THE END OF THE BIGGEST MYSTERY IN KENGAN OMEGA

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  • @mysteriousweeb
    @mysteriousweeb  Год назад +16

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  • @jss2141
    @jss2141 Год назад +148

    The reason Gaoh Mukaku gave up on the Niko Style is because the WORM could now learn it from Six/Tiger Niko. So he went back to using the Gaoh Style since the WORM had no information on it because he never taught it to the Nikos.

    • @mavvynne444
      @mavvynne444 Год назад +8

      But the Worm doesn't know anything about Niko Style Ultimate Technique "Demonsbane"

    • @ness3984
      @ness3984 Год назад +25

      @@mavvynne444 Even though Demonsbane Is a big thing, its only a physical enhancer, so it would only enhance the niko style that all the students only know. which the worm is now aware of.

    • @mavvynne444
      @mavvynne444 Год назад +4

      @@ness3984 They kinda knows about it but they can't anticipate it when in battle because that technique is formless

    • @samumutka9236
      @samumutka9236 Год назад +3

      ​@@mavvynne444 they can if they use pre-initative.

    • @terashi3175
      @terashi3175 Год назад +7

      @@mavvynne444 Demonsbane was probably created by Ohma's Niko himself

  • @markomurisic1354
    @markomurisic1354 Год назад +16

    Ohma’s Niko aka 4 is a certified Goat

  • @nicoKado-Akocado
    @nicoKado-Akocado Год назад +48

    I was wondering how a monster like tiger Niko losses to Ohma's Niko, until I saw that Ohma's Niko is way above tiger Niko when they're young.

    • @JDWalker495
      @JDWalker495 Год назад +18

      Kuroki also said Ohma’s master was his equal

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Год назад +4

      I don't think Tiger Niko is that impressive so far, he didn't do anything significant against Muteba (and even if Muteba had a small derringer pistol we had seen Ohma's Niko deflect fullsize handgun bullets before), the same Muteba who admitedd he doesn't fight unless he liked his odds and tapped out against a pretty injured Wkatsuki in the KAT because of it.

    • @SSJBlueVegito
      @SSJBlueVegito Год назад +2

      @@leonardomarquesbelliniHow is Tiger Niko not that impressive when he one shotted Muteba and is a Top Officer of the worm who is said to be on par with Edward Wu?

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Год назад +2

      @@SSJBlueVegito because he still wasn't strong enough for Muteba to refuse go after him, when he did just that to a crippled and half-blind Wakatsuki?
      Or by being on the "same league" with Edward Wu that was unceremoniously killed by Raian? The same Edward Wu that is a perfect descendant of an inhumanly strong "demon" that still managed to die 4 times in the same day and then one more one week later?
      Neither Tiger Niko nor any of the big name bad guys has EVER actually accomplished anything meaningful in the story.

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Год назад +1

      @@SSJBlueVegito because he still wasn't strong enough for Muteba to refuse go after him, when he did just that to a crippled and half-blind Wakatsuki?
      Or by being on the "same league" with Edward Wu that was unceremoniously killed by Raian? The same Edward Wu that is a perfect descendant of an inhumanly strong "demon" that still managed to die 4 times in the same day and then one more one week later?
      Neither Tiger Niko nor any of the big name bad guys has EVER actually accomplished anything meaningful in the story.

  • @ChaosUndeadLegion
    @ChaosUndeadLegion Год назад +23

    It’s kinda cool that during the flashback the author was actually dropping little hints for us as to who the tiger niko actually was, like during his sparring with two where six was shown experimenting with the niko style techniques just like he did when he got older with the divine demon, formless and guihun or when he told gilbert wu that rikuko ward was terrible and in the flashback six was assigned to rikuko ward, yan literally said that rikuko ward meant ‘six’ worms

  • @ManOnTheMoon420
    @ManOnTheMoon420 Год назад +19

    Theory: Demons bane technique was created and meant to destroy the heart of Advance users, which is important since they rely on their heart pumping blood faster and hence its name, and considered that advance looks demon like with the red color it makes sense

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Год назад +1

      It's hard to speculate about that, those are not *actually* the names used in the original japanese, it's just that the Translation group Hokuto no Ken that later went official alongside Comikey were REALLY liberal with the technique names. The Katas from the Niko style for example aren't actually Fire, Adamantine, Water and Deflection, they're all supposed to be names derived from Indian mythology, which is the in-universe reason for Ohma to be called the "Ashura", which is a demonic figure from the same myths.

    • @brycebaggoo5388
      @brycebaggoo5388 10 месяцев назад

      ​@leonardomarquesbellini what are the actual names of the katas? I tried looking up the original Japanese name and even tried looking up their names in Hindu but they aren't much different to what the translation group said they are. I think if you look on the Fandom page of kengan ashura they're listed as Heavenly fire, Heavenly water, Flow control form and Adament form. So different but not really, I think it'd be really cool if they were a bit more Hindu in nature as it would fit the theme of Ohma's call sign. As it stands right now being nicknamed the Asura really doesn't mean much. I'm sure the Japanese audience understands the cultural connotation of that so it probably hits harder in their minds than in mine being a western fan who knows very little about East and South Asian mythology. But yeah leaning into that cultural label for the katas names in the English translation of the manga could've been so much more cool than it is currently.

  • @pyroboy417
    @pyroboy417 Год назад +15

    Im curious what ohma’s reaction will be to hearing that they didnt learn demons bane

  • @nevadarikuji8738
    @nevadarikuji8738 Год назад +27

    I knew the very moment that Six was Tiger Niko when he used flashing steel. Back in Ashura, there is a flashback where Tiger Niko used Flashing Steel against Ohma. My curiosity is how the hell did Four fight Six right after Four stopped rampaging Ohma? I wanna see how it happened like, Four is freaking OP.

    • @Enoxificatti
      @Enoxificatti Год назад +7

      Right? He did it without a break too! All of the fights Four had were with the intention to kill, which makes it way harder. They also most likely went all out right off the bat or at least used a decent percentage of their strength right from the start.

    • @leonardomarquesbellini
      @leonardomarquesbellini Год назад +3

      I'm honestly not even convinced Ohma's Niko is actually dead, everything we've seen of him and of Genzan painted them as pretty reasonable dudes that wouldn't go around killing willy-nilly even if they're capable of that. Would Genzan really kill someone for roughing up his student? I'm not sure. And would Niko go along with a death match even when he knew for a FACT that whole thing was a misunderstanding? Considering they both had ties to Kuroki it wouldn't surprise me if it ended up being the case that the two knew each other, or at least of each other, which makes the whole thing weirder.

    • @Cilent__
      @Cilent__ Месяц назад

      Four stopped Ohma fought Genzan, then Six came and killed him while he was weakened.

  • @t.l.4192
    @t.l.4192 Год назад +41

    The only loose end regarding the Nikos is if #3 is still alive or not. It'd be mighty bold of Tiger Niko to call himself "The Last Niko" while knowing full well that there's another Niko alive somewhere he failed to kill. Hopefully he didn't get killed offscreen if that's the case.
    P.S.: the nameless guide isn't Niko #3. He's a throwback character named Manji Sukekiyo from the prequel manga before Kengan called "Fist of The Seeker" who's responsible for taking down the Gato Yakuza family so I highly doubt it would be him. Joji and Kureishi are also throwback characters who were from Fist of the Seeker.

    • @thunderjellyfish3680
      @thunderjellyfish3680 Год назад +8

      Joji and Koga's uncle are the same character, you mean Kureishi: Cosmo's master

    • @t.l.4192
      @t.l.4192 Год назад +2

      @@thunderjellyfish3680Edited it correctly, idk why I get their names confused from time to time.

    • @AdultSupervision.
      @AdultSupervision. Год назад +2

      I think #3 pioneered Demonsbane and may have died teaching it to #4 at some point. May have used it or a version to wound #5...

    • @Purunga22222
      @Purunga22222 Год назад +1

      the nameless guide It is the third Niko has the same eyes I will look

    • @thunderjellyfish3680
      @thunderjellyfish3680 Год назад +2

      @@Purunga22222 Nameless is from Fist of the Seeker (same series where Joji and Kureishi came from which happened before Kengan Ashura), he can't be the 3rd Niko.

  • @AdultSupervision.
    @AdultSupervision. Год назад +5

    In order to learn Demonsbane you need to master the 4 katas and we have #3 who mastered the balance of the 4 katas left anaccounted for in Mukakus teachunt AND having wounded #5 in his arguably demonic form...hmm....

  • @Bitch_senpai
    @Bitch_senpai Год назад +9

    So gaoh might not even know demons bane.

  • @edfmed1080
    @edfmed1080 Год назад +16

    Honestly this backstory would have been better as a mini arc

    • @rbr1170
      @rbr1170 Год назад +3

      Yes! I don't mind the extension at all but Sandrovich seems focused on closing this story. Hopefull even if it ends we get a new one or at least some exploration on this subplot.

    • @Enoxificatti
      @Enoxificatti Год назад +2

      Sandrovich needs to do this!!!

    • @julianyuh3163
      @julianyuh3163 Год назад +3

      Yeah but retsudo and himuro think he’s keeping out lots of details

  • @aeep1999
    @aeep1999 Год назад +8

    Mukaku pulled a Luke skywalker (the last Jedi edition)

  • @commandcomedy1353
    @commandcomedy1353 Год назад +24

    I believe The Nameless Guide is Niko Tokita #3. Furthermore it was never stated that Mukaku Gaoh created the Possessing Spirit, although he did show awareness of the technique which does leave room for speculation. On the other hand it was stated Tiger Niko created the technique, but the evidence shown in this chapter might suggest otherwise which contradicts the past statement. However it was stated Mukaku Gaoh created Demonsbane there is a possibility of Ohma Niko #4 creating the technique or learning separate from his brother's. As far as we've seen only 1, 6, and 5 can use Possessing Spirit out of the 7 Niko's. Hopefully the next chapter answers all our questions.

  • @kalroy1230
    @kalroy1230 Год назад +14

    Literally no one on the subreddit was talking about part of the worms goal being to gain the niko style/secret technique

    • @Enoxificatti
      @Enoxificatti Год назад +2

      I was noticing that too. Feels good to see one comment here addressing this.

    • @Enoxificatti
      @Enoxificatti Год назад +4

      I wonder why The Worm was so into The Niko Style. Ohma has a lot more value to Six and The Worm than we think.

  • @GabrielCoutoArt
    @GabrielCoutoArt Год назад +9

    first time I find out who the killer is (other than in Among Us). While everyone was looking at 7 I was looking at 6 LMAO!
    I found the secret technique to be Possesing spirit very interesting (from what we understand), and also why Ohma's Niko doesn't like Advance.
    probably Demonsbane was created when Ohma's Niko went to ask Kuroki for help. And there seems to be something a bit poorly told in this story, it seems that something is missing... I think it can be better explained in the future..

    • @GabrielCoutoArt
      @GabrielCoutoArt Год назад +3

      like what happened to the 3? why did 5 hate mukaku (which doesn't make much sense since mukaku took care of him and the others)? and how did they join the worm?

    • @justinmcdonald2072
      @justinmcdonald2072 Год назад +3

      The part that is missing I suspect Makaku is holding back details because he does not trust Ohma or anyone here fully.

    • @GabrielCoutoArt
      @GabrielCoutoArt Год назад +1

      @@justinmcdonald2072 perhaps. Mukaku has lived many years in the inside, he has become quite cold and intelligent over time and knows how people behave there.

  • @sekijokes451
    @sekijokes451 Год назад +5

    Anyone else think that 4 may still be alive?
    4 went to Kuroki Gensai asking for help but we never find out what he needed from Kuroki.
    Plus the "duel" he had with Kiryu's master could've been staged since said master was a close friend of Kuroki's.
    May be the "help" he needed was to fake his death.
    Bit out there but who knows. The series already pulled it with Ohma after all.

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Год назад +1

      Doesn't make sense if it was faked since Ohma's Niko literally died. But who knows, I still doubt it

  • @charlessalama7103
    @charlessalama7103 Год назад +1

    i hope u reach ur 100k goal.. U are close 😄

  • @Ilovevidgames123
    @Ilovevidgames123 Год назад +2

    I think part of why Mukaku just gave up on the Niko style was because not only was the martial art itself exposed, so was the secret that there were multiple Nikos. The plan to build up a mythical figure in Tokita Niko undermined.

  • @AdultSupervision.
    @AdultSupervision. Год назад +2

    I think #3 created Demonsbane and 1. May have used it or an imperfect form on #5. 2. May have died passing it on to #4.

  • @thecornconquerer4947
    @thecornconquerer4947 Год назад +9

    One thing I'll say is we didn't see why Mukaku seems to hate the Connector specifically. He has all the reason to hate the Worm as a whole but so far in the flashback he hasn't mentioned the Connector by name or any other high-level worm members (at least I don't think so). Yeah it could just be that if he kills the Connector and breaks his cycle of reincarnation then the Worm itself is done for but the times he does mention the Connector it seems personal. Plus we have Retsudo and Himuro both saying Mukaku isn't lying but is omitting things, so maybe there's more to this than just this flashback.

    • @meldrickedwards1892
      @meldrickedwards1892 Год назад +2

      I'm guessing the connector is probably the one that convinced Six/Tiger Niko to betray Mukaku.
      That maybe the reason why Mukaku hates the connector the most.
      But it definitely just could just be a case of "Kill the top guy. And the rest will fall."

    • @Cross_A
      @Cross_A Год назад +1

      But Mukaku did say he was starting from the beggining, so he could probably talk about him later

  • @frankenstein1791
    @frankenstein1791 Год назад +5

    Number six is pretty obvious that he was the traitor all along you can see how he hold the knife with a blood intacting on it

    • @mike90susanoo84
      @mike90susanoo84 Год назад +2

      Number 1 was also holding a knife with blood intacted

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 Год назад +5

    Felt this was underwhelming. We barley got to actually meet any of the Niko’s. We should’ve had chapters of buildup giving them personalities, taking down worm members, some students failing to keep up and disappearing. Like obviously Tiger Niko killed them but that’s only assumed and we don’t see a reason for them to hate him so much. We also never see 5 and Ohma’s Niko fight which is a waste considering we never got to see Ohma’s Niko fight serious at all. They just had 5 die like that not really fights despite being one of the strongest .And the mystery of the traitor could’ve been dragged out or something. Gaoh just stops going after Tiger Niko due to a trap or something despite his strength and just randomly gives up.

  • @Thrillr
    @Thrillr Год назад

    Whoaaa 🤯

  • @nutmaster9541
    @nutmaster9541 Год назад +1

    Three looks like Long Min

  • @chrisholder8906
    @chrisholder8906 Год назад +1

    3 is the guide

  • @diogenes6868
    @diogenes6868 Год назад +1

    Are you there on kengan subreddit?

  • @ashura9643
    @ashura9643 Год назад

    Ohma's master create the demons bane after the incident on gakigahara Forrest Niko said well I'm not gonna give I'll never give up on the Niko style!!

  • @chaosdromanah8620
    @chaosdromanah8620 Год назад +12

    It's ashamed that Sandro didn't show the full potential of 7

    • @eon7577
      @eon7577 Год назад

      I think the author is gonna come back on that note, maybe we learn that 7 is the clone of someone and that someone is still around

    • @clownie1313
      @clownie1313 Год назад

      I mean what if Tiger Niko retrieve 7 body then clone it. Then it became The Connector

    • @eon7577
      @eon7577 Год назад

      @@clownie1313 that would be mad cool

  • @tizianomarangoni4627
    @tizianomarangoni4627 Год назад +2

    I know i was wrong on Tiger Niko that was Seven, but now i vaguely think that there is a correlation between deceised Seven Niko and Shen Wulong (not necessarily the same person). I don't think the author called Seven the strongest Niko for nothing if even Six the tiger couldn't killed him

    • @nikoladujic3157
      @nikoladujic3157 Год назад +3

      Maybe they cloned 7..you never know with worms and theyr shit..

  • @TooBluunt
    @TooBluunt Год назад +2

    Feel bad for those who haven’t watched this

  • @paytonholstad9261
    @paytonholstad9261 Год назад

    I think the tiger vessel is the person who gets the tiger niko’s modified niko style passed down to them

  • @dominusmusarilong7787
    @dominusmusarilong7787 Год назад

    I think Ohma Niko created Demonbanes with Kuroki help

  • @whitejester
    @whitejester 3 месяца назад

    The biggest upset was how the fuck did Six go from a Twink to THAT?!

  • @habilkjelberg9879
    @habilkjelberg9879 Год назад

    Ohmas niko created demonsbane with 3 because he said 3 got away so they probably went a second time to the forest and since 3 was balanced in all 4 katas he created it with ohmas niko and died while training for it

  • @killclair4594
    @killclair4594 Год назад

    They would introduce a knew character to kill him off screen.

  • @filipgregor7408
    @filipgregor7408 Год назад

    I think that tiger niko somehow awakened formless in that forest when he killed other nikos so he created that killing ritual for formless style. You know gaoh said that inside is like that big chamber for formless style ( i dont know the name 😒)

  • @historyking9984
    @historyking9984 Год назад

    we don’t know if the secret technique they learned in the forest was advance or if that’s something they already had. It likely wasn’t because Ohma didn’t learn advance that way.

  • @msbkaioken136
    @msbkaioken136 Год назад +2

    I feel quite a few of those ending questions have some conclusions we already can come to and be likely reasonable and accurate

  • @clerk2196-oz2no
    @clerk2196-oz2no Год назад

    Ohma's Niko didn't use advance because it would allow six to track him.

  • @omaralraisi2482
    @omaralraisi2482 Год назад

    But there is another secret technique of the Niko style called fallen demon used by kiryu setsuna

  • @iron-ham414
    @iron-ham414 Год назад +4

    What if Niko 3 was the worm who attacked ohma in the annihilation tournament when he was trying to recover ?

    • @assert7068
      @assert7068 Год назад +1

      Thats Ranjo Tiger Niko's student

  • @gregtitizian2760
    @gregtitizian2760 Год назад +3

    So we still don’t know what tiger vessel means

    • @Enoxificatti
      @Enoxificatti Год назад +8

      Maybe it's Six's own personal plan. It's easy to think that if Six ever gets a chance to betray The Worm, HE WILL.

    • @sakibmahmud3621
      @sakibmahmud3621 Год назад +2

      I think it is related to the Connector. Tiger's vessel might be the next connector.

    • @micaelcardozo8551
      @micaelcardozo8551 Год назад

      ​@@Enoxificatti tiger vessel es el plan del tigre niko, de hacerse con el cuerpo de ohma y traspasar su cerebro conciencia a ese cuerpo, asi tener el cuerpo de un superdotado en artes marciales+ los conosimientos y tecnicas que aprendio con los años

  • @iron-ham414
    @iron-ham414 Год назад +4

    Wheres Niko 3?!?

    • @rbr1170
      @rbr1170 Год назад +2

      Someone here already mentioned it, could be the nameless guide. His facial structure seems similar so I also think the same.

    • @t.l.4192
      @t.l.4192 Год назад +5

      ​​@@rbr1170 The nameless guide is a character from the prequel manga before Kengan called "Fist of the Seeker": so I highly doubt it.

    • @Enoxificatti
      @Enoxificatti Год назад +1

      ​​​@@rbr1170 Errr! Wrong. He's a character from the sequel to Kengan Ashura. It's called, "Fist of the Seeker."

    • @t.l.4192
      @t.l.4192 Год назад

      @@Enoxificatti It's a prequel to Kengan Ashura, not a sequel. In fact it takes place years before Ashura. The sequel to Ashura is Omega, you smooth-brained imbecile.
      The Gato Family being destroyed by the "Hidden Man" that was referenced in Omega takes place in The Fist of the Seeker PREQUEL manga, while in Omega they refer to the incident in PAST- tense. Read a Kengan reddit sub why don't you.

  • @josephperales887
    @josephperales887 Год назад

    I think nameless is number 3

  • @megakidz13
    @megakidz13 Год назад +3

    I think louhan is niko number 3 since he goes missing

  • @ringthebell5221
    @ringthebell5221 Год назад

    Comoso master is #3

  • @jayhommy6439
    @jayhommy6439 Год назад +2

    not first gang4

  • @justinmcdonald2072
    @justinmcdonald2072 Год назад +2

    I suspect Makaku is loose on the details because Ohma's likeness is an unknown to him, there is more to be resolved just knowing about the mountain is not enough to explain every development since.
    Louhan, I doubt is number 3 mainly due to Tiger Niko stating himself to be the last Niko, he is aware seemingly acquainted with Louhan in the present.

  • @alkannahcartwright4984
    @alkannahcartwright4984 Год назад

    What is the connector connecting may be he is the third niko an if its so its could be the reason the tiger niko want him dead

  • @yeamrmarak9758
    @yeamrmarak9758 Год назад

    Form where are u ?? giving this spoiling ratings

  • @Purunga22222
    @Purunga22222 Год назад

    Niko the teacher of ohma is alive!!!

  • @nikoladujic3157
    @nikoladujic3157 Год назад

    3 is luohan 🤔