John Lennox addresses his debate with Richard Dawkins- Grasping the Nettle 2018

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  • @vamingxiong4376
    @vamingxiong4376 2 года назад +1

    I could probably listen to this man lecture all day, very thought provoking.

  • @rep3e4
    @rep3e4 2 года назад +5

    Lennox is brilliant

    • @suatustel746
      @suatustel746 2 года назад +1

      I don't think so on the contrary he's a Cretin!!!!!

  • @bluegtturbo
    @bluegtturbo 3 года назад +7

    'So ye see ladies and gentlemen....' 😂

  • @endtimeherald5755
    @endtimeherald5755 2 года назад +5

    ive got to say that most of the comments below are absolutely pathetic....to attack a man of faith of Lennox's calibre in the cowardly way that so many on this page have, shows the pathetic nature of so many of the world's deluded atheists...they wouldn't have the guts to enter into a debate with someone of Lennox's ilk, so they take the cowards way out and take cheap shots at him through a virtually invisible forum...

    • @johnhammond6423
      @johnhammond6423 2 года назад +1

      _'they take the cowards way out and take cheap shots at him through a virtually invisible forum'_
      It seems to me you are doing the same thing against those of us that think that John Lenox is talking nonsense.
      _'they wouldn't have the guts to enter into a debate with someone of Lennox's ilk'_
      But they have and some have shown him to be the the buffoon that he is.

    • @endtimeherald5755
      @endtimeherald5755 2 года назад

      @@johnhammond6423 not at all...what i'm saying is that anyone can sit back and take what i've called cheap shots at someone who isn't there to address what's being said about him...Lennox is a far more intelligent human being than those people who are saying all those terrible things about him, and those people wouldn't have the guts to enter into a public debate with him, because just like richard dawkins, they would be left looking like fools...

  • @tiffanymagee2700
    @tiffanymagee2700 2 года назад +2

    Brilliant man with a passion for God. I have learned much about how to interact with others who don't know God. I am truly encouraged!!

    • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
      @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 2 года назад +1

      What about the people who do understand god and think its nonsense? He nor you wouldn't have an answer for that. Read 'atheistic' papers (otherwise known as science).

    • @robmarshall956
      @robmarshall956 2 года назад

      @@candyquahogmarshmallow8257 what people are you talking about exactly.

    • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
      @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 2 года назад +1

      @@robmarshall956 most atheists tbh - hence the atheism.

    • @robmarshall956
      @robmarshall956 2 года назад

      @@candyquahogmarshmallow8257 are you a atheist ?

    • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
      @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 2 года назад +1

      @@robmarshall956 yes. I have looked at the purported evidence for a god (any god) and have not been convinced. I simply don't feel compelled to accept it (believe it).

  • @josepholugbami794
    @josepholugbami794 3 года назад +10

    Prof John Lennox again has shown that our faith can be shown to be rational

    • @johnelliott5859
      @johnelliott5859 2 года назад +5

      A deeper dive will show it as irrational. It may be rational to argue that there must be a creator to explain our lack of knowledge in how the universe and life on Earth began. (I would argue it is just as rational to believe there is no creator since neither can be proven) But, it isn't rational that the god of the bible is that creator. In fact, from the random nature of disease, floods, famine and other natural disasters, it would seem this creator god is either capricious or uncaring.

    • @8fot
      @8fot 2 года назад

      Well, no.

    • @ZER0--
      @ZER0-- 2 года назад

      Faith means believing in something with no evidence. That is not rational.

    • @robmarshall956
      @robmarshall956 2 года назад

      @@johnelliott5859 Sickness is one manifestation of the two broad types of evil-moral and natural. Moral evil is man’s inhumanity to man. Natural evil is composed of things like natural disasters and physical sickness. Evil itself is a perversion or corruption of something that was originally good, but is now missing something. In the case of sickness, illness is a state where good health is missing. The Greek word for evil, ponerous, actually implies a malignancy, something that is corrupting a good and healthy state of being.
      When Adam sinned, he condemned all of humanity to suffer the consequences of that sin, one of which is sickness. Romans 8:20-22 says, “For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope that the creation itself will be liberated from its bondage to decay and brought into the glorious freedom of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.” God-the “one who subjected” the creation to frustration following the Fall-has a plan to eventually liberate creation from its bondage to sin, just as He liberates us from that bondage through Christ.
      Until that day, God uses sickness and other evils to bring about His sovereign purpose, to glorify Himself, and to exalt His holy name. At times, He miraculously heals sickness. Jesus went through Israel healing all manner of sickness and disease (Matthew 4:23) and even raised Lazurus from the dead after illness killed him. At other times, God uses sickness as a method of discipline or as a judgment against sin. King Uzziah in the Old Testament was struck with leprosy (2 Chronicles 26:19-20). Nebuchadnezzar was driven to madness by God until he came to understand that “the Most High rules in the affairs of men” (Daniel 4). Herod was struck down and eaten by worms because he took God’s glory upon himself (Acts 12:21-23). There is even at least one case where God allowed disease-blindness-not as punishment for sin, but to reveal Himself and His mighty works through that blindness (John 9:1-3).
      When illness does come, it may not be the result of God’s direct intervention in our lives, but is rather the result of the fallen world, fallen bodies, and poor health and lifestyle choices. And although there are scriptural indicators that God wants us to be in good health, (3 John 2), all sickness and disease are allowed by Him for His purposes, whether we understand them or not.
      Sickness is certainly the result of the fall of man into sin, but God is very much in control, and He does indeed determine how far evil can go (just as He did with Satan and Job’s trials-Satan was not allowed to exceed those boundaries). He tells us He is all-powerful over fifty times in the Bible, and it is amazing to see how His sovereignty unites with the choices we make (both bad and good) to work out His perfect plan (Romans 8:28). Of course it’s not rational to your wee brain though.

    • @johnelliott5859
      @johnelliott5859 2 года назад

      @@robmarshall956 so good created us to be sick. Illness is a part of every living thing including plants.

  • @TruthandLoveTogether
    @TruthandLoveTogether 2 года назад +1

    At least Dawkins accepted that Jesus existed in time and space. Why would he not say why believing in the resurrection of Jesus is petty? He could not disprove the existence of God, and yet, he still said that His existence is improbable as his science is. So, why rely on an improbable science while hoping that it would be certain someday when there is a Bible that offers certainty? As the Lord empowers me, I would rather continue seeking understanding from sure Christianity rather than a constantly evolving and improbable myth.

  • @stevenwiederholt7000
    @stevenwiederholt7000 3 года назад +6

    One thing I have noticed over the years is on anything like a level playing field our Materialist friends more often than not do not come off looking good. The phrase that comes to mind is "They got their ass handed to them. Part of this comes from the fact They (Materialist) don't know What Believers Really say and Why they say it. All they know is what other non believers say about Believers.

  • @patrickedgington5827
    @patrickedgington5827 3 года назад +4

    Amen in fact I wrote a comment to Frank making exactly that argument but I would like to take it further than you have.
    Sure, we could trust as many of us do in what we believe. That we could and as Christians do have sound arguments for those beliefs, but I would still not call that biblical faith and say it falls short of faith that can save you.
    Let’s test the claims of Christianity what do they actually say about God about Yashua?
    The first thing is that God is real and personal. One of the arguments to suggest this is true is made by Dr. William Lain Craig. He said the universe had a beginning and that implies a choice to begin. Only he argues a personal intelligent being can choose.
    Next that God through the word so we have the Father and Yashua created everything. This is an act of unimaginable power and authority over that creation.
    It also demonstrates His wisdom.
    The last thing every Christian is sure about concerning God is that He loves us, Yashua spoke of Him as a father and of us as His children.
    There are multiple passages in scripture describing each of these aspects of the Christian God.
    So, I want to ask the question when it comes to faith based in evidence any of us should anticipate from such a God?
    Paul tells us in Romans that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God.
    For anyone that cares that is an English version or translation of the Greek text which Paul recorded and it is not a very good translation.
    To have faith in God is to know God. An argument can convince you of Gods existence but it cant help you know Him. It can reveal perhaps attributes, help you to know about Him but not know Him. The good news naturally if this God described by Christians is real then there is nothing stopping Him from dropping by for a chat.
    So it is perfectly reasonable to expect you can and will get to know Him just as you would you natural Father.
    That was the God Paul knew and writes about, and David and Peter and Moses and Abraham, and every other person you have ever read the testimony of in scripture.
    But today people think hearing from God is almost preposterous; certainly unusual. I would say those people have never heard from God. So again, I ask why?
    Back to Romans 10:17 any that can read this comment can goggle the Greek text to discover Paul used the term Rhema. The written word we have that we refer to as the word of God could not be called Rhema it is Logos. Rhema is a spoken word, only a spoken word, just the kind of communication one would expect to receive from a Person can be said to be Rhema in Greek.
    The text should read Therefore faith in God comes from encountering Him and personally hearing His voice.
    If your view of God has that being too difficult a thing to expect then I don’t see how that god your god created anything.
    No one should ever look to God for proof in the form of an encounter. Yashua said do not put the Lord your God to the test, but every child should expect to hear from Him as a father.
    Hebrews 12:6-8
    For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
    But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
    How if you have never heard Him can you say he has chastened you?

  • @arulsammymankondar30
    @arulsammymankondar30 2 года назад

    According to Max Muller, the great German Indologist, Darwin was a theist:
    " Darwin himself went so far as to maintain most distinctly that his system of nature required a Creator who breathed life into it in the beginning , and even those Darwinians who look upon this admission of Darwin's as a mere weakness of the moment, would strongly object to be called irreligious or atheists " ( page 427).
    Citation:
    Muller, Max; The Six Systems of Indian Philosophy, Longmans, Green, and Co., New York, 1899. Print.

  • @janklaas6885
    @janklaas6885 2 года назад

    🇺🇳39:03
    mind is the expression of the soul.
    My definition of soul is the "fusion of thought&feelings"

  • @ZER0--
    @ZER0-- 2 года назад +1

    The older I get the more and more religion seems absolutely ridiculous to me. I have as much belief in death being the same state as before birth. I can't be dishonest with myself and just have faith. I've been thinking about the human condition and what it's all about, for all my life and know that I won't find and answer, but I'm not going to take an easy root and go for god. Just because know one know how the universe started doesn't mean you can say it was a god. That is very closed minded and not based on any evidence. Maybe I haven't tried hard enough to believe.

    • @robmarshall956
      @robmarshall956 2 года назад

      What exactly do you think Christianity is ?

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    @thetruthaboutscienceandgod6921 2 года назад

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  • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
    @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 2 года назад +2

    This guy is sad, particularly as science is advancing, he seems to be desperately fighting a losing battle.

    • @shamwari4473
      @shamwari4473 2 года назад

      Is science advancing, or is it our understanding of science is advancing?

    • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
      @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 2 года назад +1

      @@shamwari4473 those are not mutually exclusive

    • @robmarshall956
      @robmarshall956 2 года назад +2

      @@candyquahogmarshmallow8257 science actually points to the truth of Gods word.

    • @candyquahogmarshmallow8257
      @candyquahogmarshmallow8257 2 года назад +1

      @@robmarshall956 😂😂😂 classic

    • @josephmaxwell5033
      @josephmaxwell5033 2 года назад

      Utter rubbish, worthy of nothing but contempt.

  • @garyavey1822
    @garyavey1822 3 года назад +2

    John Jesus is NOT God he is a god the Son of God Almighty and he died and Almighty God Jehovah raised him up 1 Corinthians 15:40-50) And there are heavenly bodies and earthly bodies; but the glory of the heavenly bodies is one sort, and that of the earthly bodies is a different sort. 41 The glory of the sun is one sort, and the glory of the moon is another, and the glory of the stars is another; in fact, one star differs from another star in glory. 42 So it is with the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised up in incorruption. 43 It is sown in dishonor; it is raised up in glory. It is sown in weakness; it is raised up in power. 44 It is sown a physical body; it is raised up a spiritual body. If there is a physical body, there is also a spiritual one. 45 So it is written: “The first man Adam became a living person.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. 46 However, what is spiritual is not first. What is physical is first, and afterward what is spiritual. 47 The first man is from the earth and made of dust; the second man is from heaven. 48 Like the one made of dust, so too are those made of dust; and like the heavenly one, so too are those who are heavenly. 49 And just as we have borne the image of the one made of dust, we will bear also the image of the heavenly one. 50 But I tell you this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
    only those in the first resurrection go to heaven Revelation 20:6 ) Happy and holy is anyone having part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no authority, but they will be priests of God and of the Christ, and they will rule as kings with him for the 1,000 years.
    This is the 144,000 who gain immortal life which Christ did not have until he was resurrected 1 Corinthians 15:53,54 ) For this which is corruptible must put on incorruption, and this which is mortal must put on immortality. 54 But when this which is corruptible puts on incorruption and this which is mortal puts on immortality, then the saying that is written will take place: “Death is swallowed up forever.”
    That is separate from the general resurrection on earth John 5:28,29 ) Do not be amazed at this, for the hour is coming in which all those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice 29 and come out, those who did good things to a resurrection of life, and those who practiced vile things to a resurrection of judgment.
    They will be judged on what they do in their resurrected life on earth during the thousand year reign of Christ and the 144,000 anointed sons of God.

    • @HelloMrBeeno
      @HelloMrBeeno 3 года назад +2

      That is a heresy long debated. Christ is indeed God incarnate, the second person of the Holy Trinity. You are obviously a Jehovah’s Witness and rely upon poorly interpreted Greek.

    • @wilhelmlorenz5852
      @wilhelmlorenz5852 3 года назад

      👉🙏🏻 I ALSO THINK 🤔 THAT JESUS IS GOD'S SON 🙏🏻✨🔆👈🏼👉 I HAVE READ THE BIBLE TWO DIFFERENT VERSIONS OF THE BIBLE ✨👈🏽❤️👉 I PRAY 🙏🏻 TO GOD THROUGH JESUS CHRIST 🙏🏻❤️ THE SON OF GOD 👈🏼🙏🏻✨👉INSTEAD OF PRIESTS HERE ON THE EARTH 🌎🌍 WE HAVE JESUS WHO DIED FOR OUR SINS!🙏🏻👈🏼👉HE WAS RAISED 🙌🤚🙌 TO LIFE BY GOD HIS FATHER AND SITS AT THE RIGHT HAND ✋ OF GOD THE FATHER AND SPEAKS FOR US ALL TO HIS FATHER. 👉IN JESUS CHRIST HOLY NAME I HUMBLY PRAY ASKING FOR UNDERSTANDING OF HIS WORD THE BIBLE WHICH HE GAVE US ALL TO UNDERSTAND THE WAY!!!ALSO GOD HAS GIVEN US EVERYTHING THAT IS ALL AROUND US,IN THE HEAVENS 🙏🏻👈🏼👉 ON THE EARTH AND IN THE 🌊💦🌊 WHICH DECLARE HIS GLORY... 👈🏼🙏🏻✨❤️☝️👉IN JESUS HOLY NAME I HUMBLY PRAY FOR ALL OF US ☝️👈🏼👉❤️ AMEN ❤️👈🏽

    • @garyavey1822
      @garyavey1822 3 года назад

      @@wilhelmlorenz5852 You are right all translations say that Jesus is Gods Son only apostates teach that he is equal with God Jehovah even after the thousand year reign of Christ he will subject himself to God 1 Corinthians 15:27,28 ) For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.

    • @garyavey1822
      @garyavey1822 3 года назад

      @@HelloMrBeeno All translations say that Jesus is the Son of God and is subject to Jehovah even after the thousand year reign of Christ 1Corinthians 15:27,28 ) For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. 28 But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone.
      Look up Psalm 110:1 And tell me which lord is speaking to which Lord

    • @athonyhiggins3117
      @athonyhiggins3117 2 года назад

      Rubbish get home