I was writing about this in an essay when I discovered a company had run a very similar event to this with a very similar reaction and it was a couple of years BEFORE this. Also, two years on, this is the present!
I think this is a chilling cautionary tale. The future could be a terrible place. We all have a responsibility to understand that and do what we can to prevent the worst.
Future? this is possible right now. Humans and AI, well any biological race and AI, is a bad combination. Hell its even in NASA's alien contact book, where its most likely we'll either receive signals or messages from an AI civilisation that wiped out their biological creators. (and so begs the question if we should answer a message at all from outer space should we receive one)
This specific scenario may seem a bit outlandish, but it's just one of a huge range of possible autonomous weapons scenarios, any of which could be an enormous problem. People will probably get hung up on the details here, but the point is that AI has the potential to dramatically reduce the cost and risk of waging war, and that's a bad thing if you value peace.
This scenario doesn't seem outlandish. I've seen other short films about autonomous weapons or the dangers of using machines to kill people, but they always had shit like human-looking androids or technology that seems far ahead of our current capabilities. These little suicide-bombing drones seem like something that could be manufactured within the next 15-20 years if not sooner.
@bbm morgan >These little suicide-bombing drones seem like something that could be manufactured within the next 15-20 years if not sooner 100% sooner. 15 years seems like way too much time for something like this, it's basically technology that we already have, and I'm fairly certain everything that is shown in the video could be done today with a relatively small investment in some R&D, nothing even a moderately wealthy individual, or a small nation couldn't do right now.
To be clear I don't think the technology is implausible at all, it's more the way the scenario plays out, with only one new system being developed and then immediately being very widely deployed, without other technologies coming out at the same time, etc. Naturally the video has to focus on a single thing to make a decent story, but I'd expect the real thing to involve a lot of different new technologies interacting with each other in confusing and unpredictable ways.
@Robert Miles Oh I agree. Love your videos by the way, I always find myself agreeing with you on basically everything you say, and I always recommend your channel when the topic of AI comes up.
@@rsbah People are now getting killed by autonomous drones in Ukraine right now. Many are still remote operated, but remote operators keep getting jammed, so some are now autonomous.
So if it's so cheap & easy to anti EMP everything, why don't we do that now for our critical infrastructure?! Why does the Gov't want people to suffer in the event of even an accidental or natural EMP event? I realize that the movie is fiction.
The Great Emu: No there isn't. The only known way to insulate circuits from EMP is by constructing a faraday cage around them. Which means added mass... Which means: flight capabilities of any craft will be reduced. It would violate the laws of physics building small, flying drones like these while also making their circuits safe from EMP. And if that wasn't enough: there's grounding to consider.
With the modern capabilities of drones, I'm actually not so sure this is out of the possibility, it seems like these drones could actually exist soon. In the words of Peter Griffin, "Aw sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension."
This reminds me of the idea of autonomous vehicles. Once they’re all integrated into a network, it’s essentially a killing machine. Whoever runs the network can decide if they want to kill person x riding in their car on the way to work. Imagine if a hacker got into the network, or if the companies in charge had agendas, and could kill key heads of competitors. The future is dangerous, we need to venture cautiously
Tesla literally already has this. Their telemetry system is always on and connected to tesla master. So they could send a command to your car to ap off a cliff or something
I was sent a small part of this video (up to shortly after the mannequin demonstration) with a "PlayGround" logo through WhatsApp and I totallly bought it (I thought it was an actual presentation). I feel a little ashamed because some details (such as the stereotypically movie-like drone camera interface) should have revealed to me that it was not. But stil... wow. I got scared. Very well done.
Vercusgames. No it won't. Please don't speak of topics you have little practical knowledge of, Mr. "Network Security"-guy. These drones are pathetic. Any normal person with a shotgun would be able to deal with such drones easily. We've been using birdshot to successfully shoot and kill small flying creatures for hundreds of years. These drones don't have anything on birds when it comes to flight.
Vercusgames: Well lucky for the human with a shotgun then that these drones actually move TOWARDS him rather than trying to flee away from him like the birds which you normally use birdshot on.
I'd say those shown in black mirror are more advanced. That in the video here is much closer. Further still would be machines so small that they would only be visible to the naked eye in large groups, as clouds. This grey goo of nanomachines was depicted in the 2008 version of 'The Day the Earth Stood Still', it's a good example.
It's a regular SF theme and it has already been in COD any gamer knows this scenario, this vid is for the people how are completely oblivious to the possibilities of future tech. In this case I guess it's more technophobia, but it's a valid point, new, smart weapons are a thing, a frightening thing that is.
Frantz Felix: Yes it is propaganda. At least the suggested "dangers" fro weak, fragile "explosive drones" that can easily be countered by your average shotgunblast... Or even a butterfly net.
Unless something crazy happens with range and battery life, such drones will still have to be planted in advance near to the target location. They don't come out of nowhere, so the real culprit behind them (or lackeys) will still have to show up nearby at some point or other. Rather than completely being remotely deployed, it's more like a temporarily roving minefield that's activated by a cell-phone call. If something like this ever happens for real, don't be too surprised if it's an excuse for the surveillance state to go into overdrive, as that would seem to be the most obvious counter. (Of course some other ways of dealing with it will be as simple as shotguns, nets, and bolas, while others may as fancy be sentry weapons or things like narrow-beam microwave emitters that can fry electronics.)
I mean, did you see the truck they showed? And those carrier drones? They just have to be within like, a mile, and then they can send out the carriers, the carriers bring them to the target, and then the horrible thing happens.
@@heronlord228 fire proof drones or at least drones that can survive fire longeuth to get to you remember its AI all it need to do is live long euth to take you out its just a numbers game
If someone has the resources to build and distribute 100's of these things to kill me, they also have the resources to build a simple bomb, run over me with a truck, or shoot me with a handgun much more cheaply. And, if I knew that someone was trying to kill me, I'd probably have at least as good of recourse in thwarting an AI attacker as I would someone attacking me by more conventional means. For example, you could functionally kill one of these with a can of spray paint, or by messing with its recognition software. To the extent you can protect yourself from someone willing to do anything to kill you, it's no harder to protect yourself from this than any other committed assault on your person. If you can figure out how to send drones after me, you can put a bomb under my car or throw one threw the window of my house etc. etc.
It is not that someone has the resources to build 100's just to kill you, is that some companies can build millions of these that will become as cheaper, so purchasing a 100's will not be so difficult.
Its not about you as an individiual. Its about groups and profiles. You happen to be part of some movement or just be at the wrong time and at the wrong place or you fit the profile. You think GMO Food is bad and want to garden your own food instead? Well, maybe killer drones sponsored by Monsanto will eventually hunt you and every other food grower down, because growing your own food poses a danger to the GMO monsanto fields and/or you violated patents. (The pollen from your plant could ruin the GMO fields and/or the pollen from the GMO fields could combine with your plants and then you violate patent rights of Monsanto)
Offensive and defensive technology develops simultaneously. Sometimes one side is ahead (the shaped charge) and then the other side will be given more focus and catch up (sloped armor). A lot of resources are going into research and development of anti-drone technology as we speak. There are both soft-kill measures, where you disrupt the sensors or electronics, or hard-kill measures like the active protection systems being developed for the new generation of main battle tanks (using millimeter-wavelength radar to intercept incoming threats with an explosive charge or similar). Laser systems are also being developed. And once you do have these swarms of autonomous terrorist drones, there will be anti-drone drones as well. You really only need to instruct them to fly into other drones fast. In fact, if you like science fiction, you could just as easy have a screen in this video reporting "Unauthorized drone swarm detected" and a terminally guided filament projectile arriving in seconds (dropped from a high altitude guardian drone), spraying the swarm with a cluster of proximity-fused synthetic fibre charges, entangling rotorblades and dropping the drones to the ground like dead birds falling from the sky. Yes, a terrorist attack with weaponized drones against unarmed civilians is horrific, but the same goes for any weapon in our history.
Agreed. And which is scarier, a bunch of armed drones or a truck bomb with materials that cost the same as the swarm of armed drones? Only one of the two are you likely to be able to thwart with a can of spray paint, a fire extinguisher, a ski mask, or a motorcycle helmet. The thing about weapons like this is that they almost always turn out to be pound for pound less effective at generating casualties than high explosives.
Defensive technologies are a joke at this point. Where is the defence against a guy shoting at you? There is no defence against a terroist attack. It is very important that you can at least find the criminals afterwards and THAT is the big problem here: The drone doesnt tell you who sent it.
No, they are not. Of course the average civilian will not wear a ballistic vest or sit in an armored car, but the technology is there. There are numerous ways you can defend yourself against a terrorist attack, both as a nation and as an individual. Having a foreign policy that is more interested in long term reduction of poverty and corruption overseas than in short term economic benefits by supporting anti-democratic regimes would be one thing. And if swarms of terrorist drones becomes a problem, you bet they will be tracked and traced. They have a radar signature, they have an IR-signature, they are communicating, using GPS, they make a noise etc. You could have surveillance drones looking for them, you could have sensor arrays spread out over a city or mounted on vehicles and so forth. The intention behind this video is good of course, but this is propaganda made to scare you. Mission accomplished.
Of corse there are a lot of indirect measures, if there are less conflicts or less terrorirts, there will be less attacks. But try to see this from the perspektive of an assasin for a moment: You dont want to get shot, so you use a bomb. If someone finds you placing the bomb or the bomb is found too early, your plan fails. This is very likely if the place is known to be a terrorist target. A drone doesnt need a high range to be more useful here. Have you ever tried to shoot a super small and fast object that is flying through a crowd? Countermesures are not as simple as you describe them.
Once this technology becomes available, "the AI" and high level facial recognition, and drone advancements, I don't see any reason this could be stopped. If not one country, then another. You cannot stop weapons progress. You can only adapt to it. AI must be used to beat AI. There is no other way, saying "Oh, ya, use one bad thing to fight another. Good idea (sarcasm)" is really dumb in itself because if you haven't noticed from clubs, to steel swords, to cavalry, to cannons to tanks and nuclear weapons, only the equal advance of technology stops one people's from conquering another. If Russia did not have Nuclear weapons during the cold war, they'd have just crumbled into submission.
Yeah, I made a similar point up the comments. The problem with these kinds of technologies is that the precursors have already been "democratized" such that virtually anyone could work on such capability. What's needed? A shop, an alibaba account, a 3d printer? A UN ban on such weapons cannot address non-state actors at all.
1:23 explosion coming from inside the head...Well I'd say, until I don't implant explosives in my head which will be triggered by drones buzzing into my face, I'm safe...
I think they can be reprogrammed to go for the chest or spinal cord. Yeah, that size a charge would be easy to defeat on the forehead, but there are other means of attack.
I can think of a counter for this system, no matter how fast the drone, you can't dodge light. Laser point defence would wind up a far too common sight, targeting the distinct whirring of a small drone's helicopter blades. Unfortunately, there goes flying drones as hobby, or using them for civilian purposes.
But then there's the problem of eye damage, and the problem of smoke grenades; who's to say drones won't just target ID someone, and then pop a smoke bomb and navigate by radar, or sound?
That just tells you this has officially begun. It just hasn't gone mainstream yet. You know when traditional non-state actors acquire the means to do so. The nation-state will officially be over. So I guess civilians better start preparing.
Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
Dreadnought: Yes. We need more gothic, mega-cathedral like structures, decorated with cyber cherubs and skulls in the skyline of our cities. That would be cool. :)
Don't think that ban of lethal autonomous weapon necessarily means it won't be used illegally. Should be the same approach as for other kind of weapon.
I recently read Max Tegmark's new book "Life 3.0" and have read others by Ray Kurzweil and other physicists and engineers that touch on this subject. As a result I know that everything in this film is accurate and disturbingly likely. I don't believe those who are never content with the amount of power and wealth they have will refrain from developing this technology, especially because in their ignorance and arrogance they will mistakenly believe they will be able to control it once they have it. As such, I don't think the efforts to restrict and guide the development of AI will be successful in keeping us safe from the dark side of strong AI.
Or simply wear a multi-layer kevlar helmet with replaceable external reactive armor elements (like those "bricks" you see on the outsides of the turret and hull of a tank, but on a much smaller size scale).
blunderbuss999 you are overthinking. You don’t have to defeat the bullet. You defeat the delivery system. A net of regular monofilament snags the drones. The can be placed strategically or deployed when you realize what’s going on. Got to have the netting first though. Any way, they deploy a couple hundred bots, your armor is toast after a few hits.
The point is, this is complete fear-mongering claptrap... the effective range of these jokeDrones would be a FEW HUNDRED YARDS on a day with a light breeze, as the battery life of such a small drone would be minutes... a scoped 30-06 rifle would be much more effective, and would leave less of a trace back to the initiator of the attack (just pick up your brass, which Oswald didn't)... and who is the "They" boogiemen you mention? Look, the "tiny attack drone" scenarios presented in the Berkeley propaganda film are nonsense, from so many angles. And why don't they just KEEP THE DOORS TO THE LECTURE HALLS CLOSED, so the 5-minute charges on the puny drones' batteries run out?!
>_> shape charges means there are no such things as closed doors. Jammers only work for preventing changes in their Battleplan, doesnt stop them from pursing their originally given directives. Nets have to anchored somewhere. Batteries are leaping ahead, so todays 5 min limit will be hours soon, and quite frankly you only need a couple minutes for it to fly to its target and pop. Only real weakness's I see is the eyes, there are several types of sensor jamming gasses that you can make cheapish, but most are VERY bad to breath. Infrared sensors would be a pain, but there are alot of IR neutral cloaks out on the market, so thats doable, just not for the average civilian. The only real protection I can think of would be personal Defense drones that buzz around you all day, and can intercept and destroy enemy attack drones.
I have a very easy solution for this problem. Its called EMP weapons, Electro Magnetic Pulse weapons would destroy these robots and they would literaly drop like dead bugs.
Yeah, and everything else we hold dear, like, everything! Then remember how easy it is to build a faraday cage and the necessary internal discharge and protection circuits and all of a sudden the one thing you had to defend yourself was absolutely useless!
Guy shows you a tiny high speed device and points out the short battery life. You respond with a link to a massive very slow moving aircraft as if this was some sort or rebuttal. If they put enough solar panels on one of those things to power it, it wouldn't be able to lift off the ground.
LMAO!!! Google: "Solar powered drones", plenty of companies are making them, Aurora is one of them BTW. You think Li-Ion batteries that retail drones use are state of the art? You don't think Darpa has access to better batteries? What about Li-po, half the weight? Google: "Lithium Sulfur batteries", half the weight 3 times the power of Li-Ion Google: "Silver-Zinc Batteries", 40% greater energy efficiency than any type of Lithium battery. Since the drone is only making a one way trip, why even bother with a rechargeable battery anyway, Zinc-air have the highest power to weight ratio around... Do my research huh? OK, right LOL! Maybe before you say something you do YOUR research LOL! Maybe you before you hit the "post" button you check your spelling too...
Now this is a MUCH more realistic doomsday scenario than all this rogue-AI/Terminator business people go on about. Heck, the killer drone-bot conference you had at the beginning, I wouldn't be surprised if it had come up on my feed today as a real thing. Thanks for being more level-headed and concrete than those who just go, "Oo, machine-learning is scary!" So... now that it's been properly articulated what the danger is, what are we going to do about this? Holding up signs didn't put an end to the Vietnam War, we need something more effective.
or a localized personal emp device that goes off in the event of something like this, or some sort of static shield around yourself that fry any electronics that's always on and cant be penetrated.
Unlike drones, facial recognition and shape charges, practical EMP weapons aren't a real thing. If something like that existed it would already be incredibly useful and a common tool for law enforcement, for example to stop cars with computer controlled fuel injectors, which is basically all cars now.
At the time this video was made the situation wasn't hopeless. The world ban on chemical weapons in war had been more successful than not (still is), and we hadn't (still haven't) used nukes again, yet, and at the time this was made, 7 years ago, the autonomous drone tech was still fiction. But now big versions are being used in Ukraine, to defeat remote jamming so . . . ya, we are screwed.
Really well done video. Now I am working on my personal protection directed EMP. Living in the future is usually really fun, but sometimes it's scary, too.
Short list of countermeasures against slaughterbots: GPS jammer kills localisation 2,4GHz jammer kills communications Grilles @windows blocks intruding Heavy wind blower repealls minidrones Small kevlar helmet protect from C4 gun Face hiding glasses blocks recognition
Pol Bct well from the looks of it, mosquito netting could be the front line of defense and last line of defense could be a team of tennis players .....:-)
I am so glad we have "good guys" like this in our world. Where would we be without sociopaths dreaming up and profiting from ever more elaborate methods of killing each other?
What you need to start doing, is to think. Stop trusting just everyone. Stop trusting just any information. When you see a blockbuster movie think before you buy the ticket - where is your money going to be spent? Spend it where you know it´s going to be safe to spend it. Don´t just spend it on Infowars products, etc.
Gianni Too late. The solution is change the way people view each other & interact. Focus more on collaboration. Reduce the desire to fight. Make satisfying other desires easier.
Its to late.. its already here. We have stuff that the general public would find hard to conceptualize. Synthetic Telepathy... V2K.. Non lethal DEW's can torture you in your home right now.. mix this with god knows what else and we have some life changing technology.. or should I say life destroying. ruclips.net/video/8spm-qZesoA/видео.html
It's what's happening in Kerson - Ukraine, no AI, though, but Russian on the other side of the river are using drones every-days to throw grenades on the population, now everyone in Kerson is scare to get out just to buy food.
They have started using drones that can function after their remote connection with the operator has ended. They can kill. Now the only thing left is the miniaturization and the predictions in the video will have come to pass. :-(
"They can not be stopped".
*everyone applauds*
Checking in here, 4 years later as this type of technology continues to rush at breakneck pace to be developed.
I was writing about this in an essay when I discovered a company had run a very similar event to this with a very similar reaction and it was a couple of years BEFORE this. Also, two years on, this is the present!
That moment when a short University video is a better Robocop remake than the official Robocop remake
American govt doesn't want us to be scared of this, it will make us anti-military.
Manny S: How the heck this have anything to do with my comment?
+Manobaru Just saying most movies like Robocop aren't good for a reason
Manny S: The first Robocop from 1987 is a great film.
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I think this is a chilling cautionary tale. The future could be a terrible place. We all have a responsibility to understand that and do what we can to prevent the worst.
Future? this is possible right now.
Humans and AI, well any biological race and AI, is a bad combination.
Hell its even in NASA's alien contact book, where its most likely we'll either receive signals or messages from an AI civilisation that wiped out their biological creators. (and so begs the question if we should answer a message at all from outer space should we receive one)
SinuousGrace - Hummm. A future tale? Not sure about that. DARPA has put out videos with these little monsters already.
The way to prevent it, so to not build them in the first place. But that's too simple and makes too much sense.
Why would I want to "prevent" such neat technology?
We would want to "prevent" the worst of the outcomes that prove deadly and/or destructive to the fabric of society.
This specific scenario may seem a bit outlandish, but it's just one of a huge range of possible autonomous weapons scenarios, any of which could be an enormous problem.
People will probably get hung up on the details here, but the point is that AI has the potential to dramatically reduce the cost and risk of waging war, and that's a bad thing if you value peace.
This scenario doesn't seem outlandish. I've seen other short films about autonomous weapons or the dangers of using machines to kill people, but they always had shit like human-looking androids or technology that seems far ahead of our current capabilities.
These little suicide-bombing drones seem like something that could be manufactured within the next 15-20 years if not sooner.
I mean terrorists are already using drones to drop grenades. I think the bigger take away is that one person has an unquestioning army.
@bbm morgan
>These little suicide-bombing drones seem like something that could be manufactured within the next 15-20 years if not sooner
100% sooner. 15 years seems like way too much time for something like this, it's basically technology that we already have, and I'm fairly certain everything that is shown in the video could be done today with a relatively small investment in some R&D, nothing even a moderately wealthy individual, or a small nation couldn't do right now.
To be clear I don't think the technology is implausible at all, it's more the way the scenario plays out, with only one new system being developed and then immediately being very widely deployed, without other technologies coming out at the same time, etc. Naturally the video has to focus on a single thing to make a decent story, but I'd expect the real thing to involve a lot of different new technologies interacting with each other in confusing and unpredictable ways.
@Robert Miles Oh I agree.
Love your videos by the way, I always find myself agreeing with you on basically everything you say, and I always recommend your channel when the topic of AI comes up.
I wish you guys knew how much a reality this is in 2024.
Eh, the only thing that's coming out of "AI" today is just a lot of silly art and porn 😂
So when are they gonna remove Taliban?
@@rsbah People are now getting killed by autonomous drones in Ukraine right now. Many are still remote operated, but remote operators keep getting jammed, so some are now autonomous.
I want to sign this petition, but this will literally put me on a kill-list in the near future.
U reakon?
Fear rules?
"The price for freedom has always been high." ~Capt America
So does this comment
Roko's basilisk
If it gets to this point it's probably time to just EMP everything.
There is already material that are immune to Electro Magnetic Pulse better stick with the butterfly net
he would just use his hat to close face, but a bit stupid.
where he would get EMP though?
Too expesive to shield drones which are single use popguns. That said emp weapons are not very easy to use or common.
So if it's so cheap & easy to anti EMP everything, why don't we do that now for our critical infrastructure?! Why does the Gov't want people to suffer in the event of even an accidental or natural EMP event? I realize that the movie is fiction.
The Great Emu: No there isn't.
The only known way to insulate circuits from EMP is by constructing a faraday cage around them.
Which means added mass... Which means: flight capabilities of any craft will be reduced.
It would violate the laws of physics building small, flying drones like these while also making their circuits safe from EMP.
And if that wasn't enough: there's grounding to consider.
With the modern capabilities of drones, I'm actually not so sure this is out of the possibility, it seems like these drones could actually exist soon. In the words of Peter Griffin, "Aw sweet, man made horrors beyond my comprehension."
General Turgidson spoke on the subject to say, "Mister President, we must not allow a slaughterbot gap!"
HA!! this is exactly like a Black Mirror episode.
The last episode of the last season is exactly this
The killers beeeeeeeees.
Except they use that show to prepare you for the day it comes especially with BILL GATES microchips
@@user-sd4ks4eb3h what about Steve Jobs and his Apple microchips
haha?
Just watched this and it scared the hell out of me....especially the ending message
This should be a full-length movie.
The reason no one has done it is because no one can come up with a plausible third act in which the humans win.
This reminds me of the idea of autonomous vehicles. Once they’re all integrated into a network, it’s essentially a killing machine. Whoever runs the network can decide if they want to kill person x riding in their car on the way to work. Imagine if a hacker got into the network, or if the companies in charge had agendas, and could kill key heads of competitors. The future is dangerous, we need to venture cautiously
Skynet
Tesla literally already has this. Their telemetry system is always on and connected to tesla master. So they could send a command to your car to ap off a cliff or something
@@tonimorton Tesla is run by idiots. They could not program that even if they wanted to
I was sent a small part of this video (up to shortly after the mannequin demonstration) with a "PlayGround" logo through WhatsApp and I totallly bought it (I thought it was an actual presentation). I feel a little ashamed because some details (such as the stereotypically movie-like drone camera interface) should have revealed to me that it was not. But stil... wow. I got scared.
Very well done.
There should never come a point where a human being is taken out of the loop.
Q: Who determines which people are Bad guys? Do you really trust the media hype on "our" enemies?
We're in deep shit when we find out we're our own worst enemy and accidentally send the bots after ourselves.
This is terrifying.
Jay Joyce I agree , get me out of here
Vercusgames. No it won't. Please don't speak of topics you have little practical knowledge of, Mr. "Network Security"-guy.
These drones are pathetic. Any normal person with a shotgun would be able to deal with such drones easily. We've been using birdshot to successfully shoot and kill small flying creatures for hundreds of years. These drones don't have anything on birds when it comes to flight.
Vercusgames: Well lucky for the human with a shotgun then that these drones actually move TOWARDS him rather than trying to flee away from him like the birds which you normally use birdshot on.
Black Mirror?
It's very much like the concept of what happens in season 3's "Hated in the Nation".
tbh I'm more afraid of the future the second episode of the first season is showing.
some things are worse than death.
I'd say those shown in black mirror are more advanced. That in the video here is much closer. Further still would be machines so small that they would only be visible to the naked eye in large groups, as clouds. This grey goo of nanomachines was depicted in the 2008 version of 'The Day the Earth Stood Still', it's a good example.
open ur mind, theres a world out there black mirror they are called books, that serie just took many storied from science fiction
It's a regular SF theme and it has already been in COD any gamer knows this scenario, this vid is for the people how are completely oblivious to the possibilities of future tech. In this case I guess it's more technophobia, but it's a valid point, new, smart weapons are a thing, a frightening thing that is.
That's an exceptionally well done movie. Scared the bajesus outta me!
fuck yeah me too :D
Josh L This is reality item. Soros's money paid for this propaganda
Didn't scare me at all.
Just get yourself a shotgun.
Frantz Felix: Yes it is propaganda. At least the suggested "dangers" fro weak, fragile "explosive drones" that can easily be countered by your average shotgunblast... Or even a butterfly net.
@@sevenproxies4255 You have a 12ver that holds 90 or 490 rounds? Or more?
One can imagine how it could go horribly wrong.
Here’s how I see it. In an ideal world the drones would be used for medical supplies and as cover fire, not a lethal force offensive weapon.
It's gonna happen. If it hasn't already.
Wow, really?
swastikas are always subtle 3:03
jim ewok
really
Good catch.
i got bionic vision
You're one of those lil' drones, aren't you, jim?
i'd rather not say at this time
Unless something crazy happens with range and battery life, such drones will still have to be planted in advance near to the target location. They don't come out of nowhere, so the real culprit behind them (or lackeys) will still have to show up nearby at some point or other. Rather than completely being remotely deployed, it's more like a temporarily roving minefield that's activated by a cell-phone call.
If something like this ever happens for real, don't be too surprised if it's an excuse for the surveillance state to go into overdrive, as that would seem to be the most obvious counter. (Of course some other ways of dealing with it will be as simple as shotguns, nets, and bolas, while others may as fancy be sentry weapons or things like narrow-beam microwave emitters that can fry electronics.)
I mean, did you see the truck they showed? And those carrier drones? They just have to be within like, a mile, and then they can send out the carriers, the carriers bring them to the target, and then the horrible thing happens.
@@nosidenoside2458 Or the good thing. Depending on what content is removed.
Deodorant Can plus windproof lighter - A cheap and somewhat effective solution in a pinch. Upgrade to hairspray for swarms.
You know what, flamethrowers may actually work.... hmmmmm. I like.
@@heronlord228 fire proof drones or at least drones that can survive fire longeuth to get to you remember its AI all it need to do is live long euth to take you out its just a numbers game
Just give me a helmet and a butterfly net.
Jacques Lavoie i'm with you 😂
TomeOfBattle 2 butterfly nets?
If someone has the resources to build and distribute 100's of these things to kill me, they also have the resources to build a simple bomb, run over me with a truck, or shoot me with a handgun much more cheaply. And, if I knew that someone was trying to kill me, I'd probably have at least as good of recourse in thwarting an AI attacker as I would someone attacking me by more conventional means. For example, you could functionally kill one of these with a can of spray paint, or by messing with its recognition software. To the extent you can protect yourself from someone willing to do anything to kill you, it's no harder to protect yourself from this than any other committed assault on your person. If you can figure out how to send drones after me, you can put a bomb under my car or throw one threw the window of my house etc. etc.
It is not that someone has the resources to build 100's just to kill you, is that some companies can build millions of these that will become as cheaper, so purchasing a 100's will not be so difficult.
Its not about you as an individiual. Its about groups and profiles. You happen to be part of some movement or just be at the wrong time and at the wrong place or you fit the profile. You think GMO Food is bad and want to garden your own food instead? Well, maybe killer drones sponsored by Monsanto will eventually hunt you and every other food grower down, because growing your own food poses a danger to the GMO monsanto fields and/or you violated patents. (The pollen from your plant could ruin the GMO fields and/or the pollen from the GMO fields could combine with your plants and then you violate patent rights of Monsanto)
If we can think it, it will eventually happen.
We have to go back in time to erase Skynet...
The genie is already out of the bottle. The thing we must do is develop countermeasures.
"... The bad half."
It would be interesting to see the line up outside of Best Buy to purchase the latest Slaughterbot
Now who gets to decide WHO are the “bad guys”?
The saying double edged sword immediately springs to mind. The weapon can be used to harm the makers.
Offensive and defensive technology develops simultaneously. Sometimes one side is ahead (the shaped charge) and then the other side will be given more focus and catch up (sloped armor). A lot of resources are going into research and development of anti-drone technology as we speak. There are both soft-kill measures, where you disrupt the sensors or electronics, or hard-kill measures like the active protection systems being developed for the new generation of main battle tanks (using millimeter-wavelength radar to intercept incoming threats with an explosive charge or similar). Laser systems are also being developed. And once you do have these swarms of autonomous terrorist drones, there will be anti-drone drones as well. You really only need to instruct them to fly into other drones fast. In fact, if you like science fiction, you could just as easy have a screen in this video reporting "Unauthorized drone swarm detected" and a terminally guided filament projectile arriving in seconds (dropped from a high altitude guardian drone), spraying the swarm with a cluster of proximity-fused synthetic fibre charges, entangling rotorblades and dropping the drones to the ground like dead birds falling from the sky. Yes, a terrorist attack with weaponized drones against unarmed civilians is horrific, but the same goes for any weapon in our history.
Agreed. And which is scarier, a bunch of armed drones or a truck bomb with materials that cost the same as the swarm of armed drones? Only one of the two are you likely to be able to thwart with a can of spray paint, a fire extinguisher, a ski mask, or a motorcycle helmet. The thing about weapons like this is that they almost always turn out to be pound for pound less effective at generating casualties than high explosives.
Defensive technologies are a joke at this point. Where is the defence against a guy shoting at you? There is no defence against a terroist attack.
It is very important that you can at least find the criminals afterwards and THAT is the big problem here:
The drone doesnt tell you who sent it.
No, they are not. Of course the average civilian will not wear a ballistic vest or sit in an armored car, but the technology is there. There are numerous ways you can defend yourself against a terrorist attack, both as a nation and as an individual. Having a foreign policy that is more interested in long term reduction of poverty and corruption overseas than in short term economic benefits by supporting anti-democratic regimes would be one thing. And if swarms of terrorist drones becomes a problem, you bet they will be tracked and traced. They have a radar signature, they have an IR-signature, they are communicating, using GPS, they make a noise etc. You could have surveillance drones looking for them, you could have sensor arrays spread out over a city or mounted on vehicles and so forth. The intention behind this video is good of course, but this is propaganda made to scare you. Mission accomplished.
Of corse there are a lot of indirect measures, if there are less conflicts or less terrorirts, there will be less attacks.
But try to see this from the perspektive of an assasin for a moment: You dont want to get shot, so you use a bomb. If someone finds you placing the bomb or the bomb is found too early, your plan fails. This is very likely if the place is known to be a terrorist target.
A drone doesnt need a high range to be more useful here.
Have you ever tried to shoot a super small and fast object that is flying through a crowd?
Countermesures are not as simple as you describe them.
And it also want to mention that a drone doesn't need any comunication, especialy if there is no specific target.
Just cover the with a fishing net and you stop any drone.
"That is enough to penetrate the skull and destroy the contents" 😂 turns out the contents was a bag of gummi bears 🐻
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It's not outlandish this seems perfectly doable with current technology and for SURE in the next decade.
Once this technology becomes available, "the AI" and high level facial recognition, and drone advancements, I don't see any reason this could be stopped.
If not one country, then another. You cannot stop weapons progress. You can only adapt to it.
AI must be used to beat AI. There is no other way, saying "Oh, ya, use one bad thing to fight another. Good idea (sarcasm)" is really dumb in itself because if you haven't noticed from clubs, to steel swords, to cavalry, to cannons to tanks and nuclear weapons, only the equal advance of technology stops one people's from conquering another. If Russia did not have Nuclear weapons during the cold war, they'd have just crumbled into submission.
Yeah, I made a similar point up the comments. The problem with these kinds of technologies is that the precursors have already been "democratized" such that virtually anyone could work on such capability. What's needed? A shop, an alibaba account, a 3d printer? A UN ban on such weapons cannot address non-state actors at all.
All the tech you see here is technically already available.
Look OUTSIDE THE BOX - Countries, Terrorists, Us versus Them, It will all be language of the past.
So WHO DECIDES which half of the city is bad or good? No thank you, I will fight this tech.
"lol, GPS satellites? Unmanned drones? FOOKING LASER SIGHTS? The more crutches you have, the more it hurts when they're kicked out from under ya"
if those drones become real everyone is gonna need a portable EMP like tatcher's
The drones dont "need" gps they can be designed without it. Those "crutches" are the future of war.
..and if your enemy gets hold of "one of them" then we're all in serious trouble.
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"Do You Trust This Computer?" Brought me here.
Better stock up on badmitten rackets. Or walk around with a chicken wire bubble around you.lol
Congratulations humanity! You took this as a template, not a warning. Great job.
1:23 explosion coming from inside the head...Well I'd say, until I don't implant explosives in my head which will be triggered by drones buzzing into my face, I'm safe...
please make a TV series out of this premise
This could definitely happen. Terrifying to think about.
They already have the tech.
Sheckley foretold this in his story "Watchbird" (1953).
„That is enough to penetrate the skull and destroy the contents.“ Ceramic and kevlar helmets:“Hold my beer“
I think they can be reprogrammed to go for the chest or spinal cord. Yeah, that size a charge would be easy to defeat on the forehead, but there are other means of attack.
The movie said shaped charge. They'll eventually fit them with enough power to defeat ballistic helmets.
"Simple solution, wear a helmet 24/7 for the rest of your life." Sure, especially in your house, because these can go anywhere.
It's already done. Iys a fine line 10 years ago
"They cannot be stopped"
(Puts on ballistic facemask)
Ai drone notices only one person wearing a facemask.
"Target acquired."
@@silverhawkscape2677 Exactly. It really simplifies the logic down to one factor. Thank you very much for the data.
Don't we already have guided missiles? Is it not the same principle, just more expensive?
I can think of a counter for this system, no matter how fast the drone, you can't dodge light.
Laser point defence would wind up a far too common sight, targeting the distinct whirring of a small drone's helicopter blades.
Unfortunately, there goes flying drones as hobby, or using them for civilian purposes.
But then there's the problem of eye damage, and the problem of smoke grenades; who's to say drones won't just target ID someone, and then pop a smoke bomb and navigate by radar, or sound?
Yeah but what if the enemies get ahold of them
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Anybody here after that Iranian scientist got killed by a “drone”?
That just tells you this has officially begun. It just hasn't gone mainstream yet. You know when traditional non-state actors acquire the means to do so. The nation-state will officially be over. So I guess civilians better start preparing.
Loitering drones were used widely in last year's Nagorno Karabach War to kill enemy soldiers.
Can you add option to create subtitles? I would like to add polish translation
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The Darleks would love this. Doctor Who .
How do you think signing anything is going to help? they already here and waiting, you were all warned it's now too late.
Forget the promise of progress and understanding, for in the grim dark future there is only war. There is no peace amongst the stars, only an eternity of carnage and slaughter, and the laughter of thirsting gods.
warhammer??
Brenden Harris yup :)
But warhammer has good aesthetics. Our aesthetics are fucking shit.
Dreadnought: Yes. We need more gothic, mega-cathedral like structures, decorated with cyber cherubs and skulls in the skyline of our cities. That would be cool. :)
Don't think that ban of lethal autonomous weapon necessarily means it won't be used illegally. Should be the same approach as for other kind of weapon.
I recently read Max Tegmark's new book "Life 3.0" and have read others by Ray Kurzweil and other physicists and engineers that touch on this subject. As a result I know that everything in this film is accurate and disturbingly likely. I don't believe those who are never content with the amount of power and wealth they have will refrain from developing this technology, especially because in their ignorance and arrogance they will mistakenly believe they will be able to control it once they have it. As such, I don't think the efforts to restrict and guide the development of AI will be successful in keeping us safe from the dark side of strong AI.
It's the dark side of the Fermi Paradox.
Just like the CIA lost control of their hacking arsenal. (google Vault 7)
You sir hit the nail on the head, I only wish more people were as logical as you.
Could we perhaps have a debate on this issue?
I'm always up for a good discussion, especially among people what got brains. :-0 Is there perhaps a better forum than this reply section?
"Autonomy" is the key here. Let's keep our eye on the ball.
Took me a bit to realise that it’s a movie lol
Not to take away from the gravity of the subject matter, but I immediately thought, “I simply MUST purchase a butterfly net.”
Or simply wear a multi-layer kevlar helmet with replaceable external reactive armor elements (like those "bricks" you see on the outsides of the turret and hull of a tank, but on a much smaller size scale).
blunderbuss999 you are overthinking. You don’t have to defeat the bullet. You defeat the delivery system. A net of regular monofilament snags the drones. The can be placed strategically or deployed when you realize what’s going on. Got to have the netting first though.
Any way, they deploy a couple hundred bots, your armor is toast after a few hits.
The point is, this is complete fear-mongering claptrap... the effective range of these jokeDrones would be a FEW HUNDRED YARDS on a day with a light breeze, as the battery life of such a small drone would be minutes... a scoped 30-06 rifle would be much more effective, and would leave less of a trace back to the initiator of the attack (just pick up your brass, which Oswald didn't)... and who is the "They" boogiemen you mention? Look, the "tiny attack drone" scenarios presented in the Berkeley propaganda film are nonsense, from so many angles.
And why don't they just KEEP THE DOORS TO THE LECTURE HALLS CLOSED, so the 5-minute charges on the puny drones' batteries run out?!
blunderbuss999 yeah I got all excited and started seeing terminators everywhere...
>_> shape charges means there are no such things as closed doors. Jammers only work for preventing changes in their Battleplan, doesnt stop them from pursing their originally given directives. Nets have to anchored somewhere. Batteries are leaping ahead, so todays 5 min limit will be hours soon, and quite frankly you only need a couple minutes for it to fly to its target and pop.
Only real weakness's I see is the eyes, there are several types of sensor jamming gasses that you can make cheapish, but most are VERY bad to breath. Infrared sensors would be a pain, but there are alot of IR neutral cloaks out on the market, so thats doable, just not for the average civilian.
The only real protection I can think of would be personal Defense drones that buzz around you all day, and can intercept and destroy enemy attack drones.
I have a very easy solution for this problem. Its called EMP weapons, Electro Magnetic Pulse weapons would destroy these robots and they would literaly drop like dead bugs.
Yeah, and everything else we hold dear, like, everything! Then remember how easy it is to build a faraday cage and the necessary internal discharge and protection circuits and all of a sudden the one thing you had to defend yourself was absolutely useless!
@@rosstomlinson8584 mate it is our overreliance on tech that will see the rise of such machines.
@@Marius89100 yup
the only emp weapon i'm aware of is a nuke lol.
Actually a simple fog would upset the laser targetting.
I think it can't be stopped. But you may design weapons against drones…
5 minute batery life 😂
www.aurora.aero/solar-aircraft/
Guy shows you a tiny high speed device and points out the short battery life. You respond with a link to a massive very slow moving aircraft as if this was some sort or rebuttal.
If they put enough solar panels on one of those things to power it, it wouldn't be able to lift off the ground.
Karen Audrey Todd maby before you say somting do your research
LMAO!!!
Google: "Solar powered drones", plenty of companies are making them, Aurora is one of them BTW.
You think Li-Ion batteries that retail drones use are state of the art? You don't think Darpa has access to better batteries? What about Li-po, half the weight?
Google: "Lithium Sulfur batteries", half the weight 3 times the power of Li-Ion
Google: "Silver-Zinc Batteries", 40% greater energy efficiency than any type of Lithium battery.
Since the drone is only making a one way trip, why even bother with a rechargeable battery anyway, Zinc-air have the highest power to weight ratio around...
Do my research huh? OK, right LOL!
Maybe before you say something you do YOUR research LOL!
Maybe you before you hit the "post" button you check your spelling too...
+Karen Audry Todd
Yes, do your reserch:
Aluminium-Air bateries have the highest energy density of all bateries xD, almost 10 times the one of lipo.
And who determines who is good or bad...
Now this is a MUCH more realistic doomsday scenario than all this rogue-AI/Terminator business people go on about. Heck, the killer drone-bot conference you had at the beginning, I wouldn't be surprised if it had come up on my feed today as a real thing. Thanks for being more level-headed and concrete than those who just go, "Oo, machine-learning is scary!"
So... now that it's been properly articulated what the danger is, what are we going to do about this? Holding up signs didn't put an end to the Vietnam War, we need something more effective.
WOW! This is the single most disconcerting media production I have ever seen! This is something every man woman and child on earth should see!
Countered by smaller faster ones that hunt other bots. Swarm vs. Swarm.
or a localized personal emp device that goes off in the event of something like this, or some sort of static shield around yourself that fry any electronics that's always on and cant be penetrated.
Ah yes the best counter to dangerous tech is...having more of it than your enemy. Foolproof plan.
That sounds simplier than to forbid AI and weaponary combination.
Unlike drones, facial recognition and shape charges, practical EMP weapons aren't a real thing. If something like that existed it would already be incredibly useful and a common tool for law enforcement, for example to stop cars with computer controlled fuel injectors, which is basically all cars now.
Militaries are already hijacking each other's drones, automating the process is likely.
Thank you for envisioning a specific future problem and erm.... implementing it?
Can we make a Cupid Drone with pheromone shot instead?
ha ha ha I can see night clubs and bars now...:-)
Why is futuristic robot vision still lower resolution than potato phone.
Wear a face cover?
I would bet they would be programed to also target those they cannot run the facial recognition algorithm on.
Wear an infrared blocking suit they won't even know you're a human
I hope you realize the logic gap in that retarded statement
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The end of the video showed that the dude was identified without face recognition.
You can forbid and regulate, but your enemy won't. Your petition is of no use.
At the time this video was made the situation wasn't hopeless. The world ban on chemical weapons in war had been more successful than not (still is), and we hadn't (still haven't) used nukes again, yet, and at the time this was made, 7 years ago, the autonomous drone tech was still fiction.
But now big versions are being used in Ukraine, to defeat remote jamming so . . . ya, we are screwed.
We must act against bad CGI now.
Actually, the guy on stage was so stereotypically an evil corporate guy I knew it wasn't real in a few microseconds. But it was still very well done.
If you liked that movie, you need to watch Blsck Mirror, especially the Metalhead episode.
Really well done video. Now I am working on my personal protection directed EMP. Living in the future is usually really fun, but sometimes it's scary, too.
You need a microwave oven, a car battery and a lot of tinfoil to build a microwave cannon capable of dealing with that kind of treads.
Short list of countermeasures against slaughterbots:
GPS jammer kills localisation
2,4GHz jammer kills communications
Grilles @windows blocks intruding
Heavy wind blower repealls minidrones
Small kevlar helmet protect from C4 gun
Face hiding glasses blocks recognition
An EMP, instant kill :D
DatMass019 You're right, I understood what do you mean (short copper tracks=very little EMF)
EDIT: In Spanish it's FEM.
Thank you!
Pol Bct well from the looks of it, mosquito netting could be the front line of defense and last line of defense could be a team of tennis players .....:-)
a secondary frag-type explosive would kill the butterfly net solution
Everyone would be carrying a handheld EMP device.
I am so glad we have "good guys" like this in our world. Where would we be without sociopaths dreaming up and profiting from ever more elaborate methods of killing each other?
He dismisses "guns don't kill people, people do" by "oh, people just get emotional.
We need robots that fight robots. That would solve the issue of automated warfare :-)
what issue? War its purpose is to sacrifice soldiers blood to Lucifer. Technical progress is a paradox.
What you need to start doing, is to think. Stop trusting just everyone. Stop trusting just any information. When you see a blockbuster movie think before you buy the ticket - where is your money going to be spent? Spend it where you know it´s going to be safe to spend it. Don´t just spend it on Infowars products, etc.
The rest of us can then just go home.
Sold by the same company no doubt. Giving murder machine corporations more money is not a good thing.
Robots don't vote, people do.
There's no way to stop it.
This ride never ends.
This is highly impressive. I am shocked, to say the least. I had no idea we were this close already. \
This scenario must be prevented at all costs.
Gianni Too late. The solution is change the way people view each other & interact. Focus more on collaboration. Reduce the desire to fight. Make satisfying other desires easier.
"at all costs" right.
I think Ted Kaczynski already tried the 'prevent at all costs' approach , it didn't work out for him .
Its to late.. its already here. We have stuff that the general public would find hard to conceptualize. Synthetic Telepathy... V2K.. Non lethal DEW's can torture you in your home right now.. mix this with god knows what else and we have some life changing technology.. or should I say life destroying. ruclips.net/video/8spm-qZesoA/видео.html
That's shitty Miss Kitty
He got so excited at the "kill". Oh boy.
man, i really hope this happens in real life
Why would someone's phone cut out and turn red when they get shot?
Because, sci-fi
Meh... put $100m behind it and you might have a good movie...
These things are the future. Trying to stop them only means countries we don't like will develop them first.
The audience loved it . . . . all the cheering and clapping . . . . . who was that audience . . ? . !!
Actors. This a movie, not a documentary.
military industrial complex
it was an accurate simulation of republicans and democrats, who both are perpetually clueless
Stuart RUSSELL you welcome essex
Vote Yang guys. He's the only Presidential candidate who takes Artificial Intelligence seriously.
He's out. Not a single decent candidate left,,, :(
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I'm considering writing him in.
he cant do it without ying - silly
It's what's happening in Kerson - Ukraine, no AI, though, but Russian on the other side of the river are using drones every-days to throw grenades on the population, now everyone in Kerson is scare to get out just to buy food.
They have started using drones that can function after their remote connection with the operator has ended. They can kill. Now the only thing left is the miniaturization and the predictions in the video will have come to pass. :-(