Great video, really informative and useful Just one question, do the extra bits of paracord to stake out that one end come with the tent, or do I have to get those separately?
The tent will come with enough cord to stake it out just about anywhere- I added to small loops just to be able to get it to stake in particularly awkward areas ! you can stretch to around a tree or rocks where you can't get a stake into the ground for example-
Love your tent it is so easy to set up nice review too for a year of use it still looking good. Nice buy my friend. New friend here see you around full watched
Yup 👍. Thanks for the vid. I’ve been trying to decide between the salt creek and this one. I was worried about the semi free standing but you cleared that up for me. Thank you sir.
Hi Doug! Looks a really great quality tent👍 With our rainy climate over here, I do prefer a tent where you can pitch the rain fly and inner tent together, but other than that I really like the look of it. Great review! Catch you soon👍
I've seen people say it's not really a 3 person, but what about 2 adults and an 8 year old? All of our sleeping pads combined are 60" across at the head, and this tent claims to be 66" so I was hoping that'd work fine
Should work just fine w a child. I definitely wouldn’t put 3 adults in there though ! I’m still very happy w this tent. Make sure to dry it out if you pack it up wet and I’ve set it up on a lot of different surfaces w no problems. Happy trails
I haven’t had an issue in windy conditions but I’ve always been able to stake it out securely. I could definitely see really high winds being a problem in loose soil or sand where something like the BA copper spur would do better. I also put the head end w it’s more solid back wall against the wind if it’s gusting. If you’re going to be really exposed and are expecting sustained high winds a free standing tent like the copper spur may be a better choice but I’m really happy w this one - just had it out in the snow ( some wind ) and it did great - some snow did settle in the panels on top and I had to knock it off but kept me dry and out of the wind at least. Thanks for checking it out
Hi and thanks for checking it out. The key w this one is proper tension. I have been in plenty of rain and high condensation situations w this and have never woken up w water inside. I use a footprint so the floor is generally dry. The rain guard over the zippers will get stuck in the zipper when it’s wet and that’s a bit of a pain but I just hold the material as I’m opening and closing. If the tension is too low the water can pool at the top panels - this is easily remedied by tightening up your guylines. The rain fly does a good job but gets heavier when really wet and it takes awhile to dry out. Not perfect but still very happy with this one !
@@dougcaye7786 Thats exactly what I wanted to hear. Going to stick to your advices & get the footprint too. Guess I‘m gonna be as happy with the tent as you are. Thank you for your time & keep on the good work!
Thin floor so you have to carry a footprint, but then there goes the ultralite. Factory footprint adds another 7 oz. Gotta get somethings with a 30D (or at least 20D) floor so you can skip the footprint. The materials that they make these ultralite dome tents out of is just too thin and fragile. Hard to find lightweight and rugged. I think TarpTent is the best balance between the two.
Thanks for taking a look - a the tarp tents look cool 😎 I dig em - few extra ounces doesn’t bother me though - I use this for a lot of things - kitchen tarp- close “doors” on the shelters we have in PA - and helps a lot keeping the floor dry when I camp in snow - Check out @jupiterhikes for the serious UL stuff - he has a great channel. Thanks again for taking a look - hike on ;) -
I've been using tents with light floors without any footprint for years. It's not an issue as it's takes 5 minutes to clear the ground of anything that might puncture the floor. Good practice to do that anyway. We've been using our Tiger Wall UL3 for a year now here in the Welsh mountains without a footprint.
@@erintoby2605 this was one I cut to match the underside of the tent. It was probably an 8x8 off the shelf. I like it for camping on rougher surfaces - pine needles and snow.
Hi Scott. I wanted to get this full review out. Ive had the footage for awhile and looking forward to a couple nights in WV pretty soon. Hope all is well w you
Your advice is correct but one has to point out the idiocy of people demanding these ever lighter tents that have such flimsy floors that in many situations it isn't even safe to pitch them anymore without an additional footprint. So you "save" that weight and then add it back on again in the form of additional gear. That makes no sense, I'd avoid tents without proper floors designed to survive normal regular use.
I've been using tents with light floors without any footprint for years. It's not an issue as it's takes 5 minutes to clear the ground of anything that might puncture the floor. Good practice to do that anyway. We've been using our Tiger Wall UL3 for a year now here in the Welsh mountains without a footprint.
it can definitely be done without one - i follow another RUclipsr backpacker who has thousands of miles on his w out a footprint. just my preference. a lot of pine trees in the areas I go and they can pierce the bottom pretty easily. also prefer the footprint or piece of tarp for my winter trips.
Using Tyvek literally adds like 1.9 ounces. If that's too much extra weight for saving an extra 2-3 lbs , I don't know what to tell you, Buddy. Ultralight tents are definitely made of thin materials, but that's the only way to save weight. These companies specialize in keeping us protected from the elements. They spend untold millions of dollars on R&D to ensure they're providing us with kit that will hold up in the exact elements we head into. With just a little bit of prep , attention while using them, and general maintenance, these thin materials will last for years. I was completely shocked the very first time I opened my first UL tent. I had obviously never seen tents anywhere near that thin. They've all held up and performed relatively perfectly , though!
Just got this guy for backcountry elk hunting!!
Great video, really informative and useful
Just one question, do the extra bits of paracord to stake out that one end come with the tent, or do I have to get those separately?
The tent will come with enough cord to stake it out just about anywhere- I added to small loops just to be able to get it to stake in particularly awkward areas ! you can stretch to around a tree or rocks where you can't get a stake into the ground for example-
@@dougcaye7786 ok, thank you for the clarifications
New friend here. We met on Dave’s live. You made that look easy. I bet ill learn alot here. Thanks for sharing this.
I do a lot of cooking on my trip vids but nothing like you ! nice to meet you too- and Im already enjoying your channel - take care
Love your tent it is so easy to set up nice review too for a year of use it still looking good. Nice buy my friend. New friend here see you around full watched
Thank you for checking it out. Just drying it out from a backpacking trip now :)
Yup 👍. Thanks for the vid. I’ve been trying to decide between the salt creek and this one. I was worried about the semi free standing but you cleared that up for me. Thank you sir.
Thanks Vic - There are so many good tents out there now. I'm really happy w this one though.
Hi Doug! Looks a really great quality tent👍 With our rainy climate over here, I do prefer a tent where you can pitch the rain fly and inner tent together, but other than that I really like the look of it. Great review! Catch you soon👍
Hi Des, Good to hear from you. Oh Yes! you want to set these up very quickly in the rain.:) preferably before !
Thank you. Just got mine.
Good helpful review, thanks!
Thank you. I’m still really happy with this one !
Doug, great review. Enjoying your content. Just discovered your channel, and subscribed!
Thanks for taking a look JD! I'm having a lot of fun doing these and I really appreciate the sub. Please stay in touch and happy trails !
Outstanding video
Thanks Dave ! Ive been happy with this one and I'll use it through the rest of the year. PS I plan on making pizzas on the next overnighter !
I’ll look forward to seeing the video
I've seen people say it's not really a 3 person, but what about 2 adults and an 8 year old? All of our sleeping pads combined are 60" across at the head, and this tent claims to be 66" so I was hoping that'd work fine
Should work just fine w a child. I definitely wouldn’t put 3 adults in there though ! I’m still very happy w this tent. Make sure to dry it out if you pack it up wet and I’ve set it up on a lot of different surfaces w no problems. Happy trails
How has it done in the wind for you? I’ve seen videos, where since it only has 3 pole structures that in some cases it’ll collapse in.
I haven’t had an issue in windy conditions but I’ve always been able to stake it out securely. I could definitely see really high winds being a problem in loose soil or sand where something like the BA copper spur would do better. I also put the head end w it’s more solid back wall against the wind if it’s gusting. If you’re going to be really exposed and are expecting sustained high winds a free standing tent like the copper spur may be a better choice but I’m really happy w this one - just had it out in the snow ( some wind ) and it did great - some snow did settle in the panels on top and I had to knock it off but kept me dry and out of the wind at least. Thanks for checking it out
Love your review! One thing that still makes me hesitate is the waterproofness. Did you experience heavy rain with this tent? Thank you for your work!
Hi and thanks for checking it out. The key w this one is proper tension. I have been in plenty of rain and high condensation situations w this and have never woken up w water inside. I use a footprint so the floor is generally dry. The rain guard over the zippers will get stuck in the zipper when it’s wet and that’s a bit of a pain but I just hold the material as I’m opening and closing. If the tension is too low the water can pool at the top panels - this is easily remedied by tightening up your guylines. The rain fly does a good job but gets heavier when really wet and it takes awhile to dry out. Not perfect but still very happy with this one !
@@dougcaye7786 Thats exactly what I wanted to hear. Going to stick to your advices & get the footprint too. Guess I‘m gonna be as happy with the tent as you are. Thank you for your time & keep on the good work!
I went the cheap route and just use a cut piece of tarp- but getting the factory footprint is probably a good idea. I hope you enjoy the tent !
Can you see into the compartment from the outside with the rain cover on? It looks slightly transparent to me
No - It does let the light in early though ! shouldn't be problem for you. thanks for taking a look.
@@dougcaye7786 thanks for the quick reply, buying this thanks to you. Subscribed :)
@@tbbb8439 I think You'll like it ! good luck out there
What about 1 adult your size and 2 kids? Ages 9 and 5. Would they fit?
I think you’d be ok for a night or two if you’re backpacking in somewhere. It’ll be a little tight but doable :)
Good idea
Thanks for taking a look ! ! :)
Thin floor so you have to carry a footprint, but then there goes the ultralite. Factory footprint adds another 7 oz. Gotta get somethings with a 30D (or at least 20D) floor so you can skip the footprint. The materials that they make these ultralite dome tents out of is just too thin and fragile. Hard to find lightweight and rugged. I think TarpTent is the best balance between the two.
Thanks for taking a look - a the tarp tents look cool 😎 I dig em - few extra ounces doesn’t bother me though - I use this for a lot of things - kitchen tarp- close “doors” on the shelters we have in PA - and helps a lot keeping the floor dry when I camp in snow - Check out @jupiterhikes for the serious UL stuff - he has a great channel. Thanks again for taking a look - hike on ;)
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I've been using tents with light floors without any footprint for years. It's not an issue as it's takes 5 minutes to clear the ground of anything that might puncture the floor. Good practice to do that anyway. We've been using our Tiger Wall UL3 for a year now here in the Welsh mountains without a footprint.
What size tarp do you use as the footprint?
@@erintoby2605 this was one I cut to match the underside of the tent. It was probably an 8x8 off the shelf. I like it for camping on rougher surfaces - pine needles and snow.
If I need that kind of footprint for a super light Big Agnes I can buy a top Hilleberg tent, a bit heaver but no footprint needed.
What's up Doug ?
Hi Scott. I wanted to get this full review out. Ive had the footage for awhile and looking forward to a couple nights in WV pretty soon. Hope all is well w you
Your advice is correct but one has to point out the idiocy of people demanding these ever lighter tents that have such flimsy floors that in many situations it isn't even safe to pitch them anymore without an additional footprint. So you "save" that weight and then add it back on again in the form of additional gear. That makes no sense, I'd avoid tents without proper floors designed to survive normal regular use.
I've been using tents with light floors without any footprint for years. It's not an issue as it's takes 5 minutes to clear the ground of anything that might puncture the floor. Good practice to do that anyway. We've been using our Tiger Wall UL3 for a year now here in the Welsh mountains without a footprint.
it can definitely be done without one - i follow another RUclipsr backpacker who has thousands of miles on his w out a footprint. just my preference. a lot of pine trees in the areas I go and they can pierce the bottom pretty easily. also prefer the footprint or piece of tarp for my winter trips.
Using Tyvek literally adds like 1.9 ounces. If that's too much extra weight for saving an extra 2-3 lbs , I don't know what to tell you, Buddy. Ultralight tents are definitely made of thin materials, but that's the only way to save weight. These companies specialize in keeping us protected from the elements. They spend untold millions of dollars on R&D to ensure they're providing us with kit that will hold up in the exact elements we head into. With just a little bit of prep , attention while using them, and general maintenance, these thin materials will last for years. I was completely shocked the very first time I opened my first UL tent. I had obviously never seen tents anywhere near that thin. They've all held up and performed relatively perfectly , though!