SHEN WULONG VS YUJIRO HANMA | HOW STRONG ARE THEY?
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The Hanma family would stop at nothing to find the strongest in kengan Ashura NO REALLY THEY WILL FIND A WAY 😅
Yo Mysterious weeb can you do shen wulong defeat the god hand from berserk
@@Julian.noa21 That's a slaughter bro... 💀
My question this new perspective on the character's power from Kangen Ashura versus the baki verse? Would you change who you'd win
Mad lad❤
I thought baki was crazy and kengan was the realistic series. This man shen literally just stopped breathing so he wouldn't get old
"Yo check this out if I tell you my life story my soul will be imprinted on yours and thus when I die I can go into your body"
even in ashura during the annihilation tournament its not at all realistic. But to keep things interesting the authors have to hype their characters leading to more and more impressive feats
@@milos8024 Sandrovitch didn't even bother to do the classic 3D model physics explanation anymore. Straight up Wuxia at this point.
@@milos8024are you expecting realism? The series would be boring as hell, like watching a real boxing match, fucking eww.
@@terrelldurocher3330 You clearly haven't watched proper boxing. Anyways it's not as interesting as MMA. That much we can agree.
Didnt know Kengan Omega was as schizophrenic and weird as Baki
Yeah, people can't really say this is realistic anymore 😂
Wasn't until the author had the briliant idea of create his own trash non sense character. I hope he get ride of him soon enough
Not as ridiculous as baki but yeah
It's slowly getting there
Nowadays Kenyan feels like a beautifully roundabout Baki
They ain't even gonna fight, Shen is just too chill. They are gonna get themselves some drinks and discuss martial arts
In character, Shen is chill af but Yujiro is always looking for a stronger opponent to defeat so it's hard to say if Yujiro would hang with him before any fight (he fought Musashi, and then they kinda hanged together in the city. Maybe something like that is more likely)
Yujiro would want to throw hands just cause.
If you want friends in baki you need to fight
I agree that if Yujiro thinks you will challenge him, he will fight. Look at Pickle the man can't even talk and Yujiro wanted to test his strength @@luckydust4375
I think yujiro is fighting him regardless of how likable he is his, they might get drinks but they will be fighting yujiro wouldn’t be able to help himself
I think on a personal level, Yujiro would definitely want to kill Shen. He's essentially an affront to everything Yujiro is. A person so petrified of death that he would turn his decendents into mindless puppets. Only becoming as strong as he is through living so long instead of growing through constant combat.
Yujiro in contrast has climbed to the top on his own in a relatively very short time. Sacrificing everything to do so. A man who trusts that his sons would both rival and maybe one day surpass him (he is by no means a good father but would never want them to be mere copies of himself).
I think because of this fact, Yujiro would break Shen mentally before doing so physically.
Or Yujiro would be enraged like when Ali Junior (I hope i write name right) make Yuji so angry he shake entire building.
edit:*Yujiro angry (Sorry i wrie that wrong on accident
Edit:*write
For shen, Yujiro is a young strong kid.
I don't think yujiro struggled to become strong. He was Born strong
For as much as I am a Kengan fan I still think Yujiro has the slight edge in this fight, but I can't help but see that edge getting smaller and smaller with every new Kengan chapter we get
If he can react to bullets it's not even close. Yujiro couldn't even react to Baki's jab
The Hanma family would stop at nothing to find the strongest in kengan Ashura NO REALLY THEY WILL FIND A WAY 😅
@@venomshot2815baki’s jabs are faster than bullets 🤦♂️ and yujiro’s physicality is waaahyh above shen and since yujiro can copy skills ipon seeing them he can copy Shen’s “principles” and use that with his superior body, effectively surpassing shen
@@lebruhjames9007 your brain must not work much. Bullets are hypersonic and the only way to reach hypersonic speeds for those characters is by imagining joints, and if that happens their hand gets destroyed and there's a visible shockwave. Neither of those happened with the Baki jab. It was 100kph if we highball
@@venomshot2815 yujiro literally dodged lightning
We all know waka didn’t shake the mountain. 2 people at his level of his power clashing at full power didn’t do anything close to it. Literally no one, including Ohma, Agito, or Rolon commented on this “godlike punch”. and how exact would punching Fei (who is using Water Kata), in the middle of the stadium even do that?
This. Yujiro stopping an earthquake is questioneble, some saying it aint canon, but the fact that he could one shot every character in Baki if he was really serious proves that. Alot of anime training and punching rocks are just to show off that they are insane. Not that they actually have the power to do so in a real fight.
@floppa731 not this, back to earthquake feat, I hate it and I hate mountain shaking example cause both are fucking stupid. Like does anyone realize what power output is needed to do both of those things? Like video mentions kiloton of tnt, like do you know what happens when someone gets hit with that? No one going to survive it, so like how is yujiro not creating db level shock waves with punches and not one shooting everyone to instant evaporation? Even if you say he held back, like not every time? Recall his fight vs old Chinese dude? He flexed some of his attacks to extreme and at most it just did just destroyed parts of the arena. Also he hit baki fully serious and baki survived, so this would make baki invincible to everyone else, which is not the case, he still gets hurt. You could also make argument that every character in baki is low dragon balls level so they can tank explosions and etc but that's early not the case, we saw what happened to doppos face and we saw bullets do normal damage despite claims of people being able to tank shotguns. Goofy ass show.
I'll say Yujiro he has the earthquake feat but has gotten far stronger since then going from high diff win against doppo (needing the demon back) to low - mid diff against a dinosaur sized African elephant (not using the demon back) and we have far more examples for Yujiro thanks to him and the baki series being around longer. The connector may scale above everyone but they haven't shown the same level of skill or power as baki yet most of there feats come from a hand full of characters in comparison to baki where many characters have reached the high tiers of power.
The Hanma family would stop at nothing to find the strongest in kengan Ashura NO REALLY THEY WILL FIND A WAY 😅
That feat is bullshit dude
@@packwolvegaming5030 DOESNT MATTER
@@bandzhanma526it is the earth quake yujiro stopped ain't shit, didn't destroy a single building and that feat is kinda debatable whether yujiro actually stopped it or if he just punched the ground at the same time it stopped
It should be mentioned that people like Wakatsuki shredded titanium by ACCIDENT when he was seven years old, and his strikes, along with Julius’, register as small-medium scale earthquakes. Other calcs put them at City-Multi Block level, compared to Musashi and Yujiro’s Town+. The Bakiverse, however, is way faster, but Kengan’s prediction abilities are OP.
If we scale Shen above Waka and Julius (which he likely is), then I can see him pushing Yujiro to Demon Back, but stopping there. It’s kind of hard to say because we don’t know what the full extent of his power is compared to Yujiro. We do know however, that via Shen’s own accounts (anyone could do what he does according to him if they knew the “principles”), he’s largely technique oriented than raw strength, similar to Kaku Kaioh or Kuroki.
Shen is no doubt a genius, but he mastered all of his skills through time(isn't he like 1000 years old?). While at this time in baki yugiro can almost instantly master any technique and even surpass the original user just by watching them use it once. I wouldn't be surprised if he could simply master all of shin's techniques as they fought then outpase shin. Similar to when he fought kaku.
only yujiro and baki can copy his, i think yujiro can pull it off since he's more experienced with it
W VID! Really enjoy these longer videos.
I'm going to go with Yujiro considering it's been stated that he gets stronger every moment as well as the fact that he can instantly master any martial arts he sees Shen is clearly a copy of Yujiro this is basically one of those weird Kengan copies Baki moments with how ridiculous they can make their fighters but you know there are still people out there that think the brats from Tokyo revengers as well as lookism can take on these two Titans of combat.
Shen is not a copy of yujiro lol, every single anime have their own "strongest" that seems invincible, baki has yujiro, kengan has shen, opm has saitama, hxh mereum/nanika and the list goes on
@@josephthompson4564 an anime does NOT need a character that cant be beaten by any combination of the other ones
@@patrikrathan8705 It doesn't need it but there is no reason not to have it. And ngl Shen's character is better
@@josephthompson4564true
@@josephthompson4564 that's true
The Jab scene in Baki had Yujiro specifically say the jab is the only one with a name that actually is accurate, so make of that what you will
Yujiro wins low diff, because i dont see she wulong having a ramen add where he is dressed up as a tailed fox!
He doesn't win low diff its high to extreme and it can go either way depends on who goes all out first
Remember Edward was already in his advance form so his heart was pumping faster and the blood was travelling much faster so we through out the body so the poison meant to kill someone was travelling much faster in him than in a normal human being ..n also the blood loss due to the injury as well..n prime erioh would still only be relevant to Edward at best…all fighters will believe they r superior to their opponent , that’s the fighting spirit
Edward doesn’t use the advance dumbass he uses the removal. Those are both different
Eddie Clearly was broken nd den Fei
Edward used removal, not advance...
@@SymplokianoYou know what he meant book worm
It's too soon for me to tell, Shen may be just one idea of the strongest there could be others who don't stand out, he for one did not let himself be known of. Won't downplay Shen he has not gotten the chance to show his full capability just the fear of it being used and how powerful he is when he personally handicap's. He knows eccentric body techniques and uses them flawlessly.
Yujiro is also the type to know obscure techniques, boils major techniques down to useless measures when your strong, far too strong to be opposed he won't be seen doing a lot, he just does not need to.
I think the world of Kengan is not afraid to have a world that challenges the strongest individuals ideas, and expression of personal superiority, for the same to say have I achieved all that is possible. Yujiro's world in Baki won't question it so those people won't exist only a handful of abnormal will try but won't challenge Yujiro to his level of ideals, the masses have already he is the strongest, the father and son battle is all that can contest him.
Shen can embody more between the two based on the world ceiling.
Embody more such as?
I believe the current Wulong has gray hair, not blonde, at this point. Having previous him probably in his 30s-40s when Mukaku was in his teenager, and current Mukaku was 100, after quick math he’d be in his 70s-80s in his final incarnation. Also I don’t believe Wulong would let himself get too old when he can always access cloning and huisheng.
Since breathing tecnique made Wolong have a super body, imagine if the tecnique that surpasses the pre initiative his opponent's use is to know what neural message his opponent's brain sends when attacking, and this seems to make him see farther
From Pre-Initiative technique
How can you accurately scale Shen when all he has done so far in the manga is slap people.
Because the people who he slap is extremely strong fighters and he's far above them
@@thefirstprime0124 I'm just trynna say that we don't have the full story yet and he's inevitably gonna get way more feats in the future.
@@someguy4405 ohh Okay then My bad
@thefirstprime0124 that he does and so does Yujirro, honestly what I read they're OP status is simular, just different personalities
@@Guile1117 yea exactly kengan and The Baki verse is around the same strength now
The difference between Shen and Yujiro is that
Shen built his body for thousands of years just to get to his current strength
While Yujiro was born with it
This is the comment I was searching. And I doubt if those two Fought Yujiro would somehow manage to copy Shen Wulong Technique's easily and Yujiro would become much more Stronger and Stronger.
@@screamingcat7543how would yujiro copy shen u all are just dumb jeez 😂😂😂😂
@@vinsmokedshepherd1 Yujiro has easily Copied Kaku Kaioh Technique Xiaoli that Kaku Kaioh have Mastered for almost 100 years and Yujiro has easily Mastered it by just looking at the Technique Kaku Kaioh used. Further more I would Change my Expectations if Shen Wulong would and would Appear in Battle Against Ohma but for now Yujiro is still Broken of a Character.
@@vinsmokedshepherd1what do you mean how? Yujiro has already proven to copy any technique just by seeing the technique I mean he has the ability to X-ray vision people bodies and find weaknesses so all he has to do is watch Shen fight him, Yujiro would have to be blinded to not be able to copy Shen
@@therevanchist2888 and u think shen is someone he can copy ....its just logic....shen is above yujiro that's a fact
In my opinion, the win tips to yujiro's favor because in previous fights we have seen him cookin everyone in the baki siries, he can literally copy every move shen throws at him
Yujiro had a lowkey trouble with Kaioh Kaku who is 146 years old, he did win via straight up brute strength. Now Imagine 1300 years of martial art knowledge, experience and unlike Kaioh Kaku, the connector is arguably still at his "peak body". For me it's the connector who will win BUT the most ICONIC is still Yujiro
Just keep note that kaku vs yujiro occurred in the manga before 2005
that doesnt really matter tf, when Shen is massively outscaled
Yujiro did not use brute force because it was the only way to win, he used it because he thought he doesn't need anything else to win. He is a master of every martial art in the world and even showed that during the kaku kaioh fight when he used Shaori just to show off.
@@ovidiucosmin6171 Facts, Yujiro literally copied Shaori easily but just disregarded after like using it once? (I think he used it once I dont remember)
Yujiro has extreme skill in martial arts, but he doesn't want to use them, as he likes using brute force instead. He proved to be able to use Kaioh Kaku's signature technique and further mocked him by doing the complete opposite and using that to win (At least making Kaioh Kaku cheat himself out of the match via self-initiated clinical death)
Both of them will fight, they want an equal someone who can play with without hold back
and of course, Yujiro going treat to delicious place after fight since Shen Wulong basically a tourist in Japan.
i can't understate my excitement for this up coming netflix movie! I'm a huuuuuuge baki fan, but watching the kengan series of events unfold has certainly been something else. It's like watching a new born child just get hulk strong and you can't do anything but watch it grow stronger. I want to personally believe yujiro is just better but who knows what the case might be and what the case might be in the future.
With that said, i am very much looking forward to see everyone go all out on each other.
Yujiro wouldn't have it easy, Shen has the power of a nation's army just like Yujiro, it would be a good fight, my money would be on Yujiro, but yes I'm excited as well for the crossover
Didnt Yujiro get stuck by lightning while walking and just keep going like nothing happened?
Yes and it wasn't a regular bolt of lighting it was stated as if god itself wanted to kill yujiro but failed.
@@mr.laststand5566calm down bro that's wild
@@theonlychickensama8353that's actually stated in the manga. He ain't exaggerating
@@staarfinger7322 to bad the manga itself is an extagterion
@@l0sts0ul89 but it's not exaggerated God exist in baki and if the Manga artist wrote it in its not a metaphor or anything it's a STATEMENT OF STENGTH
Shen is the strongest because he understands the power of compliments and humbleness.
Unfortunately Yujiro is THAT guy
Yujiro is a spoiled kid in a flesh mech. A homelander of martial artd
nah Yujiro is a very smart guy with a lot of wisdom. Nothing like homelander@@Brightsonp
@@Brightsonp He is FAR from that. He just lives his own way. If you've actually read or watched Baki up to the Father-Son-Squarrel Arc, you'd know that there's a lot going on in his head that isn't visible from the outside. Aside from that which I won't spoil, he also is very cultured and worldly. He's been to every corner of the Earth and knows something about seemingly every culture there is, and has highly refined tastes when it comes to food and alcohol.
@@Brightsonpnah bro. Yujiro is like a force of reality, if you fight him and die, he didn’t kill you, you committed suicide
@@jordanwilliams2557 💀💀
Shen is hard to tell where he stands but I would at least say he can beat the 16 year old yujiro who is nowhere near the level of current Yujiro but still dominated everybody he faced
He can equal current yujior included.
@@Grunt09Bloodclat until yujiro copies everything he can and master it even better than him. All of that in a blink of an eye. Plus his superior speed, strength, pain tolerance, durability and everything else. Plus we never saw Yujiro going all out and cant even fathom his limits, if there are limits that is
@@patrickstar5099 We never saw Shen go all out either. In both of his main fights, Shen had actively nerfed himself, whether it'd be only using one side of his body against Kuroki or directly nerfing most of his body's functions against Gaoh. Even then, Gaoh got absolutely dogwalked and Kuroki could only hurt Shen via counters. He's likely the most skilled character in all of Kengan, to the point of having the gall to claim Kuroki _only_ made it to pre-initiative (the highest level of foresight as known in the current day), which is supported by him having at least 1300 years worth of skill and experience that is/may as well be entirely personal.
This man is unironically a Baki character that Roronoa Zoro'd his way into the Kengan verse. Bro's clapping up the top-tiers of his verse with what he considers to be the bare essentials of martial arts, I _dread to imagine_ what him using "actual techniques" looks like.
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 as you said, shen is a martial arts master. If ohma and shens bodily stats are almost the same, then yujiro gon dogwalk shen, if he copies him. Its a simple as that. Think about it like that. Yujiro can kill ohma with a punch. Ohma doesnt have the durability to tank yujiro. Now what happens, when yujiro copies shen? Yujiro can and will copy shen. Then shen gets dogwalked. Thats it.
@@patrickstar5099Kengan fans are such copers it’s boring to have to help these losers cope.
Im just thinking about this, but there's a way for the Kengan Association to beat Shen 100%.
They asked for a kengan match, you can't kill anymore in a kengan match or you lose, they can just send Hayami to fight him, he can fight till he dies and it can be gg.
Nah he gets clapped
You can still kill, as long as there was no outside interference, but purgatory rules you can't kill at all
A very good video and analysis. However, you got one thing wrong. Shen Wulong, is actually (psychologically) 5,000 years old.
In Chapter 254, Wulong describes how he taught the Huisheng technique to Wu Hei, and Wu Hei appeared over 5,000 years ago. With this, it’s essentially confirmed that Wulong has lived (psychologically) for 5000+ years.
@@11338325 indeed, mentioned that in future vids. This was made before that reveal
I do believe that Kengan characters can match up to Baki characters.
ye I think people underestimate kengan compared to baki
@@diogoo_2977 More like overestimate.
At least Hanayama & Oliva & Doppo levels.
I would say that top top kengan verse is below baki and above guys like Pickle, Jack etc maybe musashi. And that Shen wulong in baki level@@saintsinningsword
Pickle fought an killed dinosaurs please make sense@@diogoo_2977
Facing Shen Wulong, Yujiro Hanma's "Demon's Back" and "Demon's Brain" would present a formidable challenge and interesting dynamics:
Yujiro Hanma's Demon's Back (Physical Strength):
- Advantages: Yujiro's immense physical strength and power from Demon's Back would allow him to deliver devastating strikes and overwhelm most opponents with sheer force. His punches and attacks could potentially cause significant damage even to agile and evasive opponents like Shen Wulong.
- Challenges: Shen Wulong's agility and speed would be critical in evading direct attacks from Yujiro. He would likely rely on his ability to maneuver around Yujiro's strikes and use his precise techniques to find openings in Yujiro's defense.
Yujiro Hanma's Demon's Brain (Tactical Intelligence):
- Advantages: Yujiro, known for his fighting instinct and adaptability, would likely possess a formidable tactical mind. His ability to read opponents and adjust his strategies mid-battle could prove effective against Shen Wulong's evasive tactics.
- Challenges: Shen Wulong's unpredictability and strategic thinking would challenge Yujiro's tactical approach. Shen Wulong's ability to analyze Yujiro's movements and exploit weaknesses could neutralize the advantage of tactical intelligence.
Shen Wulong's Approach Against Yujiro:
- Speed and Precision: Shen Wulong would focus on using his exceptional speed and precise strikes to evade Yujiro's attacks and wear him down gradually.
- Strategic Adaptation: Shen Wulong's ability to analyze and adapt to Yujiro's fighting style would be crucial. He would aim to disrupt Yujiro's rhythm, exploit openings, and gradually weaken him over the course of the fight.
Outcome:
- In a battle between Yujiro Hanma and Shen Wulong, the outcome would hinge on how effectively each fighter can utilize their strengths and exploit their opponent's weaknesses.
- Yujiro's raw physical power and instinctive combat abilities would pose a significant threat to Shen Wulong. However, Shen Wulong's agility, precision, and tactical acumen would allow him to potentially outmaneuver and counter Yujiro's overwhelming strength.
- Ultimately, the outcome would depend on factors such as strategy, adaptability, and the specific circumstances of their confrontation within the narrative of their respective series.
Both characters are depicted as elite fighters within their respective universes, making any encounter between them a clash of formidable martial prowess and strategic skill.
Yujiro is stronger on the simple basis that he is in his 40s and can copy any technique after seeing it while seeing all weaknesses. Shen is accumulated knowledge and power for a 1000 + years. Yet this is a discussion.
Una pelea entre estos dos monstruos, sin contenerse en lo mas minimo, seria tan o mas destructivo que el impacto de una bomba atómica
Kengan's around the level of Baki in terms of martial absurdity now. Shen is basically Kengan's Yujiro.
"Yujiro imagines being stronger then him"
It somehow works
I'm taking Yujiro on this one but I think it will be very close. He's like Saitama in the Bakiverse, constantly bored because he's not able to go all out with his opponents, even vs Baki in the father vs son fight, he was still not giving his 100%. so it's very possible that the earthquake feat was just a glimpse of his power.
The narrator explains that Yujiro does not believe in reincarnation, and so the Connector is unable to touch him.
The Chronicle of Baki states that the major event, in the first Baki vs Yujiro fight, is the Great Hanshin Earthquake that caused many deaths. This earthquake had a seismic magnitude of 7. This makes Yujiro Large Town level and at least Small City with Demon Back regarding its amplification.
A mag 7 earthquake can be felt throughout a state the size of Texas, he is country level just from that
@@jordanwilliams2557 Yujiro isn't stopping the total output of the earthquake. "Total" in that case refers to the very movement of the plates scraping together to release the earthquake. Yujiro stopped the shaking, aka a seismic wave, which would be 478 kilotons for magnitude 7.
Shen wulongs a baki character lost in the kengan verse, hed be somewhere around bakis level imo (which i believe is fair given the feats we have seen and heard about from exposition) but not yujiros. Could be proven otherwise but at this current moment hed be mollywhopped.
Not Baki, probs Jack or Pickle, doubt he'd be able to harm pickle though, so probably Jack, as for Yujiro, Baki and Musahi, they're leagues above Shen... 💀
@@derpibooruthecommenter1354😂😂😂
@@derpibooruthecommenter1354shen negs low diff
Shen def don't beat Musashi.
I didnt like shen wulong the first i saw him, but after a couple chapters he was way to funny and chill. He is me fr.
cringe
You ain’t got nuthin’ on him buddy, imma S tier hater.
BAKI VS KENGAN IS GOIN TO BE ANIMATED
i think we have seen a lot more of yujiro than the connector, we have seen much about the last so we cant know for sure his true power, he could very well be far stronger than yujiro or far weaker
Idk about far stronger but he could maybe rival him based on what we’ve seen
Far stronger yeah but far weaker lol no 😂😂
@@Oblivion-h2xYujiro is definitely far stronger than him lol😂😂😂
@@St.aymar29 baki fans never learn scaling
@@jacobferrer5294 The way to scale is to look at it objectively within both universes and in a mix between the two. In every way you possibly look at it, Yujiro is stronger than Shen - the only way Shen wins is by inventing some new law in his own universe.
By real standards, Yujiro would obviously also win, but that goes without saying.
Bro yujiro gonna put him in his pocket 😂
I mean they try to make Shen OP but it's not come to Yujiro in anyway I find.
Unlike BS of Baki they actually show them dodging bullets or explaining that modern weapons do not work on them.
baki literally dodges bullets in the prison arc
@@sinoxilurk4126wow! so both universes can dodge bullets such a wild observation
We see this happen dozens of times in Baki wtf is this glazing.
Kengan fans have equal brainrot just for a different series I swear.
@sinoxilurk4126 I think he dodged or more like moved faster than the movement of the gun, we never saw him dodge a flying bullet at him. Maybe I am wrong.
@Haispawner nah-nah, it is just baki fans disregard anything from not their fandom like warahmmer fans. I think both franchises are equal and have equal op characters
Ok listen here…. Yujiro has a undeniably better, stronger, tougher, faster body and superior biology compared to shen and since he’s a genius he can copy any skills upon seeing them just once, so yujiro upon seeing Shen’s abilities he just copied it and applied it to his inarguably superior body effectively surpassing shen in the process 🤷♂️
Finally someone said it so I didn't have to.
Who said Shen can’t do the same?
@@irizu5918 because he has a weaker inferior physique so even if he can copy yujiro’s martial arts he can’t copy his body so he will still be weaker to yujiro 🤦♂️
Lol Shen is basically the yujiro of his world on steroids. Yujiro is not having an easy fight no matter how strong your baki bias is based purely on his portrayal.
@@pspsmallz it’s sounds like you’re the one whose biased, where in my comment did i say any false statement? You’re argument didn’t even rebuke my words, yujiro is still physically superior to shen and don’t forget about the demon back too so him copying Shen’s abilities puts him even to him “technique” wise and since yujiro’s body is much much much stronger that’s puts him above shen. There you go you just made my point even clearer LMAO 🤣
Shen wulong is just too op. I mean the dude walked in the kengan HQ by cooking alot of folks and get in without being noticed except a handful of characters😳
Thing is, Yujiro is basically Shen, but Yujiro can *no joke* copy techniques he doesnt know with just using his eyes MID FIGHT. Fighting against shen would just make Yujiro unstoppeble
Shen/ the worm have a peace treaty signed with Yujiro
the thing is that shen is more of a mukaku type of figther since he isnt the strongest neither the fastest but has the best techniques and experience by far, having said that while that makes shen the strongest in his series by far, on baki mukaku barely breaks into the top 5 and that is simply because the strength , speed and durability of certain characters goes far beyond any martial arts not only that the current top 2 baki and yujiro both can replicate ANY techquine in the world by hving seen it 1 time. Shen is overpowered but hes just a top 10 in baki nothing more than that
I'd say that for now even if we high ball the both of them yujiro should have a slight edge over shen in AP/durability and speed while wulong is a bit more skilled in all honesty.
It'd be a good fight an extremely difficult fight for both but untill wulong pulls some insane feat like using a better version of Fei's divine demon he loses in the end more than he wins.
U ain't high balling I are just a fan boy cus baki has been around for a long time, shen solos this fodder and overrated character jeez
@@vinsmokedshepherd1 you are very cringe and delusional taking this stuff so serious haha. Also you lie too much.
Bro these two anime are crazy. I love it. I just wish there was a what if cross over with Fist of the north star. Just a what if
Shen Wulong is definitely top tier in Baki but Yujiro is Yujiro.
Anything shen could do, Yujiro can also do it since Yujiro not only existed for combat itself but has been blessed with a mind and body that was built for it
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I think people underestimate kengan characters compared to baki. Even more now with Kengan Omega, I think Kengan Omega new characters rank with baki top tiers.
They wildly underestimate Kengan characters. Even back in Kengan Ashura, the Kengan top tiers ranked up with the Baki top tiers. Someone like Kuroki Gensai counters every aspect of Biscuit Oliva and bodies him effortlessly. Anybody below the Hanmas is going to struggle with Rei's speed. Even Baki will struggle with Ohma and his redirection style. Baki is absolutely terrible against someone who can throw him around, and Ohma can do that as easily as breathing. The Baki characters arent dogwalking the Kengan characters, thats just the Stans never accepting facts
I would say that top top kengan verse is below baki and above guys like Pickle, Jack etc maybe musashi. And that Shen wulong is baki level
lol baki literally perceptions blitzes ohma. he casually was avoiding gunfire after the bullet leaves the gun 20 years. (which is stated as impossible in kengan including for top tiers) @@scottiecurrie7927
@scottiecurrie7927 seems like you're underestimating the Baki characters with that comment, but there's gonna be a movie let's see how a fight between Baki and Ohma go
@@Guile1117 It's going to be written to please the most amount of shareholders AKA try to piss off as few consumers as possible, it'll be a cool fight but both characters will be on perfectly equal playing fields regardless of powerscaling, watch me be right when it hits the shelves. And I think they're doing a crossover because both Baki and Kengan are starting to run on fumes, especially Baki, why else do you think they're doing a crossover? It's called the anime INDUSTRY not the anime "we make these just for you guys" business.
So no, it won't have any meaningful findings for powerscalers, it's there to please the masses (and shareholders), not the small minority who are there to pixel measure every blow and take every sentence literally to make sure their favourite characters are on top.
It would be an amazing fight but yujiro stomps 9/10. Until shen shows some utterly outrageous feats like Yujiro hes cooked.
By now I'm convinced Yujiro isn't human. He's a Viltrumite or something.
hes a demon
Thing about Shen is he has basically 5000 years old experience and training which means as he said too difference between him and ohma is pure skill not so much physical, thing about yujiro is he is like garou he can see one technique and instantly learn it and use it like a prodigy level that means longer the fight goes on between shen and yujiro gap widens and yujiro eventually returns to his usual cocky self with tons of new techniques.
Spoilers: The Strongest of the verse wins
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I bring this up any time I see this discussion because its a feat people dont often bring up. Yujiro in a position with zero leverage without demon back while being in Baki's signature submission used one arm and punched the ground creating a 20 foot crater.
Now I chalk it up to poor writing, but thats just an insane feat even for baki's goofy standards
I think Yujirro has way better durabillity
would be an absolutely insane fight, absolutely hilarious how ppl think baki characters would just destroy kengan characters . y’all needa read Kengan it’s WAYYY better than Baki . not saying Kengan characters would flat out beat Baki characters but the high tiers in Kengan would give the high tiers in Baki a HELL OF A FIGHT . and the top characters haven’t even fought each other yet
Lmao yujiro not messing around with bloodlust would murder the kengan verse. His feat is unstopable. He can stop an earthquake with a punch, walked like nothing happened while being hit a fcking LIGHTNING!
It was literally confirmed later on that yujiro never stopped an earthquake he just timed his punch.
where was that@@mcwaff8661
When? @@mcwaff8661
That Earthquake feat is a dud.
And tanking lightning isn't impressive.
@@pango4425 Real humans have survived lightning. Yujiro tanking it isn't even a feat
Yujiro getting angry made an entire building shook now imagine yujiro angrily fighting all out
They are both over 9000
They are both clapped by first series Roshi at once.
Don't take Saiyan Saga Goku to them if you want them alive.
@@ehhicotuzrobic8271 Cool story, I clapped your mom last night, pretty low diff too.
No yujiro is 43 year old
yujiro is 666,666,666,666,666,666,666
I don't know if the tremor in the mountain was really a tremor, think if the arena had shaken, the people who were there should have said something but no one even commented on it
Fun Video but cmon man you know Yujiro Low diffs the connector.
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Heres a thought to keep in mind, do you guys think the connector doesn't do much because hes not trying to draw attention to himself. And if thats the case who's attention is he not trying to catch.
it is like comparing all these feats from two series that doesn't make any sense lmao. I always thought that baki is way stronger than Kenyan verse, but now its starting to understand how Kengan isn't a series that is relatively realistic in any ways, it just demonstrates more explanation on things and martial arts. Feats like stopping earthquakes and shaking mountains and blocking bullets with hair and tanking a thunderbolt really shows that there is no limit of the scale, hence we can't really compare it anymore 😂
Nevertheless, I still believe that yujiro is stronger than Shen. Shen at the end of day is still human, he just masters various techniques and principles that makes me outclass everyone in the verse, he himself states that he doesn't have superhuman syndrome. Just because he knows principles doesn't make him stronger than wakatsuki. Meanwhile yujiro is just straight up inhuman consistently throughout the story with his Hanma blood. Yujiro always makes people think that he is having a high diff fight because he seems to struggle a little bit. But after using demon back, all of these fights just end easily, including his fight with baki at the end.
Everything Shen has done so far has been consistently inhuman too though. Dude is clearly the superhuman above other superhumans just like yujiro is in his own verse.
@@pspsmallz yes but I think his superhuman nature is coming from principles and extreme level of technique, like no breathing and holding a spear with two fingers. Basically very similar to kaku kaioh. That's just my assumption, cuz we don't really have too much explanation on his actual strength. But no matter how strong Shen technique or principle is, yujiro can tank all that by just standing there. But Im sure the writer is gonna show us how strong Shen actually is.
I still think Shen could put a fight, but Yujiros ability to adapt and get stronger the longer the fight plays out would be to much for him, even with his 1000 years of experience
Do they explain how they deal with huisheng progressively becoming a longer and longer process? Like say 80-100 years of story the first time around, to 1300 years currently?
The way they describe it nothing gets left out, and repeated ad infinitum until it replaces their own memory/personality.
How long does it take to tell the life story of 1300 years (in excruciating detail) just *once*? With it becoming longer you probably need more repetition for it to sink in as well…
Shen has literally no chance of surviving a fight against someone who’s said to have a punch stronger than a nuclear bomb, can dodge lightning and tank it, can stop an earthquake with a single punch without breaking a sweat, who’s stronger than his father who tanked multiple explosive warheads that destroyed the island he was on, can see your weak points, and can copy your techniques with ease. Yujiro easily claps Shen
Easily yeah sure
Yujiro earthquake feat has been disproven right?
The lighting feat is actually not that strong, since he has tanked stronger things, he didn't dodge the lighting, the predicted it
Shen so far has dwarves every Kengan character, this include those who managed to kill a whale underwater
@@alvinvalentino5797 no the earthquake feat was not disproven, ppl were tryna say it was a coincidence but that’s the most stupid argument ever especially when the earthquake ended almost as soon as it started. You’re right bout the tanking lightning feat, but even if yujiro predicted it he dodged it point blank, so not only can he predict the one of the most unpredictable phenomena known to man, but he dodged it just before it hit him, making it a above lightning speed feat. Also yes Shen does dwarf ever Kengan character but he hasn’t shown anything even near yujiro. I lowkey think he even gets beat by Baki cuz Baki has sound barrier breaking feats and shit and was able to damage yujiro. I think Shen is right under Baki maybe
@@alvinvalentino5797When was it disproven? Literally never. 😂
it aint even a competition, yujiro would just bitch slap him lol
Its too soon to judge as baki has been around for decades and the connector hasnt been in the spotlight enough ... Theconnector basicly laughs at pre innitiative and nerfs himself in fights so that he bring himself down to their level so obviously he is MUCH stronger then current discussed featsand much like the demon back/brain amplifier the connector might eventually have a perfected advance or something aswell that he could use. Not to mention that he has thousand of years of experience above yujiro that gives him and edge in fighting. That said at the current time with current feats yujiro wins lowdiff but in the future the rolls might reverse or atleast come closer.
I don’t know anything about this connecter guy but is quite exciting to think about him fighting yujiro
Edit after watching the video: holy shiet this dude is phuckin nutty
I think Shen Wulong realistically wins this one tbh. He has centuries of knowledge and experience in fighting. To prove this Shen Wulong In chapter 254 Claims he taught Wu Hei “Huisheng”. And that means since Wu Hei appeared around 5000 years ago according to chapter 95 of Kengan Omega, That means Shen Wulong is around 5000+ years old meaning he also has 5000+ years of knowledge and experience due to his many reincarnations of himself he’s had due to Huisheng. Who knows how many wars and battlefields and fights he’s been in compared to yujiro who is only around his late 30s. Shen also has an absurd control over his body making Gaoh Mukaku look like a joke even though he needed to nerf his own body to make the fight fair for Mukaku. Yujiro is not beating that monster.
Yet kuroki could go toe to toe to him both were holding back
Yeah.... Yujiro in the first manga out of more than 5 has been stated to have All knowledge of EVERY martial arts THAT has ever existed and DISCOVERED future techniques and unknown techniques.
>5000 years
man do u forget yujiro can copy all of that instantly...
if they fight yujiro will be stronger by copying instantly
remember when yujiro fought with that old chinese guy(forgot name) he copied his marital art instantly
@@hendsome_gui3617 Yes but if Yujiro doesn’t figure out how to deal with Shen Wulongs 5000 + years worth of techniques before he copies them he loses. Yujiro isnt all knowing, he didn’t even know what Shaori was and backed away from Kaku Kaioh.
I haven't read omega in like 2 yrs because the spotlight was just not on ohma anymore but i gotta get back into it, kinda a shame ohma is still not like top 5
It's gets back to him near the end
I think it's more reasonable that way. Not Ohma nor Koga have a lot of plot armor, which I like.
@@pango4425 that's true but i just feel like the power creep is reaching baki levels of ridiculous
@@r3ktfox146 Other than Shen I don't think the scaling is much higher than it was in Asura. Also it's been at least 4 years since then so makes sense the main characters would make some progress.
Ohma is like #6, #7 at lowest, rapidly creeping back into the top 5. By the time he fights Shen, he'll presumably be top 3, after Shen and Kuroki. 4 at worst, after Raian.
I'll be honest I don't think Shen can beat Yujiro
Fax
Lol
Yujiro is just that guy!!
Let me put it to you like this theyve both been shown to take dmg and hold back however only one has shown to have to put in effort to win a fight while the other was playing around.....one can take lightning but not a slap to the back and the other stopped stopped breathing to stop ageing....one still uses the term strength and techniques and martial arts while the other says its principles....weve seen the best from yujiro he just keeps growing is all but we haven't seen nowhere near the best from shen. I fck with yujiro heavy but anybody who dead ass says" ive nerfed myself to the extent that we equal in stats" and still low diffs me?!! Yeh shen got it.
Idk if Shen got it, but it seems it would be a interesting fight either way 🤔
This "Speed beyond the concept of speed it self" is a misunderstanding I guess..
Wasn't it so that it was stated because Baki could doge without noticeable movement?
This is literally what the current connector doing with omega and riuki🙂💔 i just realized that
For the plots sake shen would have to be weaker than yujiro cause he’s an antagonist. Don’t get me wrong yujiro is too but the way the Baki story is set up Yujiro will always be written to be at the top no matter what. In Shens case he’s just being built up as the giant mountain that ohma and Ryuki have to overcome. Shen will eventually be beat. Yujiro will never lose.🤷🏽♂️
Nah. Yujiro was scared shirtless of his father. Shen definitely isn't weaker than Yujiros dad.
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I think Shen’s gonna get the Meruem treatment, willingly or not.
Wish I could get into Kengan but the character designs and art style is just so unappealing to me compared to Baki
Really? That's interesting, normally hear the opposite. Definitely give kengan ashura a chance art wise until after the first quarter. Quality Amps up insanely for the remainder.
@@mysteriousweeb Maybe he thinks it looks too much like Attack on Titan or something. Once you gaze into the Baki art style abyss and the abyss stares back, there's no coming back.
the most interesting thing is that the scaling in VS BATTLE WIKI is not correct, the real force of Yujiro's blow is equal to the weight of a large island, but the point is, given the Isekai manga Retsu (yes, it is canon), there was one ogre who could destroy the WHOLE FOREST and Retsu said that he simply did not Yujiro's level, draw conclusions who is stronger
Bra 😂😂 be for real. This is jus for content. Ain't no way this fight close. Shen still gata b sneaky. He still can be injured by lesser opponents. We all know he will be defeated by the MC. Untill then Shen will beat up everyone else. Yujiro only loss when he decided not to end his Son. That's it. Literally nothing else has fazed The King. You'd be better off making a Shen vs Baki video since we have seen Baki Lose to multiple fighters already and while Baki still OP at least it isn't to a degree where he punching thru concrete absorbing lighting strikes or literally copying any move PERFECTLY upon seeing it one time..Yujiros cells grow stronger jus by existing. Man doesnt even need to train. My best example would be How Shen CLEARLY BACKED OFF due to the doctor having viruses in his body. WTF you think Yujiro would do in exact same situation? 😂😂😂. Yujiro could probably see exactly where the viruses are located and kill the doctor before they could even be activated. Or even if it was triggered. We alrdy know biological attacks cant work on Yujiro cause of his special body. Bra rly. Im geting hyped you would compare the two. Jus make a Baki vs shen and call this video a lil joke on the community 😂😂😂❤ still love ur content brotha!!
Honestly Yujiro could do everything you said
4:45 why he kinda look like baki on that top photo lol
Yujiro slams no need to drag the video out 😂
Just an FYI, 'Hyperbole' is pronounced "Hyper-Bull-ee" not "Hyper-Bull", though with many mispronounced words like 'Chimera' the misprononciation may also be accepted as correct now, not sure. Look it up for yourself if you want, just thought I'd help ya out.
Shen can be seen as trained beyond human anatomy, making himself into the ultimate fighter, something that yujiro would slap into shen is that yujiro is in fact the strongest living thing alive, and shen is only copying.
Yes Shen trained to be at this level, Yujiro was just born with it
People, is learning martial arts counts as copying
15:55 It's not even that, it's literally just them referring to his "Flash" technique.
"Ah, is that how fast your Flash is? Heh, well it seems I've surpassed your Flash-Light"
"Ah, but I have ALSO surpassed my Flash-Light for a God Flash"
"NANI!?"
Yujiro will make that Kengan guy an amatueur
The earthquake feat alone says all it needs to say. Not saying Shen couldn’t hurt him, but this is a clear mid-diff at best for Yujiro
In the x chapter
Between Kengan and baki
The writer say Yujiro, like Kuroki
Simply
He said that but definitely isn't on Yujirros level, the writer of one punch man, said Boros was stronger then Beerus or somone like him but that's definitely not true
Mysterious weeb can you please do shen wulong vs Daniel park
No kengan character is even bullet speed as of right now " Shen is hypersonic" what the hell is this vid😭😭
Feats disprove this
@@mysteriousweeb no kengan character has shown any feat of being bullet speed and the distance of the calculations themselves are assumptions lol. At max the characters are faster than blink of an eye lol
what a cap @MysteriousWeeb
@@NIQUEBIENTAVILLE lol the admin of the channel uses fake calculations, manga effects and assumptions to prove the fake shit about how strong the characters are
@@abhivirabhatt4194 sorry, I was telling that to the person who made the video
I definitely got spoiled and know nothing about kengan ashura. But because of Shen Wulong. I just want to read and watch everything just to see how broken he'll turn out.
@@contraRArian do it, peak experience awaits
The amount of people who think Shen can win shows how delusional the Kengan fanbase is.
I’ll put it like this: Shen needs to hide behind the worm and death dealers to be a threat to world governments, Yujiro can make the world bend to him using his own strength.
Shen is a coward who relies on cloning to stay strong. Yujiro climbed his way to the top using his own strength. To compare Shen to Yujiro is beyond disrespectful when Motobe alone should be enough.
More like the Worm is doing everything they can to keep Shen as _not_ a threat.
Shen wasn't even hiding, he regularly meet with regular people and being in public conflicts, it's the worm that's trying to hide him
Shen wasn't even hiding, he regularly meet with regular people and being in public conflicts, it's the worm that's trying to hide him
Now this makes me wonder what Pickle would imagine Shen as??? If he saw him 🤔
An actual wasp 😅
Definitely food. Pickle will decimate him
@@jakerosrte795 doubt it Shen is on musashis level and musashi whooped pickles ass so doubt it
Retsu still solos
Nice video!
Thanks for the visit
I really believe that Shen would beat Yujiro simply because of what Kuroki said and how Baki logic works. Shen had broken down the martial to it's most fundamental principles. I don't think Yujiro can do that. And Kuroki said it himself that there's no such thing as flawless strength. Just like how Kuroki took advantage of Shen's openings while being much weaker than him
Shen seems to have some sort of understanding and control of physics or something. I still think Kuroki would beat Yujiro also.
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@@dc56789 That's a hot take
Yujiro can 100% copy and instantly understand the fundamental of principles. The entire point of Yujiro is that he is the pinnacle, there is nothing he can't do because he is Yujiro Hanma...
Baki taunted Yujiro after putting him in an arm lock and asked him to get out and Yujiro proceeded to just punch through concrete because that'd be the most Yujiro thing do... 💀
@@dc56789 i stand with you on kuroki vs yujiro
Shen took thousands of years to get strong, yujiro took a few years to scratch the surface of his power and I don’t mean that in a bad way. He gets like 200-300x stronger every year or two. Yujiro once said something about “it doesn’t matter if you trained, studied, or practiced a technique for millenia, it’s all nothing against me in the end” or something like that.
Shen doesn't even breath ☠️
If yujiro punches him in the gut then shen is gonna have to breath sooner or later, isn’t that also one of his weaknesses too where he’ll age instantly
Yujiro earthquake feat was done with no demon back and was significantly weaker then
I'm really sick of people bringing up that wacky arbitrary feat.
@@pango4425Yeah because it‘s the tectonic plates that he stopped elevating the feat way better
I think that earthquake feat of yujiro is a fluke. We never see him do anything close to that even with demon back!
Probably what happened is yujiro just timed his punch when the earthquake is about to stop.
@@rjproduction486That is pure cope man. 😂😂😂
@@ModernWelfare_ dude even with demon back we did not see any yujiro feats that's was close enough in stopping an earthquake with just a punch.
Hey bro you talked about shen so long that you even mentioned kengan ashuras building level feats its good that you talking about every feat but it would be better if you talk about yujiro as much as you do in shen
Well i thinks is due to yujiro being iconic and popular, since bakis anime gained popularity and his feats are well known, while shen is a manga character from omega and not as popular while relatively new so he explores his feats more
Yujiro? The lad who got owned by nets and darts?
@@Yuiichiiro wait what
@@Guile1117 Yup. Original series, he got jumped by a net and some tranq darts and they put him down.
@JackgarPrime I know, that guy edited his comment, he originally said something, else