Why Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes NEEDS Hulk
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- Опубликовано: 16 май 2024
- Following up my recent video on the Hulk / Bruce Banner relationship in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, this analysis dives into the Hulk's character and relationship with the rest of EMH's Avengers, focusing specifically on Hawkeye, Captain America, Thor, and the Wasp. My breakdown concludes with a reading of the Hulk's story in EMH as something approaching a humanist parable on the value of surrounding oneself with good people!
Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Hawkeye + Hulk
3:14 Captain America + Hulk
5:57 Thor + Hulk
7:35 Wasp + Hulk
9:30 Other Avengers
10:45 The Larger Point
12:31 Conclusion
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Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes was a Marvel animated series developed by Christopher Yost and Joshua Fine, and saw Marvel's premiere superteam face off against a host of villains, such as Kang, Ultron, the Masters of Evil, Doom, the Kree, the Skrulls, Galactus, and many more.
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Just when Hulk was begining to talk and get a personality in the MCU they replace him with Prof Hulk. Thats the reason EMH Hulk is the best version becase he actully has a personality and arc sepeate from bruce.
I was actually kinda liking where Hulk was going in Ragnarok. I feel like they should’ve kept him in that sort of equilibrium with Banner.
It was Infinity War that pretty much derailed his character, and Endgame just thoroughly wrecked what was left of his development.
But nothing can top the comics hulk personality.
@@alirezamoshiri I find mainline comics hulk a bit to sad. The fact that it features his friends giving up on him and shooting him into space is messed up.
@@Gojirawars03 It was a bit disappointing we had to wait till Ragnarok for a Hulk that talks in basic sentences when that's something he should have been capable of from the start (but Whedon, while I think he generally handled Bruce and Hulk well, did unfortunately make Hulk too ape like in his behavior) but at the time I was happy just to finally see it. I lost my mind at the *trailer* with the first look at the "like smoldering fire" conversation he and Thor have. It was soooo good.
But yep, then the Russos just took that away and skipped a ton of character development and replaced that Hulk as soon as they could.
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Why I love this show:
After the 'death' of Thor
Wasp: Should we move his hammer? Hulk, could you-
Hulk: Can't move it, can't even pick it up.
Wasp: Why-
Hulk: Because... I'm not Thor...
This comment goes hard
I like how grumpy hylk was in this show yet under all that anger he was humble and had a heart of gold
Hulk even says this to Ultron, *"THIS IS FOR THOR!!!"*
To me DC has "The Trinity" while Marvel has "The Quartet" which is why I was pissed off Hulk didn't join Cap, Iron-Man, and Thor in fighting Thanos. His movie was literally SECOND in the MCU!
Yah i never got that tbh
ngl, the trinity is kinda unbalanced, since we all know its really about the worlds finest, superman and batman.
If only because, for some reason, a lot of writers have a really hard time writing Wonder Woman
@@HeavyMetalMouse I mean, her original concept and themes were very...odd to say the least, so its no wonder that writers have a hard time writing her.
@@projekttaku1Best we got in my book is the JL and JLU Wonder Woman, she felt like a real person much as the other characters in that show
It’s nice to see someone understand Hulk and Wasps friendship.
Yes cuz in hulk mind wasp is kinda some sort of good hearted therapist where as with hawkeye he is just the friend who you can get drunk with in hulk mind
@@lewishamilton.f1.44 EMH Hawkeye did make Hulk laugh
Captain America had Hulk's back from the start, when AIM and Hydra were having a turf war over the Cosmic Cube. Hulk thought Cap saw him as a monster, but he says in his day Hulk would be called a hero. He doesn't order him around, he just encourages him to be the hero that he knows he is. It's one of the reasons why Captain America's word holds a lot of weight in Marvel, before Secret Empire but let's ignore that. When Steve Rogers said something, everyone and their mom listens intently.
While i know im the minority in this case, i actually liked the "Hydra Cap" storyline or at least the idea. It certainly should have been handled better, with a lot more nudge nudge wink wink tap nose on the behalf of the writes both in story and during interviews. But the idea has merit, a Captain America who was a traitor and worked for hydra, the one guy everybody could count on and trusted implicitly turned out to be the baddest bad guy there was. Though EMH handled the traitor Cap story infinitely better.
@@HoodedLord Also the idea that Steve's greatest strength doesn't inherently make him a hero--you can uncompromisingly do what you think is right no matter what, but if you aren't willing to truly examine your beliefs and make sure they're right, you may very well be the villain (though MCU Thanos did this much better). This could be interpreted as saying that Captain America is a hero not because that's just who he is, but because he puts in the work to make sure he's not a villain (though again, the comics didn't really focus on that aspect). All in all, great ideas, flawed execution, still a decent story.
I actually came to this video hoping this part would get covered but oh well... It's back to hunting around for that clip or episode for me.
@@TheThugnificant kinda sad Iron Man and Hulk don’t have much of a friendship or get along much in Earths Mightiest Heroes or even the comics.
The pure Shade Hulk throws at Thor easily adds depth too Hulk character mainly his awesome sense of humor
Wasp & Hulk have such a Big Sister Little Brother dynamic & i love it! That scene where Wasp goes *"Hulk, smash him!"* & He goes *"finally!"* Always puts a smile on my face
Isn't Bruce older than Wasp?
@@David_Scar It's more of a metaphor than being literal since you're correct, Bruce is indeed older than Wasp. But as Hulk, he's basically a misguided kid & Wasp is the one who becomes the guy Hulk needs, or more specifically, an older sister. So even though she's younger than him, that doesn't really play a big factor into their amazing dynamic
How old is Bruce banner anyway......being he,hulk and wasp happen to be my favorite characters
@@michaelelder7048 That's a good question
@@BardockSkywalker Idk how old he supposedly is in EMH, but his voice actor was 38 when the show was released and he looks like he could be that age, so I've always headcannoned him to be 38 in EMH.
the way I see it Thor and Hulk's relationship became that of two brothers, the type who are constantly getting into petty physical altercations. Generally I wouldn't say this is the most healthy of relationships but for Hulk and Thor who are so strong they generally constantly have to always hold back to keep from harming others this was a type of physical bonding that simply wasn't possible with anyone else.
Hulk and Thor are quite the sparring partners. The Thing and Hulk are similar, but not as bonded. Hercules and Thor, but not get on each other's nerves as much. More Hercules ego being bruised if he was ignored.
They kinda remind me of a quote “me against my brother the pair of us against the stranger”
True, in the comics they are pretty much close in strength and power. In the comics when human torch supposedly died in his sacrifice against annihlus, Thor and hulk were the only ones durable enough to take a beating from a mourning Ben Grimm….
Still think Hulk was captured by Ross for *far* too long in Season 2, almost 9 episodes after the Secret Invasion, and the fact that Captain America is apparently the only one who never gave up on him (or were too happy to replace him with Red Hulk) is just sad. Like I know that characters need to be written out of episodes so the others can shine but still.
That is literally my only complaint about szn 2. The hulk has saved them many times and was literally framed by red hulk yet all the avengers with the exception of cap were so quick to give up on him and replace him with red hulk
I always felt that the Avengers were standing for the illuminati here with their treatment of Bruce and Hulk during this season. They viewed hulk as dangerous and where perfectly fine with him being sent away so where and having him be someone else’s problem. However, Cap and Hawkeye never thought of him as a monster and always vouched for him. Their continued trust in him helped to in turn, bring out his heroism more directly. The team’s initial adoration of the red hulk was clearly meant to mimic how readers went nuts when he was first introduced in the comics. He was EVERYWHERE, appearing in books he had absolutely no business in, like spider-girl, the avengers, venom, fantastic four, etc. He was treated like the best thing since sliced bread, and at the time, in terms of characterization, there was nothing he could do that Green Scar Hulk personality couldn’t. Bruce and the Hulk had to be de-powered and regressed to the savage Hulk personality in order to build Red Hulk up
@@Dhampir101980 Still, the episode had the gall to have Hawkeye, one of Hulk’s few friends, give Red Hulk a TOUR of Avengers Mansion.
@@MTV2O2O I can’t disagree with that. It’s a lapse in judgment, for sure
I think they forgot about the Hulk
Like I said before, this is why The Incredible Hulk became one of my favorite characters in comics. There's something about him, his story, the shit he's went through, no matter what good he does the world will always see him as a monster. Just makes me just want to go up to him and just give him a hug or something.
Other than his human friends like Rick Jones
Same here
0:25...honestly, gotta say....although RDJ is Tony Stark, the sharp jarring contrast between him and comic book Tony in some aspects....man, EMH found the nice balance between Tony the hero, tony the futurist and tony the charismatic playboy.
And Tony the A-hole
He's my favorite Iron Man.
@@TheWarmachine375 as an Iron Man fan, it’s sad Iron Man and Hulk don’t get along or don’t have much of a friendly relationship in Earths Migtiest Heroes or the comics
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 I checked that Iron Man and Hulk are just chill with each other in EMH but not to the level of Science Bros their counterparts from MCU had.
Compared to the comics Iron Man who shot Hulk into space or fired an orbital laser cannon at him.
Seeing the characters interact with the Hulk is definitely interesting because it ironically shows the more human side of the heroes, especially in moments where he is called a monster. When I started reading Avengers comics after finishing the series, I realized the obvious: The Avengers did not accept the Hulk as in the series, in number 1 itself everything is very different from the series, which really deserves to be analyzed. As much as they share a common villain, the movie and the comic are very different products, with the movie being more comparable to the Ultimates, but the Breakout episodes and Avengers # 1 were something that blew my mind
I love hulk in the avengers, easily the best hulk we've gotten in live action movies.
It was great to see the Hulk form genuine friendships with Cap, Wasp and Hawkeye. All too often in the comics, the avengers only view Hulk as weapon; a canon to be aimed at the threat of the storyline. Never as a teammate. I think it would be interesting if they had the original lineup of the defenders appear on the show, and use that to examine the contrast of Hulk’s relationship between the two teams. It could provide some interesting interactions and character studies, especially the close friendship that Dr. Strange has with both Hulk AND Bruce. The avengers on this show don’t get a chance to interact with Bruce much at all( which makes sense for the era of storylines they’re adapting, but still odd considering the “ science bromance “ of Tony and Bruce in the MCU). Definitely make that third Hulk video though. I always love hearing Hulk’s dichotomy being analyzed.
@Dhampir1980 as an Iron Man fan, it’s sad Iron Man and Hulk don’t get along or don’t have much of a friendly relationship in Earths Migtiest Heroes or the comics
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 Bruce and Tony along alright, just not as their alter egos.
I just love all the character interactions in this show
Same!
Panther and Hawkeye are my personal favorites
Hulk and Wasp's friendship is just so heartwarming and charming. I can't help but grin like an idiot whenever they're on screen together and interacting with each other.
I love Hawkeye and Hulk’s relationship. Their moments together were fun. I would love to see that Hulk video talking more about him. Great video showing Hulk and his relationship with the other Avengers that he is close to
bro, hulk laughing so hard at hawkeye saying he's gonna beat him he turned back into banner was one of the funniest moments in marvel.
From being introduced to the Avenger largely because of the MCU movie, I always thought Hulk was a mainstay Avenger. It's neat to know that wasn't the case until the twenty tens.
1:18
I have rewatched EMH several times but this is the first time I am noticing that Enchantress and the Executioner were walking by in disguise when the Avengers were arriving at the mansion for the first time.
Good spot ;)
@@PillarofGarbage It was probably the point were they started to get the idea to turn the Hulk against the Avengers after seeing how annoyed he was with them for being late.
@@PillarofGarbage how would you feel if Spider-Man interacted with the Hulk in EMH along with the other heroes ?
I love the conflict and relationships the Hulk forms in EMH. As a kid i was afraid of Hulk because i used to think he was just pure rage, but EMH made me see past that and actually see why he was considered a hero.
My version of Hulk takes more from his savage side. But he tends to stand with the avengers when needed….. when he isn’t on a blind rampage
I’d personally love to see a video analyzing the two avengers who got the least developed. Ms Marvel and Vision.
Ms marvel certainly is “developed”
Love the character banter between hulk and hawk eye I always found it funny that hawk is best friends with the hulk but he really doesn’t like banner 😂
At 8:18 I liked how the Hulk was surprised by the others I think he realized Bruce was right after everyone else takes up for him at end of that episode
Hulks relationship with Janet are the most emotionally charged moments in the show for me, even when it's just silly (like the making faces scene you show where she understands when Hulk is having a Dr Jekyll moment). I literally cry happy tears that someone like that exists and it reminds me of the friendships we had when we were children. She is by far my favourite character on the show.
hulk is absolutely my favorite marvel character, emh is one of my favorite incarnations of him with depth and fun. I also liked agents of smash but that was for children and mostly sucked but its always good to see the hulk not as a full blown monster
Isn't this the Avengers show that has the coolest version of Dr Doom?
It is indeed!
Hulk, Hawkeye and Wasp were my favorites. 3 amigos that reminded me of Beast Boy, Cyborg and Raven from Teen Titans in terms of being trio of 3 best character characters in the show. Also I think it's telling that almost killing HER made Banner and Hulk free from Enchantress control.
Speaking of that animated planet hulk movie.
It really needs a sequel
I love the friendship between Hulk and Clint. They are both hot heads and were treated like criminals at one point sonut makes sense for them to bond.
Captain America, Wasp and Hulk all receive their powers through radiation or genetic mutation. Only difference is that Steve and Janey choose to be altered Bruce had no choice. His transformation into the Hulk was never his choice. It was forced upon him when he was caught in the gamma bomb explosion and usually loses control whenever he is forced to changes due to extreme anger or stress.
It would have been nice to see interactions between Vision and Hulk. Like Hulk Vision was viewed as a villain (I know he was but that's beside the point). Vision saved the team from Ultron and was accepted into their ranks almost immediately. Whereas Hulk was still in jail by the time this occurred. Vision was viewed as a monster but was accepted with open arms after he proved himself. Hulk proved himself but in the end was arrested and his friends (with exception of Steve and Janet) didn't do anything to help (due to the machinations of Skrull Captain America).
Watching interactions between the stoic Vision and the aggressive Hulk would have been fun to watch.
Although the most closed off he’s sometimes the heart of the team
Look forward to your take on the the Hulk as a character overall!
His connection with Wasp in EMH is a surprising contrast from the 60’s comics. I remember when I read Avengers issue 2 and when he left she was just happy he was gone because him being there just scared her
Bruce Banner and his relation with Hulk was the main reason I got interrested in "The world's strongest heroes", the other reason being that I found graviton to be an interresting villain, when I first watched the series a couple years ago.
I know I'm late but at 1:17 you can actually see Amora the Enchantress and the Executioner in disguise. The name of the episode is Some Assembly Required. I didn't notice that until I rewatched the series a few months ago.
It’s a great little detail :D
It is refreshing how EMH handles hulk while still keeping the downside of sometimes having to fight him as a balance to how strong he is
Great vid, id love to see an over thematic character analysis of the hulk. The hulk unfortunately isnt very well explored outside of the comics and some other ancillary material. The MCU version is the most prominent within the public at large and well... that version has bin shafted and pretty under utilized if we're being honest
Spider-Man was also a pretty cool addition to the show as well but who do I know I'm just yet another massive Spidey shill so of course I'd be happy everytime I see him......😎😎😎😎😎😎
My favorite view on the Hulk happens in two episodes I don't currently remember if are from EMH or from Assemble:
One when the Avengers get infected with a Hulk Virus and we're shown how he actually have an incredible level of self control;
The other is one where he falls on Earth with an weird scar on his face and no memory of what happened, and we're shown what basically amounts to a normal day in his life;
I love both
I think both of those are from Assemble!
@@PillarofGarbage ah, I see. Thanks 👍
I would LOVE more Hulk content! He’s definitely one of my favorite characters in EMH!
Cause he's *Nigel Thornberry voice* SMASHING
Some origin stories have Banner become the Hulk trying to recreate Cap’s super soldier serum, including the 2008 movie that vaguely inspired EMH.
I think the only story that acknowledges this connection is the Ultimate Avengers animated film and maybe the MCU.
Honestly, people then to forget that when hulk isn't some rage monster he can pull from the knowledge of his banner side.
12:30 "Hero. Monster. It doesn't matter what they call you. All that matters... Is what you choose."
Another great video! These 4 characters forming a team could be a callback to Cap's Kooky Quartet from the OG comics
This show was and still is five times better than the entire MCU, and I think it handled the Hulk perfectly, but I also thought it was a perfect portrayal of his archenemy, General Thaddeus "Thunderbolt" Ross. It really showed off how ruthless and downright evil Ross is, seeing the way that he was willing to endanger whoever else was fighting the Hulk and any bystanders just to get him. It also showed his true motivation for catching the Hulk as wanting to take his power for himself seeing his portrayal as the Red Hulk. As the Red Hulk, Ross openly called the Hulk a chump for using his powers to protect people rather than prove his might, showing that Ross isn't worthy of said powers as he'd rather be feared than loved, unlike the Hulk. Their portrayal also makes me believe that the Hulk's origins are similar to the original comics, but Ross corrupted Banner's gamma research to create a bomb, while Banner's altruism is still what made him into the Hulk when he saved Rick Jones from the gamma bomb. My only criticism regarding the Hulk's inclusion in this show is that it didn't include much of the Hulk's supporting cast other than his enemies and fellow Avengers; I would've loved to see Rick Jones aiding the Avengers as he did in the comics and Betty Ross trying to fix her relationship with Bruce.
Thanks for doing this! You did such a great job analyzing this topic!
the hulk will always be my favoite marvel hero: he has saved the entire universe multiple times and shown that his potential is insanely powerful, yet people are still almost always scared of him
I'd be very into seeing you make more videos on the Hulk. Good stuff mate.
That side eye glance Hawk eye gave Bruce in the elevator was like
Dude, Hulk and I would just get a smoothie or something
I'd definitely be interested in a future Hulk video!
And this is why u love this exotic show the character within them and the emosion´s they bring to egother the avengers are more a familie than a team and that makes them even stronger
That follow up hulk episode sounds interesting.
I love the smile he has after he realizes Wasp is helping him
It kinda sucks that we wont get another Hulk solo movie anytime soon due to Disney beefing with Universal over the rights... 😔😔
Yes I would be into whatever you said about the hulk at the end
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3:00 completely agree
Also, I'd like a Hulk character idea video.
🙂
Just wanted to say i love your videos
Thank you!
This show is one of my favorite MCU shows!
Awesome thank you
I really should watch this show one of these days. I feel like it'll become one of my favorite incarnation of the Avengers
I love his character sure, but I just love the way he looks too
You should make a video about all of the Avengers earth mightiest heroes villains deaths
Honestly, you have made me want to watch the show
This is still one of my favorite hulk continuities
I’d be really interested about that video idea about the general idea of the Hulk, I’m very curious what you’d come up with considering how insightful I found this video on just the EMH Hulk
Hi, I did end up making that video! Here’s a link:
ruclips.net/video/NhSOoiGN5Zo/видео.html
"It's a form of cosmic radiation"
love this
Hey i have question... I was watching wolverine and xmen and i heard it was connected to hulk vs wolverine but it didn't make sense as in xmen show, hulk appears and it is implied that events of movie happend before then how did wolverine not knew about sabertooth??? If anyone can tell me it will be very helpful as i stopped watching it and i want to watch it
This man don’t miss
For Hulk and Wasp’s friendship I feel like in assemble and the mcu they replaced their hulk and wasp’s friendship from emh with widow
could you talk about the episodes where the avengers are split between the realms
You know, with how well you understand and are able to dissect this stuff, it makes me wonder what you could discuss with the topic of how often comic books use divorce instead of writing healthy marriages.
Wasp was to this show as the Flash was to the DCAU Justice League.
Can you make a hulk and wasp video
what's that outro song? it's clearly an instrumental of a pop song, but I can't think of it.
It's an instrumental inspired by the Avengers: EMH theme, 'Fight as One' by Bad City
I would love yhat hulk vid
The goofy faces Wasp makes at Hulk are awesome
6:36 Thor T-Pose
Emh was awesome
I believe MCU Hulk should follow example
Honestly, I loved Wasp and Thor’s relationship.
More hulk videos pls
Personally I really like the world war hulk story, but I entirely agree that this is a unique take!
@tannerbruning868 I didn’t like how Miek got away and the Illuminati didn’t deserve to be slaves
Wish we could have seen Devil Hulk
This show ended _WAAAY_ too soon... honestly, the writing & characterisation was streets ahead of most of the dross we get nowadays..!
@PeteTheGrouch blame Jeph Loeb
0:32 Hey! don't be mean >: O
it's not " *A* convoluted mess called Marvel's mainline continuity" it's " *OUR* convoluted mess called Marvel's mainline continuity" ;)
Is there anything about the possible connection to the animated Hulk Vs films to this show? Hulk vs Wolverine and Hulk vs Thor? Some think those two animated films are in the same continuity.
It's been confirmed that they are indeed in the same universe, and so are Wolverine and the X-Men and Thor: Tales of Asgard
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I loved that Iron man and Hulk interaction
@austinmccormick8952 kinda sad Iron Man and Hulk don’t have much of a friendship or get along much in Earths Mightiest Heroes or even the comics.
They should make an immortal hulk s as animated tv series or movie
Do the new Hulk video 👍🏾
Hell yeah more Hulk
"You left Hulk in the pool!"
What is the background music called
At which point?
@@PillarofGarbage the background music throughout
At 12:01 which issue is that?
Issue 1 and a half - made retroactively in 1999. Here's a link with more information! comicvine.gamespot.com/avengers-112-the-death-trap-of-doctor-doom/4000-78495/
Why did I think that was flash in the thumbnail 💀
Do you think Hulk is another hero Spider-Man could’ve gotten along with in EHM alongside Captain America ?
In the comics that's actually a bit of a thing
@@gavichealsomething2169 what are you implying,that they actually got along in the comics ? If that’s what you’re trying to say then yeah it’s true Hulk only knew about Spider-Man’s identity not Bruce Banner.
@@comicbookking3446 that's exactly what i mean
Course in the Disney Marvel Animated Universe, both got along great, like Spidey "nursed" him and his Aunt, then he was there again for a mind swap with Hulk, then in an episode of SMASH, they became buds, which is proven further when Spidey becomes an official member in the 3rd Season of Ultimate Spider-Man
@@gavichealsomething2169kinda sad Iron Man and Hulk don’t have much of a friendship or get along much in Earths Mightiest Heroes or even the comics.
@@Seasonal-Shadow_4674 yeah
Well, in the comics there's apparently a reason, the first being that Starkis apparently a bit of a jerk in the comics (I read that from another RUclips comment), and well, I'd say go read the Original Sin Hulk issue from a while back
should be interesting
Is is just me or are hulk and wasp cute together