I feel the need to explain the snow hauling. I also drive a truck and i haul snow in winter here in canada. We scoop up snow from commercial parking lots and city streets and haul it away to "snow dumps" usually large field away from houses and roads. This way in the spring when it all melts it helps to control flooding. Thats why truckers haul snow!
Yeah, but i guess it needs to be a 1000km test, 500 isn’t enough with the bigger battery. Would love to see that, the e-Golf is still one of the best EVs/cars out there. If they’d re-release it with mayne a 50-60 kwh battery…that would be the perfect car for us. Great quality & comfortable, big screens AND buttons, and overall a very good driving experience..
At the end, I think you might actually be rapidgating. There could be a big gap between the coldest and warmest battery cell, which the car does not show in CarScanner (just some average), but BMS takes it into account.
Came to see the egolf test. Stayed for the Dr Pepper Cherry review. I accidentally bought the cherry Dr pepper too and wondered if I was going to regret it. Like you I think I liked it better. Be a pepper Drink Doctor Pepper Cherry. New Sponsor for you.
We went from Frankfurt to lillehammer for skiing in an e-golf 2nd. Genaration , with an overnight stay in Hamburg in 2018. This had been just before the boaring trips with model 3 started back in Feb. 2019 with a trip to kvitfjell.😅😅
As long as you stay under around 100 km/h the battery will not heat up from driving in the egolf. If you drive 90 km/h or below it is slowly cooling. Around 1° /h while driving.
Rapidgating - car is limiting the allowed charging power it can take from a rapid charger due to, e.g. battery too hot or driver is being penalised by manufacturer for too many rapid charging sessions in a day. Coldgating - car is limiting the allowed charging power due to battery pack or some cells are below optimal temperature (usually happens at or below freezing temperatures). There are various potential techniques available to mitigate this in advance, e.g. preconditioning the car, navigating to the rapid charger (so the car knows it will soon be rapid charging), or rapidly accelerating and decelerating (with regen) for a few minutes to warm up the battery through usage.
It should be noted that different EVs will have good or bad software, good or bad hardware to cope with both the above. For example, a few older cars do not have a coolant loop around the battery to flow coolant liquid through pipes near the cells to allow the higher power rates (both charging and sometimes even discharging) to be maintained. The coolant loop is used both for warming and cooling the battery in more capable EVs, and can utilise heat scavenging from various sources (e.g. coolant loops through the motors and running the motors slightly inefficiently to increase heat generation).
When will you test ID7, Lightning, EV9, EX30, Avenger and i5? Motor has all these cars in for test at the same time weeks ago. Importers should be throwing these cars at you
Dr Pepper Cherry, thanks for the range, I mean flavour, test. Sadly Dr Pepper lost flavour with aspartame, perhaps this is an attempt to recover flavour and reveal they were cherry all along!
Actually to me Dr Pepper always kind of tasted like Cherry but not quite, so I agree the Cherry version is actually quite good and completes the taste like Bjorn noted. If you like Cherry of course. I also like Cherry Coke.
If that truck was carrying snow cleared from a street, that snow is quite possibly full of salt, dirt and whatnot. Dumping it just anywhere would be quite, quite illegal.
I have a US spec 2015 e Golf and when my battery pack is fully charged the KM reading never show that high of a possible distance to o km It must be because the European spec car is not EPA tested so the US spec car will show a more realistic range because when my car was new the EPA estimated range was 83 milles = to 133 km’s so way less than what is shown on this car as 156 km in the winter with possible high consumption rate on average I know with my car in the summer and driving at a slower speed my total distance range shows higher than in the winter because it calculates the previous driving consumption.
I don't know if that "battery temperature" reading is to be trusted. Look at the sped-up footage from @22:25 on - the cabin temperature fluctuates two orders of magnitude more than the supposed "battery temperature" and I find it somewhat unlikely that Volkswagen have that level of control over their battery temps.
Bjorn! Dont buy a Soul! If possible lease a car. Isnt that the better option with limited finances? Or are there no good offers in Norway? Here you can find great cars for around 200 EUR/month!
@@aeroauto-h1b yeah, I don’t know what kind of deals you guys have in Norway but I think it’s still the better option if you think about driving with a small child and a pregnant wife. I wouldn’t want to get stranded. Plus if the car breaks down you have to repair it and then all the math was for nothing and you actually didn’t save anything from buying a cheap used car.
@@Scrap-press no downpayment except for most deals you have to pay a „delivery fee“ in Germany between 600-1200 EUR. With my Cupra ST I had to pay 800 EUR. The Citroen C4 I just picked up had no delivery fee and I pay 125 EUR/month for a fully specced version. For EVs though you had to pay a down payment of the exact price of the government „discount“. That was around 4500 EUR but you always got it back. Now it changed though and there are no gov. discounts anymore.
Regardless of leasing or other kinds of financing, buying a new car means taking on more debt which isn't great if you've just bought a house. Leasing is not cheaper it's just a way to keep the cash flow manageable.
@@torakef sure but you also have warranty and in my case the rates itself are so low it’s a no brainer. Why would you buy a trash car for around 8k instead with the fear in your mind that it could break down any second. No warranty there and then you have even more debt. At least with the lease you have a little peace of mind and probably much more space!
You are driving really slow, is that really realistic ? When i travel this Long distance i cant Drive slower than 95-105 otherwise i Just Fall in sleep
Sorry to say, but ev as a second hand are expensive and first gen range is not good from the start before degradation. Go for a fossil kia soul or ceed.
I don’t know who in their right mind would get such car, considering similarly aged diesel golf with these conditions and driving at those speed would do ~1000km in one tank. Also it might actually be cheaper than the DC chargers. And I won’t even mention the end of the life battery that’s due to be changed and means basically the car needs to be scrapped. I am a huge fan of EV technology, but outside of city driving the technology is not there yet!
Here in Prague I get free registration, inspection, pay no taxes, free charging at my flat, free parking and charging at prime spots throughout he city, and I am not contributing to air pollution within the city. The farthest I drive is Plzen- which is around 100 km. That's why I have a eGolf...
Yes, and I actually get something for my taxes, unlike many in other countries... You don't think it is worthwhile for a city and nation to spend tax money to help get cleaner cities and get off of dependance on foreign oil? @@phillipbanes5484
I feel the need to explain the snow hauling. I also drive a truck and i haul snow in winter here in canada.
We scoop up snow from commercial parking lots and city streets and haul it away to "snow dumps" usually large field away from houses and roads.
This way in the spring when it all melts it helps to control flooding.
Thats why truckers haul snow!
Just love how you get a food and drink review as well 😂😂😂
Please retest the 2nd gen e-Golf
I often drove 500 km with it. No Problem in Winter :) e-Up! 32,3 kWh also. But in Summer (2 charging sessions…).
Yeah, but i guess it needs to be a 1000km test, 500 isn’t enough with the bigger battery. Would love to see that, the e-Golf is still one of the best EVs/cars out there. If they’d re-release it with mayne a 50-60 kwh battery…that would be the perfect car for us. Great quality & comfortable, big screens AND buttons, and overall a very good driving experience..
Ya I've had the first generation for years, now I'm on year 2 with 2nd generation. So much better
Please do the same test with the 35kWh e-golf 😇
At the end, I think you might actually be rapidgating.
There could be a big gap between the coldest and warmest battery cell, which the car does not show in CarScanner (just some average), but BMS takes it into account.
Came to see the egolf test. Stayed for the Dr Pepper Cherry review. I accidentally bought the cherry Dr pepper too and wondered if I was going to regret it. Like you I think I liked it better. Be a pepper Drink Doctor Pepper Cherry. New Sponsor for you.
The transport of snow.. may be from a City and there by polutet snow.. that has to be driven to a water treatment plant to clean out, when it melt..
Stretch that pinky 😂 when tasting 🎉
We went from Frankfurt to lillehammer for skiing in an e-golf 2nd. Genaration , with an overnight stay in Hamburg in 2018. This had been just before the boaring trips with model 3 started back in Feb. 2019 with a trip to kvitfjell.😅😅
As long as you stay under around 100 km/h the battery will not heat up from driving in the egolf.
If you drive 90 km/h or below it is slowly cooling. Around 1° /h while driving.
Shiiiiieeeeeettt he says it like guy from The Wire 🤣
25:07 - Hmm, I cannot confirm at my e-golf (2nd gen), that it will throttle on charging counts. It's always on battery temperature.
It will. Talking from experience.
@@kingboye2752 I have an e-Golf since 2020 and driven also long distances. It is always the temperature not the number of charges.
@@der-e-wolf I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. Yes you are right. It's always on battery temp. Not the number of charges.
Stormberg spork for the win!
Hi - new to the channel, what means "Rapidgating" and "coldgating"?
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Rapidgating - car is limiting the allowed charging power it can take from a rapid charger due to, e.g. battery too hot or driver is being penalised by manufacturer for too many rapid charging sessions in a day.
Coldgating - car is limiting the allowed charging power due to battery pack or some cells are below optimal temperature (usually happens at or below freezing temperatures). There are various potential techniques available to mitigate this in advance, e.g. preconditioning the car, navigating to the rapid charger (so the car knows it will soon be rapid charging), or rapidly accelerating and decelerating (with regen) for a few minutes to warm up the battery through usage.
It should be noted that different EVs will have good or bad software, good or bad hardware to cope with both the above. For example, a few older cars do not have a coolant loop around the battery to flow coolant liquid through pipes near the cells to allow the higher power rates (both charging and sometimes even discharging) to be maintained.
The coolant loop is used both for warming and cooling the battery in more capable EVs, and can utilise heat scavenging from various sources (e.g. coolant loops through the motors and running the motors slightly inefficiently to increase heat generation).
I find it odd that it keeps the heat in the battery so well compared to my ID3. I had cold gating issues from charger to charger in minus 10 Celsius.
I approve of the little pinky raising whilst drinking your tasty beverage. Any British upper class ancestry? 😉
21:00 - No, radar is not heated, unfortunately. So if it is snowing too much, it is blocked and you have to free it.
When will you test ID7, Lightning, EV9, EX30, Avenger and i5? Motor has all these cars in for test at the same time weeks ago. Importers should be throwing these cars at you
The truck is transporting salt for your next saltzsmutz fest :)
Dr Pepper Cherry, thanks for the range, I mean flavour, test. Sadly Dr Pepper lost flavour with aspartame, perhaps this is an attempt to recover flavour and reveal they were cherry all along!
It's taste like Dr pepper...but where is the cherry? 😅😅
Actually to me Dr Pepper always kind of tasted like Cherry but not quite, so I agree the Cherry version is actually quite good and completes the taste like Bjorn noted. If you like Cherry of course. I also like Cherry Coke.
I like the taste of Hustensaft and regular Dr. Pepper😅
07:51 i like the regular one!
Please do a 500km run with the 40kw Leaf! Thanks :)
Selfish request from me because I own it and need to drive 560km once a year.
If that truck was carrying snow cleared from a street, that snow is quite possibly full of salt, dirt and whatnot. Dumping it just anywhere would be quite, quite illegal.
What are the prices at public charging in Norway? Does Mercedes Me Charge work there? Great videos BTW.
Bjorn n1 😜
Can you test used Ford Focus Electric? Cheaper than Soul, Ioniq and E-Golf and battery has thermal management. Seems like a better choice used.
13:50 kolumbian snow
Me and wifey are going to Thailand on tuesday 😍
Sabai sabai 👍
I have a US spec 2015 e Golf and when my battery pack is fully charged the KM reading never show that high of a possible distance to o km It must be because the European spec car is not EPA tested so the US spec car will show a more realistic range because when my car was new the EPA estimated range was 83 milles = to 133 km’s so way less than what is shown on this car as 156 km in the winter with possible high consumption rate on average I know with my car in the summer and driving at a slower speed my total distance range shows higher than in the winter because it calculates the previous driving consumption.
The cherry has left the chat
I prefer to enjoy the driving view more
We don't get snow in Thailand
I don't know if that "battery temperature" reading is to be trusted. Look at the sped-up footage from @22:25 on - the cabin temperature fluctuates two orders of magnitude more than the supposed "battery temperature" and I find it somewhat unlikely that Volkswagen have that level of control over their battery temps.
The battery is a 300 kg lump of mostly metal. It changes temperature very slowly, especially when there's no thermal management like in the e-golf.
Bjorn! Dont buy a Soul! If possible lease a car. Isnt that the better option with limited finances? Or are there no good offers in Norway? Here you can find great cars for around 200 EUR/month!
@@aeroauto-h1b yeah, I don’t know what kind of deals you guys have in Norway but I think it’s still the better option if you think about driving with a small child and a pregnant wife. I wouldn’t want to get stranded. Plus if the car breaks down you have to repair it and then all the math was for nothing and you actually didn’t save anything from buying a cheap used car.
How much is the down payment?
@@Scrap-press no downpayment except for most deals you have to pay a „delivery fee“ in Germany between 600-1200 EUR. With my Cupra ST I had to pay 800 EUR. The Citroen C4 I just picked up had no delivery fee and I pay 125 EUR/month for a fully specced version.
For EVs though you had to pay a down payment of the exact price of the government „discount“. That was around 4500 EUR but you always got it back. Now it changed though and there are no gov. discounts anymore.
Regardless of leasing or other kinds of financing, buying a new car means taking on more debt which isn't great if you've just bought a house. Leasing is not cheaper it's just a way to keep the cash flow manageable.
@@torakef sure but you also have warranty and in my case the rates itself are so low it’s a no brainer. Why would you buy a trash car for around 8k instead with the fear in your mind that it could break down any second. No warranty there and then you have even more debt. At least with the lease you have a little peace of mind and probably much more space!
1000 km Challenge with eGolf 31,5 kWh!
Already done
@@bjornnyland of course i meant re-test :P
Doing it „the new way“ ;) see if it would rapidgate then :D (again).
You are driving really slow, is that really realistic ? When i travel this Long distance i cant Drive slower than 95-105 otherwise i Just Fall in sleep
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Hydrogen is the next big deal, until then the car ist still stranded😂😂
Bjørn I love your videos and I would love it if you could make more Tesla model X videos. can you please buy a Model x
Lol
Bjorn doesn't do X videos
Bjørns favuorite; ruclips.net/video/9c-P7BTvmQ0/видео.html
Sorry to say, but ev as a second hand are expensive and first gen range is not good from the start before degradation. Go for a fossil kia soul or ceed.
Hell naw
@@bjornnyland 😂 sheeeeeeeeet! Sun has left the chat!
I'd not even get a car if it meant it wouldn't be electric haha - rather stick with the train
I don’t know who in their right mind would get such car, considering similarly aged diesel golf with these conditions and driving at those speed would do ~1000km in one tank. Also it might actually be cheaper than the DC chargers. And I won’t even mention the end of the life battery that’s due to be changed and means basically the car needs to be scrapped. I am a huge fan of EV technology, but outside of city driving the technology is not there yet!
Ok, so before the EV got popular , for you it would be fine to buy ICE car with 4-5 liter tank?
Here in Prague I get free registration, inspection, pay no taxes, free charging at my flat, free parking and charging at prime spots throughout he city, and I am not contributing to air pollution within the city. The farthest I drive is Plzen- which is around 100 km. That's why I have a eGolf...
Yes, and I actually get something for my taxes, unlike many in other countries... You don't think it is worthwhile for a city and nation to spend tax money to help get cleaner cities and get off of dependance on foreign oil? @@phillipbanes5484
@@stevemcgowen in that case , an EV makes perfect sense. However if you take it to a road trip especially with a family it’s another story…
@@georgiyonevski3894Drop the ego mate