Celestion high gain comparison
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- Опубликовано: 7 июл 2024
- A high gain metal Celestion guitar speakers comparison/shootout of the 8 different Celestion speakers I own.
Microphone: Shure SM57
Amp: EVH 5150 III (red channel)
Cabinet: own made 1x12
0:00 Celestion V-Type
0:27 Celestion G12T-75
0:50 Celestion G12M-65 Creamback
1:12 Celestion A-Type
1:34 Celestion G12-50GL Lynchback
1:57 Celestion Vintage 30
2:19 Celestion G12H-30 Anniversary
2:42 Celestion G12H-75 Creamback
3:06 Celestion V-Type (solo)
3:26 Celestion G12T-75 (solo)
3:48 Celestion G12M-65 Creamback (solo)
4:12 Celestion A-Type (solo)
4:35 Celestion G12-50GL Lynchback (solo)
4:57 Celestion Vintage 30 (solo)
5:20 Celestion G12H-30 Anniversary (solo)
5:43 Celestion G12H-75 Creamback (solo)
The first in the mix sound comparison has a low pass and high pass filter on guitar tracks. The comparison you hear after that doesn't have anything else involved. It's the dry tone coming out of the microphone.
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0:08 V-Type 3:06
0:30 G12T-75 3:38
0:52 G12M-65 Creamback 3:51
1:14 A-Type 4:14
1:37 Lynchback 3:37
1:59 Vintage 30 5:00
2:21 G12H Anniversary 5:22
2:44 G12H-75 Creamback 5:45
@TecksMusic, put it in the description please
Thank you!!
Eric Shreds eric, it's you!!! :D
0:08 V-Type 3:06
0:30 G12T-75 3:38
0:52 G12M-65 Creamback 3:51
1:14 A-Type 4:14
1:37 Lynchback 4:37
finally someone who is not playing southern rock and or a fender strat style guitar to test the damn speakers!!
the guitar cab used in the precious years is not manufactured anymore.
Man, loved your comment! Right on, brother! Stop with the start and southern rock already. This guy did a great job!
@@vicferrari89 Yeah Stop with the Strat, everyone knows that southern Rock must be played on a Tele.....😉
Exactly!! Still not metal enough but its a step in the right direction.
G12T-75 has best overall. Probably the most versatile for any style of music.
Your speaker comparisons are the best I've seen/heard yet. Really well recorded, tight playing and great riffs.
Amazing demo! To my ears, G12H Anniversary was the most pleasant one, even more than Vintage 30.
The Anniversary sounds more like classic rock to me.
@@user-dw3ey1vl7u гауно твой коммент. А хороший звук вещь сугубо субъективная, поэтому их бесчетное количество вариаций. И поэтому "to my ears".
@@user-dw3ey1vl7u а что пишется через "ч", если уж опускаться до придирок к словам.
@@user-dw3ey1vl7u гауно этот твой слоган
@@user-dw3ey1vl7u а где ты злобу разглядел? Обычное гауно в комментах помогающее продвигать видео
By far the best comparison vid out there. Well done and subbed!
Awesome, thank you!
The Best speaker test ever. Great job.
Best speaker comparison I've seen on RUclips...excellent job bro! 🤘😏
Thank you, for sharing the voicing and tonal qualities of these speakers.
For me those Creamback Hs 'creamed' everything. Amazing, lush, complex sound.
Thanks for doing such a thorough comparison
What do i know , they all sounded good . Thanks for the demo.
The Lynchback sounded the best to me in this test. I like speakers that not only cut through the mix, but cut through with authority, and that's why I liked the Lynchback. It has muscle and thickness to lend authority to the guitar tone, but at the same time it has a complex harmonically rich mid-range that not only cuts through the ix better than the Vintage 30 but also lends a nice clarity to the notes.
Came for the comparison. Stayed for the riff. Man that just stays with you. Nice
G12H-75 creamback
The most "modern high gain" metal for sure
I subscribed because this was one excellent demo.
I love this demo! the riffs are great!
Este vídeo fue el primer paso para poder identificar el sonido que quería tener para mi el celestion A-Type, gracias Thevon
Excellent video! Thank you!
wow the vtype sounds really good, THanks for the video
Had the same thought. Why aren't these talked about more?
Brandon Bamesberger i have one in a combo tube amp. It can be a bassy / boomy speaker if ur not careful. I find it pairs best w I rage voices trebly guitars. Ymmv
@@BrandonBames because of the price, people are praising expensive ones. V Type is prbly the best C speaker produced in years. I'm not surprised it's in Suhr Bella.
Fantastic demo video!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great comparison. I like the way you did in a mix and on its on. That way we can hear how it sounds in all situations. Also using a short but dynamic riff was perfect. Allows us to actually hear the properties of the speaker. I hate when some people just shred to show their chops. That does nothing for a comparison. A+ video. Thank you for taking the time. Still don't know which my favorite is. The only one I didn't like was the A Type.
Yes, the A type is a totally different speaker than most regular speakers. Not a fan either, but it can sound good for clean guitar tones. It just misses a lot of treble. Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you like this comparison!
Excellent job - this is how all comparisons should be done. Maybe mention the mic set-up or other little details, but other than that, excellent demonstration. Kinda goes to show that the preferred sound will always be subjective, especially if the music is well performed.
Awesome video, man! Thanks for that!! \m/
This is super a helpful demonstration! If only this had been made a couple of years later to include Redbacks :) I'm currently in the market for a cab and I've debating between one with Vintage 30's vs. one with Redbacks, but I don't really have a great comparison (such as this one) for Redbacks directly up against other speakers. They've just been highly recommended to me by a guitarist/producer buddy of mine.
Holy shit what a great comparison video
great , great, greatthanks for both the mix and solov30 for the win for me.
I could spend all day listening to this
My wife hates when i spend all day listening to this...
This is one heck of a speaker comparison Someting we can work with.
Love it 🍺🍺🍺
Thanks! Another one is coming next week. 10 speakers using 2 different cabinets.
Amazing comparison thanks.
This video made me rethink my purchase. Should've went with the 75 Creambacks, they slay
amazing mix and comparison! I´m so glad I found this video quickly :) I´m starting to lose the blind faith I had in my V30´s as sometimes I have a hard time mixing high gain guitars (but when I get the sweetspot they sound agressive and beautiful)
Thank you, I'll be creating a new Celestion comparison in the near future ;-)
Mesa V30s will always reign supreme!
hahaha i was just complaining to myself about how time stamps in comparison videos never consistently line up with the start of the clip.
You wen't and solved that like a boss!
Good day sir :)
You can go mad dissecting these speakers and combination there-of. I'm sticking to V30 + G12T-75 and save myself anguish. Thanks for the effort.
G12t is about half as loud as v30. Try g12h with it instead. Same sensitivity/efficiency. Excellent combination.
@@jaycee30865 T75s are 3 dbs lower than V30s and both H speakers. "Although an increase of 3 dB represents a doubling of the sound pressure, an increase of about 10 dB is required before the sound subjectively appears to be twice as loud. The smallest change we can hear is about 3 dB." Pulled straight from google and I get what they mean. It is definitely possible to hear a difference at 1 or 2 dbs difference but 3 is when it kind of jumps out. That being said, a V30 is not twice as loud.
The 2 Creams and the G12H-AV were my fave's!
Hey, you are really good at rhythms, nice precise playing)
in the mix i'd go for the v30's, amazing sound! very impressive result!
AWESOME!!!
Excellent comparison.
Thanks!
Excellent video! V30 for sure.
Was surprised by the lynchback sounded really good.
Awesome compare my friend. Thank you for making this. The Creambacks are a standout IMO alongside the Lynch 50 GL. Both greats sounding speakers. I think I like the Creambacks the best.
Thanks! I definitely agree.
Great vid 👍
Nice comparison, to break the you tube log you need both like and comments. Nice vid and cool riff on the solo.
I was surprised that I liked the G12H Anniversary just as much as the V30. It's got a bit more upper mid BITE. Excellent demo!
Yes, the G12H is definitely a great alternative for V30's. I think its a bit overshadowed by todays success of the whole Creamback line (which are great speakers too ofcourse)
I was impressed by the G12H-75 Creamback. I like the 65 watt Creamback from the other demo you did, but the 75 watt version sounded like a bigger, beefier version, at least to me. It's certainly made me want to look into them more, thanks :)
Yeah man. The vintage 30 wasn't beefy enough though sounded pretty good.
More dynamic speaker all around. People think they love British mids until they hear a more modern version of a British speaker that dials back the mids a bit and adds some punch to everything else. The G12H has a British foundation with some American sensibilities. Perfect.
"Beefier" is pointless when there's a shitload of 2k killing your ears..
Love my 75 Creambacks. They are very huge sounding and very neutral, haven't played an amp that didn't gel with them.
@@TVoltGcreamback 16 om or 8om ?
Great comparison! I’m thinking of putting a new speaker in my Marshall DSL40CR and this was a big help. Many thanks. Creamback 75 I think! I like the V30 as well.
Glad it was helpful and great choice!
thanks for such a hi-fi, clear sounding video.
also, you did a great job dialing in a killer distortion sound. it sounds good regardless of each speaker's own signature stamp.
I'm still deciding on which speaker I liked best. although I can say that i myself own a 4x12 of GT12-75's, and in this video, they sound amongst the weakest of the other speakers here, to my ear. the other speakers have made me more aware of a high-mid fizz that is present in the character of the G12T-75, that I would rather not have present. here goes more GAS. lol
MrKingswebe Thanks! Well, I have a hate love relationship with the T75. I would suggest both of the creambacks and the lynchback as great alternatives for the T75 and V30.
I want all of them xD
There are just so different, and sound can be great with each one :3
Awesome review. Well played and recorded. Thoughtful production. Easy to toggle between spkrs w/ the video thumbnail below. Thank you!
Cool hot riffs ! Tone sounds like my Friedman rig
"accidentally" bought the Anniversary speakers on a flea market a few years ago and they definitely defined my tone since then. Love em!
That's why people should make 'mistakes' ;-)
So the moral of this story you can't go wrong with celestion speakers.
The v type and a type surprised me the most. Woah. V30 and the creamback h75 sounded best. Fits so well in a mix and it has that extra 2% that other speakers lack. Small percentage but makes that much of a difference. V type is a close second then the lynchback and creamback g12-65 tied in third for me.
Keep seeing the G12T-75 show up, and it keeps sounding good. My Rectoverb 25 is a bit mid-strong for me and I’d rather not add an EQ pedal to my already crowded pedal board. The Verb comes with a UK V30. The V-Types are actually pretty good speakers.
Those creambacks sound pretty good!
Yeah man! 🔥
that's the way to do a speaker test, thanks a lot.
G12H30 Anniversary for me, also that V-type is growing on me, it has most of the G12H30/Greenback/Vintage 30 sounds without any of the bad peaks, a very classy rock sound really and dirt cheap too
Thanks! Yes, the G12H30 is actually a great speaker too. I actually like it even more on this newer comparison I've made: ruclips.net/video/JERNrggNNtI/видео.html
It's the first speaker in the comparison clips.
Perfect thanks!!
after having hours upon hours put in with my marshall DSL through an EVH 2x12 with the G12H30's and having become somewhat tired of what I percieve anyway as an overly fizzy character and unrefined low end, this is very much helping me make up my mind for the replacements and I am leaning towards either the V types or the creamback 75s
I think you'll dig the Creamback's the most if you want nice treble. Actually the best treble that I've experienced comes from the Celestion Cream, but unfortunately I don't have one anymore, so it didn't end up in the video. It's an alnico speaker so quite expensive, but has such a nice fizz to it without being harsh. I think this speaker is mostly used for cleans, but damn... it sounded super awesome with high gain too, especially in the room.
The DSLs are quite scooped. I recommend running mids on 10, treble no more than 4, preferably 3, presence wide open on 10, bass and resonance around 5. That will get it into useable territory, regardless of the speaker used.
I have a dsl40cr that came with the V-Type and it's really fizzy and lacks bottom end...it sounds thin and brittle...not so bad for blues and country...terrible for metal though.
I use an extension cab loaded with a Vintage 30 8ohm for high gain and it fixes the fizz issue and has tons of bottom end...it thumps and has searing creamy leads...so much better than the v-type for that application.
I love the sound of the H30-Anniversary, closely followed by the H75
Vintage 30 & Lynch backs did it for me. But my favorite are the classic lead 80s
Thanks man
you made the v-type and a-type sound a lot better than fluff
I love the creamy sound of creamback
Excellent playing. I'm a v type fan (bassbreaker 30r rocks)
Excellent comparison vid. Would have liked to see the Greenback in there (Ola Englund has a great vid on these), but still nice vid. Thanks!
I agree but I didn't own a Greenback yet when this video was made.
I am always about Vintage 30's but I do like the G12H-75 Creamback as well. Would like to hear the Redback too.
GT 3:25
MC 3:48
V30 4:57
HC 5:43
I like to call them: 🤘
T-75
M-65
H-75
G12T-75s all day and all night!
Great comparison, great sound quality! The riff is pretty good too, allowed me to check out the oomph, and the drive, and the brightness, and body of each speaker. One of the best comparisons I've seen on youtube, great job! Btw, could you give us some more info on the gear you used? Thanks.
+Barukh Thank you!
+Barukh EVH 5153 amp (channel three used) and the cabinet is an own made 1x12 cab. Microphone used is an SM57.
+TecksMusic Thanks for doing this. What pickups did you used? Emgs?
Yes, that's an LTD Ken Susi model with EMG 81-7 in the bridge that I used.
+TecksMusic is there any difference in tone between 8 ohms and 16 ??
G12H-75 Creamback is the winner :)
Man the thing with this is IMO - THEY ALL sound good in their own way. At some point you just gotta decide what tone and sound YOU want. Ask yourself musically/sonically what you're trying to achieve, and does that speaker or combination do it?
For me - #1. V30, #2. 65 Creamback
Oh yea, vintage 30's for the win!
Yep. Good ears man. The V30 doesn't have any of that nasty ear killing 2k jingle bells from hell. Who cares about 'beefy'. It's those higher frequencies you want to get rid of. That's where the real warmth comes from !
Chief Thundrecock Yep! The Vintage 30 is the worst speaker Celestion ever made. Even the Rocket 50 sounds better than the V30.
@Chief Thundrecock - Well, actually it depends on what type of rig you're running into the speaker(s). Your signal chain is going to determine what's coming out of it more than anything else. That said, you must be using a lot of digital stuff.
@@TheAxe4Ever a speaker like the v30 slays in taming the woofiness of something like a dual rectifier and bringing out its mids amongst all the low end, where they can get harsh with somethings thats crunchier like a 5150 which is too much high end paired with v30s.
borutos dad I guess that’s why I hated them so much. I got my first Peavey 5150 head (Block letter) when they first came out. I was playing it through a Marshall cab with V30’s and hated it. I had been through a few cabinets through the years and they all came loaded with V30’s for some reason. Probably because they were a popular speaker and I really wanted to try to like them. Recently I went with the EVH 5150 III and the same thing. V30’s were awful with that too. Finally broke down and bought the matching cab with the EVH G12. They are actually the G12M Heritage speakers with the EVH badge on the back. MUCH better. So yeah, you are correct. Depends on the amp they’re paired with.
Would the G12T-75 work well when mixed with the V-Type ? I love the T-75 but I prefer mixing it , V30 is the classic choice but I can't afford it for the moment ,would the V-Type be a good and cheaper alternative to the V30 ? I'm asking just for advice here
Nice Tones BTW and great comparison , only the A-type sounded awful :-/
I wonder how the Classic Lead, the Greenback and the K100 would fare in comparison with these... Great job man.
+Jaime Noro Thanks! Yes, that would be interesting but I simply don't own those speakers.
@@ThevonMusic the Greenback 25 is the best guitar speaker of all.
Vtype and creamback 65 my favorites
I've tried all kinds of speaker brands and models. But I was always going back to the Cele V30. They're by far the best speaker for my style (stoner rock/hard rock).
It is definitely one of the best speakers out there. Did you try one of the creamback speakers yet? I honestly like the G12M-65 Creamback even more then V30's, so perhaps you will like them too.
V30 and G12M-65 makes a great pair despite the volume difference. We all know that V30's has that upper mid spike that many people either love or hate. M65 has a lot of mids as well but in different frequencies. Together they make a combination that has nice mid bump instead of mid spike. Thick but roaring and cutting but not piercing. M65's also add some "brown" character to the sound.
Even that I haven't tried it yet I am positively sure that V30's and G12H-75's make equally good pair as well. With a little less brown sound though
Does the M have a lots of mids?? Sounds like a moderate scoop to me??
My issue with this one is the v30 sounds nothing like the v30's I've got, far clearer on the top end here. Most of these sound great too, makes me want to reconsider the v-type and g12-65.
If you've got UK made V30s, they are much darker IMO. I like the China ones.
@@vicferrari89 I had some long talks with various V30 nerds about this and the consensus was that the initial differences are the most apparent. After years of burn in, apparently the V30s from China sound similar to the UK. As far as I know they moved all their manufacturing equipment to China to get them set up too, and after some setbacks early on, should be pretty close. That said, I think the original equipment is in the UK again with the Chinese stuff calibrated off of it. There is a whole thing about the cones too. I've also realized how massively cab construction affects tone from my own testing, probably more than China vs UK ever would. Since getting my H&K V30 4x12, I'm perfectly happy with the tone I'm getting from well used China V30s.
1. V-type : 03:07
6. V30 : 05:01
2. GT-75 : 03:30
5. Lynchback : 04:39
3. G12M-65 : 03:53
7. G12H : 05:24
4. A-type : 04:16
65/75 Creambacks sounded best to my ears, but they are all good. Now I know what to upgrade with, thank you.
Creambacks are definitely great speakers. Also the alnico Cream is excellent (but also more expensive)
I have the Peavey Invective cab 2x12 (creamback &v30) w/bias rack.......insane
I think a 4x12 cab with two celestion v types on the top and two celestion lynch backs on the bottom would be the sickest ever.
Those 65w Creambacks sound killer
I think a pairing of 2 Creamback 75's with 2 V30's in a 4x12 would sound excellent, maybe switch one of the 4 speakers for a Creamback 65 for some extra low end
what do you think about Creamback M65 and T75 combo? T75 has body and quick definition, M65 has that greenbacky midrange cut
Wow your tones sound great. I like the punchyness of the V-type actually. whats the signal chain for this vid?
Very gus g. playing dude!
A type and t75s me like the most
I thought they all sound pretty good, except for the A type maybe. I think it comes down to personal preference. I liked the V type and V30 best.
I was Surprised I liked the A type. I have never even looked at that speaker before. And the g12-75 Creamback
Great vid! Which of your speakers do you think has the best low end to compliment a V30?
The G12M65 is awesome! I would to hear a comparison of this with G12EVH.
I'm more of a T-75 guy myself but great video!
If it obligó has included the 70 eigthy for comparison purposes, it is a stock speaker for lots if amps
Loved this guide! Still love my G12H's (8's). After listening, I would still pick them (sounds very close). I would now consider a G12H-75 Creamback in another cabinet to change things up.
Out of curiosity what's the source of your distortion? I cannot get my PPC 112 60W Celestion V30 to sound that chunky and low end for the life of me.
G12H Anniversary and V30s for the win
Same
I've got a mix of both v30 and anniversary in 2x12 cab. And it's sounding awesome