Why this Kpop idol is banned from making any music the next 6 years | Dark Side of Kpop
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- Опубликовано: 19 окт 2024
- We explore the infuriating story of Victor the Drum Destroyer (aka Victor Han, 드럼좌) who was kicked out of About U and now barred from making music, TV appearances, RUclips & Instagram.
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#freevictor
Thank you so much for making this video about my son.
My son wanted to have the same eye color as mine, and a Korean court banned him from broadcast,
saying it was 'disgusting' because he wore a typical Brazilian colored lenses.
When I went to Korea to mediate this, the president of Victor's agency said,
'It's disgusting' when he saw the color of my eyes.
Yes in front of me!
Victor is going through a very tough time with all of his direct speech actions being restricted.
If you have any questions, feel free to ask me. Thank you.
will definitely win 🔥🔥🔥 #freevictor
We are waiting for him ♥️🇧🇷 #freevictor
Disgusting is that agency president! Such a horrible and unhappy "person"!
#freevictor
Sir, maybe u should asking jay park for some advice. His past agency when he debut as an idol kick him out and its like public secret tat they still try to hold him back to be success, banned him from appear on tv, and everything BUT hey u see, jay park show too all peoples tat he can be success and still continue too make his self BIG BOSS but still humble and helping others too.
This actually feels like a human rights violation. It is evil to do this to a young person.
They are holding too much power against him. Just free the man.
They dont care about him, they just care about their money 😤
Stealing years of his life. Not to mention he's depressed too.
i agree, I feel so bad for these artists
Literally, because he can’t really make a living doing something that he actually loves now. 😭😭
I went through a lawsuit in Korea too regarding entertainment and it was the hardest time of my life… thank god things worked out for me in the end so I can’t even imagine what Victor is feeling after the verdict. I learned that with lawsuits you either become the predator or become the prey no matter how right or wrong you are if that makes sense…
That’s disgusting, thankfully you survived this and have moved on to better things. I sincerely hope Victor can also do the same. No one deserves this, it’s torture and manipulative. I feel bad for the remaining members
I’m so happy things worked out for you! Hoping and praying they work out for Victor as well! I’m terrified for his mental well-being. 🥺🙏 #freevictor 🥁
You really have insight into this that we don't. Can an agency really bind you if that have fired you? It would seem they have breached the contract. How does breaking a drum stick allow them to do such a thing? If you wouldn't mind I'd like your thoughts on these two issues. Is the law that much different than in the States? Thanks so much. BTW I love your channel and have seen you interviewed by many others on RUclips. You're amazing.
@@KpopGrandma unfortunately their laws are extremely different. I would also love to hear more from her and get more insights.
You are a very strong person.I hope that Victor can get through this difficult time.
he should do music in japan. they will love him there with his vampire visual kei concept. he will def be a rising star there.
He reminds me of a little bit of Yoshiki and Kamijo.
Yes he would fit in perfectly!
Absolutely
I agree. He should leave korea now. Korea is the worst country when it comes to this kind of rules. Itd annoying. Ialways roll my eyes to everypeople i hear when they really want to go on korea or daydreaming being a real freggin korean artist . This dark and toxic culture is been exposed to me for about a year now and they don't believe me for telling them that the korea is the most toxic and one of the most racist country . They call me basher. Im just telling the truth. Also, the other fandoms itself even not from korea is being infected by this toxic nature. Its disgusting.
My thoughts exactly. He’s got everything the vk crowd loves in an artist. He could make a killing in that scene if he wanted to.
Viktor should sue the company for hurting his mental health and his ability to earn money in his main line of work. He SHOULD find a way to sue them.
Asia doesn't care about mental health, its taboo and stigmatized
@@soxpuff wtf, Asia is sick.
@@soxpuff more like east asia (japan, korea, maybe china)
@@ssrb0101 im sure korea has it worse
mental health? in asia? specially in korea? never heard of her
Glad you are going to talk about this. Victor doesn't deserve this. Such a waste of an amazing talent. I'm so mad.
Fun fact...
The Black Label folks are friends with him.
It's hush hush but you can see him in some stories of some inside folks in YG Entertainment on their Private Stories eating and having lunch with him.
He's been with a few insiders in these places...
"Nice weather market" "Sinsa Chicken Club" "Small dish big show" "Nemone bar"
Point being...
Corona X dropped the ball on this one and Those who have Eyes for talent and ACTUALLY knows how to grow them, KNOWS what they have to do.
@@abramrexjoaquin7513 that's good. Maybe they can buy out his contract or make some kind of settlement on his behalf. It will totally be worth their while.
It's not a waste. They can't take his talents and that contract has to expire. He is very young with a long life ahead he can resume his career and thanks to that agency he will have a lot more fans than now.
we all are I actually followed Viktor RUclips Channel and now its gone forever because of the stupid fucking labels that trying to silenced him down.
@@melanyblake1470 yes
This is just terrible, they're sucking the life out of him, taking his life and passion away from him, all the years he spent in training gone to waste. I hope he finds a way to get out of this cruel lawsuit
Its understandarable, coz he is harmfullto himself anf might be harmfull to others. Hes a bad crazy influence untill he cleans himself up.
Yupp truly it's very heart breaking. It's like saying what you love is no more for you! Ahh man it's painful.
@@mlungan7717 nah
@@mlungan7717 so according to you, it’s ok for them to harass him instead of finding him help for his mental health issues?? Wow!
@@mlungan7717 you're the crazy one
So… you’re telling me that they are running this man’s life because he broke a stick?! This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard! What the hell is this? This is absolutely inhuman! From a legal standpoint, this doesn't even make any sense! Aren't these idols protected at all?!
Seriously! Wtf?!
Noooo because he is not 100% Korean this is true just see how Liza suffered with them before
That's why never sign your rights to anyone no matter how good they look. They can take away everything in seconds. Especially in Korea.
you are everywhere man
how are u also here?
Tnx for the advice, Mr. Mak.
RUclips algo really set us up huh
True.
I am seriously curious how stupid a company has to be to think abusing their power towards an artist will better their reputation. Small companies are on thin ice as it is, every move has to be a good one or they will drown in the industry, so it just nuts that, knowing people know this, they would toss money into keeping this issue alive (legal fees, likely housing him per a standard company contract if they aren't more shady, never making that training money back, etc).
personally i think that is their twisted thoughts. gaining media attention from this is boosting their company, so they probably haven't given a second thought on what the consequences would be just to keep this alive. the more media attention equals more views which then turns into negative popularity. i personally think they just want to stay reverent just like Oli London if you think about it and how he is staying reverent through negative media attention. which is sooo stupid and wrong, it really frustrates me...
@@azaleaaster8719 im sorry, ill delete the comment.. i didn't intend to hurt people i was just mad at what the company did and said.. i know i shouldn't have gone so far... my bad :( sorry
@@sunootaerae No worries. I know you didn't have bad intentions (it didn't seem like you had bad intentions). Thanks.
@@stan_theboyz561 Yea, but if I was wanting to join a company to become a singer or whatever, I would definitely avoid their company bc of the shitty way they did this kid!
This way of thinking is what will bring them down. It's this archaic nonsense that the bigwigs know what they are doing and everyone under them, according to hierarchy has to bow down to the ones above them, no questions asked. This is still a very big problem in Korea. The reason Big Hit has the biggest group in the world is that PD Bang would never act like this. I can't speak for what goes behind closed doors but you don't get the most successful Kpop group in the world by treating their members like this. They are heard, and their mental health is prioritized (or at least that's their brand - sorry to sound cynical but you just don't know what goes on behind closed doors as they are very careful about what they want you to see and what they don't). They are given creative freedom (to an extent but more so than other companies). You have this incredibly charismatic, talented, confident performer. Personally, I am not into Kpop but I am intrigued by this guy because of how comfortable he is performing and gives so much effortlessly. To silence him in his prime makes absolutely no sense. I don't know how the legal system works in Korea so I don't really understand how they can enforce this kind of contract. Surely there is always an out clause? Is it that he has to pay a lot of money to buy his freedom? If that is the case, is a fund set up and are people contributing? What is the solution here?
#freevictor That company is so horrible. I hope he stays strong, I'm afraid for his mental health.
Me too. I'm worried, even! He's such an amazing musician and to see that talent and HIM as a whole go to waste? Man, that ticks me off.
They had there right to stop which he signed for
Actually Korean don't have the right to discriminate him about the eye color, when their own idols always wear lenses to have that kind of look beautiful eye's
This is disgusting
I just so tired with that kind of racism 🤮
Agreed
Agreed. It’s just like how they blur tattoos in the media, but when painted on they keep them clear for everyone to see 🙄
@@Nijilove78 that's why. They should treat people/artist equally. My bestie is a fan of Lisa. She always complains to me about how the agency mistreat Lisa. At some point I feel annoyed but then when I check the news and everything, it's true. And knowing this drummer got banned just because of breaking the stick, wow okay
@@Nijilove78 what makes it funny is whenever they have a theme like having tattoo they make it from a make up/henna netizenz will compliment as cool and hot but when someone who have real tattoos they force the guy to wear long sleeves and Turtleneck to cover it up. what the heck right.
I don't think it's racism, I think their just being childish because they didn't get their way with him and they were getting bad reputation. Which now is backfiring bat them
U.S. artists were setting their guitars on FIRE in the 60’s, and these guys lose their minds over a broken drumstick 🥴
This whole ordeal is ridiculous and I hope Victor gets the freedom he deserves. Força Victor ♥️🇧🇷
These CEOs probably had the same mindset as those who banned Yang Joon Il, the guy who everyone was like 'G-Dragon of the 90's'. Man sounds like this fella is going through the same BS.
Korea had bad relationship with rock, as far as I recall, because of an incident that happened on TV with a band (involving nudity) and I guess the "violence" of him breaking his drumstick seemed to remind them too much of the attitude rock bands had at that time.
I was gonna say, as a drummer myself, and fan of classic rock (this video was on my suggested) the dude resembles a young Jimmy Page but has the passion of John Bonham. Stick it to the man Victor, the gods of rock are smiling over you 🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽🤟🏽
@@bluchismoon I heard about that, but that was a one time thing that happened 17 years ago!!
Victor’s own dad commented on this video and said that the president of Victor’s agency said that his blue eyes were “disgusting”. I honestly think that they just don’t like foreigners and were looking for a reason to fire him 😒
@@pollyesterpocket They fired him, but didn't even terminate the contract on purpose. Power corruption much
Is there anything we can do to help? This isn’t fair. The fact that they are not letting him do what he wants outside of the company is disgusting. He’s talented and such a visual!
I guess we could name him, use pictures, talk about him. At least it would make him know he is known
#freevictor
@@Chirpieshome #freevictor!!!!
@@youshouldhaveknown5444 let's do this!
Strength in numbers !! #freevictor
this case needs more attention, this is awful they literally took everything from him, he should make a lawsuit against them asking for compensation for his time and money lost, also for emotional and mental damage
I agree
Yea i agree...
He might not win because what the company is doing is legal
All idols debut in debt with their companies. Getting compensation is almost impossible.
the way they outted him for self harm and tried to use it against him and basically forcing him to admit he does it publicly to prove his innocence is so disgusting.
I actually had the opportunity to meet Victor in person back in 2019 before he made his debut with About U. They honestly lost a major asset because he was the only one in the group who spoke English and other languages that every idol should know in order to gain popularity like Portuguese, Spanish, and Japanese. I wish nothing but the best for him and I hope that he continues to do what he loves despite being banned for the next few years. This too will pass ❤️✨🙏🏾
He is young he can work during this time and come back and doing his music in the non kpop side
@@Maysoon3121 for 6 years tho
Good on you and right on!
@@i_CTRL1003 As someone else stated he can work under masked persona like many DJs do but even if that's not possible then yeahh 4 more yrs to go.. If he luck on his side then he will make his name at 30..He is definitely losing his prime yrs for no reason but what else can anyone do when there is no other option
@@Phoenix.219 oh ok thx
Wow, I'm really stunned right now. How can this be legal?? You own someone's life, I mean come on they kicked him out of the band. So now they can control and destroy his life for the next 6 years for retaliation. This definitely needs public attention, this dude needs an expert attorney in this matter. They chose to fire him, so his contract should be void. He should put a 100 million dollar lawsuit against the company/companies for destroying his musical career. Give this talented artist the freedom he deserves.
In a way, this is rather similar to what happened to 2NE1. The company head abruptly disbanded the group without prior notice and reason, and that was after unfairly terminating another member's contract. Two members were left in the company by that point. One refused to make music without her group and took on an administrative role instead, and the other was trying to create solo music but was always denied the chance to comeback. I'm glad all of the members are out, YG is a terrible company and the members seem so much happier away from YG. I feel terrible for Victor, I have a feeling I would have really liked his enthusiasm. I hope he wins his case against his corrupt company, before his initial contract time runs its course. #freevictorhan
#freevictor #victor_thedrummer
I was wonderin about that!! 😭 he was fired! Shouldn't THAT rendered the contract VOID ??!!!! mind-fuckin-boggling🥴
The way the law currently works, this is legal for them to do. It's super shitty and the law should change, but technically right now Victor's label is not breaking the law in anyway... Which is a big reason why this story needs exposure, this is something that should change. The label has the right to kick him out of the group. But what SHOULD have happened after is either A) they have the option to put him in another group or have him be a solo artist still under them. Or B) they immediately terminate the contract so that he would be free to go independent or sign with another company. The fact that they can have him still be on contract but not put him in any groups or not use him at all effectively puts him in "jail", and they KNOW that's what they're doing. At the VERY LEAST, there should be a law that if a company has you on contract but chooses not to use you, the contract should automatically terminate after 1 year. That way it's fair to the label in that they can figure out what to do with an artist (if it was a true issue of just the label wanting time to decide), but if they decide to do nothing or just take too long, then artist has an out and can go live their life and still have a career after and not lose too too much time. But the way right now they can basically hold Victor hostage for the next SIX YEARS is absolutely insane.
@@StarlightStella613 yes some new yg fans should know that
He should pull a “artist formally known as prince” and create a RUclips account with a persona that is masked. Many DJ’s are popular while staying anonymous, and he can create his persona as a company instead of as his legal name. He is still allowed to create independent labels and trade mark a persona under a company LLC, and this may allow him to work under that without it infringing on the contract he’s bound to claiming visual/performance rights of his current artist persona.
That sounds interesting!
This!
So basically like that girl group k-pop called pink fantasy?
He might do that after leaving Korea bcz Korea sucks in these terms.. There will look for some other loopholes to bab him.. I have seen many stories of Korean idols careers getting destroyed for no reason.. The companies there hold power.. That country works differently than other countries
Yesss
The company is taking away Victor's youth and income. By the time he's out of the hostile contact, he will be 31 years old (young yes to many but dang). This is horrifying to be honest. I wish we can do more.
His youth won't go away when he hits 30.Yes in kpop stands it's old but in reality it is still quite young it's not like he'll be 70 in 6 years.
That is insane that they can control this much about his life. Wtf? How is this ethical, contract or not? I hope Victor fights this and wins.
Victor should leave that company and sign with PNATION
He should go to PNATION because PNATION care about their artists
How is there not a petition?
@@cadavher I don't fucking know
@@teresadownes2422 he can't leave that company. Can you read? They own him until his contract is up?
The same company also sued ANOTHER one of their idols for "stealing a leather jacket". Such a stupid reason. They need to be stopped at this point. It's just exploitation.
And who knows what sort of disgusting crap goes on behind closed doors...who knows what kind of crap these K-Pop kids truly go through. When I first saw k-pop years ago I thought it appeared rather exploitative so if it turns out ugly and vile I wouldn't be amazed.
Are you referring to Minty?
Direct fan support of the artists would eliminate the middle men.
How can they not want to work with him, actually fire him, yet not let him work? It's not even logical. In the US, even with a non-compete agreement, the terms are very limited; basically you cannot prevent someone from earning an income in their profession, which is what this company is doing. Thanks for bringing this issue forward. Hopefully Victor will be able to win in the long-run.
If I've learned one thing about Korean culture it's that they really hate losing face or being embarrassed publicly. Victor essentially did that twice, once when he broke his stick and the second time with the video telling how he was kicked out. It's not logical but it's more revenge and making him an example for the other idols at his company. No one there would dare defy them if they are sidelined the majority of their contract. It's sad. I hope he can get out and Corona has to pay him a ton of money in damages.
@@MissRyukkie Hi Danielle! Yes of course I know exactly what you mean, I don't even understand why they were upset about the drumstick break in the first place. Being a small company, I'm sure they are trying to hold onto everything they can. My point is that it's just not logical. Revenge isn't logic. I'd also like to know if his contract is even legal. Generally in contract law, there has to be benefits for both sides. If they are preventing him from upholding his part of the contract they would be in breach. They essentially fired him, I just don't understand how they have any authority or right to bind him. Any reasonable person would believe that if you were kicked out of your place of employment, you are no longer bound to them. I hope Victor's name is true and that he can win against this horrible company.
@@KpopGrandma Victor said in some brazilian interviews and videos in portuguese on his channel that the drumstick broke while he was playing, since he couldn't use it anymore, he just broke the rest at the end. He said that the drumstick was just something they used to kick him out, since he already knew they never liked him. He never received support from the company, never had any leassons to better his skills. He joined Corona X already knowing how to play the drums and trained by himself even after he joined the company. He received different treatment than the other guys in the band too. Corona X isn't a well known company, but we can definitly say it is one of the worst. I can bet there's some xenophobia in this story too.
@@ariadnaalmeida thanks so much for the additional info. What a lousy company!
Ill-place pride and heavy prejudice.
As an artist myself, this is dicked. To have your passion stripped from you because of some corporation that got their damn panties in a wad. It's all a matter of pride and it's ridiculous. This is such a big mess smh. I am sending positive thoughts and vibes Victor's way! Stay strong and keep being amazing!
We want their names. I don’t want just a company, who in the company is tormenting this poor man. Public shaming might be the only option, they should go down in history as the worst.
2:01 did 148 of you really not catch that? Or is it not that one?
@@LavaLampLady maybe you didn’t understand the comment. The name of the people who run the company not the name of the company. Understand the comment before you make a rude reply.
@@LavaLampLady “I don’t want just a company, who in the company is tormenting this poor man” did that mean nothing to you, orrrrr?
@@sashajohnson8042
How was that rude.
@@nb1571
True lol
Imagine already having depression and anxiety, and then a whole company comes for your neck like this. I can't imagine what he's going through
He was trained to be an entertainer for 8 years, and then banned from making any kind of entertainment? Now that's just terrible. I mean, it's his life. Banning him from doing those things almost feels like banning him from life. I'm worry about him now, hope he's doing fine and will come back stronger.
Hopefully he's just recording a bunch of music in secret and waiting until the six years are up to release it all at once.
Most unique kpop artist I've seen lately. Most look manufactured but he seems to have an image built around who he really is.
As someone else stated in the comments, Kpop is starting to feel like modern day slavery
I Used to be a kpop fan blinded by the amazing visuals, great choreo and such but then i instantly snapped out of it and opened my eyes to how this people were being overworked and exploited by their companies. It was no longer fun to watch, and i felt guilty as a fan for contributing to this horrid slavery because at the end of the day everything they do is LITERALLY because of the fans, fans give them money so they'll milk that as much as possible. I remember hearing about Victor, i was wondering why i suddenly stopped seeing videos from his channel. Surely us people around the world will be able to band together and give that company a kick in the ass somehow. This is literally a violation of human rights.
Please note that RUclips and other Internet platforms have buckled under the unfair and inhumane decision of the Korean court. Such disgusting duplicity! The Convention on Human Rights means nothing to them...
Honestly this behavior by companies was way way worse back in the day, and nowadays is mostly done by smaller poor companies. But in general it's not good for these people to be completely controlled that way.
Is the opposite thb, companies used to 4bu53 their idols in every way possible
Legit, I was a hardcore fan for a long time. But eventually I keep hearing about issues, bands disbanding, getting into trouble for just a simple haircut & such. It honestly made me sick & I quit watching. I still love the music & songs & the dance the idols put out but I can't support any of the company man
We as fans can change this! I can't say everything that is on my mind cause I will probably be banned BUT.. spam those companies with Emails, send letters to CEO'S heck write to the United Nations, anything. Keep it peacefull and respectfully yet think out of the box not just for Victor but for all trainee's and idols to be.
There are millions of fans all over the Globe, when we unite, we can do anything!
As a brazilian, we are all on his side, always were. Victor were very open in his brazilian interviews about his company never liking him, not supporting him and his depression too. We felt like we were in a rollercoaster, it seemed that everything would be okay and he was doing just fine. Then suddenly he was banned from tv and social media. It was wild
That is why how record companies are so scary. Anywhere u go. Company wants obedience.
I wonder why they took him in the first place, if they didn’t like him as who he is?
@@everynamesliterallybeentaken just to cash on him. All entertainment companies often do it. They put up with artists with they don’t like or the artists are simply unprofessional but people like their work because people don’t know behind the scenes. So either ways the decision comes to the money and fame.
@@Samperor thats why never try to be company artist
maybe he can try his luck in china. Korean companies have absolutely no power there, and i think the chinese public would absolutely love him. many non-chinese artists have made their names there in recent years, the conditions are much better than in korea because the artists are much more independent.
Not only is this fucking nuts, it's violation of so many civil rights. Note to self: Never sign music contracts in Korea. To try to destroy this man's entire life???? This is disgusting and disgraceful.
some similar stuff happened to an artist named RUANN, its crazy how they have so much control over the artists
this situation could easily be resolved in a friendly way, why did they have to do something so ridiculously harsh? sometimes, ""justice"" is really scary and unfair
No, this isn't justice at all.
It’s hard to understand how the public accepts what happens in the K-pop industry and why the Korean justice does not protect those kids from that kind of contract. In these very moment someone is earning a lot of money from the suffering of these children.
How many young people have died or had their lives devastated by this type of company? This is really sad and unacceptable.
Btw, congrats for you video. I think this is one of the best content about Victor’s case. Thanx for sharing with us.
I hope this news is widely known.🙏🙏🙏 #freevictor
Justice always wins.👍👍👍#FreeVictor
@@maxmax4646 It's already 2 years .... :(
Eae Tio Baccic!👋😁
bota a boca no trombone bah!!! já que calaram ele. Vamos usar a nossa voz em sua defesa.
OMG poor victor, I remember when you guys covered the original story of him being kicked out of his group and immediately went to subscribe to his youtube. This is so disgusting but not surprising the big companies maybe shady but because of notoriety can’t do some of the more incendiary stuff smaller companies do to their artists. This idea that they kicked him out but refused to let him go only to use this kind of tactic is so malicious. I truly hope he is able to win his cases and make a hasty return to entertainment no one but especially someone this passionate about their art deserves this kind of thing.
#freevictor
#freevictor
I can't believe the fact that he was a trainee at the company for 8 years and they just sent him away in 1 month after his debut 😖
Oh man... as an artist myself if someone had told me that i was forbidden of singing for 6 years I would die, no joke. Is there anything we could do... like a petition or something??
This is why reading the contract is critical for any artist.
he was clearly struggling. instead of getting him the help he obviously needed, they just decided to sue him for speaking up for himself about his experiences? poor guy. i hope he gets through this
These crazy slave contracts are why I took a step back from K-pop. While I still listen to the music, I can't support companies who treat their idols like this. Victor seems like a genuinely nice person from the videos of his I watched and I hope he stays strong through this difficult time
Right, people just don't know that idols are treated like slaves by their agencies.
right? agencies are just a fancier way of people taking away the rights of others
@@MissN1234
Oh don't worry we know
He wanted to be an idol and knew the consequences, how dumb are you all
Sorry from..which agency he has
No idea why this was recommended to me since I don’t like Kpop, but this is outrageous. I studied vocal music for seven years so as a fellow musician my heart aches for him. Will defo be spreading the word, I hope he is safe and can find some happiness in this dark time 🤍
I'm pretty sure Korean agency must have felt threatened by his looks
They've absolutely stripped his rights away and it truly is a lose-lose situation for both the artist and label. His talent shouldn't go to waste like this!
I broke my drumsticks lots of time during my teen years when i was in a band, but accidentally. Korean medias & entertainment company are just too ridiculously weird to ever sue a person based on this. Just weird! Poor him. Hope he could be happier soon.
Right?! If I got sued every time I broke a drumstick as a teenager I'd still be living at home with my parents and I'm 54! LOL
The older Korean generation is still conservative while the younger generation still have to be in their rules unfortunately.
what was even the big deal about him breaking a drumstick? sticks are cheap. it's theatrical. it's not like he destroyed an expensive guitar or something.
The major question is “are you sure that’s the reason or there’s something else they’re not telling people?
@@wangscuteyeekies3057 Good question 👍🏻
These cases are just petty! They sack him, get jealous, and then literally take away the things he loves when he just admitted to struggling with mental health. I really hope the next thing we hear about Victor is good news, because I am really worried.
I'm so pissed about this industry that I'm starting to hate k-pop because of this kind of power abuse.
I'm so sorry for Victor, I hope that he can take his life back.
From time to time, I keep making comments for him to see that we still support him.
Victor should just try to get in a band in Japan. He’ll probably be more loved there than in South Korea.
Or China, Chinese pop is booming
I agree. Rock and metal music are two genres that are very popular in Japan and a lot of people enjoy it. I've always noticed when it comes to Korea, pop and hip hop are more popular. He would definitely fit in, in Japan. Or the US even!
He would be set for life if he makes it there.
IKR? Feels like Japan's the only place atm where rock is alive (oh wait I listened to some Hungarian rock, that was badass af. And the russian electro-pop is cool too)
@@LC-in2ft IKR? Wonder why rock isn't that popular in SK when there are K-rock bands like FTisland, Busters, Gukkastein etc. Feels like rock is underground there
This is really fuc*ed up. Imagine doing this to someone who openly spoke about his anxiety and depression! I imagine he's having a pretty hard time.
Hope the agency think through that because they can seriously ruin his career and life!
Todo meu apoio, Victor!
This is such a shocking story, it sounds like an extreme case of indentured servitude. I was reminded of an American R&B artist who sued her record label over a number of issues but ended up with the U.S. Congress passing an initiative that basically stated that a record label could not hold an artist to their contract while not releasing new music. His label company is basically forbidding him from pursuing his livelihood as an artist in any form or fashion, you would think there would be those in government who would find issue with this and do something to assist this young man.
He's so talented! Plays instruments, has a wonderful vocal, is handsome and super charismatic.
It's so horrible all this is happening, let us not turn this into another forgotten case, justice must be served #freevictor
It’s kinda crazy that those contracts don’t breach some kinda of labour laws in korea. Some of these contracts should be considered illegal as they restrict the artist from getting job in his field (if you ask me to get a job in something else than my field I’m going to starve)
I don't think labour laws really exist in Korea. I have a friend in Korea who once told me he is beginning to get too exhausted because he has to work 80 hours a week. I almost broke down in tears because i felt so helpless that my friend was being exploited but it was deemed legal in SK. It's bloody crazy and its pisses me off.
@@cocoaicci_ I think labour contracts exists in Korean industry. In small companies or in big companies trainees have to work even tho it's their work under the companies. A kpop boy group was used by staff for their personal life(staff's). That kpop boy group was brutally sexually harrassed and beaten by manager/CEO(I forgot who it is). Like labour contracts exists in Korean industry.
Well it is a countey dead set on becoming more "advanced". It advanced all right but the laws and attitudes remained about the same. Kinda like Japan. What do we expect?
@@Hany0874 even if Labour laws do exist in SK they're still ridiculous. They exploit the hell out of their own Citizens. It's not acceptable and there is no excuse. Even Kpop idols pass out on stage and people act like that's fine and completely normal. And then fans feel sad for a while and then instantly go back to supporting their idols being exploited all because they want to listen to some kpop.
@@bmona7550 I just know that neoliberalism is the real desease of our societies. Even in USA and Europe we have seen labour laws destroyed after 2008 economic crisis. I just find it mind boggling that we all are ok with giving cero importance to the working class, unless oneself is in the bad situation.
Btw, a lot of how the world treats it’s people is a direct consequence of multinationals influencing governments around the world, so I would love to know more about the labour movement in Korea.
This is another thing that the Koreans hide, if he had started in Brazil with those looks and eyes of his he would have become big, especially if he had started out acting in Brazilian soap dramas! in a way I understand why he took the chance to become an idol in Korea, it's sad seeing how a talented young man is being blocked by an entertainment company! His story should be a lesson for everyone who wants to be an artist in South Korea!
Yup if he started as a streamer/youtuber/influencer/tiktoker or even an actor in Brazil, it would be such a better choice :/
But I know his dream was to be an idol
i dont understand why he try be idol in Korea - better go to US
You mean with those contacts ? I thought they were white at first and he was trying to go for that vampire/creepy type of look or something.
Well many only see the bright side in kpop. I bet if he know whats gonna happen he would choose a different path. Korean always want their own kind to be the most successful such a jealousy people.
This has nothing to do with normal, "Koreans." If most, "Koreans," were really against him, then he would've not gained his RUclips support nor be featured on TV shows.
This is just a classic, unfortunate, case of entertainment corporations bullying and exploiting their artists. It happens in the U.S. as well (Prince vs. Warner Bros., Dr. Dre vs. Death Row Records, Johnny Cash vs. Columbia, Michael Jackson vs. Sony, and etc).
If anything, Korea is just a country where it's not as common/not easy for a person to branch out with bold individualism. So is the same with many other countries. We have to understand that most countries in the world were/are homogenous, and had limited interactions with foreign nations/people for most of their history. So, naturally, these places aren't fond of individualism to an extent we might see in places like the U.S. (a country built on immigrants).
It's not okay to generalize a whole ethnic group, so it's better to specify. Comments like, "Korean... such a jealousy people." from Mp 111 and such are... well, prejudice.
It is abhorrent that a company can literally take a musician life away, out of animosity.
Somehow laws have to be passed that protects a person‘s right to earn a living.
What do the gain by taking a persons life away?
Certainly not any type of respect!
Thank you Danny you are brave enough to speak up and doing horrible situations like this too light.
An excellent presentation, again, I say thank you
This is ridiculous! They tried their best to prevent Victor from displaying his talents just because he was of foreign descent, but they forgot that he was also half Korean. In any case, lineage should not be regarded as a reason for differential treatment! If Victor can develop in other companies or countries except that nerd company, the result may be better!He's really great. His talent shouldn't be buried!Fighting！
This doesn’t have anything to do with money or entertainment, but someone limited vision and control freak issue. What a waste of him as a talent.
So.....Victor has depression and anxiety so bad that he cuts himself and this company shuts his voice. If this causes this poor guy to harm himself, I hope that company is ready to cancel themselves.
Please use #freevictor and share this video to spread awareness on what's happening.
More Kpop video essays like these:
How the #1 KPOP Idol became the MOST HATED person in Korea: ruclips.net/video/7JxMJk7aS5U/видео.html
Every Kpop Idol looks up to this Legendary Artist [G-Dragon] : ruclips.net/video/1bZQi_cHKsU/видео.html
I don't think I heard you say whether or not his restrictions are limited to Korea? Can he move elsewhere and continue his career?
I've been looking his video on RUclips but I couldn't find it. Now I Know why, thank you for bring this out. He is great artist
@@KimmyGibson Yes, I too wanted to know if Victor can continue his music career in any other country? Or he he forbidden worldwide by CORONA X?
Thank you for spreading the word about this! I’m sharing on my platforms as well! #freevictor 🥁
Pin your comment pls so more people can see
The good thing is, companies like this are kinda digging their own grave. Many people are aware what went down and nobody will ever give their trusts to them again. Not fans, not idol candidates. Victor can experience real life for six years, which in the long run, for a real artist is very essential, and even turn these events into something that he can publish a few years from now. I feel sorry for him, but for real artists it's just better to not get involved with the corrupt south korean entertainment industry. Soon these youths will learn from their predecessors's examples and never sign a shady-ass contract.
This reminds me of American r&b singer Jojo this contract mess happened to her she was a big hit at 13 in America with her song “leave get out” but after years of contract issues with her label she wasnt able to release music for almost a decade she’s now 30 and the contract issues have been settled so she’s been able to release new music as an adult but it took forever
Omg I had no idea that happened to her!! I thought she just disappeared
shes 30 now? holy shit😀🥲
And better than ever. JoJo deserves the world ❤
I didn't know this issue, i also thought she got married and settle but damn it's depressing for an artist to not be able to create music and share it to the world. So many cruel company who suck out the energy of their artist.
Jojo has new music with collabs! Definitely worth a listen!
I don't understand how anyone could allow any human being to be controlled like this, his freedom has been taken away and this has to be illegal, I hope Victor can grow and come out from this better than he was, I pray for his freedom.
In Germany he could sue that company over to Mars, Pluto, once all around the solar system and back. He should. This is clearly against the human rights.
That's the industry inskorea .. companies dictate
He should move over to another country and sue their ass
I'm so happy that you remember of Victor! I'm Brazilian, and I believe that he was discriminated.
Victor doesn't deserve this at all. He is basically being denied his existence by this company!!!
This is such a sad case :( He's so gorgeous and talented but I sadly really relate to the s/h and depression and it's actually kind of nice to hear about an idol/celebrity be open about it- not that s/h should be "normalized" but it's refreshing to see someone with a platform be honest about their darker struggles. Victor was done so horribly- a trainee for 8 damn years just to be kicked out over nonsense and shadiness and then forced to be silent. Truly wishing the best for him! #freevictor
also according to victor, his company was fucking racist towards him and made fun of his "dark" complexion and latino ethnicity- it's so disgusting and stuff like this makes me hate the entertainment industry, especially the korean entertainment industry bc the colorism and xenophobia is REAL
I'm not even a kpop fan (came here out of curiosity and respect for this dude's talent), but compared to the stuff i see in most bands I listen to, what Viktor did is relatively tame and doesn't deserve all the backlash. Plus, he seems to have a lot of potential and is doing a lot to bring awareness to mental health, which is great (if that makes sense).
Kinda sucks that this sort of thing is prevalent in South korea, not to say it doesn't happen anywhere else, but it's sucks to see that it's prevalent, normalized, and brushed under the rug there specifically.
I follow him on YT. When he was 1st kicked out of the group he would regularly post on YT. I wondered why he hadn't posted any videos in a long time. But I thought his lawyers cleared everything up. Such a shame.
What's his channel?
@@dorothy.j His channel was victor the drum destroyer but his channel was deleted because of his former company
This is insane and sad, he's not ruining the company's "image", they are ruining by acting this petty
Seriously this ruined their own companies image more than victor ever could have. You suck corona x!
This is so unfair. I can't imagine how sad Victor must feel. I hope he's somewhat okay and will get his rights back. #FreeVictor
Okay, I'm curious. Since Victor is banned from having anything to do with music or whatever puts him in the spotlight, then what is he under contract for? What does the contract say? If the terms of the contract are that he performs, then he can file a motion to dismiss the ban on this alone. Also, if the contract IS for him to perform, the the contract-holder has already broken the contract by banning him performing. It can't have anything to do with breaking drumsticks. How many guitarists have broken their guitars that we know of? And they've never been punished. It's seen as artistic license.
Entirely clueless about how contracts are drafted for these things but logically speaking it might have been somewhere along the lines of having rights to anything this guy produces and an added clause that it needs the company’s permission to be shown publicly.
Don’t think of it as a “I’m signed to do this” kind of thing but instead “I’m signed as yours” for a certain period of time. Fckd up yea
Besides breaking small little wee wood like that no matter intensions few destroyed whole drum guitars w.e case show was more intense makes good views this guy gets silence with contracts man what luck over stick
I never usually wish bad for someone in general but I am literally fuming at the company’s actions here. They know this guy is super talented and they had the power to ofcourse let Victor go and put this issue at rest but they clearly are extremely petty and pathetic !! I feel sorry for Victor who basically has to give up his passion and livelihood for 6 whole years and restart his life again. Ofcourse as a drummer he can always get back in the game (I hope he does). I don’t know legally if there is any way for Victor to fight this back but yeah the whole situation is extremely sad
he’s so talented :( all of this over a drumstick i feel so bad for him omds
I guess you know how good you really are when people don't want you to do ANYTHING! I liked his RUclips channel. Honestly, if they're going this far to prevent him from doing any music or social interaction other companies should try to pick him up after or something.
given the situation and the fact that Victor is banned from practically living; other companies cannot pick him up since he is still technically still under their control and it would have to go through the parent companies, and given they want him to be completely off the radar i doubt they will allow him to be picked up by other companies. also he would still have to terminate his previous contract with the parent companies before he can transfer to another. It really is such a terrible situation for Victor and i wish him the best. also please do quote this as fact i just think that's how it works but I'm not 100% sure. #freevictor
@Stan_TheBoyz yeah it really is terrible. I would hope he stays positive and when this is all over shows everyone what he's got!
@@gingersnap_2727 yeah... Victor is very strong and I'm sure that this situation will motivate him to push himself to be even better since that is what happened when he started his own content. He is insanely talented and i really hope he does stay positive so he can show the companies what they lost with such an amazing person. It's such a shame that this company treated him with such little respect even with his mental state at the time till now, i just hope he is taking care of himself and coping with such a situation. i am trying to remain positive myself since i feel that's what he would want from us as fans. if want to talk more i am practically always available.
can’t this be considered as a violation of human rights? Can’t he go to the International Court to challenge the legality of this decision?
#freeVictor
stay strong, Victor. I hope you’re fine
It takes money. But yes I think. I'm not pro at law.
True and it's so hypocritical when you see them commiserating when a celebrity dies by suicide when it's the toxic culture is what drove the celebrity to depression.
This is bizarre. Just imagine being an artist and all of a sudden you're not allowed to just do what you love... no company should have such power towards any artist. Victor, força, estamos com você. 🇧🇷 #freevictor
I’m wondering. Is it that Victor cannot technically post himself? Can we as supporters post about him? What is the law governing this?
@@adeleennis2255 I think we can and we should, to make everyone aware of his situation
I see rockstars and performers breaking their instruments all the time it's part of the performance. they definitely used that as an excuse to kick him out
Saudades do victor 🥺🥺🥺🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷 Brasil sempre estará esperando por você!!!
Gente, alguém consegue traduzir o que ele está falando!?!?
@@adatenshi ele basicamente explicou a situação do victor depois q ele foi tirado do grupo por quebrar o palitinho da bateria, e que ele foi banido de fazer qualquer aparição em qualquer rede social até o contrato dele com a empresa (corona x entertainment) acabar por “difamar” a imagem da empresa, quando ele só tava compartilhando a história dele online e fazendo musica sozinho, oq pode significar que ficaremos mais 6 ou 5 anos sem ver ele em nenhum lugar
sempre!!!
Faz esse vídeo pra nós? Dando esse update prós brasileiros?
@Ersa nossa mina não tinha outro lugar pra vc divulgar sua putaria não? Vá te lascar
GOOD LORD I SERIOUSLY FEEL SICK THAT THIS CAN AND IS HAPPENING TO VICTOR OR ANY ARTIST IN A CONTRACT. HOW BARBARIC . HOW CAN A COMPANY OWN A PERSONS RIGHT TO LIVE THEIR LIFE FOR A MINUTE... BUT 6 YEARS. THANKYOU DANNY FOR GETTING THIS MORE, AND GREAT COVERAGE. DON'T LET THIS BE FORGOTTEN
Can you imagine? This man has been perfecting his craft for more than 10 years and he gets banned from the very same thing he loved and worked so hard for? I hope this gets solved. I've dedicated 8 years of my life to cooking so far, I don't know what I would do if I was banned from cooking for others
This is so sad. He just wanted to be himself and express his passion for music. What he did to him was inhumane. 😔
They are trying to steal his youth and talent. This is legit the kind of thing that causes entertainers to lose their will. Sincerely hope that they consider his contract void in these cases so that he can do what he loves. We will not forget you Victor!!!
How is that constitutional? They are basically stripping him of the right to get any income from his profession. Plus how is the company allowed to own his image without any counter obligations like actively putting an effort to promote their talent and get them jobs opportunities? That's absurd.
Kpop companies in general are weird af
freedom to contract, recognized in most constitutions.
@@murderofcrows2179 rights clash and reedom of contract is not an absolute right otherwise one would be able to submit others to slavery of inhumane conditions by contract among other many absurd possibilities. but that's not possible, right? exactly because rights related to human dignity axiologically carry more weight than those relating to protection of property & wealth. not to mention that nowadays Courts & Academia point out the abuse-of-right principle which forbids the exercise of a right with the sole intent to harm others (clearly the case in point btw). so yeah the answer is not as simple as "they have the freedom of contract right".
my original question was rhetorical anyways. if their Law system allows that or not it doesn't matter; it's just a pity that they are far behind in that subject.
If the company is suspiciously named after a virus even before the said virus went global, one must run as far away from them as possible
That's so petty and dumb. Why not either let him make money for the company he's under contract with or let him go? It's counter productive to everyone involved, not to mention a stupid business decision.
The company just want to run him down to the ground. It's more about saving face for the company at this point.
I think it's mostly them wanting to set an example, stuff like this happens quite often unfortunately:(
@@DKDKTV Would you ever talk about the TVXQ/JYJ Split? Its similar to this, even if its older, but its a BIG watershed moment for Kpop, as it allowed people to see the reach that SM entertainment had then.
You have alot to choose from for SM contracts lol... Super Junior Hangeng, TVXQ, EXO Chinaline lawsuits come to mind
@@WolfTitan99 OMG yesss i'd love a video about the TVXQ/JYJ split as well
Oh my God! Thank you for sharing this video. This case should become an international justice case. This is literally slavery. They're making him captive like a prisoner. Such kind of contracts should be forbidden or not recognised at all by law. Maybe Victor should recurre to an international tribunal for human rights. Forbidding him to make public appearance at all is forbidding him to have a voice right. Does someone knows if he still leaves in South Korea? If yes, he should move to another country. Terrible case. I'm very sorry for this young man. This is a shame for the Asian entertainment industry. Such kind of things also happen in the big Western music labels but I've never heard any case that the artists could never reinvent themselves or make career by themselves. I bet these judges are all corrupt and have gotten a lot of money from this company to make them get the victory over Victor human rights. I'm really very shocked with this.
To take up someones young life like that is crazy. Just because they were terrified that he started speaking up about mental health issues on public tv... if it is about him going off by himself as an independent artist than there must be other ways to resolve this issue rather than the big bully persona the company (who I never heard of until now) gives off
Speaking about their mental issues is their way of reaching out for help. This is the main reason lots of celebrities commit suicide. They are forbidden to ask for help. Some of these idols/trainees are probably not being treated well by their agencies.
Thanks for giving Victor a voice, Danny. He doesn‘t deserve to be silenced.
I’m so god damn angry that this has happened to him. He has so much fucking potential. He’s clearly a visual and a talented musician. Corona X and it’s parent companies are fighting him this hard because they KNOW he will be successful. This isn’t about “contract terms and legalities” this is purely spiteful and vindictive behavior. They only care about harming and damaging his future because they know they are less relevant than he is. We need to fight this and sign petitions. Not only so that the company knows that they cannot get away with this but so that he knows we have not forgotten him and still support him. I’m worried for his mental and physical well being and truly wish for peace of mind for him during this time.
Atualização: O Victor ainda não voltou, mas a mãe dele tem um canal no RUclips e posta alguns vídeos dando notícia sobre ele. O nome do canal dela é "Sonia Han". #freevictor
Korean labor laws need an overhaul. The stuff I see about some of the labor exploitation is terrible. People not getting paid for work, open racial and disability discrimination, and these companies treating entertainment talent like slaves.
it happens in america, that is why there are so many lawsuits. discrimination at work, check US or Japan. if you are shocked, get out from under the rock.
@@murderofcrows2179 While yes every country has shitty labor laws because they always favor corporations and the elite over an individual.... in America there is no way in hell a music company could stop an artist from having an instagram or youtube channel. Hell even people who are arrested for crimes in America can't even have their youtube channel removed unless they are convicted of a crime and it has to be a serious crime. Yes music labels in America can keep them from releasing music if they have a contract but even then there are ways artist can get around that, such as changing their artist name, which many have done before but that doesn't even seem to be an option in Korea. It seems that the laws, as explained in the video, allow them to completely silence them in every possible way which is insane and frightening.
I had a friend who ever since I knew him had a musical keyboard he took everywhere he went. He lived and breathed music and he learned to compose his own. He never wanted fame. All he wanted was to play for the people around him and share his love of music… it saved his life because he dealt with mental health too and he used his love of music to heal him.
This guy was wronged in one of the worst ways. Self harm is a cry for help. It is a physical sign that he is dealing with mental pain so much that he causes harm to himself to redirect that pain so he can make sense of it. He clearly has a love for music and it is a positive way of showing expression. My heart goes out to this man. I hope he does not give up music but keeps at it and after these six years, I hope he comes back to the public with his middle fingers up to this company. There will be people waiting for his comeback.
This is why I don't like "rock" music in kpop in general. It's just not as genuine when rock music is meant to be organtic, wild, free. They have companies and rules controlling them too much.
there’s loads of krock groups that are indie in korea. i wish i could just support them all! :)
More like... rock is prohibited for these companies. There are many great K-rock bands but sadly because of the lack of support they get from these companies they shift to Japan or other neighboring countries & make it big over there (like FTisland)
you should check out the show SuperBand or any indie krock bands, they’re all fantastic
unnie please look for jyp new boy rock group. They have a debut call happy death day and its very wild and free. please support them!🙏🏽
@@disneytoysr4fun975 wild free? i ve already listened to them and i guess you re not familiar with rock music
Thank you, so much for sharing Victor's story. I'm praying that things will turn around for Victor. 🙏🙏🙏
This is so wrong for them doing that to him.
This K-pop thing starts to sound like modern slavery more and more. Is there a way to fight this without harming the artists?
It kida is because they have horrible working conditions, get bullied by the company's for everything, the girls often end up with eating disorders or awful self doubt, they have unattainable standerds and they don't get payed wedges at all. Also no boyfriends/girlfriends. No relationships at all even a girls dad wasn't allowed to see her on her birthday. And you arnt garantted a carrior after years worth of training so all that hardship is worth nothing to a lot of trainees. And they pray on how a lot of people will not read the contracts properly due to genuinely wanting to be a popstar. And you see all these children wanting to go though that not knowing how bad it is these companies pray on peoples dreams
I know that's why I name it what it is: modern slavery. But that said, in my country there is a scandal going on about the Voice. Sexual harassment and abuse. The programme has been stopped yesterday for the adult talents as well as the child talents. The police is now investigating all cases.
and the truth is that THIS IS BETTER THAN IT USED TO BE. they literally used to sign the famous Slave Contracts and they were a lot worse than this. but this is barely any improvement..... F Korea for this
Because it had been backed up by gangsterism since the early age. So, it’s literally a concept of prostitution just minus the sex if you’re lucky enough. But, the people at the top usually either gangsters or related to some gangsters. Even the politicians usually have some gangsterism entanglement out of the radar.
Corona X actions are downright petty and soul sucking. Wishing Victor all the best and hopefully learn from this not to sign a contract that gives a company the rights to suppress your livelihood.
This is almost as worst as imprisonment. Shame on the comoany and anyone who is helping them keep him from having a life.
Thank you so much for talking about this. He's in trouble. #freeVictor
It’s insane how a company can have this kind of power over a human being…
Estamos com você Victor!! 🇧🇷
It's shocking to me. Is he a murderer who should be kept away? He's breached a contract, OK, fire him and sue him for compensation. How is it possible and how is it at all legal to prevent a person from engaging in his profession? And how does everyone and especially the media cooperate with it instead of going against such a blatantly draconian and inhuman law?
I guess you played the song "ON" in the background not by chance. I wish Victor "Win no matter what" .
He only has one more year left until the ban is lifted so he can finely comeback to RUclips and possibly music
The Only silver lining is unlike dancers, a drummers/rockers career can be for their whole life. It sucks to loose the six years but he's still got a LONG career ahead of him in the future. Especially with his looks!
I hope he can get free sooner though!
It’s sickening that people have the power to completely restrict someone’s life like this. My heart goes out to Victor because having these restrictions on how creative freedom can’t be easy to deal with
Wow! And he's in his prime. This should be a crime for companies to ruin people's lives. From what I heard, nothing warrented him being kicked out of the group. But even still, what does the company gain to do what they've done? I hope other artists steer clear of that company. Also, people need to take care of these artists too so that they don't sign their lives away to these predators. I hope he's free soon because this is prison without walls. Shame on all of those involved in this slavery.
Victor is free spirited, I love that in an artist so much....but companies want to keep artists chained obviously.
Hopefully Victor sees us rooting for him! He has such unique star qualities.
I am so dismayed that crap like that happens. It is nuts