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finally someone who is not playing southern rock and or a fender strat style guitar to test the damn speakers!! the guitar cab used in the precious years is not manufactured anymore.
@@jaycee30865 T75s are 3 dbs lower than V30s and both H speakers. "Although an increase of 3 dB represents a doubling of the sound pressure, an increase of about 10 dB is required before the sound subjectively appears to be twice as loud. The smallest change we can hear is about 3 dB." Pulled straight from google and I get what they mean. It is definitely possible to hear a difference at 1 or 2 dbs difference but 3 is when it kind of jumps out. That being said, a V30 is not twice as loud.
Brandon Bamesberger i have one in a combo tube amp. It can be a bassy / boomy speaker if ur not careful. I find it pairs best w I rage voices trebly guitars. Ymmv
@@BrandonBames because of the price, people are praising expensive ones. V Type is prbly the best C speaker produced in years. I'm not surprised it's in Suhr Bella.
The Lynchback sounded the best to me in this test. I like speakers that not only cut through the mix, but cut through with authority, and that's why I liked the Lynchback. It has muscle and thickness to lend authority to the guitar tone, but at the same time it has a complex harmonically rich mid-range that not only cuts through the ix better than the Vintage 30 but also lends a nice clarity to the notes.
I was impressed by the G12H-75 Creamback. I like the 65 watt Creamback from the other demo you did, but the 75 watt version sounded like a bigger, beefier version, at least to me. It's certainly made me want to look into them more, thanks :)
More dynamic speaker all around. People think they love British mids until they hear a more modern version of a British speaker that dials back the mids a bit and adds some punch to everything else. The G12H has a British foundation with some American sensibilities. Perfect.
hahaha i was just complaining to myself about how time stamps in comparison videos never consistently line up with the start of the clip. You wen't and solved that like a boss! Good day sir :)
Awesome compare my friend. Thank you for making this. The Creambacks are a standout IMO alongside the Lynch 50 GL. Both greats sounding speakers. I think I like the Creambacks the best.
Yes, the G12H is definitely a great alternative for V30's. I think its a bit overshadowed by todays success of the whole Creamback line (which are great speakers too ofcourse)
Great comparison. I like the way you did in a mix and on its on. That way we can hear how it sounds in all situations. Also using a short but dynamic riff was perfect. Allows us to actually hear the properties of the speaker. I hate when some people just shred to show their chops. That does nothing for a comparison. A+ video. Thank you for taking the time. Still don't know which my favorite is. The only one I didn't like was the A Type.
Yes, the A type is a totally different speaker than most regular speakers. Not a fan either, but it can sound good for clean guitar tones. It just misses a lot of treble. Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you like this comparison!
after having hours upon hours put in with my marshall DSL through an EVH 2x12 with the G12H30's and having become somewhat tired of what I percieve anyway as an overly fizzy character and unrefined low end, this is very much helping me make up my mind for the replacements and I am leaning towards either the V types or the creamback 75s
I think you'll dig the Creamback's the most if you want nice treble. Actually the best treble that I've experienced comes from the Celestion Cream, but unfortunately I don't have one anymore, so it didn't end up in the video. It's an alnico speaker so quite expensive, but has such a nice fizz to it without being harsh. I think this speaker is mostly used for cleans, but damn... it sounded super awesome with high gain too, especially in the room.
The DSLs are quite scooped. I recommend running mids on 10, treble no more than 4, preferably 3, presence wide open on 10, bass and resonance around 5. That will get it into useable territory, regardless of the speaker used.
I have a dsl40cr that came with the V-Type and it's really fizzy and lacks bottom end...it sounds thin and brittle...not so bad for blues and country...terrible for metal though. I use an extension cab loaded with a Vintage 30 8ohm for high gain and it fixes the fizz issue and has tons of bottom end...it thumps and has searing creamy leads...so much better than the v-type for that application.
I have these speakers in my 1960A cab....I've listened to a lot of comparison vids...yep they are the most versatile but IMO, the Greenbacks are best for crunchy metal, (not used in this comparo).
The v type and a type surprised me the most. Woah. V30 and the creamback h75 sounded best. Fits so well in a mix and it has that extra 2% that other speakers lack. Small percentage but makes that much of a difference. V type is a close second then the lynchback and creamback g12-65 tied in third for me.
Keep seeing the G12T-75 show up, and it keeps sounding good. My Rectoverb 25 is a bit mid-strong for me and I’d rather not add an EQ pedal to my already crowded pedal board. The Verb comes with a UK V30. The V-Types are actually pretty good speakers.
This is super a helpful demonstration! If only this had been made a couple of years later to include Redbacks :) I'm currently in the market for a cab and I've debating between one with Vintage 30's vs. one with Redbacks, but I don't really have a great comparison (such as this one) for Redbacks directly up against other speakers. They've just been highly recommended to me by a guitarist/producer buddy of mine.
Excellent job - this is how all comparisons should be done. Maybe mention the mic set-up or other little details, but other than that, excellent demonstration. Kinda goes to show that the preferred sound will always be subjective, especially if the music is well performed.
amazing mix and comparison! I´m so glad I found this video quickly :) I´m starting to lose the blind faith I had in my V30´s as sometimes I have a hard time mixing high gain guitars (but when I get the sweetspot they sound agressive and beautiful)
Excellent thank you. If you just start at the highest wattage and work your way down to the lowest wattage you will hear the speakers open up. Basically, high wattage speakers suck. So much gets lost in handling more power.
Yep. Good ears man. The V30 doesn't have any of that nasty ear killing 2k jingle bells from hell. Who cares about 'beefy'. It's those higher frequencies you want to get rid of. That's where the real warmth comes from !
@Chief Thundrecock - Well, actually it depends on what type of rig you're running into the speaker(s). Your signal chain is going to determine what's coming out of it more than anything else. That said, you must be using a lot of digital stuff.
@@TheAxe4Ever a speaker like the v30 slays in taming the woofiness of something like a dual rectifier and bringing out its mids amongst all the low end, where they can get harsh with somethings thats crunchier like a 5150 which is too much high end paired with v30s.
borutos dad I guess that’s why I hated them so much. I got my first Peavey 5150 head (Block letter) when they first came out. I was playing it through a Marshall cab with V30’s and hated it. I had been through a few cabinets through the years and they all came loaded with V30’s for some reason. Probably because they were a popular speaker and I really wanted to try to like them. Recently I went with the EVH 5150 III and the same thing. V30’s were awful with that too. Finally broke down and bought the matching cab with the EVH G12. They are actually the G12M Heritage speakers with the EVH badge on the back. MUCH better. So yeah, you are correct. Depends on the amp they’re paired with.
Great comparison! I’m thinking of putting a new speaker in my Marshall DSL40CR and this was a big help. Many thanks. Creamback 75 I think! I like the V30 as well.
My issue with this one is the v30 sounds nothing like the v30's I've got, far clearer on the top end here. Most of these sound great too, makes me want to reconsider the v-type and g12-65.
@@vicferrari89 I had some long talks with various V30 nerds about this and the consensus was that the initial differences are the most apparent. After years of burn in, apparently the V30s from China sound similar to the UK. As far as I know they moved all their manufacturing equipment to China to get them set up too, and after some setbacks early on, should be pretty close. That said, I think the original equipment is in the UK again with the Chinese stuff calibrated off of it. There is a whole thing about the cones too. I've also realized how massively cab construction affects tone from my own testing, probably more than China vs UK ever would. Since getting my H&K V30 4x12, I'm perfectly happy with the tone I'm getting from well used China V30s.
@@jaychen2000metal WGS have been through the roof pre pandemeic. 119 for a reaper vs 125 for a greenback. Hardly much cheaper. Now prices have gone up even further. I always like my jet series jensen. I have 10 Falcons and they totally got rid of all my fizz.
@@thorinbane I kept seeing $149 for Celestion and $119 for wgs so i went WGS Reaper/Retro and i love it. Not the best for bitey amps because the Retros are a tad bitey in the treble.
thanks for such a hi-fi, clear sounding video. also, you did a great job dialing in a killer distortion sound. it sounds good regardless of each speaker's own signature stamp. I'm still deciding on which speaker I liked best. although I can say that i myself own a 4x12 of GT12-75's, and in this video, they sound amongst the weakest of the other speakers here, to my ear. the other speakers have made me more aware of a high-mid fizz that is present in the character of the G12T-75, that I would rather not have present. here goes more GAS. lol
MrKingswebe Thanks! Well, I have a hate love relationship with the T75. I would suggest both of the creambacks and the lynchback as great alternatives for the T75 and V30.
that's the way to do a speaker test, thanks a lot. G12H30 Anniversary for me, also that V-type is growing on me, it has most of the G12H30/Greenback/Vintage 30 sounds without any of the bad peaks, a very classy rock sound really and dirt cheap too
Thanks! Yes, the G12H30 is actually a great speaker too. I actually like it even more on this newer comparison I've made: ruclips.net/video/JERNrggNNtI/видео.html It's the first speaker in the comparison clips.
Man the thing with this is IMO - THEY ALL sound good in their own way. At some point you just gotta decide what tone and sound YOU want. Ask yourself musically/sonically what you're trying to achieve, and does that speaker or combination do it?
Great comparison, great sound quality! The riff is pretty good too, allowed me to check out the oomph, and the drive, and the brightness, and body of each speaker. One of the best comparisons I've seen on youtube, great job! Btw, could you give us some more info on the gear you used? Thanks.
I've tried all kinds of speaker brands and models. But I was always going back to the Cele V30. They're by far the best speaker for my style (stoner rock/hard rock).
It is definitely one of the best speakers out there. Did you try one of the creamback speakers yet? I honestly like the G12M-65 Creamback even more then V30's, so perhaps you will like them too.
V30 and G12M-65 makes a great pair despite the volume difference. We all know that V30's has that upper mid spike that many people either love or hate. M65 has a lot of mids as well but in different frequencies. Together they make a combination that has nice mid bump instead of mid spike. Thick but roaring and cutting but not piercing. M65's also add some "brown" character to the sound. Even that I haven't tried it yet I am positively sure that V30's and G12H-75's make equally good pair as well. With a little less brown sound though
I think a pairing of 2 Creamback 75's with 2 V30's in a 4x12 would sound excellent, maybe switch one of the 4 speakers for a Creamback 65 for some extra low end
Can someone please help me and let me know if any of these are greenbacks? I’m interested in buying a cabinet. I’ve always only sought after v30s. The guy has greenbacks in his and I can find no demos of an engl cabinet with them. V60s sounded brutal in that model for modern metal but I prefer a more rounded tone. If this is what greenbacks sound like I might actually be interested.
12H-creamback was my favorite. Just bought a 5150 iconic and have heard that the speaker in it is chinese made like the rest of it which is fine, chinas come a long way since the 90s crap they used to build, but if it doesnt appease what im looking for, im on the hunt for a speaker that will hold all the different tones it canthrow at it. Any suggestions?
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0:08 V-Type 3:06
0:30 G12T-75 3:38
0:52 G12M-65 Creamback 3:51
1:14 A-Type 4:14
1:37 Lynchback 4:37
1:59 Vintage 30 5:00
2:21 G12H Anniversary 5:22
2:44 G12H-75 Creamback 5:45
@TecksMusic, put it in the description please
Thank you!!
Eric Shreds eric, it's you!!! :D
0:08 V-Type 3:06
0:30 G12T-75 3:38
0:52 G12M-65 Creamback 3:51
1:14 A-Type 4:14
1:37 Lynchback 4:37
finally someone who is not playing southern rock and or a fender strat style guitar to test the damn speakers!!
the guitar cab used in the precious years is not manufactured anymore.
Man, loved your comment! Right on, brother! Stop with the start and southern rock already. This guy did a great job!
@@vicferrari89 Yeah Stop with the Strat, everyone knows that southern Rock must be played on a Tele.....😉
Exactly!! Still not metal enough but its a step in the right direction.
Your speaker comparisons are the best I've seen/heard yet. Really well recorded, tight playing and great riffs.
Amazing demo! To my ears, G12H Anniversary was the most pleasant one, even more than Vintage 30.
The Anniversary sounds more like classic rock to me.
@@СынСын-н9ь гауно твой коммент. А хороший звук вещь сугубо субъективная, поэтому их бесчетное количество вариаций. И поэтому "to my ears".
@@СынСын-н9ь а что пишется через "ч", если уж опускаться до придирок к словам.
@@СынСын-н9ь гауно этот твой слоган
@@СынСын-н9ь а где ты злобу разглядел? Обычное гауно в комментах помогающее продвигать видео
The Best speaker test ever. Great job.
By far the best comparison vid out there. Well done and subbed!
Awesome, thank you!
You can go mad dissecting these speakers and combinations there-of. I'm sticking to V30 + G12T-75 and save myself anguish. Thanks for the effort.
G12t is about half as loud as v30. Try g12h with it instead. Same sensitivity/efficiency. Excellent combination.
@@jaycee30865 T75s are 3 dbs lower than V30s and both H speakers. "Although an increase of 3 dB represents a doubling of the sound pressure, an increase of about 10 dB is required before the sound subjectively appears to be twice as loud. The smallest change we can hear is about 3 dB." Pulled straight from google and I get what they mean. It is definitely possible to hear a difference at 1 or 2 dbs difference but 3 is when it kind of jumps out. That being said, a V30 is not twice as loud.
I've been reading where lots of people are mixing half G12T-75's with the V30's for a good overall cab sound as you mentioned here firststep.
"accidentally" bought the Anniversary speakers on a flea market a few years ago and they definitely defined my tone since then. Love em!
That's why people should make 'mistakes' ;-)
What do i know , they all sounded good . Thanks for the demo.
wow the vtype sounds really good, THanks for the video
Had the same thought. Why aren't these talked about more?
Brandon Bamesberger i have one in a combo tube amp. It can be a bassy / boomy speaker if ur not careful. I find it pairs best w I rage voices trebly guitars. Ymmv
@@BrandonBames because of the price, people are praising expensive ones. V Type is prbly the best C speaker produced in years. I'm not surprised it's in Suhr Bella.
The Lynchback sounded the best to me in this test. I like speakers that not only cut through the mix, but cut through with authority, and that's why I liked the Lynchback. It has muscle and thickness to lend authority to the guitar tone, but at the same time it has a complex harmonically rich mid-range that not only cuts through the ix better than the Vintage 30 but also lends a nice clarity to the notes.
I thought they sounded the worst LOL
Came for the comparison. Stayed for the riff. Man that just stays with you. Nice
So the moral of this story you can't go wrong with celestion speakers.
I was impressed by the G12H-75 Creamback. I like the 65 watt Creamback from the other demo you did, but the 75 watt version sounded like a bigger, beefier version, at least to me. It's certainly made me want to look into them more, thanks :)
Yeah man. The vintage 30 wasn't beefy enough though sounded pretty good.
More dynamic speaker all around. People think they love British mids until they hear a more modern version of a British speaker that dials back the mids a bit and adds some punch to everything else. The G12H has a British foundation with some American sensibilities. Perfect.
"Beefier" is pointless when there's a shitload of 2k killing your ears..
Love my 75 Creambacks. They are very huge sounding and very neutral, haven't played an amp that didn't gel with them.
@@TVoltGcreamback 16 om or 8om ?
hahaha i was just complaining to myself about how time stamps in comparison videos never consistently line up with the start of the clip.
You wen't and solved that like a boss!
Good day sir :)
I could spend all day listening to this
My wife hates when i spend all day listening to this...
Best speaker comparison I've seen on RUclips...excellent job bro! 🤘😏
Awesome compare my friend. Thank you for making this. The Creambacks are a standout IMO alongside the Lynch 50 GL. Both greats sounding speakers. I think I like the Creambacks the best.
Thanks! I definitely agree.
This video made me rethink my purchase. Should've went with the 75 Creambacks, they slay
I was surprised that I liked the G12H Anniversary just as much as the V30. It's got a bit more upper mid BITE. Excellent demo!
Yes, the G12H is definitely a great alternative for V30's. I think its a bit overshadowed by todays success of the whole Creamback line (which are great speakers too ofcourse)
G12H-75 creamback
The most "modern high gain" metal for sure
you made the v-type and a-type sound a lot better than fluff
Este vídeo fue el primer paso para poder identificar el sonido que quería tener para mi el celestion A-Type, gracias Thevon
Was surprised by the lynchback sounded really good.
I subscribed because this was one excellent demo.
Nice comparison, to break the you tube log you need both like and comments. Nice vid and cool riff on the solo.
Great comparison. I like the way you did in a mix and on its on. That way we can hear how it sounds in all situations. Also using a short but dynamic riff was perfect. Allows us to actually hear the properties of the speaker. I hate when some people just shred to show their chops. That does nothing for a comparison. A+ video. Thank you for taking the time. Still don't know which my favorite is. The only one I didn't like was the A Type.
Yes, the A type is a totally different speaker than most regular speakers. Not a fan either, but it can sound good for clean guitar tones. It just misses a lot of treble. Thanks for your comment, I'm glad you like this comparison!
after having hours upon hours put in with my marshall DSL through an EVH 2x12 with the G12H30's and having become somewhat tired of what I percieve anyway as an overly fizzy character and unrefined low end, this is very much helping me make up my mind for the replacements and I am leaning towards either the V types or the creamback 75s
I think you'll dig the Creamback's the most if you want nice treble. Actually the best treble that I've experienced comes from the Celestion Cream, but unfortunately I don't have one anymore, so it didn't end up in the video. It's an alnico speaker so quite expensive, but has such a nice fizz to it without being harsh. I think this speaker is mostly used for cleans, but damn... it sounded super awesome with high gain too, especially in the room.
The DSLs are quite scooped. I recommend running mids on 10, treble no more than 4, preferably 3, presence wide open on 10, bass and resonance around 5. That will get it into useable territory, regardless of the speaker used.
I have a dsl40cr that came with the V-Type and it's really fizzy and lacks bottom end...it sounds thin and brittle...not so bad for blues and country...terrible for metal though.
I use an extension cab loaded with a Vintage 30 8ohm for high gain and it fixes the fizz issue and has tons of bottom end...it thumps and has searing creamy leads...so much better than the v-type for that application.
A lot of comparisons show some speakers sounding good and others bad . You make every one of these sound good .
G12T-75 has best overall. Probably the most versatile for any style of music.
I have these speakers in my 1960A cab....I've listened to a lot of comparison vids...yep they are the most versatile but IMO, the Greenbacks are best for crunchy metal, (not used in this comparo).
@@markusaurelius777 all i heard from that one was shshhhhhssssssshhshshshshssshsh
1. V-type : 03:07
6. V30 : 05:01
2. GT-75 : 03:30
5. Lynchback : 04:39
3. G12M-65 : 03:53
7. G12H : 05:24
4. A-type : 04:16
The v type and a type surprised me the most. Woah. V30 and the creamback h75 sounded best. Fits so well in a mix and it has that extra 2% that other speakers lack. Small percentage but makes that much of a difference. V type is a close second then the lynchback and creamback g12-65 tied in third for me.
Keep seeing the G12T-75 show up, and it keeps sounding good. My Rectoverb 25 is a bit mid-strong for me and I’d rather not add an EQ pedal to my already crowded pedal board. The Verb comes with a UK V30. The V-Types are actually pretty good speakers.
GT 3:25
MC 3:48
V30 4:57
HC 5:43
I like to call them: 🤘
T-75
M-65
H-75
Damn… they all sound great. Hard to beat the well rounded-ness of the Vintage 30, including the price.
The 2 Creams and the G12H-AV were my fave's!
This is super a helpful demonstration! If only this had been made a couple of years later to include Redbacks :) I'm currently in the market for a cab and I've debating between one with Vintage 30's vs. one with Redbacks, but I don't really have a great comparison (such as this one) for Redbacks directly up against other speakers. They've just been highly recommended to me by a guitarist/producer buddy of mine.
Thanks for doing such a thorough comparison
Excellent demo, excellent tones.
For me those Creamback Hs 'creamed' everything. Amazing, lush, complex sound.
Thank you, for sharing the voicing and tonal qualities of these speakers.
in the mix i'd go for the v30's, amazing sound! very impressive result!
I love the creamy sound of creamback
Excellent job - this is how all comparisons should be done. Maybe mention the mic set-up or other little details, but other than that, excellent demonstration. Kinda goes to show that the preferred sound will always be subjective, especially if the music is well performed.
amazing mix and comparison! I´m so glad I found this video quickly :) I´m starting to lose the blind faith I had in my V30´s as sometimes I have a hard time mixing high gain guitars (but when I get the sweetspot they sound agressive and beautiful)
Thank you, I'll be creating a new Celestion comparison in the near future ;-)
Mesa V30s will always reign supreme!
0:08 V-Type 3:06
0:30 G12T-75 3:38
0:52 G12M-65 Creamback 3:51
1:14 A-Type 4:14
1:37 Lynchback 4:37
1:59 Vintage 30 5:00
2:21 G12H Anniversary 5:22
2:44 G12H-75 Creamback 5:45
Excellent thank you. If you just start at the highest wattage and work your way down to the lowest wattage you will hear the speakers open up. Basically, high wattage speakers suck. So much gets lost in handling more power.
Except in the case of the a type which just sucks straight up.
Excellent comparison.
Thanks!
This is one heck of a speaker comparison Someting we can work with.
Love it 🍺🍺🍺
Thanks! Another one is coming next week. 10 speakers using 2 different cabinets.
Fantastic demo video!
Thank you! Cheers!
Oh yea, vintage 30's for the win!
Yep. Good ears man. The V30 doesn't have any of that nasty ear killing 2k jingle bells from hell. Who cares about 'beefy'. It's those higher frequencies you want to get rid of. That's where the real warmth comes from !
Chief Thundrecock Yep! The Vintage 30 is the worst speaker Celestion ever made. Even the Rocket 50 sounds better than the V30.
@Chief Thundrecock - Well, actually it depends on what type of rig you're running into the speaker(s). Your signal chain is going to determine what's coming out of it more than anything else. That said, you must be using a lot of digital stuff.
@@TheAxe4Ever a speaker like the v30 slays in taming the woofiness of something like a dual rectifier and bringing out its mids amongst all the low end, where they can get harsh with somethings thats crunchier like a 5150 which is too much high end paired with v30s.
borutos dad I guess that’s why I hated them so much. I got my first Peavey 5150 head (Block letter) when they first came out. I was playing it through a Marshall cab with V30’s and hated it. I had been through a few cabinets through the years and they all came loaded with V30’s for some reason. Probably because they were a popular speaker and I really wanted to try to like them. Recently I went with the EVH 5150 III and the same thing. V30’s were awful with that too. Finally broke down and bought the matching cab with the EVH G12. They are actually the G12M Heritage speakers with the EVH badge on the back. MUCH better. So yeah, you are correct. Depends on the amp they’re paired with.
Awesome review. Well played and recorded. Thoughtful production. Easy to toggle between spkrs w/ the video thumbnail below. Thank you!
Great comparison! I’m thinking of putting a new speaker in my Marshall DSL40CR and this was a big help. Many thanks. Creamback 75 I think! I like the V30 as well.
Glad it was helpful and great choice!
Excellent video! Thank you!
Hey, you are really good at rhythms, nice precise playing)
Holy shit what a great comparison video
I love the sound of the H30-Anniversary, closely followed by the H75
Vintage 30 & Lynch backs did it for me. But my favorite are the classic lead 80s
I wonder how the Classic Lead, the Greenback and the K100 would fare in comparison with these... Great job man.
+Jaime Noro Thanks! Yes, that would be interesting but I simply don't own those speakers.
@@ThevonMusic the Greenback 25 is the best guitar speaker of all.
My issue with this one is the v30 sounds nothing like the v30's I've got, far clearer on the top end here. Most of these sound great too, makes me want to reconsider the v-type and g12-65.
If you've got UK made V30s, they are much darker IMO. I like the China ones.
@@vicferrari89 I had some long talks with various V30 nerds about this and the consensus was that the initial differences are the most apparent. After years of burn in, apparently the V30s from China sound similar to the UK. As far as I know they moved all their manufacturing equipment to China to get them set up too, and after some setbacks early on, should be pretty close. That said, I think the original equipment is in the UK again with the Chinese stuff calibrated off of it. There is a whole thing about the cones too. I've also realized how massively cab construction affects tone from my own testing, probably more than China vs UK ever would. Since getting my H&K V30 4x12, I'm perfectly happy with the tone I'm getting from well used China V30s.
Weird thing is, the v30 didn't sound overly mid humped like some of the others
UK Version here!
I just bought some WGS Reapers. Celestions are too expensive...
@@jaychen2000metal WGS have been through the roof pre pandemeic. 119 for a reaper vs 125 for a greenback. Hardly much cheaper. Now prices have gone up even further. I always like my jet series jensen. I have 10 Falcons and they totally got rid of all my fizz.
@@thorinbane I kept seeing $149 for Celestion and $119 for wgs so i went WGS Reaper/Retro and i love it. Not the best for bitey amps because the Retros are a tad bitey in the treble.
Anyone know what the cabinet setup was for this test? Single 12", 2x12, 4x12?
It's in the description. A 1x12. I made this cab myself from birch plywood.
@@ThevonMusic Ah yes. Very cool. Thank you, thank you! :-)
They all sound like phone speakers to me.............oh
Chuckle
@@jaychen2000metal like celestion's thru ear-buds
thanks for such a hi-fi, clear sounding video.
also, you did a great job dialing in a killer distortion sound. it sounds good regardless of each speaker's own signature stamp.
I'm still deciding on which speaker I liked best. although I can say that i myself own a 4x12 of GT12-75's, and in this video, they sound amongst the weakest of the other speakers here, to my ear. the other speakers have made me more aware of a high-mid fizz that is present in the character of the G12T-75, that I would rather not have present. here goes more GAS. lol
MrKingswebe Thanks! Well, I have a hate love relationship with the T75. I would suggest both of the creambacks and the lynchback as great alternatives for the T75 and V30.
great , great, greatthanks for both the mix and solov30 for the win for me.
65/75 Creambacks sounded best to my ears, but they are all good. Now I know what to upgrade with, thank you.
Creambacks are definitely great speakers. Also the alnico Cream is excellent (but also more expensive)
G12T-75s all day and all night!
Excellent playing. I'm a v type fan (bassbreaker 30r rocks)
that's the way to do a speaker test, thanks a lot.
G12H30 Anniversary for me, also that V-type is growing on me, it has most of the G12H30/Greenback/Vintage 30 sounds without any of the bad peaks, a very classy rock sound really and dirt cheap too
Thanks! Yes, the G12H30 is actually a great speaker too. I actually like it even more on this newer comparison I've made: ruclips.net/video/JERNrggNNtI/видео.html
It's the first speaker in the comparison clips.
Excellent video! V30 for sure.
Awesome video, man! Thanks for that!! \m/
Cool hot riffs ! Tone sounds like my Friedman rig
I am always about Vintage 30's but I do like the G12H-75 Creamback as well. Would like to hear the Redback too.
A type and t75s me like the most
I love this demo! the riffs are great!
Amazing comparison thanks.
Man the thing with this is IMO - THEY ALL sound good in their own way. At some point you just gotta decide what tone and sound YOU want. Ask yourself musically/sonically what you're trying to achieve, and does that speaker or combination do it?
Vtype and creamback 65 my favorites
Those 65w Creambacks sound killer
Great comparison, great sound quality! The riff is pretty good too, allowed me to check out the oomph, and the drive, and the brightness, and body of each speaker. One of the best comparisons I've seen on youtube, great job! Btw, could you give us some more info on the gear you used? Thanks.
+Barukh Thank you!
+Barukh EVH 5153 amp (channel three used) and the cabinet is an own made 1x12 cab. Microphone used is an SM57.
+TecksMusic Thanks for doing this. What pickups did you used? Emgs?
Yes, that's an LTD Ken Susi model with EMG 81-7 in the bridge that I used.
+TecksMusic is there any difference in tone between 8 ohms and 16 ??
Perfect comparison, much appreciated. Can't imagine the time and effort it took.
What are your favourites then?
I like both of the Creambacks (M65, H75), the Cream (alnico) is fantastic too (but not in this video). The G12H30 + Lynchback are great too.
Finally, someone with real vintage Celestion speakers and not China-made garbage, Bravo my man!
This demo comparison is a little TOO good. They ALL sound great!
Thanks! That means a lot to me because I've spent a sh*tload of time on amp settings and mic placement for each recording.
what do you think about Creamback M65 and T75 combo? T75 has body and quick definition, M65 has that greenbacky midrange cut
I've tried all kinds of speaker brands and models. But I was always going back to the Cele V30. They're by far the best speaker for my style (stoner rock/hard rock).
It is definitely one of the best speakers out there. Did you try one of the creamback speakers yet? I honestly like the G12M-65 Creamback even more then V30's, so perhaps you will like them too.
V30 and G12M-65 makes a great pair despite the volume difference. We all know that V30's has that upper mid spike that many people either love or hate. M65 has a lot of mids as well but in different frequencies. Together they make a combination that has nice mid bump instead of mid spike. Thick but roaring and cutting but not piercing. M65's also add some "brown" character to the sound.
Even that I haven't tried it yet I am positively sure that V30's and G12H-75's make equally good pair as well. With a little less brown sound though
Does the M have a lots of mids?? Sounds like a moderate scoop to me??
I think a 4x12 cab with two celestion v types on the top and two celestion lynch backs on the bottom would be the sickest ever.
excellent video, greetings from mexico
Thanks! greetings from Belgium
G12H-75 Creamback is the winner :)
I want all of them xD
There are just so different, and sound can be great with each one :3
I think a pairing of 2 Creamback 75's with 2 V30's in a 4x12 would sound excellent, maybe switch one of the 4 speakers for a Creamback 65 for some extra low end
Yeah man! 🔥
Boy, the G12T-75 and G12H blew me away.
G12H Anniversary and V30s for the win
Same
I've got a mix of both v30 and anniversary in 2x12 cab. And it's sounding awesome
I was Surprised I liked the A type. I have never even looked at that speaker before. And the g12-75 Creamback
Can someone please help me and let me know if any of these are greenbacks? I’m interested in buying a cabinet. I’ve always only sought after v30s. The guy has greenbacks in his and I can find no demos of an engl cabinet with them. V60s sounded brutal in that model for modern metal but I prefer a more rounded tone. If this is what greenbacks sound like I might actually be interested.
Get Creambacks people. My M65 loaded 4x12 was the backline for 4 bands from grunge to modern metal and they all sounded massive through it
Heya man, love the speaker comparisons, but I noticed there's no Hempbacks or Alnico Blues? I'd love to hear what those sound like.
Hi, thanks! Yes, would be lovely to try those out as well, but I don't have any plans on buying any new speakers soon.
I have the Peavey Invective cab 2x12 (creamback &v30) w/bias rack.......insane
12H-creamback was my favorite. Just bought a 5150 iconic and have heard that the speaker in it is chinese made like the rest of it which is fine, chinas come a long way since the 90s crap they used to build, but if it doesnt appease what im looking for, im on the hunt for a speaker that will hold all the different tones it canthrow at it. Any suggestions?
P.s when I wrote this, the speakers on a FedEx truck on the way to my house. Getting it tomorrow.
@@markstewart8171 The best all around speaker I used so far is the Celestion Cream, which is an alnico. Unfortunately, quite expensive.
If it obligó has included the 70 eigthy for comparison purposes, it is a stock speaker for lots if amps