I have a wampler bravado head myself, and I can tell you this is the most perfect pedal platform I have ever heard. Not a pcb in it and it will last a lifetime. With pedals I can get any sound out of it which I need. I think of this head as my keeper amp.
I'd love this too. As someone with a multi-effects unit who plays & records mostly at home I'd be interested to know what you can put together as a first pedal rig to be as versatile as possible and get you off the ground.
After almost two years of watching you guys, my knowledge of gain structure has greatly increased and really helped me develop my concept of sound. Thank you guys!
+Conaca Thank you Conaca. It makes it all worthwhile when people say that our videos help. That's all we're here for - to try and help illuminate some sections of this bonkers journey. It never ends, but we enjoy it anyway! Thanks for watching.
And that you guys have greatly done for me. We're all here because we love music and playing guitar. Sharing what we know about it is one of my favorite things about this community. Long-time viewer and will continue to be. Never lose the enthusiasm!
Yeah, it would be especially helpful when it comes to dirt pedals. Mine is super touchy, and it's always hit or miss when it comes to finding a drive or fuzz that sounds good through it.
I've heard great things about both with AC30s, though I've never played through them. I've got a JHS Morning Glory that I really like, and I'm also trying a Klon clone soon. I've just had mixed results with a Tonebender, especially with rhythm sounds.
Well, isn't that subjective? Seems to me they're not even in the same realm as far as what they're trying to broadcast. I'm not looking for a comedy or personality show, just gear info and I think each one serves that well in it's own right and what they're trying to get across.
Hello Lads. In a more recent video of yours I left a comment asking you to demo the Bravado, unaware that you already had! After watching this video, I'm seriously loving the way it sounds. Great job showing what this amp can do! Cheers from your pal across the pond!
Guys I got my Bravado head today and holy moly is that amp revealing or what !! I'm hearing sounds I've never heard in pedals I've owned for years. I know it's expensive.....but it's worth it.
Brilliant demo. I find myself more often using a clean, flat setting on the amp and my Plexi Drive at the end of the signal chain to 'catch' everything else. Compressor, Tone Bender, TS, Fuzzface.. all sound great into the Plexi Drive, and you have the added bonus of normalizing the tone and volume when switching between disparate pedals. Not for everyone, but it's been working for me. My conundrum now is figuring out a simple volume boost AFTER the Plexi Drive.
Jesse here! This episode could not have come at a better time. I'm selling my entire bass rig ($$) and buying a guitar and amp next week. And I want a pedal platform... But I'm out of my element since I've been a bassist for nearly 20 years. Thanks guys!
Super sweet how the pedals that are engaged are now shown in full color. I notice these things! Production value is key; you guys are nailing it. Great show and keep up the great work!
I'd love a show featuring Vox AC30's, Matchless and other AC30 style amps. It would be great to go through various OD's using the top boost, normal and EF86 channels. Also I'd love to see the Nobels ODR-1 make an appearance more. Maybe a Nashville session board episode. Keep up the good work fellas!
+Billy Wagner Yes! We keep talking about doing this. I'm actually with Brad Paisley later today (HONK - Mick here, doing it for Guitarist mag) so no doubt I'll be full of Voxy enthusiasm for a while! :0)
+Nick Stroud Loves his Tube Screamers and analogue delays. Chances of him coming on the show are somewhere between zero and highly, highly unlikely, sadly. Megastars don't do little RUclips shows. Yet.
you guys do a good job, it's essential for those who are structuring the very concept of timbres. Congratulations for your work, I leave my request for subtitles in these videos, because I am Brazilian and I do not understand English. thanks
I used to be that 'just amp and guitar' guy until I watched your show and learned what proper/improper gain structure and frequency stacking can do for me. Now swimming in pedals that don't fit on my large pedal board but love all of it. Cheers!
Lukather did indeed use Deluxe's and Princeton's in the studio around that time. But they we're heavily modded by Paul Rivera, who was working out of the Valley Arts shop around that time... The same shop that made Steve Lukather his "Robot" guitar, which was his go to guitar before the Music Man stuff. He has stated several times that the guitar he used on Rosanna was his '59 Les Paul. The mod's on the amps included different mid-boost features, cascading gainstages (using the reverb tube, i think?) and - i believe - replacing the speakers with EVM's, so they wouldn't flab out. That's at least what I've been able to sniff out :)
+Magnus Guldbrandsen Thank you Magnus. It dawned on me - Mick here - that I think Luke might have said that to me himself. (Honk) Or at least in one of the hundreds of interviews I edited/rewrote over the years. Man, where does the time go?! I've forgotten more than I remember. Thanks for watching!
I've been playing guitar for nearly 40 years, many of them as my only job and I've learned more about pedals, and rig setup in the last 2 months than in the previous stubborn years. Thank you!! as I'm an ever revolving equipment guy anyway. Would it be possible to address the situation I find myself in most of the time ie..Having to get a fantastic tone at a low stage volume in order to keep the FOH guy from hurting himself or others during his rants. So, low volume, cut the mix, sound unbelievably fantastic. Gracias Amigos
Brad Allen , wow i could hav written this same thing, put my name to it and it be 100% true. Were prob close to the same age and choices nowdays are unreal. Iv been playin thru an old 70watt fender bassman with 4x12 n handful pedals, turned up a lil bit . Does pretty good. But I feel ur pain lol. Good luck
I'm from the synth side of things so just to put out a thought. What about a show with you dealing with things like the Sherman Filterbank, Vermona Filter Lancet or Retroverb Lancet - & how they integrate with guitars?
Dan and Mick - Thank you guys for your excellent reviews, explanations, etc. As a former audio engineer, guitar player/musician, touring sound engineer, I have always been seeking great tone. I used to repair tube guitar amps and do tone stack mods for that 'great tone'. I really appreciate every one of your You Tube videos that I have seen so far. Thanks and keep up the great work! (I was also Sonny Landreth's touring sound engineer/production manager for several years.) "Life is too short for bad tone."
Thank you Denny. We wish our ears had heard what yours have heard doing Sonny’s sound. Dude is a whole education in great guitar tone! Thanks for the kind words. :0)
Yep. That's how I "got my job with Sonny". I was hired to do a special show. (Only recording industry executives from around the world were in attendance - first gig with Sonny. Not much pressure eh? ;) ). Sonny's manager at that time was Dennis Lord. (He works at SESAC still, and wrote that county song for Travis Tritt - "I'm a member of the country club".) Anyway, Dennis watched me closly throughout the gig. There were some "special guests", (one being my ol' buddy - Vince Gill). So the tour manager chewed me out when I brought down Viince's vocals during the show because Vince's harmonies were off. (Hey, I know what my job is - to "bring down the 'sucky' parts). So Dennis heard me tell the tour manager why I brought down Vince's vocals. "He sucked on vocals" - only for a second or two. After the gig I walked backstage and Vince waved at me. I told Vince that he sucked on vocals. Now, anyone who has ever heard Vince sing knows that this is impossible. But since I knew Vince, I told him that anyway. Vince came over and gave me a hug and said "Thanks for covering up my bad harmonies." The tour manager's eyes were wide open! So, Sonny came up to me after that and asked me what I was planning on doing for the next 5 years or so. I took the job. If you want to know how great a Dumble amp sounds up close and personal, I consider it very fortunate that I was able to mix many shows with Sonny using his Dumble. (I actually got to play guitar through Sonny's Dumble several times when we were goofing around at sound checks.) Dave Ranson, (bass player), used to not show up for sound checks so I played bass with Sonny and the drummer at that time, Mike Organ). What fun we had on the road. I think it was about that time when I started saying "Life is too short for bad tone." You wanna talk about a 'finesse' player - Sonny is amazing. I am also impressed with you guys too. I can tell that Dan and Mick know their stuff and know "how to listen". I used to teach audio engineering and I would tell people that there is a big difference between "hearing" and "listening". You guys know 'how to listen'. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
I Recommend the following setup when you feature the hot rod deluxe. Hot rod with vintage 30 and Warehouse ET65 in ext cab. Pedal order: Fairfield Circuitry the accountant- EP booster-overrated special-carpe diem or tube screamer. Strymon Deco in the loop set to studio mode (see manual) along with your favorite modulation. I use tape saturation when soloing. I get rich harmonics and even some feedback at bedroom levels.
Just discovered your RUclips channel about a week ago while looking into pedal info. Started playing in my teens (early 30's now) and have never gotten into pedals. Always done the whole Marshall/Trip Rec/rack effects. 4x12 cab, and that whole bit as well. Musical tastes and playing have changed over the years as they do, and I don't spend nearly the amount of time playing as I'd like. SO, I am looking to scale back, and change things up a bit. No sense in a big rig set up these days. What started as researching what various bands I like use, has brought me here. Long story short..... LOVE LOVE LOVE your show. You guys are easy to learn from, and very entertaining. I have the shows running in the background while I work the day job at the computer. Just wanted to say thanks, and keep up the good work! Will have a peep at the store soon. Happy to support. Love from the west coast here state-side.
+Tyson Stole That's awesome Tyson, thanks for the message and great to have you on board! As you're no doubt discovering, there are soooooo many pedals available now. But the good news is that most of em sound pretty good., especially if you start with the classics. Hope you enjoy catching up on some shows, and indeed all the rest that are still to come. Cheers!
+Tyson Stole That's awesome Tyson, thanks for the message and great to have you on board! As you're no doubt discovering, there are soooooo many pedals available now. But the good news is that most of em sound pretty good., especially if you start with the classics. Hope you enjoy catching up on some shows, and indeed all the rest that are still to come. Cheers!
Glad you did this with the Wampler Pedal platform. No better way to get the real colour of a pedal than this. I hope it is a keeper for your show. I know it is dear, but gives such an unbiased demo of the pedals. Peace
Ok, I've said it before, I sound like a broken record I know... That riff/phrase at 23:00-23:13...!!!!!!!!! If its not part of a recorded song, Mick PLEASE!!!! MAKE IT ONE!!!!! Really, make a song out of it!!!!I absolutely friggin love it!
The wampler handles the reverbs and delays so well. It's so detailed and clean. Would be interesting to hear a wet dry rig using the wampler for the wet effects, and a more traditionally shaped amp for the dry.
Lol I love that the knobs on the front of the Wampler even hint at the obvious collaboration or at least consultation with Joe Morgan. The clean sound reminds me a lot of my SW22, how it kind of sounds like it has a compressor on it no matter what.
A Tally for those who own a Fender HRD! I love mine. I bought it used from Long & McQuades rentals. Tip-Look up Hot Rod Deluxe Settings on Yahoo, then select images for a break down of dial settings!
I like how my dual Orange Micro Terror rig sounds. I leave the eq at 12 O'Clock. I have several high quality overdrives which sound very amp like, used like multi-channels on an an amp. I leave my amps on clean, but I use a parametric eq to shape the overall tone which sets well with my rig. I am using this method, due to not being able to afford an expensive multi-channel amplifier. It works great for me. If I had a Mesa Boogie TC-50, I wouldn't have to use all those overdrives. I think the concept of a pedal platform amp makes a lot of sense. Since, some amp don't work as well with pedals.
Bought a Marshall JTM45 (Bassman clone) in 1990-ish specifically as a pedal platform. Cleaner than most I never even try and get it to break up, it doesn't get any louder anyway and plugged into the high/bright channel on about 4 it's a huge clean sound that burnishes anything fed through it. Think about it, all the hype about powerful pickups driving valve amps - what is a pickup if not solid-state? Solid state into a valve amp sounds great - the amp warms S-S pedals up a treat.
Tone is so personal, that said, I always have found that if you find the best clean tone to your ears, dynamic, big sounding... you are all set. Just add pedals to add color or not. I am a Clean tone leaning player. You may need two amps for different size venues if you like to stay at that perfect point in the amps volume range. So a tweed deluxe type and a 6l6 type. Just my two cents. Love this channel. Helped me find great pedals.
G'day from 'Straya, Mick and Dan-o! Thanks for the vids, love them to bits. Suggestion: what about a video on MIDI for pedalboards-- what it is, how it works, and what you can do with it on a pedalboard? Heaps of pedals have MIDI I/O's that never get used. How do we "harness the power of MIDI"? Keep up the great work!
I use a jc40 as my pedal platform. it can literally do EVERYTHING. it is a deceitful amp in the sense that it's so neutral (sterile?) that most view it as a plug and play, which does work like that if that's what you want. But if you dig deep and actually mess with it, it has features that allow it to actually fix it's flaws. fucking crazy, but upon giving it the time of day, I stumbled upon a happy accident. Now, with the right pedals, I can play pretty brutal sounding metal, and soft jazz if I want. The important factor aside from actually sitting down and messing with the amps features is making sure you get the right pedals for the desired application. because if the amp does not vibe, it's usually the pedals fault. of course im still only talking about the jc40. I realize it's a very polarizing amp, but if you actually give it the time and effort to understand it, you will be rewarded with a universal (and pleasant) clean, transparent, tone for your guitar and pedals
Luis Barrera Lots of 'rock' amps have quite 'sterile' clean channels which make them better choices as platforms for pedals. My Peavey Valveking with an Eminence speaker is a great pedal amp.
Would love to see you guys doing a fender pro jr. Similar to a champ. One volume, one tone. You've done a blues jr. before but would love to see what some of your pedals sound like through an amp that's super simple, super straightforward
Great show as ALWAYS boys! Now I understand technically why my '75 Ampeg.VT22(120 watts) takes pedals SO well ; virtually unlimited headroom and crystal clear( Altech Lansing speakers) It was a pedal platform, ahead of its time
Great show! Love Wampler's stuff. Show idea - Load boxes i.e. Suhr Reactive load, Torpedo Live vs. mic cabs for recording. Thanks for all great information you're providing to the guitar community.
+Gary Duvall We're trying to figure out how to do that Gary. It's a huge production job that requires interfaces, monitoring and all that business, whereas as the mo we just stick the mics on and we like it. Maybe we could try a couple of shows where we use both methods and make our observations after we've mixed the audio. Hmmmmm
Good show D&M!! Just came back from jamming with my stupidly irresponsibly huge pedal board with a Fender Deluxe .. this episode reminded me why I should have sucked it up and brought my bigger amp with some decent midrange! Thanks again fellas!!
One thing I have been thinking about is looking at the best rig to cover dirty tones, could you do a video that looks at using a clean amp with pedals giving all the gain, an amp on the edge of breakup where you can boost it into overdrive with pedals, and a dirty amp, so you would basically have either 100% pedal gain, ~50/50 pedal/amp gain, and 100% amp gain, and the positives and negatives with each set up?
I've been a fan of the show since the beginning and I've learned A LOT of stuff over these episodes. But what I liked most of all was the objective approach and the comparing of different pedals/amps within a certain theme. I kinda missed the other pedal platform options in this one. Just a full feature of the Bravado, which does sound preeeeetty nice, but not even a mention to the classic Hiwatt amps for instance... these are highly regarded as perfect pedal platforms. Dunno, made to whole episode seems like a 49 minute Wampler commercial.
Ello Mates! Long time viewer first time requester! Please review or explain the BBE Sonic Stomp! Love mine! Last in the chain and it cleans the signal up. Adds a buttery fullness I can't explain. Based on the rack system(Sonic Maximizer), it supposedly lines up the signal for the amp. Imagine( + & -) all jumbled up. Signal could get fizzy. This is supposed to line them up. Could be wrong, don't quote me! Also is it considered a boost?
Great One! The Bravado seems a great AMP indeed!! What amuse me is how you guys always have an even volume when changing or even stacking pedals. This is the magic of: A) 2 guys and one keeps on moving knobs?; B) A lot o planning before getting everything even?; C) Some sort of Limiter on the Video? A show on this would also be great. Cheers
Interesting, guys. My main amp (right now) is a David Allen version of a Deluxe but with 6L6GC s and a Gz34 - without a normal channel. Sounds similar to Brian’s amp but not identical. Works well with the same family of pedals. Pete.
My pedals came alive when i started playing through my Quilter Pro Block 200 and Micro Pro Mach 2. You simply must try out the Quilter line of amps. They are so good that you won't believe they are Solid State amps.
This is fabulous... you guys are getting better and better as presenters, which is really great to see. I'd love to see the Wampler side by side with the Hamstead, which I understand is also a great pedal platform? Also, I'd be interested to know what pedals do you think would NOT work with either the Wampler or the Hamstead. Thanks to you both.
A hidden gem amp for that application is a Carvin X100B if you are on a budget ;) . They really take well pedal and the variable power section and the graphic EQ are really useful. However, you have to be really careful with the EQ section because it is very drastic.
Lukather once said in an interview that the "Rosanna" tone was a Les Paul through a Rivera-modded blackface Deluxe Reverb. He also had "a couple of Marshalls done up by Paul". It makes sense in the context what Rivera later did with his own amp line. (Also, FWIW, I called the Rivera customer service number awhile back with questions about modding my R55; Paul Rivera Sr himself picked up the phone and answered my questions.)
Hey dudes. What about an episode about exact opposite. "Amps that are not Pedal Platforms, and the pedals that work with them." i.e. Orange Amps. Thanks dudes, these videos are of utmost help.
T- Hawk As another Orange I agree with this. On the other hand I've found a lot of pedals that work with a small Orange amp. Only ones that don't are the Mid hump overdrives. OCD, Timmy, Xotic BB, Zendrive all work great just be careful of eq. Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs though
This confirms my long held view that master volume crushes the tone of an amp. The only exception to this I have found are the original Dave Reeves Hiwatt amps of the 70s and 80s. Love the show.
+Ian Wilson We understand where you're coming from Ian. It my be a bit reductive to say that about every MV amp, and indeed plenty of MV amps can sound great with the master dialled up higher. But yes, we know what you mean. Cheers!
As always, brilliant job, Gents! Was that an intentional Spinal Tap musical joke at 22:42? I'd like to hear a similar conversation on one of your Bedroom Tones videos. What amps, simulators, etc take pedals and perform in a desirable way at the lower volumes required to keep spouses, neighbours, and landlords happy. Thanks very much for what you are doing in the Guitar and Audio Community!
+Bud McNelson Hey Bud, so glad you got the Tap reference. Not sure if I played the right chords, but it just popped into my head as I was playing. :0) We did a show on Bedroom Tones a few weeks back. Same rules apply really, although everything has a different dynamic at lower volume. You don't hear the nuances and detail and dynamics in the same way.... cheers!
jgodin312 yes! Love my ZT. Goes nice with a klone or the MI crossover drive. I also dig using the headphone out to the desk at rehearsals for extra spread. Would be keen to hear how others use theirs - and to hear how these guys would go with it.
Mick - that sequence you play at 9:27 is really, really sweet! About time for you to transcribe/teach some of this stuff that just shows up when you're noodling!
+Vincent Tuckwood Transcribe?! Hahahahaha. Maybe somebody else can do it. I honestly wouldn't have a clue how to do that, let alone teach anyone. But thank you!
Yes, but was it a pick-scrape at bar 3, 3rd beat, or was it a fret squeak? We need to know!!! It's important! Just keep doing what you do, it's great :)
My main amp is a Fender Deluxe clone and it works great with my pedals, so it's interesting to hear that Brian based his amp on that circuit, though heavily modified. I like the changes he made, such as a multi-position bright switch and even more power.
I remember tech 21 doing an amp like this but it was solid state. I checked it out like 15 years ago and it was not half bad..but it never could replace my Fender Deville. I've been doing this for years with several different amps...it is totally killer that a company as high profile as Wampler is catering to the pedal junkies of the world with an amp built specifically as a platform!
Great show as always! There are some GigRig videos that cover pedalboard building, but it might be cool to bring that into this format and build a PT Jr sized board start to finish, explaining pedal choices, arrangement, power and cable choices, etc. If someone hasn't seen the GigRig stuff, it may be a good introduction in this format.
Been eyeing this amp, but of course just ordered the Victory V-40 this week! Been meaning to suggest an episode thats focusing on tubes? Different types of pre-amp and power amp. For example, I switched my Blues Deluxe to a NOS 5751 tube and cleaned it up to more of a pedal platform, love it! Will try it on the Victory as well. Thanks guys!
It has been a while, maybe there could be an updated video on this topic (or did I miss - then shame on me!)? I'd love to see the Tube Workshop TWS 2864-S from Germany to be tested by you. It is said to be designed as a pedal platform amp, so it might be quite something! Thank you very much for your great show, you helped me quite a lot with my sound!
I bought a newer 5150 iii. 50 watt this last winter. I have recently started to use the clean channel as a pedal platform. Have not had a chance to gig with it cause my band broke up. But I like the results Ive Been getting. Watch a few artists using Mogans like that and found it interesting.
It’s pretty much all I’ve ever done - Mick here - and it’s Dan’s preferred approach too. More headroom (albeit with a level of natural overdrive for certain applications/amps) and the right pedals. Or a slightly overdriving amp like a Plexi or AC30 and a booster. It’s how I learned to play with dynamics. Nice!
I can't thank you guys enough for all the useful stuff I've learned from watching your videos. I enjoy listening to both of you play and share the amazing insight and experience you have. Inspired by your video(s), I tried something I've not tried before. I cranked my WEM Dominator III all the way to the top just to see how it sounds and how much top end it has. Well fuck me (sorry only word that conveys my surprise), I knew it was a nice amp but I didn't realise how nice. Rolling off the guitar volume gives an amazing clean tone, and when I turn the guitar up (using a tele black top) the amp has a wonderful growling overdrive. It sounds like an early Marshall IMO. I had no idea my amp could do this. I could only play for a few minutes mind you before my neighbours started complaining (ooops). In conclusion the WEM doesn't have as much head room as I thought it had, but it's still a great amp that takes pedals well. Coincidentally, I have a few overdrive pedals, the one that sounds the best with my amp is probably the Wampler Plexidrive. Thanks again guys. I've learned more about pedals and amps from watching your videos than all the other channels combined, and I still have a shit load to learn, so keep up the good work.
I've been thinking of taking the WEM to a local rehearsal studio so that I can play with it properly. If I do I will definitely record some of it and bung it on RUclips. The world deserves to know how nice it sounds. :0) Thanks for replying. I may be new to your channel but I am now one of your biggest fans. Cheers.
It's totally me, but all I can think of while listening to this amplifier is that is a "rational" choice. After the episodes where you went bananas playing vintage, exotic stuff this seems like an amp that you would just play covers with. Unless one has some amazing super-rare effects, wouldn't choose this one over another that being tonally imperfect augments player's personality (of course when chosen adequately). Utilitarian amp for me (not necessarily a bad thing) and as you concluded an "interesting addition to the market". Highly educative episode, guys!
I know everyone says it's not the right way to use it, but I find my Bassbreaker works great on a low gain setting as a toneful clean amp for using pedals.
7:32 It is possible to get a good (clean) sound going straight to front of house, but you have to account for what a speaker cabinet is doing; namely acting as a band-pass filter. Pedals are designed with the assumption that they will be run through a speaker that shores off everything below about 80Hz and everything above 6kHz. I've gotten an awesome sound with a baritone telecater into a Bogner Ecstacy Blue set clean and strait to a DI. I had to turn the treble way down compared to running it into an amp. It was more Hi-Fi sounding than an amp, but it was a cool sound.
Guys! Awesome show!! I dig it! Always waiting every sigle friday ready for a new video! Keep it up guys! Just a little request for an upcoming video... perhaps do a video explaining ALL the wiring needed for a dual rig, how a pedal board should be wired and placed for a confortable set on the pedals and the amp and its fx loop... maybe also how to use a gigrig to make it easier to plug everything together... ... ... is just a suggestion, you still do a great job, so keep the videos coming, you guys! Big fan here!
What makes a good pedal amp is what makes a good amp, imo. For me, that means it first needs to sound great without pedals. I look for touch sensitivity, headroom and a volume sweet spot that's appropriate to the application. If I then plug in a Strat and each position on the selector switch sounds like a different guitar, I'm a happy camper.
Awesome show. Been waiting for someone to review the Bravado. Brian is one smart creative guy. I'm hoping he does a low wattage version. I think it would helpful if you had a camera on the amp controls when you're tweaking the controls...like how you show the G2 board and pedals. Looking forward to your attenuator comparison show.
Hey guys! Love the show!! Genrally i get the feeling that the speaker itself has a lot to do with the overall EQ-curve of any amp. This has to effect the pedal of choice, primarily overdrive, distorsion and fuzz. Any chanses of making a video on: using the same head and switching speakers? In conjunction with pedals. I.E. "What speaker works best with a mid hump pedal" etc. Cheers!
Another corking show, fellas! Like that Wampler kit is getting an airing, too. BTW: Did you guys see Brian W's video interview with Mrs Wampler? Gave a really interesting perspective on this stuff. So, given your previous comments about what you can & cannot use (not allowed to use???) at home, may I humbly suggest that there's a case for Mrs Dan & Mrs Mick to share their thoughts in a similar manner????
Excellent as always but , for me, if it's a pedal platform amp I'd have like to have seen some more amp in the box pedals going through it - Fender, Vox, Boogie ,etc, flavoured - to see how they worked, if I was buying a platform amp I'd want it to be versatile.
Give it some love in the front end missus! Oo-er missus!! =P I'm stealing that one Mick. Another brilliant show guys, been waiting for this for a while. Definitely gonna have to save to get a Bravado! Jason's cab sounded great too.
Wow, the Pro Analog mkIV sounded ace through either amp. Preferred it through the Bravado but still great through the Lonestar. Killer pedal and killer show as always. Cheers!
Have you tried a Carr Rambler? It's an excellent "pedal platform" amp. I use two in a stereo setup with an extensive pedalboard and you can hear everything. Tons of dynamic range and detail. Have Steve send you one!
I really like the clean channel on my rockerverb 50. Kinda does what the Bravado does here. I've only recently been adding different overdrives on my board. Now I feel like I have a 3 or 4 channel amp! The overdrive channel is killer for those more compressed leads. I used to only be about amp overdrive/distortion. Now I'm happily both pedals and straight amp. Two channels FTW!
Normally really like the KOT but interesting sounds in today's show - I thought the Plexi Drive into the Bravado killed it. Especially with Mick's Collings...holy hell that was insane tone. Thanks for all you do guys!
@thatpedalshow This will probably sound like a foolish question but what about this amp isn't making you jump out of your shoes and say, "You must have this!"? You know, is there something about it that makes you think it's for a special type of player/tone chaser? I ask because I am in the market for an amp and wonder (I've got a Fender Blues Deluxe and a little Marshall Class V running side-by-side by the way.) if this Wampler "Built For Pedals" Amp platform is absolutely the way to go. But...what would you suggest we consider in purchasing this particular amp over a Dr. Z, Twin Rock, Marshall, Fender Twin Reverb, etc.? Sorry for droning on.
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I have a wampler bravado head myself, and I can tell you this is the most perfect pedal platform I have ever heard. Not a pcb in it and it will last a lifetime. With pedals I can get any sound out of it which I need. I think of this head as my keeper amp.
Got toast. Got coffee. Got my TPS t-shirt on. Got Dan & Mick. The circle is now complete...
Lovely.
You guys need to start a "That Amplifier Show" or "That Amp Show"
Maybe even a "That Guitar Show" for crazy stuff like the Line6 Variax or Vox Starstream
Imperial Officer "That Gear Show"
this is it
Hey guys , would you consider doing a versatile pedalboard challenge with a *budget* (500-750). Try to cover as many styles as possible please
+Tyler Bairstow Yep - great idea!
That Pedal Show Awesome, really looking forward to it! I used to be that guy (3:30) before I found your show.. now I know better. Keep it up guys
Tyler Bairstow I'll look forward to this one, too.
Needs to include: tuner, wah, overdrive, fuzz, phaser, chorus, delay, reverb compressor and pitch shifter. No multi effects allowed. Optional: rotary, flanger, bit crusher & looper
I'd love this too. As someone with a multi-effects unit who plays & records mostly at home I'd be interested to know what you can put together as a first pedal rig to be as versatile as possible and get you off the ground.
After almost two years of watching you guys, my knowledge of gain structure has greatly increased and really helped me develop my concept of sound. Thank you guys!
PS: that DGT (I think is the name) is awesome!
+Conaca Thank you Conaca. It makes it all worthwhile when people say that our videos help. That's all we're here for - to try and help illuminate some sections of this bonkers journey. It never ends, but we enjoy it anyway! Thanks for watching.
And that you guys have greatly done for me. We're all here because we love music and playing guitar. Sharing what we know about it is one of my favorite things about this community. Long-time viewer and will continue to be. Never lose the enthusiasm!
Neeeeed a show about Vox amps and how to properly use them! Maybe with some perfect pairings with types of pedals
Vittorio Pasolini Seconded, Voxes don't seem to get as much coverage as I think they deserve (guitar-worldwide, not TPS).
+Vittorio Pasolini Yep, this is absolutely on the list. Can't wait.
Yeah, it would be especially helpful when it comes to dirt pedals. Mine is super touchy, and it's always hit or miss when it comes to finding a drive or fuzz that sounds good through it.
Matt Hamer You tried a Rat or a Timmy? My Dad's sounds pretty good with those. I've had mixed result running my board through it, though.
I've heard great things about both with AC30s, though I've never played through them. I've got a JHS Morning Glory that I really like, and I'm also trying a Klon clone soon. I've just had mixed results with a Tonebender, especially with rhythm sounds.
I'm glad you spent some time near the end with clean tones - that amp sounds beautiful to my ears
That Plexi Drive into the Bravado sounds GREAT. Excellent job to the Wampler crew!
That's why i love my old Hiwatt Custom 100. Takes every pedal and loads of headroom. Decent clean sound, too.
IMHO this show is much better than Andertons. These guys are great.
I agree the metal guy on that other show is pretty unbearable to watch and listen to.
Well, isn't that subjective? Seems to me they're not even in the same realm as far as what they're trying to broadcast. I'm not looking for a comedy or personality show, just gear info and I think each one serves that well in it's own right and what they're trying to get across.
I thought this was andertons.....lol. Now that you mention it though , I did notice less annoying tom foolery. Those anderton guys need medication.
These guys are able to be entertaining and still deliver information.
@@calebtaulbee8594 Rob Chapman is unbearable to watch, I love it when Pete and Ariel do the andertons guitar demos
Hello Lads. In a more recent video of yours I left a comment asking you to demo the Bravado, unaware that you already had! After watching this video, I'm seriously loving the way it sounds. Great job showing what this amp can do! Cheers from your pal across the pond!
Guys I got my Bravado head today and holy moly is that amp revealing or what !! I'm hearing sounds I've never heard in pedals I've owned for years. I know it's expensive.....but it's worth it.
Brilliant demo. I find myself more often using a clean, flat setting on the amp and my Plexi Drive at the end of the signal chain to 'catch' everything else. Compressor, Tone Bender, TS, Fuzzface.. all sound great into the Plexi Drive, and you have the added bonus of normalizing the tone and volume when switching between disparate pedals. Not for everyone, but it's been working for me. My conundrum now is figuring out a simple volume boost AFTER the Plexi Drive.
Jesse here! This episode could not have come at a better time. I'm selling my entire bass rig ($$) and buying a guitar and amp next week. And I want a pedal platform... But I'm out of my element since I've been a bassist for nearly 20 years. Thanks guys!
Super sweet how the pedals that are engaged are now shown in full color. I notice these things! Production value is key; you guys are nailing it. Great show and keep up the great work!
I'd love a show featuring Vox AC30's, Matchless and other AC30 style amps. It would be great to go through various OD's using the top boost, normal and EF86 channels. Also I'd love to see the Nobels ODR-1 make an appearance more. Maybe a Nashville session board episode. Keep up the good work fellas!
+Billy Wagner Yes! We keep talking about doing this. I'm actually with Brad Paisley later today (HONK - Mick here, doing it for Guitarist mag) so no doubt I'll be full of Voxy enthusiasm for a while! :0)
I can't wait to check out that episode. Have fun hanging with Brad. He's a killer player and total tone freak!!!!
Billy Wagner yes!! This needs to happen!
+Nick Stroud Loves his Tube Screamers and analogue delays. Chances of him coming on the show are somewhere between zero and highly, highly unlikely, sadly. Megastars don't do little RUclips shows.
Yet.
That Pedal Show You guys are mega stars to us Mick!
you guys do a good job, it's essential for those who are structuring the very concept of timbres. Congratulations for your work, I leave my request for subtitles in these videos, because I am Brazilian and I do not understand English. thanks
Man it is impossible to make that DGT sound bad. I love that guitar.
CodyMBB quite right
They are great guitars!
I used to be that 'just amp and guitar' guy until I watched your show and learned what proper/improper gain structure and frequency stacking can do for me. Now swimming in pedals that don't fit on my large pedal board but love all of it. Cheers!
+Jordan S ah, cheers J. It's fun stuff right? ;)
Lukather did indeed use Deluxe's and Princeton's in the studio around that time. But they we're heavily modded by Paul Rivera, who was working out of the Valley Arts shop around that time... The same shop that made Steve Lukather his "Robot" guitar, which was his go to guitar before the Music Man stuff. He has stated several times that the guitar he used on Rosanna was his '59 Les Paul.
The mod's on the amps included different mid-boost features, cascading gainstages (using the reverb tube, i think?) and - i believe - replacing the speakers with EVM's, so they wouldn't flab out.
That's at least what I've been able to sniff out :)
+Magnus Guldbrandsen Thank you Magnus. It dawned on me - Mick here - that I think Luke might have said that to me himself. (Honk) Or at least in one of the hundreds of interviews I edited/rewrote over the years. Man, where does the time go?! I've forgotten more than I remember. Thanks for watching!
I've been playing guitar for nearly 40 years, many of them as my only job and I've learned more about pedals, and rig setup in the last 2 months than in the previous stubborn years. Thank you!! as I'm an ever revolving equipment guy anyway.
Would it be possible to address the situation I find myself in most of the time ie..Having to get a fantastic tone at a low stage volume in order to keep the FOH guy from hurting himself or others during his rants. So, low volume, cut the mix, sound unbelievably fantastic. Gracias Amigos
Brad Allen , wow i could hav written this same thing, put my name to it and it be 100% true. Were prob close to the same age and choices nowdays are unreal. Iv been playin thru an old 70watt fender bassman with 4x12 n handful pedals, turned up a lil bit . Does pretty good. But I feel ur pain lol. Good luck
I'm from the synth side of things so just to put out a thought. What about a show with you dealing with things like the Sherman Filterbank, Vermona Filter Lancet or Retroverb Lancet - & how they integrate with guitars?
Dan and Mick - Thank you guys for your excellent reviews, explanations, etc. As a former audio engineer, guitar player/musician, touring sound engineer, I have always been seeking great tone. I used to repair tube guitar amps and do tone stack mods for that 'great tone'. I really appreciate every one of your You Tube videos that I have seen so far. Thanks and keep up the great work! (I was also Sonny Landreth's touring sound engineer/production manager for several years.) "Life is too short for bad tone."
Thank you Denny. We wish our ears had heard what yours have heard doing Sonny’s sound. Dude is a whole education in great guitar tone! Thanks for the kind words. :0)
Yep. That's how I "got my job with Sonny". I was hired to do a special show. (Only recording industry executives from around the world were in attendance - first gig with Sonny. Not much pressure eh? ;) ). Sonny's manager at that time was Dennis Lord. (He works at SESAC still, and wrote that county song for Travis Tritt - "I'm a member of the country club".) Anyway, Dennis watched me closly throughout the gig. There were some "special guests", (one being my ol' buddy - Vince Gill). So the tour manager chewed me out when I brought down Viince's vocals during the show because Vince's harmonies were off. (Hey, I know what my job is - to "bring down the 'sucky' parts). So Dennis heard me tell the tour manager why I brought down Vince's vocals. "He sucked on vocals" - only for a second or two. After the gig I walked backstage and Vince waved at me. I told Vince that he sucked on vocals. Now, anyone who has ever heard Vince sing knows that this is impossible. But since I knew Vince, I told him that anyway. Vince came over and gave me a hug and said "Thanks for covering up my bad harmonies." The tour manager's eyes were wide open! So, Sonny came up to me after that and asked me what I was planning on doing for the next 5 years or so. I took the job. If you want to know how great a Dumble amp sounds up close and personal, I consider it very fortunate that I was able to mix many shows with Sonny using his Dumble. (I actually got to play guitar through Sonny's Dumble several times when we were goofing around at sound checks.) Dave Ranson, (bass player), used to not show up for sound checks so I played bass with Sonny and the drummer at that time, Mike Organ). What fun we had on the road. I think it was about that time when I started saying "Life is too short for bad tone." You wanna talk about a 'finesse' player - Sonny is amazing. I am also impressed with you guys too. I can tell that Dan and Mick know their stuff and know "how to listen". I used to teach audio engineering and I would tell people that there is a big difference between "hearing" and "listening". You guys know 'how to listen'. Keep up the great work! Cheers!
I Recommend the following setup when you feature the hot rod deluxe. Hot rod with vintage 30 and Warehouse ET65 in ext cab. Pedal order: Fairfield Circuitry the accountant- EP booster-overrated special-carpe diem or tube screamer. Strymon Deco in the loop set to studio mode (see manual) along with your favorite modulation. I use tape saturation when soloing. I get rich harmonics and even some feedback at bedroom levels.
Just discovered your RUclips channel about a week ago while looking into pedal info. Started playing in my teens (early 30's now) and have never gotten into pedals. Always done the whole Marshall/Trip Rec/rack effects. 4x12 cab, and that whole bit as well.
Musical tastes and playing have changed over the years as they do, and I don't spend nearly the amount of time playing as I'd like.
SO, I am looking to scale back, and change things up a bit. No sense in a big rig set up these days. What started as researching what various bands I like use, has brought me here. Long story short.....
LOVE LOVE LOVE your show. You guys are easy to learn from, and very entertaining. I have the shows running in the background while I work the day job at the computer.
Just wanted to say thanks, and keep up the good work! Will have a peep at the store soon. Happy to support. Love from the west coast here state-side.
+Tyson Stole That's awesome Tyson, thanks for the message and great to have you on board! As you're no doubt discovering, there are soooooo many pedals available now. But the good news is that most of em sound pretty good., especially if you start with the classics.
Hope you enjoy catching up on some shows, and indeed all the rest that are still to come. Cheers!
+Tyson Stole That's awesome Tyson, thanks for the message and great to have you on board! As you're no doubt discovering, there are soooooo many pedals available now. But the good news is that most of em sound pretty good., especially if you start with the classics.
Hope you enjoy catching up on some shows, and indeed all the rest that are still to come. Cheers!
Glad you did this with the Wampler Pedal platform. No better way to get the real colour of a pedal than this. I hope it is a keeper for your show. I know it is dear, but gives such an unbiased demo of the pedals.
Peace
The Tremotron is totally rad! Loved the sound of the Bravado too...really lets the pedals breathe. Dan's Tele tho....👍🏼
Peavey Bandit clean channel is my idea of a pedal platform. Warm with a bit of transformer magic when it gets going.
Ok, I've said it before, I sound like a broken record I know...
That riff/phrase at 23:00-23:13...!!!!!!!!! If its not part of a recorded song, Mick PLEASE!!!! MAKE IT ONE!!!!!
Really, make a song out of it!!!!I absolutely friggin love it!
The Wampler was so warm. Figures, I just bought my first Wampler pedal which I just love. I think Brian did it again.
The wampler handles the reverbs and delays so well. It's so detailed and clean. Would be interesting to hear a wet dry rig using the wampler for the wet effects, and a more traditionally shaped amp for the dry.
Lol I love that the knobs on the front of the Wampler even hint at the obvious collaboration or at least consultation with Joe Morgan. The clean sound reminds me a lot of my SW22, how it kind of sounds like it has a compressor on it no matter what.
A Tally for those who own a Fender HRD! I love mine. I bought it used from Long & McQuades rentals. Tip-Look up Hot Rod Deluxe Settings on Yahoo, then select images for a break down of dial settings!
I like how my dual Orange Micro Terror rig sounds. I leave the eq at 12 O'Clock. I have several high quality overdrives which sound very amp like, used like multi-channels on an an amp. I leave my amps on clean, but I use a parametric eq to shape the overall tone which sets well with my rig. I am using this method, due to not being able to afford an expensive multi-channel amplifier. It works great for me. If I had a Mesa Boogie TC-50, I wouldn't have to use all those overdrives. I think the concept of a pedal platform amp makes a lot of sense. Since, some amp don't work as well with pedals.
+JRPowellIIIMusic yep, agreed, after, what's a 100w HiWatt if not a classic pedal platform amp
Bought a Marshall JTM45 (Bassman clone) in 1990-ish specifically as a pedal platform. Cleaner than most I never even try and get it to break up, it doesn't get any louder anyway and plugged into the high/bright channel on about 4 it's a huge clean sound that burnishes anything fed through it. Think about it, all the hype about powerful pickups driving valve amps - what is a pickup if not solid-state? Solid state into a valve amp sounds great - the amp warms S-S pedals up a treat.
There's a fourth type of "guitar player" - amp or rack, plus effects and/or pedals. Not as prominent out there any more, but still there. :)
Tone is so personal, that said, I always have found that if you find the best clean tone to your ears, dynamic, big sounding... you are all set. Just add pedals to add color or not. I am a Clean tone leaning player. You may need two amps for different size venues if you like to stay at that perfect point in the amps volume range. So a tweed deluxe type and a 6l6 type. Just my two cents. Love this channel. Helped me find great pedals.
G'day from 'Straya, Mick and Dan-o! Thanks for the vids, love them to bits. Suggestion: what about a video on MIDI for pedalboards-- what it is, how it works, and what you can do with it on a pedalboard? Heaps of pedals have MIDI I/O's that never get used. How do we "harness the power of MIDI"? Keep up the great work!
I use a jc40 as my pedal platform. it can literally do EVERYTHING. it is a deceitful amp in the sense that it's so neutral (sterile?) that most view it as a plug and play, which does work like that if that's what you want. But if you dig deep and actually mess with it, it has features that allow it to actually fix it's flaws. fucking crazy, but upon giving it the time of day, I stumbled upon a happy accident. Now, with the right pedals, I can play pretty brutal sounding metal, and soft jazz if I want. The important factor aside from actually sitting down and messing with the amps features is making sure you get the right pedals for the desired application. because if the amp does not vibe, it's usually the pedals fault. of course im still only talking about the jc40. I realize it's a very polarizing amp, but if you actually give it the time and effort to understand it, you will be rewarded with a universal (and pleasant) clean, transparent, tone for your guitar and pedals
Luis Barrera Lots of 'rock' amps have quite 'sterile' clean channels which make them better choices as platforms for pedals. My Peavey Valveking with an Eminence speaker is a great pedal amp.
Would love to see you guys doing a fender pro jr. Similar to a champ. One volume, one tone. You've done a blues jr. before but would love to see what some of your pedals sound like through an amp that's super simple, super straightforward
In this episode, Mick does impressions... Excellent.
2:31 Your American impression of Wampler really makes me giggle 😂
Great show as ALWAYS boys! Now I understand technically why my '75 Ampeg.VT22(120 watts) takes pedals SO well ; virtually unlimited headroom and crystal clear( Altech Lansing speakers) It was a pedal platform, ahead of its time
Great show! Love Wampler's stuff. Show idea - Load boxes i.e. Suhr Reactive load, Torpedo Live vs. mic cabs for recording. Thanks for all great information you're providing to the guitar community.
+Gary Duvall We're trying to figure out how to do that Gary. It's a huge production job that requires interfaces, monitoring and all that business, whereas as the mo we just stick the mics on and we like it. Maybe we could try a couple of shows where we use both methods and make our observations after we've mixed the audio. Hmmmmm
Good show D&M!! Just came back from jamming with my stupidly irresponsibly huge pedal board with a Fender Deluxe .. this episode reminded me why I should have sucked it up and brought my bigger amp with some decent midrange! Thanks again fellas!!
This was unexpectedly fascinating. Thanks very much, guys!
+Robstafarian you're so welcome
One thing I have been thinking about is looking at the best rig to cover dirty tones, could you do a video that looks at using a clean amp with pedals giving all the gain, an amp on the edge of breakup where you can boost it into overdrive with pedals, and a dirty amp, so you would basically have either 100% pedal gain, ~50/50 pedal/amp gain, and 100% amp gain, and the positives and negatives with each set up?
I've been a fan of the show since the beginning and I've learned A LOT of stuff over these episodes. But what I liked most of all was the objective approach and the comparing of different pedals/amps within a certain theme. I kinda missed the other pedal platform options in this one. Just a full feature of the Bravado, which does sound preeeeetty nice, but not even a mention to the classic Hiwatt amps for instance... these are highly regarded as perfect pedal platforms. Dunno, made to whole episode seems like a 49 minute Wampler commercial.
+Marijn Slot you mean aside from the constant A/Bing to the Lonestar?
Exactly... "Normally" you guys would have at least a few other options.
They barely had time to do whzt they did, would like 2 c other amps included as well but, sooo much gear so little time.
Ello Mates! Long time viewer first time requester! Please review or explain the BBE Sonic Stomp! Love mine! Last in the chain and it cleans the signal up. Adds a buttery fullness I can't explain. Based on the rack system(Sonic Maximizer), it supposedly lines up the signal for the amp. Imagine( + & -) all jumbled up. Signal could get fizzy. This is supposed to line them up. Could be wrong, don't quote me! Also is it considered a boost?
Great One! The Bravado seems a great AMP indeed!! What amuse me is how you guys always have an even volume when changing or even stacking pedals. This is the magic of:
A) 2 guys and one keeps on moving knobs?;
B) A lot o planning before getting everything even?;
C) Some sort of Limiter on the Video?
A show on this would also be great. Cheers
Interesting, guys. My main amp (right now) is a David Allen version of a Deluxe but with 6L6GC s and a Gz34 - without a normal channel. Sounds similar to Brian’s amp but not identical. Works well with the same family of pedals. Pete.
I have learned so much because of your channel. Thank you! And your videos are entertaining.
My pedals came alive when i started playing through my Quilter Pro Block 200 and Micro Pro Mach 2. You simply must try out the Quilter line of amps. They are so good that you won't believe they are Solid State amps.
This is fabulous... you guys are getting better and better as presenters, which is really great to see. I'd love to see the Wampler side by side with the Hamstead, which I understand is also a great pedal platform? Also, I'd be interested to know what pedals do you think would NOT work with either the Wampler or the Hamstead. Thanks to you both.
A hidden gem amp for that application is a Carvin X100B if you are on a budget ;) . They really take well pedal and the variable power section and the graphic EQ are really useful. However, you have to be really careful with the EQ section because it is very drastic.
Lukather once said in an interview that the "Rosanna" tone was a Les Paul through a Rivera-modded blackface Deluxe Reverb. He also had "a couple of Marshalls done up by Paul". It makes sense in the context what Rivera later did with his own amp line. (Also, FWIW, I called the Rivera customer service number awhile back with questions about modding my R55; Paul Rivera Sr himself picked up the phone and answered my questions.)
Hey dudes. What about an episode about exact opposite. "Amps that are not Pedal Platforms, and the pedals that work with them." i.e. Orange Amps.
Thanks dudes, these videos are of utmost help.
T- Hawk As another Orange I agree with this. On the other hand I've found a lot of pedals that work with a small Orange amp. Only ones that don't are the Mid hump overdrives.
OCD, Timmy, Xotic BB, Zendrive all work great just be careful of eq.
Sorry if I'm teaching you to suck eggs though
How about a Part 2? An AC style pedal, a Tweed style pedal along with the Marshall voiced pedal?
+Matthew Eldredge That's a good idea. We have all three....... hmmmmm
Matthew Eldredge sorry, I just wrote something similar having not spotted your comment before. Yeh, tweed and anything else that's an amp in a box.
Matthew Eldredge add hiwatt pedal into the mix
Love that pristine Wampler clean, but its a shame it costs a fortune.
This confirms my long held view that master volume crushes the tone of an amp. The only exception to this I have found are the original Dave Reeves Hiwatt amps of the 70s and 80s. Love the show.
+Ian Wilson We understand where you're coming from Ian. It my be a bit reductive to say that about every MV amp, and indeed plenty of MV amps can sound great with the master dialled up higher. But yes, we know what you mean. Cheers!
As always, brilliant job, Gents! Was that an intentional Spinal Tap musical joke at 22:42? I'd like to hear a similar conversation on one of your Bedroom Tones videos. What amps, simulators, etc take pedals and perform in a desirable way at the lower volumes required to keep spouses, neighbours, and landlords happy. Thanks very much for what you are doing in the Guitar and Audio Community!
+Bud McNelson Hey Bud, so glad you got the Tap reference. Not sure if I played the right chords, but it just popped into my head as I was playing. :0)
We did a show on Bedroom Tones a few weeks back. Same rules apply really, although everything has a different dynamic at lower volume. You don't hear the nuances and detail and dynamics in the same way.... cheers!
I'd love to hear you guys' impression of the ZT Lunchbox, especially as a pedal platform amp.
+jgodin312 we'll check it out
jgodin312 yes! Love my ZT. Goes nice with a klone or the MI crossover drive. I also dig using the headphone out to the desk at rehearsals for extra spread. Would be keen to hear how others use theirs - and to hear how these guys would go with it.
I second the request to hear the ZT.
Mick - that sequence you play at 9:27 is really, really sweet! About time for you to transcribe/teach some of this stuff that just shows up when you're noodling!
+Vincent Tuckwood Transcribe?! Hahahahaha. Maybe somebody else can do it. I honestly wouldn't have a clue how to do that, let alone teach anyone. But thank you!
Yes, but was it a pick-scrape at bar 3, 3rd beat, or was it a fret squeak? We need to know!!! It's important! Just keep doing what you do, it's great :)
My old Sovtek Mig50 is an amazing Pedal Amp. Electro Harmonix have just released their sovtek reissue and are marketing it as a great pedal amp.
+Old New York I had a Mig50, just awesome sounding
My main amp is a Fender Deluxe clone and it works great with my pedals, so it's interesting to hear that Brian based his amp on that circuit, though heavily modified. I like the changes he made, such as a multi-position bright switch and even more power.
I remember tech 21 doing an amp like this but it was solid state. I checked it out like 15 years ago and it was not half bad..but it never could replace my Fender Deville. I've been doing this for years with several different amps...it is totally killer that a company as high profile as Wampler is catering to the pedal junkies of the world with an amp built specifically as a platform!
Great show as always! There are some GigRig videos that cover pedalboard building, but it might be cool to bring that into this format and build a PT Jr sized board start to finish, explaining pedal choices, arrangement, power and cable choices, etc. If someone hasn't seen the GigRig stuff, it may be a good introduction in this format.
Been eyeing this amp, but of course just ordered the Victory V-40 this week! Been meaning to suggest an episode thats focusing on tubes? Different types of pre-amp and power amp. For example, I switched my Blues Deluxe to a NOS 5751 tube and cleaned it up to more of a pedal platform, love it! Will try it on the Victory as well. Thanks guys!
Does anyone else think of Dizzee Rascal every time Mick says Wampler?
+Rob Holiday Bonkers
That Pedal Show Get Guthrie in for a show!
Rob Holiday ppp
I think of Guthrie Govan every time someone says Dizzee Rascal.
I would like to give a shout out to the Port City Pearl amplifier. Another GREAT "pedal platform" amp.
It has been a while, maybe there could be an updated video on this topic (or did I miss - then shame on me!)? I'd love to see the Tube Workshop TWS 2864-S from Germany to be tested by you. It is said to be designed as a pedal platform amp, so it might be quite something! Thank you very much for your great show, you helped me quite a lot with my sound!
for half the price & more signature/iconic tone go with the Fender Deluxe reverb
Tech 21 has been making pedal platform amps for a decade or more with their Power Engine series, adding a DI for FOH sound. They're solid state.
I bought a newer 5150 iii. 50 watt this last winter. I have recently started to use the clean channel as a pedal platform. Have not had a chance to gig with it cause my band broke up. But I like the results Ive Been getting. Watch a few artists using Mogans like that and found it interesting.
It’s pretty much all I’ve ever done - Mick here - and it’s Dan’s preferred approach too. More headroom (albeit with a level of natural overdrive for certain applications/amps) and the right pedals. Or a slightly overdriving amp like a Plexi or AC30 and a booster. It’s how I learned to play with dynamics. Nice!
I can't thank you guys enough for all the useful stuff I've learned from watching your videos. I enjoy listening to both of you play and share the amazing insight and experience you have. Inspired by your video(s), I tried something I've not tried before. I cranked my WEM Dominator III all the way to the top just to see how it sounds and how much top end it has. Well fuck me (sorry only word that conveys my surprise), I knew it was a nice amp but I didn't realise how nice. Rolling off the guitar volume gives an amazing clean tone, and when I turn the guitar up (using a tele black top) the amp has a wonderful growling overdrive. It sounds like an early Marshall IMO. I had no idea my amp could do this. I could only play for a few minutes mind you before my neighbours started complaining (ooops). In conclusion the WEM doesn't have as much head room as I thought it had, but it's still a great amp that takes pedals well. Coincidentally, I have a few overdrive pedals, the one that sounds the best with my amp is probably the Wampler Plexidrive.
Thanks again guys. I've learned more about pedals and amps from watching your videos than all the other channels combined, and I still have a shit load to learn, so keep up the good work.
+fishy paw Thank you! Would have good to hear the ol Wem cranked! Good sounds in there for sure. Glad you enjoy the show too - thanks for watching!
I've been thinking of taking the WEM to a local rehearsal studio so that I can play with it properly. If I do I will definitely record some of it and bung it on RUclips. The world deserves to know how nice it sounds. :0)
Thanks for replying. I may be new to your channel but I am now one of your biggest fans. Cheers.
It's totally me, but all I can think of while listening to this amplifier is that is a "rational" choice. After the episodes where you went bananas playing vintage, exotic stuff this seems like an amp that you would just play covers with. Unless one has some amazing super-rare effects, wouldn't choose this one over another that being tonally imperfect augments player's personality (of course when chosen adequately).
Utilitarian amp for me (not necessarily a bad thing) and as you concluded an "interesting addition to the market". Highly educative episode, guys!
+szpfryderyk Very interesting! A lot of people want utility - that's exactly what they want. Cheers!
I know everyone says it's not the right way to use it, but I find my Bassbreaker works great on a low gain setting as a toneful clean amp for using pedals.
7:32 It is possible to get a good (clean) sound going straight to front of house, but you have to account for what a speaker cabinet is doing; namely acting as a band-pass filter. Pedals are designed with the assumption that they will be run through a speaker that shores off everything below about 80Hz and everything above 6kHz.
I've gotten an awesome sound with a baritone telecater into a Bogner Ecstacy Blue set clean and strait to a DI. I had to turn the treble way down compared to running it into an amp. It was more Hi-Fi sounding than an amp, but it was a cool sound.
Guys! Awesome show!! I dig it! Always waiting every sigle friday ready for a new video! Keep it up guys!
Just a little request for an upcoming video... perhaps do a video explaining ALL the wiring needed for a dual rig, how a pedal board should be wired and placed for a confortable set on the pedals and the amp and its fx loop... maybe also how to use a gigrig to make it easier to plug everything together... ... ... is just a suggestion, you still do a great job, so keep the videos coming, you guys! Big fan here!
+Abraham Urias We are planning a whole, separate series concerning stuff like this. It'll be called 'Basics' or something less dull than that. Cheers!
all i've ever wanted, thank you guys so much!
P.S. Get the JMOD100 on the show!
What makes a good pedal amp is what makes a good amp, imo. For me, that means it first needs to sound great without pedals. I look for touch sensitivity, headroom and a volume sweet spot that's appropriate to the application. If I then plug in a Strat and each position on the selector switch sounds like a different guitar, I'm a happy camper.
+Mojo Bone yep, agree 100% :)
OCD into Lonestar perked my ears right up!
Love the show,, best part of my Friday 'in the office'
Awesome show. Been waiting for someone to review the Bravado. Brian is one smart creative guy. I'm hoping he does a low wattage version. I think it would helpful if you had a camera on the amp controls when you're tweaking the controls...like how you show the G2 board and pedals. Looking forward to your attenuator comparison show.
With regard to pedalplatform amps, get your hands on the Mad Professor Old School 51RT amp. It takes pedals very well!
Glad to hear you guys are bringing in a Hot Rod Deluxe. It will bring a "real world" element to the demos.
+jbognap Yeah, it'll be good to have a HRD. We won't use it for everything, but when it comes to relevant pedal comparisons, it will appear! Cheers!
Hey guys! Love the show!! Genrally i get the feeling that the speaker itself has a lot to do with the overall EQ-curve of any amp. This has to effect the pedal of choice, primarily overdrive, distorsion and fuzz. Any chanses of making a video on: using the same head and switching speakers? In conjunction with pedals. I.E. "What speaker works best with a mid hump pedal" etc. Cheers!
I use the Roland JC40 for a clean slate for my pedals. Great base for coloring with my sizable pedalboard. Love the tone and stereo ins & outs!
+Randall Carlson We should get one. Been impressed with it on the few times we've tried em.
Another corking show, fellas! Like that Wampler kit is getting an airing, too.
BTW: Did you guys see Brian W's video interview with Mrs Wampler? Gave a really interesting perspective on this stuff.
So, given your previous comments about what you can & cannot use (not allowed to use???) at home, may I humbly suggest that there's a case for Mrs Dan & Mrs Mick to share their thoughts in a similar manner????
Hahaha! We will lobby Mrs Dan and Mick (two separate people, just for the record) to see if they'll do a show....
What would be cool is if an indepth discussion about different clipping types and diodes.
"it sounds like a toilet." That deserves a like
The Lukather solo with a cranked Fender is the 'Hold the Line' solo. There's a video of him describing that somewhere.
Excellent as always but , for me, if it's a pedal platform amp I'd have like to have seen some more amp in the box pedals going through it - Fender, Vox, Boogie ,etc, flavoured - to see how they worked, if I was buying a platform amp I'd want it to be versatile.
+philip Ellis That's looking like round 2 Philip, as we learn more about it. Cheers!
Btw, I bought the MXR reverb on yalls recommendation, and its fantastic.
Give it some love in the front end missus! Oo-er missus!! =P I'm stealing that one Mick. Another brilliant show guys, been waiting for this for a while. Definitely gonna have to save to get a Bravado! Jason's cab sounded great too.
Wow, the Pro Analog mkIV sounded ace through either amp. Preferred it through the Bravado but still great through the Lonestar. Killer pedal and killer show as always. Cheers!
Have you tried a Carr Rambler? It's an excellent "pedal platform" amp. I use two in a stereo setup with an extensive pedalboard and you can hear everything. Tons of dynamic range and detail. Have Steve send you one!
+studio therefore I have tried one and absolutely loved it. Would love to get one on the show
I really like the clean channel on my rockerverb 50. Kinda does what the Bravado does here. I've only recently been adding different overdrives on my board. Now I feel like I have a 3 or 4 channel amp! The overdrive channel is killer for those more compressed leads. I used to only be about amp overdrive/distortion. Now I'm happily both pedals and straight amp. Two channels FTW!
+Julien Valois Dobbie We love that approach. Clean channel for pedals, OD for another texture and the amp drive you love. Why not indeed?!
Normally really like the KOT but interesting sounds in today's show - I thought the Plexi Drive into the Bravado killed it. Especially with Mick's Collings...holy hell that was insane tone. Thanks for all you do guys!
+Scott Card no probs Scott. The KoT was set up with a lot less gain, but the PD did sound exceptional
@thatpedalshow This will probably sound like a foolish question but what about this amp isn't making you jump out of your shoes and say, "You must have this!"? You know, is there something about it that makes you think it's for a special type of player/tone chaser? I ask because I am in the market for an amp and wonder (I've got a Fender Blues Deluxe and a little Marshall Class V running side-by-side by the way.) if this Wampler "Built For Pedals" Amp platform is absolutely the way to go. But...what would you suggest we consider in purchasing this particular amp over a Dr. Z, Twin Rock, Marshall, Fender Twin Reverb, etc.? Sorry for droning on.
And Brian's next pedal ... The Bravado-In-A-Box?!
+Ishan Cooper Hahahahaha!!!!!