challenge accepted!
Thanks, Bjorn! And congratulations on the new home. It looks stunning at night!
More kWhs used to pre-heat the Leafs battery than for actual trip 😅
Can't wait for that 1000km video :) i have 2016 egolf, it is my first EV, bought it year and a half ago with 18.000km, now it has 51.000 and still it never went under 15%... For me it is great car, very comfortable and enjoyable to drive. Mind the range...
My first EV was a 2015 e-Golf with headpump. Horrible range, but the car was amazing and I loved it.
E-Golf for the win 😁 It was my first "Elektroauto". The Interior was really much better than in pre Facelift ID3.
We also put ketchup and sennep on hotdogs in Denmark
Would definitely watch a 1000km challenge
Even if it´s just to witness "the agony" 😁
@@JanNovak-pg8oe Think the 24 might do better when it comes to overheating if the Leaf is anything to go by. Also we all know it will take a long time haha, we still want to know how well it will do though.
500 km challenge series for old cars would be really nice
You should try their e-up too! If you can ofc. Love to see how these old EVs are compared to the modern ones.
I bought this used E-Golf a couple of years ago for about EUR 14,500. It offers great value as a daily driver where short range is not an issue.
I'm Danish. We use red sausages, sennep, ketchup, remulade and slices of pickles... oh and chopped up onion :D
Ketchup and mustard are common in Germany as well. ;)
Ketchup and mustard combined is "normal" in Czech Republic too 😀
We also put mustard and ketchup on hotdogs in Denmark :-) and renoulade
I have driven one of these, its a nice car (since its a golf, and it has physical buttons instead of touchscreen for adjusting heat = big luxery these days :) but the range was way way too limited for me :/
I really wish they made e-Golf mk7 with 58 kWh battery pack.
No. Ikea hotdogs have ketchup and mustard in the UK 🤣 Loving the realworld videos! Thanks.
UK here, we do the same with our hotdogs 👍🏻
08:43 Was... Was that a Commando/Havoc reference from Björn?
Finland also have mustard and ketchup on sosage :D
The eGolf 2014/2015 was my first EV :) Great car for city driving but you shouldn't get one if you need to drive >100 km on a daily basis
i use mine for around 150km daily... (for last two months)
Just wanted to suggest making a transition to more 4K videos rather than 1080p. The difference in quality between the 4K vlogs and the regular videos is quite noticeable on displays with high pixel density. Thanks
Ketchup and mustard here in Denmark too, Bjørn :-)
Weird the 24 kWh e-Golf can take a higher C rate while charging than the 32 kWh. My e-Golf should be able to take ~55 kW, that would be a lot better than the 38 it takes now
The limit is in the cables. Max 125A (CCS1 limit) and to few cells, so only 325V. 325V x 125A = 40,6 kW max.
I had the 32kWh e-Golf for 6 years. Great car for short drives. Not the best for long drives.
125A max was the common limit on the chargers at the time. No need to size the connectors and cables for higher current...
Hotdogs are not "fika* in my book beeing a Swede 😉
The Netherlands also has the chicken hotdog, with ketchup and mustard. the vegan one does indeed taste very very weird.
Do we have a glossary for the technical terms btw for beginners? Like what is “cold gate” vs “rapid gate”, Stau etc
Sorry don't think there is a dictionary😅.
Rapid/cold gate=slow charging because of hot/cold battery.
Stau=traffic jam or que at chargers
@@fosoren thank you, appreciated 😄
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We want 1000km challenge on this egolf!!😅😅
Well in Germany, our Ikea has also mustard "Senf" besides ketchup. And we can charge our cars for free. One of the last placeses in Germany where you can charge your car for free
In Denmark we also have Mustard in :)
Bread
Sausage
Mustard
Ketchup
Remoulade
fried onion
raw onion
cucumber salad
Hi I have a 2015 VW e Golf US spec it’s a SEL it’s as the same 24 KW/h battery they have the Panasonic cells the in-bord charger is 6.6 KW and DC capability max 43 KW it had almost the same total km and the degradation is pretty close to this one but I noticed that all European specs e Golf when you charge them to 100 % but checking on the car scanners it never charges to 100 % I wonder if it ever did because I bought it used so I don’t know but I think the percentage has dropped a bit since 65 000 km and noticed that the max km at full charge is way higher on euro cars because mine is EPA rated.
Witch obd Adapter are you using ?
Or witch Adapter ist the best for a Renault Zoe ?
Also Iceland!
It was 2005 when I last drove a Think. 8:03
Finland having similar hotdogs too
how times change....a car battery in the old days is a motorcycle battery nowadays :p Is the golf battery liquid cooled?
Those were the days, when the software just worked . 😂
we use mustard, ketchup and remolade on hotdogs in denmark too :) Dansk hotdog
The same in Danmark regarding hotdog
Mustard and ketchup in the UK also
Future upgrade - heated driveway :)
Mustard and ketchup 👍 in Australia.
Hi Bjorn 👋
What’s best for a 2nd Car ev ? e-up or e-golf ? the e-up is cheaper but smaller car, faster charging too. Both have CCS which is a musk these days.
Depends a lot on what you need it for. E-up in general is a fun small car if that covers your needs :)
E-up fast charges slower than e-golf. Not that kind of flat charging curve.
I have both. e-Up is a brilliant small car with an average consumption of less than 10kWh/100 km in city driving (relaxed driving from 10 to 25 degrees celsius). e-Golf is a most refined car but also practical and economic (aprox 12 kWh/100). Believe me, it's difficult to choose between the two of them...
This is the stuff ! Please more golf degradation tests!
Don't know how it is with the old model, but the facelift e-Golf has 2phase 16A charging. But if you plug it into a single phase 32A the car can supposedly take advantage of that. But I assume you have 16A 3phase. You should check in the App of your easee or the house consumption to make sure.
There was 7.2kW OBC option for US market cars. With retrofitted Combo2 inlet (from facelift) works the same way.
The pre facelift e-Golf only had 3,6kW onboard charger.
The two phase 7,2 kW onboard charger on the facelift was brilliant. You got 7,2kW both on 3 phase 16A and 1 phase 32A chargepoints.
@@MrStaffonly European yes. American had both 3.6 and 7.2.
If this car is scrapped after 20 years it could have 80% of it's battery capacity left.
Iceland hotdogs. Hot dog, Icelandic sinnep(mustard), raw white onion diced, fried onion, and some people have remuladi
food stops never disappoint :)
Bjorn i just saw the new all electric Dodge Ram pickup will have a 229kwh battery option.
you are such a nerd Bjørn, you focus on detail is great. Please do not remember to review new cars. there are some MG and BYD and one special tesla i really would like your take on.
I review lots of new cars in my channel. Don't forget to subscribe and actually watch them ;)
Surprised you still didn’t get your hands on Highland Model 3 for a test!
I have one egolf with 250tkm. My wife love with it.
Any issues in that time?
Get some winter tires on that Leaf please.
Who said I didn't have winter tires on it?
You did! 2:52
Ich warte auf Tesla Higland Standard Test Drive 🤗
I have 63km of range on my electric scooter haha
I love my 32 kWh e-Golf, but replacing it in 2025 with probably a Volvo EX30 will be great
ECO works fine, but ECO+ is terrible on tge e-Golf
Isn't it 35.8 kWh e-Golf?
@@bjornnyland He is probably mentioning net capacity. Which is 31.5kWh nominal to be precise.
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Believe me, don't do 1000km test in an e-golf. I did 800+ in the summer and after the second DC charge it wouldn't charge more than 10-15 kw. Granted it was the hottest day in Denmark that summer(28c). Not build for long trips but great for short commutes.
Did lot of long (~400km) trips in "high summer", never seen less than 35-37kW on the last DC charge, the hottest module i've seen was at 44 C. And climate was much hotter, 30+.
@@petyapyatochkin9630 It was mostly a problem the last 400 km. There is no battery management on the e-golf(colling or heating).
@@StormKleist It's interesting at which temperature it throttles to 10-15kW. May be for the sake of knowledge 1000km challenge still worth it. 😃
I did a 650 mile trip to LA in a 2016 se e golf multiple times - and my multiple charging was great I did not experience that at all I didn't drive over 62 mph on highway
@@radioa3sthetic Strange! When I got home with 12km left the AC charging took 31 hours! I never did another long trip in the 3.5 years I had it. 🤔
Ebilmek sounds a lot like the „satanic mechanic“ from the Rocky Horror Picture Show
el = electric, bil = car
@@celeron55 ;)
Set the hamsters free
The 24 kw version is Still a good car
*24 kWh
or DKW as they called VW when I was a kid :)
@@AndrewTSqDKW is for Das Kleine Wunder (The little miracle) and was one of 5 companies which were joined into Auto Union, later named Audi (hence the 5 rings). VW was independent from that back then (when you were a kid).
@@moestrei i know, but they stilled called them DKW here. Audi was not a car that was looked at as a luxery brand when I was a kid. It was more of a piece of rust :) (In the 70ies)
Shit is a popular saying in norway.
The Leaf is so useless haha
You can buy it very cheap and Oldies use it as a roofed mobility scooter. It is also the only EV which is very easy repairable, no software secrets or service codes.
Zoe Hater 😂
Hi. Have you made a mistake on the title/video. Leaf.
no
You commented before watching the video...
Sorry I never watched long enough. Thanks for the video. @@bjornnyland
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