Persona 5 Unused Content
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- 0:00 Intro
0:40 Game Mechanics (Daily Life)
6:52 Game Mechanics (Dungeon/Battle)
13:02 Unused Enemies
18:22 Unused Personas
19:54 Unused Skills
22:37 Cut Mementos Missions
25:55 Unused Graphics
34:51 Unused Thieves Den
37:23 Unused Items
44:49 Unused Story Intro
47:45 Unused Story: Kamoshida Arc
53:13 Unused Story: Madarame Arc
56:01 Unused Story: Kaneshiro Arc
57:44 Unused Story: Futaba Arc
59:43 Unused Story: Okumura Arc
1:00:48 Unused Story: Sae and Shido Arcs
1:02:21 Unused Story: Yaldabaoth Arc
1:04:14 Unused Story: 3rd Semester and Ending
1:09:43 Unused Story: Miscellaneous
1:11:13 Miscellaneous Final Details
Welcome to my rundown of the best of P5's cut and unused content! There's a LOT here and it's all great.
#persona5 #persona5royal #cutcontent 
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I actually have MORE unused stuff that I never uploaded (due to severe burnout) 😔
also hi 👋
Hi, thanks for uploading all those scenes to TCRF. Hope it's okay if I use your footage.
Also I totally get you regarding burnout.
Thank you for sharing the stuff you did, it’s really cool to see cut content like that.
@@BigKlingy did you find anything on the punching ryuji scene?
Don't worry too much about it, Rhyth. Everyone needs rest sometimes~
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I really wish Will Seeds showed flashbacks. That sounds like an amazing feature that would have added so much depth to the villains.
Me too!
The revelation that it was Yusuke's mother who fainted in the flashback and ultimately died from Madarame's intentional inaction would have been amazing.
I really wish we could have seen why Kaneshiro thought so poorly of himself. He thought he was stupid but his way of making money was genius. Despicable, but genius. Get high schoolers to move drugs for you, blackmail the high schoolers to give you money, give them a very high interest loan that they'll never be able to pay back, and potentially have them join your gang to try to work off their debt. What the hell happened to this man for him to think he was stupid? Can you imagine how successful he would have been as a lawyer or CEO?
Sae's would have been interesting. She wanted to become a prosecutor to uphold justice but was completely broken down with what seems to be a couple of years. What happened to her?
I definitely think not using the willseeds to show why the palace rulers became diatorted was a massive loss of potential.
It also makes sense, as I believe Yaldabaoth intentionally allowed these horrible people to become as famous as they did, as part of his "game".
31:25 that's crazy
thankfully this feature somewhat made its way into strikers but still not the finalized version of that removed feature
Maruki’s palace even uses 3 flashbacks to his past to progress stories so maybe his just got reused
The thieves being abrasive about leaving Maruki's world makes their apologies more understandable. I feel like they fit better.
I totally agree.
Personally, I would've loved having everyone be defensive when confronted about living under Maruki's reality. It would've hit so much harder
Yeah, they were too wishy-washy and pushovers in the final release, as a result their apologizing scenes later and the scene where they all show up to help you lost a lot of impact. Of course you guys are here, the game never gave me any reason to doubt you wouldn't.
@@planescaped not to mention how every single character had their problems befofe ever having met Joker in the first place. Fixing them essentially writes him out of their lives.
Joker loses the most from that false reality.
That itself would add more weight to their choices. It could reveal a very human aspect to an otherwise fairly blank main character. Jealousy, perhaps? And I think players could easily empathize with him in that situation.
Their eventual showing up and third awakenings would be so much more meaningful
I honestly would've liked if they kept the "Don't erase Mementos" bad ending. It makes sense that the Phantom Thieves would consider if losing the ability to change hearts forever is worth gambling or not.
Kinda reminds me of the debate they had with Konoe before the boss battle over who was right. The thieves have tended to tackle this kind of discussion before and it would have been interesting to see. My guess is they went with Yaodabaoth just giving Joker the choice and everyone just has to live with it instead
Let's be real the only reason "persona users can't have palaces" is just to try and explain away why akechi doesn't have a palace when he really should've had one with how distorted he was
It's sort of a weird rule anyway, since P3 and 4 have plenty of "distorted" Persona-users as enemies.
and also thieves den exists which is referred to as a palace multiple times
@@michaualtingtonthe thieves den isn’t really a canon thing though it’s just a cool gameplay mechanic sorta like an in game art book of sorts
a palace requires the user to have a shadow. the persona is the shadow of the persona user. persona users cant have palaces because their shadows have transformed. simple as that.
@@BigKlingyand so do p1 and 2 lol
Futaba doing persona callouts with position hack would go really hard NGL
Kinda weird they didn't go with that. It's a lot better than her just saying "I'll do something about this"
If you were punished for ignoring Yusuke every time he hit you up, you would never be able to go outside again
I always wondered how Akechi's palace would've been. I think it would've been a Gotham-City like crime-ridden area that could've represented all of Japan to him where he is the superhero.
He already is seemingly a distorted version of Batman. A weathly playboy detective/celebrity by day whose ideology and trama makes him a black masked vigilante by night (not to mention having a rival who is the embodiment of chaos that's named "Joker"). But the Batman parallels go further. He wants to seek vengeance and punishment against all those who've wronged him or even stand in his way. And it's never enough to do actual do anything nobel, all that matters is the acknowledgment of others, hence a superhero.
But his final parallel to Bataman is the lack of parental guidance. While Bruce Wayne quite literally lost his parents and that it made him lost through life, Akechi did metaphorically. Shido impregnated his prostitute mother, and she seldom looked after him as she was busy with her work being impoverished. Combine that with Japan's Kousake system, in which not having a nuclear family immediately makes someone a lost outcast, he would go down a similar but even more toxic path than Bruce Wayne.
That... actually makes a lot of sense. Though Akechi's more Red Hood than Batman.
@@BigKlingy The more I think of it, Ackechi is a more villainous batman or specifically if you mix joker and Batman. Like joker, he likes to do whatever he wants and that includes violence to innocent and sadism to violence. However unlike the joker for the most part (atleast in the third semester) he more chaotic neutral and will help the heroes.
@starmaker75 Are you familiar with Alan Moore's "Batman: The Killing Joke"? That was what made me realize the links between these four characters. More specifically, because of what Killing Joke's message is.
Killing Joke revolves around the idea of Batman and the Joker being two sides of the same coin to a much more extensive extent than "one good, one bad". The Joker's backstory in the book was a direct reflection of Bruce's. The emphasis on family, wealth, dealing with the criminal world, and how a man dedicates his whole life and worldview to "one bad day". The story gets at that Batman and the Joker are geniuses amoung men with infinite potential, but they choose to become lunatics because of what the world did to them and how they responded.
The sole difference is that The Joker chose extreme cynasim and rejected all his accountability. He thinks the world is about tradgey and wishes to do nothing but project that idea on to others. Conversely, Batman choose extreme idealism and took all accountability. He convinced himself that the tragedy that happened to him must be stopped at all costs and took the craziest route of trying to enforce and stop that tragedy. Both completely sacrificed their lives to that.
What I noticed in P5 was a complete inverse on the Killing Joke Dilema. Both Jokers believe in chaos and independence beyond all costs, becoming tricksters that go against law enforcement to bring chaos to society comfort. Akechi and Batman both choose to be vigilante enforcers to those who contributed to who wronged them, with an emphasis on dedicating their lives to their war on it. But in P5, the chaotic Joker is the idealist with the no killing rule that believes he can change the world, and the order bound Akechi is the cynic who wishes to hurt people because life is worthless.
Think of it in D&D terms:
Batman - Good Order
Akechi - Evil Order
Joker (P5) - Good Chaos
Joker (DC) - Evil Chaos
Sort of reminds me of the Osaka Jail from Strikers
I mean Akechi doesn't actually think of himself as a hero though. He just wanted to be one when he was a kid but he knows he's done terrible things it's even implied in one of the confidant ranks that he sees his goal, his "Justice", as "blind self righteousness". He has quite low self esteem and feels unwanted and alone if anything his palace would be a theatre with a one man show starring the Detective Prince.
Akechi's distorted desire would most likely be his thirst for revenge against Shido, his main motivation that has turned him into a murderer, so a palace like that wouldn't fit that desire. Since he's not trying to kill Shido for recognition or heroics it's just out of pure hatred. Akechi hates keeping up the detective prince facade likely because in a way it was also crafted by Shido.
You had me on the Batman comparison until you mentioned the lack of parental guidance. Akechi had literally no one after his mom died, not a single slightly decent adult or friend his age to support and help him. Bruce on the other hand had Alfred. Alfred was really good man and was a good influence on Bruce and a great support system. Alfred took good care of Bruce and helped him grow, Akechi didn't have that. The things about the other Phantom Thieves is that if they didn't have the support system they had in game (That being the Phantom Thieves or someone else like Boss or Shiho) most, if not all, of them could've turned out like Akechi so I feel like comparison isn't really solid.
The whole “Akechi may have had ice skills” bit is interesting, given that traditionally Loki is an ice based Persona/Demon.
As a computer geek, it's always fascinating to see what's hidden on the disc of my favorite games after sifting through all the code and I'm glad P5 is no exception to this trend. I'm not surprised P5 has so much unused content given how long it spent baking in the oven.
53:17. GOD LORD ALMIGHTY!!! What on earth were they thinking when they wrote and recorded those lines.
Wow we were really robbed with those scenes of the PTs just chilling. Would have been nice to show them as regular teens hanging out together.
Thankfully Strikers addresses the lack of downtime scenes, but it's sad P5 was originally going to have more.
53:17 And yep, I dunno why they cut those but maybe they thought they were too much.
I thought they were the infamous Ryuji Diet Lines, BUT DEAR GODS THIS IS WORSE
The akechi mouse isn't un used contant, theres a shadow that can turn you into mice. The shadow first appeared in futaba's palace, then appeared in momentos. If you bring akechi to momentos where that shadow is, it can turn him into a mouse during that battle for how many turns or when the battle ends.
The fact that they never even planned for a Showtime between Joker and Ryuji is such a tragedy…
I wish they had 1
The fact that Joker doesn't have a showtime for ANY of the phantom thieves is criminal if you ask me
@@enigma2786 I mean Akechi but hes temporary and he dies but his and joker showtime was actually amazing but man I wish there was 1 with joker and Ryuji
@@akai3974 Neither Akechi nor Yoshizawa are phantom thieves. They're just temporary allies. Did you forget?
@@enigma2786 Ik but his showtime with Akechis is actually pretty awesome but still he should I have atleast gotten 1 with one of the full time members
The lockpicking minigame is super interesting because Judgment (a spin-off of Yakuza/LikeADragon, also owned by SEGA) ended up using a mechanic like that.
Can't help but thinking Oblivion, when I look at the unused lock picking mini game.
11:03 This makes me wonder if the unused real-world stealth section is what inspired Zenkichi's brief stealth segment in Strikers. Just... awkwardly and hurriedly scuttling from cover point to cover point.
11:38 ...and on the note of ideas that made it into Strikers, the unused Palace Ruler flashbacks could have been an inspiration for Striker's Trauma Cell scenes.
Yeah that feels believable. Now I wonder what kinds of unused content Strikers has.
Funny thing, I think Mona's "squinting" portrait is technically in the game. In those cut-ins for cutscenes, Mona has one that shows his squinting eyes on occasion.
And it might interest you to know that "Papillon" is French for "Butterfly".
And I wish they kept the PT's complimenting each other, as well as them casually hanging out. It would have made them feel like actual friends, rather than just people working together. The Investigation Team had that and they really feel like close friends. It also helps that when a character is knocked down, one of the others may help them to their feet.
Ah right, I do recall a cut-in like that. Good catch.
I knew what Papillon meant (partly via Vivillon in Pokemon). Wonder if that implies her outfit would've been different.
@BigKlingy Also, from what I can tell, Ann's PT attire was always cat-themed. I came across an early design that was a black bodysuit and she had a crossbow.
And I think I heard that very early into development, the PT would just wear masks, rather than change clothes.
Yeah the phantom thieves not casually hanging out made them look more like persona 3 sees which doesn't really hang out and is more understandable since sees were an organization is to destroy shadows in tartarus
23:45
I genuinely expected every party member aside from Akechi & Sumire to have a personal Mementos build into their Confidants. Yusuke & Haru both didn't necessarily need it, Ryuji, Ann, and ESPECIALLY Makoto needed it
I like all of these unused Mementos quests, would've added even more to the party members.
Real world stealth mechanics, at least the idea of being caught by Kamoshida, has some pretty terrifying implications if you weren’t allowed out of school until evening. Unless they explain it away as a detention, it seems to imply that Joker himself could also become a victim of Kamoshida’s abuse.
i kinda want to see bara of that tho oop-
@@arsann8701 What the fuck.
I wonder if design ideas for Akechi's palace ended up making it in his Showtime Attack with Joker.
Maybe not, but it'd be cool.
Interesting profile picture 👁️👁️
Everyone but Akechi when ignored: Visually worried, saddened, or angered
Akechi: Looks like he's ready to get down to the killing business
I chose that portrait as a joke. I don't know what portraits, if any, they would've used in the actual game for these lines.
Also that unused yaldabaoth deadline ending is creepy because it makes you think like did yaldabaoth take control of the officers, or did he just make everyone aware that the end was coming on 12/24
Even Sojiro says he wishes that he became an inmate
One of my favorite little unused things is the portrait for Haru's fiance, but before the rendering effects used on all the portraits. It's a neat look behind the glass.
There's a few I didn't show because they're basically identical to the final ones but with the lighting missing, but it really shows how much of a difference that makes.
I could see Akechi's solo showtime attack being Robin Hood + Loki
Still think he should've got one with Sumire, so everyone would have exactly 2 Showtimes.
Sandman was probably gonna be a low level persona like in p4, but they realized he would fit really well in futaba's palace and upped his level just for that
Yeah that's pretty likely what happened.
Sae being present in the harem endings implies she would be a part of that harem...
Which just...
Can you imagine the dinner conversations at the Nijima residence?
The run animations you mentioned are used more than just the start of the game with Ryuji, theyre very small and brief but Ryuji has multiple. Running with you in school, running with you to that new locale when gaining info on kaneshiro. Yusuke follows you around for a very short part, also Makoto when you first enter Kaneshiros palace. Also, they're used in the thieves den.
I used a Persona 5 Dialogue Generator you can find by google searching to recreate the unused lines. The portraits you see here aren't what would've been used in the game, just what I found most fitting or funny. The actual text from these lines is unused content from TCRF.
i really want a persona socal link generator
You deserve massive props. This one took a while but the wait was worth it.
Spent essentially three straight weeks working on it. But hopefully it's enjoyable, it's rare to see all this info in one place.
I’m guessing that the anime cutscene was cut to make the transition into the third semester more subtle and “somethings wrong I can feel it”-esque
And maybe to make Sumire's role in it less obvious, although anyone familiar with re-release logic would already guess it'd center around the new character.
man, i wish we got to customization jokers room, and im glad they got rid of that doubt confidant, that would been a pain to play with it
Having extra bed sheets/couches would've been cool, I agree.
The mouse Akechi voice clips did in fact murder me
I think the limo in Sumire’s true past might’ve been a connection of Shido, putting her and Ren in the same spot? Maybe Kasumi was originally planned to be hit by Shido and his entourage?
Nah I just think it was transporting Joker and the group further into Maruki's Palace.
32:33 For the Angel statues, my guess is they were likely sculptures that shot out security lasers from their eyes, they wouldn’t be too out of place in that one room with the warped walls in Madarame’s Palace since that was where the security lasers were mostly introduced
Seems they were cut early given how lacking they are in texturing. Would've been cool though.
I honestly like the cut version of Akechi's third awakening much more than what was in the final game. It makes him a little more tolerable since he actually shows gratitude without being a prick.
I don't think he ever thanks the PTs for taking down Shido in the final game, which means you lose potential closure on his "last request" back in the Palace.
@@BigKlingy I think there is actually dialogue of Akechi saying thanks and apologising in the final game, but it's only in Mementos and the other members rudely articulated "we don't care about that". Something along those lines
@@rcole7274 There's so many good Mementos conversations, it's just hard to see specific ones because they're random.
I remember watching the Persona 3 and 4 unused content videos and searching for this and was kinda bummed out that you hadn't made one. However here we are the next day, and hour of unused content was definitely worth the wait.
It took me a while to gather everything I needed, and I also wanted to release it close to when I was planning on covering P5 Strikers, as a lead-up to it.
I don't know if I missed it, but along the implication that Joker's ultimate Persona originally having been intended to be Lucifer (which would also explain why Satanael is such a dead ringer to the original design) there is also the fact that the textures for Yaldabaoth read Metaron, suggestion that the final boss was originally supposed to be our mechanical angel, which would also explain why Metatron didn't appear in the final dungeon alongside the other Archangels.
Oh, what a treat this'll be to watch. Thanks for all the research you put into making these unused content videos, BK.
Akechi being a cut boss after the calling card has been sent can explain why you can get that scene of him arresting if you hit the deadline even after his boss fight.
Yeah, it definitely would.
They should have kept Yoshizawa's code name as "Clown" by virtue of it being hilarious.
So much info! Crazy massive effort, I'm sure. I thought I knew a lot, but there are plenty of new things I learned from this!
Also appreciate how you're careful not to use things that aren't actually confirmed anywhere (i.e. the supposed Ryuji beat up scene 2).
Awesome work on this Klingy!
I might add some updates later if more on that gets confirmed. All the unused cutscenes I did show have clear filenames. I also made sure to use only the Japanese versions of the Madarame and Okumura flashbacks since only Kamoshida's was officially localized in the files. (and with no line formatting lol) Fan translations exist for the other two, but I didn't want to get the impression those were in the code, or use them without crediting the fan translator.
I enjoyed this dig through P5's cut content, keep up the good work!
So, it recently hit me...
The unused Joker Face where he looks like he just got hit in the nuts is probably an unused part of the animation he does whenever he's 'surprised' (See the Kamoshida Arc, and when he flails about after opening a door to see a Shadow).
Mouse Akechi is so adorable. I need him.
One thing I found fascinating is Maruki's concept-art white suit somehow still made it into the game! Just as a quick monochrome still-image flashback (iirc Joker was reflecting on Maruki's words about how his friends are enjoying their lives?), that likely was forgotten about instead of being updated to the model looking more like a scientist-priest than a bridegroom😅
A few of the still image flashbacks in Maruki's arc use beta designs for his Palace, weird that got left in the game.
I already knew basically all of this since I read The Cutting Room Floor, but it's always nice to have a video of someone organizing it and giving their thoughts.
Hell yeah it's here this is awesome man
I don’t care what anyone says that cut moment if the adult confidants hanging out is canon.
I like to imagine Sae making friends with Kawakami, Tae, Ohya, and Chihaya, showing how her job doesn’t rule her life anymore.
So funny hearing you talk about there not being evidence for the Ryuji scene and now having the beta where it’s like 2x longer then we even thought beforehand
Yeah that part didn't age too well. In any case, I'm glad they toned it down.
Regarding Joker in P4AU, considering that the events of P5 occur roughly in 2018 whereas P4AU takes place in 2012, that would put him at the age of 10 or 11, so I wonder what he would've looked and sounded like in those games. In addition, is it possible that, due to having a different persona, he would have had a different element like fire? And even if that wasn't the case, would he have used skills like eigaon rather than mudoon as a showing of what was to come?
It's likely he would've been time-jumped OR P5 was set earlier in the timeline at that point. (Given how P5 went through a radical plot overhaul and also had its release pushed back a ton, that'd make sense)
P5 is actually 2016/early 2017, pretty sure.
@@BigKlingy I checked P5's year by comparing it to a calendar. It matches up perfectly with 2016
@@fink_rat Yeah it's kinda weird that it hides the year, since P3 and 4 didn't. I guess they didn't want it to feel "too close to home".
additional cut content funfact;
There's apparently a model of Akiren sitting on a very blocky version of what is unmistakably meant to be an electric chair, iirc. I can only imagine it was some early version of something related to fusion/the Velvet Room, but why Akiren is there and not some random Persona, I shudder to think.
It's probably a Velvet Room thing, yeah.
I approve of the unused painting of the lady as what Mrs. Kitagawa looked like.
Great vid, huge P5 fan
55:26 glad this was cut out, it feels so slimy
Agreed.
Its surprising persona 5 has so much unised content
It really shouldn't considering how massive the game is and how long it has been in development
Yeah I'm not surprised there's a lot here. Royal has quite a bit too despite having less development time.
They had a lot of ideas that they had to cut, because it's already a 100h game. If they added everything it might have been much longer.
its surprising persona 5 has so much used content
This was such a treat to watch, somethings i have heard something none and it is interesting to see what concept a game could have been. Also yeah i understand not putting that Ryuji scene "unused content"
There's a lot in here that I don't see discussed much. Like, I knew about Akechi's cut Mementos mission, but didn't know EVERYONE had one. I personally really like Ann's with the volleyball member who admired Kamoshida and was jealous of Shiho for it (showing Kamoshida had even more victims in different ways), Yusuke's one with the plagiarizing artist and... Makoto investigating a literal crypto scam because lol.
Also WHY didn't we get this request for the flower shop?! "Who's Been Assaulting People" was, imo, THE most boring Mementos Quest in the game and I have no idea why it replaced a more personal one.
At least you can have Joker calm the girls down if you want. Even if it falls on deaf ears
You gotta make a update to this an early build of persona 5 has been leaked with even more unused content
Im probably in a huge minority but, i want another P5 with all cut content restored/finished.
Maybe it could be done with mods with the Steam version?
i've been waiting for this
i was trying to figure out why the madarame pipe thing sounded familiar despite it being unused, and realized its because he HAS been shown with a pipe in the actual game. its just specifically in the royal bad ending cg during the credits
They possibly did that in reference to this unused concept. Maybe he does still canonically smoke a pipe, you just never catch him doing it.
Yusuke is definitely the one talking in that video game piracy mission, meaning yusuke thinks games are art
Great video! Also, I think that some of the animations and voice lines for an extended version of the infamous ryuji scene were shown in Beta64's video on persona 5
Man you couldn't have made this video at a worse time lmao, now that we have 5 prerelease builds of the game
i think akechi in shido’s arena was probable meant to be a cognitive akechi, like how okumura had a cognitive fiance, and shido would probably have been a 3 phase boss fight instead of a 2 phase one. cognitive akechi probably got located to the fight before so he could fight and kill real akechi
The way I see a lot of the royal edits is to further push the player away from Maruki’s reality. That was one of my biggest gripes with the third semester as I don’t feel like they justified it well enough. Both the more visceral reactions of confidants and the akechi jazz bar events would have made both sides more compelling and complete imo. But Atlus wants players to agree with their message I guess.
Im so acoustic for unsuee content thanks for this video king!
LaLa really needed to be a Confidant option
Would've been better than Ohya at least...
11:03 That lock picking minigame looks very similar to the ones in RGG's judgment.
19:46 You know that reminds me of how they made Lucifer NG+ exclusive in Strikers
Great video, so much mechanics they erased it!
A thing that I find interesting from 1:04:18 is that I remember the supposed cut thieves den cutscenes being there in the original ps4 version of royal. In fact I remember seeing them at the thieves den. Perhaps they were cut in the pc port? I haven’t played that version yet so I may be wrong.
If ur curious the QR code at 10:31 reads "Since the field/qr/ directory doesn't exist, thus no images, this is a mockup of what it would display."
Oh, this might explain a certain bug. If you see the cutscene where Akechi dies, but then don't send calling card to get a bad ending, Akechi is there to arrest you even though he should be dead lol... if his fight was meant to take place during the heist, that would make more sense
Yeah, that explains that.
Wow there was A LOT on the cutting room floor, huh? An amazing conclusion to a fantastic LP. Amazing as always my dude!
Man Im really sad that that police chat was cut. They kinda gloss over that they just had basically the entire police force and SWAT teams enter the Metaverse. Like did any of them see any other police officers get turned into Shadows?
Exactly! And it was only around 30 seconds too!
Im glad they didnt include the doubt/break system. Its not a fun mechanic being basically forced to hang out with someone just to keep their perk
The World arcana did end up getting used in Royal for Izanagi no Okami. No confidant for it, though
15:47 That would have been interesting. My guess is that it would have been the Shido's interpretation of Akechi, assuming the boiler scene wasn't removed.
16:44 Aw, that's adorable.
19:02 So were they planned for the World arcana or those Personas replaced others in other arcanas, making these redundant?
22:03 Oh, you remembered why you crashed in the game when Haru was driving you?
23:43 *Looks at my hoard of pirated ttrpg books and magazines.* Yeah, that checks out.
34:40 Ah, so potentially that mechanic from P4 would return.
38:07 Guess they didn't want to use the discount store for that? Either that or discount stores work differently in Japan.
38:45 Ngl, the gun one should have sticked around, just reworked so that when read, you could unlock more guns from Iwai.
49:40 Finally realized you aren't splitting this into two videos with voice clips in separate one.
52:54 Interesting.
55:58 Considering when it happens, I would really hope this was him checking to see if Ann was fit for Ren.
56:06 Exactly that.
58:05 This could also work as Strikers foreshadow, lol.
1:07:24 These lines do imply that this isn't just Akechi from Joker's memory.
38:45 That'd make sense, although it might've been annoying to lock them behind a book, unless they were as OP as the Technical bonuses from reading Knowing The Heart.
49:40 I thought it was best to put them all in one.
55:58 Me too.
Absolutely amazing video. Your extras/unused content videos are always very thorough and high-quality but this one is on an entirely different level since there's even more documented stuff to talk about in P5.
I truly hope when more things are discovered about the P5 early builds that were leaked just a few weeks after this video released you can do a follow-up video focused solely on them. You briefly mentioned the Ryuji beatdown scenes' early versions being more violent since that was still just a rumor at the time of the video's release but now we have confirmation for that and many other things
I might do another one when the info from the early build is more... consolidated somewhere. I'd want to be as comprehensive as possible and it might take a while for everything to be discovered and gathered.
The scrapped fail for the qlipoth deadline is so eerie
Its gotta be the sojiro line that gets me, like, the implications of everyone else being converted to the 'inmates' of depths is quite sad when you think it probably happened to the rest of the party and all your confidants too
58:21 "And some lines implying that where you enter a palace from in the real world affects where you start in the palace." [Ann's line abotu Futaba's palace] "Which is not true of the final story."
Yes but no.
In the scene where Ann & Morgana use the Metanav to escape Madarame's locked room with Yusuke, they do not arrive through the front of the palace like usual. Instead, they literally fall out of the sky, probably a 100 feet above the ground. They end up right where Ren & Ryuji were waiting in the palace, outside the entrance to the locked room. They likely were right outside of the locked when they used the Metanav.
Another scene that goes against this statement is from Shido's palace. Ryuji supposedly drowns/gets blown up, and he exits from a different area than the party. He returns to the real world "I was lyin' on the grass". The rest of the PTs return at the front entrance, standing up, versus Ryuji who was far away enough they didn't notice him, and he was lyin' on the grass.
Ann's line complains about having to ride through the Mona Bus with no AC. In game, the player just arrives at the front of the palace. But for all we know, maybe they did have to ride through the desert each time. Maybe they did walk from the Metaverse Teikyu Accessway to Central Street for Kaneshiro's Palace. In scene, Ryuji complains about having to walk all the way to Madarame's shack. But in game, we just get to the palace from the accessway.
The only thing that I can think of that contradicts this is the fact the og PT hideout is the rooftop and the arrive at the front gate.
If they entered from the rooftop, they should have started at the tower. But the parts of the story with scenes that show their location don't involve the rooftop.
When Ren meets Ryuji, Ryuji activates the Metanav, and judging by the red/black splash effects and eerie music, they were already in the Metaverse before they found the castle. They entered from that spot, and they started in that spot.
The next day Ryuji and Ren enter from the front gate, they arrive at the front gate.
Ren, Ryuji, and Morgana enter from the alleyway on the side of the school when Ann follows them. And they arrive nearby the front gate.
So the hideout doesn't prove anything on palace entry location.
Did I just write a whole essay over two lines? Yes.
CAUSE IT IS TRUE IN THE FINAL STORY!!!
I died at the Akechi mouse squeaks 😂
I wasn't expecting him to literally say "squeak squeak squeak".
10/10 video!
yooo i was wondering if you ever were gonna do a unused content video againn, nice :D
You couldn't put Mishima off you? God, he's so needy.
I have a theory about the level 95 Metatron Mementos request: Although it didn't make it into main game, it instead became what we now know as one of the challenge battles where Metatron along with other high level personas have to be taken out with certain conditions to qualify for first place high score. Just my two cents.
Basically all the Personas that never appeared as Shadows in vanilla got used in Royal. Most in challenge battles, and Yoshitsune as a Mementos request.
I guess we'll see a part 2 to this video now in a few years lol.
I literally JUST saw the aged-up Nanako model. For now, I'm waiting for more info to come out.
Now we got double the unused lately, fuckin insane it happened at all
i wish the palace ruler flashbacks werent cut but i guess they where kinda used in maruki palace where you learn about why did he become a ruler in the first place
I've been waiting for this!
Seriously this alot of unused content that pretty interesting. I guess that what happen when this game was developed for 8 years. wished we got those will seeds flashbacks, it would be insightful for why the targets do what they do.
I also have to bring up that during the gap between persona 4 & 5, there was fanmade persona 5 OST called persona image project that used songs different artist to brain a persona game, some of it is pretty cool and surprising some of the juniebox songs do fit persona 5(like the "free" song from "oasis")
Also recently watch Godzilla minus one. Will said it has the best human cast in any of the Godzilla film and one awesome thing, but that a spoiler.
I would've liked to have seen Kaneshiro's flashbacks, just because he could use some backstory. Shido flashbacks also could've been interesting.
Dear god. I am glad that the neglect Confidant didn't return in P5 because that was a VERY ANNOYING feature of P3 FES that I hated. However the removed/cut stuff was indeed interesting. Especially Akechi's Palace.
I'm glad Reload removed the neglect thing, but still kept Reverse for bad dialogue choices. Feels more realistic when your social circle doesn't unconditionally like you all the time.
@@BigKlingy That I can agree with.
It’s interesting that in Royal, Maruki and Kasumi both have Doubt and break dialogue that states that if you see that message, it’s a bug, but Sumire’s line *doesn’t* call it a bug. Maybe this implies that originally, you might be able to Break Sumire’s confidant.
I noticed a few of these lost bits show up in the strikers spin off, like where you enter a palace from in the real world affects where you start
Strikers also adapted the "road trip" original planned P5 plot, though for just Japan.
Another thought I have for the "Follow Claw" is, that it might not hint at another Weapon, but it might ust be used for Morgana since Follow Sword was already taken. They could have made changed Yosukes to "Follow Katana" or something, but maybe it got scraped before someone thought of that.
Although Id say Clawweapons are hella cool.
Are you avoiding me? YES AKECHI OBVIOUSLY YES
The Crossroads Bar Cutscene is the closest we get to the Adult Confidant AU. 😢
It made me think of it too. Well, that and Tactica.
tbh, i think the “sells for a lot, but…” treasure items were most likely meant to have actual uses, with the “but…” implying that they had other uses. perhaps in scraped missions where you would give the item to a person (examples being the milk bottle and the phone), accessory items (most likely the case for the earrings and the two statues), or maybe even gift items that either joker would give to a confidant or be given to him by said confidant (which could explain the silk bundle), or it could imply that there was a problem with the items.
If you count DLCs, in Royal, Izanagi-No-Ookami & Izanagi-No-Ookami Picaro are defined under the World Arcana ingame.
I do wonder if they would've put Satanael under World also if that stayed a mechanic within the game? I would assume probably so?
Edit: Something else that just crossed my mind, the Iwai Will Seed cutscene is probably referencing the person in Kochiji who you can trade items to for other items (You can see what item the kid wants in the day and trade it to something to him at night). They may have repurposed him after coming up with Jose?
80% of content that have been cut out for games always be like super cool and fun to actually have in the game, the one thing about morganas social link is that it's story bound so for him to have dialogue about ignoring the cat that is with you 24/7 is weird maybe he wasn't gonna be a story bound social link im guessing
6:02 I noticed it WAS used at the beach when you ryuji and yusuke went to get info about the phantom thieves, or at least something similar
The idea with the flashbacks of the past of the palace rulers was later reused in Maruki's Palace and to some degree also in Strikers
the 3rd semester confrontations are so good
also, the thing with joker’s 2nd awakening persona, was most likely a place holder for his final one, since both are the same person, with one being the younger version (the one we got in the release).
I would have loved a confidant for the foreigner, listening to him talk to that cat always made me smile. I always wanted to learn more about him, and hoped the game would somehow give you a way to make him feel less lonely in a foreign country.
Bebe was also one of my favorite confidants in Persona 3, but with how the whole game is so heavily a deep exploration of Japanese culture and it's issues I can get why they might have wanted to scrap this.
I do also think that it could have been a really could chance to explore the way Japan treats foreigners, though I suppose maybe they figured they covered that a bit through Ann?
Agreed, that guy is one of my favourite NPCs.
5:52 i dont think that this is true. the beginning of futaba and sae's palaces both have the thieves traverse without being considered threats and they use these animations there. i swear when i read the cutting room floor page for royal it said specifically that there were problems setting yoshizawa's follow flag because they gave her ann's animations. i think its more accurate to say it saw little use outside of the metaverse because, from what i remember, the only sequences where youre followed by somebody in the overworld are with mishima before the kamoshida confrontation, with ryuji during the first mandatory shinjuku trip, and with makoto during one of her later confidant events