Ultra Quiet Chinese Diesel Heater Fuel Pump Upgrade & Review full time van life
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- Опубликовано: 7 фев 2025
- Ultra Quiet 12V 1-5KW Chinese Diesel Heater Fuel Pump Upgrade & Review is it good for the van life dream?
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Thanks for sharing! The first thing that came to my mind to make the pump be *MUCH* quieter is to firmly attach a container filled with loose lead shot to the pump itself, then isolate the pump + weight from the structure of the van with foam cushion/very flexible fuel line/etc. That will *DRASTICALLY* reduce vibrations being amplified. Another route is to pick up one of these actual silent pumps that a fellow in the UK makes: ruclips.net/video/HOVVoKN5sms/видео.html (Email to contact the maker in the description.)
Cheers!
New pump just a bit quieter , not a lot in it thou
not worth 30 quid
You got ripped off mate!!!!!
I have found that the best thing for making the pump SILENT, is to wait until your in your seventy's, and your hearing goes . Works for me. Job done.
What?
You'll have to speak up I am not wearing any pants!
Lol
60’s for me!😂
Yes, the new pump is quieter.
My pump is clad with playdoh, placed insight a 1 litre Ice cream box and mounted vertical. Very quiet, very quiet.
Well that’s a new one on me well done 👍🤓👍👏👏
I will try your idea too. Thanks mate
I know it's not recommended, but my solution has worked for the last 3 years and I can barely hear the pump. It is just to replace that stiff fuel line with model aircraft silicone rubber tubing all the way up to the short back hose that comes with the pump. The pump is suspended with silicon fuel line rubber as well. Once my enclosure is replaced it's peace no ticking. My fuel run is 2 meters. Keep up the good work.👍👍
That’s brilliant 👍
Fuel line is going down under the van so you can install your pump under the car. Just put an insulation tape on top of it and that's it.
If I had a little "grizzly" wood heater like that I doubt I'd ever use the diesel heater :-) You are right - the "tick" is much more subtle and peaceful. In fact could soothe me to sleep.
wrap it with the towel!!! towels are ggod soundproof
The foam cases sold online also help reduce the sound. Using a rubber band to suspend it will also help reduce the sound transmission more than the zip ties.
Rubber bands become brittle super quickly. Last thing I want is something hanging from a friggin rubber band under my van
Hi Mel, it is a tad quieter, but I wouldn't say 'ultra' quiet and certainly not £30 quieter. Although the ticking didn't bother me too much in my T4, I experimented with sound insulation. The best method I found is to build a box out of 20mm softwood big enough for the pump to fit in and pack it loosely with that cheap foam flooring underlay. Then I hung the box with rubber cords scavenged from an old bungee. By the way, your lighting is much better.
Thank you Debbie 👍
That was exactly what I was gonna comment here. Well done.
I find the fan is far louder than the ticking pump
The ticking sound is being transmitted via longitudinal waves along those hard plastic Diesel tubes/hoses. If you want to avoid this you need to build a loop at input and output and hang the pump loosley together with those loops so it can swing freely.
Thats it
No change to me.
pro BS
I use a 100 cm. length of rubber Diesel hose (3.5 mm I.D) either side of the Pump..with a loop in it..
the Pump is then very Quiet.
Well mate, I was hoping for the eureka moment.....not sure it happened...think I'll just stick with the stock version....thanks for being the guinea pig though 😁
It sounds a little bit quieter but if you can sleep with it on with the old pump and want to save $30 go for it Personally my all-in-one 8 kW Chinese diesel heater the pump actually puts me to sleep kind of reminds me of a clock ticking after a while I don't even hear it which is kind of Funny It's usually the time I have the most problem sleeping is my 1st night back in the Van after I'd been on some hometime trying to get reused to the sounds again
Well greetings from Tennessee... Well the video is 2 years old but try this trick. I noticed that the installation behind the pump. What if you cover the pump with an insulation box of the same insulation that's mounted to the wall and use some foil tape to put it all together. Maybe some Velcro with some adhesive tape already on the Velcro strips so it can be serviced without having to cut the foil tape every time you have to inspect it...🤔
Thank you for sharing your ideas since making this video I have now mounted the pump underneath the van and have it hooked up hanging loose and can’t hear anything maybe I should make a follow up video 🍻🫶👍
You have cut 50% of clicking noise. You can probably reduce the noise another 50% by cover sealing the new fuel pump with rubber or silicone. You should also replace the cheap fuel line with silicone and soft rubber clips
Next time mount the pump on out side of vehicle on rubber and seround it with pink Insulation!!!
I saw a video where someone used a silent pump that squished a tube like a dialysis machine and it was 100 percent silent. I'd put it outside in a rubber box! 👍😎
Great content! I learned some things I’m going to use. Tip: no one wants to see you moving boxes for a solid minute. Edit it out.
Thanks for the tip!
The most silent way to do so, is to put the diesel pump outside of the van a little above the fuel tank still is the best option, all trucks have them outside the truck.
What about gelling in cold temps?
I would put it in a foam tube an tape it up to deaden the noise.
Another person on the tubes.. pulled he's heater apart and changed the bearing on the heater fan. That reduces the noise of the fan.
He has his heater installed in a garage
Absolutely worth the 30 bucks! The new pump is way quieter.
Best regards from a camper van dude from germany!
Thank you 👍🤓👍
The best sound deadener is the blue towel you used to catch the diesel drips. Towelling material is by far the best for overall sound insulation. Has a sound absorption rate that is higher than most professional studio sound barriers.
I've heard a tupperware box full of sand is good too.
lol. £30 for £3 of change.. thanks nice work as usual..
Build a box for it too maybe?? With some fancy sound proof material? 🤔
My diesel tank filter and pump are out side of the vehicle and the heater is enclosed in it's Own space under a seat . My noise is only fan noise..
CHEERS 🍻
I got one of these earlier this year and installed it in a dimly lit area but neglected to take off one of the barely visible plastic covers on the fuel pipes, then got very annoyed after I couldn't get it to prime. Finally twigged on my mistake 🤦♂And yep it's a bit quieter than the original, much less metallic clunking noise compared to the original. On a side note; I have a Japanese paraffin fired heater that uses a similar piston pump and those are inaudible. i did consider buying one to try out, but they cost more than a whole Chinese diesel heater at over £100!! I think I'll just put up with the clicking.
Wrap bubble wrap around the pump, put the wrapped pump in a box and fill the box with expanding foam. Then fix the box to the wall with screws going through rubber grommets. If the pump ever needs changing you can just pull of the foam off and the pump will still be clean inside the bubble wrap.
It’s a little quieter. Try using sound deadening Materials to encase it.
A LOT BETTER. NOW YOU HAVE A SPARE PUMP. CHEERS
Fortunately I can't relate. I have managed to tune the pump thumping out. But I will certainly tell you it shoots my girlfriend through the roof. When it is cold she manages to get over it and others have made a point of letting me know the noise is present. So there is absolutely a market for a quiet pump. Perhaps ignoring annoying noises is my SuperPower. I'm sure my girlfriend has an opinion on that.
Nice one 😂👍
Mel! Fire up your db meter app!
New pump definitely a little quieter probably worth buying as you've now got the original as a spare
Put your pump in a plastic junction box fill it with sound deadening material ie dodo mat 👍
Going by your audio clip, I will agree the clicking isn't as sharp as before. Therefore, I'd call this a success!
Your a great guy Mel and really enjoy your channel , so many thanks old son
Thank you 🙏
Hi Mel great vid £30 is cheap for a good night s kip👍
Thank you and yes it is 👍
Hi Mel
Came across a youtuber who put his pump in the engine bay no noise no issues
The pump internals is metal on metal. You won’t get rid of the noise. I would imagine it will get louder again, in time, with wear. I wouldn’t bother, tbh. All the best 👍🏾🇬🇧
I ve got a Chinese diesel heater on an outside wall heating my living room, the pump is in a custom made 6mm plywood box and is suspended inside the cabinet that houses the heater,, with brass cup hooks and four lengths of 6mm bungee chord it is silent.
Mel As always great video love to you and Rebecca x
Thank you buddy rite back at ya 🙏
Mel, I got to say. I do love watching your videos. They are entertaining and informative. What I really want though…..where can I get a pair of those fancy pants your wearing? Comfort and function in one package? 😂
Thank you 😂👍
Does a little even if it’s just a change in tone. Guess living with it a while is the only way to know.
fire proof insulation will make it very quiet, just make sure to wear gloves if its fiberglass, and use rubber bands or zip ties🪗😜🚬👌
Maybe try rubber fuel line and put it in a box then fill the box with sand ,its an old motorcycle trick fill the handlebars with sand to take vibration out the motor made ? just a thought 🤷♂️
The new pump definitely has a nice tick and not a clack like the old one.
It’s even better now it’s been used for a while 👍
Hi Mel Its slightly quieter but minimal Dave
I'm thinking about making a insulated box to cover the pump to make it quite. I just installed mine today. I've seen others put the pump under there van.
Don't forget to hang the pump box with cup hooks and 6mm bungee chords then it will be silent.
You can get these pumps for half that price. There are covers available for these pumps too, that help deaden the sound and also protect the pump if mounting on the underside of the vehicle.
From the audio samples provided, the old one is definitely louder.
I would go with the new one. But there are better but cost 3x more. Thx for sharing
Good choice!👍
A fink it’s a more annoying click a don’t fink worth cost really maté good video
Definitely more quiet. Discant up noise is more around than old knocking. Also the bottom sound is lighter with thinner ambience!
New pump is definitely sounds quieter and now you have a spare pump.
That’s a great point 👍☺️🤙
Hi Mel
I've purchased a fuel pump from a guy who makes his own diaphragm pumps, absolutely 100% silent....£120 but a cracking bit of kit, real game changer...
Maybe you're already on the case....
Hi pal have you got any info on where to buy one please?
Why would anybody spend more money on a pump than they spent on the entire heater? 120 for a pump is literal clownshit
The new one is certainly better on the ears ,but 30 spondulis ,not sure 👍
Thanks for the vid. I did consider the guiter pump....dont think i bother after seeing this...not so much diffrense. I did cover mine whit sound damping material. Thanks.
The new pump is definitely quieter. Even if folks don't think the difference is worth the 30 pounds, you now have a spare pump. I would think the pump would be one of the more common items to fail / wear out and with a spare already in hand, it is now a no worries situation. Thanks for Sharing and Cheers from San Diego.
Thank you buddy I’m happy to report that the pump is working great and as actually improved now that I have used it for the winter 👍😊👍
I did it very simple to ours. Use a car radiator hose. I am into the automotive sector. So i could get one what perfectly fits around the pump. Only the connector part could not fit. Put at the other site whats is free another thick rubber hose into the bigger one so that a lot of the pump is covered with rubber. Big difference according old situation. You can hear it ofcourse but a huge difference than before and at a very comfy level. Think simpel…..
In a similar vain, 2 of mine are in short pieces of lead waste pipe, with a heavy white fiberglass(i think) insulation stuffed in the ends, and suspended from rubber hangers, which dropped the noise level a fair bit.
Another system has a pump that was claimed to be quieter, bought from heatport(new zealand) called a type E (22mls/SKU: HP-10788 Brand: HEATPORT), which makes a similar difference to the one shown here, so thinking i will try a lead case on it next as well.
Also going to try a lead pipe muffler, as using a 1m length on my old Chinese 5kw diesel generator, shut it up considerably.
Just a little quieter/softer. Before spending £30 on the so called quieter pump, I'd try sound insulating the original pump by putting it in a few egg boxes, the fiber ones not the plastic ones.
Hi Mel try this take a paper/cardboard egg carton and make a box around the pump it will keep the sound contained in the box cheap and easy
Take care stay safe and God bless you 🙋♂️🇬🇧🇺🇸
Thank you but not necessary it’s quiet as a mouse now
£16 on ebay, Jan 23, but, like you say, is it worth the messing.
Great video Mel.
I'd have used kitchen towel/paper and binned it. Save on the washing.
Hi Mel, Why don't you put the pump under the van ?, I've had mine professionally fitted outside direct to the diesel main van tank
No ticking can be herd what so ever, also no smell of diesel in the van if there was a leak or spillage. I watch your videos with interest very good indeed. Dare I say it regards Mel. Yes another Mel Lol.
Is softer, but not £30 softer, oh need to look else where, thanks for making the video.
It’s definitely a bit quieter, but I think there is no way to have a silent piston pump really. Thanks for sharing mel
Thank you 🙏
The new pump is quieter overall! Nice one!
Pack it with Roxul insulation , or do what I did, pack insulation all around it then I bought a small job box , insulated the walls Floor and lid , then added 16 gauge steel over the insulation. I cut holes for exhaust tube and for air intake and outlet , I keep it outside tent and you don’t know it’s even on , the job box keeps Rain and snow out
Nice experiment Mel.
Definitely worth it .Anything that helps you get a decent night's sleep is worth paying a bit for . Keep up the good work
Absolutely rite there 👍🤓👍
Only just a little quieter. New sound is a bit softer
New one is quieter. If it helps u sleep then it's worth it👍
The new pump is quieter.
There is not as much of a thudding sound.
In wills(wills ware abouts) heater it sounds so quiet..
It must be a different pump..
Great video as always
Thank you 🙏
New one is defo gentler, another great video mel
Diesel ignites and burns by being compressed so the 'pump' is really a piston, which will make a noise. Try moving outside under the van.
I apologize for prejudiced comment that assumed this video was like other YT "how-to's". Indeed, this is the rare useful video, although the first six minutes is throwaway. Also consider editing out the brief idle bits. Well done in any case.
Thank you Robert
Think I'll save the £30 and put the pump under the van.. Nice vid mate cheers,, saved me £30.
No problem glad to hear 👍
Hi Mel, thx for the science experiment mate. It gave me food for thought. I did hear someone say recently how they wrapped the pump in heat sponge and lead sheeting and it also reduced significant noise too
New one is quieter, and a lower note too.... Your call on if it's worth the 30 notes Mel!
Thank you 🙏
Sounds a bit quieter too me, I would buy that pump as any improvement however small would be an advantage to me personally 👍
Fit pipe insulation over the pump and pipework makes things so much better
Hello, ye the first one definitely had more of a thud. The second one wasn't really quiet but less thudding. Like the huge nut hatch had a visit from his little brother. I don't think you waisted your money, even though there wasn't a remarkable difference. Good video I am thinking of getting a heater, but think they are noisey. Thanks Ray
Certainly a little quieter, only a suggestion Mel but try wrapping the pump in a pair of the gaiters, them that hikers use on the bottom of there legs to stop stones ect getting in there boots. I came up with that thought whilst watching your vid, going to try it myself now, 👍
Hi Mel why don't you just mount it and the filter under the van put a fuel line loop at each end and mount it to the rubber holder that comes with it... I used the original pump that come with the heater and its silent....... i have the opposite problem now I have to get under the van to make sure it's still ticking .
I made my fuel pump 100% quiet by taking a 4" diameter piece of PVC pipe - 20" long , putting caps on the ends , drilling holes in the end caps for fuel hose to come thru. lined the inside with 8mm flameproof sound deadener and on the outside 15mm sound deadener. Strapped that to the wall and now ZERO tik tik tik at night.
Cheers.
Hi Mel. definitely the new one is quieter. Anything that helps with the nights sleep is worth the investment.
Mel, please consider replacing those worm drive Jubilee type clips on your heater fuel hoses for proper fuel line clips as they give a much better and more reliable seal.
there is no high pressure side on the pump also it should be outside underneath away from sleeping areas.
Well it is definitely quieter so if it means you can't hear it when laid in your bed then £30 quid well spent.this will help others with the same problem. Well done again you cracked it.
Thank you buddy
Definitely quieter. For those interested in quieting the motor by boxing it in remember density is what deadens sound. A metal or plasterboard box will deaden the sound far more than any kind if foam or fibre. Pvc is surprisingly good too, and of course suspend rather than fix to any solid surface.
I wrapped my drinking water pump in my sprinter with foam from a thick yoga mat. It quieted it a lot. I would do the same with yours.
Old pump sounded very hard ticking, new one was Definitly more softer but all in all not a great change to be honest,
As a lorry driver I have used lots of different heaters and they all have noise, sometimes just the air coming out but always a noise, I don't think a silent heater excists but would be nice
Mel I would mount your pump vertically. They make air and mounted the way you have it lets air build up in corner of pump = noise. They say mount like you have yours, but you cannot mount vertically on vehicle frame if you wanted to that's why they say mount at angle. I have my pump mounted vertically from four springs in a channel made of wood. it just sits there jiggling around and very quiet. Air cannot get trapped and increase noise. Plus, its completely lubricated at all times no dry areas for piston to wear out. You have room to mount vertically. Cheers Ed
Oh that’s really interesting thank you 🙏
@@BigVanSmallWorld Did you try what Tex dog 2 recommended? Curious. Video?
😊k lol
I’m wondering why all the instructions say to have it at 30 degrees?
If assembled vertically, how to put feeding? Fuel input up or down?
I don't notice much difference in your volume, the new one sounds higher pitch and the old one has more thud. I think since you've mounted yours inside the van, you'll make it much quieter by wrapping the pump in a towel or microfibre cloth and suspending it from bungee cords.
I have exactly the same brand heater as you. It sounded the same when it started up and I got inconsistent performance because it's under my van and I couldn't avoid having some sections of pipe travelling downward from the pump like yours.
It was the air bubbles caused by the diameter of that pipe, and changed it for 2mm ID nylon tube which gets no air bubbles even when fuel is travelling downward. I think the smaller internal diameter makes the fuel delivery more precise.
great vid and info but maybe give your heater a better way to suck in air the that tiny space between it and the wall and if its eaier for it it will work much better! path of least resistance and all that is a real thing
I bought the silent pump from james and it was 100% silent (it was heaven) for £99 but it lasted less then 3 months so now back on the van banger.☹
I’m sorry to hear that I don’t know James
Hi Mel New pump is quieter interesting video thank for sharing 👍
You’re absolutely welcome Thank you for taking the time to comment 🙏
Hey buddy, yeah new one is slightly quieter than the old, though the proof in the pudding would be does it resonate through your pillows while sleeping, and only two people can confirm that, your good self and the better half Becky, all the best mucca
That’s if Becky gets lucky 😂👍
Hi. I just discovered your channel. I really enjoyed this video. I think the new one ticks in a lower pitch and therefore is a more pleasant, less distributing noise.
Thank you buddy for taking the time to comment really appreciate your feedback 👍
I used some of the foam out of the diesel heater box to wrap round the pump and cable tied it that seems to have worked pretty well
I would mont in an electrical junction wrapped in vinyl masc or heavy grade carpet underlay it would be effective.
New one is quieter, but for someone who lived mostly in a truck all over europe and asia, a erberspacher makes less noise, with just a very quiet tic tic, rather than a tica tica. But Im about to fit a cheap chinese one in my caravan because an erberspacher is over £500. Ill mount the pump outside on a rubber hanger.
Yes the new one is a little better. But the good thing is you now have a spare one if you have any trouble and no waiting for it . 👍🏻😎👍🏻