my friend once said, “i only draw with a pen because when you mess up, it teaches you to work with what you’ve got and grow with your mistakes.” and that just sticks in my head all the time.
Agreed.(: I' m watching this in 2020 though.😂 If any future Drawing Wiff Waffles lovers see this comment in 2021 or later please say so! (If thats still her channel name)😉
Ry I think the reason the scribble technique looks so good is a combination of looking fuller, and people picking out whichever messy lines look the best to them.
My sketching technique is the skeleton and the scribble mix together. Honestly, I usually use go with the flow technique for getting ideas for my drawing, not so much with sketching itself because it is hard to control and get all the proportions right which I won't even bother using it if that was a finish artwork (however I use it to draw head shots tho XD) The skeleton help me get proportions right and the scribble is my favorite, it's look so messy but natural.
When I was a little kid I would always use number 3, go with the flow. It used to be very fun and I enjoyed a lot just drawing, but then I would end up with giant heads or disparate legs and arms LOL. Then I learned number 1 and my proportions improved a lot, but my drawings would be very stiff and two dimensional. Then I would sometimes try number 2 but my drawings would end up being a sketchy mess, with no way for me to make out a hand out of a mess of lines. Then I gave up out of an stupid sense of perfectionism. I should really go back to drawing, I used to enjoy it a lot. Thx for this video.
Is it weird that I think her voice sounds like moriah Elizabeth? It’s so beautiful and happy! Edit: has anyone even seen this? Hahahha Edit 2: thanks for the 2 likes! XD (3)
Thankyou for making this video! I used to only know the "go with the flow" not even knowing that it was possible to do other ways , my new favorite one is the scribble techneque.
The orange one looks the most relaxed and realistic and the blue and purple one to me looks like there's a model there trying to look fabulous 😄 so one like point to the Orange one.
WOW! this helped so much! The method I use now is the scribble method! It was tough since I am a slight perfectionist, but it soon came easy! Thank you so much, waffles!
I am too much of a perfectionist to go with the flow, which is weird because the scribble technique works for me, well it isn’t the best technique for me (it is hard for me to get the right shape)but it works better than the go with the flow technique. Also, THANKS SO MUCH.....THIS REALLY HELPS. THIS IS THE VIDEO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR...THIS IS HUUUGGGGEEE HELP(not over-selling it) you always help me become a better artist. You inspire me and encourage me to work hard
+DrawingWiffWaffles I watched avatar as a kid on TV with commercials on a hotel TV but I remember they lost their Buffalo in one episode correct? sorry if I spoiled it
Yes! That is correct, Appa went missing and Aang basically lost his shit xD They found him though and it's a Bison not buffalo (Dont mind me being a smart ass)
I remember my first technique for 3D characters used to be from this “how to draw comics the marvel way” book by Stan Lee (the creator of marvel), where you break things down into three basic shapes: the cylinder, the sphere and the cube (or box). It never really worked for me when drawing human poses, though. And then I found this video, which I found very helpful, and now I am happily improving using the “circles and lines” technique. Thank you so much Rin!
Thank you so much. Using the first techniqe made me do much better at drawing, I drew Mikasa from Attack On Titan with it. It turned out really really, good. Thank you, you even inspired me to keep doing what I am with drawing. Thank you...
I like the scribble technique and the 3rd technique because it lets my imagination be more creative when I draw my creatures. when you use the first one your always keeping to those boundaries at least that’s how I feel.
You've never gone to a class and you're this good!? That's crazy! I could never draw in different styles like you did here, and you've never even gone to a class! My respect for you has gone WAY up!
I try and find good tutorials for me, I am not that experienced artists so when I try and find tutorials like these, I guess it helps me, I don't really do as many tutorials because I cant even draw lines straight, I cant even use it with a ruler right as well, I'm really glad I found this because it helped me.
You sound like my art teacher...I wish you were my art teacher (: You put so much emotion into your words and everything art related, we love your passion 😍😉
I NEEDED THIS VIDEO AND I AM SO GLAD I FOUND IT. I always tried to use the skeleton, plus some other thing I found bc I'm trying to figure out how bodies are shaped bc people are hard to draw for me, but I wasn't very comfortable with it. This gives a variety of ways to go about it, and now I can try out different things and see what I actually like
I generally scribble to get the pose, then use the skeleton technique to add the specifics of the clothing, outfit, equipment etc I find that the "flow" technique is something that comes from just being very familiar with what you draw, to the point you barely need to rely on sketching it. For instance, if you draw a LOT of guns/mechs, you eventually get such a feel for it you can draw it almost without thinking or carefully constructing a sketch. I tend to view sketching as training wheel. If you draw something enough, there'll eventually come a day when you can draw it without needing to sketch it first.
omg!!!!! you helped me a lot!!!!!!!!!! i was the worst at drawing girls and boys!! but now I'm the princess ( not saying queen because still not the best) of drawing!!!!!
Two and four were the best ones in my opinion. I love your ideas . . . I will definitely have to try your different methods to see which one suits me best.
They add color. That's usually the only reason artists use them; it's a change from basic, boring gray. Although, some colors will not show up when you scan them. So if you were to say, draw line art to color digitally, you could use one of those colors for the preliminary sketch, and then go over it with a pen, and you would only see the pen work on the computer.
Oh my actual goodness, I was looking at videos to help me and my failing art and found this. I love drawingwithwaffles and this was so looong ago! She’s so good even then, although she has gotten better. But omlllll she was so young and clueless and now she’s professional Also I kinda forgot why I came to watch this video cause I was so amazed lol
I use a mix of the skeletal and go with the flow techniques because I use the skeletal technique for the head and hands and then I use the go with the flow technique for everything else! 😃
Waffles making it look so easy.. Me trying to draw: AHHHH SOO HARDD! Torso looks like a wordrobe! Head looks like a pumpkin! Arms looks like a broom! How you do dat? 😰😰 Edit: OMG! thank you so much for 10 likes! I've never gotten this much before!
i use the scribble and skeleton techniques the most. the skeleton shapes help me draw bodies, and the scribble technique keeps things fluid. i personally like the extra lines and density from scribbling. i use “go with the flow” most when i want to draw mindlessly (mostly facial features), but those drawings are usually disproportionate and unfinished.
Thank You so much for this video. I learnt drawing sketches using shapes. It worked pretty well for me. But 2 months ago I met with an accident and now my right arm isn't working well. Doctors say it'd take 2 months more for it to work properly. I can't live without drawing but it was difficult drawing with my less dominant hand where your scribble sketch technique really came in handy. Thanks again.
Btw, for the beginners I would recommend not to say terms like guidelines, I like to call my sketches a gesture lines or skeleton foundation. The sketch method used in this video is pretty useful except for the first one which often times used for amateur artists. The second method is actually used for building the gesture foundation while the third one is to refine your drawings better. Fourth one depending on how fast you work will often times be good for thumbnail sketches. But definitely, for starters I would recommend looking into life drawing course to get a better sense to have a proportion, composition, and any art foundation to be set before you move on to your real style of drawing.
The way I sketch: I draw a circle for the head, then I shape out the head and body without guidelines (Like the "go with the flow" technique), I add the face in last, and then I add tiny little details and fix up the anatomy a bit.
The quality of this video is jaw dropping.
Haha lol, still amazing tho! :)
DrawingWiffWaffles We love a throwback queen !!
*_QUALITY_*
Better than I could do
DrawingWiffWaffles honestly way better than I could ever do lol, also, do you have any tips for drawing hair?
Your voice reminds me of Joy from Inside Out. I love listening to you talk!
Shipwreck Samantha IKR! XD
SAME
Shipwreck Samantha sane
Shipwreck Samantha *same
yessssssss i agree
my friend once said, “i only draw with a pen because when you mess up, it teaches you to work with what you’ve got and grow with your mistakes.” and that just sticks in my head all the time.
ɪ ᴅʀᴀᴡ ᴡɪᴛʜ ᴀ ʙʟᴜᴇ ᴘᴇɴ ᴀɴᴅ ɪᴛ ʟᴏᴏᴋs ɴɪᴄᴇ ʙᴜᴛ ᴡʜᴇɴ ɪᴛs ᴘᴇɴᴄɪʟ ɪᴛ ʟᴏᴏᴋs ʙᴀᴅ..
I love that!
@@thatoneravenclaw417 I clicked translate to English and it made the comment say sss…
@@charlesrodriguez7984 ya it's weird lol
4 years late, WHO CARES YOUR AMAZING!!!
I'm 6 years late...
@@sugarice72 Same here
Agreed.(: I' m watching this in 2020 though.😂 If any future Drawing Wiff Waffles lovers see this comment in 2021 or later please say so! (If thats still her channel name)😉
6 years
im six years late lmao
Something ugly, can become something beautiful.
- A beautiful quote from Waffles :P
You mean i can turn beautiful?
Itz wizard Fatimah HAHA I WAS AB TO SAY THAT OMG AHAHAHA
@@justdx916 😂
ABBY PLAYS PKMN, MLP, AJ, MORE!
man didn’t know i was beautiful.
"wiff waffles" awwww that's such a cute name
IS IT JUST ME OR DO YOU KIND OF SOUND ALOT LIKE JOY FROM INSIDE OUT LOL
Bailey Channy I KNOWWW she's so animated and happy I love her voice so muchh
She totally does!
I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BUT NOW THAT I'M THINKING? Y E A
I just noticed that, and I can't stop thinking about it!
See to me she sounds like Dory from Finding Nemo 😅
I didn't even realize that this was our Waffles at first! 2014, wow you've improved so much!
tbh i find it hard for me to use guide lines sometimes xD
same😂
sasucchi95 I thought it was just me with that problem.
sasucchi95 SAME
Nope not for me I round a new universe wheni used it
Same
A fun fact about drawing a person is your elbow is inline with your bellybutton
o wait i just realized that
*me tries*
I don’t know whether to hate you or love you for this. Like how come I never knew this but it’s also really helpful whaaaaa
:0
Omg thanks
I like the scribble, but I really just use a little bit of everything at different times. I don't know haha, I just draw.
lol ikr
Natalie Gardner #relatable
same
I subSCRIBBLED 😂😏😅
+GgVanderM I laughed harder than I should have at this. Haha
I applaud you
@@drawingwiffwaffles you should call your subsribers subscribbles its a great idea whovians_rule
Budum pshshhshshshhh
Yeas a fan of joana ceddia/John cena
I'm a perfectionist and the scribble technique is my go to. It makes it look fuller
I completely agree!
Exactly what I do
me too!
Ry I think the reason the scribble technique looks so good is a combination of looking fuller, and people picking out whichever messy lines look the best to them.
Me too
THE OUTFIT THAT THE GIRL IS WEARING IS LITERALLY THE EXACT THING I'M WEARING! That's so random and cool! Love this! Love you. Love everything. Lol.
My sketching technique is the skeleton and the scribble mix together. Honestly, I usually use go with the flow technique for getting ideas for my drawing, not so much with sketching itself because it is hard to control and get all the proportions right which I won't even bother using it if that was a finish artwork (however I use it to draw head shots tho XD) The skeleton help me get proportions right and the scribble is my favorite, it's look so messy but natural.
Same lol I make the skeleton then say F*CKIT! And scribble because it's my notebook XD
Giao Nguyen I really only use go with the flow in school when im bored
Me: 6 years late...YOUR ART IS STILL AWSOME!!!
When I was a little kid I would always use number 3, go with the flow. It used to be very fun and I enjoyed a lot just drawing, but then I would end up with giant heads or disparate legs and arms LOL. Then I learned number 1 and my proportions improved a lot, but my drawings would be very stiff and two dimensional. Then I would sometimes try number 2 but my drawings would end up being a sketchy mess, with no way for me to make out a hand out of a mess of lines. Then I gave up out of an stupid sense of perfectionism. I should really go back to drawing, I used to enjoy it a lot.
Thx for this video.
Selim Nazar you should totally go back to drawing! Always do whatever you love
Is it weird that I think her voice sounds like moriah Elizabeth? It’s so beautiful and happy! Edit: has anyone even seen this? Hahahha Edit 2: thanks for the 2 likes! XD (3)
Here's how I do the scribble technique I close my Eyes and start scribbling then I start looking for a shape I create a beautiful picture out of that.
Oh by the way I open my eyes after the scribble
+Im Falling On The Disco With My Chemical Romances *your
+Im Falling On The Disco With My Chemical Romances I truly think it is XD
Me 22222
How to get out of a art block!
Im here in 2019 and Rin your art style has change so much! You are such a inspiration to me! Thank you so much for making my days better!
Xoxo,
Ava
I am in 2020
so sounds exactly like Joy from "Inside out"
uncanny.
Not really... I can't see the Amy polher in her voice
Thankyou for making this video! I used to only know the "go with the flow" not even knowing that it was possible to do other ways , my new favorite one is the scribble techneque.
The orange one looks the most relaxed and realistic and the blue and purple one to me looks like there's a model there trying to look fabulous 😄 so one like point to the Orange one.
April Gripenberg haha FABULOUS!! :)
Nyeh x3
WOW! this helped so much! The method I use now is the scribble method!
It was tough since I am a slight perfectionist, but it soon came easy!
Thank you so much, waffles!
If i have artist block, I begin to just make circles in pen until my brain thinks it's something.
Rachel Dams-Miano same! I do like random shapes until I'm like, hey... That could be something!
rachel dams, that's brilliant.
same XD
I think that's go with the flow 😊it's fun to use
I would try this but I’d be making circles for years😂
I'm here from 20/20 and The content of this video is still really good. Plus seeing how far, you have come from 5 years ago to now is like crazy.💗💗💗😌
I use the scribble method the most 😅 I'm generally a really messy artist
Realmkeeper same....😥
I know this has nothing to do with the video but the girl starts to look like Sayori from DOKI DOKI literature club 😂
lmao i was thinking the same thing xD
Same
Omg wait yessss
They look like they could be four athletic quadruplets named Kitty(1) Clarissa(2), Abigal(3) and Brittney(4).
Vancouver Williams you just gave me insparation to draw them, thank you. I was in a creative block
@Natalie Slettevoll Langlo
You good?
I am too much of a perfectionist to go with the flow, which is weird because the scribble technique works for me, well it isn’t the best technique for me (it is hard for me to get the right shape)but it works better than the go with the flow technique.
Also, THANKS SO MUCH.....THIS REALLY HELPS. THIS IS THE VIDEO I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR...THIS IS HUUUGGGGEEE HELP(not over-selling it)
you always help me become a better artist. You inspire me and encourage me to work hard
I love the way you draw hands and feet
Elle Y. Chillaco Sanchez thanks!
I use the first method the most tbh. It helps so much and it's easy to fix at the early stages.
WAIT YOU WATCH AVATAR
THATS IT IM SUBSCRIBING
Well thank you! Check out my avatar speedpaints! Or check out my instagram I did a 30 day avatar drawing challenge.
+DrawingWiffWaffles I watched avatar as a kid on TV with commercials on a hotel TV but I remember they lost their Buffalo in one episode correct? sorry if I spoiled it
Yes! That is correct, Appa went missing and Aang basically lost his shit xD They found him though and it's a Bison not buffalo (Dont mind me being a smart ass)
E
Erin Ramirez I agree E
I really liked scribbes and mixture of everything when I draw. Thanks Waffles!
All of these are amazing, you are a great artist! *Subscribed*
Thanks so much!!!
@@drawingwiffwaffles i subed too!
I remember my first technique for 3D characters used to be from this “how to draw comics the marvel way” book by Stan Lee (the creator of marvel), where you break things down into three basic shapes: the cylinder, the sphere and the cube (or box). It never really worked for me when drawing human poses, though. And then I found this video, which I found very helpful, and now I am happily improving using the “circles and lines” technique. Thank you so much Rin!
I'm one of those go with the flow artists ☹️😊
Me too! Haha :D
I'm all!
I'm currently go with the flow but I REALLY want to learn the sketching techniques to get better o3o
I am too. I realize now that may not be the best for me, but guidelines really confuse me.
same
Drawing legs is my nemesis, so this helped so much!! Thanks xx
I like the first drawing the most, I'm going to try that technique! This was a really helpful video, thank you!
killua nice
Im Falling On The Disco With My Chemical Romances YAS
Oh my gosh your old videos... MY HEART GIRL IM SO PROUD OF YOUU you have grown so much ima cry 😭💕💗💗💗
Thank you so much. Using the first techniqe made me do much better at drawing, I drew Mikasa from Attack On Titan with it. It turned out really really, good. Thank you, you even inspired me to keep doing what I am with drawing. Thank you...
have you kept up with it? id like to see ur art now lol
I like the scribble technique and the 3rd technique because it lets my imagination be more creative when I draw my creatures. when you use the first one your always keeping to those boundaries at least that’s how I feel.
You've never gone to a class and you're this good!? That's crazy! I could never draw in different styles like you did here, and you've never even gone to a class!
My respect for you has gone WAY up!
interestingpotato u don’t have to go to a class to be a good artist
Amy Li yup
I try and find good tutorials for me, I am not that experienced artists so when I try and find tutorials like these, I guess it helps me, I don't really do as many tutorials because I cant even draw lines straight, I cant even use it with a ruler right as well, I'm really glad I found this because it helped me.
Bruh, nobody can draw a line that's _perfectly straight_
First i draw the head the skeletal way and i draw the body as a hybrid of the skeletal and freedraw way.
Kawaii Ivy Just goes to show you, there is no right way to sketch. :)
You sound like my art teacher...I wish you were my art teacher (: You put so much emotion into your words and everything art related, we love your passion 😍😉
You honestly sound like Star Butterfly and i love it.
You know it!! ⭐️
I NEEDED THIS VIDEO AND I AM SO GLAD I FOUND IT. I always tried to use the skeleton, plus some other thing I found bc I'm trying to figure out how bodies are shaped bc people are hard to draw for me, but I wasn't very comfortable with it. This gives a variety of ways to go about it, and now I can try out different things and see what I actually like
o-o I
am
a
Go with the flow
artist...
dont hate me wafflez o-o ;-;
Literally, I can't stop watching you! 😂 Like for real, I just searched something and I always find your videos! 😂😂😂🌟🌟🌟
U deserve more subscribers. Thanks for the help!
Unicorn Siwar aw, thanks! :)
I generally scribble to get the pose, then use the skeleton technique to add the specifics of the clothing, outfit, equipment etc
I find that the "flow" technique is something that comes from just being very familiar with what you draw, to the point you barely need to rely on sketching it.
For instance, if you draw a LOT of guns/mechs, you eventually get such a feel for it you can draw it almost without thinking or carefully constructing a sketch.
I tend to view sketching as training wheel. If you draw something enough, there'll eventually come a day when you can draw it without needing to sketch it first.
omg!!!!! you helped me a lot!!!!!!!!!! i was the worst at drawing girls and boys!! but now I'm the princess ( not saying queen because still not the best) of drawing!!!!!
Two and four were the best ones in my opinion. I love your ideas . . . I will definitely have to try your different methods to see which one suits me best.
What is the significance of using the colored pencils? How do they help? I'm extremely curious!
i have no idea either 😂
I use them cause they blend with watercolor and stuff nicely and they just give a nice look ya know
Thx
They add color. That's usually the only reason artists use them; it's a change from basic, boring gray. Although, some colors will not show up when you scan them. So if you were to say, draw line art to color digitally, you could use one of those colors for the preliminary sketch, and then go over it with a pen, and you would only see the pen work on the computer.
Check out Baylee jae's newest vid she explains why☺️
When you don’t use any of these methods
*am i disabled*
I've been sumoned
Lol wow
YOUR VOICE AND ART AND STUFF ARE ALL SO AMAZING! Subscribed!
The Line and circle & the scribble technechs look the best out of all of the ways.
While me sometimes : *draws stickman with hair*
Ah yay ,,now I've at least got stickwomen 😂💗
i just go with the flow all the time... i think i fell in love with scribbling now !♡
The 2nd and 4th one were the cutest.
Also, I'm a "go with the flow" artist.
Oh my actual goodness, I was looking at videos to help me and my failing art and found this. I love drawingwithwaffles and this was so looong ago! She’s so good even then, although she has gotten better. But omlllll she was so young and clueless and now she’s professional
Also I kinda forgot why I came to watch this video cause I was so amazed lol
I really love her voice xDD its so happy
i love how the scribble technique! i've always used the go with the flow technique and i always hate it before i can start drawing the body.
I'm a mix of all of 'em ;^;
Ms. Nekoni same
You're not alone :3
They’re the same..person... didn’t you hear at the start?...
I use a mix of the skeletal and go with the flow techniques because I use the skeletal technique for the head and hands and then I use the go with the flow technique for everything else! 😃
I’m like ... oh no, I watched this wayyyyyy too late. But I love ur channel and me too I’m a really young self taught artist ... written 2020
Probably the biggest help I have ever gotten in drawing THANK YOU
I got this recommended
IM GONNA WATCH IT FOR SURE
This helped me realize that my drawings are so stiff because I always try too hard and don’t give myself the chance to fail.
Waffles making it look so easy..
Me trying to draw:
AHHHH SOO HARDD!
Torso looks like a wordrobe!
Head looks like a pumpkin!
Arms looks like a broom!
How you do dat? 😰😰
Edit: OMG! thank you so much for 10 likes! I've never gotten this much before!
Mine just looks like sherk
U mean shrek?
2019 ?
Draw with waffles is still the best !
I'm more of a scribble but sometimes I use the skeleton method
thank you for making this videos with these four methods.Its very helpful for my drawing. thank you WiffWaffles
I think I'm more into scribble and the 4th one 'cause I can't draw bodies without circle.
i use the scribble and skeleton techniques the most. the skeleton shapes help me draw bodies, and the scribble technique keeps things fluid. i personally like the extra lines and density from scribbling. i use “go with the flow” most when i want to draw mindlessly (mostly facial features), but those drawings are usually disproportionate and unfinished.
First video and I'm already subscribing...
The other day I created a drawing I was really proud of without any guide lines. And I'm still really happy about it
your voice reminds me of star butterfly 😫
Watching you do the scribble technique reminded me of how I draw. I do that all the time!
I love this video but the 3rd one gave me nightmares from its cheek bones. No offense it just scares me, that face
I like the 4th most! It looks full of life and fun.
It looks like sayori from Doki doki literature club
I personally use the " skeleton and chisel " technique. So basically you make the basic skeleton layout and chisel away until it looks half decent.
scrible, I think the best because I just made two girls sitting n
Down....JUST BY DOING A SCRIBBLE.....it amazing.....im also self taught
Thank You so much for this video. I learnt drawing sketches using shapes. It worked pretty well for me. But 2 months ago I met with an accident and now my right arm isn't working well. Doctors say it'd take 2 months more for it to work properly. I can't live without drawing but it was difficult drawing with my less dominant hand where your scribble sketch technique really came in handy. Thanks again.
i never use the skeleton technique because it makes me feel awkward trying to draw a character using guidelines. it makes me unsure how to draw
I didn't knew you're a self taught artist this is so amazing
No matter how hard I try, and no matter how much I practice, I seriously can not draw like.. anything. HAULP
Same I just suck. I try SUPER hard it turns rns out looking like poop.
I put no effort in my drawings at all and it turns out looking good. It's kind of weird
JacquelineThePurpleGirl You're lucky.
2neko4u Yeah...
JacquelineThePurpleGirl boop
Btw, for the beginners I would recommend not to say terms like guidelines, I like to call my sketches a gesture lines or skeleton foundation. The sketch method used in this video is pretty useful except for the first one which often times used for amateur artists. The second method is actually used for building the gesture foundation while the third one is to refine your drawings better. Fourth one depending on how fast you work will often times be good for thumbnail sketches. But definitely, for starters I would recommend looking into life drawing course to get a better sense to have a proportion, composition, and any art foundation to be set before you move on to your real style of drawing.
The first one is the baymax teqniche 0--0
The way I sketch:
I draw a circle for the head, then I shape out the head and body without guidelines (Like the "go with the flow" technique), I add the face in last, and then I add tiny little details and fix up the anatomy a bit.
THANK YOU FOR SAVING MAH LIFE!!!!
Savannah Hamilton No problem, Savannah! haha Love your icon!
***** Thx!
I like 3 because you started with the eyes and that brought out more of the face.
Helllo i speak spanish and english like si hablas español
Estudio español en mi escuela pero no soy fluido
Yo soy bilingue. Eres de españa/ america o te enseñaron en el cole a hablar español
Se hablar los dos.
UwU vamos los que hablamos span-gles
(Spanish + Ingles)
Mk, bye now 😂
Ok i dont care
Mucho gusto 요 means weo in Korean
I usually "go with the flow", but adding some circles and scribbles so I know how will it continue. I feel like I use every technique you've shown.
Been watching her for 6 months now and just realized I didn’t subscribe yet 😂
I love that all 4 seem to have different personalities as well!
"That's a scribble. Excuse me-"
I'm 6 years late but I'm still in love with (wiff) your stuff you're helping me through quarantine so much so thank you so much for all you do ❤