What I said is a little confusing but 100% accurate. Sony outputs 8bit, but because the external recorder ONLY records 10bit, it actually re-wraps the 8bit signal into a 10 bit 422 container......at which case, there is no benefit for low light recording, in fact, just the opposite. You get a cleaner noise floor shooting internally.
That is totally correct, but you're still not getting what we are saying. PRORES is minimum 10bit. The output of the Sony is 8-bit, but once its recorded to Prores its re-wrapped into 10 bit. (its not real 10 bit in this case, the space is unused, but it is technically in a 10-bit container) Check the white papers on Prores for a deep dive. you'll find all this down below. :) support.apple.com/en-us/HT202410
MAKE. ART. NOW. That is 100% irrelevant. If the original signal is 8bit there”s nothing you can do to better it. You can record it to a 20bit container and it would be the exact same. So, that was kinda of a silly test. Great video anyway!
HEY GUYS A FEW THINGS TO CLARIFY. 1. You can use 120p slowmo at night, the base noise values will be a little higher than when shooting at 24p or 30p, but its still doable! 2. The custom picture we made KILLZ noise at the expense of dynamic range and it forces a lot of dark areas into down into the shadows, if the profile looks too dark for taste, try the black levels and black gamma at +2 instead of -2. This is for YOU guys to experiment and try. 3. This video was meant to give you my profile that works for me, it may not work for you, it may not be suited for someone just learning. So experiment around and give yourself time to figure it out. Good Luck!
It's not a hack, you can do it by manually inputting the settings instead of using S Q. I use my 4K 25fps 100mbps on the 1 Dial and HD 100 fps 100mbps on my 2 Dial. (Don't have 120 fps because I'm from europe and we use PAL)
Josh, thank you so very much. Tried your settings on a night / open air / super basic lighting concert (and very dark skin black singer) and it worked great... Yes, darks are more present/evident, but it was ok. Especially noise wise: inexistent or almost ! You're awesome... ... I'd love you to give us a guide for daylight slog settings too (a general one, I understand it's very variable), would be awesome for noobs scared of slog like me haha... Thanks again for making me dare to use slog haha!
I bought this camera because of you, Truly an amazing camera! Can't wait to try this PP out tonight! These settings worked great on my Ax100 & Ax700 4k Camcorders!! Thank you so much brother
I love how he actually explains the why behind what he's doing. A lot of tutorials out there would just throw numbers at you and tell you this is the perfect solution for everything.
After watching this a couple of times AND "liking" it, I didn't think that was explained clearly at all. It looked like a spreadsheet rough guesswork with nice results. The following is just my line of thinking, I'm open to it being corrected. - Dropping saturation makes sense for "wiggle room" as he correctly says, but later he states that it helps with noise, which I'm really not sure why that would be at all. Noise "happens" on the sensor. When the desaturation algo kicks in later, it doesn't care, it can't differentiate what's noise and what's not, it doesn't know. So once you try to bring the colors back (which you're going to), you're 1) going to experience the wrath of 8-bit 4:2:0 color encoding which had less info to differentiate when encoding, 2) your denoiser I suppose might also stumble because of that? maybe and maybe not. - People should understand the main idea and I didn't feel it was explained. AFAIU the idea is to crush lows completely cause we only want something that's lit up, shortening the dynamic range but not quite. So how exactly the new profile helps with that? By manually sacrificing stops. I don't think most people got it from the ad-like tone that the channels has to keep up, that's the style. But it's not like the profile is somehow upgrading the camera's sensor. It's a good middleground between REC.709 and Logs. Which Sony includes out of the box?.. :) I also think that measuring noise with Neat Video before grading is sus, exactly because the saturation in-camera was lower, so naturally it has "less noise" cause the pixels don't differ that much. But we ARE going to bring that metric (saturation) right back up in post, and it's going to be, at the very least, less detailed now. Probably not a problem, but probably not an advantage. We never saw a PP2 vs "new profile" comparison, if I'm not mistaken. "This profile is going to work on any Alpha cameras". So how does one define "works"? There are these settings, yes. But it would look pretty bad on my Sony A7ii all things considered cause my sensor is way worse and I can't shoot 4k without an external thing. Do you count that as misleading? It's not out of bad intention, but it's absolutely not a tutorial. It's an entertainment video. One thing I agree with: most "tutorials" are much worse. There was one peep who was complaining about S-log2 SO MUCH, how bad it is and how you can't work with it, and I had better results from a _screengrab_ of his footage in 2 two minutes than him from raw material. People don't know what they're doing, and you can tell. Here, it definitely looks the part, which is great. The man knows his job. All the inserts, all the editing, the tempo, the switch-ups, everything.
2nd time watching (revisiting) this tutorial a few months after watching it the first time and it's just miles better than most other tutorials out there. Staright to the point, super informative, very well explained (especially the logic / math behind the custom profile) and like all your other videos just gets me fired up! Such a beast at videography!🔥
Absolutely. So much in there to digest (and so much that Make.Art. didn't say that were the many tiny conceptual steps that give him the understanding to make the choices he did). Plus I found myself trying to figure out HOW he made the shots he showed -- this guy CAN DO videography. Thanks for the gift of knowledge!!!
Went back into my watch history and searched low light to find this video again because the settings worked so great for me the first time I used it on my A6300.
2 years later and this video is still relevant. Your work is inspiring to video creators all over the internet. I just wanted to stop by and thank you for your service and dedication!
I used your settings tonight and...........they actually sucks........NOT !! Your settings blew my socks of !!!!! WOW, this was really something !!! No noise, good colors and so on. Thank you so much when it comes to low light !!!!
always said nerds will conquer the world, i'll be your assistant when it'll happen. switching from canon to sony, and THIS VIDEO, DAAAMN boi...thanks very much from italy.
Loooved the actual mathematical explanation behind the profile dude, much more intuitive than a lot of other videos where they just vomit a series of numbers at you followed by "trust me. I be a photographer". Kudos man!
I remembered this video from a few years ago, and I'm about to go out and shoot some stuff at night where I don't want to bring my main camera because it's kind of shady, and so I still have my a6400, and so just when I needed something like this, there you still are. Thank you so much! So Awesome. (OKay... I'm editing this now that I just got home after testing this with my Sony a6400. Damn, Yo, this is insane!! I never understood when people would say the Sony a6400 was such a great low light camera. I was like, "really???????", but I used your settings tonight, and ..... wow. I'll just say that. Crazy high ISO settings, although I shot with the Sony 35mm f/1.8 OSS lens at f/1.8, which was really helpful, but still, high ISO and pretty much flawless. Crazy good. Certainly useful as an incredibly "under" understatement. I'm sending every Sony shooter I know to this video so that they get schooled on this. Such great information, and actually an amazing contribution for people who are smart enough to take advantage of it and learn from it. What RUclips should be. Mad stoopid plethora's of thank you's, in multitudes!!! So awesome.)
honestly I don't know why it took me this long to find your content but you are quickly becoming my favorite channel to learn from.. keep killing it !!!
I've spent countless hours watching shit about cameras and this camera specifically and have never seen it done better than this across the board. You're the man. You give amazing value and explain everything so well. Glad I found you. Keep crushing it, man. Subscribed for sure.
Perfect timing! I am going to shoot my son’s concert tonight with an A7iii. The theme is 80’s night. Maybe we can have some fun with the colors in post. Thanks for another great video.
Sorry for the super tardy reply. I got caught up with other comments right after the original post. The set up at the concert didn't really allow for great footage secondary to limited angles and cramped quarters. However, I did just finish a project for a family trip down to Coronado. I used Josh's custom PP2 profile for some low light footage around the outdoor patio of McP's Irish Pub (Coronado), which came out well. The patio had multiple green fluorescent lights with large multi-colored hanging bulbs strung overhead. I didn't have to color grade too much as per luma waveform or RGB overlay to achieve an exposure and color distribution to my liking. There was a lot of room left to tweak. The footage was similar to his "Chinatown" shot in this video. I used S-Log2 for daytime footage and Variable ND filter for convenience chasing around the family, trying not to miss the moment. I'm nowhere near a professional, but loving every bit of the hobby and trying to capture memories the best way that I can. Thanks for the tips, Josh!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL So love this video, however, I have yet to shoot video-I specialize in portrait shots. Does this profile work for stills as well? My A7III (regardless of lens) is far too grainy in low light. Thanks in advance for your hopeful response. Huie (Bay Area)
Out of most of the tutorials I have watched that show settings for low light, none reduced the noise as well as this one!!! Saved as my go to night profile. Close to perfect blacks with no noise. Yes please.
This is by far the best custom profile i’ve ever seen in youtube. I set it, used it, and worked perfect!! I would love having a good profile for normal situations. I don’t know, but s-log hasn’t given me the no-noise look at daylight.
I just finished editing a video I started recording in the afternoon but most of it happened at night and the colors and noise were really bad. After a google search I ended up in this video. So my man, I can only say thank you. Your research was well done, this video is very informative and straight forward. Love it.
Thanks ,I'm most cannon user & recently switched to Sony videography. Got a couple projects shooting the solar eclipse in low light away from the city lights. This setup profile its perfect .
holy crap. Thank you. I have a wedding reception to shoot tomorrow on my Sony a7iii and this is exactly what I needed. I have some lights and a quick lens but this is the nitty gritty I needed.
Just be careful as with this profile you will clip lights, so you may want to test a few shots out first. I would recommend potentially shooting normal profile off in that case and use the lens to expose.
I could not wait to try this. A friend of mine does light and sound for events. His last event was inside a cave. Super crazy location. And I shot some nice B-Roll for his company. Thanks to your settings there is no noise in the shadows and the highlights are crispy.
Hi - can you clarify your definitions around lowlight? I'm looking primarily for twilight settings for real estate shots. Most of your footage examples were definitely Night. Would this profile work well for twilight? Or would you tweak it? If you did tweak it, what would you adjust? Thanks! Awesome videos and teaching style BTW
A year or two after this video was made so I'm late to the party but thanks you nailed a gorgeous profile for the shoot im on right now a few minor tweaks I made but the foundation was wonderful to start from
just bought an a7iii and want to start doing more video stuff and i somehow just stumbled upon your channel. this vid checks like every box for me, love the borderline-neurotic analysis. your style is also dope, love how straightforward your presentation is. that's a DEEP SUB from me pal
Dude I was struggling with figuring this out. I kept getting freakin ugly noisy footage on a camera known for great noise control. Your video is awesome much appreciated. I tested and right away huge difference!
Well done! I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. It is really helpful. So I have my lowlight profile now but I'm still debating what to go with for daylight. Cine4, SLOG 2 or HGL 3. I have seen many videos but non of them really convince me like you did with this one. Can you make a video to determine which settings are better for daylight?
I make quick test on my a6300 with your settings and Im really impressed.. I shoot all my night videos on slog2 and I was quite happy about clean look but after test I see that I have better colours , more light , less noise... must check It in outside conditions but great job men! Definatelly sub ! lot of knowledge here ! Thx!
Since this is a Sony video I know exactly how to increase its views big time watch.Once you go up on Sonyalpharumors youll become a big shot. Working on it
Thanks. looking forward to it. I am following you to improve my daughter's youtube channel. appreciate your help bro. keep up the good work. I already subbed...........thumbs up
Awesome video - would love to see a similar one on how you hand SLOG / Daytime settings and grading ( particularly with talent / skintones etc ) - keep up the great work!
Hi, thank you for this great video! What about exposure? You said to expose for the midtones and it's ok. But do you overexpose like log (+1.7/2.0) or keep the +0.0? Thank you!
I've been searching for good settings for night shooting on my a6500!! I haven't been thrilled with the cinegammas at all in low light and have stuck to slog2 even in very low light. Stills gamma is impressively clean though! I ran some of my own comparison tests and I've found that I was happier with stills when black level and black gamma were both set to 0. That seemed to capture a little more detail while still remaining super clean although it seemed there was something about the -2/-2 that I liked that I couldn't quite place my finger on. Your thoughts on that and why you chose to drop black setting? Is in camera settings like this different than dropping levels in post due to the way signal is processed? Also, even at ISO 6400 (when I can get a proper 2 stops overexposure) slog2 seems to capture so much more information than any other gamma at the cost of just a bit of visible noise (which may be unacceptable to some) after applying the free (and awesome) renegade2 slog2 to rec709 LUT. Neat video may be enough to make it useable though. I know the science (bro science included) says slog2 is a no no in low light especially at high ISO where dynamic range is supposedly crushed. I have been getting fantastic results. I can only imagine the ff a7iii results would be even better. It's a topic of high interest to me because I shoot a lot of low light and I want to make the most of my camera and I'm very open to discussion on this.
You say: We do not need the dynamic range, its at night. It may sound weird but exactly at nigh it is, in my understanding and experience, where you have the most contrasty situations, where you have very bright lights and very dark non lit areas in one image. In my experience, I either expose for the lights and sacrifice the dark areas which are drowning in black, or I expose for the shadows and sacrifice the lights, clipping into whiteness. I have tried S-Log profiles at night and, obiously noise is a huge issue. However, besides noise, I have information in all areas of the image and the highlight roll-off looks dramatically better and I have more details in the dark areas. I am not suggesting log for low-light, but I would loooove to have a log-profile that works in low-light since I am struggeling to get good looking images at dark with any other PP. Thanks for your videos mate, they are motivating and pleasant to watch. Respect.
well, you are wrong about one thing here... you are a freakin scientist! Just picked up my a7iii because of your vids (even tho the a7s iii was just released) - keep it up, man!
Honestly I learned so much from this. Seriously, well done. I love all the facts and how you pieced it together. Lots of information, great pace, not boring. With that being said, you might actually have an answer to this! **Pertaining to a6500** So I read an article that stated, "When shooting 4K in Super 35mm (25p/24p), the camera uses the sensor's full pixel readout without pixel binning to collect 6K of information-roughly 2.4x as many pixels as 4K UHD" I use an a6500, and it offers 60fps at 50M Super 35mm, and 120fps at 100M (No Super 35mm option for 120fps). I usually find shooting at 60fps perfect for my slow motion needs, but I usually shoot at 120 due to the 100M. Do you think that, even though the 60fps only offers 50M and Super 35mm (so full pixel readout), it's better quality than 120fps at 100M without Super 35mm (regular lighting and low lighting)? Thanks!
Amazing video really appreciate the effort. Think you could make a new video about your daytime picture profiles? You kind of go over it in your previous video (maybe it’s just pp7?) but I think that could be super helpful. Thanks!!!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL Just found this setting video for night time, thank you so much for sharing this greatness! Would you happen to have any update on how the daytime picture profile is coming along? Would love to set some sick results in the day time as well :) appreciate all the quality tutorial videos you've made man. P.S Just watched your first film, heck, even though I can't count how many short films I've made, they are nowhere close to Josh Yeo caliber. Hate you so much lol
120p is clean in the day, and noisy in low light. so use a very fast lens, try bringing in practicals or use ambient line. use the profile I made, but keep gamma and black gamma at 0. and last try breaking the 180 degree shutter rule. You may be able to get away with shooting 1/125 shutter speed instead of having to shoot 1/250 (this will vary from subject to subject, the slower moving subject the better) GOOD LUCK!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL Gamma and Black Gamma? In the options for Gamma, I only see options such as "Still", "Cine1" etc. I don't see any numerical values. Were you referring to "Black Level" and "Black Gamma", Both set to 0?
Your technical knowledge is so refreshing. I had a “professional” DOP shooting an advert which I had to cut and grade and they shot log the whole time and it was all nighttime shooting. Was a nightmare
Sony a7iii can't do 10bit
What I said is a little confusing but 100% accurate. Sony outputs 8bit, but because the external recorder ONLY records 10bit, it actually re-wraps the 8bit signal into a 10 bit 422 container......at which case, there is no benefit for low light recording, in fact, just the opposite. You get a cleaner noise floor shooting internally.
Yes it can, just not in the body as he said clearly, 10 bit was with external monitor with HDMI output, cheers!
That is totally correct, but you're still not getting what we are saying. PRORES is minimum 10bit. The output of the Sony is 8-bit, but once its recorded to Prores its re-wrapped into 10 bit. (its not real 10 bit in this case, the space is unused, but it is technically in a 10-bit container)
Check the white papers on Prores for a deep dive. you'll find all this down below. :)
support.apple.com/en-us/HT202410
MAKE. ART. NOW. That is 100% irrelevant. If the original signal is 8bit there”s nothing you can do to better it. You can record it to a 20bit container and it would be the exact same. So, that was kinda of a silly test. Great video anyway!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL It wasn't confusing at all - you said it just fine. Hahah. Ahh RUclips. Sensational
HEY GUYS A FEW THINGS TO CLARIFY.
1. You can use 120p slowmo at night, the base noise values will be a little higher than when shooting at 24p or 30p, but its still doable!
2. The custom picture we made KILLZ noise at the expense of dynamic range and it forces a lot of dark areas into down into the shadows, if the profile looks too dark for taste, try the black levels and black gamma at +2 instead of -2. This is for YOU guys to experiment and try.
3. This video was meant to give you my profile that works for me, it may not work for you, it may not be suited for someone just learning. So experiment around and give yourself time to figure it out. Good Luck!
is it possible to hack cam to 100mbps instead of 60mbps in 120fps mode?
It's not a hack, you can do it by manually inputting the settings instead of using S Q. I use my 4K 25fps 100mbps on the 1 Dial and HD 100 fps 100mbps on my 2 Dial. (Don't have 120 fps because I'm from europe and we use PAL)
but you can switch on NTSC mode) just check it out in settings. and on postproduction use 25 fps (u can slow-mo much more)
Josh, thank you so very much. Tried your settings on a night / open air / super basic lighting concert (and very dark skin black singer) and it worked great... Yes, darks are more present/evident, but it was ok. Especially noise wise: inexistent or almost ! You're awesome...
... I'd love you to give us a guide for daylight slog settings too (a general one, I understand it's very variable), would be awesome for noobs scared of slog like me haha...
Thanks again for making me dare to use slog haha!
I bought this camera because of you, Truly an amazing camera! Can't wait to try this PP out tonight! These settings worked great on my Ax100 & Ax700 4k Camcorders!! Thank you so much brother
I love how he actually explains the why behind what he's doing. A lot of tutorials out there would just throw numbers at you and tell you this is the perfect solution for everything.
After watching this a couple of times AND "liking" it, I didn't think that was explained clearly at all. It looked like a spreadsheet rough guesswork with nice results.
The following is just my line of thinking, I'm open to it being corrected.
- Dropping saturation makes sense for "wiggle room" as he correctly says, but later he states that it helps with noise, which I'm really not sure why that would be at all. Noise "happens" on the sensor. When the desaturation algo kicks in later, it doesn't care, it can't differentiate what's noise and what's not, it doesn't know. So once you try to bring the colors back (which you're going to), you're 1) going to experience the wrath of 8-bit 4:2:0 color encoding which had less info to differentiate when encoding, 2) your denoiser I suppose might also stumble because of that? maybe and maybe not.
- People should understand the main idea and I didn't feel it was explained. AFAIU the idea is to crush lows completely cause we only want something that's lit up, shortening the dynamic range but not quite. So how exactly the new profile helps with that? By manually sacrificing stops. I don't think most people got it from the ad-like tone that the channels has to keep up, that's the style. But it's not like the profile is somehow upgrading the camera's sensor. It's a good middleground between REC.709 and Logs. Which Sony includes out of the box?.. :)
I also think that measuring noise with Neat Video before grading is sus, exactly because the saturation in-camera was lower, so naturally it has "less noise" cause the pixels don't differ that much. But we ARE going to bring that metric (saturation) right back up in post, and it's going to be, at the very least, less detailed now. Probably not a problem, but probably not an advantage. We never saw a PP2 vs "new profile" comparison, if I'm not mistaken.
"This profile is going to work on any Alpha cameras".
So how does one define "works"? There are these settings, yes. But it would look pretty bad on my Sony A7ii all things considered cause my sensor is way worse and I can't shoot 4k without an external thing. Do you count that as misleading? It's not out of bad intention, but it's absolutely not a tutorial. It's an entertainment video.
One thing I agree with: most "tutorials" are much worse. There was one peep who was complaining about S-log2 SO MUCH, how bad it is and how you can't work with it, and I had better results from a _screengrab_ of his footage in 2 two minutes than him from raw material. People don't know what they're doing, and you can tell. Here, it definitely looks the part, which is great. The man knows his job. All the inserts, all the editing, the tempo, the switch-ups, everything.
Dude, I found this video almost 3 years later but let me just say...YOU CHANGED THE GAME FOR ME WITH THIS. Thank you!
I found this video when it came out and it's the sole reason I switched from Canon to Sony. Never looked back!
2nd time watching (revisiting) this tutorial a few months after watching it the first time and it's just miles better than most other tutorials out there. Staright to the point, super informative, very well explained (especially the logic / math behind the custom profile) and like all your other videos just gets me fired up! Such a beast at videography!🔥
Yo. You just straight up THREW DOWN with this tutorial. One of the best lessons I have ever watched in my life (i watch a lot of tutorials).
Ha! Thanks Zach! Stay tuned for some more! Have not even got to the good material yet!
#Truth
agree!!!
Absolutely. So much in there to digest (and so much that Make.Art. didn't say that were the many tiny conceptual steps that give him the understanding to make the choices he did). Plus I found myself trying to figure out HOW he made the shots he showed -- this guy CAN DO videography. Thanks for the gift of knowledge!!!
That hair though...
🖐🏻😳👍🏻
Sony must hire you to be their spokesperson. you make more sense in your videos than any other ones I've seen on the topic.
Your profile rocks! Used it in one of my musicvideos. Shot in a very dark theater. No noise, fantastic picture. Thanks a lot! 💪🙂👍
link to your video?
@@SHOTBYLEWWUTITDEW Unfortunately, links are automatically hidden. Search for _gonOCLFe1E8_ and _CdJMWAvLjsc_
Went back into my watch history and searched low light to find this video again because the settings worked so great for me the first time I used it on my A6300.
2 years later and this video is still relevant. Your work is inspiring to video creators all over the internet. I just wanted to stop by and thank you for your service and dedication!
it's the first excel/hoverboard/video tutorial I see and it's insane ! Thank's a lot, you avoided me 10 years of work 😂
Thanks for the video! You are one of the few people who knows what he is talking about on RUclips and capable of explaining it rationally!
Thanks dude!
When you hit your head on the table, I hit the sub button. XD
:D
Same here!
Same here!!!hahahaha
Yeeeepppp
The absolute nerdiest video on the a7III to date. Other than knowing PP2, I understood nothing. But loved every single second.
Watching this and using this custom profile has improved my low light footage so much!! Thanks!!
Awesome! Thanks Yo!
I dont think any youtuber has ever put this much effort into this topic, Hats off
I used your settings tonight and...........they actually sucks........NOT !!
Your settings blew my socks of !!!!!
WOW, this was really something !!!
No noise, good colors and so on.
Thank you so much when it comes to low light !!!!
This is a MASTER CLASS
What a nerd.
Standing ovation.
Thanks for the video.
Im such a nerd! Thanks dude!
I get my a7iii tomorrow and will be adding this profile as one of the first things out of the box. Thank you for doing all the science for us :)
How's your experience so far?
Bro. You are a madman....charting the noise values?? Excel spreadsheets? Graphs? Insane. Well done!
always said nerds will conquer the world, i'll be your assistant when it'll happen. switching from canon to sony, and THIS VIDEO, DAAAMN boi...thanks very much from italy.
This is one of the best "tutorial" that I've seen in long while ! Congrats for this !
Thanks 🙏
This actually helped me understand picture profiles. Thanks!
Thanks man! Rock on.
Loooved the actual mathematical explanation behind the profile dude, much more intuitive than a lot of other videos where they just vomit a series of numbers at you followed by "trust me. I be a photographer". Kudos man!
you just won a new subscriber! my learning curve just skyrocketed with your videos !
Awesome! Thanks!
Thank you for putting in so much hard work into your videos!
LOVE when i watch a Tutorial and say "OOOOHHH THATS WHERE I #%$#$ UP." Great work man
I remembered this video from a few years ago, and I'm about to go out and shoot some stuff at night where I don't want to bring my main camera because it's kind of shady, and so I still have my a6400, and so just when I needed something like this, there you still are. Thank you so much! So Awesome. (OKay... I'm editing this now that I just got home after testing this with my Sony a6400. Damn, Yo, this is insane!! I never understood when people would say the Sony a6400 was such a great low light camera. I was like, "really???????", but I used your settings tonight, and ..... wow. I'll just say that. Crazy high ISO settings, although I shot with the Sony 35mm f/1.8 OSS lens at f/1.8, which was really helpful, but still, high ISO and pretty much flawless. Crazy good. Certainly useful as an incredibly "under" understatement. I'm sending every Sony shooter I know to this video so that they get schooled on this. Such great information, and actually an amazing contribution for people who are smart enough to take advantage of it and learn from it. What RUclips should be. Mad stoopid plethora's of thank you's, in multitudes!!! So awesome.)
THIS dude is the hero we needed.
Where have you been all my life 🤯 Such a sick video man! Super informative and extremely helpful
Really appreciate your videos, you go the extra mile to hit us with the bro science. Super informative.
Thanks man
honestly I don't know why it took me this long to find your content but you are quickly becoming my favorite channel to learn from.. keep killing it !!!
I've spent countless hours watching shit about cameras and this camera specifically and have never seen it done better than this across the board. You're the man. You give amazing value and explain everything so well. Glad I found you. Keep crushing it, man. Subscribed for sure.
Perfect timing! I am going to shoot my son’s concert tonight with an A7iii. The theme is 80’s night. Maybe we can have some fun with the colors in post. Thanks for another great video.
Awesome! Good luck dude, def experiment with it, try slog 2 as well, just over expose the crap out of it. It's all about finding what works for you.
@The Zoo How did it go?
Sorry for the super tardy reply. I got caught up with other comments right after the original post.
The set up at the concert didn't really allow for great footage secondary to limited angles and cramped quarters. However, I did just finish a project for a family trip down to Coronado. I used Josh's custom PP2 profile for some low light footage around the outdoor patio of McP's Irish Pub (Coronado), which came out well. The patio had multiple green fluorescent lights with large multi-colored hanging bulbs strung overhead. I didn't have to color grade too much as per luma waveform or RGB overlay to achieve an exposure and color distribution to my liking. There was a lot of room left to tweak. The footage was similar to his "Chinatown" shot in this video.
I used S-Log2 for daytime footage and Variable ND filter for convenience chasing around the family, trying not to miss the moment.
I'm nowhere near a professional, but loving every bit of the hobby and trying to capture memories the best way that I can. Thanks for the tips, Josh!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL So love this video, however, I have yet to shoot video-I specialize in portrait shots. Does this profile work for stills as well? My A7III (regardless of lens) is far too grainy in low light. Thanks in advance for your hopeful response. Huie (Bay Area)
UGH I frickin' love the synthwave, retrowave style to your videos. The lights only help 👨🎤
Thanks Brandon!
Out of most of the tutorials I have watched that show settings for low light, none reduced the noise as well as this one!!! Saved as my go to night profile. Close to perfect blacks with no noise. Yes please.
This is by far the best custom profile i’ve ever seen in youtube. I set it, used it, and worked perfect!!
I would love having a good profile for normal situations. I don’t know, but s-log hasn’t given me the no-noise look at daylight.
Dude you're super knowledgeable. This rocks, thank you so much!
Thanks dude!!!!
You should do an episode explaining everything you did in davinci 😭
dude i have watched this video 100 times and i just realized how much you audio has improved
I just finished editing a video I started recording in the afternoon but most of it happened at night and the colors and noise were really bad. After a google search I ended up in this video. So my man, I can only say thank you. Your research was well done, this video is very informative and straight forward. Love it.
FUCKING BAWSE MODE content quality. 5-stars bro. SUBSCRIPTION ENGAGED.
This is my new fav thing. BAWSE MODE. Love it...you BELONG HERE. Thanks for jumping on board.
Thanks bro you made me now 100% keen to buy the a7iii
this is sick. respect for the efforts man.. two thumbs up
Thanks ,I'm most cannon user & recently switched to Sony videography. Got a couple projects shooting the solar eclipse in low light away from the city lights. This setup profile its perfect .
holy crap. Thank you. I have a wedding reception to shoot tomorrow on my Sony a7iii and this is exactly what I needed. I have some lights and a quick lens but this is the nitty gritty I needed.
Just be careful as with this profile you will clip lights, so you may want to test a few shots out first. I would recommend potentially shooting normal profile off in that case and use the lens to expose.
This helped me out a lot, and was also entertaining - thank you! :)
Good job man
Hi it was a great tutorial! Can you share your day light picture profile set up? Appreciate it! Thanks
I could not wait to try this. A friend of mine does light and sound for events. His last event was inside a cave. Super crazy location. And I shot some nice B-Roll for his company. Thanks to your settings there is no noise in the shadows and the highlights are crispy.
You say your not a scientist man but holy crap you know what your talking about💯 Love this video!
Hi - can you clarify your definitions around lowlight? I'm looking primarily for twilight settings for real estate shots. Most of your footage examples were definitely Night. Would this profile work well for twilight? Or would you tweak it? If you did tweak it, what would you adjust? Thanks! Awesome videos and teaching style BTW
Thanks for this! New subscriber. I'm heading out to do a night-time video and have just purchased the Sony A7iii so this was perfect.
Awesome!! Enjoy!
This is the most epic low light camera tutorial I have ever seen. Subscribed!
Thanks Yo!
A year or two after this video was made so I'm late to the party but thanks you nailed a gorgeous profile for the shoot im on right now a few minor tweaks I made but the foundation was wonderful to start from
LOVE the scientific / mathematical approach. Notification bell going on :)
Fuk ya!
Dude. Your videos are beyond awesome m. Thanks for this profile & all the data to back it up!
Thanks man!!!!
just bought an a7iii and want to start doing more video stuff and i somehow just stumbled upon your channel. this vid checks like every box for me, love the borderline-neurotic analysis. your style is also dope, love how straightforward your presentation is. that's a DEEP SUB from me pal
The real MVP. Just got a a7iii. Not gonna lie, your style is everything I dream of doing. SO MUCH RESPECT. ❤️❤️
Thanks Razer!
So PP7 for bright day and PP2 for low light... Is this a good quick decision?
Were you a part of Kung Fury team, too? Amazing devotion and and editing! The world needs good guys like you.
Not sure I know kung fury. Is that a band?
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL It's an epic fun short movie. Definetely check it out! ;) It's available on RUclips.
This is the best video i've seen that explains low light in a way that's easy to understand. Two thumbs up
Dude I'm so mad with RUclips that your video was not on the top search results and I had to look for you on the bottom of the list
The analytics is impressive!
Thank you!
This profile plus anamorphic lens = eyegasm.
This is the 25.000 Like. Thanks so much, man. Keep up the good work.
Dude I was struggling with figuring this out. I kept getting freakin ugly noisy footage on a camera known for great noise control. Your video is awesome much appreciated. I tested and right away huge difference!
Wow. The was brilliantly useful and brilliantly told. I subscribed in the first 20 seconds of watching.
The lump on my head was worth it then! Thanks dude!
Awesome video man
You deserve more subs
We all start somewhere. I personally like smaller channels and feeling more connected with creators. Thanks for the Sub and kind words!!!!!
Not the hero we wanted, but the hero we deserved
you single handedly sold me on the sony a7iii your insight is unmatcheddd
Amazing amount of information in one video. Now that you did all the tests, I do not have to! Thank you for your time Sir!
Well done! I really appreciate the effort you put into this video. It is really helpful. So I have my lowlight profile now but I'm still debating what to go with for daylight. Cine4, SLOG 2 or HGL 3. I have seen many videos but non of them really convince me like you did with this one. Can you make a video to determine which settings are better for daylight?
Working on the slog 2 video. That will address the day time use.
Awesome video, at least, someone who really know how to explain
The best video about settings I’ve ever seen
I make quick test on my a6300 with your settings and Im really impressed.. I shoot all my night videos on slog2 and I was quite happy about clean look but after test I see that I have better colours , more light , less noise... must check It in outside conditions but great job men! Definatelly sub ! lot of knowledge here ! Thx!
Awesome stuff man. Great call on using the neat video noise count for comparing profiles!
Didn't I see your face in the video?
damn great video!!! so much more info than every other channel!
Thanks man, that's what I'm going for!!!! Stay tuned!
super nice video as usual, whats your pp setting in day light?
this video deserves more views! thank you so much for the hard work! definitely trying tonight.
Great vid, Great Channel! Would you use this profile for music events or are you better off switching back to slog 2 for stage lighting??
You'd probably want to switch.....but test it for yourself.
Bro My Brain is hurting LOL .... Great Tutorial man wish I was as smart as you. LOL
Hahaha “bro science.” Thank you, that was really helpful.
BRO, that was one of the best and easiest to understand videos.
Yes I love those lights
Doing a video. You just made it happen.
You rock 💪🏽💪🏽
Since this is a Sony video I know exactly how to increase its views big time watch.Once you go up on Sonyalpharumors youll become a big shot. Working on it
Thanks. looking forward to it. I am following you to improve my daughter's youtube channel. appreciate your help bro. keep up the good work. I already subbed...........thumbs up
Awesome video - would love to see a similar one on how you hand SLOG / Daytime settings and grading ( particularly with talent / skintones etc ) - keep up the great work!
Funny story, that thing you did for the intro happened to me while I had a thumb pressed against a molar, and I broke the tooth in 3.
What?!! Ouch!
This and "custom button" video are the best tutorial videos on RUclips about a7III. So PP7 for the day and custom PP2 for night time? Thanks :)
I wanna give this video 10 thumbs up lol. Thank you for this!! It was super helpful!
Hi, thank you for this great video! What about exposure? You said to expose for the midtones and it's ok. But do you overexpose like log (+1.7/2.0) or keep the +0.0? Thank you!
fabio alferii I just asked the same question 😂
Did you get an answer to this question?
I've been searching for good settings for night shooting on my a6500!! I haven't been thrilled with the cinegammas at all in low light and have stuck to slog2 even in very low light. Stills gamma is impressively clean though! I ran some of my own comparison tests and I've found that I was happier with stills when black level and black gamma were both set to 0. That seemed to capture a little more detail while still remaining super clean although it seemed there was something about the -2/-2 that I liked that I couldn't quite place my finger on. Your thoughts on that and why you chose to drop black setting? Is in camera settings like this different than dropping levels in post due to the way signal is processed? Also, even at ISO 6400 (when I can get a proper 2 stops overexposure) slog2 seems to capture so much more information than any other gamma at the cost of just a bit of visible noise (which may be unacceptable to some) after applying the free (and awesome) renegade2 slog2 to rec709 LUT. Neat video may be enough to make it useable though. I know the science (bro science included) says slog2 is a no no in low light especially at high ISO where dynamic range is supposedly crushed. I have been getting fantastic results. I can only imagine the ff a7iii results would be even better. It's a topic of high interest to me because I shoot a lot of low light and I want to make the most of my camera and I'm very open to discussion on this.
You say: We do not need the dynamic range, its at night. It may sound weird but exactly at nigh it is, in my understanding and experience, where you have the most contrasty situations, where you have very bright lights and very dark non lit areas in one image. In my experience, I either expose for the lights and sacrifice the dark areas which are drowning in black, or I expose for the shadows and sacrifice the lights, clipping into whiteness. I have tried S-Log profiles at night and, obiously noise is a huge issue. However, besides noise, I have information in all areas of the image and the highlight roll-off looks dramatically better and I have more details in the dark areas. I am not suggesting log for low-light, but I would loooove to have a log-profile that works in low-light since I am struggeling to get good looking images at dark with any other PP. Thanks for your videos mate, they are motivating and pleasant to watch. Respect.
well, you are wrong about one thing here... you are a freakin scientist! Just picked up my a7iii because of your vids (even tho the a7s iii was just released) - keep it up, man!
Dammit - this was SO useful, cheers. 😊
I see what you did there. :)
This channel is dope! Subbed. It's like Peter McKinnon in the early stages
BBBBBBWWWWWAAAATSUP! .......
I didn't know a person like you existed...finally someone talking tech and showing them. Keep it up. I am subscribing you!
Honestly I learned so much from this. Seriously, well done. I love all the facts and how you pieced it together. Lots of information, great pace, not boring.
With that being said, you might actually have an answer to this!
**Pertaining to a6500**
So I read an article that stated, "When shooting 4K in Super 35mm (25p/24p), the camera uses the sensor's full pixel readout without pixel binning to collect 6K of information-roughly 2.4x as many pixels as 4K UHD"
I use an a6500, and it offers 60fps at 50M Super 35mm, and 120fps at 100M (No Super 35mm option for 120fps). I usually find shooting at 60fps perfect for my slow motion needs, but I usually shoot at 120 due to the 100M. Do you think that, even though the 60fps only offers 50M and Super 35mm (so full pixel readout), it's better quality than 120fps at 100M without Super 35mm (regular lighting and low lighting)?
Thanks!
Thanks Bro!!! This was awesome !
whats up bro lol
Amazing video really appreciate the effort. Think you could make a new video about your daytime picture profiles? You kind of go over it in your previous video (maybe it’s just pp7?) but I think that could be super helpful. Thanks!!!
Hey Peter! Yeah gonna drop that episode soon! got a few more in the pipeline currently but that one is coming!
That's great to hear! I can't wait to see those settings and how you edit. Love your style. Keep up the great work.
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL Just found this setting video for night time, thank you so much for sharing this greatness! Would you happen to have any update on how the daytime picture profile is coming along? Would love to set some sick results in the day time as well :) appreciate all the quality tutorial videos you've made man.
P.S Just watched your first film, heck, even though I can't count how many short films I've made, they are nowhere close to Josh Yeo caliber. Hate you so much lol
You are a master at your work, I commend you for that.
I was searching THIS wideo for about an hour, and finally found man who could explain the think to me perfectly. THX bro!
So, what if i wanna shoot 120fps at night, how can i maximize the result?
120p is clean in the day, and noisy in low light. so use a very fast lens, try bringing in practicals or use ambient line. use the profile I made, but keep gamma and black gamma at 0. and last try breaking the 180 degree shutter rule. You may be able to get away with shooting 1/125 shutter speed instead of having to shoot 1/250 (this will vary from subject to subject, the slower moving subject the better) GOOD LUCK!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL Thank you so much for all the info. Keep doing what u r doing! Love the channel!
@@MAKEARTNOWCHANNEL Gamma and Black Gamma? In the options for Gamma, I only see options such as "Still", "Cine1" etc. I don't see any numerical values. Were you referring to "Black Level" and "Black Gamma", Both set to 0?
If this were reddit I'd guild this
Mate wtf u are talking about. This is nuclear physics for me 😂
Your technical knowledge is so refreshing. I had a “professional” DOP shooting an advert which I had to cut and grade and they shot log the whole time and it was all nighttime shooting. Was a nightmare