Also if you didn't know the removal is redish in the manga like the advance. They made it purple in the anime so people could tell the difference easier.
@@hahnoob6658 You have to strike the heart in just the right way to force them to learn the technique. Once or twice so they can never forget the sensation.
Removal has little to none drawbacks, advance can abuse your heart and vessels. But if you are a regular person id say advance is better, because if you use removal you may be very strong for awhile but youll die of broken bones and muscle tears after, unlike removal which takes continous application to be fatal.
Removal has a ton of drawbacks if you are not a kure, that's actually why only the kure use it. If you use removal all your muscles and even bones would break (similar to what the berserker armor does).
A normal person using advance would die via brain death as an accelerated heart rate doesnt allow for your blood to be oxygenated so you just suffocate yourself basically and would be dead after around 8 mins depending on size
@@JulianViquez berserker armor only damages bones, it's illogical I know, but the user still can move while having his whole body pierced. And don't compare trauma from external source and internal damage
Don't forget if Kure Karla and Ohma have a kid it's possible that the child will be able to use the Removal and Advance at the same time even just for a little while
Advance is more likely an Adrenaline rush bcoz of heart rate increased and it triggers fight or flight mode. While Removal is more of a Enkephalins and Endorphins realese, since Riaan is on Euphoric state using it.
I have seen some describe it as hysterical strength caused by a manic state induced by a purposeful triggering of psychosis, similar to how someone might be able to witness a mother lift a car to save their child. The difference between Raian and Ohma is that Raian was essentially bred for the purpose of being able to properly utilize "hysterical strength" without suffering from the the actual real world consequence of permanent muscle weakness, bone damage, heart complications, or other terrible things that come from pushing your body past its very set limits. Ohma has no such genetic advantage, and when he takes an advance it causes permanent heart damage. This is also why when others use "Removal" they start to suffer from bodily harm. It also can explain why Raian pretty much never had to learn anything past basic techniques to beat the shit out of people. Hysterical strength has not been seen to be overly-dextrous, and usually can be seen to be utilized for one purpose (running, lifting, etc.).
@@inoerinoblu6521 you laid it out perfectly IMO. Removal is basically hysterical strength from a body that specially made to be able to use it and not be permanently disabled.
You still need the extra blood circulation to increase strength. Removal should be Advanced plus Endorphins. It should mess up the heart worse than Advance. It doesn’t make sense at all. Heart needs to work even harder in Removal.
Both are similar but they both have drawbacks. Removal drawbacks: Drains stamina so the user can’t maintain removal for long, places strain on the body(even on the Kure, but they’re able to handle the strain), Their is a certain limit on your latent power(low latent=low power; high latent=higher power). Advance drawbacks: Causes hallucinations, blood vessel damages, damages to the heart, causes user to forget certain memories, feral smile(although I think that part is cool like Raina’s feral smile). Although, in omega, ohma doesn’t have any of these drawbacks anymore because he can control his advance plus he got a new heart that doesn’t get damaged if he uses the advance so the only drawback ohma would have in omega is not going berserk(advance level 3). Let me know if I forgot anything in the comment section; I love this anime
Yeah, actually your body puts this limit on your muscular output to protect your tendons and surrounding tissue, so by knowing this we can understand that Removal is just usually putting unnecessary (usually) strain on the body.
his heart would still get damaged if he used the advance as recklessly as before, it just hasn't been damaged yet since it's a new one and he can controll the advance better now like you said.
I like how first Raian was patronizing Ohma and just wanted to kill him but by the end of Ashura turned into his fanboy. And now they are basically best buddies. Ohma might be the only person Raian doesn't want to kill xD
Spoilers - Well Ohma is pretty much part of the Kure clan now in Kengan Omega, he lives at the Kure Mansion and even trains with them. So pretty much he's been accepted as Karura's husband by her Grandfather.
just to clarify, when the tiger niko “gave” ohma the advance, all he did was jump start ohma’s heart. (this isn’t explicitly stated but given the way the possessing spirit works one can assume that’s all he did) but when actual niko hit ohma in the chest, he used the redirection kata chi blockage technique and knocked ohma’s spine slightly out of place to restraint his power. (this IS explicitly stated. refer back to the setsuna and ohma fight to see this) so that’s the difference.
I was always confused how tiger niko gave ohma advance, so thanks for clearing this up. Although could you imagine tiger niko just going around jump starting peoples hearts to give them advance? Imagine if he met mokichi when he left home and was in the criminal underworld and gave him advance.
Facts basically anyone with a healthy heart can do it meanwhile for removal you would need a really, really, really powerful body or be in the kure family
@@marvenscharleslouissaint1346 they won’t but after a certain percentage they would need to be in there as little as possible or there body probably fails on them
@@banana195 It would make sense in a future story where Ohma married into the Kure clan through Karla and taught the Niko style to his child of children. The clan is known for finding the strongest to mix into their gene pool to make their clan stronger. Think about it, bodies made to be MUCH stronger than normal human bodies that can unleash their latent potential mixed with a technique that can make the body produce more torque and move faster than before? What would you call that?
You were almost close in naming The Divine Demon technique lol. Nice going... The parent techniques however as you should know are fallen demon and the advance
@@Miter_everyCorner-uk6on I know our evolution revolves around us being able to think more than physicality but I’m still pissy that we couldn’t evolve for both
I think removal is still better as even if someone had a 100% removal and was a weak character you could still beat them with a weaker removal just by having a higher base strength and using a martial art eith it while advance has to be weakened in order to use martial arts with it which just makes it a little harder and more specific to use. Imagine if any Kure clan member used niko style. They’d have no problems using it since it doesn’t cause strain on their movements.
A man in real life who used the removal was eddie hall with the 500 kg deadlift. and im not joking. he said in an interview that he had to ricreate in his mind a scenario of life and death to access 100% of his muscle fibers and lift that 500kg and he did it... absolute beast.
@@Kureclaneverything is activated by a thought, if you.. think about it. That's why it's a technique, not some "i unlocked my chakra points so the fox demon sealed in me can be unleashed! "
@@naufalmEZa no that’s a complete lie spoken by somebody who has no clue removal isn’t activated by thoughts there’s another trigger for it it’s closer to what you said in the second part than thoughts lol
Let me explain Advance and Removal from my perspective. For Advance, whenever your heart rate increases, more blood circulates around your body and brain. It gives you an Adrenaline Rush. You get a tremendous drive to go through anything and anyone. It basically gives you inhumane power. Your surrounding world seems slower as your blood circulation increased and you get better control over motor neurons and nerve-senses. Your metabolism rate hits the sky. You get a pumped up doze of sudden strength in your blood-stream. You can increase your strength and speed and reaction time via Advance. So, Advance mainly makes you superpowered. That's why Ohma Tokita got faster in the second round. On the other hand, For Removal, it unleashes power from your brain and you overcome all the limitations of your brain. Think about all the limitations you can face as a fighter. You can get fatigued, you can wear down because of pain, you get numb body parts, you lack mental strength which is a great weapon for you in a fight, you can have hyper-sensitive body hits that can make an impact on your performances. Once you overcome all those limitations, you just become a killing-machine. Cause, you have no weakness as a normal person would have. There's nothing that can stop you from the action until you completely break-down from inside. So, removal technique literally makes you a beast and superhuman. That's what happened for Kure Raian. He got defeated once his neck snapped from the repeated shots from Ohma Tokita. Until that, he was a BEAST.
advance is increasing the heart rate to pump more blood around your body and thereby increase the your metabolic rate, so not quite a adrenaline rush as I'm not sure that can increase your metabolism. Removal, well, removes the brains "limiter". The limiter keeps you from using most of your bodies hidden strength unless in time of stress with adrenaline rushes allowing you to temporarily break your limiter somewhat, however removal doesn't require the use of adrenaline to break through the limiter as they can consciously remove their limiter, allowing them to unlock their hidden strength.
Theirs also the side affects of using the Advance. The Removal is stronger but if we’re talking about our side people using it then the Advance would be the thing to have
Despite the removal being powerful a normal person can use it but they’d have to be a one in a million like lu tian in order to not die as for the advance you only gotta worry about the output you use and how much strain on your heart and blood vessels . So outta the both of em goin with my boy ohmas possessing spirt 🔥🔥
Using advance is like switching from throwing a bullet with your hand to shooting it as an ammo for a gun while removal are endorphins that boosts your overall performance.
Removal is a thing in real life. Eddie Hall imagines traumatic shit to boost his lifts. Historically, warriors go berserk, entering altered states of mind to fight wildly and more effectively. Easy way to see it modern day is with druggies. A 130lb guy broke into the home of a heavyweight UFC fighter Anthony Smith, who said that it took all his power and skills just to stay even with the guy. It’s a matter of psychology.
Yah👍 Even soldiers take druggies as well before they are sent into the battlefield. In order to eliminate "fear" from their minds. So that they won't have any hesitations that will compromise their performance and mission. They basically go berserk.
@@Kureclanit is removal by consciously removing the limiter of your brain which keep you from using mire than 30% of your muscle strength prolonged usage of removal will drive you insane
advances overclocks the hearts speed rate to pump more blood around the body to boost their metabolic rate, thereby increasing speed and torque. Removal, well, removes the brains limiter on how much of the bodies strength you can use to allow you to use greater strength, so while the average person can use 25-30% of their bodies strength without the use of adrenaline, removal allows the user to use all the way up to 100% of the bodies strength.
Ohma's Advance has 3 gears to it the first increasing his speed without causing much damage by kengan omega the second gear begins to cause damage to the blood vessels the third gear greatly increases speed causing damage to the blood vessels and heart leading to audio and visual hallucinations
Well to those asking. If a Kure clan member used advance, they would be completely fine. They can already handle the Removal without any consequence, and since they are familiar with Removal, the similar concept of advance would be easy for them to control. It would pretty much have no drawbacks. Now an ordinary person would have live 1 minute to live Edit: I was so wrong on this comment. While it's true that removal and advance are similar using both would be bad for anybody. However like that one fighter if you use a small percentage of both it would work
i mean i would rather go crazy for a few minutes and get some injuries from my body ripping itself apart while using the Removal, than die of cardiac arrest ten seconds after using the Advance
I think removal is more dangerous when you consider lu tian, a 1 in a million prodigy, using it went berserk and was having strain from it. Your body would likely destroy itself, crippling you.
Well, now we know that there is also Niko style: Fallen Demon. And Fallen Demon combined with Advance = Divine Demon. Also the Connector has Divine Demon+ 100% Superman Sindrom+ Full muscles controll ( like Julius)
fact: the reason why ohma eyes turned into like the kure familiy is cuz hes using removal and advance together i knew it because gaoh makuka uses advance and removal together hes the one who created the niko style i think he adopted niko and niko adopted ohma
gaoh mukako has never shown to be able to use advance nor removal, and tiger niko is the one stated to have created advance, and ohma only used advance.
If removal used a lot of stamina and advance increase heart rate, then its possible to have an unlimited removal because the blood will give more oxygen to the muscle
Removal should also affect the heart rate, all that blood is necessary to pump the muscles and increase the physical strength. If Advance has a drawback, Removal should have even more drawbacks.
6:55 it would make sense for it to increase durability that depends on muscles, so for example a lowkick targets the leg muscles and if you flex them that lessens the effect so removal allowing you to flex them harder would probably make them hit less hard. even against headshots having stronger neck muscles to stop your head from moving as much could help however for stuff like a kick to the ribs where it's bones being targeted or if your shins are getting hurt or for a broken nose it shouldn't do anything. I could see anime logic having it increase durability in those last cases anyway though.
I see them as relative more so impressive for the advance as how it only increases speed while the removal at 100% is an overall increase by 3x i think. So r2 ohma at the strongest we’ve seen the advance be is able to at the very least keep up and even exhaust 100% raian with no techniques imo there relative with the advance being more so usable by “anyone” while the removal you’d need the special kure/wu body to use it effectively without killing yourself because of backlash
@mysteriousweeb I've taken note of the case with huiseng. It's literally all connected. Going back to chapter 96 in kengen and the reveal of edward wu... and his connection to tiger niko. Now after we have said setsuna vs tiger, and akoya, willem wu and raian fight again. This raian is different and the crazy reveal of otakemaru is fireeeee... i think raian is like the connecter, makaku in the fact of having in human pain tolerance. What if otakemaru can light on fire, and thats the reason its weighted and raian can deal with the pain because he's top of the verse and theory.... what if rikito kure is raians father and his uncle was Edward. Alan possibility had superman syndrome along with guihun... but i think guihun is different from removal... slightly. Raians removal is perfected... and i think hes the one who taught ohma how use his advance in burst. I think raian is like his big brother quite literally
Advance remind me of mitsuomi situation in tenuous tenge. His heart beating faster speed giving him power boost. But he can’t use it for long. Probably I think it was 3 minutes
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If the Advanced increases the velocity wouldn't that be much better then fallen demon for Kiryu Setsuna ? Imagine him like twice as fast he would be so much stronger
I think he probably only learned fallen demon. Fallen demon places far less strain on the body than advance but far more strain on the brain. however kiryu used a imperfect fallen demon. A perfected fallen demon would be fei wangfangs since he can combine it with advance.
Advanced is stronger than removal imo. Base Raian is much much stronger than base Ohma, or at least round 2 Ohma, yet Advanced Ohma was just a little weaker if not even with Removal Raian, who has by far the strongest possible Removal.
They both increase your speed and power, the advance achieves it by increasing your heart rate, while the removel removes the limiter in your brain. None of them effect how tough you are
Doesn't matter about latent power, you saw it yourself in the fight that when they both unleashed their forms Ohma was just as strong as Raian after getting stomped in base power. That says a lot about how much of a boost Advance gives you Example: Meaning Raians base power: 100 Raian after transformation: 159 Ohma Base power: 78 Ohma after transformation: 150-157 And my point is, is that Advance makes you stronger than removal. If Raian had Advance instead of removal he'd be so fricking strong. Edit: My point is proven even further when you know that Raian is using 100% removal and Ohma is still equal to him
if base raian is 100 then transformed raian should be roughly 3.33x that due to 100% removal unlocking 70% of his hidden strength, as his base form can only use 30%. So here are better numbers: base raian: 60 removal raian: 200 base ohma: 30 advance ohma stage 1: 60 (he was equaling base raian) Advance ohma stage 2: 120 (raian stated he was 2x as fast) Advance ohma stage 3: 190 (equaling removal raian)
@@chineseducksauce9085dude he wasn’t playing around he was going full power in fist fight when it was saying he was playing around they meant in him not using any techniques not a single Kure clan technique just brawling.
Removal is much better imo. As far as we know .. it has no drawbacks as long as a kure uses it. It gives u a better boost since its overall stats Meanwhilr the advance damages you and only.boosts your speed Advance is better if u average joe Removal is superior if u a kure
@@DDATheboss maybe. But the only time in omega he uses it its the weakest version of advance with the least output. So we still dont know. And there should be no reason to believe now it doesnt damage his heart. It should still affect his health thats why its a bad transformation
The advance is easier for normal people to achieve but harder and deadlier to control a while. The removal is easier to control , but harder to achieve.
...but i wonder why did tiger niko asked Edward to teach him removal if he already had advance to his grip..and Edward also said that it will take million in one chance to work effectively (because it strains emmesly on users body which is similar to advance).. I am bit confused ??why didn't tiger niko tough advance to His one in one million bet..
Because he developed the advance later on, my guess is that he took some ideas from the removal and created his own version of removal which is the advance
I've just watched this on Netflix n loved don't know any of thete name but the mad man who gose purple is the stronger fighter by far. And the fact le loves getting hurt well that says it all for me but we know he won't win but if it was real no one would last 10 seconds with that guy he's a beast
Advance is like drinking 50 Red Bulls you get hype.you get fast don’t get winded also get heart issue as 50 Red Bulls should Removal is literally a hobos crack boost
To me The Advance is more powerful and the technique significantly increases the strength, speed, durability and power of the individual. The Removal is a technique that depends on the latent ability of the person and the limiter. So unless you are able to use atleast above 50 to nearly 100 o 100% of The Removal would it be beneficial of use over base form and as long as you have a strong base form and huge limit Removal then only can it be as powerful or more powerful or go par with The Advance. We also know that the ones who can use The Removal to the highest extent or limit are selectively bred but others also can use but to not to that degree. So the Advance is powerful and better I believe as it was mainly created to counter The Removal as Removal depends on the persons limiter. In the Long Run, might I add The Advance does cause blood vessel damage to the user leading to the death which I believe the Removal doesnt cause such harm. So, in that case The Removal is better for longevity if its true. Apart from that The Advance uses the Heart and The Removal uses the brain so if someone uses both that would be insane and cause death. If it werent for the blood vessel damage The Advance is the more powerful technique unless Removal user has a higher limiter.
If ohma has a kid with karla god damn that kid is going to be a fucking monster, karla has 96% removal and ohmas advance, that kid is going to be fucking baki levels of being broken
To me removal is more dangerous than advance because you have to be kure otherwise you just fuck yourself over but advance can make faster but just harms your heart overtime
What if yujiro learned the advance or removal? Lol Jokes aside he would learn it in instantly and he whould not have any side effect since his body is beyond op.
He would have no uses for either technique with his demon back, how much more output can he supply. How would anyone tell the difference; its true no one in Baki can force his best then last long enough for him to reveal this hidden gem.
Our bodies limit the strength output to protect our bones from shattering, muscles from ripping apart and tendons from detaching. Our hearts are subconsciously controlled by our brain, regulating output to appropriately provide the necessary energy to maintain "not-dying." Removal disables the brain's strength limiter while Advance overrides heart control. Removal won't help much if your heart can't supply the extra blood needed to maintain the extra power. Weak bodies also not recommended. Strong heart and good genes required. Advance does nothing for normal people besides Tachycardia induced heart failure. It also won't help if your body can't handle the increased strength. Strong heart and good genes required. The techniques are same-same, but have different priorities. If you're a normal dude: -Removal will break your body. -Advance will kill you. If you train your body: -Removal will give you more power, but you'll faint after a few seconds of use. -Advance will still kill you, but hey instant power. If you're a Kure: -You'll be fine. -Lucky b*stard.
removal and possesed by a god look like the same move to me, i like how you put the photo showing how much brain activity they have using them. i'm too old for that stuff now. advice for those who wanna be fighters, when u get possesed by the god, dont do anything stupid, its power can be overwelming, which is why its called possession, and causes people to go crazy when the god is active, its a schizophrenia thing, split mind/ split reality. the change in biology and psychology can be good, but instalibility isnt, so snap out of of it as fast as u can, people go to prison even if god makes them do it and u cant point fingers to him so noone sees him.
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Also if you didn't know the removal is redish in the manga like the advance. They made it purple in the anime so people could tell the difference easier.
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You should’ve mentioned potential Advance user like Ryuki since Kiryu might try to make him his new “god” to replace Ohma.
@@jss2141 but does he know how the possesing spirit was passed?
I dont remember but i dont think so
@@hahnoob6658 You have to strike the heart in just the right way to force them to learn the technique. Once or twice so they can never forget the sensation.
Removal has little to none drawbacks, advance can abuse your heart and vessels. But if you are a regular person id say advance is better, because if you use removal you may be very strong for awhile but youll die of broken bones and muscle tears after, unlike removal which takes continous application to be fatal.
Removal has no drawback if you are a kure member a normal man will die from over forcing his muscles
Removal has a ton of drawbacks if you are not a kure, that's actually why only the kure use it. If you use removal all your muscles and even bones would break (similar to what the berserker armor does).
A normal person using advance would die via brain death as an accelerated heart rate doesnt allow for your blood to be oxygenated so you just suffocate yourself basically and would be dead after around 8 mins depending on size
@@JulianViquez berserker armor only damages bones, it's illogical I know, but the user still can move while having his whole body pierced. And don't compare trauma from external source and internal damage
@@DDAThebosslol it does have drawbacks, it takes the users stamina away during usage
Don't forget if Kure Karla and Ohma have a kid it's possible that the child will be able to use the Removal and Advance at the same time even just for a little while
They will have fun at night
@@gaolangwongsawat6994 it would be destruction with Advance going on Removal everything will be destroyed
@@boltgamer7 Lol and then the bed would break apart
@@gaolangwongsawat6994 exactly
Dude he wouldn't even live to feel the true capacity of this gift
Advance is more likely an Adrenaline rush bcoz of heart rate increased and it triggers fight or flight mode. While Removal is more of a Enkephalins and Endorphins realese, since Riaan is on Euphoric state using it.
YOOOOO big brains on the comments?????
Mind blown
I have seen some describe it as hysterical strength caused by a manic state induced by a purposeful triggering of psychosis, similar to how someone might be able to witness a mother lift a car to save their child. The difference between Raian and Ohma is that Raian was essentially bred for the purpose of being able to properly utilize "hysterical strength" without suffering from the the actual real world consequence of permanent muscle weakness, bone damage, heart complications, or other terrible things that come from pushing your body past its very set limits. Ohma has no such genetic advantage, and when he takes an advance it causes permanent heart damage.
This is also why when others use "Removal" they start to suffer from bodily harm. It also can explain why Raian pretty much never had to learn anything past basic techniques to beat the shit out of people. Hysterical strength has not been seen to be overly-dextrous, and usually can be seen to be utilized for one purpose (running, lifting, etc.).
@@inoerinoblu6521 you laid it out perfectly IMO. Removal is basically hysterical strength from a body that specially made to be able to use it and not be permanently disabled.
You still need the extra blood circulation to increase strength. Removal should be Advanced plus Endorphins. It should mess up the heart worse than Advance. It doesn’t make sense at all. Heart needs to work even harder in Removal.
Both are similar but they both have drawbacks.
Removal drawbacks: Drains stamina so the user can’t maintain removal for long, places strain on the body(even on the Kure, but they’re able to handle the strain), Their is a certain limit on your latent power(low latent=low power; high latent=higher power).
Advance drawbacks: Causes hallucinations, blood vessel damages, damages to the heart, causes user to forget certain memories, feral smile(although I think that part is cool like Raina’s feral smile). Although, in omega, ohma doesn’t have any of these drawbacks anymore because he can control his advance plus he got a new heart that doesn’t get damaged if he uses the advance so the only drawback ohma would have in omega is not going berserk(advance level 3). Let me know if I forgot anything in the comment section; I love this anime
Yeah, actually your body puts this limit on your muscular output to protect your tendons and surrounding tissue, so by knowing this we can understand that Removal is just usually putting unnecessary (usually) strain on the body.
his heart would still get damaged if he used the advance as recklessly as before, it just hasn't been damaged yet since it's a new one and he can controll the advance better now like you said.
I like how first Raian was patronizing Ohma and just wanted to kill him but by the end of Ashura turned into his fanboy. And now they are basically best buddies. Ohma might be the only person Raian doesn't want to kill xD
Raian... Gaeh😆
Spoilers - Well Ohma is pretty much part of the Kure clan now in Kengan Omega, he lives at the Kure Mansion and even trains with them. So pretty much he's been accepted as Karura's husband by her Grandfather.
@Istruekin Well, if you read Ashura then you would know what Raian thinks of Ohma
@@StrainXv are ashura and omega the same thing?
@@shayn_3 Omega is the sequel Manga to Ashura.
just to clarify, when the tiger niko “gave” ohma the advance, all he did was jump start ohma’s heart. (this isn’t explicitly stated but given the way the possessing spirit works one can assume that’s all he did) but when actual niko hit ohma in the chest, he used the redirection kata chi blockage technique and knocked ohma’s spine slightly out of place to restraint his power. (this IS explicitly stated. refer back to the setsuna and ohma fight to see this) so that’s the difference.
I was always confused how tiger niko gave ohma advance, so thanks for clearing this up.
Although could you imagine tiger niko just going around jump starting peoples hearts to give them advance? Imagine if he met mokichi when he left home and was in the criminal underworld and gave him advance.
@@ProjektTakuecent chapters on Omega finally revealed how the advance was made, and it turns out it wasn't Tiger Niko that created it
@@mike90susanoo84 cool, who was it then?
@@ProjektTaku Gaoh Mukaku. It was originally used to fight against the connector but it failed badly
@@mike90susanoo84 cool
I would love to see the Tiger Vessel fight with Ohma and they both use Advance at the same time
Get away from me
No
We're almost there it's Okubo vs Lolong Simp and after that either we get Lolong vs Waka or Ohma vs Fei (Not sure if he's the Tiger's Vessel
Hey, how much time do you spend on the internet to be everywhere?
Ohma vs Lolong.
Tiger Vessel vs Tiger Vessel
advance is more powerful cause it doesnt have a limit but only threshold by heart but removal is capped by genetic potential
Facts basically anyone with a healthy heart can do it meanwhile for removal you would need a really, really, really powerful body or be in the kure family
@@marvenscharleslouissaint1346a normal person can use removal but there body can’t handle it
@@Forsakenruler hence why I said or a really really really powerful body
@@Forsakenruler I don't think so they would just die immediately
@@marvenscharleslouissaint1346 they won’t but after a certain percentage they would need to be in there as little as possible or there body probably fails on them
Kure Clan Secret Technique: Removal + Niko Style Secret Technique: Possessing Spirit = Kure Niko Ultimate Technique: Dark God Ascension.
We get it you can put together random cool sounding words, that wouldn’t be practical and wouldn’t make sense given the story and situation.
@@banana195 It would make sense in a future story where Ohma married into the Kure clan through Karla and taught the Niko style to his child of children. The clan is known for finding the strongest to mix into their gene pool to make their clan stronger. Think about it, bodies made to be MUCH stronger than normal human bodies that can unleash their latent potential mixed with a technique that can make the body produce more torque and move faster than before? What would you call that?
Makes sense
You were almost close in naming The Divine Demon technique lol. Nice going... The parent techniques however as you should know are fallen demon and the advance
@@jss2141 cheating. I'd call it cheating
Imagine if humans were capable of willingly control our adrenaline levels.
We would be a race made for combat if we could do that😆
@@Miter_everyCorner-uk6on I know our evolution revolves around us being able to think more than physicality but I’m still pissy that we couldn’t evolve for both
We are capable you just gotta train it.
@@Miter_everyCorner-uk6on yeah, also been playing og final fantasy 7 and I have to say that tifa is best girl.
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Wakatsuki and Julius too much, for them to go against Jerry?
Removal Wakatsuki and Advance Julius together might have a slim chance of winning this
Jerry Tyson would 1 shot both of them
@@misasa2176 facts
We all know lord Kazuo Yamashita would clap them both at the same time..XD
I think removal is still better as even if someone had a 100% removal and was a weak character you could still beat them with a weaker removal just by having a higher base strength and using a martial art eith it while advance has to be weakened in order to use martial arts with it which just makes it a little harder and more specific to use. Imagine if any Kure clan member used niko style. They’d have no problems using it since it doesn’t cause strain on their movements.
A man in real life who used the removal was eddie hall with the 500 kg deadlift. and im not joking. he said in an interview that he had to ricreate in his mind a scenario of life and death to access 100% of his muscle fibers and lift that 500kg and he did it... absolute beast.
Removal isn’t activated by thoughts so no he didn’t use removal
@@Kureclaneverything is activated by a thought, if you.. think about it.
That's why it's a technique, not some "i unlocked my chakra points so the fox demon sealed in me can be unleashed! "
@@naufalmEZa no that’s a complete lie spoken by somebody who has no clue removal isn’t activated by thoughts there’s another trigger for it it’s closer to what you said in the second part than thoughts lol
Let me explain Advance and Removal from my perspective.
For Advance, whenever your heart rate increases, more blood circulates around your body and brain. It gives you an Adrenaline Rush. You get a tremendous drive to go through anything and anyone. It basically gives you inhumane power. Your surrounding world seems slower as your blood circulation increased and you get better control over motor neurons and nerve-senses. Your metabolism rate hits the sky. You get a pumped up doze of sudden strength in your blood-stream. You can increase your strength and speed and reaction time via Advance. So, Advance mainly makes you superpowered. That's why Ohma Tokita got faster in the second round.
On the other hand, For Removal, it unleashes power from your brain and you overcome all the limitations of your brain. Think about all the limitations you can face as a fighter. You can get fatigued, you can wear down because of pain, you get numb body parts, you lack mental strength which is a great weapon for you in a fight, you can have hyper-sensitive body hits that can make an impact on your performances. Once you overcome all those limitations, you just become a killing-machine. Cause, you have no weakness as a normal person would have. There's nothing that can stop you from the action until you completely break-down from inside. So, removal technique literally makes you a beast and superhuman. That's what happened for Kure Raian. He got defeated once his neck snapped from the repeated shots from Ohma Tokita. Until that, he was a BEAST.
advance is increasing the heart rate to pump more blood around your body and thereby increase the your metabolic rate, so not quite a adrenaline rush as I'm not sure that can increase your metabolism.
Removal, well, removes the brains "limiter". The limiter keeps you from using most of your bodies hidden strength unless in time of stress with adrenaline rushes allowing you to temporarily break your limiter somewhat, however removal doesn't require the use of adrenaline to break through the limiter as they can consciously remove their limiter, allowing them to unlock their hidden strength.
Theirs also the side affects of using the Advance. The Removal is stronger but if we’re talking about our side people using it then the Advance would be the thing to have
Despite the removal being powerful a normal person can use it but they’d have to be a one in a million like lu tian in order to not die as for the advance you only gotta worry about the output you use and how much strain on your heart and blood vessels . So outta the both of em goin with my boy ohmas possessing spirt 🔥🔥
Using advance is like switching from throwing a bullet with your hand to shooting it as an ammo for a gun while removal are endorphins that boosts your overall performance.
Y'all just getting this information from Baki I swear 😂 it doesn't work that way compared to endorphins removal is like 5x better
Removal is a thing in real life.
Eddie Hall imagines traumatic shit to boost his lifts. Historically, warriors go berserk, entering altered states of mind to fight wildly and more effectively.
Easy way to see it modern day is with druggies. A 130lb guy broke into the home of a heavyweight UFC fighter Anthony Smith, who said that it took all his power and skills just to stay even with the guy.
It’s a matter of psychology.
Yah👍 Even soldiers take druggies as well before they are sent into the battlefield. In order to eliminate "fear" from their minds. So that they won't have any hesitations that will compromise their performance and mission. They basically go berserk.
None of what you described is the removal technique
@@Kureclanit is removal by consciously removing the limiter of your brain which keep you from using mire than 30% of your muscle strength prolonged usage of removal will drive you insane
Crazy idea: REMOVAL x ADVANCE x FALLEN DEMON.
Super OP final form or instant death?
Both
For anyone other than Raian it would be instant death but I'll give 30 secs minimum 2 mins 30 at max
The person will be dead, and even if they are still alive they'll go insane from using Advance and Fallen Demon at the same time
Fei wangfang:excuse me
Well advance × fallen demon is what fei is using and it seems op for the time being so you aren't wrong lol
Me seeing my colorings on both the thumbnail and the video: My man! 😁👍
Oh that's yours, great stuff. I hope you don't mind be using it?
@@mysteriousweeb I don’t mind you using it 😉
Advance.. dealing with the heart
Removal.. dealing with the brain
What will happen if combined both 🤔
Cocaine?😂
You will turn into a heartless braindead monster
Even lu tian lost his sanity after using removal
Add the Formless style while you're at it, so that you'll have a very bright smile while you are glowing red and purple at the same time😆
@@misasa2176 because he couldn't control it so Lu Tian hulked out and took the L
advances overclocks the hearts speed rate to pump more blood around the body to boost their metabolic rate, thereby increasing speed and torque.
Removal, well, removes the brains limiter on how much of the bodies strength you can use to allow you to use greater strength, so while the average person can use 25-30% of their bodies strength without the use of adrenaline, removal allows the user to use all the way up to 100% of the bodies strength.
Ohma's Advance has 3 gears to it the first increasing his speed without causing much damage by kengan omega the second gear begins to cause damage to the blood vessels the third gear greatly increases speed causing damage to the blood vessels and heart leading to audio and visual hallucinations
Well to those asking. If a Kure clan member used advance, they would be completely fine. They can already handle the Removal without any consequence, and since they are familiar with Removal, the similar concept of advance would be easy for them to control. It would pretty much have no drawbacks.
Now an ordinary person would have live 1 minute to live
Edit: I was so wrong on this comment. While it's true that removal and advance are similar using both would be bad for anybody. However like that one fighter if you use a small percentage of both it would work
Love your videos,I watch every single one ,really appreciate you, you are the true tigers vessel
i mean i would rather go crazy for a few minutes and get some injuries from my body ripping itself apart while using the Removal, than die of cardiac arrest ten seconds after using the Advance
I think removal is more dangerous when you consider lu tian, a 1 in a million prodigy, using it went berserk and was having strain from it.
Your body would likely destroy itself, crippling you.
Well, now we know that there is also Niko style: Fallen Demon. And Fallen Demon combined with Advance = Divine Demon. Also the Connector has Divine Demon+ 100% Superman Sindrom+ Full muscles controll ( like Julius)
Shen wulong (the connector) will probably have mastered advance stage 3.
Discount gear 2 from one piece vs discount Ashura mode from Ashura's wrath.
The removal is better, because it makes your skin purple!
The other one makes ur skin red
@@jakereis1491 you can already make your skin red
@@ishthefish1st
Ya just laydown in the sun for like a hour or more
Freaking thanos moments
Anybody can make the skin red, but anyone that can make your skin purple Is a “mad lad giga chad”
I'd say he would at least be 2.5 times faster in round 2, maybe even three times faster.
Removal is better since it doesn't damage you if you've been selectively bred but tbh for the average fighter both are very destructive.
They need to finish Kengan Ashura on netflix, and get to work on Kengan Omega.
Yesss. Though, a shame there are a lot of scenes in the manga that they did not include on the anime adaptation.
fact: the reason why ohma eyes turned into like the kure familiy is cuz hes using removal and advance together i knew it because gaoh makuka uses advance and removal together hes the one who created the niko style i think he adopted niko and niko adopted ohma
gaoh mukako has never shown to be able to use advance nor removal, and tiger niko is the one stated to have created advance, and ohma only used advance.
If Ohma didn’t learn removal in those two years then he might’ve learned a secret Technique we haven’t seen before.
Wtf he’s not Kure by blood so he can’t get removal but he knows Kure fighting style.
If removal used a lot of stamina and advance increase heart rate, then its possible to have an unlimited removal because the blood will give more oxygen to the muscle
Are we conveniently forgetting about lactate thresholds?
Both makes you stronger but it kills you if your are not a kure member and tokita student
Ok so short and sweet of it Advance is a Super Charge while Removal is literally opening the gates of Superhuman potential
It could be that when Ohma was using the advance the spirit was talking about releasing more power (am talking about the manga)
Thats why Raian said he got faster
Or when his eyes change probably that could be a power up
Just a theory, using removal 1% and then training it to 100% as a normal person is possible due to every human having adaptive capabilities.
Removal should also affect the heart rate, all that blood is necessary to pump the muscles and increase the physical strength. If Advance has a drawback, Removal should have even more drawbacks.
its just unlocking the repressed strength that the brains limiter holds back from using.
It doesn’t affect the heart it’s not necessary
6:55 it would make sense for it to increase durability that depends on muscles, so for example a lowkick targets the leg muscles and if you flex them that lessens the effect so removal allowing you to flex them harder would probably make them hit less hard. even against headshots having stronger neck muscles to stop your head from moving as much could help however for stuff like a kick to the ribs where it's bones being targeted or if your shins are getting hurt or for a broken nose it shouldn't do anything. I could see anime logic having it increase durability in those last cases anyway though.
Not sure if it was mentioned before but imagine advanced removal. A combo of both. Would be interesting.
Much faster and physically stronger at that point. But later on they'll just burst after lol
I see them as relative more so impressive for the advance as how it only increases speed while the removal at 100% is an overall increase by 3x i think.
So r2 ohma at the strongest we’ve seen the advance be is able to at the very least keep up and even exhaust 100% raian with no techniques imo there relative with the advance being more so usable by “anyone” while the removal you’d need the special kure/wu body to use it effectively without killing yourself because of backlash
it increases speed and torque, which as a side effect produces more power, but I get your point.
@mysteriousweeb
I've taken note of the case with huiseng. It's literally all connected. Going back to chapter 96 in kengen and the reveal of edward wu... and his connection to tiger niko. Now after we have said setsuna vs tiger, and akoya, willem wu and raian fight again. This raian is different and the crazy reveal of otakemaru is fireeeee... i think raian is like the connecter, makaku in the fact of having in human pain tolerance. What if otakemaru can light on fire, and thats the reason its weighted and raian can deal with the pain because he's top of the verse and theory.... what if rikito kure is raians father and his uncle was Edward. Alan possibility had superman syndrome along with guihun... but i think guihun is different from removal... slightly. Raians removal is perfected... and i think hes the one who taught ohma how use his advance in burst. I think raian is like his big brother quite literally
Can you imagine ohmas and karlas kid with indestructible on? It would be the tankiest character
This brings a whole new meaning to follow your heart and listen to your brain
All fun and games until Raian mixes Advance with Removal
Advance remind me of mitsuomi situation in tenuous tenge. His heart beating faster speed giving him power boost. But he can’t use it for long. Probably I think it was 3 minutes
Gau looks kinda sick with the Advance
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I almost thought Ohma was apart Rain’s Family after his eyes changed😅
Advance remind me of kaioken
kaioken of goku reminds me
If the Advanced increases the velocity wouldn't that be much better then fallen demon for Kiryu Setsuna
? Imagine him like twice as fast he would be so much stronger
I think he probably only learned fallen demon.
Fallen demon places far less strain on the body than advance but far more strain on the brain.
however kiryu used a imperfect fallen demon.
A perfected fallen demon would be fei wangfangs since he can combine it with advance.
Advanced is stronger than removal imo. Base Raian is much much stronger than base Ohma, or at least round 2 Ohma, yet Advanced Ohma was just a little weaker if not even with Removal Raian, who has by far the strongest possible Removal.
Ohma is stronger than Raian right now, but beat Raian when is Stronger than him
@@raulachimet6293 Nope, in Omega Ohma admitted that Raian is stronger than him.
@@dontlikethiscomment where lol
Advance is faster,Removel is tough and stronger.
Nah both r similar just da way of using it is diff
They both increase your speed and power, the advance achieves it by increasing your heart rate, while the removel removes the limiter in your brain. None of them effect how tough you are
@@pen8862 yup both r similar plus ohma's output of advance on his final round with Raian when dey got all out it was around 96 to 98%
Does kazy have the same power as king from opm?
Yeah sure thing...even lolong and terashi admitted it
If Ohma and Karura gets married and have a baby, that baby might have the potential to use Advance and Removal at the same time but who knows.
Doesn't matter about latent power, you saw it yourself in the fight that when they both unleashed their forms Ohma was just as strong as Raian after getting stomped in base power. That says a lot about how much of a boost Advance gives you
Example:
Meaning
Raians base power: 100
Raian after transformation: 159
Ohma Base power: 78
Ohma after transformation: 150-157
And my point is, is that Advance makes you stronger than removal. If Raian had Advance instead of removal he'd be so fricking strong.
Edit: My point is proven even further when you know that Raian is using 100% removal and Ohma is still equal to him
if base raian is 100 then transformed raian should be roughly 3.33x that due to 100% removal unlocking 70% of his hidden strength, as his base form can only use 30%.
So here are better numbers:
base raian: 60
removal raian: 200
base ohma: 30
advance ohma stage 1: 60 (he was equaling base raian)
Advance ohma stage 2: 120 (raian stated he was 2x as fast)
Advance ohma stage 3: 190 (equaling removal raian)
We have to take into account that Raian was playing around and wanted the fight to last as long as possible
@@chineseducksauce9085dude he wasn’t playing around he was going full power in fist fight when it was saying he was playing around they meant in him not using any techniques not a single Kure clan technique just brawling.
Basically Ohma is using Kaioken from DBZ, it literally has the same effects and drawbacks
Imagine karlas and ohmas kid having both
Many thanks love ur work bro
Removal is much better imo.
As far as we know .. it has no drawbacks as long as a kure uses it.
It gives u a better boost since its overall stats
Meanwhilr the advance damages you and only.boosts your speed
Advance is better if u average joe
Removal is superior if u a kure
And thatz the thing.......we aint kure
@@frankystein9704 sadge
Ohma seems to master it and no longer suffer heart damage
@@DDATheboss maybe. But the only time in omega he uses it its the weakest version of advance with the least output. So we still dont know. And there should be no reason to believe now it doesnt damage his heart. It should still affect his health thats why its a bad transformation
Well, to be fair, the removal does put a strain on your stamina, so that kinda counts as a drawback.
The advance is easier for normal people to achieve but harder and deadlier to control a while. The removal is easier to control , but harder to achieve.
Why would any removal user wanna use advance ? Advance is scuffed technique created in attempt to stand against the kure as niko said
Advance is basically what would happen to a real person who used Luffy’s gear 2nd
Removal is better if the user is a kure and has a high release rate
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Advance is like Kaio-Ken and Removal is like Super Saiyan
speed is power so the faster you punch the harder it hits so Id want the advance
So You telling Me, if I can make My Heart Pump Faster, I can literally use Advance?
but strokes later
...but i wonder why did tiger niko asked Edward to teach him removal if he already had advance to his grip..and Edward also said that it will take million in one chance to work effectively (because it strains emmesly on users body which is similar to advance).. I am bit confused ??why didn't tiger niko tough advance to His one in one million bet..
Because he developed the advance later on, my guess is that he took some ideas from the removal and created his own version of removal which is the advance
AdvanceXDemonsbane Rolls Kure Raian
If ashura sure.
I've just watched this on Netflix n loved don't know any of thete name but the mad man who gose purple is the stronger fighter by far. And the fact le loves getting hurt well that says it all for me but we know he won't win but if it was real no one would last 10 seconds with that guy he's a beast
Advance is like drinking 50 Red Bulls you get hype.you get fast don’t get winded also get heart issue as 50 Red Bulls should
Removal is literally a hobos crack boost
To me The Advance is more powerful and the technique significantly increases the strength, speed, durability and power of the individual. The Removal is a technique that depends on the latent ability of the person and the limiter. So unless you are able to use atleast above 50 to nearly 100 o 100% of The Removal would it be beneficial of use over base form and as long as you have a strong base form and huge limit Removal then only can it be as powerful or more powerful or go par with The Advance. We also know that the ones who can use The Removal to the highest extent or limit are selectively bred but others also can use but to not to that degree. So the Advance is powerful and better I believe as it was mainly created to counter The Removal as Removal depends on the persons limiter. In the Long Run, might I add The Advance does cause blood vessel damage to the user leading to the death which I believe the Removal doesnt cause such harm. So, in that case The Removal is better for longevity if its true. Apart from that The Advance uses the Heart and The Removal uses the brain so if someone uses both that would be insane and cause death. If it werent for the blood vessel damage The Advance is the more powerful technique unless Removal user has a higher limiter.
If ohma has a kid with karla god damn that kid is going to be a fucking monster, karla has 96% removal and ohmas advance, that kid is going to be fucking baki levels of being broken
imagine learning and using both techniques
I just realised advance is basically second gear
Imagine Baki with the advance
He basically can do what Lucy can do in gear two accept ohma isn’t made of rubber
Advance - gear 2nd luffy
Removal - jin mori limiter removal
Good break down. 👏
Tbh i wpuld like to see these get compaired to demon back from baki
Imagine an Advanced removal it's possible
who’s here after seeing baki vs kengan new netflix show coming 😅
Removal has no limits 100% is just an number
Thats not how math works, you cant make yourself stronger than your strongest point. 101% doesnt exist
@@traine4126 lol
Imagine Removal + Advance
Would be too much for the body to handle
@@neatpicky3925 I think Julius could be able to handle it
Wait to later in the video ;)
@@metassuwanavanit9916 Most likely,and maybe Waka
@@mysteriousweeb just saw it
What about fallen demon?
To me removal is more dangerous than advance because you have to be kure otherwise you just fuck yourself over but advance can make faster but just harms your heart overtime
Such a great anime brought to life in Netflix. Such a shame what happens in the manga. Maybe the anime will be different since their hyping ohma up.
What if yujiro learned the advance or removal? Lol Jokes aside he would learn it in instantly and he whould not have any side effect since his body is beyond op.
He would have no uses for either technique with his demon back, how much more output can he supply. How would anyone tell the difference; its true no one in Baki can force his best then last long enough for him to reveal this hidden gem.
@@justinmcdonald2072 lmao true, i think he is so op that neither removal or advance will give him a boost.
Why do you bring baki in every kengan video
Seriously just stop
@@hahnoob6658 I don't lol wtf is your problem dude calm down lol
@@alexakos1223 i am kalm
I no panik...
this video needs an update for sure...
Can Humanity Possibly Do The Removal and Advance??
Our bodies limit the strength output to protect our bones from shattering, muscles from ripping apart and tendons from detaching.
Our hearts are subconsciously controlled by our brain, regulating output to appropriately provide the necessary energy to maintain "not-dying."
Removal disables the brain's strength limiter while Advance overrides heart control.
Removal won't help much if your heart can't supply the extra blood needed to maintain the extra power. Weak bodies also not recommended. Strong heart and good genes required.
Advance does nothing for normal people besides Tachycardia induced heart failure. It also won't help if your body can't handle the increased strength. Strong heart and good genes required.
The techniques are same-same, but have different priorities.
If you're a normal dude:
-Removal will break your body.
-Advance will kill you.
If you train your body:
-Removal will give you more power, but you'll faint after a few seconds of use.
-Advance will still kill you, but hey instant power.
If you're a Kure:
-You'll be fine.
-Lucky b*stard.
You know nothing removal has nothing to do with the heart and if your genes can handle it you don’t get affected from using it
Gaolang with advance is cursed 😆
Removal = 1st gate of Might Guy.
where can I get the manga comics?
could you use both at the same time?
removal and possesed by a god look like the same move to me, i like how you put the photo showing how much brain activity they have using them. i'm too old for that stuff now. advice for those who wanna be fighters, when u get possesed by the god, dont do anything stupid, its power can be overwelming, which is why its called possession, and causes people to go crazy when the god is active, its a schizophrenia thing, split mind/ split reality. the change in biology and psychology can be good, but instalibility isnt, so snap out of of it as fast as u can, people go to prison even if god makes them do it and u cant point fingers to him so noone sees him.