Ultra Quiet Chinese Diesel Heater Fuel Pump Upgrade & Review full time van life
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- Опубликовано: 26 фев 2022
- Ultra Quiet 12V 1-5KW Chinese Diesel Heater Fuel Pump Upgrade & Review is it good for the van life dream?
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Thanks for sharing! The first thing that came to my mind to make the pump be *MUCH* quieter is to firmly attach a container filled with loose lead shot to the pump itself, then isolate the pump + weight from the structure of the van with foam cushion/very flexible fuel line/etc. That will *DRASTICALLY* reduce vibrations being amplified. Another route is to pick up one of these actual silent pumps that a fellow in the UK makes: ruclips.net/video/HOVVoKN5sms/видео.html (Email to contact the maker in the description.)
Cheers!
New pump just a bit quieter , not a lot in it thou
not worth 30 quid
I have found that the best thing for making the pump SILENT, is to wait until your in your seventy's, and your hearing goes . Works for me. Job done.
What?
You'll have to speak up I am not wearing any pants!
Another person on the tubes.. pulled he's heater apart and changed the bearing on the heater fan. That reduces the noise of the fan.
He has his heater installed in a garage
My pump is clad with playdoh, placed insight a 1 litre Ice cream box and mounted vertical. Very quiet, very quiet.
Well that’s a new one on me well done 👍🤓👍👏👏
I will try your idea too. Thanks mate
The ticking sound is being transmitted via longitudinal waves along those hard plastic Diesel tubes/hoses. If you want to avoid this you need to build a loop at input and output and hang the pump loosley together with those loops so it can swing freely.
Thats it
No change to me.
pro BS
I use a 100 cm. length of rubber Diesel hose (3.5 mm I.D) either side of the Pump..with a loop in it..
the Pump is then very Quiet.
another quality vid mate, keep em coming spot on .
Hi Mel. Enjoyed the vid. New pump definitely softer sound, not sure about quieter. But now you’ve got a spare pump. Cheers
The new pump doesn't have as deep a thump as the original but don't think I'd be replacing ours. Great vlog as usual Mel 😁
Great video. New pump definitely quieter tick.
Hi Mel another great video it’s definitely quieter but still noisy someone else had made one in the uk I think it’s about £100 in his garage if you can find that keep up the great work
Hi Mel. Another great video. Yes I'd say that the new pump is a little quieter, but not much.
Mel, please consider replacing those worm drive Jubilee type clips on your heater fuel hoses for proper fuel line clips as they give a much better and more reliable seal.
I used some of the foam out of the diesel heater box to wrap round the pump and cable tied it that seems to have worked pretty well
New one is defo gentler, another great video mel
Just watched your vid. I think the new pump may be a few dB quite, but the bigger difference in sound comes from the frequency/pitch. The old pump was definitely lower in hz, lower frequencies travel farther and are also felt more than higher frequency sounds at the same dB level. Best of luck.....Cheers!
Nice work and good to see you got a result. If possible, I recommend placing the fuel metering pump outside the van - on the underside close to the fuel tank. And as Johannes said, it's also about hard surfaces transferring the noise of the magnetically charged piston action. That equates to the rubber mount you have in place for the pump and additionally, soft mounting the hard fuel line leading from the pump to the heater injector. This hard fuel line cannot be substituted for a soft line on the discharge side of the pump, as its hardness maintains the pump pressure - so your stuck with that. On the safety side of things, I'd also recommend not placing the heater in a location that obscures direct access to, or sight of the unit (often caused by attempts to isolate the noise of the fuel pump by enclosing the unit) and have a serviceable fire extinguisher within the van at all times. Thanks for the good work and keep them coming.
I am just going to be installing my heat in the next weeks coming. I may try to build a small soundproof box around my pump. I have also seen some people putting sound reading material attached to the pump itself. I may try these two things. This video was so helpful.
Hi Mel, thx for the science experiment mate. It gave me food for thought. I did hear someone say recently how they wrapped the pump in heat sponge and lead sheeting and it also reduced significant noise too
Thanks! I am learning so much!
You are absolutely welcome thank you for watching 👍🤓👍
Hi Mel. definitely the new one is quieter. Anything that helps with the nights sleep is worth the investment.
thank you for the videos. that pump does sound like an improvement.
Thank you 😊
thanks for all the work in making the vid ... gives me a lot to think on with my utility trailer build out
You’re absolutely welcome thanks for the positive feedback really means so much good luck with your project 👍🤓👍
The new pump is quieter overall! Nice one!
Great Job.... every decibel counts at the end the day... I thinks it's a win... P.S. I would also try wrapping a noise proof foam around the pump also as it won't effect function but lesson the transfer noise from the metal on metal inside pump.
Huge difference!! Good video. Very informative.
Glad you think so!
Definitely worth it .Anything that helps you get a decent night's sleep is worth paying a bit for . Keep up the good work
Absolutely rite there 👍🤓👍
Hi Mel, nice video👍. I suspended my standard pump under the van from a short piece of thick rubber (a peice of a floor squeegee) about 4" long and, once it reached temperature, you just can't hear it at all inside the van, not even in the dead of night! Even when its getting up to temperature the clicking is only faint. I can send pics if interested?
Can the heater work without a pump if gravity fed.
Great video as usual, I think you might be right about the difference only being the pitch of the click is more like a clock now but £30 is alot of money for such a small improvement. Thanks for sharing so we know not to waste our money 😂👍
You’re absolutely welcome 🙏
Hi definitely a tad quieter. I found if you put the hard plastic pipe inside a slightly larger rubber pipe it really helps to stop the resonance emitted from the hard plastic .
Hi Mel, next time you remove the pump, use brake line clamps to squeeze the rubber tubing, then no air in the system or spillage, or having to 're prime the pump. Great vids keep it up.
Or just stick the old on in there for a moment and only switch for the quick change.
Certainly a little quieter, only a suggestion Mel but try wrapping the pump in a pair of the gaiters, them that hikers use on the bottom of there legs to stop stones ect getting in there boots. I came up with that thought whilst watching your vid, going to try it myself now, 👍
new one much softer Mel would purchase it cheer for the video most helpful keep up the good work my friend
Thank you buddy 👍
Hi Mel...by their design it's a metal piston twacking against a metal face to get the dose, you'll always get a tick until they change the design and maybe put a rubber(or something) face inside the pump, I have mine mounted underneath my van, suspended on thin rubber bungees, so much quieter inside 👍 Great vid to start discussions 🤙
Commented your idea. Heater also out side ?
Hi Mel,
Great video yet again, the new one seems quieter but it isn’t silent as advertised 😂🤣 👍🏼
Thank you 🙏
Your really upping your production quantity your videos lately Mel, nice one 👍
Thank you 🙏
Melted load of glue sticks around mine cant hear a thing
The new pump is definitely quieter. Even if folks don't think the difference is worth the 30 pounds, you now have a spare pump. I would think the pump would be one of the more common items to fail / wear out and with a spare already in hand, it is now a no worries situation. Thanks for Sharing and Cheers from San Diego.
Thank you buddy I’m happy to report that the pump is working great and as actually improved now that I have used it for the winter 👍😊👍
Another great video Mel.. have a great sunday
Thank you buddy
The foam cases sold online also help reduce the sound. Using a rubber band to suspend it will also help reduce the sound transmission more than the zip ties.
Your a great guy Mel and really enjoy your channel , so many thanks old son
Thank you 🙏
I'm thinking about making a insulated box to cover the pump to make it quite. I just installed mine today. I've seen others put the pump under there van.
Nice experiment Mel.
Yes the new one is a little better. But the good thing is you now have a spare one if you have any trouble and no waiting for it . 👍🏻😎👍🏻
I think its worth it, as its always nice to have extra pump and glow plug around. If you already had an extra diesel pump then i would say not worth it but it’s amazing what measures we will go to make something more comfortable and for that its worth it 100 percent mate!
If I had a little "grizzly" wood heater like that I doubt I'd ever use the diesel heater :-) You are right - the "tick" is much more subtle and peaceful. In fact could soothe me to sleep.
I’ve recently got a van with a deisel heater in, I’ve always had woodburners before so know nothing about them. I had been wondering if they run on red though so I was pleased to see you using it which leads me to believe it’ll be just fine yaay! 😄
Yes they work fine on red 👍
Fit pipe insulation over the pump and pipework makes things so much better
Definitely an improvement Mel. It's probably worth the money to some people.
Mel As always great video love to you and Rebecca x
Thank you buddy rite back at ya 🙏
Another great interesting vid Mel, I do wonder why a silent pump car'nt be made in this day and age, thanks again for sharing your knowledge
Thank you 🙏
Excellent video Mel 👍, I recently fitted one this Chinese heaters, not had the chance to test it in the field yet but I will use your suspension method and make a sound deadening box to enclose the pump.
I personally don’t think that green pump is worth the £30 as to my ear the sound is still quite loud.
The genuine German/Russian built units must have a much better designed pump with no metal to metal contact.
Thanks for the vid. I did consider the guiter pump....dont think i bother after seeing this...not so much diffrense. I did cover mine whit sound damping material. Thanks.
Hi Mel, it is a tad quieter, but I wouldn't say 'ultra' quiet and certainly not £30 quieter. Although the ticking didn't bother me too much in my T4, I experimented with sound insulation. The best method I found is to build a box out of 20mm softwood big enough for the pump to fit in and pack it loosely with that cheap foam flooring underlay. Then I hung the box with rubber cords scavenged from an old bungee. By the way, your lighting is much better.
Thank you Debbie 👍
That was exactly what I was gonna comment here. Well done.
I find the fan is far louder than the ticking pump
Hi Mel New pump is quieter interesting video thank for sharing 👍
You’re absolutely welcome Thank you for taking the time to comment 🙏
A LOT BETTER. NOW YOU HAVE A SPARE PUMP. CHEERS
Don't have a heater yet but i think i would surround the pump with a cardboard tube then encapsulate that in roofing insulation/ sound deadening carpet or maybe even expanding foam. thanks for your inspiration.
Sounds like a great idea 👍🤓👍
Is softer, but not £30 softer, oh need to look else where, thanks for making the video.
Definitely quieter. For those interested in quieting the motor by boxing it in remember density is what deadens sound. A metal or plasterboard box will deaden the sound far more than any kind if foam or fibre. Pvc is surprisingly good too, and of course suspend rather than fix to any solid surface.
Excellent video, thanks.
Glad you liked it!
Hi mel, thanks for the test, put my pump under the van, also bought a rubber pump housing off fleabay which also knocks a couple of db's off the ticking. Cant hear mine at all.
Keep up the good work mate
Guy a link to the rubber housing?
I know it's not recommended, but my solution has worked for the last 3 years and I can barely hear the pump. It is just to replace that stiff fuel line with model aircraft silicone rubber tubing all the way up to the short back hose that comes with the pump. The pump is suspended with silicon fuel line rubber as well. Once my enclosure is replaced it's peace no ticking. My fuel run is 2 meters. Keep up the good work.👍👍
That’s brilliant 👍
I saw a video where someone used a silent pump that squished a tube like a dialysis machine and it was 100 percent silent. I'd put it outside in a rubber box! 👍😎
Wrap bubble wrap around the pump, put the wrapped pump in a box and fill the box with expanding foam. Then fix the box to the wall with screws going through rubber grommets. If the pump ever needs changing you can just pull of the foam off and the pump will still be clean inside the bubble wrap.
Hi. I just discovered your channel. I really enjoyed this video. I think the new one ticks in a lower pitch and therefore is a more pleasant, less distributing noise.
Thank you buddy for taking the time to comment really appreciate your feedback 👍
Hi Mel the pump noise also resonates along the hard nylon fuel pipe... So anything the pipe touches also amplifies the noise!
This is best damped by sleeving both pump and pipe in soft foam pipe insulation such as armour flex and not P clipping it to the van structure! Try it!
Thank you buddy
Hi Mel
Came across a youtuber who put his pump in the engine bay no noise no issues
if you were to hang the pump with a piece of paracord or a boot lace it would help to reduce noise that cable ties transmit
£16 on ebay, Jan 23, but, like you say, is it worth the messing.
Great video Mel.
I'd have used kitchen towel/paper and binned it. Save on the washing.
New pump definitely a little quieter probably worth buying as you've now got the original as a spare
New one is definitely quieter 👍job well done😁
Thank you 👍🤓👍
Hi Mel, love the vids. I think for £30 I would have tried building a small sound proof box..as mentioned prior .keep the pump suspended in the wee box. Just my thought, cheers ✌️🇬🇧
Thank you 🙏
Hi Mel i agree with you the new pump does have a slightly softer pulse to it i personally dont think it warrants the £30 price tag but thats down to the individual and how much of a light sleeper you are,a bit of advice and i am speeking from experience, invest in a better quality filter from any motor factors the ones supplied with the kits go very brittle over time and crumble into a million pieces,keep up the great work,stay safe mate.
Thank you buddy 👍
It’s definitely a bit quieter, but I think there is no way to have a silent piston pump really. Thanks for sharing mel
Thank you 🙏
Hi Mel, you been watching willswhereabouts! Mine is outside on a Ducato forward of main fuel tank with sender on main tank and suspended like yours but also double suspended using the rubber mount as well with cable ties, can’t here it at night all. I have seen some channels where they have made a sound proof box suspended with para cord inside the box and silent coat lined, worth a try. Love the channel better than mainstream prime-time TV
Thank you buddy that’s really kind of you 🤓👍
Pack it with Roxul insulation , or do what I did, pack insulation all around it then I bought a small job box , insulated the walls Floor and lid , then added 16 gauge steel over the insulation. I cut holes for exhaust tube and for air intake and outlet , I keep it outside tent and you don’t know it’s even on , the job box keeps Rain and snow out
The new pump is definitely quieter👍👍👍👍👍
Definitely quieter than the old pump😀
I had the same issue of tick tick driving me mad. So bought the plastic cover that covers the pump. Then with old feather pillow. Not sponge! Then wrapped the pump with 4 12 inch bungee straps. It’s totally silent and safe as the pumps don’t run hot. Then use your cable tie like I do to suspend it. Your be amazed. You see films were pillows are used to silence gun fire. Same principle. 😀
Nice 👍
Hi Mel try this take a paper/cardboard egg carton and make a box around the pump it will keep the sound contained in the box cheap and easy
Take care stay safe and God bless you 🙋♂️🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thank you but not necessary it’s quiet as a mouse now
Excellent video thanks
Thank you 🙏
Hey buddy, yeah new one is slightly quieter than the old, though the proof in the pudding would be does it resonate through your pillows while sleeping, and only two people can confirm that, your good self and the better half Becky, all the best mucca
That’s if Becky gets lucky 😂👍
My diesel tank filter and pump are out side of the vehicle and the heater is enclosed in it's Own space under a seat . My noise is only fan noise..
CHEERS 🍻
happy new year Mel the new pump is definitely quieter.i was interested in the sound track you played while moving your personal effects?thanks for the time it took you to make the video.
Watch tonight’s video 👍🤓👍
I wrapped my drinking water pump in my sprinter with foam from a thick yoga mat. It quieted it a lot. I would do the same with yours.
I ended up wrapping that recycled rag insulation around pump then dropped down inside box housing above heater. Only at night when quiet could i hear pump, but not usually on.
Mel, I got to say. I do love watching your videos. They are entertaining and informative. What I really want though…..where can I get a pair of those fancy pants your wearing? Comfort and function in one package? 😂
Thank you 😂👍
Much better QUALITY noise more acceptable for the nerves Keep up the excellent videos Cheers Roland from Encounter Bay South Australia
Thank you Roland 👍🤓👍
A fink it’s a more annoying click a don’t fink worth cost really maté good video
i got exact same pump from Aliexpress. Only took just iver a week to arrive and cost 14 Quid delivered. And like you said the ticking is a lot more suttle and mucg better at night.
Oh nice 👍 I must try and remember to use Aliexpress
Hi Mel my opinion at least a 50% noise reduction thanks for the video keep up the great work regards Gary
Thank you buddy
I apologize for prejudiced comment that assumed this video was like other YT "how-to's". Indeed, this is the rare useful video, although the first six minutes is throwaway. Also consider editing out the brief idle bits. Well done in any case.
Thank you Robert
Yeah I'd say it is definitely a higher pitched ticking and less vibration probably , I was thinking would it be possible to create a sound proof box using the stuff they use in sound recording studios to box the pump in or is that to much off a faff .
Anyway your video quality and presentation is so good now Mel , you could present on telly lol 😆
Take care Glenn
Thank you buddy that’s really kind of you to say 👍🤓👍
Definitely quieter Mel. I would think it is worth the money if you are living in your van, but as a weekend and holiday user I don't think its worth changing mine. Thanks for some Great advice again though. Cheers 👍👍
Thank you 🙏
Definitely more quiet. Discant up noise is more around than old knocking. Also the bottom sound is lighter with thinner ambience!
Build a box for it too maybe?? With some fancy sound proof material? 🤔
New pump does sound like a ticking clock but I’d imagine that when it’s outside the van it would be loads better still.
Great video,as per usual
I’ve had my Chinese diesel heater for at least 4 years now and it’s been a game changer,first winter/Hogmanay I went away with the van it was freezing outside and shorts and T shirt weather inside, I try get away on my days off and having the heater makes it so much more enjoyable.
Atb John 🏴,ps when are you guys coming up to Scotland?
Hi John I’ll be hoping to come up around September this year 👍
Going by your audio clip, I will agree the clicking isn't as sharp as before. Therefore, I'd call this a success!
You can get these pumps for half that price. There are covers available for these pumps too, that help deaden the sound and also protect the pump if mounting on the underside of the vehicle.
All good ideas! Could you wrap the pump in the same rubber/foil baking the pump lies against to make it even quieter?
I would mont in an electrical junction wrapped in vinyl masc or heavy grade carpet underlay it would be effective.
lol. £30 for £3 of change.. thanks nice work as usual..