Fun fact - the early Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There vocals [starting at 2:07] were sung by Yumi Kawamura, the lead vocalist for P3! Hard to mistake her vocal style and timbre. Likely they hadn't cast Lyn yet for main vocals on P5 by this point in the beta.
its possible but i like to believe she only recorded it as a demo for the vocalist that they would eventually find (that being Lyn)@@guerreromedieval1003
@@wearepristin That's very likely since they lyrics are mostly just nonsense in Kawamura's version, so it's probably just what they wanted the song to sound like.
If that store remained “Bitch Feet” I have no doubt in my mind that the internet would’ve made it into a whole thing that most likely would’ve escaped the realm of Persona
Add that with recent events of Dan and the quiet on set documentary, this comment is aging well so far in the sense of “truth” ☠️ that your not far off . Stay golden my boy
It does appear a few times in the Game for example when they searched for a new target after kamoshida and when they were looking up the Website for Mementos Quests
I think there's an older older version of the scene with Ryuji being hit by everyone, where even Yusuke punches him. And the girls instead of slapping him, they beat the shit out of him with punches. So yeah, that scene was toned down TWICE, one where they changed the punche to slap and make Yusuke just complain, and another one where they just skipped it. It's insane.
@@badatgamesguy5399 I think one person REALLY wanted Ryuji assaulted and everyone was trying to tone it down cus that one person was the only person to find it funny. This stuff does happen, sometimes there’s just ONE person in power that can decide everything and everyone else has to scramble to appease them. So I’m wondering if this was a directorial decision. And then in Royal they added the thieves den confirmation that they apologized to Ryuji. It really feels like they were trying to backtrack and tone it down as much as possible.
That scene is so bad it's crazy that it used to be *worse*, though let's be real it'd be better if that scene was just completely cut, even ignoring the trope Ryuji's confidant has him bring up that his dad was a physically abusive drunk so it's just really unpleasant
A lot of the new models do not indicate that those characters would have been in the game. Nanako is interesting, but Yu Narukami and Yukari are probably no different than Lisa Silverman being in Nocturne's beta build.
Yeah I feel like Yu might of been used in the very very very early 2012-2013 beta for testing and maybe the nanako age up was a weird but interesting way to test out female models but I don’t know
Old cast members making cameos aren’t new but none have been plot relevant outside of spin-offs since persona 2 (where some of the p1 crew is involved with the story’s unfolding events) As for the spin offs you have the p3 crew shown in their young 20’s during the events of 4 arena . We’ve yet to see the p4 crew in that age yet outside of their dancing game which shows us they aged some but you can tell it’s still very early adult hood. Otherwise no doubt be ready to hear something about the phantom thieves in 6 as a little Easter egg or nod . And hopefully we get to see more old cast members, if not in 6 I see hopes in a spin-off (which don’t fret the dancing games and arena are canon to the story , Q is debatable since atlus never outright said it’s events are canon , but what’s unfolded in the games does shed light and makes sense of “some things , for me it’s the reminder there are beings on “philemons” level (so on par of most final bosses in each persona game holding on to that high grade deity status)
You could just play P5 Strikers. You know how when a company loses the rights to a character, they make an off-brand version that's the same, but legally distinct? I feel like Strikers' writers wanted the Dojima family to guest star, but couldn't convince whoever had final say, so they compromised and invented strikingly similar characters instead.
Yeah Persona 5 will flip flop between great social commentary and awareness of societal issues, then have the student that has suffered frkm physical abuse get beat up as a gag
@@KoryLunaaEarly P5 has some beautiful moments and well done commentary. It really is such a shame that they seem to drop it around halfway into the game. And they just stop being delinquents too! That was like, half of the game's advertising...
I'm guessing a lot of theses are place-holder assets back when they were still getting the basics up and running (like vincent and catherine or chie cut-in) It's an easy way to use assets that are on-hand to fill in the blanks and test stuff.
Considering Sho was suppossedly going to be the next protag it explains that part, but I'm pretty sure they made a genderbend because of how well received it was in P3P and they ended up dropping both ideas 😔
ooo that is a good idea, my other thought would be the scraped Akechi palace (would have happened in between Sae and Shido). we don't know a lot about it but still
4:18 I’ve heard talk of Catherine being a test for the engine that they were using for P5 So maybe the Catherine stuff seen in P5’s code was just stuff when they were in early testing before the P5 stuff was made (like how I believe u can see P3 stuff in P4’s code if that makes sence)
Yeah they made Catherine as test for their new in house engine to make rpgs with in the future. Despite that Atlus has only ever made 2 rpgs with that game engine, Persona 5/royal and now metaphor.
hearing Su sa no pronounced Sus ano was not something I ever encountered. But now I can't imagine the ancient folklore wargod as anything but an imposter.
For persona 4, it made sense for Yosuke, his character arc reeked of insecurities, with how much he was ganging up on Kanji, you would imagine he was picking up on what he hated in himself and thus, being gay but kind of homophobic would make sense and it would complete his arc. Ryuji, on the other hand.... It would be cool, but they don't usually add stuff if it doesn't serve a narrative purpose or fan service
@@m.l.7558 yosukes character arc was about him realizing the weight of a love that couldn't be, if you added the romance shit on top of that it would've just been jarring
Fun fact: a model for the female protagonist is left over in the files of the finished game however she lacks any textures (you can find it documented on the cutting room floor)
Just wanna say I appreciate you making this in a video and making it easy to access on RUclips and actually telling and showing us very appreciated my guy
4:44 I think that's the first time I've seen the female protagonist with any color. It's crazy how she's the only thing that survived the original Persona 5 being scrapped. And that they still gave her Sho Minazuki's color scheme despite the fact that he had been scrapped as the protagonist some time between 2010 and 2012.
I was totally hoping we would get a Beta dump of P5 ever since I heard about Sae's cut poker event and the Madarame painting room. Both of which are in the files of this build! One more field I'm hoping they find in the early builds is this one screenshot from a 2015 magazine advertising P5 where it showed the P. Thieves on a plank between two building roofs in the city within Futaba's palace, something that never is seen in the final game.
I like how people in the company holds on to sh** like this without telling anybody then out of NOWHERE you get something like a beta or demo ready to be auctioned off 20 years later
as a ryuji fanboy, actually SEEING the team slap him, I can see the comedic affect, its very out of left field and dramatic to the point its funny. I think the more worst part of the finalized version is how the party left him alone unconscious in the city instead of actually hitting him.
Is it confirmed that the red haired girl was a female protagonist? Because they stated after P3P they would never do dual protagonists again, because it is so much extra work. She does look like one of the original character designs for Metaphor ReFantazio though, which was in early stages in 2015.
I would definitely love a mod that adds concept art Morgana in. The whole "monster cat" bit would make much more sense with him looking less like the average cutesy mascot.
No one talking about how the woman in 4:44 looks just like Sho Minazuki from P4AU? They look exactly the same but reversed genders. Considering Tsukiyomi made it into P5 as a DLC Persona, I wonder if they had more plans with Sho. Shame, because he's one of the coolest characters in the series imo
Apperently Sho was meant to be P5's protagonist but somewhere down the line they completely scrapped that idea (from P4AU's code and the manga). so it'll made sense why P5's FeMC looks like Sho
I wanna download the beta's so bad, but after the Wolverine leaked build dmca scare, I'm afraid to download ANY leaked shit😭😭😭 The cons of having the hobby of loving early/cut content in media💔
afraid of what? the dmca stuff only goes after the leakers and distributors to try to scare them into not leaking things or to take them down, it doesn't target anyone who downloads the leaked content since that's impossible to enforce (for one, they have no way to actually track who downloaded it, but those who upload it are much easier to track, they contact the service it was uploaded to and request the uploader's ip address and other data if it's a paid server).
Bro the beta music hits so hard. They had no excuses to not drop them in the metaverse or music streaming services. I heard it was going to be a rather different game from how things turned out, wicked to see some of the ideas they where going for. I really love the proto animations and intro theme too! It really sets off the charm (though maybe reveals too much for new players?) I'm not even anime mad, I just got into P5 a few years back but i've a ton of appreciation for this genre now.
Incase anyone is wondering here’s what the place holder calling cards say (note that I used a translator and some context clues so it might not be exact) “When I appear, The countdown begins. When the clock points to zero, your shameful daily life will never be the same. Let us start the game. -The one who is searching for Justice” “Kaneshiro (or Okumura or Sae) Dummy Edition ※Sfant♪”
How does Persona 5 have so much cut content? This and Royal is a bit insane. I think Royal should’ve kept some of the cut content but I can kinda see why so much was changed from the beta stuff.
Troubled development, the game was originally supposed to be about the phantom thieves changing hearts all across Japan or world, instead of just Tokyo, which explains the Nanako and Yukari models. Eventually the game was redone after the earthquake from 2011. I imagine a lot of games or movies made in Japan were changed thanks to that, just like how 9/11 changed games like GTA 3.
Seeing all the reused Catherine and Persona 4 assets is really interesting. In a lot of early builds studios will just reuse assets just for testing and placeholders. But on the other hand, this could hint at what their original idea was to roadtrip around Japan and meet old characters.
I think it emphasizes how close they’d planned the first release of p5, since Altus always references previous games in the next one - it was supposed to piggyback off of p4 and Catherine. Ending up with almost 10 years between them, I can see why they’d remove the bigger references
Very curious to notice that they had the opening video already done two years before release. This would explain the nonesensical skating routine that had no connection whatsoever with the actual game 🤣
It definitely has a different vibe compared to the final game, especially with how Yusuke, Makoto, Futaba, and Haru seem like they have completely different personalities. I was surprised at how goofball they all ended up being, whereas Ryuji, Mona, and Ann were accurately cheery.
I wonder if the train conductor like shadow is a cut shadow for the scraped Akechi palace? cause like, its files in at least the og game (not sure if its still in Royal, any of the left behind stuff for this Akechi palace) the palace numbers internally have a spot in between Sae and Shido (Sae is like 57 and Shidos is 59 or something like that). there are some shadow hold up dialogue for a "Master Akechi" too. I don't think we know much about how it would look or work but still
The FEMC design is super interesting because there are unused voice lines talking about the p5 hero and his persona in persona 4 arena ultimax and Sho Minazuki (an original character for the game) looks almost exactly like a gender swapped version of the FEMC which makes me think he was possibly a tweaked version of the original design for Joker
Yeah after finding out they cut an early Joker from Ultimax and then seeing the concept art for the original two protagonists I feel like Sho was made from those early concepts before they ultimately chose the current Joker design instead. Especially since Sho looks similar to the cut FeMC and even current Joker to me rather than the art style of the 3/4 characters.
@@petergriscom3431 I mean I think Arsene definitely fits better than Mephistopheles, like the entire games plot is just one big Arsene Lupin reference lol
I really do think one person wanted the slapping but the rest of the team didn’t. And that’s why there’s so many iterations of that scene where they tone it down. Kinda like how P3 had that one beach dialogue and every subsequent game or adaption changed it. Like i totally get why Ann was upset but why the heck was everyone else unhappy?? lol
a lot of this looks more like placeholder art. i doubt they were seriously considering putting catherine and vincent in P5. though, a female protag would be cool! i wish they return to that idea in persona 6!
honestly part of me kinda hopes that they do some kind of directors cut of persona 5 that restores some of these elements older persona 4 characters sounds really freaking cool
Three simple words: We were robbed. Especially when it comes to Nanako, I'd love for Atlus to bring back older characters and Nanako is at the forefront of that even ignoring my love for P4. She'd be a great party member in a game where she's grown up and this could've been a taste of that. But hey, I'm a Hollow Knight fan who's waiting for Silksong still, a little more copium in my veins couldn't hurt.
The middle development builds are way more interesting than near completion builds, there was already another build of the game that was dated Feb 25 which was 7 months before the final release. Also, the wolverine build was from very early in development, not in the middle, which is why it has a ton of missing graphics. GTA6 on the other hand, besides the debug menus the game looks like it's almost done
@deepflare128 1) you learn way more from a completed build as in development builds are usually disconnected assets and tests while later builds have everything put together. 2) leaks like this have a massive impact on development as the story is often spoiled, public perception is ruined and often employee data is leaked like in insomiacs case.
@@danielgrezda3339 1) Not really, there's barely anything different from the final game in most near completion builds. Besides debug mode and a couple of different scenes and unused graphics or even different music. The Pokemon Diamond and Pearl early build leaks are a prime example. There was barely a difference from the near final build to final build. While the very early January build had a ton of interesting stuff like early pokemon designs, early music and early graphics. 2) True, but that's not relevant in the case of Persona 5, as the game has already been released. Most of the time early builds are leaked from private sellers years after the game released, unlike Wolverine's case where private information of Insomniac's employees were leaked sadly. Seeing game builds leaked before the game has even released is a very rare event, but I fear it'll be more common in the future.
I have so much admiration for that little project, even if most of it was taken from existing sources and edited to fit the project. AxP5 we're just so cool.
Seeing a more grown up Nanako was awesome, until I saw that someone already made lewd art of her :| In P5 time she’s still not that old, so it’s actually disgusting
A lot of what you saw it's typical stuff for development, for example the usage of those models and portraits of Persona 3 and 4 plus Catherine, when you don't have everything done, you just fill with stuff you have around if you are not going to show it to the public and it's just internal stuff. So for the next time, just ignore that kind of stuff and focus more on stuff like that new animations, that Sae palace was bigger, etc. You know the kind of stuff i mean.
I hear ya but this video was meant to go over all the findings in the beta even the placeholders I also just think it's cool that they did that. But thanks for looking out!
@@Neglected_Nuggets Okay, i didn't know, i was more worry about people maybe thinking that this was suppose to be like a big Persona crossover at one point, because the developers played around with P4 protags model in the beginnings of development to get the looks right, etc.
@@micah0000 How much do you want to bet that, they not ever even you for the remakes, maybe for the dancing all night games, but i wouldn't put much stock into that, my best bet, they grab the old PS2 models played a bit in upgrading then and get the look they wanted and then proceed to use them for testing.
@@micah0000 Believe it or not, is cheaper to upgrade old stuff then wasting money on newers models, that if you don't know what you are doing or looking for, you may end up wasting more money on the newer models because you want to upgrade then. So they upgrade older models to have they look they wanted, then when they had everything on a level they through acceptable, created newer models for the game. Cutting corners is important in any game development.
@@micah0000 No, again, you port assets from old games and give them a small upgrade, that's cheaper because you don't have to create the model from zero. As for why multiples, well, tell me do all the models look the same in P5? No, so you want to test the multiple kind of builds you will go for.
5:17 Is it just me or these portraits actually looks like the anime adaptation design? 6:32 I think this is the shot where they forced her to take drug.
I’d rather she had been FeMC so she could be contained to her own route instead of forcing her way into Joker’s. Also cut FeMC resembles Sho Minazuki fron P4AU as well
@@TREVORVADER she isn’t my favorite but I see her compared to rise from p4 and Ann is my favorite in p5 interms of female characters but Makoto is another option I can never really choose
hell yeah I absolutely adore unused/cut content left over or leaked out for us to dissect! I appreciate you putting full sprite pages for even the calendars and sharing placeholders too lol idc I wanna see it ALL! Take my sub dawg
Hifumi herself wasn't meant to be a phantom thief, the party member would've been like Hifumi, a strategist, but this ended up becoming a part of Makoto, meanwhile their appearance became Hifumi's
@@riv7797It still would've been cool to have two different kinds of strategist, especially since it fits with the Phantom Thieves' theme of butting heads like a *GREAT VALUE* Lupin's gang. Though it felt like they half-ditched the whole team roles thing by the time Noir joins.
8:22 holy shit I'm not crazy, even before I became a persona fan I vividly remember seeing that place but when I played it wasn't there it's been bothering me for years
It _is_ Yumi Kawamura. They probably hadn't finished casting a vocalist, and got Yumi to do a placeholder while they were still writing the lyrics. You should look up the beta version of Burn My Dread, it went through a similar process, and it sounds kinda cool.
Dang, we truly needed that Nanako to see how she has been grown up into fine teen. Our best girl doesn't deserved stuck with being a slave of JUNE (Just incase someone doesn't know, there is too many fans meme about Nanako being depressed overworking inside JUNE lol.)
You should play P5 Strikers if you haven't. There's a couple of characters so similar to the Dojima family, they must've been a compromise in lieu of getting permission to actually use those two.
Discovering bitch feet was the best thing I ever did, glad to contribute some things to this video.
You have to admit "Bitch Feet" would be an amazing IRL name for a shoe store.
O stop self promoting no one cares
thank you for your service o7
@dougr8646
Now now, there’s no need to call yourself that.
Fun fact - the early Wake Up, Get Up, Get Out There vocals [starting at 2:07] were sung by Yumi Kawamura, the lead vocalist for P3! Hard to mistake her vocal style and timbre. Likely they hadn't cast Lyn yet for main vocals on P5 by this point in the beta.
¿Podría ser que al principio querían que volviera a interpretar a un juego de «Persona»?
its possible but i like to believe she only recorded it as a demo for the vocalist that they would eventually find (that being Lyn)@@guerreromedieval1003
agree
@@wearepristin That's very likely since they lyrics are mostly just nonsense in Kawamura's version, so it's probably just what they wanted the song to sound like.
Also lead vocal of P1 psp remake
If that store remained “Bitch Feet” I have no doubt in my mind that the internet would’ve made it into a whole thing that most likely would’ve escaped the realm of Persona
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Add that with recent events of Dan and the quiet on set documentary, this comment is aging well so far in the sense of “truth” ☠️ that your not far off .
Stay golden my boy
@@johnathanortiz3066what
@@hikawagetsbitcheshikawa does NOT get bitches 😭
The famous phantom thieves, consisting of:
- Female Joker
- Akihiko
- Chie
- Yukari
- And the Catherine characters
hes been waiting for this
hes been waiting for this
hes been waiting for this
How it should've been, plus Adult Nanako
hes been waiting for this
that Yukari 3D model actually looked so good
I think they just used it for inspiration I feel like
@@akai3974Like the Maya model in Nocturne.
If I'm not wrong, I think the zoomed in phone might be when Mishima shows Joker the Phantom Thieves fan website he made
It does appear a few times in the Game for example when they searched for a new target after kamoshida and when they were looking up the Website for Mementos Quests
7:10 this is probably an unused version of the fusion execution, which looks very gruesome with blood everywhere and joker, picking up his new mask
BRUH I wish we'd gotten that instead...
@@IceQueen975 it would probably get an AO rating at that point
@@adrianquinton2008 Tbf P5 (2017) was Pegi-18 (European rating for 18+) (thx Mara *cough cough*)
@@xpendore ah, yes mara the dick chariot
It probably got removed cause it tells the player somethings up with Igor and the velvet room way too early.
I think there's an older older version of the scene with Ryuji being hit by everyone, where even Yusuke punches him. And the girls instead of slapping him, they beat the shit out of him with punches.
So yeah, that scene was toned down TWICE, one where they changed the punche to slap and make Yusuke just complain, and another one where they just skipped it. It's insane.
Honestly at that point why they didn't just cut it all together is baffling to me
I get the anime trope of a guy getting beat up by girls as a comedic thing, but damn that was undeserved.
@@badatgamesguy5399 I think one person REALLY wanted Ryuji assaulted and everyone was trying to tone it down cus that one person was the only person to find it funny.
This stuff does happen, sometimes there’s just ONE person in power that can decide everything and everyone else has to scramble to appease them. So I’m wondering if this was a directorial decision.
And then in Royal they added the thieves den confirmation that they apologized to Ryuji. It really feels like they were trying to backtrack and tone it down as much as possible.
That scene is so bad it's crazy that it used to be *worse*, though let's be real it'd be better if that scene was just completely cut, even ignoring the trope Ryuji's confidant has him bring up that his dad was a physically abusive drunk so it's just really unpleasant
@@nathanblackburn1193 I absolutely agree, it is really unnecessary, mean, and very uncomfortable.
A lot of the new models do not indicate that those characters would have been in the game. Nanako is interesting, but Yu Narukami and Yukari are probably no different than Lisa Silverman being in Nocturne's beta build.
I wasn't really saying that but it's just cool that stuff is in the files
@Neglected_Nuggets Nah I figured you know. I was more commenting it for others before some bs rumors get thrown around
I mean they aren't.
Still crazy cool to see Yukari and Yu with proper next gen proportions way back then
Yeah I feel like Yu might of been used in the very very very early 2012-2013 beta for testing and maybe the nanako age up was a weird but interesting way to test out female models but I don’t know
6:08 final joker drawing "😏"
unused joker drawing "😟"
Holy Shit grown up Nanako i was literally thinking she should be a Social Link in Persona 6 but she almost made it into Persona 5!?!?
For some reason she looks like an elongated child
@@ShuckleII i don't think she would be an adult yet if the game took place around 2015/2016
@@Risette Yeah. Apparently she's actually around the same age as futaba?
Looked it up. She's 2004 born. So she's 3 yrs younger than futaba.
@@htsunmikuthe model doesn’t make her look 12 tho
Old cast members making cameos aren’t new but none have been plot relevant outside of spin-offs since persona 2 (where some of the p1 crew is involved with the story’s unfolding events)
As for the spin offs you have the p3 crew shown in their young 20’s during the events of 4 arena . We’ve yet to see the p4 crew in that age yet outside of their dancing game which shows us they aged some but you can tell it’s still very early adult hood.
Otherwise no doubt be ready to hear something about the phantom thieves in 6 as a little Easter egg or nod . And hopefully we get to see more old cast members, if not in 6 I see hopes in a spin-off (which don’t fret the dancing games and arena are canon to the story , Q is debatable since atlus never outright said it’s events are canon , but what’s unfolded in the games does shed light and makes sense of “some things , for me it’s the reminder there are beings on “philemons” level (so on par of most final bosses in each persona game holding on to that high grade deity status)
Teenage Nanako being planned at one is crazy, that’s something I still want to see in the future.
You could just play P5 Strikers. You know how when a company loses the rights to a character, they make an off-brand version that's the same, but legally distinct? I feel like Strikers' writers wanted the Dojima family to guest star, but couldn't convince whoever had final say, so they compromised and invented strikingly similar characters instead.
I can't decide which one is worse, Kanashiro forcefully filling up Makoto with booze or Ryuji getting beat up in crisp HD.
Both are bad!
They did Ryuji dirty
Ryuji
Yeah Persona 5 will flip flop between great social commentary and awareness of societal issues, then have the student that has suffered frkm physical abuse get beat up as a gag
@@KoryLunaaEarly P5 has some beautiful moments and well done commentary. It really is such a shame that they seem to drop it around halfway into the game.
And they just stop being delinquents too! That was like, half of the game's advertising...
I'm guessing a lot of theses are place-holder assets back when they were still getting the basics up and running (like vincent and catherine or chie cut-in) It's an easy way to use assets that are on-hand to fill in the blanks and test stuff.
That’s almost exactly what they were
All this music sounds like a timetraveler moved a chair.
is anyone gonna talk about how p5 femc looks like a fem sho minazuki from P4AU
no? just me?
alright
congrats on her transition
Sho was coded as "p5hero" in game code
Actually, she reminded me of the early reveal of Project Re:Fantazio.
Considering Sho was suppossedly going to be the next protag it explains that part, but I'm pretty sure they made a genderbend because of how well received it was in P3P and they ended up dropping both ideas 😔
nahh i think she looks more like Sophia in P5S
Watching that that beta intro movie is like looking at a alternate/parallel universe version of Persona 5.
Yea, the much more undercooked gaming industry universe. We're already heading in that direction.
the train conductor shadow was definitely for mementos
Or perhaps a leftover from when the game was about travelling the world? Who knows.
ooo that is a good idea, my other thought would be the scraped Akechi palace (would have happened in between Sae and Shido). we don't know a lot about it but still
omg is that Yumi Kawamura singing!!!
That's the most surprising honestly
4:18
I’ve heard talk of Catherine being a test for the engine that they were using for P5
So maybe the Catherine stuff seen in P5’s code was just stuff when they were in early testing before the P5 stuff was made (like how I believe u can see P3 stuff in P4’s code if that makes sence)
Yeah they made Catherine as test for their new in house engine to make rpgs with in the future. Despite that Atlus has only ever made 2 rpgs with that game engine, Persona 5/royal and now metaphor.
hearing Su sa no pronounced Sus ano was not something I ever encountered.
But now I can't imagine the ancient folklore wargod as anything but an imposter.
Can't wait for an "i love you" ryuji voice line that was from a cut romance option.
Don't think so, buddy, sorry
For persona 4, it made sense for Yosuke, his character arc reeked of insecurities, with how much he was ganging up on Kanji, you would imagine he was picking up on what he hated in himself and thus, being gay but kind of homophobic would make sense and it would complete his arc. Ryuji, on the other hand.... It would be cool, but they don't usually add stuff if it doesn't serve a narrative purpose or fan service
@@m.l.7558 yosukes character arc was about him realizing the weight of a love that couldn't be, if you added the romance shit on top of that it would've just been jarring
@@m.l.7558 I agree. The comment was just a joke lol.
@@dandy5175 So all of the girls s. links can have arcs AND romance but if Yosuke had it then it’s jarring? 💀
Fun fact: a model for the female protagonist is left over in the files of the finished game however she lacks any textures (you can find it documented on the cutting room floor)
I wish they’d used the OG blackmail photo of Makoto. Potential 4chan edits aside, it makes much more sense that what we got in the final
Now that's proper blackmail underage drinking 🤯
Just wanna say I appreciate you making this in a video and making it easy to access on RUclips and actually telling and showing us very appreciated my guy
3:55 bro really said fursona lmao
Nah no way I said persona bruh 😭
@@Neglected_Nuggets Come! Fursona!
And then proceeded to pronounce Susano-o as "ඞ-a'no."
4:44 I think that's the first time I've seen the female protagonist with any color. It's crazy how she's the only thing that survived the original Persona 5 being scrapped. And that they still gave her Sho Minazuki's color scheme despite the fact that he had been scrapped as the protagonist some time between 2010 and 2012.
I was totally hoping we would get a Beta dump of P5 ever since I heard about Sae's cut poker event and the Madarame painting room. Both of which are in the files of this build!
One more field I'm hoping they find in the early builds is this one screenshot from a 2015 magazine advertising P5 where it showed the P. Thieves on a plank between two building roofs in the city within Futaba's palace, something that never is seen in the final game.
I'm hoping they find an early enough build that Arsene is still Mephistopheles.
I like how people in the company holds on to sh** like this without telling anybody then out of NOWHERE you get something like a beta or demo ready to be auctioned off 20 years later
Okay I'm REALLY glad they took out the scene of Ryuji getting slapped repeatedly. Yikes.
as a ryuji fanboy, actually SEEING the team slap him, I can see the comedic affect, its very out of left field and dramatic to the point its funny.
I think the more worst part of the finalized version is how the party left him alone unconscious in the city instead of actually hitting him.
Is it confirmed that the red haired girl was a female protagonist? Because they stated after P3P they would never do dual protagonists again, because it is so much extra work. She does look like one of the original character designs for Metaphor ReFantazio though, which was in early stages in 2015.
it could've also been a very early design for one of the social links that was used for testing
holy shit guys
holy shit
holy shit
holy fucking shit
Imagine them having to animate a bunch of ppl beating up a boy who was formerly assaulted and disabled.
P5 is nuts.
Especially considering what he just went through to get you out of that palace alive. The P Thieves' group dynamic is downright cartoony.
The OG Morgana concept art design and the unused FEMC design would be cool to be repurposed in fan content.
I would definitely love a mod that adds concept art Morgana in. The whole "monster cat" bit would make much more sense with him looking less like the average cutesy mascot.
You’re telling me we almost had a FeMC again? 😢
Planning since the beginning. Hopefully we'll get another one in Persona 6 or Persona 3 Reload+
Yeah Atlus said they cut it before the game came out because it would honestly take even longer to make
@@BuryTheLight-tds very unlikely. they said they won't do that again. even the new IP metaphor doesn't have one
7:40 That awakening actually goes hard as fuck
Edit: or actually it was probably a early execution cutscene
No one talking about how the woman in 4:44 looks just like Sho Minazuki from P4AU? They look exactly the same but reversed genders. Considering Tsukiyomi made it into P5 as a DLC Persona, I wonder if they had more plans with Sho. Shame, because he's one of the coolest characters in the series imo
Apperently Sho was meant to be P5's protagonist but somewhere down the line they completely scrapped that idea (from P4AU's code and the manga).
so it'll made sense why P5's FeMC looks like Sho
5:10 Joker without eyes is the most cursed thing I've ever seen
So much cool stuff
the ryuji beat up scene was cleared from my mind until i saw the beta clip from a reddit notification and it just hurt my soul
the fact that the beta gameplay just looks like the nintendo switch port is hillarious lmao
1:37 This is like finding burn my dread beta
I wanna download the beta's so bad, but after the Wolverine leaked build dmca scare, I'm afraid to download ANY leaked shit😭😭😭 The cons of having the hobby of loving early/cut content in media💔
can u explain the wolverine leak? i haven’t heard of it omg
afraid of what? the dmca stuff only goes after the leakers and distributors to try to scare them into not leaking things or to take them down, it doesn't target anyone who downloads the leaked content since that's impossible to enforce (for one, they have no way to actually track who downloaded it, but those who upload it are much easier to track, they contact the service it was uploaded to and request the uploader's ip address and other data if it's a paid server).
That is what VPNs are for pal
@@ShuckleII hes just talking about viruses. Its not some social issue, people are just paranoid about getting malware when downloading that shit
Bro the beta music hits so hard. They had no excuses to not drop them in the metaverse or music streaming services. I heard it was going to be a rather different game from how things turned out, wicked to see some of the ideas they where going for. I really love the proto animations and intro theme too! It really sets off the charm (though maybe reveals too much for new players?) I'm not even anime mad, I just got into P5 a few years back but i've a ton of appreciation for this genre now.
THIS IS NOT A LEAKED BUILD, PLEASE DO NOT CONFLATE LEAKED BUILDS WITH DISCS BOUGHT ON THE AFTERMARKET
FUCK’IN RULES
This is why NDAs exists, it opens speculation on many things
Incase anyone is wondering here’s what the place holder calling cards say (note that I used a translator and some context clues so it might not be exact)
“When I appear,
The countdown begins. When the clock points to zero, your shameful daily life will never be the same.
Let us start the game.
-The one who is searching for Justice”
“Kaneshiro (or Okumura or Sae) Dummy Edition ※Sfant♪”
This video is a great example of: Show, don't just tell.
@@Neglected_Nuggets It was meant as compliment. Sry, English not good, was the sentence structure incorrect?
@@blue-phoenix115 oh my bad dude
How does Persona 5 have so much cut content? This and Royal is a bit insane. I think Royal should’ve kept some of the cut content but I can kinda see why so much was changed from the beta stuff.
Troubled development, the game was originally supposed to be about the phantom thieves changing hearts all across Japan or world, instead of just Tokyo, which explains the Nanako and Yukari models. Eventually the game was redone after the earthquake from 2011. I imagine a lot of games or movies made in Japan were changed thanks to that, just like how 9/11 changed games like GTA 3.
Seeing all the reused Catherine and Persona 4 assets is really interesting. In a lot of early builds studios will just reuse assets just for testing and placeholders. But on the other hand, this could hint at what their original idea was to roadtrip around Japan and meet old characters.
I think it emphasizes how close they’d planned the first release of p5, since Altus always references previous games in the next one - it was supposed to piggyback off of p4 and Catherine. Ending up with almost 10 years between them, I can see why they’d remove the bigger references
woow dat alpha tokyo emergency
If I'm not mistaken, the spot at 8:23 is an entrance to Shinjuku station.
Very curious to notice that they had the opening video already done two years before release.
This would explain the nonesensical skating routine that had no connection whatsoever with the actual game 🤣
It definitely has a different vibe compared to the final game, especially with how Yusuke, Makoto, Futaba, and Haru seem like they have completely different personalities. I was surprised at how goofball they all ended up being, whereas Ryuji, Mona, and Ann were accurately cheery.
I wonder if the train conductor like shadow is a cut shadow for the scraped Akechi palace? cause like, its files in at least the og game (not sure if its still in Royal, any of the left behind stuff for this Akechi palace) the palace numbers internally have a spot in between Sae and Shido (Sae is like 57 and Shidos is 59 or something like that). there are some shadow hold up dialogue for a "Master Akechi" too. I don't think we know much about how it would look or work but still
The FEMC design is super interesting because there are unused voice lines talking about the p5 hero and his persona in persona 4 arena ultimax and Sho Minazuki (an original character for the game) looks almost exactly like a gender swapped version of the FEMC which makes me think he was possibly a tweaked version of the original design for Joker
Yeah after finding out they cut an early Joker from Ultimax and then seeing the concept art for the original two protagonists I feel like Sho was made from those early concepts before they ultimately chose the current Joker design instead.
Especially since Sho looks similar to the cut FeMC and even current Joker to me rather than the art style of the 3/4 characters.
@@TREVORVADER He looks so much like the OG trailer Joker cut in with the shark teeth and more sinister design
@@KNXCKLE yeah
I'm still mad they never went through with making his starting Persona Mephistopheles. Arsene kinda fits, but in a very shallow surface-level way.
@@petergriscom3431 I mean I think Arsene definitely fits better than Mephistopheles, like the entire games plot is just one big Arsene Lupin reference lol
4:44 is it just me or the scrapped femc looks like an early Tae Takemi?
The female protagonist design looks like Sho Minazuki from Persona 4 Arena Ultimax
The unused FEMC design looks like Sho Minazuki from Ultimax
Still does not change its not cool they Slapped Ryuji whenever or not they toned it down
he din't deserve it :(
I really do think one person wanted the slapping but the rest of the team didn’t. And that’s why there’s so many iterations of that scene where they tone it down. Kinda like how P3 had that one beach dialogue and every subsequent game or adaption changed it.
Like i totally get why Ann was upset but why the heck was everyone else unhappy?? lol
a lot of this looks more like placeholder art. i doubt they were seriously considering putting catherine and vincent in P5. though, a female protag would be cool! i wish they return to that idea in persona 6!
they were indeed placeholder art, never intended to be in the game. But it's cool that they used these characters
this video script flows like burning men's soul
honestly
part of me kinda hopes that they do some kind of directors cut of persona 5 that restores some of these elements
older persona 4 characters sounds really freaking cool
Persona 5 Royal+ Expanded and Enhanced Edition be like
They already did a directors cut dude, it's called PERSONA 5 ROYAL. HOW ARE PEOPLE THIS BRAINWASHED INTO TRIPLE BUYING THE SAME GAME AT FULL PRICE?
Keep this for when Atlus eventually pull a Naughty Dog and make a Persona 5 Royal: Remastered Remake for PS7
@@ShuckleII royal wasnt a directors cut
It was a expanded rerelease
@@ShuckleIIthey will do it they will find a way
Tae Takemi got caught slipping idk lmao
What if the train conductor shadow was supposed to be for akechi’s palace? A train palace just sounds like Akechi
Three simple words: We were robbed. Especially when it comes to Nanako, I'd love for Atlus to bring back older characters and Nanako is at the forefront of that even ignoring my love for P4. She'd be a great party member in a game where she's grown up and this could've been a taste of that. But hey, I'm a Hollow Knight fan who's waiting for Silksong still, a little more copium in my veins couldn't hurt.
So jazz wasn’t invented in 2016,
BUT 2015!?
That test animation might be what fusions originally were meant to be
Hope we get more leaks of completed games and not games in the middle of development like the gta and insomniac leaks.
The middle development builds are way more interesting than near completion builds, there was already another build of the game that was dated Feb 25 which was 7 months before the final release. Also, the wolverine build was from very early in development, not in the middle, which is why it has a ton of missing graphics. GTA6 on the other hand, besides the debug menus the game looks like it's almost done
@deepflare128 1) you learn way more from a completed build as in development builds are usually disconnected assets and tests while later builds have everything put together. 2) leaks like this have a massive impact on development as the story is often spoiled, public perception is ruined and often employee data is leaked like in insomiacs case.
@@danielgrezda3339 1) Not really, there's barely anything different from the final game in most near completion builds. Besides debug mode and a couple of different scenes and unused graphics or even different music. The Pokemon Diamond and Pearl early build leaks are a prime example. There was barely a difference from the near final build to final build. While the very early January build had a ton of interesting stuff like early pokemon designs, early music and early graphics.
2) True, but that's not relevant in the case of Persona 5, as the game has already been released. Most of the time early builds are leaked from private sellers years after the game released, unlike Wolverine's case where private information of Insomniac's employees were leaked sadly. Seeing game builds leaked before the game has even released is a very rare event, but I fear it'll be more common in the future.
I'm the only one thinking about persona 5 imagining project?
Same here my friend
I have so much admiration for that little project, even if most of it was taken from existing sources and edited to fit the project.
AxP5 we're just so cool.
@@betuna9487for real dud.
Why is this so unnerving. Im legit getting scared watching like beta footage of stuff. Very interesting tho
Seeing a more grown up Nanako was awesome, until I saw that someone already made lewd art of her :|
In P5 time she’s still not that old, so it’s actually disgusting
She's like 12 in p5 time that ai art is Gross
@@Neglected_Nuggets for real, people like them really give the community a crappy look
@@SoggyWetCheese Why are Persona fans such tourists?
I need that different version of the opening song as an mp3 or something, Yumi Kawamura is awesome
A lot of what you saw it's typical stuff for development, for example the usage of those models and portraits of Persona 3 and 4 plus Catherine, when you don't have everything done, you just fill with stuff you have around if you are not going to show it to the public and it's just internal stuff. So for the next time, just ignore that kind of stuff and focus more on stuff like that new animations, that Sae palace was bigger, etc. You know the kind of stuff i mean.
I hear ya but this video was meant to go over all the findings in the beta even the placeholders I also just think it's cool that they did that. But thanks for looking out!
@@Neglected_Nuggets Okay, i didn't know, i was more worry about people maybe thinking that this was suppose to be like a big Persona crossover at one point, because the developers played around with P4 protags model in the beginnings of development to get the looks right, etc.
@@micah0000 How much do you want to bet that, they not ever even you for the remakes, maybe for the dancing all night games, but i wouldn't put much stock into that, my best bet, they grab the old PS2 models played a bit in upgrading then and get the look they wanted and then proceed to use them for testing.
@@micah0000 Believe it or not, is cheaper to upgrade old stuff then wasting money on newers models, that if you don't know what you are doing or looking for, you may end up wasting more money on the newer models because you want to upgrade then. So they upgrade older models to have they look they wanted, then when they had everything on a level they through acceptable, created newer models for the game.
Cutting corners is important in any game development.
@@micah0000 No, again, you port assets from old games and give them a small upgrade, that's cheaper because you don't have to create the model from zero. As for why multiples, well, tell me do all the models look the same in P5? No, so you want to test the multiple kind of builds you will go for.
8:24 this area is actually still in the files for the original game. At least in the PS3 non-Royal version
5:17 Is it just me or these portraits actually looks like the anime adaptation design?
6:32 I think this is the shot where they forced her to take drug.
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That little animation for the metaverse app, i want it!
Someone needs to mod in that day change effect. You know, for those that partake.
Wasn’t Catherine originally supposed to be a test for The PS3 as research for its dev tools that spun off into an actual game?
Wait, there was going to be a female protagonist?
And she has _red_ hair?
I guess P5 FemC walked so Kasumi could dance.
Originally sumire was supposed to be a mc or female but they completely changed her
I’d rather she had been FeMC so she could be contained to her own route instead of forcing her way into Joker’s.
Also cut FeMC resembles Sho Minazuki fron P4AU as well
@@TREVORVADER I like her character already I just wish she join a bit earlier she only joins at the final palace ik it’s pretty much about her
@@akai3974 I’m not much a fan of her personally. She’s just kind of annoying really.
@@TREVORVADER she isn’t my favorite but I see her compared to rise from p4 and Ann is my favorite in p5 interms of female characters but Makoto is another option I can never really choose
this "safety room evolution" image legit looks like some youtube video thumbnail
"Holy shit guys, holy shit, holy shit, holy fucking shit" -Is prolly the best yt intro I have ever heard.
hell yeah I absolutely adore unused/cut content left over or leaked out for us to dissect! I appreciate you putting full sprite pages for even the calendars and sharing placeholders too lol idc I wanna see it ALL! Take my sub dawg
Catherine full body was the prototype I think or something for persona five so I’m not surprised that there’s some Catherine stuff still in the files
this feels like a lost episode
literally made me sad that they didn't include hifumi as a member of the Phantom thieves. I don't mind extra hours in the game.
Hifumi herself wasn't meant to be a phantom thief, the party member would've been like Hifumi, a strategist, but this ended up becoming a part of Makoto, meanwhile their appearance became Hifumi's
@@riv7797It still would've been cool to have two different kinds of strategist, especially since it fits with the Phantom Thieves' theme of butting heads like a *GREAT VALUE* Lupin's gang. Though it felt like they half-ditched the whole team roles thing by the time Noir joins.
No one can butcher Japanese names better than this guy.
this beta music is fireeeeee
8:22 holy shit I'm not crazy, even before I became a persona fan I vividly remember seeing that place but when I played it wasn't there it's been bothering me for years
The assets from P3, P4 and Catherine like characters, graphics or other things are placeholders.
I think we could guess the dev's favorite waifus from past games
In the old version of the op, it doesn’t really even sound like Lyn, it almost sounds like yumi?
It _is_ Yumi Kawamura. They probably hadn't finished casting a vocalist, and got Yumi to do a placeholder while they were still writing the lyrics. You should look up the beta version of Burn My Dread, it went through a similar process, and it sounds kinda cool.
Dang, we truly needed that Nanako to see how she has been grown up into fine teen. Our best girl doesn't deserved stuck with being a slave of JUNE (Just incase someone doesn't know, there is too many fans meme about Nanako being depressed overworking inside JUNE lol.)
You should play P5 Strikers if you haven't. There's a couple of characters so similar to the Dojima family, they must've been a compromise in lieu of getting permission to actually use those two.
Holy shit that’s the Persona 3 singer ain’t it 🔥
Damnit, I've been thinking for a long time that they should bring back Nanako in adult form! They should have done it!
The bongos make the sound more full
that makoto pic is insane
6:53 Yet no Shido calling card!!! I wonder that's the case???