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Here’s how I always described the difference: Wooden rides it feels like you’re in a car, driving along the track, similar to how you can feel the road below you when you’re driving. Steel coasters feel like you’re flying along the track, but also secured to the track (Gliding along the track)
The classic Woodie is my favorite kind of coaster. Just something about the rumbling of the ride as you go through the layout is really appealing to me
@@mateuszodrzywoek8658 eh? Just the fact wooden can’t handle steep and high hills and horrid loops and corkscrews has to reduce the “puke” factor. Rough sometimes? Yes, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue as much as turning one over and disorienting.
I really like wild coasters with strong ejector air or other high-speed elements. So when it comes to how good a coaster is, the layout is actually more important to me than the material, even though wooden coasters often appear faster to me. However, most of the modern wooden coasters seem to be much wilder than the steel ones, so I really like those as well.
As a German enthusiast, we don't have the classic old wooden coasters. The oldest wooden coaster in Germany is actually just over 20 years old. So we just don't have that nostalgia. Having said that, I just love smooth rides. B&M, Intamin, modern Vekoma, Gerstlauer… And in my opinion, the smoothest wooden coaster is still miles away from a decent steel coaster. The only woody I enjoyed in the last few years was Joris en de Draak at De Efteling.
Well, Wodan is a great ride as well. Its fast pacing, quick transitions and high-speed hills make it so much more thrilling compared to the steel coasters at Europa Park.
@Dexter Frebish's Electric Roller Ride from where I live, both of these countries are like an 8-hour drive away… the closest wooden coaster to me is Bandit at Movie Park Germany… which is utter shit in my opinion.
@@StamfordBridge 1. Joris is in the Netherlands. 2. I rode Colossus a few years ago and I didn't like it that much. One of the better wooden coasters I've been on, but still not better than a lot of steel coasters…
In my opinion, wooden rollercoasters provide terror striking experiences already and don’t even need inversions. Steel coasters are scary, but woodies have the power to literally make you feel like you are going to die, without even needing more expensive steel tracks. When I last went to Lagoon, the wooden coaster scared me the most out of every ride there, even their behemoth of a steel coaster, Cannibal.
Great video, you can really see the advancements made to the content on this channel in the last few months, commentary is much smoother and I like the addition of references to other videos, parks and the rides themselves!
Thanks Dom, that means a lot. Recently other members of the channel have been having more input into the scripts of the videos, and as you noticed it's turned out great. Thanks for noticing :)
I love the aesthetics of a purely wooden roller-coaster! The perfectly regular mesh of wooden bars and planks ... it's fascinating to think that it endures the forces that enact upon it! From all the footage I've seen, RMC's hybrid coasters seem to feature a less regular supportive mesh with steal beams at crazy angles, which I don't find as appealing.
Very nicely put together. The bit about different coasters' service life was particularly interesting. As for me, I think Steel is always gonna win out.
Hi, you make really good videos! It would really help if you answer. Just asking advice: are different theme and amusement park firms' videos and photos (for example official on-rides) copyright free or how you can use them? Thank you for your help!
Often is the park is trying to promote their new rides, for example, they seem more than happy to share photos - I haven't had any issues. With videos it's always best to ask for permission, but from my experience it's more of the same, parks want their rides to be publicised :)
Both. Unless it's promotional material put out by the park, and you are wanting to ride the hype, then you might not as for permission (though we probably should) but it's always worth putting the links to the original videos somewhere in the description :)
My favorite at the moment is definitely wood. they tend to have more intense rides, and more airtime. although i havent ridden alot of coasters yet. only been to great america and magic mountain, as well as knott's
the reason why I love wooden roller coasters more is simply the way it feels/drives, It feels more rough and very non-smooth and that's what I like about them.
I'm not the bravest rider of roller coasters, and that's partly why I prefer wooden ones. They're a little easier to grasp if I can tolerate them or not. Though I will admit that I'm somewhat bias, since Blackpool Pleasure Beach is my nearest themepark, and they maintain most of their historic wooden coasters in addition to new ones. Were it not for the long ques, I'd love to ride on a steel coaster like Air at Alton Towers!
@@danielledewitt1 Whatever it's called these days. I haven't been there since high school. (And for reference, I went to Camelot theme park in high school.)
I don't know anyone who likes one type of coaster over another. I think we all just enjoy an awesome ride. And I've gotten them on wood, steel, and wood/steel hybrids. :) The rides that are highest on my bucket list include both wood and steel coasters!
Wooden coasters will always have my heart, there's just something about them. They have a certain ride character, sight, and even smell to them. A woodie that was built well in the first place and maintained can run great for years and years which the smaller parks especially continue to prove to the public. Another thing I like is that a woodie proves that a coaster doesn't have to be enormous to provide a huge thrill. A woodie that's only 100 feet tall or even less is often more thrilling than a steel coaster of the same height and speed because of the feel. 50 mph on a woodie feels much faster than 50 mph on a steel coaster. Don't get me wrong, I love steel coasters and many of them out there are some of my favorites. I would say you just can't compare wood and steel coasters, they're meant to provide completely different rides.
That 20-40 year life span terrifies me. Imagine a U.K without Nemesis and the Big One? I know people said that about the Corkscrew, but seeing the end of the country's first Great Coaster War would be grounds for the declaration of a national holiday.
Quite a few of the steel roller coasters at Blackpool are 40 years old now. But yes, the world is going to be a different place without Nemesis or the Big One!
RMC be like: Inversions on woodies, throw in a launch on a Woodie, have both Steel and wood, and decide to do one rail. I really want to know what goes on in alan shilke's mind.
Wooden roller coasters are way more thrilling imo. I used to be afraid of roller coaster because all I rode were wooden. The first steel roller coaster I rode at the end I thought "is that it". It.was so lackluster.
You should actually do a wood versus steel preference poll. I’m pretty sure steel would win, but I’d be interested to see the percentages. I love both but definitely tend to love woodies most.
@@coasterbot what's your preferred type of the two? I personally love steel coasters! The twisted layouts full of high speeds and inversions create such an enjoyable and insane experience! I'm glad I could give you some feedback for your excellent videos. 👍😀
Of course the wood vs steel (vs hybrid) question is just for fun and there is no straightforward answer. I think parks need both. When a steel coaster becomes rough it doesn't mean it feels like a wooden coaster. It just means that it gives you a headache. And depending on the restraints it may also pound on you uncomfortably. So you can't really mimic wooden coasters by just having steel coasters that are rough. There are some very smooth wooden coasters that still have the out of control feeling so they don't feel like steel coasters. Conversely, there are many things that wooden coasters just can't do. And steel has added a greater variety than what you see from wood. And while there are some super smooth wooden coasters, most are at least a little rough and many are painfully rough. A park with only steel would be missing out on the fun of wood. A park with only wood would miss out on variety and would probably end up being a park that guarantees you a headache.
@@gmoney2734 there was one wooden inverted coaster very very very long ago, in the 1910s. It was basically a lift hill and then a downward spiral around a tower. Also, it was suspended (so the cars swung) and not inverted A real inverted coaster that is from wood doesn't exist.
The only thing that really matters o me about a ride is its smoothness. If it doesn't give me a pounding headache and make me feel like I'm in a blender, it's good to me.
4th - 90's style steel ("we have THIS many inversions!!!"). Dragon Khan style rides feel super dated now. 3rd - wooded coasters (for out of control lulz) 2nd - modern steel non-inverting hypercoasters+ (for zomg speedz) 1st - RMC conversions (they will eat your soul - twice)
Finally occurred to me that an advantage to wood would be for timid customers. Realized the wooden always have a visible support while you’re in the train. Steel don’t need all that structure so it’s almost invisible from the train. Much more intimidating for timid passengers.
i really appreciate that you use lots of uk / european coasters for footage in your videos, it gets so tiring seeing the same american coasters over and over in every other video
For 80 years no one has ever ever referred to Coney Island's Cyclone as a "Hybrid". It is arguably the most famous "wooden" and iconic classic coaster in the world. The supports are made of STEEL! Its not alone. RMC came along and INVENTED a "marketing term" to stand for "let's rip off these old wooded rails and stick our new I-Box steel ones on top of the old wooden support structure to spruce up this old woodie--looks weird so we'll call it a HYBRID." An RMC coaster is a STEEL coaster. They are thrilling and fantastic. However... A proper woodie is actually giant sculpture meant to be RIDDEN, as in horseback riding. In the 60's we kids weren't stapled to the seats. We used the safety bar to maneuver our ride experience and control the amount of airtime we wanted. The word "smoothness" wasn't even in our vocabulary! Today's restraints all but destroy an authentic wood coaster ride. Today's snowflakes would saw their horses' legs off and RMC them. I love horror movies and comedies. I love steel...wood has a special fascination for me though.
I didn't realise Coney Island cyclone was a hybrid coaster, that's really interesting to know. I think the term is a new one but these rides are different to their all wood and all steel counterparts and it's best to give them different terminology
@@coasterbot The problem is that the US industry classifies coasters in their own specific way and with the public it can vary..this can lead to confusion. I've been trying to investigate the matter, and have not found any evidence that the material used for the supports has any bearing on how a coaster ride "feels". Track type which determines train type etc. seems to be the biggest determining factor in rider's preferences. I love having this discussion and thanks for a great channel.
youve been comparing coaster manufactuerers but i cant seem to find one on arrow dynamics or that italian one pinfari or the asian manufactuer that made do do dompa
I use to hate wooden roller coasters because from my experience or at least from what I remember most of them were rough and I just thought that was an inherent quality of them then I realized that steel coasters can also be rough as well and that a wooden coaster is one of my favorite roller coasters
On a poorly built, and/or maintained wooden coaster, i don't at all care to be shaken around like a can of paint. Nothing else will so quickly give me a pounding headache, ruining my day, as the shaking, jolting, jackhammer-ing of a bad wooden coaster. So, while I would profess to liking steel coasters better, I must admit that I have not yet been on a Rocky Mountain Construction hybrid coaster, and very much so look forward to doing so. Great vid, thanks for the upload!
When is the episode on the Matterhorn Bobsleds going to come out??? It was the first steel roller coaster, soooo... just saying. But all the same, love your videos👍
It wasn't the first steel roller coaster, or the first steel roller coaster to feature tubular track. But who knows, maybe one day we'll dive into the history books and explore the Matterhorn Bobsleds. ;)
@@coasterbot Yes. You could make an awesome ride using electromagnetic energy. Costly but awesome. You can really have a gliding feeling and also boost the ride on any point you choose.
I like all kinds of coasters, both wood, steel & hybrid- but I would probably say wood for its nostalgia factor. Take The Beast from this video, my favorite coaster and first "big" coaster- just has that grease smell on the chain in the hot sun, and that raw wild almost out of control feel. Then how the ride changes on weather, it's much more of a living thing than a steel coaster that provides the same ride every time
You left out one of the biggest differences: wheels. Most wood coasters have steel wheels running on steel strips, giving them far lower friction and sense they could keep going forever. RMC conversions have rubber treads, so they have to raise the lift and speed and still finish with wicked little hills since they're going so slow. Some large wood coasters such as El Toro also use rubber tread, but as wood coasters that size otherwise tend to be failures, they get a pass and can still be "wood" coasters instead of "rubber" coasters ....
That's interesting, I forgot about wheel compounds (they don't come up in discussion very much). As you said that's definitely one of the reasons wooden coasters carry their speed!
I am clueless as to how many people adore wooden coasters way over steel. I guess it's just a preference, but I like my rides smooth, I don't want bruised hips and shoulders or neckpain (yes some steel coasters may give you that as well). But overall, most wooden coasters I've ridden are too forceful, in a bad way. That and (in my opinion) steel coasters can have way more variety. To each their own, I guess. I do enjoy hybrids but I would say that rather classifies as steel instead of wooden.
I could go on forever with details, re entire life story riding coasters, But for now I'll just sum it up by saying if the stats are the same then wooden is better, but if one is blind to the stats, then perhaps steel is better. My two favourite wooden coasters I've ridden are Coaster at Playland and Ghostrider at Knott's berry Farm , but my two favourite metal coasters I've ridden are Millennium Force and Steel Vengeance. But what I'm saying isn't fair considering I've never ridden an Intamin wooden prefab or The Voyage. However: then again again I've never ridden a B&M hyper oversized, undersized or actually in between ( with a drop between between 200' and 300') You've got the best questions! I only wish I could give you better answers.
There aren't ever easy answers to my questions, that's the point! It's your opinion and sometimes you don't have a preference, but enjoy each experience for it's different qualities.
To me the visual aspect is one key difference...if you compare Colossos at Heide Park with EGF they are about the same height but Colossos just looks a lot more intimidating and massive.
I have only roden like 2 family costars whizzer and viper at six flags great America both great rides about the same height built around the same time and I LOVE both so I dont really have a preference both are good
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Yeah I don’t have a lanyard and I’m an enthusiast so HA
Coaster Fusion You mean you *thought* you were an enthusiast. But, well, if you don’t even have a lanyard, I mean .....
StamfordBridge I’m not an enthusiast then?
Coaster Fusion Well, come on, with no lanyard, how could you be an enthusiast?
StamfordBridge no one else has made that rule...
So, wood or steel?
RMC: “Yes”.
Soon to be gci too, they have a hybrid track as well
vic jaxon well really them and Gravity Group have made hybrids
Finally someone who knows how to correctly apply this meme
Lol
lego is my fav
RMC - “Why not both” 🤷🏽♂️
Lol yup
What's rmc?
And British rail
@@a.3160 Lmao gp its rocky mountain construction
yes
1900s: Wood roller coasters
1950s: Steel roller coasters
2000s: Plastic roller coasters?
That's next level thinking ;)
it acctually existed plastic roller coasters
2020: paper roller coasters
Carbon fiber rollercoasters
Fiberglass coasters
I dont care if its a wooden or an steel or an i Box coaster
Main thing is that it is a (good) coaster
(^_^)
I mean that both are good not the same
Yes!
@@coasterbot what u answerd 😱🙂
Lol
U cool, yeah ...
That answer from me is unneeded
(Stroke lol)
I love the Looks of a wooden Coaster!
Me too!
My favorite is a nice rmc hybrid
Same, especially around Christmas time when the lights follow the track
You know what would be awesome?
If Harry made a livestream playing no limits 2 or planet coaster.
We need this !
Oli Combs indeed my friend indeed
I have done this in the past, maybe we can do it at some point in the future
COASTER BOT yes thank you
@@coasterbot rollercoaster tycoon 3?
Wood or steel
B&m: steel
Gci:wood
Rmc: i agree
Steel : intimin >B&M>Mack>Gershlauer>Vekoma>ARROW>Zamperla
Wood : RMC >GCI>intimin prefab >DINN>CCI>RCCOA
On a GCI:
Wood: Haha I am the track
Steel: but I support you, I am more important.
Rmc: We will make u both useful
Here’s how I always described the difference:
Wooden rides it feels like you’re in a car, driving along the track, similar to how you can feel the road below you when you’re driving.
Steel coasters feel like you’re flying along the track, but also secured to the track
(Gliding along the track)
I like this
Agreed. Although I know it not, Wooden roller coaster always FEEL faster.
The classic Woodie is my favorite kind of coaster. Just something about the rumbling of the ride as you go through the layout is really appealing to me
100 vomiting guests per minute might want to disagree
Same
@@mateuszodrzywoek8658 eh? Just the fact wooden can’t handle steep and high hills and horrid loops and corkscrews has to reduce the “puke” factor. Rough sometimes? Yes, but that doesn’t seem to be an issue as much as turning one over and disorienting.
@theOlLineRebel Got to agree with you there
Just looking at corkscrew coaster - 1 makes me feel sick.....
I don’t know why but this is my favorite coaster channel
and you don't know why? :)
and what
You're very kind, thanks for watching and enjoying our content :)
I like the satisfying shake when you get airtime on a woodie, like the way Voyage does
I really like wild coasters with strong ejector air or other high-speed elements. So when it comes to how good a coaster is, the layout is actually more important to me than the material, even though wooden coasters often appear faster to me.
However, most of the modern wooden coasters seem to be much wilder than the steel ones, so I really like those as well.
It's the same for me, but as you said wood and wild often come hand in hand :)
Me: *does homework*
Coaster bot posting this: I’m gonna end this men’s whole career!
I hope we didn't end your career ;)
bruh my teacher is having us watch this for homework
Whenever I have an anxiety attacks or if I'm about to, I watch your vids. They calm me down INSTANTLY.
I prefer the woodies. They provide a different ride each time. Steel make some great coasters at well.
Loving the hybrid wood/steel combos myself. InvadR at Busch Gardens and Twisted Timbers at Kings Dominion are fast and fun.
I agree, wooden coasters are usually enjoyable no matter what
I’m on team Hybrid.
Agreed
Same
RMC's iBox hybrids aren't steel coasters, they're steel-tracked hybrids. Gnd Gravity Group's steel-structured coasters aren't wooden, they're wood-tracked hybrids.
As a German enthusiast, we don't have the classic old wooden coasters. The oldest wooden coaster in Germany is actually just over 20 years old. So we just don't have that nostalgia.
Having said that, I just love smooth rides. B&M, Intamin, modern Vekoma, Gerstlauer… And in my opinion, the smoothest wooden coaster is still miles away from a decent steel coaster. The only woody I enjoyed in the last few years was Joris en de Draak at De Efteling.
Well, Wodan is a great ride as well. Its fast pacing, quick transitions and high-speed hills make it so much more thrilling compared to the steel coasters at Europa Park.
@@themeparkchallengeofficial I haven't been to Europapark since before they got Blue Fire.
@Dexter Frebish's Electric Roller Ride from where I live, both of these countries are like an 8-hour drive away… the closest wooden coaster to me is Bandit at Movie Park Germany… which is utter shit in my opinion.
Joris is actually a great woodie. But you should get up to Heide and try Colossos.
@@StamfordBridge 1. Joris is in the Netherlands. 2. I rode Colossus a few years ago and I didn't like it that much. One of the better wooden coasters I've been on, but still not better than a lot of steel coasters…
Great video Harry! My top three coasters are The Voyage, El Toro and Eejanaika, but the ever growing possibilities with Steel are what I enjoy most. 😊
Thank you! All of those coasters look insane!
This was the most relaxing thing I've ever seen, and I'm not sure why.
But Steel.
Ha ha thank you :)
Harry : Wood or steel?
Me (an rmc fan) : Both
Same
What about British rail
In my opinion, wooden rollercoasters provide terror striking experiences already and don’t even need inversions. Steel coasters are scary, but woodies have the power to literally make you feel like you are going to die, without even needing more expensive steel tracks. When I last went to Lagoon, the wooden coaster scared me the most out of every ride there, even their behemoth of a steel coaster, Cannibal.
Great video, you can really see the advancements made to the content on this channel in the last few months, commentary is much smoother and I like the addition of references to other videos, parks and the rides themselves!
Thanks Dom, that means a lot. Recently other members of the channel have been having more input into the scripts of the videos, and as you noticed it's turned out great. Thanks for noticing :)
You used the hyper in my home park in the thumbnail!!! I’m so proud! People seriously under look SFOG
As long as I am having fun then either is perfectly fine.
I like how Wooden look and feel. Giant, lumbering, uncontrollable beasts...
Hey...that sounds like a good name for a coaster...
Me too!
10/10 rides are possible with both types. I can't even decide if my favorite coaster is I305 or El Toro, anyways lol.
Both look awesome
I love the aesthetics of a purely wooden roller-coaster! The perfectly regular mesh of wooden bars and planks ... it's fascinating to think that it endures the forces that enact upon it!
From all the footage I've seen, RMC's hybrid coasters seem to feature a less regular supportive mesh with steal beams at crazy angles, which I don't find as appealing.
Very nicely put together. The bit about different coasters' service life was particularly interesting. As for me, I think Steel is always gonna win out.
Thank you, it certainly is interesting to think about!
Love it Harry , brilliantly explained 🎢🎢🙌🏽🧱👍🏽
Thanks guys :)
"As steel attractions are stronger in nature, they usually require less maintenance"... unless they're made by Intamin.
The amazing thing about wooden coasters is that I literally laugh out of excitement most of the time I ride them
Same! :)
Hi, you make really good videos! It would really help if you answer. Just asking advice: are different theme and amusement park firms' videos and photos (for example official on-rides) copyright free or how you can use them? Thank you for your help!
Often is the park is trying to promote their new rides, for example, they seem more than happy to share photos - I haven't had any issues. With videos it's always best to ask for permission, but from my experience it's more of the same, parks want their rides to be publicised :)
@@coasterbot Thanks a lot! So do you also ask permission for parks' footage or only for people's own footage?
Both. Unless it's promotional material put out by the park, and you are wanting to ride the hype, then you might not as for permission (though we probably should) but it's always worth putting the links to the original videos somewhere in the description :)
Coaster Bot: Wood or Steel?
Me: Yes.
I prefer steel because of the huge potential they have, but wooden coasters I think look more iconic
Woodies all the way. I love the head choppers, shaky airtime, and lats on woodies that isn't found on hybrids or steel coasters.
I totally get all that :)
I think that wood could become more popular if companies try to add more advanced features and element like when RMC built a launched wooden coaster
How RMC was born
The people: wood or steel?
The people: why not both?
RMC: Great idea!
My favorite at the moment is definitely wood. they tend to have more intense rides, and more airtime. although i havent ridden alot of coasters yet. only been to great america and magic mountain, as well as knott's
Great America in California or in illinois
@@champagne_papiiii when i wrote that comment, only illinois, but now ive been to both!
the reason why I love wooden roller coasters more is simply the way it feels/drives, It feels more rough and very non-smooth and that's what I like about them.
I couldn't agree more
I'm not the bravest rider of roller coasters, and that's partly why I prefer wooden ones. They're a little easier to grasp if I can tolerate them or not. Though I will admit that I'm somewhat bias, since Blackpool Pleasure Beach is my nearest themepark, and they maintain most of their historic wooden coasters in addition to new ones.
Were it not for the long ques, I'd love to ride on a steel coaster like Air at Alton Towers!
Mystic Mind Analysis You mean galactica.
@@danielledewitt1 Whatever it's called these days. I haven't been there since high school. (And for reference, I went to Camelot theme park in high school.)
Mystic Mind Analysis Same ride just remamed and rethemed. Oh and I loved camelot too.
If you can tolerate the Blackpool woodies you can tolerate anything, trust me ;)
COASTER BOT Indeed. I used to be a whimp til my sister got me on shiekra at busch gardens tampa.
I like both :))
Me too!
I don't have a favorite. My #1 is a hybrid. Great video!
Awesome, and thank you :)
I don't know anyone who likes one type of coaster over another. I think we all just enjoy an awesome ride. And I've gotten them on wood, steel, and wood/steel hybrids. :) The rides that are highest on my bucket list include both wood and steel coasters!
Wooden coasters will always have my heart, there's just something about them. They have a certain ride character, sight, and even smell to them. A woodie that was built well in the first place and maintained can run great for years and years which the smaller parks especially continue to prove to the public. Another thing I like is that a woodie proves that a coaster doesn't have to be enormous to provide a huge thrill. A woodie that's only 100 feet tall or even less is often more thrilling than a steel coaster of the same height and speed because of the feel. 50 mph on a woodie feels much faster than 50 mph on a steel coaster.
Don't get me wrong, I love steel coasters and many of them out there are some of my favorites. I would say you just can't compare wood and steel coasters, they're meant to provide completely different rides.
I definitely agree, there's just something different about wooden coasters that steel ones don't have :)
I love chaos and intense rides, so naturally I prefer wooden rides
Keep up the great content harry and zoe / coaster bot team 😁 love your content and your amazing merch 🤗
Thanks Tom that means a lot :)
That 20-40 year life span terrifies me. Imagine a U.K without Nemesis and the Big One? I know people said that about the Corkscrew, but seeing the end of the country's first Great Coaster War would be grounds for the declaration of a national holiday.
Quite a few of the steel roller coasters at Blackpool are 40 years old now. But yes, the world is going to be a different place without Nemesis or the Big One!
RMC be like: Inversions on woodies, throw in a launch on a Woodie, have both Steel and wood, and decide to do one rail. I really want to know what goes on in alan shilke's mind.
What ride is that at 7:27 ??
Wildfire at Kolmarden in Sweden :)
Wooden roller coasters are way more thrilling imo. I used to be afraid of roller coaster because all I rode were wooden. The first steel roller coaster I rode at the end I thought "is that it". It.was so lackluster.
You should actually do a wood versus steel preference poll. I’m pretty sure steel would win, but I’d be interested to see the percentages.
I love both but definitely tend to love woodies most.
That would be interesting, we might have to do this on social media!
I can't decide, RMC does both :(
Brilliant informative video as always, Great job!
Thanks Dan, it means a lot :)
@@coasterbot what's your preferred type of the two? I personally love steel coasters! The twisted layouts full of high speeds and inversions create such an enjoyable and insane experience! I'm glad I could give you some feedback for your excellent videos. 👍😀
wood or steel:
rmc:yes
Of course the wood vs steel (vs hybrid) question is just for fun and there is no straightforward answer. I think parks need both. When a steel coaster becomes rough it doesn't mean it feels like a wooden coaster. It just means that it gives you a headache. And depending on the restraints it may also pound on you uncomfortably. So you can't really mimic wooden coasters by just having steel coasters that are rough. There are some very smooth wooden coasters that still have the out of control feeling so they don't feel like steel coasters.
Conversely, there are many things that wooden coasters just can't do. And steel has added a greater variety than what you see from wood. And while there are some super smooth wooden coasters, most are at least a little rough and many are painfully rough.
A park with only steel would be missing out on the fun of wood. A park with only wood would miss out on variety and would probably end up being a park that guarantees you a headache.
Wise words!
I rode on the only wooden rollor coaster with an intversion. It's also the bigest in Europe. The same park are making a crazy steel coaster soon.
it's in tayto park. the only theme park in ireland
Tayto parks looks like an interesting one for sure! It seems they're hoping to expand in the future :)
Is it possible to make a wooden inverted coaster?
Google 'Son of Beast' ... it didn't turn out so good! But then RMC conversions which are steel / wood hybrids have inversions and are absolutely mad.
@@nitefly99 No I ment like a wooden raptor, or a wooden banshee, or a wooden afterburn.
@@gmoney2734 there was one wooden inverted coaster very very very long ago, in the 1910s. It was basically a lift hill and then a downward spiral around a tower. Also, it was suspended (so the cars swung) and not inverted
A real inverted coaster that is from wood doesn't exist.
@@sheeple04 You're right! I do remember hearing that. Thanks for letting me know man.
Great Video.
Thank you!
The thing about some wood roller coasters for me is that I am crushed against by seat and have a weird feeling umm down there
The only thing that really matters o me about a ride is its smoothness. If it doesn't give me a pounding headache and make me feel like I'm in a blender, it's good to me.
Gravity Group: Sorry what did you say about wooden coasters not having inversions?
Loads of Liseberg footage this time, which I quite like :)
That's because Liseberg is awesome ;)
Thank god GCI is still around
Nice 👍
0:56 "Flug der Dämonen" Heide Park in Germany. I LOVE this Ride
It's a great ride! :)
4th - 90's style steel ("we have THIS many inversions!!!"). Dragon Khan style rides feel super dated now.
3rd - wooded coasters (for out of control lulz)
2nd - modern steel non-inverting hypercoasters+ (for zomg speedz)
1st - RMC conversions (they will eat your soul - twice)
Finally occurred to me that an advantage to wood would be for timid customers. Realized the wooden always have a visible support while you’re in the train. Steel don’t need all that structure so it’s almost invisible from the train. Much more intimidating for timid passengers.
Wooden coaster/hybrids for the win! Bring me that airtime!
i really appreciate that you use lots of uk / european coasters for footage in your videos, it gets so tiring seeing the same american coasters over and over in every other video
Well to be honest I use footage of the rides I've recorded footage of. Obviously being from the UK that's most UK and European footage :)
That was very useful thanks
No problem, thanks for watching :)
For 80 years no one has ever ever referred to Coney Island's Cyclone as a "Hybrid". It is arguably the most famous "wooden" and iconic classic coaster in the world. The supports are made of STEEL! Its not alone. RMC came along and INVENTED a "marketing term" to stand for "let's rip off these old wooded rails and stick our new I-Box steel ones on top of the old wooden support structure to spruce up this old woodie--looks weird so we'll call it a HYBRID."
An RMC coaster is a STEEL coaster. They are thrilling and fantastic. However...
A proper woodie is actually giant sculpture meant to be RIDDEN, as in horseback riding. In the 60's we kids weren't stapled to the seats. We used the safety bar to maneuver our ride experience and control the amount of airtime we wanted. The word "smoothness" wasn't even in our vocabulary! Today's restraints all but destroy an authentic wood coaster ride. Today's snowflakes would saw their horses' legs off and RMC them.
I love horror movies and comedies. I love steel...wood has a special fascination for me though.
I didn't realise Coney Island cyclone was a hybrid coaster, that's really interesting to know. I think the term is a new one but these rides are different to their all wood and all steel counterparts and it's best to give them different terminology
@@coasterbot The problem is that the US industry classifies coasters in their own specific way and with the public it can vary..this can lead to confusion. I've been trying to investigate the matter, and have not found any evidence that the material used for the supports has any bearing on how a coaster ride "feels". Track type which determines train type etc. seems to be the biggest determining factor in rider's preferences. I love having this discussion and thanks for a great channel.
youve been comparing coaster manufactuerers but i cant seem to find one on arrow dynamics or that italian one pinfari or the asian manufactuer that made do do dompa
You're right, we haven't covered those manufacturers yet, but do hope to in the future :)
Wood, and hybrid. Except I do like the Intamin blitz model
I use to hate wooden roller coasters because from my experience or at least from what I remember most of them were rough and I just thought that was an inherent quality of them then I realized that steel coasters can also be rough as well and that a wooden coaster is one of my favorite roller coasters
On a poorly built, and/or maintained wooden coaster, i don't at all care to be shaken around like a can of paint. Nothing else will so quickly give me a pounding headache, ruining my day, as the shaking, jolting, jackhammer-ing of a bad wooden coaster. So, while I would profess to liking steel coasters better, I must admit that I have not yet been on a Rocky Mountain Construction hybrid coaster, and very much so look forward to doing so.
Great vid, thanks for the upload!
RMCs ride like Steel coasters, so I'm sure you'll enjoy them! Thanks for watching :)
When is the episode on the Matterhorn Bobsleds going to come out??? It was the first steel roller coaster, soooo... just saying. But all the same, love your videos👍
It wasn't the first steel roller coaster, or the first steel roller coaster to feature tubular track. But who knows, maybe one day we'll dive into the history books and explore the Matterhorn Bobsleds. ;)
Speed no limits has concrete inside the track to amplify the sound
Are their already magnetic roller coasters?
By magnetic do you mean magnets that levitate the train? If so, no, they haven't been made
@@coasterbot Yes. You could make an awesome ride using electromagnetic energy. Costly but awesome. You can really have a gliding feeling and also boost the ride on any point you choose.
I like all kinds of coasters, both wood, steel & hybrid- but I would probably say wood for its nostalgia factor. Take The Beast from this video, my favorite coaster and first "big" coaster- just has that grease smell on the chain in the hot sun, and that raw wild almost out of control feel. Then how the ride changes on weather, it's much more of a living thing than a steel coaster that provides the same ride every time
You left out one of the biggest differences: wheels. Most wood coasters have steel wheels running on steel strips, giving them far lower friction and sense they could keep going forever. RMC conversions have rubber treads, so they have to raise the lift and speed and still finish with wicked little hills since they're going so slow. Some large wood coasters such as El Toro also use rubber tread, but as wood coasters that size otherwise tend to be failures, they get a pass and can still be "wood" coasters instead of "rubber" coasters ....
That's interesting, I forgot about wheel compounds (they don't come up in discussion very much). As you said that's definitely one of the reasons wooden coasters carry their speed!
I am clueless as to how many people adore wooden coasters way over steel. I guess it's just a preference, but I like my rides smooth, I don't want bruised hips and shoulders or neckpain (yes some steel coasters may give you that as well). But overall, most wooden coasters I've ridden are too forceful, in a bad way. That and (in my opinion) steel coasters can have way more variety. To each their own, I guess. I do enjoy hybrids but I would say that rather classifies as steel instead of wooden.
Steel coasters definitely offer more variety. Not all wooden roller coasters hurt though, you've just got to find the good ones!
I saw Wicker Man like 5 times
Because it's a quality coaster!
Haven’t ridden a RMC, can’t how awesome it must be
I could go on forever with details, re entire life story riding coasters, But for now I'll just sum it up by saying if the stats are the same then wooden is better, but if one is blind to the stats, then perhaps steel is better. My two favourite wooden coasters I've ridden are Coaster at Playland and Ghostrider at Knott's berry Farm , but my two favourite metal coasters I've ridden are Millennium Force and Steel Vengeance. But what I'm saying isn't fair considering I've never ridden an Intamin wooden prefab or The Voyage. However: then again again I've never ridden a B&M hyper oversized, undersized or actually in between ( with a drop between between 200' and 300') You've got the best questions! I only wish I could give you better answers.
There aren't ever easy answers to my questions, that's the point! It's your opinion and sometimes you don't have a preference, but enjoy each experience for it's different qualities.
@@coasterbot fair enough
Steel: are you f*cking kidding me right now!
What I would prefer? Both, if it's a good ride.
To me the visual aspect is one key difference...if you compare Colossos at Heide Park with EGF they are about the same height but Colossos just looks a lot more intimidating and massive.
I definitely agree!
I would like to see you do a new series called Coaster Bombs. This will be about failed coasters like Drachen Fire and Batman and Robin: The Chiller.
I mean technically What Is (or when it's about defunct coasters, What Was) is exactly that series. He has covered some defunct coasters.
This is a great suggestion, I'll note it down, thank you :)
*RMC slowing about to breach the argument door.*
Kind of a nitpick here but I love how the Great White wood picture in the thumbnail has steel supports
Shuush, don't tell anyone! It looks so wooden ;)
Video : wood vs steel
My sleep deprived brain : wsteel coaster sounds pretty cool.
Hell yeah
COASTER BOT:wooden coasters cant be built as high as steel
Planet coaster: Watch me
This is finna sound super cheesy, but I don’t think it matters which one is better, just enjoy it as it is
Wise words!
Wood=Airtime
Steel=Intensity
Steel and Wood=Airtime and Intensity
I have only roden like 2 family costars whizzer and viper at six flags great America both great rides about the same height built around the same time and I LOVE both so I dont really have a preference both are good
I think through all these videos, which are great by the way, I now have like 10 rides on the Smiler.
Awesome to hear! The smiler is a great roller coaster :)
I’m not a big fan of classic wood coasters, but I think every park needs at least 1.