Pakistan Lost - Ep. 04 - The Imposition of Urdu on Pakistan - ft. Mannan Ahmed Asif
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- Pakistan Lost is a series of audio essays on history exploring the choices that were made that impacted millions of people for decades to come.
Episode 4 of the series looks the imposition of Urdu as the National Language of Pakistan.
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So ironic. At 3:00 , Jinnah declaring in English to a Bangla speaking audience that Urdu will be the state language.
@Joy originally jinnah freed Bangladesh in part 1 then mujeeb ur rehman
@@insane_cricshorts free how first killing them in partition then by army
@@insane_cricshorts then why they denied population exchange? Don't be in denial. East Bengal was a kind of free ka mal
And they lapped it up!
@@insane_cricshorts The Bangalees freed themselves in 1947 and we propped up Jinnah as one of the faces of it, he was nothing more
Pakistan studies: urdu was made national language as a symbol of national unity
*East Pakistan left the chat*
East pakistan also used Urdu like their own language along with Bengali
But they were Tricked and divided by some people who hated both West and East pakistan
@@s01224
Bangladeshi now will never go with Pakistan
And what sazish ?
Pakistanis fought with bengalis and india like good neighbors helped them .
@@DrStrange234 lol.. tricked and divided by who?? Mujib??
Dude.. bangladesh funded most of infra projects in Pakistan.. including the capital city Islamabad. And when it came time to give them power, Bhutto declined..
Bangladeshis are fortunate to have left Pakistan 50 years ago. Today they have zero wars, more income & more HDI than Pakistan.. while Pakistan is still going to IMF every year..
@@DrStrange234 Bengalis never had much affection for urdu 😂.. the north Indian states are part of Hindi/urdu belt.. rest of us live our mother tongues
@@DrStrange234 I wonder how a TPE listener can be so delusional
Sidhi language is also recognized as 15th language of Indian 22 languages.
@@Lyallpuriya those language don't have their scriptures
@@Lyallpuriya Don't make fake narrative. Bhojpuri has not any scripture. Angika, bajhika r not language it is just distortion of maithili. Yes maithili has definitely scripture being a maithil my self I can say u maithili and hindi both r ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤. Bujhal hau pakistani bhai.
@@Lyallpuriya i am from Bihar here and I know about languages that you are talking about. And what are you saying is false, bhojpuri and Maithili don't have any script nor much literature. They aren't proper languages. They are broken Hindi different types of Hindi/dialect.
@@Lyallpuriya hindu supremacist indian government ? lol those all language you talked about are part of hindu culture , so if you're blaming govt. for being hindu fundamentalist then they should have forced sanskrit not hindi , it was the secular indian state. and preservation of languages is the work state and center , but by introducing every damn language in curriculum will be so complex .
@@Lyallpuriya This is what half baked knowledge is. To come under the official languages of India there are some criterias. Like many have mentioned there must be some scriptures of their own. But these have the same scripture as Hindi. These are dialects of Hindi. Now i can imagine why Pakistan is suffering.
Even the announcement that Udru will be national language was not made in Urdu. 😮
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Jinnah couldn't speak Urdu himself. He died soon after, so he didn't even have to go through the pain of learning a new language.
Best one boss🔥❤
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Hypo on its peak✌️😂
Excellent video as always,our parents migrated during partition from Bahawalpur to indian Punjab,and they bring with them the Saraiki language and even our kids still speak it more comfortably and fluently at home
Thank you!
@@ThePakistanExperience stupid
@@ThePakistanExperience why not make sanskrit, the civilizational language of indian subcontinent as the national language of pakistan?
Taxila in pakistan and many historical sites like these used to speak sandkrit including kashmir was center of sanskrit till 13th century
@@eliotanderson6554 Sanskrit Grammar was codified by Prof Panini in current Attock district . Punjabi is ancient compared with Urdu and in purest form closer to Sanskrit.
@@eliotanderson6554 Cause Sanskrit is the Divine language of Hinduism. Created by Lord Bramha, It is Deva-vani used for Hindu Theology. Now, Imagine a Muslim nation adopting the language of Hindus, when your government is conservative enough to discriminate against Hindus on a daily basis.
I am from Kerala, India. My mother tongue is malayalam, i speak and understand english and hindi. I am learning german and japanese for the past 2+ years. Languages don't make you superior, it makes you free to explore other cultures and converse people from different regions.
No...
Language is an identity of people and their culture around the World Germans, French, Japanese, many more these people are very conservative approach to their language. They study everything in their mother tongue. They are very proud about their Language.
I belong to the same state which you belong
Malayalam is not a language spoken other than Malayalees its rare and we Malayales are not proud of our language we neglect our language so much.
@@rajeshsivaraman9494 : German knows very good English.
But if you try speaking Hindi with a Tamil, it will end up very bad
We are not Indians. We are Dravidians only :0
@@aaatd7550ger lost you Pakistani
I am from UP and my mother tongue is Hindi (Khariboli/Kauravi dialect of western UP). There is decent population of Punjabis in my hometown and also through songs, I know Punjabi. Haryana is not far from my place, so i know Haryanvi too. I studied English at school, went to Maharashtra for MBBS, so i know Marathi as well. In my college, many of my friends were Gujarati, so i can manage some Gujarati as well. Now, i have been in Chennai for around 5 months for my Post graduation, i am slowly learning Tamil to interact with patients.
So, overall i know Hindi, English, Haryanvi, Punjabi, Marathi, Gujarati, Tamil with variable degree of proficiencies.
but i picked up tamil in 6 months.
coming from a kannada background.
Thanks to Rajnikanth movies.
After all karnataka gave Rajnikanth to tamil nadu.
@@bharath2508 yeah, it's much easier for people who know Kannada/Telugu or Malayalam. But for us who come from Indo - Aryan background, it's a completely new language
Same I am from bihar and my mother tongue is thethi(bihar). I had jaats frnds in teenage. So I know jaati(haryanvi) and being a delhite I know hindi , I studied in English language, and I'm fan of punjabi songs......and now in college I've frnds who spoke urdu . May be seems like khichdi, but it has unique taste.
Hats off .
Lot love from karachi
@@timewaster3882you are from which district of bihar
Imposition of Urdu on Panjab has been the worst thing that happened to us
Magarbi ilm
Partition of Punjab was worst thing
Imposition of Islam too
Look at your names , you were hindus
Now look at Pakistani punjabis acting like Arabs eat meat like wild tribals of Arabia, how far have you people fallen .
There is still time , ghar wapas ajao , we will embrace you pak punjabis with open arms .
Absolutely right ,most important thing is this
@@durgeshsingh5220 bhai tu har jagah heavy urdu comments kyun karr rha hai?🤣
Urdu never was our language 😢
Long live sindhi ❤️
Armaan … Sindhi is recognised in India 😂😂
@@AjitJoshi686 yes but the state was given to pakistan, so our sindhi Hindus here were spread across the world like salt in all dishes, but Sindhis across the world have become developed and moved beyond any hate.
But you have Urdu name Armaan and use urdu language lolz
Sindhi is great language but nothing compares to Urdu
@@DrStrange234 armaan is also a sindhi word. It is also a persian and arabic word.
@@DrStrange234 Armaan is Persian origin.
I'm from Mansehra (KPK) and most people speak Hindko and Gojri language. It's painful to see my elders not teaching these rich languages to their children, causing rich geological, biological and medicinal vocabulary going extinct.
Now I've started to transcribe rare words in my diary to preserve them and I'm optimistic to think that my struggle will at least change the preception of my people that their languages are not backward and rustic languages but have a rich culture and history and knowledge.
Urdu was Born in Awadh region of Uttar Pradesh in India and Urdu is a Recognised Official Language of India, Pakistanis Are free to Speak Urdu in a Punjabi or sindhi Accent we don't have any problem But it's a Fact that Urdu is an Indian Language ,
Urdu cannot be a Pakistani Language
Same way Mexicans Speaks Spanish is not a Maxican language it's Spanish which has come from Spain
Sorry Urdu is a Muslim and Pakistani language
@@apurvabhide2860 Just like Tibetan is a Buddhist language and Spanish a Christian Catholic language?
Since when did inanimate languages become religiously defined?
I'm sorry, but are you stupid? Urdu might've originated there, yes, but that is because 1) Pakistan literally did not exist yet and 2) the MUSLIM Urdu speakers lived there. They then migrated to Pakistan, so yes, Urdu is and has always been a pakistani language. We did not simply adopt it, we *invented* it. Urdu was an identity for Indian Muslims. Claim Hindi if you want to claim a language, why are you lot so obssessed with us?
Abay ollo k patthay! Phir teray baap daada Faiz o Iqbal sahir o Hafiz jallendhari na pakistan ki creation sa pehlay Urdu quon adopt ki? Tum loug apnay bachchoun sa Urdu ma quon baat krtay ho? Urdu sa nafrat ha tu urdu ka peecha chouwrh du!!
The creators of Pakistan thought themselves as successors of Delhi Sultanate. They did not get Delhi so they took the language which is spoken from Delhi to Lucknow. Shah Waliullah was born in Muzaffarnagar and died in Delhi, Galib was born in Agra and died in Delhi. But their language is Pakistani 😂😂😂😂. Of course The Shah was scholar of Arabic and Persian but his mother tongue was Urdu and he used to call himself Dehlawi.
This is our internal matter. Why are you burning from Muslims.
They never wanted Delhi. The creator of Pakistan are in India.
@Gulrez Rana that is because post partition Punjabis from west Pakistan migrated & Urdu speaking migrated to then west Pakistan. Delhi also has migrants from East Pakistan which is CR Park. Curiously the Punjabi migrants used to call their mother tongue as Hindi, so in 1980s Bangla was no 2 language at Delhi. Lucknow also had it share of migrants but much less than Delhi so Urdu remained prevalent.
@Gulrez Rana Things can improved fast. Eg allow local languages to prosper , recruit local Police and bureaucracy. On religion front create own schools without being dependent on Deoband or Barely . These monasteries in India have moved ahead but their followers in Pakistan are still behind.
@Gulrez Rana that was after the Barelvis realised the deobandis were calling the shots. Pre partition the M league had tied up with Barelvis to win elections.
Talk about Urdu; but in English.; that’s how complex the matter is. Thanks for the research and upload. U are doing this nation a favor which is unmatched.
Dono equally official languages hain Pakistani kee so I guess both are equally Pakistani 😅
@@ThePakistanExperience Wise choice man; very wise choice; not just language but the subject matter. Bhai Vigo aur daloun say bach kay rehna.
@@ThePakistanExperience dono official language nahi hai
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@@ThePakistanExperience u realise ur speaking urdu right now? it literally is the national language of Pakistan. Say smth in urdu Punjabis, Sinshis, pretty much everyone will understand. Sindhi/Punjabi on the other hand? not so much. heck, the two groups can't even understand each other. Y'know what they can understand tho? thats right, urdu. Almost like its the national language and those are needed for a reason.
The problem of Urdu wouldn't be there if there was no Pakistan. The imposition of Urdu as a national language is not only the Urdu speaking populace's fault. The Punjabi elite spoke and wrote this language and they wholeheartedly supported this imposition. The Punjabis are in the majority and they impose their will in different matters all the time. They never stood up for their language and literature of this language as it didn't suit their lifestyle.
Hence the punjabis of pakistan are most confused people with low self esteem. Which will cost them heavily, eventually.
We punjabis, in India, fought for our mother tongue.That is our identity.
True Mohtarma....
@@durgeshsingh5220
Dont use urdu my brother
We must end this language at all cost and help Pakistanis embrace their past .
Pakistanis punjabis must return to their roots
Come back our pujabis ❤
@A A True!
Another factor--binds the identity of being muslims of subcontinent.
I once had a talk with kashmiri(indian)muslim, who said and i quote ''I am really worried about my children, who after schooling went to delhi, for further studies.They never had the time to learn proper urdu in an elite school(not in kashmir), and now only english''.
To which I asked, how does it matter? Don't her kids know kashmiri? She looked at me in wonder and then thoughtfully.
I mean really???
I don't know why people hate Urdu .
Punjabi people and many poets used Urdu and farsi for poetry and for communication to people of different background.
I live in the Maharashtra state and in most of the schools we are taught English, Hindi and Marathi. We are taught to communicate with the whole world while also keeping our own culture and language alive.
Tumchi??
When i went out of karachi, i never saw a single guy speaking urdu with the same accent, having the same stereotypes, i might disagree that urdu is being imposed on pakistani people.
Yes it has. Both Urdu and English are imposed on our people. Killing the flourishing our native languages, their vocabulary and centuries old knowledge.
Fun Fact: Even Sindhi, Kashmiri, Bangla and Urdu are Official Languages of India. There is so much wrong with Pakistan that I am glad My forefathers did not Ended up that side of the Border.
They are official only in their state governments along with English and Hindi used to communicate with the centre
English is the official language of India.
In Pakistan also many languages are official language category, urdu is a national language and India doesn't have one
@@vinsin328 There is a correction. English is one of the 22 official languages of India.
English and Hindi is the only official language of india....
These series is ❤. The graphics, narration and how it all comes together is just perfect! Thanks for this Shehzad.
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You will find south indian muslim speaks Urdu instead of local language eg Hyderabad has telegu language. Such is the desire to prove thier Arabic lineage.
It is only in karnataka and Hyderabad.. Kerela and tamil muslim do not speak urdu
Andhra lo ekkada maatladtaaru ra? Akkada muslims kooda telugu eh maatladataaru, maa turaka friends evarki urdu raadhu. Generalize cheyyodhu
They speak Urdu because they generally hail from North India or are converted and assimilated into a North Indian origin Muslim community.
And that's make them different from extreme southern muslims, who for some even predate the Urdu language genesis !
In Tamilnad, you have both, and both are distinguished by that origin fact. People of North Indian or Deccan Sultanates extract tend to have Urdu as a mother tongue, whereas those from earlier Muslim communities or converted and assimilated by them tend to have Tamil or Malayalam as mother tongues.
There is even a Pathan community in the Northern half of Tamilnad, claiming Pakhtun ancestry ! They are Urdu native speakers.
But yes, Urdu used to be a statue maker in some areas at some times and among certain people.
Urdu is not Arabic. Urdu was in south before Hindi and was used as a lingua franca
@@Abdullah-uv9nk ok 😂😂😂 so much for.....hume gaddar kyu kaha jaata hai..
Despite being a multilingual country, Pakistan has a complex relationship with its languages. While Urdu is the official language, many regional languages like Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi, and Saraiki are spoken by millions of people.
However there is a disconnect between spoken and written forms of these languages.
- Punjabi is widely spoken in Pakistan, but its script, Gurmukhi, is not commonly used in Pakistan. Instead, the Persian-Arabic script is used to write Punjabi.
- Sindhi, Balochi, and Saraiki languages have their own scripts, but they are not widely used in education or official contexts.
This disconnect has historical and political roots. The promotion of Urdu as the national language has led to a neglect of regional languages and scripts. Additionally, the use of Persian-Arabic script for writing regional languages has been encouraged, which has contributed to the decline of indigenous scripts.
This has resulted in a loss of cultural heritage and a disconnection from the linguistic and literary traditions of the region. Many Pakistanis are unable to read or write in their native languages, and instead, rely on Urdu or English for education and official purposes.
It's important for Pakistan to recognize and address this issue, promoting linguistic diversity and preserving regional languages and scripts. This would enrich the country's cultural heritage and strengthen regional identities.
I am so grateful to our forefathers that actually made Urdu the National Language of Pakistan. Not only has made this Pakistan integrate better but just the shear Beauty of this Language; oh man what can I say. Speaking Urdu doesn't mean you have to abandon your other mother languages but no Language in the entire Sub-Continent can match the glory of the language of Mughal Darbar. Just like French is considered the posh language of west, Urdu is the French of indian region. The language of Love, Poetry and Indian Royality.
اردو ہے جس کا نام ہمیں جانتے ہیں داغ
سارے جہاں میں دھوم ہماری زباں کی ہے
Bhai koi ek lafz aisa bata jo urdu ka apna originated ho? aur to kya sab zabanein mghatya aur neech hain agar urdu koi waqai asmani zaban hai.
@@safeeruttero786 urdu is the evolution of old hindustani language, it mixed many of the northern Indian languages with persian arabic turkish and many others. It resulted in giving the northern indian languages this royal touch of middle eastern languages. Moreover the work done for translation of Islamic Holy Books to Urdu gave it the the status of Muslim language of india but its secular use is also well preserved. And urdu is not an Asmani language but its definite status as the National language of Pakistan has surely helped in integrating Pakistan as a Nation, we can go anywhere in Pakistan and never have to think about the language problem. Its something we can appreciate when our country has so much problems urdu has at-least only helped in this regard. Also as a I wrote before we don’t need to abandon other native language as urdu is derived from them and their is a lot of common vocabulary among urdu and native languages.
@@BrokenSoldier1515 Urdua gave us Bangladesh, clearly not uniting us. Translation of Islamic books? Sindhi was the first language into which Holy Quran was translated. So you answered yourself that it is not itself a language but a mixture of other languages without its original vocabulary. What do you mean by Royal Touch? Invader's touch, right?
@@safeeruttero786Bengali is an eastern indian language which eventual led to this clash, even today if you see in india there is still clash of languages of north india with south and eastern languages. Bangladesh topic requires much more debate than just urdu, moreover bengali got eventual national language status, it was more about political landscape of that time. Sindh was of course the gate of Islam for india but the eventual work done by urdu; you cannot compare it with any other language, still Sufia Karam and other Ulema also used persian and their own languages, this exact usage of mixture was what led to evolution of hindustani to urdu. Also I dont know what “asli alfaaz” are you talking about; all the languages today are somehow evolution of an old language, even the language we are discussing in “English” it also evolution of an old english which itself was a mixture of north germanic languages. Invaders🤓🤓 dont know what are you talking about, the very first mughal kings do descended from todays region of Afghanistan but Afghanistan itself is a mixture of india persi and central asia, it can be considered an extension of hindustan, maybe not an extension but what is the boundary of india, it is just like defining boundary of europe. And no Mughal dynasty was not an outsider, they are an Indian dynasty and all their lineage is indian. In your sense no one is pure indian today because india saw a lot of migration and mixing with the native indians, we cannot even tell who the native Indians were. They lived I think if I am not wrong like 6000 yeras before so no one knows about them, even the indus valley people where did they come from? A theory says africa as indian sub-continent drifted from africa, so we all are Africans
@@BrokenSoldier1515 What work has been done by Urdu I think you are unaware of pre-urdu/Mughal history, and yes Bangladesh wasn't just the fault of Urdu but still, Urdu give this topic a fire and even Bengalis accept that they fought for the Bengali language. Islam came in the 7th century Urdu is nearly 300-400 years old so what just Urdu and Islam in India have to take with each other? Yes there is a North-South language problem in India but they are living happily and didn't get separated because Hindi isn't Imposed on South Indians. And Mughals (BABUR) came from samarkand, they have direct relationship with Genghis Khan in Mangolia.
Thank you for adopting Urdu as National language and thank you for the partition. We Indians are extremely grateful 🙏
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Thank God finally Indians are grateful of Pakistani people 🇵🇰
@@danielharrison1065 if Pakistanis had stuck with us we would have been a collective chaos. It was kind of them to keep the madness confined on their side.
@@rajneeshsharma9049 ofcourse Indian politics is taking great advantage of existence of Pakistan especially BJP
@@danielharrison1065 I am not BJP's cadre. I haven't ever voted in any elections. But it certainly proves my point. I didn't blame Pakistan for India's problems but you seem to suggest that BJP is somewhat responsible for Pakistan's present state. Pakistanis have been high on multiple things since 1947 one of which is conspiracy theories. Thank you again fellow Pakistani. Have a great future. Good riddance for us Indians.
Southern states of india protested against hindi as official language. Therefore, English was adopted as official language as well. Even today hindi is taught as a subject in whole India, not all subjects but just one single subject for few years in school. Indian leadership at the independence quelled the problem of imposing a language in 1950s n 60s. Pakistan should have learnt from it.
It's Because India has a True democracy.
Discussions, Consultations, Debates take place before deciding upon something.
Whereas in Paksitan, whatever the Army General says becomes the law.
If Army General decides that Arabic will be the national language of Pak, then it will be done.
So they were ok with a completely foreign colonial language such as English and not with a language such as Hindi?? That’s quite the shame I think
@@wkhan5 that's the issue.. for the rest of us.. Hindi or Urdu are also foreign.. we'd rather learn lingua franca of the current world order i.e. English and our mother tongues e.g. Marathi, Tamil, Telugu etc.
Hindi comes 3rd in the Peking order.
@@pm6127 as I said before- that is a real shame indeed
@@wkhan5 and what will we get with Hindi imposition ? You already saw how Pakistan lost 1971 civil war.
Both India and Pakistan are vastly diverse countries, and you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT impose any language in such a diverse country.
Stop with your idiotic thoughts.
My ancestors migrated from jhang to east Punjab and that was the dialect of Punjabi that was spoken by my grandparents, but it slowly died off unfortunately. Now if I ever wanna hear it I have to look up Pakistani videos by native jhangi speakers. So I’m glad it’s still spoken in Pakistan and Urdu imposition hasn’t killed it.
I can't live with Hindu
I can't live with Bengali
I can't live with Baloch
I can't live with shia
I can't live with phakthoon
I can't live with Sindhi
The list goes on
Fisrt line was thought of by Muslim league in 1906
Other lines followed/will follow
Because the thought process is same
I speak 3 languages, English in office, Hindi in public and Malvi at home and with relatives. That's how it works in India, we value all our languages. We have to balance all in order to make sure our Mother tongue doesn't get extinct.
That's the way to do it
@@ThePakistanExperience You can follow to 😄😄
Same here.. And since I studied for a while in Tamil Nadu, I can speak in 4 languages(but not fluently as I would like though) - Telugu, Kannada, Tamil, Hindi
@@rkk15 same here 4 language 👍 and it may sound very confusing or difficult for non Indians but it's very natural for us
most of the indian speaks 3 lang some people think that all north , east , west indians mother tongue is hindi , no not at all we all have our mother tongue we learn hindi coz most of india understands it and to become social . english , mother tongue and hindi are our lang. we love hindi and our mother tongue both we love hindi and our mother tongue .
I have Sindhi Hindu Friends in India.
They are quite intelligent, do well at academics and are generally from wealthy business familes.
Yep. most sindhis in india are traders who live in formerly refugee towns.. pretty rich & insulated community.. with most surnames ending in 'Ni' e.g. advani, pehlani, nilani
Im sindhi, i do cry the over a partition of our homeland sindh. The real heros the real owners of sindh we got migrated in India. We r happy to be Indian.
We started from very scratch.
We came in india without any recognition.
But Muslims came in pakistan with great recognition but still they call themselves mohajirs and don't accept the being sindhis after living in sindh from 76years
Yeah sindhi people are really great I recently married to a sindhi girl, and she converted to Islam and she so lovely I can't tell
@@notofyourneed5728 she didn't convert , you Brainwashed her into converting Islam.
@@notofyourneed5728 ye tumlog hr kisi ko convert karne ke chakkar me q rahte ho bhailog😂
2500 years ago when Panini was compiling the Sanskrit grammar, he already acknowledged the language variety in India and that is why for thousands of years, all Indian dynasties and empires had both their own language and Sanskrit going hand in hand. All of the languages survived. This is what happens when a mindset alien to the land decides on these stuff.
The imposition was incredibly important and useful - allows various ethnicities to communicate with each other through a common medium, Urdu. This model works in Singapore, China and many other countries, sometimes "imposition" is needed for nation building in various areas
Also India is united because of English as the national language - that's the common medium! And the idea that Urdu is not spoken widely in Pakistan - that's just not true, it is widely understood across the country
@@absan415 Bro the only sane comment I have seen so far, and that too from a fellow Pakistani. I totally agree with you, like it's no point to REVERSE things after 75 years even when urdu itself is dying here. And lastly it's really disturbing that this channel has been infested with Indians because of a notorious video with titles relating to that country. And now they are here to impose each and every opinion their way.
@@absan415 india is not united because of English you idiot, india is united because of Hindi and all the regional languages including the dialects .
Even though we use Hindi as a link language ( minus south) but that doesn’t mean we care less about our regional language and mother tongue . We have a three language system , Hindi , English and regional language.
@@huzifavesos you didn't even understand the video. It's not an attack on Urdu. It's just saying that provinces should have had their own languages in the educational system with local laws and offices. Regional languages should be taught and be mandatory. Sign boards of Punjabi pashto etc should be placed.
@@biggdaddyy Nobody cares for your hindi in non-hindi speaking states.
Some of the self hating morons in north might have accepted that being hindu is equal to hindi, just like pakistan=urdu.
And you are showing them, they are correct, urdu being connecting link is right.
You can partially impose languages in india(coz large portion of india refuse to speak in hindi, rather prefer english), but you can never unite them culturally. That is thousand of years of differences.
Bhai totally relatable our youth can barely write a complete paragragh in Urdu hence can't even spell Complete Urdu alphabets
Growing up and almost till my early 20s I used to think that Hindi is the only National for India. However, now wiser and well travelled, i accept my earlier view of a National Language was flawed and narrow minded.
I now regret to have not learned Tamil, Marathi, or Punjabi when I had the chance!
Indias only strength is accepting and celebrating its diversity!
Well done!
@@ThePakistanExperience No, well done you for having such difficult conversations and challenging the status quo! Jon Stewart would be proud of you! I do not find many in India hosting such difficult conversations.
It was wonderful that you mentioned Amrita Pritam ...(just shows the depth of your education level)... I actually studied in college with her grand daughter!!!
Wow. We should do a poetry series.
Urdu and English should be the official languages, but regional languages should be recognised and should be taught at regional level. In my view Pakistan should have multiple official languages. It is unethical and disrespectful to let all languages and cultures of Pakistan die because of one language imposition.
I agree
It's never too late ever, to learn. 👍
@@ThePakistanExperience i disagree, language doesn't matter,if some languages disappear so what, ideology matters
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@@user-vn5gy7ng3x languages develop ideologies. Languages develops a person's thinking. So yes it does matter. Language creates a culture.
I will give you an example. There is a words called "hikigumoru" which means a person who stays at home and doesn't comes out. Or the word "Isekai" which is a type of media where a person does and goes into another world. These words are in Japanese. These words were developed by their culture.
There is a language in Australia where the natives spoke in a language where there is no directional words meaning forward, left, right, behind. They use north, south, east, west. Physiologically there was a difference between them. They thought about things differently. You know when you tell someone to look at the left and then you say your other left yeah that confusion isn't their in those people. Their sense of direction is much better than ours.
So this colonialism mindset is just bad.
@@osamaanees8406 its not colonial mindset its PROPAGANDA this FAT MO*ON is sreading.
If PAKISTAN wants to remain in one piece they should hold the rope of URDU.
What does bangladesh get by getting independence from PAKISTAN. Today bangladesh is nothing but a satellite 🛰️📡 state of India. No one can come to Power in Bangladesh without the mercy of india. india rigs the election of bangladesh,there are death squads killing people in Bangladesh if you spoke against the government or india
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My native language is hindko, it's understandable why alot of pakistanis are against urdu. It was difficult for my parents to understand when they went to school. But it is a good thing to have urdu and english as the national languages its easier to talk to people in the country with.
In the Indian subcontinent you can't have only 1 language as the national language... realized by Indian leadership but wholly missed by Pak leadership.
میں لکھنوی ہوں اور میری مادری زبان اردو، میرے والدین کی زبان اردو، میرے آبا و اجداد کی زبان اردو لیکن پھر بھی انتہا پسندوں (ہندو اور مسلم) کی نظر میں مجھ جیسے لوگوں میں کچھ گڑبڑ ہے 😂
Same here 🤗
@@ketikteks you're also from Lucknow?
I am happy you showed the correct map of India, being a Pakistani that was very brave of you😅
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what does happiness do. its not reality.
LOC will always be defacto international border.
As an Indian, one can never visit Gilgit and Skardu like one does Gulmarg and Srinagar.
Both Pakistan and China has Kashmir too.
Better accept it sooner or later.
day dreaming with Ajit Dovel of taking back Aksai Chin is futile.
This is a route of pseudo-nationalism in India.
Shehzad, Great video. I'm south Indian. In our schools we are given the option to select three languages. Many learn their native language as the first, English as the second and Hindi as the third. Fluency in speaking Hindi suffers as it's the third, but it helps learn and stay connected with North India.
Interesting that Hindi is the third, the thing is flipped in Pakistan where Urdu becomes first, English as the second and the mother tongue third, or not at all.
@@ThePakistanExperience In CBSE and ICSE (Central boards of education), you can choose any of the scheduled Indian languages or foreign languages as your 2nd and 3rd language even if the school does not offer it. If the school does not offer a language, during the registration process for the boards , a student can pick any language as 2nd and 3rd language and then study for those exams privately.
The State Boards prioritize their own language. In English medium state boards, English is the default, the 2nd language is the State language with Hindi usually being the 3rd language.
Another unique thing, let me tell you is that we have Sindhi colleges in Bombay. They were established by wealthy Sindhis and they have linguistic quotas for Sindhi students. Being a Sindhi myself, I was in one such college for 11th and 12th. I got in without the quota but the Sindhi students who got admission through the quota had Sindhi as a supplementary subject. Only 2 classes a week as opposed to 5 classes for all other subjects. I never got to learn to read and write in Sindhi and today even I myself regret it. I had the option of attending those classes but never cashed in on it. What's more is these are all partially State-funded colleges.
@Football-Pundit this much hate for north India and hindi. Wow!
@@sleepyhead0139 it isn't hate, it is their choice not to learn hindi. I've spoken to many tamilians, an overwhelming majority of them say that hindi isn't the problem, imposition is the problem. We as north Indians had the privilege to learn it cause hindi has a great degree of commonality with our languages (such as Awadhi, Bundeli, Braj, maithili, etc) but south Indian languages come from completely different language family. Imagine someone forcing a language like Chinese, a language of completely different language family , on us.
Now from modi governments new education policy,we can choose third language whichever we want.
I am a non Tulu mother tongue guy in a Tulu region of Karnataka,i would have loved to learn Tulu as my third language.
i m from India my mother tongue is Urdu , but i suggest u all pakistani to learn English as ur primary language , because English is more important in daily life than Urdu
My ancestors were the great Kushans. They spoke Tocharian. It boils my blood that neither the mention of Kushan dynasty nor of Tocharian language was in my school textbooks.
Bro live in present, who ever your ancestors were that doesn't matter now, now only matters what are going to do for your future generations
Thats because your ancestors were poor kings. They lost and history forgot them😂.
@Aryan then unfollow ram and sita mythology and get a life
Yes but in school i was forced to learn sindhi, which i couldnt relate with.
Pakistan has. Language of India Urdu.
Religion of Saudis. Islam.
Culture of India.
Land of Vedas, where the four ved were written.
It has nothing of it's own.
Even the surnames are Sikh and Hindus.
Same can be said for Americans. Language of the Brits, land of native americans, religion of levant. Language does not belong to a region, it belongs to the people who speak and understand it. Religion does not belong to a land, but the one who believes in it. And as far is culture is concerned, we are punjabis, sindhis, baltis, baloch, pakhtoon, urdu speaking. The culture we follow is not yours to claim. And land of the vedas? What an insightful criteria for you to determine the ownership of a land. Its all ours.
@@nabeel7597 Atleast America is the World Superpower, what pakistan is ?
@@nabeel7597but white American are considered as colonizer and invader by natives till today
So u are telling u should be also recognised as invaders.
U should be amazed that Sindhi Language (that originally belongs to Sindh) is also one the 22 official languages of India... this is how great India is in claiming, conserving and securing its roots and its heritage.....
I never learned Urdu because my urdu teachers were absolute assholes & made me hate the language lol
Ha ha ha
Excellent video.
In India, for 70% of our provinces & 60% of the population the mother tongue is not Hindi ... and while from time to time the centre has tried to expand the use of Hindi, such attempts have been looked at with suspicion outside the Hindi-speaking areas. Well, from what I hear from you (and others) about what happened with Urdu in Pakistan, it appears that any Indian attempts to 'impose' Hindi have been extremely mild ... and am I thankful for that!
In India, basic literacy in all states & territories is in the local language, as is the medium of instruction for the 'masses'. Our education system has a '3-language formula' which allows the typical student to be exposed to English, the local language AND Hindi ... though other combinations are possible. Hindi grows organically, through exposure to movies & television for example.
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Correction. Meger 42 percent speaks hindi, that too an inflated value as thr govt. Adds more and more language into the hindi culture even though they are from other branches.
@@bibhubratadash1836 that's what i said -- i said for 60%, mother tongue is NOT Hindi.
@@avjtyahoo sorry brother. Skipped the not word. Just like central govt. Skips the development of other languages 🙂
The beauty of Urdu is that if you lie in it they would say ' wow, wow and wow !' and won't even catch that you are lying. In certain circumstances, it could be embarrassing or down right dangerous.
Sab nahi sirf Punjabi jab Urdu bolte hai tab lagta hai jhooth bol rahe hain😝😝
My mother tongue is Urdu i am from kanpur 😊
Urdu is language native to india.
Every language is beautiful in its own way. Thank you for the brilliant show. And a very bold one. You are doing great work. All the best to you.
P.S. As modern studies have found out that best results are achieved if kid is taught in his mother tongue.
I am GOB SMASHED that some people in Pakistan find Punjabi "foul". Like WTF ?!?!?!!!!! I am no fan of Punjabi rap but artists like Honey Singh were very popular in a non-Punjabi speaking region like Guwahati, Assam (I studied there for a while).
Most of these Punjabi singers are anti India and pro Khalistan
A nation carved out in the name of religion with multiple cultures is bound to fail. United India (Akhand Bharat in Hindi) is the only solution, whether it's 10 years from now or 100.
amazing video shehzaad im shocked to learn that pakistan people dont even know who bhagat singh was here in india in school we have a chapter name akbar the great history should be taught as it was.
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Your attempt to create these amazing "subject pieces" are truly educational and insightful. kudos to you brother.
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I am a Gujrati and it hurts to see how Gujrati language slowly died in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan 🇵🇰
Pakistani Gujarati could have used Gujarati language to warm up Modi who is Gujarati 😊😊
Modi is Gujarati 😊. Gujarati is preserved in Indian Gujarat. Almost every state has different language in India.
Atleast u people try your effort to teach your kids and next generation...don't let your language died
Writing from India. I've been non stop watching podcasts by you and some of the podcasters in Pakistan. I feel sad in a way india might not have so many great ones. But I so agree with this video. I come from a South Indian state called Karnataka. The language is kannada and I'm glad it is not pushed down. It's older than Hindi or Urdu. India has tried to make Hindi the national language back in the 60s but thankfully failed as it was met with violent protests and suicides in non Hindi states. I can speak Hindi or English with a non kannada speaker so it serves the purpose.
Surprisingly Sindhi and Punjabi are official languages in India while Sindhi is not a majority in any state.
Also I feel so sad that Pakistan has forgotten its history and you have rightly mentioned Pakistan's history is way old and richer than post 712 AD. Majority of Indus valley civilization was in what is so called Pakistan today!
Bro your languages in south have rich history and literature even Sanskrit was based on Dravidian script but here in Pakistan it's not the case most of the languages are oral tribal languages even the current punjab province have multiple languages only the Central part of Punjab has the writing and the literature removing urdu would led a more chaotic situation since saraikis are protesting to have their own province which situated in south of punjab and North of punjab also had a different language called “Potgwari” spoken in pothwar region. Don't get fooled by Pakistan map it shows that it has four provinces but that's not the complete picture it has multiple ethnicities with thier languages and customs so please understand.
Originally Bangla was written in the same script as urdu and Arabic. They later changed it
@@beautyzline5194right that, we all have our own writing script and have tons and tons of literature which dates back to more than 10000 years
@@TonyStark-mm6qy 10000? The oldest and first written language appears to be around 5400 years ago what are you on about.
@@beautyzline5194 Check out about Tamil bro and search for Keezhadi . Tamil civilization is said to be the oldest civilization, even older than Mesopotamia civilization and humans have been our earth for 200k years . So 10000 is way less 🤷🏻♂️
Tamil, an Indian language is the oldest language in the world, which is still spoken and even written in it's purest form !!!!!
Urdu imposition was a mistake and I am glad that many South Indian states are preserving their culture and languages by pushing back against Hindi imposition. Such an imposition can be seriously harmful. Amazing video!
I Can't emphasize enough how coherent your your argument is.... ❤
جب شعور کی کمی ہو تو ایسے نظریات جنم لیتے ہیں۔ مشترکہ زبان کی ضرورت آج بھی مانی جاتی ہے۔
@shehzad I watched this yesterday and had to step away so I can think this through. So here are my thought.
1) The core question is does a new or any country need an official language ? The answer to that question is Yes it does. Because it allows the government to communicate with its citizens. Every law that is passed, every road sign, every official document, every speech on the national level has to be done in a language that can be understood by majority of its population. Even if a country does not declare a "national" language it still uses a specific language to communicate with its citizens. So it becomes a matter of semantics if India has an official language or not. Because it uses Hindi as the defacto national language at Federal level.
2) So now the next question is "Was choosing Urdu the right decision ?". I don't think it works that way in the real world. Every decision made at that level has unintended consequences. Your choices usually are to choose between the worst to least worst. Ideally we should have chosen Bengali as the official language as it was the language of the majority or Punjabi. In both the cases all the things you have mentioned would still have happened. So you are stuck with the least worst option. I think the idea was that Urdu would force the majority to adapt. Also it was the language of the elites so it won out.
3) But just because Urdu became the national language doesn't mean that other languages "lost". We have a problem at societal level where we look down on arts. Culture is spread through art. In all other places its the elites (Artist, Scholars, Professors, Rich folks you know the actual elites not the bastardized version we have in Pakistan) that promote art, language and culture. The last Sindhi singers that I am aware of were Alan Faqeer and Shazia Khusk. Where are the rest ? The same with Baloch artist. Or Punjabi artist or Urdu artist. Does the local culture promotes their own artist ? We as a society put all artist in the box of marasi and the wonder why the language and arts is dying. We could have any language spoken in Pakistan and we would be at the same spot.
4) We as a society have to understand that it is beyond our government to do its basic job. So we have to build a better world around us. I will give you a real world example. Go on RUclips and try to search "Pakistani Stand-up". You will see clips from 2 or more years ago. What is stopping you or any other stand up to put up clips on RUclips ? How do you expect to be discovered by someone in Dadu or DG Khan if they cant discover you ? I know the answer is that there is no infrastructure or people arent ready and so on. But someone has to build it. And it order for you to become successful you need it to be built. So put stuff on RUclips and get the ball rolling. You already have an example in Tabish who made it to mainstream through this process. The dramas, the movies, the books everyone is waiting for someone to magically solve the problem. Thats why our culture is dying. Not just sindhi or balochi or punjabi all our culture is dying.
I am North Indian ❤ from Uttarpradesh I was born and brought up in ❤ Mumbai ❤. Marathi is the local language of Mumbai .Mumbai has a multicultural society yet Marathi is a must . Switching to another language changes people completely i was considered dumb student and very poor in basic communication because every student in my school speaks in their own mother in public but my mother was considered funny,stupid and sometimes inferior to others This really impacted my understanding about my own culture and look down to my self because this is how Bollywood portraits bhojpuri or avdhi speaking people thanks god thing are changing now but very slow still bihari speaking person is labour or illiterate, bhojpur,avdhi, purvanchal are not much celebrated in Mumbai society
I found little content and I hope this helps everyone to be under the importance of "Mother tongue"
Mother tongue plays a crucial role in the development and preservation of a culture's heritage. It is often the primary means through which a community expresses its values, traditions, and beliefs, and it serves as a repository of the community's history and cultural identity. The use and preservation of mother tongue are essential for passing down cultural knowledge from one generation to the next. It helps to maintain cultural diversity and ensure that each community's unique voice and perspective are heard and celebrated. Additionally, a strong connection to one's mother tongue can contribute to a sense of belonging and pride in one's heritage, leading to greater cultural appreciation and understanding.
Forcing a society to switch to another language instead of their mother tongue can have significant negative effects. It can lead to a loss of cultural identity and heritage, as the community's unique language and traditions are replaced by those of another culture. The loss of mother tongue can also make it difficult for individuals to express themselves fully, leading to a sense of alienation and disconnection from their community. In addition, language is closely tied to cognitive development and learning, so a sudden shift to a different language can lead to educational and developmental setbacks for children and adults alike. Overall, forcing a society to switch to another language can have long-lasting and far-reaching consequences that can impact both individuals and communities
Such beautiful research done about language
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Urdu is our language and pakistani have stolen our language. In my state UP all signboards airports, railways, roads, government buildings, etc are written in Urdu along with English and Hindi, UP state education has Urdu as one of the main subject.
Yet you can't speak Urdu. Not know how to pronounce and always mixed Hindi with Urdu.
Finally, someone made a video about it from Pakistan . Don't get me wrong, but by enforcing urdu, the Pakistani elite actually damaged the language itself inside pakistan. I heard that Muhajirs are good urdu speakers in pakistan, and Punjabis made Punjabi mixed urdu, which is really bad to hear 😅. Correct me if I am wrong?
I eard Pakistani Punjabis (commoners) speaking in Urdu, and yes, they seem to have a tick Punjabi accent sometimes, which is making doubt if they speak in Urdu or Punjabi.
There are many Punjabi who actually speak fluent Urdu.
List of Punjabi poets who wrote Urdu poetry.
Just not Urdu ab har language mixed horhi hai.
Take English is mixed in our languages.
@@7hehwaar look up matruka sindh
Lots of Punjabis speak Urdu really well. Literacy rate is terrible hence you don’t see those outside rich urban areas speak Urdu or even their own mother tongue well.
@Abdullah-uv9nk ya ofcourse Faiz, and some other legendary urdu poets are Punjabis, but overall, large no of news anchors of pakistan speaks very mixed punjabi urdu on pakistani channels. Even cricketers & many celebrities of pakistan do the same. So, no offense to Punjabis, but this imposition of urdu actually contributed a lot to damage fluency among your natives.
After all the arguments presented in the video I am still unable to understand how a country can get by without a lingua franca. Is it not possible to promote regional languages without criticizing the presence of a national language? When did Quade Azam say "don't promote your regional language"?
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Not recognising other languages and calling them enemies has the same effect; it relegates all other languages.
He's sindhi, he hates urdu because he is sponsored by sain sarkar.whos stopping these sindhi rascals from promoting their language.sindhi is forced upon students doing matric and inter.what else do you want?Speak against racist quota system introduced by racist sindhi qoum parasts but he never will as he himself is sindhi.
Jinnas family lives in India. His family no more Muslim also.
Gandhi Nehru family are also no more hindu
Times change family change too
@@DrStrange234 Religious Hindus never considered those bastards as Hindu from day 1.
Thanks from India. Explained it so lucidly.
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In India gujrat ,punjab, bengal , assam, marathi, telgu, tamil,, kannad ,, malayalam all are recognised as an official languages in their own state.we promote our culture our languages.
Sir urdu up ki hai Hmare desh m hm apni mother tongue m baat krete hai jese ki jammu ki dogri kashmir ki kashmiri
Both common pakistani and Indian citizen do not realise that Urdu was originated in India only...It's our language.. We Indians had always denied this fact by saying that it was never our language and Pakistani govt imposed it on there citizen by saying that it's their language,where it was hardly spoken by few people...what an irony this is...
Urdu originated in Hindustan , all common citizens of South Asia know that even kids
Urdu is ❤ of Hindustani culture ethos
It is te to embrace this and leave out differences
Urdu wss meant to link all south Asians into one united empire before British ruined it .
Urdu originated with people. Urdu speaker migrated to Pakistan in Mostly in Sindh and Punjab.
And rest in India.
Now here’s the funny thing: the biggest proponents of Urdu as the national language of pakistan were themselves not native Urdu speakers themselves. Mr Jinnah‘s mother tongue was Gujerati although he had pretty much adopted English as his first and only spoken language. He was never heard speaking in Urdu or Gujerati in public. Liaquat Ali was Punjabi. Sardar Abdur Rab Nishtar was a Pashtun, Khwaja Nazimuddin was Bengali, Feroz Khan Noon was Punjabi. In fact if you go through the list of all the leaders from Pakistan’s inception until now with the exception of Parvaiz Musharraf, not a single one has been a native Urdu speaker. So the imposition of Urdu as the lingua franca if you really wish to put the blame had to be on the political elite that sees it as an extension and an integral part of the two nation theory and by default a necessary tool to keep the two nation theory alive. The rationale being that Muslims of India as a separate nation from the Hindu majority were also culturally and linguistically different to them and adopting Urdu as the national language of muslim pakistan was as critical as adopting a blanket muslim identity for the newly formed nation. It was and remains a bad idea and I say this as a native Urdu speaker. Although it’s usefulness as a language of communication between the country’s multi lingual population has some merit
I think almost all of them studied from the same university which was built by sir Syed Ahmed Khan. That's why some one said that Pakistan to {insert that university name} ki sazieh thi. I don't clearly remember the details. The place in which they studied had these Urdu = Muslim and two nation ideas. Now a days in Pakistan HSN college acts like that university where many political leaders like Khan Sahab studied from.
That Loralai really hit the spot
Pretty good analysis of the language issue. Found the last part by Prof. Manan quite educational.
Thank you!
Lovely video.. crisps naration and clear justifications to arguments.
I have never forgot one sentence from the book 'India after Gandhi' that "language is stronger force than religion". The glaring example is creation of Bangladesh. Thankfully our forefathers (Indian) realised this too early and made federal (almost autonomous) states based on languages. This theory was further proven right few years after Independence. There was 'united Maharashtra' state which had two languages, Marathi and Gujarati. But eventually they couldn't go along well and divided in two states .. gujrat and Maharashtra. There is even violent history over ownership of Bombay (now Mumbai) which eventually went to Maharashtra. Today these both states are doing well using that opportunity as a lesson and cooperating with each other. Do you see any similarity here?
No?
Let me explain (which no one has ever said, but it's my own observation). Let's say United Maharashtra was united india. And Mumbai was Kashmir. There is violent history to India Pakistan partition too. Kashmir went to India and Pakistan both partly. But what India Pakistan couldn't do later is what Maharashtra and Gujrat did.
Coming back to language. Whenever I listen Bollywood songs on FM radio where they play random songs.. most of them are either Punjabi or have Punjabi words. I always joke that Bollywood assumes that all Indians know Punjabi. But i know very well that there are Marathi, gujrati or even South Indian words in the songs and this diversity is very well taken.
It's really sad that many Pakistani speak Punjabi but Devmukhi script is lost there. In contrast, it's thriving in India. Our currency has its denomination written in all the official languages including Urdu and Sanskrit.
To go into more details, even in Marathi (our mother tongue) , we have some sub-languages. Our is Ahirani. And you will be surprised that though it has limited literature, it is still taught in schools. Now a days it has thriving music industry also. This holds true to every part and state of India.
I wish one day you could visit India and i or someone like me could show you around.. not just tourist places but real flavour of India which is diversity.
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Ata hoon World Cup par
@@ThePakistanExperience wow 😳
Jinnah himself was Gujarati.. He saying urdu as national language and that too in english is just icing on cake and disaster in making.. no prize in guessing the state pakistan is in today
Urdu was disguised Islamic project of Jinnah even Kashmiri discarded their own language & script due to the opium of religion and made Urdu their official language. Only Bengalis people irrespective of their faith resisted Urdu for their language & Script which resulted in the creation of Bangladesh.
Are you From Kashmir ?
Urdu presence in Jammu and Kashmir is older than Pakistan. It was implemented by the Dogras administration as a medium of communication and ruling. Some Dogra kings were known to be found of Persian or/and Urdu languages.
At these times, even if Urdu indeed evolved in what is perceived today as mostly an "Islamic" environment, it knowledge was a requirement for working in administration, taking part in cultural events and intellectual debates, etc. Urdu was masterised for generations by Pandits, Kayasthas, and many other Hindu or Sikh social groups involved in administration or intellectual professions.
After the partition and integration of Jammu and Kashmir state into India (both Jammu and the true Kashmir are in India), the government didn't make further move in language usages, and Urdu had been the official language of JK administration till today.
@@drodro7672 it was Persian or Farsi not Urdu. Don't mix up
@@kuku6116 I don't mix them, I think I don't said it clearly. Some Dogra kings where found of both Urdu and Farsi, some more with Urdu (as Persian declined in the North Indian cultural and intellectual standards).
P.S : I edited my first comment for not misleading readers.
@@kuku6116 Even in far Ladakh and Baltistan, a local Urdu-educated administration was present when both Indians and Pakistanis came next to Partition and subsequent war.
If you visit Kargil, you can go to a museum in the Old Town, housed in an ancient sarai, dedicated to the city past as a trading post in the Silk Road. There, you can discover that Urdu have been known and used by merchant communities for business purpose between India and Turkestan (the current Chinese Xinjiang/Uygur dominated region). Among merchant communities of Leh too, Urdu was well known for the same purpose. Urdu in both places also occupied a culture language position among some sections of society.
This Urdu is basically Arabic language equivalent for Indian subcontinent. It is called "language jihad". Arabic language was superimposed over entire middle East and North Africa by destroying their local languages, eg. Hebrew in Egypt. Urdu is used to destroy the native traditions and language to prove Islamic supremacy and hinduphobia.
Sadly, over the long-run, Indian subcontinent muslims still have to go through identity crisis and ashamed of their own hindu ancestors and are lost in the world leading to frustrations, terrorism and social confusion.
Sorry, but sach kadwa hai. 💔
Actually it is Ordu , it is a Language meant to link all muslims in South Asia . it is our Joint Legacy , this is why Some H hate us as our language is great
It is you who are suffering from identity crisis as you have no language you speak Ordu call it hindi and kits your frustration who lead you to this channel
You want to steal our language & culture
excellent question and very valid observations. Brilliant comment about being able to read sub titles for Kana Yaari (a great song in different Baloch dialects). I hope this video starts a debate and we recognise that the Pakistan identity is a mix of many cultures, its history does not start with the invasion of Mohammed Bin Qasim but goes thousands of years before that. Thank you for this episode of The Pakistan Experience.
Absolutely. Thank you!
That's the positivity we need brother, thank you 🙏.
I understand that Jinnah himself wasn't fluent in Urdu. It is said that he announced to the Bengalis in East Pakistan that Urdu would be the official language even in East Pakistan. What is remarkable is that he made that statement not in Urdu or Bengali but in English.
Punjabi language sacrificed the Most.But Songs Made Punjabi More attractive now
Apna hee decision tha Punjabis ka to relegate Punjabi in favour of Urdu
I don't remember the name but some Indian freedom fighter once stated that ...
A real indian would never associate Urdu with Persian and Hindi with Sanskrit ...
These are both Indian languages...
We fail to understand that there is alot more than just religion than connects people ...
I read it in a book, can't remember the name, that urdu/hindi is the same language called hindustani. When britishes played divide and rule after war of independence, then this mixing persian/sanskrit difference was created by muslims/hindus
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@@akritipant6217 ncret books r not available in Pakistan😅 so it must be some other book
@@Outofthisworld794 I read it in a ncert book ...apna bta rhi Mai 😂😂🌸
Clear, concise & very interesting narration. It gives me a new perspective to look at our Indian languages & thought processes as well. In the south we fight against the imposition of Hindi as the lingua franca for pretty much the same reasons. Our ancestors never needed one lingua franca to trade, travel or live before. Why do we need one now? European countries who tried it haven't completely succeeded either. Smaller regional languages persist like Breton, Provencal, Basque, Welsh, Cornish, Scottish Gaelic etc. & some are even being revived in parts of France & England. So even the colonizers haven't succeeded fully in establishing their colonial idea of standardization with one lingua franca. Humans don't like uniformity. Everyone strives to be unique. Even if we all talk in one language today, in about 500 years, that will evolve to 10 different languages & 50 dialects.
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You can get around pretty well in Pakistan with urdu, everyone understands it at the very least.
I think we should create a new language from different languages spoken in every part of the country if we are so averse of Urdu as a national language. Other choice is English which is understood by even fewer. I grew up in different part of Punjab, Sind and visited Blochistan and NWFP/Pukhtunkhwa. Everywhere we communicated in Urdu and almost everywhere the local people understood Urdu.
Bruh the whole video is about recognizing regional languages not making up a new national language. Urdu can stay but accept and make it mandatory in school to learn regional language as well.
Such an eloquent narration. Well done brother!
Thank you!
As an Indian Sindhi, I have always been insecure of my language as its 'birthplace' is now part of Pakistan. Sad to learn that the language isn't even thriving in the place of its birth.
Why insecure ? Sindhi is officially recognised language in India
@@bhadwamodi8294 Said by an Indian who has never visited Sindh.
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You are a brilliant guy, loving your work lately
Kudos to you
Keep touching new heights 🎉
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Urdu is very beautiful language. It is not just a language it is an emotion of love and compassion. Urdu is a combination of great historical languages like Persian, Arabic, Turkish, Sanskrit, Awadhi and Hindustani. Urdu has contributed great literature in South Asia with wonderful poems and odes. It not just language of Pakistan but it is language of every living soul. Lots of love from India 🇮🇳
True. Urdu is beautiful.
@@ThePakistanExperience fake English accent 😅😂
Ghanta. Benstoke.
Pata nahi kaun hutiye hai yeh love from India waale. Shayad yeh Pakistani ispr waale bots hai
The people who are replying on my comments represents Hindi speaking community.
Thankyou for highlighting the importance of diverse languages in Pakistan including our Sindhi. It has 52 alphabets. How it's vastness can be decreased forcefully or by imposition of Urdu which was non existent as anyone's mother tongue in newly formed Pakistan.
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Can pak Sindhis and punjabis read and write in sindhi and punjabi?
@@atishamathur9014 I don't know it's answer to your question or not but to my knowledge, In Sindh it's a rich culture of reading and writing in Sindhi, diminished when religious extremism is propagated in rural areas of Sindh but it did not has that toxic impact as in Punjab. Sindhi Sufism, nationalism, Singing, Literature, even revolutionary poetry was at its peak in 60s,80s and 80s in times of GM Syed, Sheikh Ayaz, Rasool Bux Paleejo, Siraaj, Ali Mohamed Rashidi, Inaam Sheikh, Khaki joyo, Sobho Gianchandani, Noorulhuda Shah, Amar Jalil, Dr. Nabi Bux Baloch, Jaam Saaqi, Naseer memon and many many others. There were and are Sindhi newspapers, magazines when there was no in Punjabi in that times. Very later Punjab also has produced and there is rich Literature in Punjab as well but it's not as boomed and given importance by the people as in Sindh.
Unlike people in India, there's no minority community in Pakistan who have protested against Urdu imposition
They protested so much they literally created another country
Shehzad , your efforts and thoughts are clearly resonating with people within and outside the borders . I wish there were more shehzads in Pakistan . From Indian
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I was introduced to Syed Muzammil through this podcast and now I can’t stop watching his videos! A gem indeed
U ppl have Sindhi panjabi pashto etc such beautiful languages with great literature...it's fool to impose another inferior language... Language connect ppl with land ..forms connection n emotion
It's not imposed our forefather actually speak both languages.
Who don't like Urdu will call it imposed
@@MariaKhan-ys9pm What is your ethnicity/caste/clan/tribe/nation? How do you call yourself Khan(It's not even a tribe)?
@@MariaKhan-ys9pm with due respect Maria we all had same forefathers n they never spoke Urdu..it was always local languages..we all were just hindus/Sikh/Jain's/baudh thn...many things like new religion/language were inforced by invaders by sword...these illusions of forefathers speaking Urdu or having Arabic decend is false..I believe one must accept present but always remember past too..your/our local languages Punjabi/Sindhi/pashto etc predates evn tht newly accepted religion.. such a rich literature in them..
@@ps-fv5qr By your logic we should also embrace that TRUE CULTURE of our forefathers which was all related to Hinduism, Sikh and others? Why not go all out when you are clearly stating Islam as enforced? Why not convert again and join your true roots? Dude either stop this Hypocrisy s*it of TRUE CULTURE or accept the new identity as you were born in that new atmosphere and COUNTRY. Preservation of languages is another thing that must be practiced but culture and religion are totally different. I think you must understand now.
@@huzifavesos it was enforced..was there any doubt? your own forefathers were humiliated womans r*ped/torchured/killed/ ancient temples destroyed..our Sikh gurus chose to die thn convert... Entire civilizations were barbaricaly converted...read real history not what madarasas are teaching you you ..🇵🇰 have real history starting from harranpan roots..now you are taught it's Arabic root that's what leading to denial of identities..your languages..your nation is failing bcs fake roots/history/laungages are being imposed n it's not matching... 🇵🇰 Country with 98% islamic converts but still nowhere what Islam is..islam is religion but it's designed for arab region..arab climate ..that's why it's successful there..no inferior complex like 🇵🇰
And NO RELIGION AND LANGUAGES ARE INTERVINED MORE THAN YOU KNOW.. RELIGION IS INTERWINED IN EVERY SINGLE ASPECT OF INDIAN SUBCONTINENT...IF YOU SHUT YOUR EYES THAT DOESN'T CHANGE REALITY.
Hello Shehzad, great video. Mother tongue should always pride of anyone. There is saying in Marathi, Those who loves their Mother tongue can love any other language in the world also. Hatred is very alien emotion.
One another thing also, are you following Abrar bhai's India journey? (Wildlens by Abrar). I am waiting for him to come your podcast. He has became celebrity in India.
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But, now almost all Pakistanis 99% above understand and speak Urdu to at least some extent. But, they don't speak Urdu as such but rather Urdish (Urdu + English) or rather Hinglish (Hindi+English). I support their idea of making Urdu as National language because only this language is the key to national harmony and strengthening ties with India.
I live in northern India.
My office language:English
My Daily life language: Hindustani (nobody here realises that they speak a mix of Hindi and Urdu😂)
My Home Language: Maithili
And i understand Punjabi pretty much ❤.
It's such a wonderful experience to know multiple languages (ofcourse u can't be perfect in all).
So on average an Indian knows/understands 3 languages. So i would recommend our brothers across borders to learn whatever language u come across ❤
My brother in Bharat, Mithila in Bihar is East India. There are 4 directions.
@@SaddamAzadyou worry about your country need not worry about cultural as well as internal affairs of India
Though Ambedkar and Co were very wise not to include Hindi as National lang in the constitution, I don't think Hindi wasn't imposed on Indian states. When india became independent, there were only national parties ruling all the states and they did not hesitate to ask everyone to speak in hindi. Hindi was made compulsory second language in schools until protests(infact violent protests) erupted in tamil nadu and other southern states. However, The whole north india almost lost their respective native languages but it didn't work in south because the languages there were once empire languages in those regions, thus the languages got too rooted in those respective societies to succumb to hindi imposition. In addition to that, anglophilia(only for language) emerged in southern coastlines during british rule. And there is no reason to sideline English for hindi due to lucrative opportunites abroad. Later, Regional parties became stronger by gradually sidelining national parties in respecitve states. Bollywood today doesn't have a market in south because Telugu, Tamil, Kannada, Malayalam has stronger Pop movie cultures in their own languages that there is no space for hindi movies to get in. However, We've all already swept by english and sooner or later all our languages die eventually.
In your last sentence you have negated your own thesis. In every country a lingua franca is needed because regional languages can only help regionally. No point in detesting a common language.
@@SayVeritatis Iam not making a statement in the first place. Iam just explaining why hindi couldn't make it in the south as English had already became very established there atleast among the elites and middle class. Coming to lingua france part, the parties that come to contact( whether it is traders, or labourers from different languages) will eventually learn languages that their bosses speak whether it's hindi or telugu or tamil.
In a vast country like india, lingua franco concept can't sustain. The current official language concept is running well.
Urdu gives subcontinent converts supposedly identity different from Hindus ..Urdu in Persian script was thought to be a niche which belonged to subcontinent converts only ..forget pakistan Indian Kashmir too have Urdu as state language where it is hardly spoken by 3%
14:33 People of indus valley traded with ancient egyptians and greeks and romans
Fact bro: Javed Akhtar talks that Urdu has had a tradition in Punjab. Though strangely, it isn't Punjab's mother tongue
Sbse zada qusoor bhi Punjabi community kay un logon ka hai jinhon ny apni zuban chorr di urdu klye.
While on the subject of Urdu there seems to be another "Arabish" thing thats quite popular with some Pakistanis - Al Bakistan. Can you do an episode on it, please?