BISCUIT OLIVA VS KAORU HANAYAMA IS WILD

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @mysteriousweeb
    @mysteriousweeb  9 месяцев назад +18

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    • @shadowhell8378
      @shadowhell8378 9 месяцев назад

      Shobun Ron isn't a kaiou he is a friend of kaku but not a kaiou both Shobun Ron and Kaku's son were added to have 5 strong fighters for China.

  • @jerensteinbear
    @jerensteinbear 9 месяцев назад +113

    Oliva was clearly just messing around in his fight against Ron. Up until getting jobbed to sukune the only person he'd ever fought hard against was baki.

    • @EliasMogos-x7s
      @EliasMogos-x7s 9 месяцев назад +10

      He destroyed sukuna after recovery

    • @weeabooslayer6465
      @weeabooslayer6465 8 месяцев назад +3

      I don't see how he was "clearly" messing around with Ron. Ron did very well and was holding his own and actually damaging Oliva.

    • @aydenbonnet9630
      @aydenbonnet9630 8 месяцев назад +5

      ​@weeabooslayer6465 To be fair, once he stopped holding back, and flexed his muscles for real he shattered Ron's entire hand when he tried to spear him

    • @michaelmayers3622
      @michaelmayers3622 8 месяцев назад

      Skuna was not at ful strength​@@EliasMogos-x7s

    • @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860
      @juliofranciscogomezstoppel1860 8 месяцев назад +4

      @@weeabooslayer6465 he was never in the offensive, he was merely reacting to him. The last time we saw him go all in attacking, the guy made an earthquake with Guevara's face.

  • @Tenderleaf
    @Tenderleaf 9 месяцев назад +60

    I think the Hanada thing is actually gonna help Hanayama, it showed him a glaring weakness in his attack, which he'll probably try to seal shut

    • @boxingdegenerate9077
      @boxingdegenerate9077 9 месяцев назад +20

      Yeah I get why people are surprised about Hanada getting the upper hand, but a series like Baki isn’t all power scaling, it’s loosely based off real fighting.
      No matter how strong Hanayama is, it makes sense a Jujutsu practitioner like Hanada who has good physical specs and technique would be able to counter a hilariously telegraphed straight.

    • @technodry3216
      @technodry3216 9 месяцев назад +1

      Hanayama with 4000 year old Chinese martial arts is probably jack tier

    • @Bath0rius
      @Bath0rius 9 месяцев назад +6

      All Hanada really did was turn Hanayamas power around on him and throw him to the ground, saying Hanayama got knocked out is frankly ridiculous

    • @griefer5846
      @griefer5846 4 месяца назад

      @@technodry3216if hanayama actually trained and took fighting serious from when he was young, he’d probably be as strong as yujiro. Yujiro has also claimed him to be ‘born strong’. Only difference is that hanayama doesn’t train and that yujiro probably trained a lot when he was young (martial arts).

  • @kevinthomas7259
    @kevinthomas7259 9 месяцев назад +27

    Olivia and that ball move he does too crush his opponent is pretty badass

  • @koheletcalaforexclan6508
    @koheletcalaforexclan6508 9 месяцев назад +10

    I’ve always liked the respect Oliva and Yujiro have. One is the Strongest Man, the other the Strongest Monster!

  • @Claudiustheimmortal
    @Claudiustheimmortal 9 месяцев назад +11

    Oliva represents the old guard, while Hanayama is new blood. When Oliva first introduced he going to be much stronger, but as story progresses that gap closes. Also I don't think Oliva sphere technique will be as effective towards Hanayama, Specc had Hanayama badly weakened and in a tight choke hold, that was until, Hanayama gripped his inner thigh and tore a chunk of his muscle off.

  • @eman22017
    @eman22017 9 месяцев назад +49

    Oliva got a big power up near the end of the last Baki run. Hanayama, meanwhile, has unfortunately been stagnant. Oliva probably wins this without too much trouble.

    • @ShankX10
      @ShankX10 9 месяцев назад +4

      I would agree Oliva would win Mid to maybe High dif. He just cant challenge him to a grip strength match or just not get grabbed by him. He may be in trouble but I could see him being able to get out of it or just taking the damage and still wining.

    • @TheMasterBlaze
      @TheMasterBlaze 9 месяцев назад +2

      Hanayama trains a little bit in Secret, but I find it hard to believe somebody like Oliver who is a connoisseur of raw strength and extremely well educated would lose to the Brawler that is Hanayama.

    • @ericx6969
      @ericx6969 9 месяцев назад

      oliva lost to hanma son while hanayama beat a hanma son he leagues ahead also has oliva and yujiro even actually fought legit once after baki was born like huh lol

    • @shvvagier4951
      @shvvagier4951 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@ericx6969
      "Hanyama beat a hanma son" and when was that? If you mean that fight from early Baki the grappler when Baki was 13 yo then just give up man, 18 yo Baki from prison Oliva fight would no diff that baki from Hanayama fight so that's lame comparison.

    • @0Rosanna
      @0Rosanna 9 месяцев назад +2

      ​@@ericx6969not a very smart way to try and justify that Oliva is stronger. Baki at the time was wayyy weaker then he is right now. This also applies to hanayama the only difference is hanayama has pretty big potential that could very easily give Oliva a run for his money. He just chooses not to train

  • @m.ridzwan99-26
    @m.ridzwan99-26 9 месяцев назад +8

    Oliva just loves to troll in fight, I think if he fights seriously, he can finish quickly or even win most of his matches.

  • @Maartun
    @Maartun 9 месяцев назад +4

    Imagine Hanayama vs pickle in a real fight!
    Imagine Hanayama vs Jack in a real fight!

  • @thechosenonetim7738
    @thechosenonetim7738 9 месяцев назад +3

    Oliva is one of the only three people under constant surveillance by satellite; also, Oliva has not been knocked out, Hanayama has been twice. Oliva fought Baki for over hour, Hanayama fought Baki for less than twenty minutes 💪🏽

  • @boxingdegenerate9077
    @boxingdegenerate9077 9 месяцев назад +29

    Oliva and Hanayama are two similar archetypes but Oliva is smarter, has better techniques, and arguably has better physical specs. So I’m giving it to Oliva.
    Although, I do think Hanayama in his fight with Musashi versus Oliva in the prison arc would be really close, with the slight edge going to Hanayama in my opinion. Like you’ve said many times, the fanbase needs to realize characters are constantly getting stronger, just at different rates. ESPECIALLY Hanayama, who would wash the version of himself in the Deadly Convicts arc.
    But most of the series, and currently in Rahen, Oliva takes it. But really close, both definitely top 10 fighters.

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 9 месяцев назад +5

      I do not agree. Oliva hit a dude so hard the satellites in outer space cut off.

    • @jaybomb5022
      @jaybomb5022 9 месяцев назад +4

      ​@@sky-oq5mrDude I forgot about this 😂😂 he threw off the gps of vehicles on the whole planet from hitting someone.

    • @dennisthorson4159
      @dennisthorson4159 9 месяцев назад

      Oliva is booksmart af, but his fighting smarts are on the lowests of lows in Baki verse, he'll take straight punches head on

    • @Stas_Platonoff
      @Stas_Platonoff 9 месяцев назад

      ​@@sky-oq5mrso fast* and bcuz they were close to eac other

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 9 месяцев назад

      @@Stas_Platonoff wtf are you talking about dawg? Stay out of this conversation.

  • @shadowhell8378
    @shadowhell8378 9 месяцев назад +5

    Oliver's biggest weakness is his mindset to fights.
    We saw in his fight with Shobun Ron that early he was playing around and got injured but at the end shobun Ron could do anything against him.
    For Guevara he was confident again and played along with Guevara's game something the he did to neff Oliver but after baki laid with Maria Oliver stopped playing around and low diffed Guevara.
    Against baki it was a high diff fight with Oliver being serious from the beginning for once and both looked spent by the end.
    Against Yujiro it's Yujiro enough said but he still has Yujiro's respect.
    Again Sukuna Again he was over confident but this time it cost him far more then in previous fights. So hopefully he stops taking all his fights lightly and starts fighting them seriously from the start.
    For hanayama he was the strongest before he fought the hanmas and learned that lesson early and has been improving since. The translation is questionably as in the one I read it said his natural getting stronger like Yujiro but I've seen other that say he trains with nobody knowing so we'll have to wait for the anime for the final say.
    As of right now I'll give the high diff win to Oliver assuming that he doesn't get crippled by hanayama's grip before getting serious.

  • @noctislucis9521
    @noctislucis9521 9 месяцев назад +7

    yujiro already said it he dont want to take the full force headbutt of oliva and in their fight yujiro didn't want oliva landing a punch on him giving the statement above some credibility while when yujiro fight hanayama he let him punch him full force.

    • @alearnedman
      @alearnedman 9 месяцев назад +4

      Yeah, but due to feats, Yujiro jumps so much in power throughout the series. The version of Yujiro that took Hanayama's full punch was also after his climactic fight with Baki, which was also after Yujiro demolished Oliva in a test of pure strength

    • @noctislucis9521
      @noctislucis9521 9 месяцев назад +1

      @@alearnedman yeah that's true but given the new arc looks like oliva got some power up going on.

  • @nikolairebolloso5979
    @nikolairebolloso5979 9 месяцев назад +3

    If Oliver and Hanayama end up fighting if would be interesting because the fight could end with either one of them win but all we know is if it ever does happen it my surprise use all considering how crazy the baki fights can get

  • @Mugiwara_Didi
    @Mugiwara_Didi 9 месяцев назад +3

    Are you reading Baki: Hana no Chiharu? Hanayama has a fight coming in the next chapter or so with Shunsei.

  • @zipblockarchives900
    @zipblockarchives900 9 месяцев назад +7

    It would be a good fight but by bet is on unchained.

  • @i.k.9467
    @i.k.9467 9 месяцев назад +2

    This is my dream fight since day one fr

  • @leonardomodes1007
    @leonardomodes1007 9 месяцев назад +3

    He would never let Hanayama lose because he is japanese and Biscuit american.

  • @rheyshassell585
    @rheyshassell585 9 месяцев назад +3

    They need the prisoners back at some point. Mabey not in this arc but in the future cos I want to see how they evolved

    • @LincolnKimble
      @LincolnKimble 2 месяца назад

      Nah baki characters get stronger by fighting they should comeback in this arc so jack beats them up

  • @dijaunyoung1541
    @dijaunyoung1541 9 месяцев назад +16

    Both fighters doesn't block attacks,it would be a pound for pound brute force match where olivia would win

  • @xgodzz
    @xgodzz 9 месяцев назад +2

    Yujiro didn't let oliva land a punch, u gotta think abt that 👀🔥🔥

  • @donaldsmith8717
    @donaldsmith8717 9 месяцев назад +2

    Musashi was pure skill, biscuit pure strength, they messed up and not having them two fight. Biscuit might have held up to his sword more than anyone else.

  • @Tylearned
    @Tylearned 9 месяцев назад +1

    Unstoppable force vs da immovable object 🗣️

  • @MutantCyborg001
    @MutantCyborg001 9 месяцев назад +1

    The only weakness Oliva has is his head or if you have a supernatural ability like the Hanma back, the demon jaw or Sukune's godly grip, but now he had a power up, using martial arts, more raw strength and such.

  • @solaire07
    @solaire07 9 месяцев назад +2

    They did Oliva bad by no longer making him on par with yujiro in terms of strength, but I think the character who had it the worst off was Gaia, dude literally is fodder compared to the likes of Hanayama, biscuit, jack and those guys where he was once regarded as the only one in the world that had the best chance of defeating yujiro.

  • @sanestbocchi
    @sanestbocchi 9 месяцев назад +1

    with all respect to oliva if they were to fight i think author loves hanayama too much to let him lose. he's getting his own spin-offs, all of his fights are bangers and he always has a moments where he faces vs top tiers like musashi, pickle, yujiro. with opponents pretty much always praising him. would really love to see him in all out fight in current manga

  • @robgoins3672
    @robgoins3672 8 месяцев назад

    Hell of a mask you got there.

  • @jacobwilson989
    @jacobwilson989 9 месяцев назад +2

    Both their yujiro "fights' should be mentioned oliva quickly got up from a punch while hanayama was knocked out from a slap. Both flew a similar distance and it was only one arc apart

    • @jonathandeza7718
      @jonathandeza7718 16 дней назад

      thats Yujiro after he fought Baki lol which is stronger

    • @jacobwilson989
      @jacobwilson989 16 дней назад

      @@jonathandeza7718 only one arc though

  • @fakawrahir6417
    @fakawrahir6417 9 месяцев назад +1

    It's a thinking sport,a toughman will get hurt real bad in this game.
    -Tyson

  • @Pastamist
    @Pastamist 9 месяцев назад +2

    You know, I can actually think of a reason how Hanayama beats Oliva in the arcade. For the record, this was probably Musashi-Arc Hanayama versus Unchained-Arc/early Sumo-Arc Oliva.
    I do believe Oliva does still have raw power over Hanayama, but Hanayama simply has the durability advantage given his sheer conditioning via taking all manners of attack (which is crazy considering Oliva did take less visible damage than Baki in their exchange, despite Baki being faster and just as strong, hence he was overpowered.)

    • @ericx6969
      @ericx6969 9 месяцев назад

      if baki can beat oliva there no excuse why hanayama cant beat oliva lol

    • @Pastamist
      @Pastamist 9 месяцев назад

      @@ericx6969 Does this mean Hanayama = Baki?

    • @sky-oq5mr
      @sky-oq5mr 9 месяцев назад

      Baki needed demon back and mind and still damn near died. Hanayama isn't on Oliver power level. Oliver hit a dude so hard the satellites in space got disrupted. Hanayama dies from a punch. ​@@ericx6969

  • @markomurisic1354
    @markomurisic1354 9 месяцев назад +2

    They are pretty much even hope Jack fights hanayama tho

  • @ΚωνσταντινοςΜαστορης-γ8ν
    @ΚωνσταντινοςΜαστορης-γ8ν 9 месяцев назад +2

    Personally I think that they are equally in terms of strength, considering that oliva isn't Japanese, but I will give a slight edge to Oliva. Though in fight I see hanayama winning mid diff since he is more cautious, observant and doesn't overestimate himself.

  • @TheBenjammin808
    @TheBenjammin808 9 месяцев назад +1

    I give it to Hanayama. They are both so offensive based. With that being the case, I think that Hanayama has the punching power to weaken Oliver enough that his sphere wouldn't work against him. I also think if he did get caught, his grip strength would counter the sphere.

  • @steffanofumo
    @steffanofumo 9 месяцев назад +1

    Oliva should be above Hanayama, story wise Baki had a progression of opponents has stepping stones towards his father, he searched out Oliva, then Itagaki had to pull out a new character out of thin air with Pickle to introduce a challenge for Baki before his father, that being said you never know what can happen with Itagaki’s newer style of writing.

  • @zerx601
    @zerx601 9 месяцев назад +1

    HANAYAMA😤💯

  • @Sosapotence3001990
    @Sosapotence3001990 9 месяцев назад +9

    Oliva High dif

    • @Youarecool12345
      @Youarecool12345 3 месяца назад

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  • @kaimobley5324
    @kaimobley5324 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hanayama only did so well against Musashi bcus of how Musashi is. Musashi likes to see what his opponent does first before flat out dominating gradually more and more

  • @gary7846
    @gary7846 9 месяцев назад +1

    Both of them are tanks, strong. In a contest of power hanayama wins, but olivia doesn't have martial arts either, only the ball, so hanayama would probably brute force him

  • @timberwolfbrother
    @timberwolfbrother 2 месяца назад

    Oliva, a lot like Baki, has a really bad habit of screwing around too much, but unlike Baki he tends to get himself into losses by playing to other peoples' strengths. When he fights in his own way he shows that he is still a beast.

  • @JakoWako
    @JakoWako 9 месяцев назад

    I think I’d go with Hanayama on this. Most of their stats are comparable, but Hanayama’s character is about perseverance while Oliva hasn’t been shown to do any endurance training. Bodybuilders in general aren’t known for endurance. Unless Oliva is strong enough to overpower Hanayama in a few blows then I don’t see him winning in a dragged out fight.

  • @DubV-qr5xb
    @DubV-qr5xb 8 месяцев назад +1

    Have to disagree about Hanayama having "great difficulty" vs Speck, take away the cheap gun shots, bullets exploding in his mouth etc (iow were it a straight up fight) Han would have won rather easily

  • @clayman-ken
    @clayman-ken 5 месяцев назад

    Yoo hlHanayama is the real deal man I hv huge respect for that dude! Man read Hanayama arc!

  • @RafelJaggai
    @RafelJaggai Месяц назад

    #1 US Prisoner VS #1 JPNSE Yakuza

  • @Leviathan1000
    @Leviathan1000 9 месяцев назад +1

    Current Oliva is definitely above current Hanayama and has the better IQ than Hanayama and has the better technique. And I think his lost against sukune actually help him learn not to always rely on strength alone.

  • @roodyg5352
    @roodyg5352 9 месяцев назад

    Wonder if we’ll get Musashi in anime

  • @TheMasterAnt
    @TheMasterAnt 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hanayama

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  9 месяцев назад +3

      sheesh, bro had been subbed for 3 years, thanks for all the support :)

  • @dmt5codm811
    @dmt5codm811 9 месяцев назад +1

    Baki super

  • @shvvagier4951
    @shvvagier4951 9 месяцев назад +1

    Honestly Oliva low diffs if he isn't messing around.

  • @silverdoggg
    @silverdoggg 3 месяца назад

    I absolutely HATE how they did Oliva. They turned a top 5 character into a joke character.

  • @danielharding3534
    @danielharding3534 4 месяца назад

    if it wasnt for the recoding comment you decided to add at 1052 I was going to call you out but by that point delete your point because it is false and if I didn't stop to read it I would've believed you or thought you were wrong I personally think Hanayama stand a good chance till oliva proves he's upped his game

  • @coffeepot3123
    @coffeepot3123 9 месяцев назад +1

    Pickle will surpass all after he loses his virginity bro.

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  9 месяцев назад +2

      did you skip his arc?

    • @coffeepot3123
      @coffeepot3123 9 месяцев назад

      @@mysteriousweeb As a working class gym goer my only access to baki content is via the tube..

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  9 месяцев назад +2

      i see, well he did something to a women that i cant really describe here

    • @coffeepot3123
      @coffeepot3123 9 месяцев назад

      @@mysteriousweeb I don't understand what you mean, describe the event using emojis. ..

  • @floppa731
    @floppa731 7 месяцев назад

    Oliva destroys Hanayama and it’s not that close

  • @jaykrit2322
    @jaykrit2322 9 месяцев назад +1

    Biscuit obviously. He is an American 🤣

  • @jjmmat133
    @jjmmat133 9 месяцев назад +1

    Oliva should but he will take a lot of hits

  • @Majinbeck_exe
    @Majinbeck_exe 9 месяцев назад

    Knowing Itagaki, he would make Hanayama win a fight between those two. Regardless is oliva is stronger

  • @frogartti
    @frogartti 9 месяцев назад

    Oliva wins high diff at the current point of the story

  • @Small_child_punter
    @Small_child_punter 9 месяцев назад

    I doubt the fight is as close as you give it credit for. I dont think theres much case for Hanayama winning.
    Even if per chance you can say the two of them are similar in strength and durability, Oliva is an adaptive and intelligent fighter. Hanayama is not. Oliva has the sense to not try to take every single blow and he would fight fast. Hanayama is getting his lights punched out pretty easily cuz hed do no such thing. Hanayama hasnt been hit by someone as strong as Oliva, besides Pickle, and that punch sent Hanayama flying.
    Oliva wont be gravely hurt from Hanayamas punches. So Hanayamas only true win condition is his grip, and Olivas muscles are so dense even that would struggle to do much good. Oliva mid diffs Hanayama.
    Also a few of the showing for Hanayama you displayed are no good. His fight with Musashi is ruled out because Musashi was goofing around that fight and didnt try to end it with any sort of urgency. His charge with pickle is a crazy feat but not representative of how it would look if pickle actually charged him with serious intent. And the grip contest where he destroys Musashi is just that. Grip. Pickle would outmuscle him in every other way.

  • @MarkennMendoza
    @MarkennMendoza 5 месяцев назад

    Oliva will win but Hanayama will come back. Remeber he is still very young many time to improved 😊

  • @tobisenpai5953
    @tobisenpai5953 9 месяцев назад +1

    I love hanayama but oliva got this

  • @anastvezy1485
    @anastvezy1485 9 месяцев назад +2

    Hanayama now is top tier in the verse
    The only guys that can beat hanayama is yujiro,baki,mushasi
    And pickle with Kaku kaioh but not sure win these 2
    Like he can tank as much as oliva tank and he has will power all the time he is stand up and smashes
    If he catches Olivia's face or arm he is gonna break him

  • @Sniper9773
    @Sniper9773 9 месяцев назад

    It won't be easy but Oliva wins.

  • @kendalljoseph9279
    @kendalljoseph9279 9 месяцев назад

    What about hanayama beat d grandmaster he came back from the dead

  • @lautaroferrer2858
    @lautaroferrer2858 9 месяцев назад

    Sadly it's an Oliva high/very high diff

  • @GroundedAnSuffocated
    @GroundedAnSuffocated 8 месяцев назад +1

    what a weeb

  • @John93965
    @John93965 9 месяцев назад +1

    Hanayama has my vote. Don't like Oliva.

    • @mysteriousweeb
      @mysteriousweeb  9 месяцев назад +1

      subbed for 9months, cheers

    • @kingemmanuel8400
      @kingemmanuel8400 9 месяцев назад

      Racist

    • @John93965
      @John93965 9 месяцев назад +3

      @@kingemmanuel8400 Race has absolutely nothing to do with my dislike of Oliva. Stop being sensitive, you crybaby.

    • @cvo7617
      @cvo7617 9 месяцев назад

      Give me a valid reason or it's race dude he's a great character ​@@John93965

  • @Vytelux
    @Vytelux 9 месяцев назад +1

    oliva mid diff

  • @benjaroman5071
    @benjaroman5071 9 месяцев назад

    Oliva wins... easily

  • @mr_ticklebottoms
    @mr_ticklebottoms 9 месяцев назад +3

    Talent vs hard work

  • @bulldozer99
    @bulldozer99 28 дней назад

    Thanks ma'am, the guys aka men are truly enjoying your videos, oh by the way, you need to shave next time ma'am.

  • @bulldozer99
    @bulldozer99 28 дней назад

    I love Oliva because he's a magnificent Mangod and my kind of husband material ❤️💋