How to Choose a Pedal Platform Amp | Reverb Tone Report
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- Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024
- If you're an effects head with a robust pedalboard, it's super important to make sure you're plugging into an amp that best suits your setup. Today, Andy Martin is exploring a few of the best choices pedal players have. Read More on Reverb: bit.ly/3coyyqa
"Pedal platform amp" is just a fancy term for Andy's "Here's the clean tone"
This is great
"pedal platform amp" is just a fancy term for "i dont know how amplifiers work"
Is an HM-2 directly into desk a pedal platform amp?
*oh yeah*
Only if it's on a platform at the time.
A DOISH
A Tech 21 British or Tri A.C. would be better, though.
When I started playing decades after the band broke up, My HM-2 and DD-2 were the pedals that didn't come back.
But the HiWatt did.
an often overlooked and inexpensive platform amp are the cube 40xl, 60xl and 80xl. Has a JC Clean setting, is built to be thrown down the stairs, and just works. I got the 80xl for less than a hundred bucks on craigslist
I did not have good luck with pedals on the Roland Cube. Mesa F-30 is the best pedal platformer I’ve personally used.
@@zerosoma33 "pedal platforms" are a myth for suckers and for pedal manufacturers
Most of the skills can be achieved by the time...lot of the tones can be optimised along the way...but the taste is something natural you are born with or not. Andy is always on spot. Like deadly.
What about that Hiwatt behind you?
Best Pedal Platform by a mile.
I have three. They are a goddamn delight with pedals.
"Hmmm... I think it has potential." (*looks left, looks right, smiles slowly*)
The best.. Havve a g100r.
No headroom. My '72 DR504 languishes these days while I use the AC15!
Joking! It's just too load on 1 and my back is not what it was 30 years ago.
i LOVE my BB preamp comp.... i’m SO glad it’s getting some love
I just scored a nice pedal platform holy grail for $500 on Craigslist...59 bassmann LTD. Use the channel jumper trick with reverb and delay patched in as a quassi effects loop.
Michael Whitten
Awesome deal on ‘59 Bassman Reissue. You are correct it is an amazing pedal platform.
I have been doing that for years. Let me save you time and money...............Catalinbread Topanga reverb. Mix to 100%. I have tried them all.
@@oig40203 Tried Source Audio True Spring Yet? Or Surfy Bear?
@@ImpostorModanica Yes to True Spring. I did not think it was as good as J. Rockett Boing, which is a GREAT pedal, but does not have mix knob to dial 100% wet into loop. I still have Boing on board. I Have not tried Surfy Bear.
How are you guys able to score these amazing amps at such low prices?
Over here in Europe(I.e. Germany) it simply isn’t possible.
I paid more for my 1993 Made in USA Fender Blues DeVille 4x10 (the closest „affordable“ option I could get to come close to the Bassman tone and speaker configuration..)
But since it is so damn loud and I’m a living room player, I’m still looking for someone who is willing to trade his Princeton or deluxe reverb for my 60 watt beast of an amplifier.
Fender Hot Rod Deluxe III has been my pedal platform since 2012 and it hasn’t failed me since!
I’ve been using a Blackstar Artisan 30 for the last five years. Holy Shit!!! It’s an amazing pedal platform and built like a tank. It does weigh 90lbs though. But the tone is amazing.
i just pictured andy without hair and it distressed me greatly
thanks
U ruined my life
Lex Luthor
... yeeeeez...
JC-120 was, is and shall always be the best “pedal platform amp”. Not to mention it’s loud as all hell and built like a tank.
There is a reason that many the classic postpunk, dreampop and shoegaze bands (all pedal heavy genres) used it heavily. Look on stage at a Slowdive concert and take note of the JC-120s on display.
@Halli Day
Yes. Back then, we used Fender Offset guitars and amps like the JC series simply because they were around and didn't cost more than your Dad's annual income. Nobody could afford a Fender Strat, but the used Jags and JMs were pretty cheap, and every pawn shop had a few JC-40s, 120s, maybe a Marshall *something* if you were lucky.
Vox was probably the most attainable valve amp option, but that was more early-mid 90s. The red knob Fenders (I had a solid state one, served me very well) were also readily available if not quite as affordable as the Rolands, especially the valve red-knobs. Brings back memories of me and my friends' rigs. We didn't really know what we were doing at first, but we made the best of it and now we can teach all the young 'uns about the magic of a Jag into a JC-120/AC15 wet/dry rig :)
I think Johnny Greenwood from Radiohead still uses a solid state red knob Fender+AC30 reissue in his live rig and he sounds fantastic.
pedal platform is a myth lmao
Been saving for one. please tell me im making the right choice
My favourite reasonably priced pedal platform amp is the Ibanez Tubescreamer amp and cab combo.
Am I the only one who thinks that reverb into a dirty amp sounds amazing?
Loud Spirits it really depends how wet you have the reverb set, but it can really sound amazing!
It can sound nice but can also bury the guitar in the mix because of too much harmonic content. The distortion tries to clip the reverb and creates mush.
yes
Worked for my bloody valentine, i guess it works for me.
@@nathanricker1 based
My EVH 5150iii 50w takes reverb so good in the front for high gain. Legit best high gain reverb sound I’ve heard.
A good pedal platform amp that I've been keeping my eye on is the Keeley Supro. I've been wanting one for a while now.
It’s a fantastic amp. I own and live it
I had it. Hated it. I wanted to like it because it looked so good but it wasn't for me.
Came for tips
Stay 'cos Andy looks so cool with that PRS
Andy offers a incredible playing as always! Reverb demos are a true oasis of high end guitar playing!
Reverb demos are trash
Blackstar Artist 30, twin 12 speakers...great amp for pedals, two channels, effects loop, ISF gives both Marshall and Fender flavours, tonnes of headroom, c.£800. Brilliant amplifier.
The problem with clean tube amps at lower volumes is that there's no real advantage to just getting a decently voices solid state amp(and a lot of them are increasingly good at emulating tube-like sag), so it's definitely worth considering that too.
Sister Rose Agreed. The point of using a tube amp is to find and ride the point the power-amp is starting to sustain/sag, then push it over with distortion, overdrive or a little preamp. I have great tube amps and use them that way. I also have a Nextone Stage, and push its power-amp the same way, and it sounds very good, costs a lot less and is smaller and lighter. The real difference then becomes the size of the cabinet and how well it spreads the sound; the Stage tends to beam the sound where the bigger tube combos spread it around the room.
@@8sigreg honestly what a lot of people think of as "tube sound" is just speakers & tone stack that round off the high end in a pleasing way and asymmetrical/less harsh clipping, as you only really get the sag when pushed to serious volumes. Which you can achieve by getting a decent SS amp, maybe doing a speaker swap, and throwing a Boss SD-1 in front of it(even better if you can get an FET based dirt box which emulates the "complexities" of a lot of tube amps pretty well). A lot of people are just using high headroom amps with a bunch of dirtboxes nowadays. There's a reason why lower wattage small tubers took off, but a lot of them didn't do the big saggy sound very well sadly, they were more for quirky gritty types of distortion you'd get from a decent vintage SS amp anyway. Also, some of them(at least the one I have) don't take pedals very well at all.
I’ve been using solid state amps forever, and just got my first tube amp a couple years ago. Kinda wish I went for a new solid state (I’ve been using a 15W Made in USA Peavey for 20 years as my practice amp) and use some good drive pedals instead. I’m not a fan of needing to crank a tube amp to power amp breakup and blowing out my ears; you just can’t practice with that at any volume that’s going to make it sound good without cranking it. It’s not talked about enough, but those loud ass tube amps are really great at destroying your hearing. No hearing = no music. That would be the most depressing point in my life.
Andy with a PRS oh god I’d buy an entire album of that
Got me a vintage Lab Series L5 it’s nice
Loved my L7
My little Fender Champion 20 is surprisingly decent as a platform when practicing at home, if (and I can't stress this enough), you're using it on the clean Tweed setting. All the other settings will turn you favorite fuzz into the sonic equivalent of undercooked McDonald's
I have a champion 40 and I use it exclusively on the clean channel
Fenders and Peavey Classics have always been my favs for pedal platforms. I find Marshalls thin out too much with overdrive, and if you run them clean, they lose too many dynamics, whereas Fenders, like the Deluxe Reverb, really get out of the way of the pedals and act as a great tonal base without getting obnoxious. The Peavey classic is really what most players who want a Marshall sound should go for. They sound incredible and work great with pedals. I also love the Fender Bassman and Princeton as a platform. But I don't get why one would get a high gain amp, with excellent gain, like an Orange and run and overdrive pedal for the gain, which will be far inferior to what the Orange will produce naturally. Another thing, regarding effects in general, is that some effects loops sound terrible. Some, in fact, are very noisy. I find that effects loops also tend to work best for everything BUT distortion pedals in most amps that have one.
I use a Marshall JTM45, which is really a Bassman clone, down to the 6L6'S that mine has. Mine has a clean, huge, burnished sound that is great for front-ending pedals into. I never jump the channels, just plug into high/bright and I'm good to go.
I'm using the Tone King Gremlin with Ocean's 11 reverb. I wouldn't necessarily call that wattage of amp generally low headroom, it depends on the usage. On the higher attenuation settings it does do really loud clean tones for home use and small venues. But the effect of reverb/modulation pre or post gain on overdriven amps is massive.
It's not about wattage. Wattage represents the amount of electrical signal that is going from the power amp to the speaker and has little to do with the preamp stage of the amplifier (where gain is generated on most amps). A 1 watt amp can have tons of clean headroom. A 100 watt amp can have no clean headroom.
Never thought a PRS would suit Andy so well!
His ear, knowledge and chops are at a level where the gear is only marginally important, because he will find what it can do well and make it sound great.
This video serves as an informative time capsule of how new Fender amps were priced just 2.5 years ago. The 65 Princeton Reverb Reissue was $1099 in 2020, and it now costs $1299. The Deluxe Reverb was $1449 and it now costs $1599. As a person who is in the market for a new amp, it's history like this that makes me think that Fender can go suck my leg.
You do understand that if you look used 1st, you might not be scared off so bad. But that being said I have needed anything very expensive for yrs now. Got enough to keep my G A S in check.
@@sparkyguitar0058 I understand this well. I ended up recently buying a lightly used Vox AC30S1-CB for $600. It’s a truly amazing sounding amp and it’s around half the price of comparable new Fender amp.
Jan 2024 the 65 Princeton reverb is at my local music store for $1929.99
I play guitar in a duo band (drums and guitar) and I've been playing through a bass amp because I use the boss octave pedal a lot. Would you recommend still using a guitar amp or using a bass amp? I still like the tone I can get out of my Jazzmaster through my bass amp. I'm currently using a GK MB112
Maybe you could get another guitar amp and split the signal???
Keep it that way
Some pedals are designed to work more flexibly pre ,or post gain; Howard's Catalin designs, - the Topanga and Talisman, for example, - hold up well, and can be dialed into either.I found the Oceans 11 particularly unsuitable to pre driven sounds, even for the "Shoegaze/ Post Rock," applications where it is standard practice; this is commonly the case with less expensive digital circuits.They rapidly turn into shapeless mush.
Walrus also offer some verbs and delays that work well, either way; but those classic, original, Catalinbread designs had a lot of thought and experience put into them, outside of what were just standard, accepted, approaches.
Am I the only one who thinks Andy is Paul Rudd's brother?
g g His cool brother!
Could an appearance with Tim and Eric be on the cards if so?
No, I think Paul Rudd is Andy’s brother.
Or james may?
Paul had a babby with Leonard Hofstetter
I own the Victory V40 the duchess and its an amazing pedal platform amp.
How can this video NOT have a Vox or a Marshall?
Marshall DSL40CR if you want a bright clean platform for pedals; Fender Blues Junior if your want some dirty clean tones for your pedals. There... saved you thousands of dollars and this video
I got a blackface twin with a cmods brownie nothing better .puts all these new amps to shame. Good video
Dude great video and great guitar playing as well!!!!
I've been using a V30 MKI for my pedal platform. Great clean but also has one of the greatest OD channels
Damn! That PRS!
Oh yeah, Andy on a PRS :D :D FINALLYYYYYY!!!!!
Holy that intro...
cody mangum so sick
cody mangum Thanks! Getting a Terminator soundtrack vibe from it now though 😎
AndyDemos they wish!
Yay, new Andy vid!
subscribe to andydemos. hes been uploading to his own channel more frequently.
What about Roland jazz chorus?
divyansh srivastava perfect at the upper two wattages
A mate had a JC160 and from memory it was superb.
I'm curious since I have the Roland Jazz chorus as my amp. Is this amp a good platform for effects?
It’s awesome for pedals
Sure is (JC40 here).
Arguably one of the best.
I got the jc-22 and I play small gigs. Will that work?
JC-22? Nope. A solid state Boss Katana 50 (used for under US $200), or a Monoprice 15 watt tube Stage Right (US $250) would both take pedals well and work even in most medium size venues.
I’m really lovin’ my hughes & kettner tubemeister 18 twelve combo as a pedal platform. It has a great clean channel that works beautifully with distortionpedals and even fuzz when I crank the gain. 👍
I love this PRS. Looks sick!
Carvin vintage series is my go to
Any good budget ones?
Bugera V22 and V55
Ibanez TSA15
Mesa TA15
As someone else said the Ibanez TSA amps are massively overlooked. It’s like a cheap deluxe reverb.
Monoprice Stage Right Tube 15. (US $250)
I’m running a boss katana 50 and sometimes I wish I was better at making it work with my pedals.
What's wrong?
What about an Orange Rocker 15 Terror for some bedroom and Jam Session Sound levels?
2 Peavey Bandits, 1 silver stripe, 1 red stripe, run stereo from line 6 HX effects....no dirt from the HX....use a couple pedals....big muff, etc.....heaven
john evans I used a silver stripe for a year or two, sounded great with a little drive in front
Please can you do a video demoing the boss me80
Im using a Mesa California Tweed - it is an exceptional pedal platform. I run a Strymon Riverside through the front end with a BOSS DD-500. Sounds great.
I’ve been considering grabbing one. How does it sound with fuzz? I love the fat creaminess of the California tweed
Unbelievable! Didn’t even mention the amp specifically designed to take pedals extremely well and so one of the absolute best pedal platforms out there ! Not only that but they have a brilliant emulated output , effects loop, reverb etc.
Next time at least mention the Blackstar Artist 30, Artist 15, Studio 10, ( Artist10AE).
Somebody did mention the Artist 10 up near the top of the comments. But not Andy
What are the patch cables you used in the video? Thank you for your consistent, high quality content, Andy :)
What amp are you guys using as a pedal platform?
I would like to see different approaches.
In my opinion, my Mesa mark IV's clean channel sounds amazing
A Princeton 1965 Blackface Reissue. It's a limited edition model with 15 watts and a 12" Jensen (as opposed to the standard 12 watts / 10"). Sounds great with everything.
I play an old Acoustic 140 head through a Sunn 1x18, great for bass and guitar and plenty of headroom! I also really like the Fender Bassbreaker 45 and wish I never sold mine :(
A bugera v22
boss katana 100
Andy uses his MXR Dyna Comp with the same settings I used to put on.
By the way, the Fender Custom Deluxe Reverb '68 is a good pedal platform. The one is presented on the video.
That PRS is beautiful
The Port City Pearl is the best pedal platform amp I have ever played.
Ive got a heavily modified deluxe reverb clone- normal channel modded as a brownface. For fuzz, mixed results comparing brownface with blackface. Mid scoop pedals like big muff, bee baa, fuzzmaster fm-2 sound better/less fizzy with brownface. My colorsound one knob sounds killer through blackface channel but too dark through the brownface. I play at bedroom volumes at home FYI.
Hey Andy! I have that same 68 Deluxe Reverb Reissue. I see you're plugged into the 1st 'Vintage' input, but curious what your typical settings are when recording (volume, treble, and bass)? Also curious when or how often you change the treble and bass settings?
Andy is so tasteful he makes his "your probably don't it to sound like this" parts sound good
I use a Fender Blues jr which has no effects loop. Set the gain at 1/4 and adjust volume to suit. All pedals sound killer thru this amp and it's plenty loud. Also using a Mesa F30. Pedal order matters and just run your reverbs and delays thru the amps effects loop if it has one and u plan on using the amps dirty channel or just keep your amp on a clean setting and run all your pedals thru the front.
Couldn't agree more!
Just put your germanium fuzz first!
It's a crime they don't make higher end Deluxe Reverbs with FX loops.
Does the Tone Master version have an FX loop? (Yeah, I know it's not tubes/valves)
Not sure why you would want an FX loop on a Deluxe Reverb? It’s high headroom, just go into the front
@@VintageRadius if they use looper's regularly a loop is a must.
@@pastorkev777 what about just putting the looper last in signal chain? I get it that some people like an FX loop, especially if they are getting overdrive/gain from their amp’s preamp section. Maybe im missing the obvious but i imagine that most use a Deluxe with pedals in front for OD and time based effects. Im sure there are exceptions - if your OD comes from just cranking your Deluxe to 10. But no sure that is practical these days.
@@VintageRadius that works for light looper work if the sounds are clean to start with. The input of an amp can only handle so much content until it sounds like mush. Not shoegaze wide, but distorted almost in a nasty square wave way that is hardly musical for most. The effects loop allows for greater fidelity, but the speaker itself has its limits.
basically what I use a koch studiotone for ^^
Tone King Imperial MKII with Celestion Ruby speaker! ❤🎸🤘
I'm about to get one. Really hope it's gonna sound good with the attenuator. I got it for 1900€ instead of 2700€, so if the amp is really cool, it will be a great deal!
@@basildog007 Please, let me know how you like it! Cheers!
orange 25 rt..it loves my ocd od pedal
Interesting to see the Deluxe Reverb as having headroom... Not if you play live! Maybe it’s just me, but I’ve always had a hard time having any headroom at all with a DR when there is a drummer and a bassist involved.
If you're having headroom problems with a DRRI, your drummer is too loud/it's not the right amp for the kind of music you're doing, plain and simple.
MrBrawl It all depends on the situation. I know this.
I actually had a custom DR made with a bigger transformer and a V30, and that worked very well. The Reissues are on the cusp of usability. Any old ones I have had (my fave was a ‘65) broke up so fast it was silly - but they sounded great in the studio!
@@Wileylikethehawk I know people who gig with Princetons just fine and they're doing rock and pop. I also gigged with a band where each guitarist had a 50w tube amp. It all depends on the band and the music. Generally speaking, if you can't gig with a DRRI, it's an oddball situation and I'm standing by that. More and more I see fewer bands mixing monitors well or only relying on stage volume because "that's how we did it back in the day." It is more possible than ever to gig with a lower wattage tube amp because of the efficiency of PA gear these days and it's why I can't sell 4x12s faster than 1x12 combo tube amps in my music stores. People are catching on.
I play with a drummer who is really f'n loud and I don't have issue keeping up with a DRRI. If you are having issues try adjusting your bias and if that doesn't work change the speaker. I liked it with a vintage 30, greenback works nice too a little sweeter.
MrBrawl Like I said, I get it for sure. I play about 150 shows a year, so it’s not my first BBQ. I guess what I was getting at is if you’re looking for “clean headroom” in a live situation, a DRRI might not be enough. That’s all!
When I play in a crowded and hugely rocking bar with 300 people in, I’m using smaller amps but the DRRI is too small. In a theatre setting where acoustics are better and monitors are better its much easier to use a small amp that is mic’d properly.
I think an amp that doesn’t get mentioned enough in the pedal platform discussions is the Orange CR120
Sounds like some Steven Wilson at the beginning!
Just get a jazz chorus inexpensive built like tanks and sound great.
Or its peavey equivalent almost as good and even more inexpensive.
3:00 is that planet caravan or did I mistake it for something else?
if only pink floyd was playing that song
andy, have you tried out the new fender tonemaster amps? if im not mistaken its supposed to sound like a real Deluxe Reverb but digitally emulated. its light and doesnt need to change tubes all the time. Digital stuff for amps have come a long way in the past couple decades. i wish i could get.your opinion on if it does what its supposed to.
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@@AndyDemos well fantastic!
If you don't bang them around hot, you don't replace tubes all the time. My 72 HiWatt has the original preamp times, I only replace the power tubes in 1991 when our bass player spilt a beer down the back of it.
I want a Tonemaster for the weight!
THAT GUITAR IS NICE what kinda? The black one with the birds
From 7:47 - what is that?
It sounds so familiar and I can't put my finger on it. Hopefully this comment gets a bump and an answer.
Custom 24, modern classic.
Hello rêverb ive found à Evan 20 bass amp for very cheap price an old amp from thé 60s but dont work is it réparable And Should i buy it ?
That HIWATT will work for me
Would my 55 watt Rivera Fandango (dual channel) 1x12 tube combo work as a pedal platform? It has an effects loop, if that helps
Marshall origin 5 is good for this as well.
Andy the god
The video image seems a little blown out...
taste demo and that PRS in black wins.
What about a
Fender Frontman 212?
Is that a pedal platform amp?
suprise suprise. The fender twin reverb takes pedals great and stays clean so not to color the pedal no matter how massive the venue.
*4 ohm hotplate required for home use if you have neighbors.
No mention of Wampler's "Bravado" nor JHS's "Loud Is More Good" ..... ?? These are specifically designed for pedals. Seems to be an oversight here.
Are tube amps any better for taking pedals than transistor amps? If so, why?
No
Can anybody tell me what Andy uses to protect the finger nail on the index finger of his strumming hand.?
OK perhaps I am not holding my pick in the best way however the nail on my index finger takes a beating when I play and usually gets chewed down to the quick which is unpleasant.
There must be a product for guitarists for the protection and strengthening of the finger nails strum hand.?
You just need to learn better technique. You're probably strumming way to hard. Look up videos on good right hand technique.
@Uhhh The strings wear down the nail. However I have since learned that it is Andy's thumb that does the striking not the nail of his forefinger
what kinda guitartar??
OK Wouldnt it be the other way around say, wouldnt you have the guitars and amps you like, then choose the pedals to go around that amp. I would say guitar and amp is the most important first.
Quilter Micropro Mach 2 HD
TL;DR: buy a Fender?
I think it's a matter of personal taste. For me, the mid-scoop in Fender amps take the life of most overdrive pedals.
A Fender amp is probably the first brand that comes to many people's minds when you say a clean, high headroom amp. There are certainly other options depending on how high you need the head room, among other things.
@@rafsbio Adding on to your point, Vox is a good option for a better mid range sound.
@@N00dleBandit True, although Vox amps have a very characteristic EQ shape that might not be for everyone. I'd say any british-voiced amp with high headroom, like Laneys or high wattage Marshalls, are good pedal platforms... whatever that is...
@@rafsbio True, true. I do enjoy the sound of a good Marshall...
The thing about using effects loop is i dont want another cable to plug in to/ dont i lose high freq. with it too?
when you don't use a booster anywhere in your signal chain, then yes, you'll lose some. But any pedal-board should have two to three booster imho anyways. Any Boss pedal f.e. does the job built-in. a lot of older standard pedals (before the true bypass craze) do too.
You will not lose any even remotable noticeable treble with any reasonable amount and length of cables. This has been debunked like a million times, it's only a problem on stages where you're running more than 60ft of cables.
Also, for what it's worth, the output from your FX loop is already low impedance, and therefore there isn't even a chance that you will run into treble loss because of cables.
Cheers
lauren from berlin ok what about cheaper *ahem* totally not from this channels stores cables? I could have sworn I lost some when recording with some of theirs. Maybe it was another old pair. But the questions stands
TheMarsilver Reverb probably don't make their own cables, but just rebrand and sell them. The world of cables is a world of snake oil (like the guitar world in general), and I'd press you to A/B test to figure out what works best for you. CSGuitars recently put out a video that discusses the issue of cables. You can check that out, it's short and explains in very simple terms why cables (mostly) don't matter
@@ithemba *buffer, not booster, but yes this is true
I thought that a Vox AC30 would also be good pedal platform
Yeah, just look at That Pedal Show. They've got a Vox in half of their episodes.
Blackstar studio 10 6L6 .
What can take multi fx well?
Anything that doesn't mush out at the required volume levels.
Two Rock reverb one of the best on the market today for pedals
$5k? It better sound good
What makes an amp bad for effects?
Not being able to get the sounds you want.
1. Not being able to get a clean sound at the volume levels you want - the amp adds it's own colour. This can also be good if you want a Fender, Marshall, Vox, Peavey etc sound.
2. Gain stage overloading in an ugly way when you push it with an overdrive pedal (like a Tubescreamer).
3. No dynamic range with an overdrive/distortion pedal.
A Deluxe is a “high headroom” amp? When did that happen?
It's 22 loud watts. More than enough for most..
They’ve always had bulk headroom :-/ what do you mean? You sure you know what headroom is dude...?
D Bo I guess it depends on what clean means to you. To me, a Twin has high headroom. A Deluxe, not so much. I like them, I’ve owned three of them, but it’s not the amp I’d choose to play out unless I always want a little hair on my clean tone.
There's also the issue of how that amps' distortion plays with the pedals, venue size, sound reinforcement etc.
Small gigs, a Deluxe will be fine. Get in a 300 person room with enough P.A. for Drums and Vox - it's gonna sound different.
How is a Vox AC30C2?
Superb - I have a HiWatt Dr504 but almost exclusively use my AC15. We recently reformed after 27 years, our singer who never stopped looked around and said: "f$%k that sounds good".
'84 Rickenbacker into GT-1 into AC15 (2019)
@@outtolunch88 Wow that's satisfying to know. I actually incorrectly remembered my amp model. It's not a c2 but a ac30s1. Honestly anytime I plug my strat or especially my les paul into just the amp and give it a little volume push on my guitar knob it just sounds so full. The sound is incredible. Not too rock but not too clean either it's literally perfect and I had tried a few amps out. It takes all my pedals great too. Only one I've ever had a problem with is the Slö which was really upsetting (but I think that would as a pedal thing not the amp). 2019 MIM Jimi Hendrix Ultraviolet Strat & 2018 Honeyburst Les Paul Tribute into Vox AC30S1
Tiny Terror Combo
Wavelength + PRS = dad jeans, shirt tucked in, but oakleys on so you know they're a badass
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