he missed a lot on qbs. in the last 5 years, he had dwayne haskins and josh rosen at their clear no.1s. he used to be a DB. his DBS evaluations are pretty good.
So do I, but Richardson comparable to Donovan McNabb? And Robert Griffin should be the last one talking about size doesn't matter when it comes to durability.
CJ Stroud is the clear number 1 and ik we don’t look to hard into Pro Days bt his was exceptional, not a flaw whatsoever and the way he talks and says is what NFL teams are looking for not to mention I think he fits the era tht the Panthers are trying to go it’s not a rebuild it’s a retooling for this team u give them a year or 2 they’ll be neck and neck as far as trying to win the South against the Saints I think 1-3 are already set up 4 is when the draft stars
@@JerryJ13 ik thts why I said pro days are kinda stupid to me in my opinion I think it just gets a lot of these college players outta bed and gives them something to do a great pro day proves nothing at the end of the day it’s simply about who do u really want
@moshegoldberg9685 bt your saying it like it’s a bad thing Bryce Young is not the best QB in this class and thts clear cut and sadly u have the time to wait on Anthony Richardson this new owner the Panthers have is desperate thts why u go CJ Stroud he’s clear cut the best QB in this draft bt I think long term success is gonna come from Richardson with time and patience for the team tht takes him
It's soooo Amazing to me how the national media just act like The Texans don't exist.. Like we're not picking 2nd overall. Like we didn't just land the hottest coach in the league. It ain't been all good in Houston. BUT IT AINT ALL BAD EITHER. WERE ON THE UP & UP
Ok when you look at Bryce and his playing style, it is absolutely a factor in size. The jalen hurts comparison is false, jalen is bodybuilder strong and can take hits. Bryce Young isn’t Tua or the arm talent of Kyler Murray
Louis is correct. I used to think Tim Hasselbeck just disliked Cam Newton, but now it’s clear that he just wants to see the Panthers FAIL. Of course they should draft Stroud. Before RG3 was drafted, I said he wouldn’t last long in the NFL because of his “spaghetti legs,” even though he was 6’2, and I’m not going to stop saying the same about 5’10, 190 (playing weight) Bryce Young when he is literally smaller than Panthers RBs Miles Sanders (5'11, 212) and Chuba Hubbard (6'1, 201). It’s not just about height, it’s about build and stature. Kyler Murray and Russ Wilson are both built like muscle cars. Bryce is built like a Miati.
could say the exact same for Bryce, so that dosent really take the debate anywhere. Bryce also did it with his top 2 receivers out. One hurt in game and one hurt the game before. I know Ingiba was out but he was out all season. Its not the same as having them taken away mid game. Both great qbs tho.
As a Card fan, Kyler hasn’t played a whole season since he been on the league and fades at the end of every year because he can’t stay healthy and Bryce is smaller. I hate to say it but they can’t hold up at that size.
His worst injury was non contact. Either your injury prone or not. Carson Wentz, Andrew Luck, Sam Bradford. They all were prototypical QBs and still couldn’t stay healthy.
@@1987bch I don't think the human brain cares if you are injury prone or not when your head gets bounced off the turf. You are getting concussed, period. Being larger means you can resist the force trying to smash your brains in. When everyone else is saying size matters and you are saying otherwise, you've got a big clue that perhaps your childish view of the world might be wrong.
@Moshe Goldberg okay I thought I was tripping bc sports media making it seem like he was playing with trash. Wasn't Robinson the RB rookie for Washington Commanders who was shot at beginning of the season in the backfield for Bama. The WR for Detroit who was Injured in the bowl game and another WR.
Sure hope this is the draft order!!! Let Carter slide down to my Lions!!! Making Hutch and him possibly the best young D-line in the league in the league 🔥
Everyone says look at the tape, but then they don't watch all of Stroud's tape. Stroud has showed the playmaking ability throughout the season. He just didn't do it 5 times a game like during Georgia because he didn't have to. Stroud was only sacked 8 times during the season and 4 times during Georgia alone. But to everyone that is his best game.
Tim is way off on his "it's safer for quarterbacks" take. They may get more protection in the pocket, but outside and sometimes inside the pocket are guys like Myles Garrett and Frank Clark and TJ Watt and those guys will absolutely mash somebody under 200 lbs.
im so over will levis even being mentioned for the top qbs bro. how do you lead off an argument saying oh dont even look at the tape from this past year because he was disappointing..... like what and why would you put trust in anybody like that to begin with
@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 CJ Stroud lost 2 1st round draft picks and his best returning receiver didn’t play all year and both running backs were injured.
@@e.h3286 I’m not even sure why you’d bring up Stroud when talking about Bryce lmao y’all Stroud guys are funny. Anyways CJ still had the best receiver in the nation, who’s probably going top 3 in the 2024 draft. Also egbuka will probably be a first rounder as well and he’s seen as the second or third best WR in the country. Ohio state was probably the best OL in the country. Stover did more than Latu last year, and Miyan played basically the entire year getting 6.4 ypc and ran for twice as many TDs as Gibbs. What is there to cry about? 😂😂
@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 Why I bring up Stroud is the same reason why the commentators brought up Stroud. That’s what the debate is about goofy. It’s no way you can convince me that Alabama is that much worse than Ohio State. The O-line was not the best. It was Michigan’s o-line btw.
@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 Miyan Williams didn’t play the whole year he definitely sat out some games and Tre Henderson was the starter not Miyan anyway. And he was hurt too
@@mysterieswithcalib516 Texans have added pieces this off season I think that’s what he is referring to regarding the line. I think it will be very good as well.
Why is everyone talking like Carolina is the model franchise to go to what have they won what did frank reich do in Indy they getting a lot of praise how’s Sam darnold work out?
Nah. Kyler has probably done more harm than Baker if you consider both the injuries and money involved. Kyler consistently gets banged up towards the middle/end of the season and his production falls. He negotiated a massive new contract then got hurt for the rest of the season.
For me it's Dr. Stroud. I call him doctor because he's a surgeon in the pocket and that football is his scalpel and he'll cut your defense with the precision of a neurosurgeon.
that whats great about the NFL you reeally not 100% sure ones going first down till the last minute . NBA we knew victor was no1 in 2023 draft since last summer lol
Panthers) cj stroud Texans) Bryce young Colts*) will Levis Cardinals) will Anderson Seahawks) Anthony Richardson Lions) tyree Wilson Raiders) jalen carter Falcons) Christian Gonzalez Bears) Peter skoronski Eagles) Devon Witherspoon
I find Louis Riddick to be reasonable most of the time when it comes to football.
he missed a lot on qbs. in the last 5 years, he had dwayne haskins and josh rosen at their clear no.1s. he used to be a DB. his DBS evaluations are pretty good.
@@dodu8281 right, it’s a reason he doesn’t have a front office job
So do I, but Richardson comparable to Donovan McNabb? And Robert Griffin should be the last one talking about size doesn't matter when it comes to durability.
It would be a great thing of beauty to see the Panthers vs Texans in a superbowl like 3 years from now with these two QBs starting.
Fr that would be awesome
Depends when the game is if it’s week 1-5 dalton will prob be starting
This is crazy… ESPN has Bryce Young as the underdog QB and Fox has CJ Stroud as the underdog QB
CJ Stroud is the clear number 1 and ik we don’t look to hard into Pro Days bt his was exceptional, not a flaw whatsoever and the way he talks and says is what NFL teams are looking for not to mention I think he fits the era tht the Panthers are trying to go it’s not a rebuild it’s a retooling for this team u give them a year or 2 they’ll be neck and neck as far as trying to win the South against the Saints I think 1-3 are already set up 4 is when the draft stars
I agree that the Panthers should take CJ. But last time we looked at a Pro Day as a differentiator, Zach Wilson went 2nd 😅
@@JerryJ13 ik thts why I said pro days are kinda stupid to me in my opinion I think it just gets a lot of these college players outta bed and gives them something to do a great pro day proves nothing at the end of the day it’s simply about who do u really want
@moshegoldberg9685 bt your saying it like it’s a bad thing Bryce Young is not the best QB in this class and thts clear cut and sadly u have the time to wait on Anthony Richardson this new owner the Panthers have is desperate thts why u go CJ Stroud he’s clear cut the best QB in this draft bt I think long term success is gonna come from Richardson with time and patience for the team tht takes him
What about now?
CJ is a "ball placement specialist" and thats all i want from my QB. Draft him Carolina!! KEEPPOUNDING
Is that ur moms motto too?
😂 you wish blame tepper
@@Souleater_4242 I do
RG3 is a good announcer, analyst, etc. He's much better than most athletes who go to TV
Totally agree. Very articulate and obviously very credible since he played and was a phenom at one point. Great pickup for ESPN.
CJ = Panthers
Bryce = Texans
One can only hope
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you tried! CJ is a Texan!!
@@ozkarin07 Bro really? It's been 9 months and I'm already over this...I'm fine with CJ
KEEP POUNDING!!!
Did they not see the Tennessee game when dude was getting speared in the head basically every play
It's soooo Amazing to me how the national media just act like The Texans don't exist.. Like we're not picking 2nd overall. Like we didn't just land the hottest coach in the league. It ain't been all good in Houston. BUT IT AINT ALL BAD EITHER. WERE ON THE UP & UP
Bingo… specially when Jeff had the nerve to say if Bryce is available at 2 then a team might trade up to get him from the Texans???? 🤦🏾♂️
Ok when you look at Bryce and his playing style, it is absolutely a factor in size. The jalen hurts comparison is false, jalen is bodybuilder strong and can take hits. Bryce Young isn’t Tua or the arm talent of Kyler Murray
Louis is correct. I used to think Tim Hasselbeck just disliked Cam Newton, but now it’s clear that he just wants to see the Panthers FAIL. Of course they should draft Stroud. Before RG3 was drafted, I said he wouldn’t last long in the NFL because of his “spaghetti legs,” even though he was 6’2, and I’m not going to stop saying the same about 5’10, 190 (playing weight) Bryce Young when he is literally smaller than Panthers RBs Miles Sanders (5'11, 212) and Chuba Hubbard (6'1, 201). It’s not just about height, it’s about build and stature. Kyler Murray and Russ Wilson are both built like muscle cars. Bryce is built like a Miati.
What CJ did against GA was amazing. If he can do that against GA he can win his divison with ease.
could say the exact same for Bryce, so that dosent really take the debate anywhere. Bryce also did it with his top 2 receivers out. One hurt in game and one hurt the game before. I know Ingiba was out but he was out all season. Its not the same as having them taken away mid game. Both great qbs tho.
What CJ did for 1 game is what Bryce does EVERY SINGLE GAME! We are going to look back and many ppl will feel silly about this.
@@desi8the thing is Bryce does have the arm, size of a CJ
WITH weapons around him no doubt he will
BY stan's sounding so salty in the comment section😂😂😂
As a Card fan, Kyler hasn’t played a whole season since he been on the league and fades at the end of every year because he can’t stay healthy and Bryce is smaller. I hate to say it but they can’t hold up at that size.
His worst injury was non contact. Either your injury prone or not. Carson Wentz, Andrew Luck, Sam Bradford. They all were prototypical QBs and still couldn’t stay healthy.
@@1987bch People die in wrecks while wearing seatbelts so why wear a seatbelt. Your logic is flawless.
@@doublecrossedswine112 that has nothing to do with what I said. Either you’re injury prone or not!
@@1987bch I don't think the human brain cares if you are injury prone or not when your head gets bounced off the turf. You are getting concussed, period. Being larger means you can resist the force trying to smash your brains in. When everyone else is saying size matters and you are saying otherwise, you've got a big clue that perhaps your childish view of the world might be wrong.
@@doublecrossedswine112 i assume you just started watching sports because you’re missing my point about durability.
Hold up didn’t Young have WR go in the first round of the draft last year when he won the Heisman?
@Moshe Goldberg okay I thought I was tripping bc sports media making it seem like he was playing with trash. Wasn't Robinson the RB rookie for Washington Commanders who was shot at beginning of the season in the backfield for Bama. The WR for Detroit who was Injured in the bowl game and another WR.
@Moshe Goldberg okay I knew I wasn't seeing things.
Sure hope this is the draft order!!! Let Carter slide down to my Lions!!! Making Hutch and him possibly the best young D-line in the league in the league 🔥
Everyone says look at the tape, but then they don't watch all of Stroud's tape. Stroud has showed the playmaking ability throughout the season. He just didn't do it 5 times a game like during Georgia because he didn't have to. Stroud was only sacked 8 times during the season and 4 times during Georgia alone. But to everyone that is his best game.
Riddick going to be a GM one day, enjoy his insight now.
CJ is QB1
RGIII really funny asf lmao .
Tim is way off on his "it's safer for quarterbacks" take. They may get more protection in the pocket, but outside and sometimes inside the pocket are guys like Myles Garrett and Frank Clark and TJ Watt and those guys will absolutely mash somebody under 200 lbs.
I hope and pray Bryce young drop to the Colts we Want him for next 15years
Yup wish the cowboys could get him. Very accurate. Takes care of the ball Houstons getting a special q.b
CJ Stroud is that due
That didn't stop Tua from getting hammered
Awesome
And with the first pick of the NFL Draft the Carolina Panthers select absolutely no one and traded the Pick for Lamar Jackson. 😂
As a ravens fan I would love this!
It's really going to be a toss-up between All these quarterbacks 🍿 going into the draft 👀
I think cj will be the best in this draft
Texans, get CJ
im so over will levis even being mentioned for the top qbs bro. how do you lead off an argument saying oh dont even look at the tape from this past year because he was disappointing..... like what and why would you put trust in anybody like that to begin with
It's up in the air where he decides to go really, it's gonna be a tricky situation so any football fan really pay close attention the next few weeks
ESPN has made 10 videos of this same topic the past week. They have nothing else to talk about.
They're going to pick CJ Stroud, pretty easy to predict
I feel bad whoever drafts Anthony Richardson in the top 5
Are we really creating a narrative that Alabama didn’t have talented receivers and Bryce didn’t have help? 😂
I mean his best receiver was his RB and a day 3 TE for Bama standards that’s terrible lol
@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 CJ Stroud lost 2 1st round draft picks and his best returning receiver didn’t play all year and both running backs were injured.
@@e.h3286 I’m not even sure why you’d bring up Stroud when talking about Bryce lmao y’all Stroud guys are funny.
Anyways CJ still had the best receiver in the nation, who’s probably going top 3 in the 2024 draft. Also egbuka will probably be a first rounder as well and he’s seen as the second or third best WR in the country. Ohio state was probably the best OL in the country. Stover did more than Latu last year, and Miyan played basically the entire year getting 6.4 ypc and ran for twice as many TDs as Gibbs. What is there to cry about? 😂😂
@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 Why I bring up Stroud is the same reason why the commentators brought up Stroud. That’s what the debate is about goofy. It’s no way you can convince me that Alabama is that much worse than Ohio State. The O-line was not the best. It was Michigan’s o-line btw.
@@jamesharden3timedpoy466 Miyan Williams didn’t play the whole year he definitely sat out some games and Tre Henderson was the starter not Miyan anyway. And he was hurt too
Take either because of what they've shown in big games. Their losses come from the kicker
And RG3 the guy who has his career derailed by a hit to the knee is saying size and being able to weather the hit is secondary is comical.
Man Bryce is not going passed Houston that's facts
Somebody pops got some explaining to do lmao
Nah Bryce Young would fit more better with the Texans. They have an incredible O Line that will protect him and extend his career
How’s that make sense when they had barely any wins and the Panthers were 1 game away from the playoffs with an assistant finishing the season?
Houston didn’t protect anything last year
@@mysterieswithcalib516 Texans have added pieces this off season I think that’s what he is referring to regarding the line. I think it will be very good as well.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 I'm glad that didn't happen! CJ is a Texan and taking my Texans to the playoffs!
Why is everyone talking like Carolina is the model franchise to go to what have they won what did frank reich do in Indy they getting a lot of praise how’s Sam darnold work out?
I seriously thought these guys were the same ppl
Baker ruined small guy #1 picks
Nah. Kyler has probably done more harm than Baker if you consider both the injuries and money involved. Kyler consistently gets banged up towards the middle/end of the season and his production falls. He negotiated a massive new contract then got hurt for the rest of the season.
@@fxredlyte true!
It’s simple and easy. Will Anderson Jr
I would not take Levis or Richardson in the 1st round I would take a DE and draft Caleb or Drake Maye next year
Lmao odds are you can't go round drafting qb top 5 be as they never fail..
For me it's Dr. Stroud. I call him doctor because he's a surgeon in the pocket and that football is his scalpel and he'll cut your defense with the precision of a neurosurgeon.
Just another hater about to be wrong when Houston has a better record after all this talking.
Eagles been “thriving” since the departure of Louis Reddick
CJ is looking good. Haven't seen Bryce in awhile. I am not even sure with Bryce at 2. He needed to throw.
Definitely not a toss up 😂😂😂
Ch stroud is better than Bryce young though by far. Bruce young is really really terrible. Cj stroud is barely terrible.
:They picked young and stroud 😀😀
Kyler Short Too He Went #1
@Moshe Goldberg true true he still short and stays injured tho so I say take him #1
CJS.
Take anderson jr 1st
Cj
that whats great about the NFL you reeally not 100% sure ones going first down till the last minute . NBA we knew victor was no1 in 2023 draft since last summer lol
Well Bryce Young in My opinion facts He's a Stud .....
They always talk about big quarterbacks just like women like big D’S.
Chris Sims is probably watching this with his fist clinched screaming Hendon Hooker is better.
RG 3 is annoying
He's awesome
😂
Anthony Richardson is my number 1 pick
😂😂 he’s horrible bro
@@AntBoxingEdit come back 4 years from now
@@Ali-xs6bx I defo will
I’m going w Bryce because he’s more elusive player than Cj , can throw on the run , dude got a lil bit of pat mahomes in him just smaller
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 are you sure?! CJ is him and a Texan thanks to God!
@@ozkarin07 yea I would’ve been fired as a gm I got that pick wrong Cj is him but I think Bryce might still be nice
Bryce lived on 2 minutes 3rd and forever type of situation all year last year!! He’s the #1 QB in this years draft
Because he couldn’t get it done on 1st and 2nd down…
@@e.h3286 say u didn't watch a single Bama game without saying u didn't 🙄
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 he did go #1 but the better QB went #2 and has my Texans in the playoffs!!
Mel Kipper is a joke. He stays putting Will Levis in the top three. He's not better than Anthony Richardson.
Honestly as mid as Levis is he’s done more in college than AR
Both Levi’s and Richardson are not good
Neither. They both suck at football Stetson Bennett by far should go number 1
Panthers) cj stroud
Texans) Bryce young
Colts*) will Levis
Cardinals) will Anderson
Seahawks) Anthony Richardson
Lions) tyree Wilson
Raiders) jalen carter
Falcons) Christian Gonzalez
Bears) Peter skoronski
Eagles) Devon Witherspoon
Wrong
All 4 not going in the top 5 guaranteed. There are other better players to pick before some of these QBs
Bryce young don't care what anyone says
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 are you sure?! CJ is him and has his team in the playoffs!!
First
Panthers 🐆 make young the #1 draft pick. You heard 👂 it here first.!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 sure did! I'm glad 2 cause CJ is him and taking my Texans to the playoffs!!
Bruce young is so overrated it’s insane.
How?
@@kedricmanson9873how about now
A bunch of goofys 🤡