@@sherburnoutdoors Agree and as you had it in the video, the 'thin' edge of the exhaust you'll see has a hole in it which drains any moisture from the line, hence the continuous down slope from heater to outlet. The other 'thin' side has the mounting rivet hole. Great video and I've changed my brand on 'low noise' pump I was planning to order to the one in your video.
I got that pump and have the same heater as y'all. I also purchased the silicon boot thats encloses dose pump. I suspended pump with nylon ties to eliminated the transfer of any noise to heater cabinet. I dont hear pump after 2 minutes of operation. This is 2nd season with it, already used it to heat 2 car garage this year, still silent! Happy Trails!
Michael what part of the country are you in? I'm thinking about using a diesel heater to heat my 2 car garage but I wonder if it can keep up in a Minnesota winter.
Great info on the fuel pump, thank you. One thing you should be aware of when using an infrared thermometer is that they work by detecting infrared emissions. Not all surfaces are equal in this regard. Shiny surfaces are notorious for lack of emissivity. Flat black and strangely enough water work very well. Do a quick Google on infrared emissivity tables to shed some insight into their accuracy on various surfaces.
I also used sound deaden-er on the outside of the heater to help with the noise. (I had the material from using it in areas on my truck that needed deadening). Also, a couple of short 2x4's make great legs for giving yourself a little more space under the unit
Got the same unit more or less. I took the cover off, put some zip ties here and there, some grommets. (It’s cheap) Took the rubber bracket off around the fuel pump and literally surrounded the pump with pink insulation. I barely hear the pump over the fan anyways. Cheap and quick.
Could you wrap the fuel pump in Rockwool? it does a great job in my living room walls for noise reduction. And a combustion rating of over 2000 degrees.
We have an Eberspacher diesel heater mounted underneath our VW T5 camper van and in the handbook it describes the pump as “near silent” I can honestly say that I’ve never heard the pump either inside or outside the van, just shows that these pumps can be very quiet 👍🏻🇬🇧
@@steveffuksake Eberspacher was recommended to me by a former HGV fitter and parts supplier, he said they were very reliable and parts were readily available it also helped that we have a main agent fairly local to us who did the installation. It was not cheap (£1500 fitted) but I’ve not regretted it.
So I looked up this pump on the Amazonian and looking at the reviews. There's a lot of people saying that either it doesn't sound quieter and worse, many people saying that it functioned for a few hours and then the pump just died! So I wonder, since your vid is now over a year, how has the "quieter' pump stood up? Did it last and remain quiet or did you have to put the original back in? I'm just about to press the button to order the Vevor "upgraded" version and wonder if I should just order that pump. I also wonder, if you or others have just tried to dampen the sound of the original pump? Perhaps by wrapping it in some kind of sound dampening wrap and perhaps adding some of that on the lines too. As well, putting dampening material in the inside walls of the case itself. Has anyone tried that and if so, did it work at all?
i love that clicking noise, makes me know that heater is working :) and wrapping exhaust aint a good idea...unless you change it with proper one, those chinese pipes are so cheap that will simply burn down and closing heat inside will just speed it up....
I used header wrap that I use on my Harley. You can touch the exhaust pipe and it is just warm. The best way to use the heat wrap is to soak it in water to keep the glass fibers from getting on you.
I did that on an 8KW diesel heater with a couple of layers. When the heater is on full it still gets too hot to touch and will melt plastic. Maybe the stuff I used wasn't as good as yours?
Exactly. I soak it in water before wrapping headers on hotrods. I think it wraps tighter and looks nicer when finished. It seems like water makes it more flexible like a wet lubricant and it helps keep those fibers from breaking.
Nice video, thanks, I have two older heaters - a Webasto 12v and an Eberspacher 24v - both from decades ago but in really nice condition. The control units were pre-digital and are mechanical and they are not in such good shape - having being mounted on boats where they got exposed to weather, getting knocked, etc. My question is whether one can get a generic modern control unit for them and so put them to good use, or should I just bin them and just buy a new Chinese one cheaply and with all the control gear with it? It just seems a shame to waste them... thanks for any ideas on this.
I'll check out the quiet pump, thank you. Would have appreciated a temp check after the black tape. In my case the tape just conducted the heat right through, maybe a drop of about 10 degrees was all I got. Used about 1.5 inches thick white fiberglass heat wrap and down to 73 degrees. (touchable)
Fired heater last night, loud tick from pump but didn't realize what it was at the time. Removed cover today, fuel line taping in cover, also noisy pump. Left over batting insulation beside heater from previous owner, stuff some around pump and fuel line. Zero tapping once heater is running. Will likely re route pump and insulate with board foam but atleast we know insulation helps a ton.
Ran heater for 20 mins during day to see if any parts near pump get warm or hot, everything was cool to the touch so in theory it will work but not the safest. Ok for a quick hack until you can relocate.
Hi,do you think the fuel line is way to long ..Sometimes it takes a couple of goes to start,to much air in line.thinking of making it alot shorter.....THOUGHT,S
What kilowatt heater did you put that pump in please let me know I can't find one for a kilowatts I'm not sure if they're all the same or not may have to have a bigger one for the 8th to pump more fuel
i built a waterproof wooden box, with lift up lid... That sits around the back of my workshop... I cut and extended the wiring to the control screen, so that the screen is on the wall inside my workshop, and the heater is outside... Powered by a car battery, constantly on trickle charge... and just drilled a hole in my workshop wall to put air vent in... So i hear no ticking :) Not an issue for me
I have my pump suspended by a couple of elastic bungee chords. This is on a boat and is still mounted so will not swing about. The chords stop the pulse communicating itself to the infrastructure. Can hardly hear the tick at all. Would be silent if I wrapped the pump with insulation but so quiet I've not got round to it.
I removed the step cover on my citroen relay van...ran fuel line directly to diesel tank as the one supplied others said leaked...located underneath passenger seat...mounted the fuel pump on side of step..also left bulkhead head in not a sound.
Does this new fuel pump compatible with all Chinese diesel heater on the market, and what is the difference between the advanced and general model? Thanks
i got rid of the noise by setting it up outside my man shed and putting the heat hose in through the wall.also point the hose down so condensate does not build up
The ticking is often not the pump but the fuel line tapping against the housing. What pump dit you get 16ml..20...24? Or you you just bought 'a' fuel pump?
In 2 separate installs, one a Chinese and the other a Webasto, both pumps were quieter at the higher setting. It is a faster "click", Not as loud and not as noticeable.
Hi - great video, want to install a Deisal heater but have the same concern of the pump noise. A couple Questions, is the unit you modded a Vevor? And what power station are you using, I have heard the Vevors need 15 amps from the 12 V to start reliably (Most Power stations I've seen like Jackery et al are 10) Thanks!
It's actually at the top, but best read the reviews. LOTS of negative reviews, some saying that it's not any quieter and worse, many saying that it worked for a few hours or few days and the dosing pump just stopped working. The thing is with that, it raises the questions, "is the pump so poorly made that it just died" or worse "is the pump pulling way too many amps that it pooched the motherboard?" I wish someone, how has one of these, would do an amperage test then look at the MOSFETS that power it to see their ratings. That might answer this.
You could probably also blimp the intake with some kind of wadded mesh in a mesh bag. It'd have to be loose and not get in there, so it could get a little big, but it would probably quiet it a good deal.
Heat tape wrapped around an exhaust can lead to cracking because of too much heat retained in the pipe and then the cooling after shutdown. How has this fared with this?
@@Gary-ee3kqyeah I just saw one for $16 free shipping out of Kentucky. I don't have a diesel heater but I put one on my wish list because I'm definitely considering when for ice fishing
@SaltMinerOU812 I was in a bind couple wks ago on a trip because I couldn't sleep with that da*n ticking noise, so I stopped by Harbor Freight to see if I could come up with something. The microfiber cloths were free with a coupon, so I picked those up and wrapped all 4 around the pump and zip tied them twice. Worked great 👍 👌 can barely hear the pump now over the fan.
My tip : If you want extreme quietness for the pump > Rubbized spray (tape off the connection wires) Then a pool noodle with zip ties. The rubber spray effects the amount of metal sound coming out And the foam noodle masks what is left from traveling further..
Fun fact: The exhaust "muffler" is not a silencer. It's a condenser and it do not damp the sound. It's possible to get a real silencer as a little muffler or as a muffler hose.
@@MikeR55 I think you need some way to get rid of the moisture that comes when the fuel burns. So it must depend on how the exhaust system is made and is it possible for the moisture to run out of the exhaust pipe. I have seen a solution where the exhaust pipe had a small drain plug since the condenser was not used. I think i will use it but i have also 2 meter long exhaust silencer and also a real silencer. I'm still in the project thaughts and have not installed my Diesel heater yet.
@@robina.jensen6114Hi, i just bought one and wait for delivering it, im also thinking of adding a real muffler on it. I've got one from a 30-50cc 2 stroke old grass grinding machine. I think it will be better than the original. I could also make a small hole under it in order to drain any water ..
ran the exhaust through a radiator and get more heat, also brother when doing exhaust wraps wet the soak the cloth and then wrap you get a tight wrap that will not come undone. great video thanks for showing that an after market pump can take away the tick tick tick.
I bought a 3M long extension and ran it along my garage wall, by the end of tbe exhaust it's cool enough to touch, all that heat is going into my garage instead of outside. Nice efficiency boost.
Yup, you are right, if people would look on the muffler there is a weep hole on the bottom for this purpose, but who pays attention to details. I've seen some installations where they put the heater in a plastic box and have the burner air intake inside of the box. Sure it will work, but any combustion loves cold dense air to burn efficiently.@@andymccall6861
Great video & thanks for sharing. How loud is the pump not that you have been using for a while. One of the review comments said it started quite and then got louder a few weeks later.
Hey I have the 5kw all in one vevor diesel heater and I changed the fuel pump but the one you recommended is still very loud… is it possible I installed it incorrectly?
Ha ha you learned the hard way about itchy hands and fibreglass exhaust tape, always wear gloves before applying exhaust tape. May I suggest that you lower the exhaust silencer as it has a condensation drain hole in the bottom of it , your exhaust will last a lot longer. Im running two over the winter here in the uk one in a static caravan and on on the side of the house, its saving a lot of money burning kerosene instead of diesel in them.
Make a box out of foam boardand just sit it over top of the heater with the intake and exhaust outside the box. I do it with all my generators and it eliminates 99% of noise. Slide that thing under your vehicle with that insulated box over top of it and you wount hearba single sound other than the blower fan.
Would wrapping the exhaust in heat tape prevent the natural heat radiation from the exhaust, in turn making the housing hotter? Even if true, I've heard that some people like to run their housings hotter, as they say it lowers coking (suit) in the chamber.
Not sure that the pump is actually any quieter. I hear the pump when the heater is on low. When it's on full, the noise of the pump is drowned out by the exhaust noise. What do you think? I am going to put some foam insulation around the pump and see what difference that makes. Either way, I would rather be warm.
are you running it off a 12v 10amp socket? just got a power station and im using an inverter as my 8kw draws about 150W on start up and theoretically shouldn't work
Right! I just bought one and the ticking is driving me nuts. If there is a solution, why not sell it with it!!! It's maddening, like someone running up and down the stairs.
Really so its that quiet? Some Amazon reviews saying its Louder then stock pump & one said the seal blew off the pump & sprayed Diesel every where. Been wanting quit pumps, But they all have such mixed reviews regardless of the brands.
Pump is noisy. You can hear it ticking away when he was outside next to his green shelter. Camera picks up the ticking better than your ear. Camera doesn't pick it up after different pump. I say this is pretty good.
What if you relocate the fuel tank above the unit? Do we even need a fuel pump? Gravity should feed the burner…or am I wrong and is there some sort of injector that needs pressure in there?
The reason the fuel pump makes noise is because it is literally a click pump and it is absolutely required because the fuel pump is what controls the settings. If you took the fuel pump out the unit would not function or likely just catch on fire because the fuel would just flow through without any restrictions.
I first installed a espar heater in my 1998 peterbilt back in 2001. The espar heater was the original, these cheap Chinese heaters was modeled after the espar. I slept under that heater thousands of times in the 17 years I had the truck and not one time did the clicking ever bother me. In some ways I found it comforting, knowing it way 17 degrees outside and my heater was clicking and humming right along. Sad the espar heaters were about $1600.00 even back in 2001 and they are real close to being the same heaters but a huge price difference.
I screwed foot extenders to mine to get rid of burning issue; also helps keeping exhaust pointed down. Wraps only help marginally. If running outside; the old trick is to drill a 1/8 or smaller hole on bottom of pipe by outlet if you need to point up; lets water drip out and increases flow.
Just add some used filtered cooking oil (up to 70%) and the higher viscosity will make the clicking almost silent. Best way to prepare the cooking oil is using some pork gelatine desolved in boiling water, add it to the used oil and mix it. Let it cool down, and most of the gunk will settle at the bottom. Use the clear oil on the top and filter it.
@@troy7124 It is for sure not recommended, but I have run it like this for 1 and 1/2 season, with no big issues. For me, it has been a great succes, considering the heater was only 120 euro. Diesel prices here (Europe) are insane, so this is a cheap alternative. I am sure I will need to clean it more often and it will need more regular service intervals, but that is a risk I am willing to take.
Hi, Nice video! I’ve got a question for you, did you had any smell from your unit? I have just bought one and it smells like burn rubber. Thanks for your time
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You need to have the pipe facing down to stop condensation in the exhaust which is acidic
Thanks for the advice, started doing that now
@@sherburnoutdoors Agree and as you had it in the video, the 'thin' edge of the exhaust you'll see has a hole in it which drains any moisture from the line, hence the continuous down slope from heater to outlet. The other 'thin' side has the mounting rivet hole. Great video and I've changed my brand on 'low noise' pump I was planning to order to the one in your video.
I got that pump and have the same heater as y'all. I also purchased the silicon boot thats encloses dose pump. I suspended pump with nylon ties to eliminated the transfer of any noise to heater cabinet. I dont hear pump after 2 minutes of operation. This is 2nd season with it, already used it to heat 2 car garage this year, still silent! Happy Trails!
Michael what part of the country are you in? I'm thinking about using a diesel heater to heat my 2 car garage but I wonder if it can keep up in a Minnesota winter.
Can you share more info and possibly a link to the boot you’re talking about?
@@j.saavedra1502 It'll heat your double garage as long as insulated well except concrete floor will still be cold unless you insulate it too
If you double up on the exhaust silencers it will be even quieter on that end.
Just installed the new fuel pump.
It IS almost quiet .
No hard ticking 👍👍
Talk too much, could never hear anything the heater was doing.
Great info on the fuel pump, thank you.
One thing you should be aware of when using an infrared thermometer is that they work by detecting infrared emissions. Not all surfaces are equal in this regard. Shiny surfaces are notorious for lack of emissivity. Flat black and strangely enough water work very well. Do a quick Google on infrared emissivity tables to shed some insight into their accuracy on various surfaces.
I also used sound deaden-er on the outside of the heater to help with the noise. (I had the material from using it in areas on my truck that needed deadening). Also, a couple of short 2x4's make great legs for giving yourself a little more space under the unit
Got the same unit more or less. I took the cover off, put some zip ties here and there, some grommets. (It’s cheap) Took the rubber bracket off around the fuel pump and literally surrounded the pump with pink insulation. I barely hear the pump over the fan anyways. Cheap and quick.
Could you wrap the fuel pump in Rockwool? it does a great job in my living room walls for noise reduction. And a combustion rating of over 2000 degrees.
@strykerliker I wrapped mine in 4 micro fiber cloths. It's now almost completely masked by the fan noise.
We have an Eberspacher diesel heater mounted underneath our VW T5 camper van and in the handbook it describes the pump as “near silent” I can honestly say that I’ve never heard the pump either inside or outside the van, just shows that these pumps can be very quiet 👍🏻🇬🇧
It's cos you have rightly spent the money on the genuine item rather a knock off. Good on yer.
We have eberspacher heater's in lorry's and they are brilliant,I had a Chinese diesel heater in my camper van, lasted three weeks 😢
@@steveffuksake Eberspacher was recommended to me by a former HGV fitter and parts supplier, he said they were very reliable and parts were readily available it also helped that we have a main agent fairly local to us who did the installation. It was not cheap (£1500 fitted) but I’ve not regretted it.
Who did your install?
@ We’re in the South East it was fitted by an Eberspacher agent in Maidstone 👍🏻🇬🇧
So I looked up this pump on the Amazonian and looking at the reviews.
There's a lot of people saying that either it doesn't sound quieter and worse, many people saying that it functioned for a few hours and then the pump just died!
So I wonder, since your vid is now over a year, how has the "quieter' pump stood up?
Did it last and remain quiet or did you have to put the original back in?
I'm just about to press the button to order the Vevor "upgraded" version and wonder if I should just order that pump.
I also wonder, if you or others have just tried to dampen the sound of the original pump?
Perhaps by wrapping it in some kind of sound dampening wrap and perhaps adding some of that on the lines too. As well, putting dampening material in the inside walls of the case itself.
Has anyone tried that and if so, did it work at all?
As a helpful hint with the heat tape you want to soak it in water first for 20 minutes as it helps it then stick to the metal exhaust :)
i love that clicking noise, makes me know that heater is working :) and wrapping exhaust aint a good idea...unless you change it with proper one, those chinese pipes are so cheap that will simply burn down and closing heat inside will just speed it up....
me to ..i find it relaxing and comforting
The pipe is made of hardened stainless steel , it aint burning down bruv 😆
Do the standard pumps run warm? I've wrapped mine in a cotton shirt and it's quiet now. Just wondering if it will lead to problems.
I used header wrap that I use on my Harley. You can touch the exhaust pipe and it is just warm. The best way to use the heat wrap is to soak it in water to keep the glass fibers from getting on you.
I did that on an 8KW diesel heater with a couple of layers. When the heater is on full it still gets too hot to touch and will melt plastic. Maybe the stuff I used wasn't as good as yours?
Exactly. I soak it in water before wrapping headers on hotrods. I think it wraps tighter and looks nicer when finished. It seems like water makes it more flexible like a wet lubricant and it helps keep those fibers from breaking.
A coup of drops of soap might make it better I might try that someday.
That heat wrap is destroying your exhaust on your bike
Worth buying the up graded fuel pump as we fit all our ambulances with Diesel Heaters 5 KW Oh in passing the up graded pump will last a lot longer.
The thing I found that works the best and extremely inexpensive is a pool noodle,wrap the pump with it
Great idea. I used the foam copper pipe plumbing foam tube
@@MikeR55 I was thinking motorcycle silencer packing. Amazon has some for $10.
@@jimm1819 Ya that will work. I have some left over from an FMF muffler repack kit.
Thanks for the information. I have one of those heaters just like that one love everything But that clicking fuel pump.
Nice video, thanks, I have two older heaters - a Webasto 12v and an Eberspacher 24v - both from decades ago but in really nice condition. The control units were pre-digital and are mechanical and they are not in such good shape - having being mounted on boats where they got exposed to weather, getting knocked, etc. My question is whether one can get a generic modern control unit for them and so put them to good use, or should I just bin them and just buy a new Chinese one cheaply and with all the control gear with it? It just seems a shame to waste them... thanks for any ideas on this.
Don't throw them away. The least you can do is offer it for sale/free to someone with the skills to fix it.
@@bobdebouwer7835 I'd far rather get them going - just need the right info...
I'll check out the quiet pump, thank you. Would have appreciated a temp check after the black tape. In my case the tape just conducted the heat right through, maybe a drop of about 10 degrees was all I got. Used about 1.5 inches thick white fiberglass heat wrap and down to 73 degrees. (touchable)
In the showdown video I did last week, there are temp readings taken
I have sound deadning laying around and I plan on adding a layer to the pump itself and around the cover to test it out.
Let me know how it goes
Fired heater last night, loud tick from pump but didn't realize what it was at the time. Removed cover today, fuel line taping in cover, also noisy pump. Left over batting insulation beside heater from previous owner, stuff some around pump and fuel line. Zero tapping once heater is running.
Will likely re route pump and insulate with board foam but atleast we know insulation helps a ton.
Ran heater for 20 mins during day to see if any parts near pump get warm or hot, everything was cool to the touch so in theory it will work but not the safest. Ok for a quick hack until you can relocate.
Hi,do you think the fuel line is way to long ..Sometimes it takes a couple of goes to start,to much air in line.thinking of making it alot shorter.....THOUGHT,S
It was what was in there
Has anyone found a quiet pump that works for the 8KW heaters? I think the standard pumps are 22ml for up to 5KW units
Thank you very much. I needed to stop that ticking and your fix, fixed mine.
Glad it helped
Thanks for sharing! Very useful 😁
What kilowatt heater did you put that pump in please let me know I can't find one for a kilowatts I'm not sure if they're all the same or not may have to have a bigger one for the 8th to pump more fuel
5kw
i built a waterproof wooden box, with lift up lid... That sits around the back of my workshop...
I cut and extended the wiring to the control screen, so that the screen is on the wall inside my workshop, and the heater is outside...
Powered by a car battery, constantly on trickle charge...
and just drilled a hole in my workshop wall to put air vent in...
So i hear no ticking :) Not an issue for me
I’ve done the same and hear the ticking through the get air vent….
That is great, thanks for sharing!
Mine is almost identical, and it was resonate on thru the wood floor of my camper, just adding rubber dampening to the feet eliminated the noise
What was the exhaust temp after being wrapped??
Quick question: how do you actually seperate the fuel tank from the case? It seems to be bolted or welded. Thx in advance
No, i did not remove it
@@sherburnoutdoors thanks, but I discovered how to remove it. I have a leak and needed to inspect the tank to understand leak source
I have my pump suspended by a couple of elastic bungee chords. This is on a boat and is still mounted so will not swing about. The chords stop the pulse communicating itself to the infrastructure. Can hardly hear the tick at all. Would be silent if I wrapped the pump with insulation but so quiet I've not got round to it.
Very cool, thanks for sharing
I removed the step cover on my citroen relay van...ran fuel line directly to diesel tank as the one supplied others said leaked...located underneath passenger seat...mounted the fuel pump on side of step..also left bulkhead head in not a sound.
What size of power station do you use and how long does it last ?
@@geostlouis7652 I use the AC180 with 1152wh, this will outlast the fuel.
If you run at 1.7 htz the lowest setting it only eats 5w after the ~10 min Start up phase.
FYI your batt will probably not last as long in the cold unless you have a heated battery, or somehow heat the floor where the battery is on.
When you wrap the exhaust pipe, where does the exhaust heat go?
Out the exaust
@@sherburnoutdoors Why bother wrapping it then?
I’ve got the silent pump in my RV, after a few hours use it seemed to go even quieter.. Roland 🇬🇧 uk
seems to work great, couldn't hear a thing from the pump. All i need now is a "youtber" ...
You can use an app on your phone to check the decibel readings.
Where is the pump from?
Bought on amazon
The exhaust should be pointing downwards because condensation forms in the exhaust tube and soon it will start bubbling like a bong
Does this new fuel pump compatible with all Chinese diesel heater on the market, and what is the difference between the advanced and general model? Thanks
Pretty much, I think all of the units are pretty much the same and probably made in the same factory
i got rid of the noise by setting it up outside my man shed and putting the heat hose in through the wall.also point the hose down so condensate does not build up
Thanks for video im wondering how long can i leave diesel inside the tank for when its not use for summer time
I left mine half fuel over the summer and had no issues
@sherburnoutdoors thank you u always add again diesel? Mix old diesel with new just curious
The ticking is often not the pump but the fuel line tapping against the housing. What pump dit you get 16ml..20...24? Or you you just bought 'a' fuel pump?
The Chinese 5kW heater use the 0.022mL pump.
Maybe a crazy question but what was the temperature of the exhaust pipe after wrapping it I'm curious to see how much it helped
I will be honest. I do not think it cooled anything.
@@sherburnoutdoors thanks
In 2 separate installs, one a Chinese and the other a Webasto, both pumps were quieter at the higher setting. It is a faster "click", Not as loud and not as noticeable.
I think the noise of the fans helps mask the clicking noise as well when they are ramped up hogher
The best is the YAMAHA behind you...😜😁
Hi - great video, want to install a Deisal heater but have the same concern of the pump noise. A couple Questions, is the unit you modded a Vevor? And what power station are you using, I have heard the Vevors need 15 amps from the 12 V to start reliably (Most Power stations I've seen like Jackery et al are 10) Thanks!
It is a vevor and the power stations I use only to 10a on the 12 v. never had a problem
@@sherburnoutdoorsThanks! Good Channel, subbed :)
I can't see the link to the pump
Link is buried way down in the description. ☮️
It's actually at the top, but best read the reviews.
LOTS of negative reviews, some saying that it's not any quieter and worse, many saying that it worked for a few hours or few days and the dosing pump just stopped working.
The thing is with that, it raises the questions,
"is the pump so poorly made that it just died"
or worse
"is the pump pulling way too many amps that it pooched the motherboard?"
I wish someone, how has one of these, would do an amperage test then look at the MOSFETS that power it to see their ratings. That might answer this.
You could probably also blimp the intake with some kind of wadded mesh in a mesh bag. It'd have to be loose and not get in there, so it could get a little big, but it would probably quiet it a good deal.
Spray construction foam on it and that's it.
@@xerejuneseve6333 I thought about that
Heat tape wrapped around an exhaust can lead to cracking because of too much heat retained in the pipe and then the cooling after shutdown. How has this fared with this?
I wrapped mine in a little putty tape. And I was surprised how quiet it was after that.
The noisy pump that comes with these?
@noid8814 I was very surprised after I wrapped mine in 4 micro fiber cloths how much noise reduction there was. I didn't think it would work.
Hope you don't run the thing for long out in the cold with the exhaust up. Like that.
I have did 23 nights with the temps around 20 and zero issues
Hi I can't find the amazon pump can you please reply with the link thanks.
amzn.to/3CtCKqf
Same ones on ebay for $ 15
@@Gary-ee3kqyeah I just saw one for $16 free shipping out of Kentucky. I don't have a diesel heater but I put one on my wish list because I'm definitely considering when for ice fishing
@SaltMinerOU812 I was in a bind couple wks ago on a trip because I couldn't sleep with that da*n ticking noise, so I stopped by Harbor Freight to see if I could come up with something. The microfiber cloths were free with a coupon, so I picked those up and wrapped all 4 around the pump and zip tied them twice. Worked great 👍 👌 can barely hear the pump now over the fan.
I did a short on it.
Great presentation. I saved it.
My tip : If you want extreme quietness for the pump > Rubbized spray (tape off the connection wires) Then a pool noodle with zip ties. The rubber spray effects the amount of metal sound coming out And the foam noodle masks what is left from traveling further..
i love that ticking sound i don't even hear it much now
How could you...he didn't shut up the entire video.
@@keithdevendorf63 I have a diesel heater
good job, thank you for finding this.
Fun fact: The exhaust "muffler" is not a silencer. It's a condenser and it do not damp the sound. It's possible to get a real silencer as a little muffler or as a muffler hose.
Other than the condenser function, is it even needed? I ran mine without the 'muffler', seemed to work ok without it.
@@MikeR55
I think you need some way to get rid of the moisture that comes when the fuel burns. So it must depend on how the exhaust system is made and is it possible for the moisture to run out of the exhaust pipe. I have seen a solution where the exhaust pipe had a small drain plug since the condenser was not used. I think i will use it but i have also 2 meter long exhaust silencer and also a real silencer. I'm still in the project thaughts and have not installed my Diesel heater yet.
@@robina.jensen6114Hi, i just bought one and wait for delivering it, im also thinking of adding a real muffler on it. I've got one from a 30-50cc 2 stroke old grass grinding machine. I think it will be better than the original. I could also make a small hole under it in order to drain any water ..
Thank you for the tips 😊
I ordered instantly this quiet pump thanks
I noticed you can buy replacement pumps for 1 - 5 kW pumps. Is the 8 kW quiet and does need replacing.
Keep exhaust downward for condensation
I followed the link for fuel pump and there’s two options. Which one did you use?
ran the exhaust through a radiator and get more heat, also brother when doing exhaust wraps wet the soak the cloth and then wrap you get a tight wrap that will not come undone. great video thanks for showing that an after market pump can take away the tick tick tick.
I bought a 3M long extension and ran it along my garage wall, by the end of tbe exhaust it's cool enough to touch, all that heat is going into my garage instead of outside. Nice efficiency boost.
What portable power station are you using to power the diesel heater?
It is a 500wh Wattfun I bought on Amazon a couple of years ago
HOW can you get one of those fuel tanks???
They sell on Amazon. Here is. Link. amzn.to/48cPkUJ
The exhaust needs to be at a downward angle to allow any condensation to run out.
That exhaust get close to 300 degrees, I am guessing what ever is in there will turn to vapor
@@sherburnoutdoors start up and run down and as it cools it will create acidic condensation…..
Yup, you are right, if people would look on the muffler there is a weep hole on the bottom for this purpose, but who pays attention to details. I've seen some installations where they put the heater in a plastic box and have the burner air intake inside of the box. Sure it will work, but any combustion loves cold dense air to burn efficiently.@@andymccall6861
I think the muffler actually has a small weep hole to drain the condensation
Great video & thanks for sharing. How loud is the pump not that you have been using for a while. One of the review comments said it started quite and then got louder a few weeks later.
Curious to know that myself
Same here. Saw the same Amazon review.
Thank you ❤
You're welcome 😊
Hey I have the 5kw all in one vevor diesel heater and I changed the fuel pump but the one you recommended is still very loud… is it possible I installed it incorrectly?
Ha ha you learned the hard way about itchy hands and fibreglass exhaust tape, always wear gloves before applying exhaust tape.
May I suggest that you lower the exhaust silencer as it has a condensation drain hole in the bottom of it , your exhaust will last a lot longer. Im running two over the winter here in the uk one in a static caravan and on on the side of the house, its saving a lot of money burning kerosene instead of diesel in them.
Thanks for the tips! Only wearing gloves moving forward and I did position it down
Make a box out of foam boardand just sit it over top of the heater with the intake and exhaust outside the box. I do it with all my generators and it eliminates 99% of noise. Slide that thing under your vehicle with that insulated box over top of it and you wount hearba single sound other than the blower fan.
I love the tripod part of the video
Would wrapping the exhaust in heat tape prevent the natural heat radiation from the exhaust, in turn making the housing hotter?
Even if true, I've heard that some people like to run their housings hotter, as they say it lowers coking (suit) in the chamber.
I am not sure, I know with the wrap I put on it was still very hot
Good news, pump is $15 on ebay now.
Not sure that the pump is actually any quieter. I hear the pump when the heater is on low. When it's on full, the noise of the pump is drowned out by the exhaust noise. What do you think? I am going to put some foam insulation around the pump and see what difference that makes. Either way, I would rather be warm.
I actually like the ticking noise
It's a warm tick.
are you running it off a 12v 10amp socket? just got a power station and im using an inverter as my 8kw draws about 150W on start up and theoretically shouldn't work
Yep, 10a
and doesnt draw over 120w?@@sherburnoutdoors
On startup at the beginning gets around 125 to 127
right - that exceeds 12v at 10a...you'd think it'd blow a fuse. interesting. Not sure I will risk it.@@sherburnoutdoors
@@RyanGold19 have had probably 10 trips at 20 degrees with the heater and power station, never had an issue
Did you see a part number on the replacement pump? I bet it might be cheaper sold under a different name
$16 on eBay
If you put the stock pump on its side and facing upwards it will quieter
very hard to find this pump again on sale. did you have another link? Thanks
sorry, this is the one I used on Amazon
the original pump keeps the unit price down but yes better ones are out there
Why don't they just sell a quiet version?
Amen
Right! I just bought one and the ticking is driving me nuts. If there is a solution, why not sell it with it!!! It's maddening, like someone running up and down the stairs.
They do it’s $500
Really so its that quiet? Some Amazon reviews saying its Louder then stock pump & one said the seal blew off the pump & sprayed Diesel every where. Been wanting quit pumps, But they all have such mixed reviews regardless of the brands.
It was way quieter
We never got a chance to hear the pump. It was just talking. :)
the :50 second mark if you payed attention by any chance
Agree, he totally rushed that part of the video... maybe he gets a really nice kickback when ppl buy the "slightly quieter" $50 PUMP ? lol
Just shows don't buy the cheapest heater, pay more get better quality
Pump is noisy. You can hear it ticking away when he was outside next to his green shelter.
Camera picks up the ticking better than your ear.
Camera doesn't pick it up after different pump. I say this is pretty good.
Exactly, dude doesn’t shut the hell up to let anyone here anything!!! Totally Clickbait BS
What if you relocate the fuel tank above the unit? Do we even need a fuel pump? Gravity should feed the burner…or am I wrong and is there some sort of injector that needs pressure in there?
The reason the fuel pump makes noise is because it is literally a click pump and it is absolutely required because the fuel pump is what controls the settings. If you took the fuel pump out the unit would not function or likely just catch on fire because the fuel would just flow through without any restrictions.
The Chinese are smart there aftermarket replacement parts are the real profits
Ear plugs?
That was funny, I still want to be able to hear if I am being attacked by a bear or Jason from Friday the 13th
What brand is this heater??
Vevor
fyi ebay is where to buy them. Cheaper than from China directly and wayy cheaper than amazon
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I first installed a espar heater in my 1998 peterbilt back in 2001. The espar heater was the original, these cheap Chinese heaters was modeled after the espar. I slept under that heater thousands of times in the 17 years I had the truck and not one time did the clicking ever bother me. In some ways I found it comforting, knowing it way 17 degrees outside and my heater was clicking and humming right along. Sad the espar heaters were about $1600.00 even back in 2001 and they are real close to being the same heaters but a huge price difference.
Bad reviews on these upgraded pumps ppl saying they don’t last long
22 nights so far in 20 degree weather and no issues SO FAR.
They last as long as the original ones and are as reliable just a little quieter especially when on max heating.
That noise is just due to cavitation. Just whack the pump a few times with a hard device and while it’s running and it’ll stop being so loud.
I'll give it a shot.
@@Gary-ee3kq make sure you give a couple hard whacks with a hefty metal device like a wrench or something, and it the loudness will stop.
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.
@amochswohntet99 🤣. Letting 2 feet of ❄️ and 🧊 sit on top of the diesel heater stopped the noise of the pump and the fan.
I screwed foot extenders to mine to get rid of burning issue; also helps keeping exhaust pointed down. Wraps only help marginally.
If running outside; the old trick is to drill a 1/8 or smaller hole on bottom of pipe by outlet if you need to point up; lets water drip out and increases flow.
Thank you for the video, nice explanations and tips !!!
Glad it was helpful!
The pump is noisiest when the heater is running on low.
Still a 1000 times better than the one that come with it from the factory
@@sherburnoutdoors ..Just went to your link that you provided and it says "no longer available".
@@steiny3353 I just clicked it, works fine
@@sherburnoutdoors ...hmmmm. I'll try again....thanks
@@sherburnoutdoors ...The link works fine, but they (the pumps) are no longer available and they don't know when they will be available.
Just add some used filtered cooking oil (up to 70%) and the higher viscosity will make the clicking almost silent. Best way to prepare the cooking oil is using some pork gelatine desolved in boiling water, add it to the used oil and mix it. Let it cool down, and most of the gunk will settle at the bottom. Use the clear oil on the top and filter it.
Used cooking a big NO from us and only ise home heating fuel or a decent road diesel as we have been using those heaters for years.
Yeah that's the best thing you can do if you're trying to ruin your heater
@@troy7124 It is for sure not recommended, but I have run it like this for 1 and 1/2 season, with no big issues. For me, it has been a great succes, considering the heater was only 120 euro. Diesel prices here (Europe) are insane, so this is a cheap alternative. I am sure I will need to clean it more often and it will need more regular service intervals, but that is a risk I am willing to take.
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Hi, Nice video! I’ve got a question for you, did you had any smell from your unit? I have just bought one and it smells like burn rubber. Thanks for your time
Let it break in
@@sherburnoutdoors thanks! 👍🤘
I had ruber smell so I return the unit
The smell goes after a few days on high
you'll rot out the exhaust having it pointed up as the vapour cant all escape.
you need a new garage door! 😃
I got one a couple of months ago
Pumps are noisy at low hertz and most quiet at his setting h6
They are but this replacement pump I put on is quieter
Just increase the viscosity of the fuel,, with a drop of oil,,, simple no more clicking,,,