Solid State Amps Suck
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- Опубликовано: 28 июн 2024
- In this week's episode, Nick and I play some of the suckiest gear ever invented. I'm referring, of course, to solid state amps. You're probably thinking, "Josh, these amps are made by some of the greatest gear companies ever: Electro-Harmonix, DOD and Marshall. They can't be that bad." Yes, they can.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:25 Solid State Amps Suck
1:15 Vox Pathfinder 15R
2:38 "Lonely Hearts Yacht Club"
4:10 Mike Matthews Freedom Amp
5:47 "Big Apple Brawl"
6:57 DOD Grunge Reverb
8:39 "Ice Giant's Revenge"
9:44 Marshall Lead 12 Micro Stack
10:18 "Stack of Cash"
11:47 Templo Nomad
12:45 "Atlantis B&B"
14:50 Quilter Steelaire
15:36 "Submarine Detective"
16:53 Johnson Millennium 250
18:20 "New Country Buffet"
20:15 Josh Makes a Mistake
21:36 Roland Jazz Chorus-120
22:40 "Coral Reef Dreams"
23:41 Stay Away From Solid State
24:24 Record Time
26:26 Thanks For Watching!
Gear In This Episode:
Vox Pathfinder 15R
Gibson Les Paul Gold Top
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Mike Matthews Freedom Amplifier
DOD Grunge Reverb
Marshall Lead 12 Micro Stack
Templo Nomad 50-WATT Battery Amp
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Ibanez SS20 Session Man II
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Quilter Steelaire
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Johnson Millennium 250
Roland Jazz Chorus-120
Boss CE-1 Chorus Ensemble
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Boss CE-2 Chorus
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Line 6 Spider
Record Time:
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Marshall Lead 12 Micro Stack "Stack of Cash" Jam
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It's important we keep saying these amps suck so we can keep the prices low!
excellent point
Absolutely! Haha
That's the most valid excuse I have ever heard on any guitar related topic ever, Josh should compensate you for that statement.
Brilliant idea.
turrible
My favorite is when tube amp players complain about the sound of solid state amp distortion, and then subsequently use a solid state distortion pedal as their main source of distortion.
In front of a tube amp though. Distortion pedals through a solid state amp? Come on, unless you like a lifeless sterile sound no one prefers it.
@@Jack655321 I do agree 100% as I used a 1972 Marshall Bluesbreaker for the majority of my gigging career but you really need to have a decent volume to get the best out of most valve amps in my experience which simply leads to complaints from the sound engineer and the singer lol. Of course there are ways around that problem but now I do most of my recording at home I rely on a Marshall BB2 pedal to get as close as possible without having the neighbours calling the police on me haha. All this being said, some of those amps sounded pretty darn sweet for solid state
Who are these tube amp players? I can tell you for a 100% certainty that you do not need any pedal in front of a 5150 or a Laney GH100ti. My 5150 has so much gain that I have to use the low input jack and the rhythm channel. Not sure what EVH was thinking but he certainly wanted an amp that didn't need a single pedal in front of it. It is why that amp was adopted by the Death and Black Metal Community.
@@fullclipaudio High gain amps are different, those can definitely do it all by themselves. But I’ve heard this countless times from people using a Boss DS-1 (which I think sounds awful) into a Fender-style tube amp.
@@fullclipaudio Twin reverb players.
I once had a nightmare that my tube amp was actually solid state, it was absolutely terrifying, I woke up screaming for my mommy but she reassured me it still was a tube amp... Phew.
смешно....
Cmewho
You too!
*woke up _tube_ screaming
Tube Works?
Hahahaha
I have a Vox Pathfinder... But that's because I suck :(
us too
What really sucks about the Pathfinder 10 is how well it works with pedals......I hate that about mine.
How much for?
Literally what the hell is Brandon Carter doing here
I have one too, we all suck!
I used to go to this guitar repair store. The guy had a vintage vox on display.
He made people play trough the vox and they all agreed it sounded absolutely fantastic.
Well, in reality, the vox was dead. it was actually an Ibanez solid state amp with the vox as a cab.
Everyone fell for it.
CHECKMATE
@@daniellebrown1916 ha
I wouldn’t, I own an AC30 and no solid state Ibanez gets near. But….cool story dude.
@@billpugh58 i own a vox too.
if you put them side by side there is no possible comparison. But in this case most people just didn't think twice and they just found the sound to be good.
Nobody noticed you didn't have to wait for it to warm up?
"the gold paint sounds the best" is probably the most guitar player thing I've ever heard
"This is my tone jacket"
The problem is that i always tell my friends that i feel the gold tops have a different sound 😂😂
And mr jhs just subtly indicated that im insane
Adam Jones said that silverbursts change the polarity of the sound. I think he was half serious.
yeah- if you don't chuckle at that comment... (;
Same folks argue to the death that woods don't affect anything and strings are strings
The Roland JC-120 is one of the best sounding amps I've had the pleasure to play with!
Yes, and don't discount its little brother, the JC-40, for when you don't want to wake up all neighboring counties.
last year I traded a multicab with a JC120... I'm so proud having one right now!!
Agree. I used two JC77s for many years.
You mean, "worst" sounding amps right????
I got mine for 75.00 from a pawnshop. I’ll never sell it.
I had a VOX Pathfinder and used it to record quite a few songs during my senior year of high school (2001). I still listen to some of those songs, and the tone is awesome. I also made heavy use of the DOD Grunge pedal - it was a huge part of my sound.
Could you post a couple songs plz
I once had another guitarist actually get pissed off at me for lying when he complimented me on my dirty, dirty tone and I told him it was a solid state amp. He was so convinced it HAD to be tubes that he went behind the amp poking around looking for the glass thingamabobs. Then he was even MORE pissed off.
Funny shit.
People are so close minded 🤣
I don't understand people like this. I bet you they use a solid state dirt pedal to get their dirty sound anyway.
Sounds like it really hurt his pride.. or he hurt his wallet buying a tube amp lol
More wishfulness tho overall
It's like Squier
Or Specials, Performers
Great stuff
Unfortunately it does you no good
Just sounds super wooden compared to American Standard or better through tubes
Oh well, maintenence, want to be wrong
Don't get me wrong. Slamming hoity toity stuff is an internet must
Specially from this gamgee of a dude
It's all the chords in the mix part wiseacre
The amps sounded fine...
Maybe it was just a good mic? Did the mic use tubes?
They add tubes in the mix later on
@@tonridesbikes2147 ...and check the phase in Mono ;-)
The jokes on you, he used DSP valve emulation! BOOO YAAAH! Av some of that! Hah! Didn't like that did ya? :D. 🤣🤣
😂
I dont think it's the mic.I think they put the tubes inside the neck just behind the guitar's fretboard.
As someone who mostly uses tube amps, I must admit that I'm a massive fan of the Sunn Beta/Concert series and the old Peavey amps of the 70's. They're some of the best discrete transistor solid state amps I've ever heard in my life, if not some of the best guitar amps I've heard. You can't go wrong with a Jazz Chorus either.
Yeah I had the occasion to play one once and it soubded great.
Had the beta 4x10. Is a great amp.
I have some peaveys if you want to buy any😂
@@chrisbarriere101 How much? lol
I had a Peavy Renown and I put that thing through hell. It was a gig rig and was dropped by our roadie on more than one occasion. It held up to everything and was sooo loud! Having said that I now have a Bugera Infinium 333xl with twin cab and whilst I doubt it would stand up to the punishment of the Peavy it sounds awesome. Also had transistor Marshall but sold that too, but it sounded decent, just not as good as the 333xl.
Absolutely love the tone he got from the mic placement on the LCD screen of the Johnson amp!!!
Omg that made me laugh - you win the internet today! Thanks for this comment. Today I learned WHERE the tone comes from : - ]
Because tube is so fun. Replacing tubes, carrying all that weight, being extra careful transporting them. Oh, and playing super loud all the time because you think your neighbours and family should enjoy your playing too. There is nothing worse than getting decent tone at low volumes on a Tuesday night and having zero complaints.
tbh though ive had 2 tube amps and a solid state bass amp. only my solid state bass amp caught on fire
Yeah I’ve been changing tubes, adjusting bias and lugging amps around since ‘78 and still do but. Some of us actually care about our tone regardless of the extra effort
I own 32 rigs. 7 are solid state, 1 in my Axe Fx 3 mkii and that sucks as far as tone compared to my Mesas, Marshall’s, Friedmans, Fenders and Vox I did pick up Engl Powerball and a 5150 but I don’t play them often I am good with my primary Marshall 410 C mainly.
But I actually enjoy my Roland Chorus, Galen Krueger 250rl, Ada mp1 and my old sunn beta lead but nothing holds a candle to the tubes on stage
But most of you clowns are bedroom posers so all the fx and pretty lights on the axe have you cummin in you boxers
@@gitarman666 Righto, mate. Settle down.
@@gitarman666 lol your audience doesnt give a poop about that so in the end it doesnt matter that much.
@@gitarman666 you’ve been gigging on guitar since ‘78 and you’re still such an immature clown that you say things like “it has you clowns cummin in your boxers?” Forgive me if I don’t take your judgement very seriously…
So sad that there wasn’t a “He has the VOX!” jingle.
Wonder if he has the Vox box?
@@rodgereyre6640 "I've got the hots for the Vox in the box!"
@@rodgereyre6640
If not I hear that the selling of “vintage” boxes is starting to get very popular on Reverb.
@David Wang He was, but he never seems to stay in it.
@@imagesofstyle Cat's out of the bag. Wait, I did it wrong. Shoot.
Josh sporting the legendary Hanson/Nirvana t-shirt is a sign that this show will be full of sarcasm and comedy. I salute you sir.
Way to be😎
Contrary to popular beliefs, it's actually Silverchair.
Josh you are so funny and a very good talker at explaining things. I've learned so much from this channel its unreal. Thank you a lot for helping me understand these pedals and what I need.
Pedal fans are a funny breed. We LOVE transistors, just not when they’re IN the amp. 🙄
When I saw the thumbnail I thought the same haha
You've just made me want to run a tube-driven pedal into a solid-state amp.
@@davedavem mate I was thinking the same thing! The English muffin pedal looks like the ticket
@@tylerdurden5122 yes! Needs to be done
@@davedavem - That's not like divide by zero is it? I hear that's a bad thing.
This episode needs a sequel because there's more solid state amps that I need to be warned against.
Ampegs, Crates and Peaveys. Definitely stay away from them. I don't need them to start costing more than two-four of cheap beer.
@@skaldlouiscyphre2453 My neighbor has a Crate with 4x10's that actually sounds good. I hadn't heard it next to a tube amp though.
To me, SS amps can sound thin in the mix with tube amps.
Definitely Sunn was horrible, especially their Beta series, and people need to be warned away from the reverb and trem on the early Acoustic brand heads. And Peavey Solid State amps were intolerable. And Kustom. And Tech 21.
@@jkf9167 Tech 21, exactly after I bought the Bass driver, and Para Driver, I bought GT2. And after I use them, I use them again and again....because they suck so bad. When will I ever learn?
Watch out for Norlins(Gibson and Moog colab) Lab Series especially that pesky L5. I can't believe B.B. King and Ty Tabor of King's X used it to sculpt their very different signature tones for decades! Horrible,I tell yah!
This channel is so good 12:43 (Atlantis B&B) is pure magic, I wish there was an entire video on that tone and other ways to mimic that tone on different setups with any clean amp.
just bought one of your pedals by accident, been watching your videos and went to go and get some good behringers but the guy sold me on an octave reverb. AMAZING WORK!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!
As guitarists, most of us arent encouraged to find OUR sound but to sound like everyone else and that means buying expensive tube amps and expensive guitars. How many sounds have become iconic by folks using discarded and overlooked gear?? The sound is in your head and hands.
It's like the Digitech "Grunge" pedal.
In the 90´s it was cool and everyone and their sister had one.
They 15 years ago tone snobs declared it bad so everyone hated it. And now finally the youtube community has labeled it cool vintage pedal so everyone who sold it 15 years agos now buy it again but this time it's more expensive.
Meanwhile the Danelectro version of tje same exact pedal can be bought brand new for $30 and no one cares.
Yeah, sure we can take advice on good quality gear.. but developing your sound is infinite in potential.
I use a first act 222 and a kustom 5h cab and head
I think it's about finding sounds that inspire you to play. That's how you get a unique sound. Can't ever get there if you listen to gear snobs as a beginner.
Van Halen was musically illiterate and Jack White recorded his best songs on a plastic guitar.
People replace gear for talent, dedication, and practice. The gear will never be enough if they simply just don't play enough.
The fact JHS has an entire staff dedicated to making informative and yet comedically niche videos for guitar players is just really nice
Most people wouldnt pick up on 75% of the jokes
There’s jokes here?
They are deadly serious
I think the drummer and bass players are actually skilled pedal guys
What jokes?
I recently learned that on most of the Machina album, The Smashing Pumpkins used a dinky solid state Crate gx-15r, and you can get the right sound with just the amp! Billy sold the original on Reverb for 6K and you can find a nice write up on the listing.
that.....was not a good smashing pumpkins album
That's hilarious. For ages my favourite setup was using the FX out on my Crate GX-10 (15 maybe?) into my AVT as a power amp.
The stock speaker from the AVT was replaced with whatever had been installed in my (very used) Fender 112.
The new speaker made the amp a lot tighter and the GX sounds like 90s death metal in a box running through it.
@@patrickderp1044 Its my favorite sp album :(
I have been playing electric guitar and bass for 36 years now and arguing these same points for 30 years. This is channel is new to me, and I love it hard.
Josh’s master-plan: Drive up the prices of every other brand so JHS becomes the most affordable and therefore biggest selling brand. It’s a long game but a good game, like Final Fantasy 7 or Shenmue 2.
Or Donkey Kong Country
You may be on to something here, Simon.
@@bradlivey7867 It's actually infinitely long, since that's how long it takes to build up the courage to traverse the spoooopy Blackout Basement.
My dual Wangs are over in the corner weeping.
dude is a genius...he has successfully driven prices up on all behringer pedals..
I completely agree: ANYTHING solid state sucks. I even recently upgraded to tube wifi, so actually I haven't been able to watch more than the first 3s of this video... But man, it just looks and SOUNDS so much more 3-dimensional! When the video finishes downloading in a few months, I'll be back to give my full comments.
The orange crush line, my $250 amp almost sounds like a tube amp and sounds great on low volume too
Nice top end roll off too, very smooth and warm.
how is the download going about halfway?
@@TheSimonarne just finished downloading the first few letters of your comment, but it's a very smooth 'how' with a little breakup and 'spank.' Can hardly wait till next month when your next word rolls in!
@@Jh0st hope you replaced the electrolytics with film capacitors aswell
The Grunge Reverb jam was unreal. I'm buying the pedal now after hearing that opening riff for approximately 0.2 seconds.
I have a studio full of stacks, matched fender reverbs, custom built cabinets, etc, but nothing has ever sounded more enormous on record than a friggin hiwatt 10w solid state combo mic'd with a 57 close and an mk4 further back. blew the doors off of a soldano super lead II through an orange cab. I still have my roland CUBE30 from 2004-5 and still find new, useable, repeatable tones out of it. AND I was able to carry it to high school an hour on transit every day.
The impending Reverb bump means I won’t be able to afford tube AND solid state amps!
meh, the RUclips effect isn't so severe anymore. The prices will go up for 2-3 months now, then they settle right back down. Or, just get a Katana and stop chasing tones...😁
Go to a local music store.
They still make new cheap solid state amps my dude.
Been trying to snipe a lead 12 for months and I'm here to tell you they didn't need to show up here to be overpriced used! Great amps though! I've been a booster of those Vox SS amps for years.
Orange is priced well
or Hanson shirts
Can we all just take a moment to acknowledge how CLEAN the drums sound
Transistor drums is why.
The need to always compliment these awesome drums almost exhausting... EVERY TIME.... PHEW. Such awesome... GOD!
Nope. Also crap. Everything was crap. Tube drums only.
I saw in a Q&A that he uses one overhead mic for the drums.
@@MirlitronOne I don't know what you mean by "transistor drums." He said in a Q&A he mostly uses a a single overhead mic.
I actually felt a bit sick when I was listening to the VOX, but I made it through without throwing up.
Great work, as always.
Love how you guys Mic'd the LCD display on the Johnson amp. That display although not a 12", sounds great.
Gear snobs are annoying. I’m just glad that there is someone out there that knows what they are actually taking about that is as sarcastic as Josh. 🙏🏽 ❤️
I find gear snobs more humorous than annoying...they make me laugh!
Most gear snob don't know what the hell they're talking about
You used "they're" correctly! You are now my favorite person on the internet!
@@williammckeown4768 that’s a very low bar
@@Arthur_My_Dear I'm surprised at all the tolerance for people who are always calling others loosers. That seems to be the most misused word/comment I've seen yet the grammar police rarely comment on it.
The other thing about solid state is they don't weigh enough, so you don't get the exercise trying to move them around.
And of course with solid state you don't have to keep buying and changing and balancing tubes and warming it up and all that, so you get bored just switching it on and playing it.
Finally, they are too quiet, so you don't get the permanent ear damage all true guitarists are proud of - they're truly rubbish!
Yeah so you have to buy 2 of them to excercise each arm the same. Solid state amps also are so light the heavy duty pickup truck with reinforced suspension that carries no other cargo or passengers (other than guitar) is no longer needed either. Oh the humanity!
Solid state are nowhere near expensive enough
@@zodiacbluesbaby Yeah how terrible it is having the extra money for pedals ;-P
Plus, solid state amps rarely give up their souls unexpectedly as tube amps do. Contributing further to the boredom of owning and playing solid state amps 😐
Plus, who likes spending less money? We all have it to burn, don't we?
The Peavey Bandit is one of the all time classic SS amps. It is worth trying out.
I'm a slight valve amp snob but I won't argue with that. When I did most of my gigging back in the 80's and 90's, I rarely played in a band without at least one of. The guitarists playing a bandit. They sound great, loud enough for any venue, and they're damn near unbreakable. It's amazing how many of them are still knocking around.
Agreed.
My Bandit 65 is STILL my go to amp, and I own a lot of amps.
bandit 65 here too. I've considered buying my buddy a clone pedal of the 112's distortion because he can never get his blackstar to sound like he wants it to.
Still rocking out on a pair of KB300s and a pair of 215s driven by Mk3 and Mk4
Blue knob peavey bandit 65 is the Amp. Swapping the OG speaker for a swamp thang very soon.
Roland JC120 is a Solid state amplifier. Classic sound. Engineers can simulate tube sound in electronic design.
The JC series are the greatest amps of all-time (in my opinion)
Whatever Roland did with Jazz Chorus is pure magic. To this day one of the best sounding clean amps.
A friend of mine moved to Texas and left his Jazz Chorus behind at my house. He came back for it last year. I miss it.
What makes the JC-120 so great, is that it is made, specifically, to be clean. The onboard distortion circuit is one of the worst I’ve ever heard. I’ve tried every type of overdrive, distortion and modeling pedals, and they all sound like crap. It’s a clean amp and it wants to stay that way.
Also, and this is where it REALLY shines, it’s a stereo amp. (60W + 60W) This allows the onboard chorus to reach its full potential. If you have a chorus pedal with stereo outputs, and you’re only using it with one amp, you’re missing out on the real magic. Try running it into two separate amps and you’ll see what I mean. I’ve bought and sold many amps, but my JC-120 isn’t going anywhere. There just isn’t another amp like it.
I have the 80 watts Roland Blues Tube. Great clean, nice creamy distortion and you can even blend the two, and it sounds amazing.
The Micro Cube also has the Jazz Chorus dna. Great clean sounds even though its solid state.
you are not allowed to like solid state amps - it is a rule! Play a fender, hate on solid state amps.
Me: "waiting for a good deal on DOD grunge pedals"
Josh: "DOD Grunge..."
*DOD Grunge prices instantly double*
He’s the worst for that kind of thing. Also, even if you get on reverb etc within an hour of the episode airing, whatever cool pedal you’re looking to snag is sold out.
I have the Hot Pink DoD Thrash Master
I’ll sell ya my Digitech Grunge pedal ;)
While there's truth to this, another thing to remember is that all the reasonably priced items are going to get snatched up quickly, so only the overpriced or super nice ones will linger. A bit of extra momentum to the whole snowball.
Lol my Roland phase 5 sat for a long time til he made that video
The one you said you like was the worst of the lot. I loved the Jazz Chorus 120, biggest mistake I ever made was selling mine.
The Roland JC amps are my favorite. All the sizes are good if you don't want a JC120. One upon a time they even made head units and separate cabinets.
I love and will forever evangelize my Roland JC-22. Best amp for at-home players/practice of all time as far as I'm concerned. If I needed more power, I'd just get a bigger JC.
I've been using a solid state amp for so many years, that explains why I never had a girlfriend because my tone sucks!! my gosh!! thank you josh for enlightening me. I'll never lay my hands on solid state amps ever again!
He's full of shit. The Vox VBM1 is a very toneful amp and produces a Vox AC30 sound in a small package. btw I've never had a girlfriend because I'm MGTOW
Good that you've realised..😂
@@user-zq9su8jv2k Audio interface is better than tube amps in terms of fidelity.
Josh's gift is helping people realize that gear of all value levels is valid to use for creating art and you shouldnt feel bad if you don't have a $3,000 rig.
I spent $1600 on a Mesa Boogie Mark V last year. It’s okay, I loved it at first. Don’t get me wrong, I’m still very happy with it and it’s amazing. But first “big” amp, a Behringer solid state amp, was plenty good in retrospect. It couldn’t do everything, so I’m glad I’ve tried other things to get them out of my system. I appreciate the Behringer a lot more in retrospect though
heh. i step on more than 3k worth of shit. throwing money doesn’t make you play better or make your song better. trust me.
@@drpelliper5818 lol okay neckbeard.
But the line six spider has different voice sounds such as metal and clean and also you can connect your phone to play along records 👍
@@drpelliper5818 heard that. Pedal collecting will get you there if you cannot just say "Guitars and amps, stop collecting stomps Cai, it's not gonna turn out to become a shiny, unicorn of a collectible like a Klon, it'll be the Grunge at the end of the day..." stopped me from buying a trillion 300 dollar to 700 dollar stomps. At that money, I'd wager a guitar or amp at this price point, is the thing that might actually improve your playing, as a guitar with better tuning stability and fit and finish tends to make you meld with it better. The amp being powerful, clean, and at least one or two usable effects that can actually nail what they're trying to do, with a footswitch, is great for also making your playing step up.
I currently use a Fender Champion 100 and I like the versatility. I use Boss Super, overdrive, Morely Power Fuzz Wha, and Electro Harmonix LPB-1. I add a digital reverb pedal in the effects loop. It's loud and has great tone.
Don't play it at full volume for long. It will blow up. It's the digital Fender way.
Great job bro! Very entertaining and informative. It was a real joy to watch entire vid!!
Funny story: this guy who was renting my studio for recording came one day with the Fender Deluxe 85 and asked me if I wanted it for free. I asked "What's wrong with it?" and he replied, "It sucks, it's a solid-state amp... you can have it, it works."
This is the amp that Jonny Greenwood of Radiohead uses fucking everywhere.
Yeah but, it's solid state so it definitely sucks. Just kidding, that's very generous and cool of that dude, whether he knew it or not.
I play a Boss nextone as my #1 for 2years now lol.
@@mrredritehand He really believed that tubes > solid-state... but it's like comparing an electric guitar with an acoustic guitar. it makes no sense.
I've used that Fender Deluxe 85 on almost every Fake Furs track.
I had one of those and it was my first nice amp. I absolutely loved it and unfortunately it’s broken now but I’ve been very close to buying one again.
@@liammurphymusic9962 Naaahhh.... just fix it! :-)
@@RogerBarraud I would but it’s essentially totaled. Our exbassist knocked it off of a counter top fucked something in it up royally.
“No, I don’t like anything!” - That one guy on literally every gear forum
and then you check his scrap recordings that are like the mellowest blues
That’s why I avoid guitar forums these days. Cesspools. Lookin’ at you, MyLesPaul....
@@corneliuscrewe677 I feel like we can trace back most of our unnecessary hate to guitar forums.
Except all the gear he happens to have, of course.
It’s all terrible in the eyes of a doctor and dentist or whom ever is buying all these goddamn PRS guitars at 5k a pop
Love my 80's 120 Jazz Chorus, also for my synths. Its wonderful. I love Roland, specially their analog synths from the 70s
I still have my Roland Jazz Chorus that I bought in 1983. Still love it.
This was a solid video
@skbzk was it made from someone in the States?
I definitely had a solid movement after watching it.
Solid state of the art.
@@kudokudami16 yeah this video is solid... A solid piece of crap that is.
Also quite stately.
I used to love the sound of a Roland Jazz Chorus until I heard it was a solid-state. Haven't listened to The Police since. Talking Heads are also out the window.
Same here. Pretty much everything good from 80-87 seems like it was tainted with the JC-120. I just removed the whole of the 80s from my world. Life is pretty empty without everything new-wave brought but at least I’m 10 years younger.
Yeah, and forget The Cure.
The JC-120 is solid-state?!?! Nooooooooo! (Glares at James Hetfield)
Bro, you shouldn't be breakin the law man..
I remembered playing it like 20 something years ago and thinking it was one of the best amps I ever played, never thinking of it being a solid state or tube. Sometimes not knowing it a good thing. But the Jazz Chorus is a great amp.
Did the Andy Summers of the Police use that amp for his clean tones? That would be a game changer for me since he had some of the best clean/flanger/chorus tones ever.
I still enjoy the heck out of my early 90's Randall RG150ES. It really opens up the louder it gets.
Expert mic placement on the Johnson. no weird phase issues coming from the display! Green front equipped. Super cool!
that DOD Grunge Reverb was just Soundgarden in a box, that ruled
I remember seeing this amp back then and thinking “it can’t sound good.” I wish I would have gotten it. It does sound pretty awesome.
Amen
It does sound surprisingly good for what it is and is supposed to do. Especially relative to the cheaper/smaller SS amps he played.
I thought the same thing!
My exact thoughts too
I'm more impressed he found a drummer who understands dynamics and can play along with a 15W amp. :D
It's miked and running through a board. The problem with SS amps is not that they sound bad, it's that you can't hear them as well without larger wattage. People used the same scale for tube and SS and it just didn't cut through. As you go up in wattage, SS starts to shine.
That drummer is a keeper for sure.
We call that a drummer that isn’t shitty.
Some genre's or songs call for heavy hitting and in those cases the guitarist is at fault if they show up with a 15w amp.
@@joshshultz1250 unless you're gigging in a coffee shop
Love all of the amps … they sound awesome. Great job!
Had a Roland JC-50 in the later eightys. Had a Boss DS-1 distortion with it and wasn’t that cool with the other guys with their Marshall stacks and tube screamers. Still have it and love it!
I must say Josh, that that Quilter sounded so horrendous you better send it my way ASAP so that I can properly dispose of it in a way that it can't, ever again, assault' anyone's ears.
How very public-spirited of you! I will personally volunteer to dispose of the Mike Matthews in a similar manner
And while you're at it, I'll help get that horrible JC 120 outta your life. Just think of how much extra space you'll have for your tube amps after you send it my way!
I was so horrified by the quilter I wound that part back and rewatched it 3 times, just to make sure I wasn't having some sort of nightmare
Josh’s top tier Patreon should be him finding a way to talk up gear you’re trying to sell on Reverb.
haha could be useful! I’d just like to watch him attempt to find nice things to say about bad gear I’m selling
Oh that’s brilliant. $50 a month and he could pimp my gear so Reverb prices go nuts for it. Nothing I own is worth anything on Reverb... yet.
Uhhhh if he does that plz take my money
I really need this right now.
Back in the day like 1985 I had a Marshall lead 20 solid state amp that I ran into a Fender 100 watt Super Six. I had a tube screamer a wah pedal an ADA flanger and the reverb on that Fender was glorious. I played quite a few shows with that setup.
I used to have that Lead12. Was a fun amp. I don't use amps any more but my favorite memories of amps are mostly the first ones. All solid state except a Crate that had a single 12AX7.
Me, looking at my vox pathfinder 10 from across my room: “Don’t listen to the bad man, you sound great.”
gee, I was sayin' the same thing to my Peavey Special
That is a good sounding amp. Unfortunately it can’t get any volume
Vox Pathfinder 10 and Marshall MG15. Both sound decent, if you know dialing in both.
I bought one on reverb that had the led mod and a few other mods...as well as an speaker out jack....it is awesome and i feel I got it for a steal
....and no, the few extra watts don't make you look fat either!
You're doing god's work, Josh. My mother choked to death on a transistor
I feel your pain. My twin sister developed severe chronic tinnitus from the horrible shrieking of her solid state amp, rendering her incapable of performing everyday tasks.
She now has to undergo tube amp therapy 3 times a week ($$$), which of course her insurance doesn't cover.
I ded
When I was young I didn’t mind hauling Marshall amps around. Now the two 100 watt stacks sit in my music room… just being heavy. Look kewl still ;)
@@michaelg.294 Tragic af
How was the tone tho
Back in the early 90s I started playing bigger venues and my small amp wasn't up for the job... well according to my band mates at least. I'm a fan of keeping volumes pretty low on stage and letting the PA do the work. (I'm an ex audio engineer) So, I went out looking at dozen of tube amps, and the one that I liked the best, by quite a lot actually, was an Ampeg SS-140C. You'd think that maybe the SS in the model number would have tipped me off that it was "Solid State" but you'd be wrong. 😆 It wasn't until I got it home that I noticed... there were no tubes! THE HORROR! How could I have done such a thing?! Actually, I didn't think that at all. It was more like, "oh, solid state. Huh. I guess I won't have to worry about replacing tubes." I went on with my life and frankly I loved that amp maybe more than any tube amp I've ever owned, and I've owned a fair amount of them over the years. I know this makes me a bad person, but I have accepted that it is my job to play this role.
Those old Ampegs are absolute legends now.
This video format is gold.
an old weekend warrior musician here in my town once summed it up so nicely: I've never been booed off stage because I don't have tubes in my amp
That's just because he stubbornly refuses to leave the stage when I start shouting "HEY, THIS GUYS GOT NO TUBES!"
@@charlesrense5199 hahahaha
@@charlesrense5199 damn stubborn guitarists
Josh’s sarcastic tone is to the ears, both confusing yet totally logical at the same time.
The "That Pedal Show" snobs would have a heart attack watching this
@@shankrl1 but we aren't snobs, we just like cool switching systems
@@ileutur6863 I mean Dan haha snubs his nose at anything that isn't "sPeCiAL"
I have the reissue of the EHX amp. I like it. My brother has the current version of the VOX 15R bass version I gave him. I think the original 15R is a better amp but the current one is smaller and I added a speaker out jack so it can be used as a head. I also removed the LED clipping diodes to give it some more volume. I recommend both amps.
You left out the "worst" solid state amps, Oranges!
When I started getting back into guitar, I quickly decided to get a digital Marshall Code 50. It was okay at first and I enjoyed playing around with the different sounds, but once I found that the Silver Jubilee mode was my favorite, I didn't use most of the other features and it started sounding worse to me after comparing it more closely to other amps. I decided to switch earlier this year to a solid state Orange CR60 after demoing a lot of different amps in stores. I grew to hate scrolling through the Code's menu and analog generally sounded better to me (I'm not sure how much that has to do with a lot of digital amps cutting costs with the speaker and cabinet design, though), but I didn't want to have to worry yet about possible maintenance issues with a tube amp. The Orange got close to the Jubilee sound, didn't involve scrolling through menus, and had a variety of inputs and outputs on it. I still intend to get a Jubilee one day, but I am blown away every time I play the CR60. It is so responsive and sounds super smooth and velvety, and it looks gorgeous. Next time I see a Jubilee in a store I definitely want to compare it closely to a CR60 - I might end up not even wanting a Jubilee the CR60 is so good!
The video that nobody was asking for but everyone needed
Vox Pathfinder amps are now going for $5000 on reverb. Way to go Josh.
I will sell you a vintage one for $2k right now, fair condition with typical gigging wear n tear...
@@mrredritehand $8000, take it or leave it
I just made $US15M shorting SS amp stocks!!1!!!!
;-)
I have the Vox Pathfinder 15R post 2008 with the brown grill cloth, excellent condition, NEVER giving it away!
@@chancehowes “post 2008 with brown cover “? Is that when they changed it from black ? I wonder were there other changes too When did they stop making them ?
I have used an Award Session Sessionette 75 for 38 years now. Solid state. Only one repair in that time. Serviced by the builder and an amazing, full warm sound. Much admired and known as the British Boogie. Current Blues Baby model is outstanding. No, I have no connections to the company but they are worth checking out.
I had a Fender Hot Rod Deluxe tube amp but it constantly gave me problems when the tubes would get adjusted moving from gig to gig.
I got rid of it! Been using solid state ever since. Never had any problems.
"the gold paint sounds best"
Alright William Corgan.
William *Patrick Corgan excuse you
Pretty sure that's the TonePlexi... :-)
Reading this after just watching his interview talking about his different guitars and the sound of paint
Was he always such a crackpot, or did he really go off the deep end in the last 10 years?
@@AintNobodyAtAll yes
Ok, The Jazz Chorus is actually one of the best amps ever
yes i came looking for this comment, legendary amp! i’d choose it over most tube amps any day of the week!
Metalica plays them..you can hear them on "one"
@@aprilschauer4864 Well technically, at this point Metallica is 100% solid state. At least live. They use nothing but Fractal products. :)
Often copied, never equaled!
I hated plugging into this in jazz stage band. Now i want one.
Super cool video. Stank face when you kicked in the tube screamer on the quilter. Lol
😁
My setup is a 1w Ruby Amp and 1x8 cab DIY job. Maybe I dont have "the ear", but it sounds great to me!
I hate how you made us all think those amps sound good. Shame on you, Josh.
Don't forget to visit Johan Segeborn's channel and scold him for his Peavey Bandit video.
That Deliberately Unnamed(!) microphone is obviously being “warmed up” using an expensive “boutique tube preamp,” which is the reason for the pleasing “tube-like” “complex harmonics.” Solved.
In addition, I believe you'll find the gold plated connectors on the mic cable are warming the signal and adding additional tonez.
Also the Hanson t-shirt
@@MehYam2112 i had to scroll for 20 minutes to find mention of this epic shirt.
Even with that the Mike Mathews EHX & the Marshall both sounded pretty cheesy to my ears. They should have a "cheese off" between them.
@@zopepope I admire your work ethic
Your absolutely right Josh. I've only kept my '95 Peavey audition with spring reverb all these years to remind me of how terrible these things can be.
I’ve done the same with my Fender (non-DSP) ultimate chorus. Terrible thing.
I have 2 Vox Pathfinder amps - one in a head version. The combo has a speaker out jack though. I played that 15 watt solid state amp through one side of a Vox 4x12 cab (so think 2x12 vertical cab) - played that in an 8 piece band and never had issues with clean volume. Crazy. The other guitarists figured it was a tube amp and commented how good it sounded with my Strat.
The Hanson t-shirt just caps the whole thing off.
With Nirvana logo
ya!
Sitting through this was absolutely agonizing. At least he warned us first.
For real. You usually have to go to a “special” club and pay a lot of money to get that kind of torture
hilarious vid - loved it! I still love my tube amps 🙂 but I've got a few nice solid state amps that get some love too
My first amp was my Gorilla GG-25. I still have it, but it ain't working right. Maybe dirty pots or something. It has a burn on the grill from a lightbulb that just sort of fell onto it and melted it. It was a red light bulb, but why? I was 12 and it looked cool. Or maybe its Tube Stack feature melted it. I can't remember exactly. Maybe this is the year I get it working again. Keep up the great work Josh & friends!
I freaking love you and your sense of humor.
You always drop knowledge bombs that noone else even touches on.
It's informative, and you keep it hilarious.
Killing it.
I just love that he's wearing a Hanson shirt.
I hope it says "Nirvana" on it. Those shirts rule
even better, i think it says "nirvana" on the bottom.
@@DaDamuse it does!
I have the same one with Nirvana on it. When I wear it in public, the looks of confusion are beyond priceless.
When I was in high school in the mid 90's I had a shirt that said "Hanson Sucks" and my dad threw it away. LOL!
I watched this video and first thing i thought ..OMG this guy can play and i love his style ! awesome content ! kudos !
Ibanez tone blaster, you graduated highschool about same time as I did. The tone blaster came out around then early 2000s. I had one sold it and could not find it again, then just recently found one again. Love them they have great clean and dirty channels and eq for both channels. Also a friend's grandfather gave him a jazz chorus they are amazing amps.
I want a Zoom background that consists of the JHS 'pedal museum', and Nick perpetually playing drums in the background, animated in a loop.
I wanna burn a doobie with him lol
This was supposed to make me want a solid state amp, but all it did was make me want to get a DOD Grunge pedal.
a little bit of room reverb and you got yourself an in utero esque dirty tone
I'm in this same boat on the Grunge Pedal
I want that pedal now
Damn I had that pedal back in the day.
I have one of those. They're fucking wild
The Peavey Backstage was the warmup for countless gigs. I love them for Jazz amd lap steel
Yes, this was extremely terrible, i have to suffer one of those vox 15r myself, so i know how you feel man. Let's just hope for better times and take care.
Does Nick get enough praise for his drumming skills? I think not. Just nails it every time. #TeamNick
Epic Drumming!
I love watching him play because he makes it look so casual and effortless. Sometimes it's like the guy is paying attention to everything in the room but his drums but doesn't miss a beat.
Ok but the bass guy is playing without even being there. #teambass
@@rickyanthony Good point! Anyone care to explain!
Josh has just made solid state amp prices go to the roof. Josh, please stop the guitar gear inflation.
LMAO, no.
On the other hand, what if that in turn drives down the prices of tube amps?
@@charlesrense5199 They suck even worse then ss
man good. its so hard to sell a SS amp.
@@mrredritehand all amps suck. And all guitars and pedals too. But the ones that suck worst of all are the ones on my wantlist.
“The gold paint sounds the best!” LMAOOO!!
The snob in me says nah, the rocker in me says hell yeah
For real tho those Roland Jazz Chorus amps are delicious.
I use mine more than any of my tube amps if running many pedals.
One of the best amps ever created.
@@riffmondo9733 SAME
@@riffmondo9733 me too plus it’s probably the best amp I’ve ever used for my synths it’s so responsive
I love love love my JC-40.
Been Jonesing one for so long
"The gold paint sounds the best" 😂 new shirt idea
Tone paint is actually a thing, Its been proven fact actually !! Lol
YES!!!
Damn I've been wanting a gold top LP. Bucket list guitar.
The gold paint should be the name on the next JHS pedal.
The JC120 is legendary. I picked up a slightly less legendary amp recently: 1990 Fender M-80 chorus. Solid state, 2x12, chorus, reverb, 130 watts. It’s no Twin Reverb, but it’s really uniquely voiced. Very 1990 hair metal tone.
i've had an M-80 since about 1991 and I love it. My kid took it to school and i had to solder in a new input jack after too many 7th graders yoinked the cables out by tripping on them or just running into them but it was an easy cheap fix and it's back to great
I am good at fixing things, from trucks to computers. So, when I buy something new, I always ask myself, "If this breaks, would I be able to fix it?"
Sadly, the answer for solid state transistor amps is, "Of Course NOT!" 😂
I had a "Dean Markley" solid state amp that stopped working. When I opened it up, the components on the board were so tiny, I could barely differentiate them,much less work on them with the electronics tools: soldering pencil/sucker, brush, tweezers, etc.
I worked for TDK Corp. of America which sells electronic components to the cellular telephone and automotive industries.
These components are so small that the technician must use a microscope to see them! They are placed onto "tape" which is rolled onto reels at the mfg. plant. The components are installed by robots using "Pick & Place" technology. They are NEVER meant to be removed. If a single component fails, the entire board is removed from the machine and thrown away.
On the other hand, my Fender tube amp has tubes that are easily accessible to change when they go bad. I don't even need a tool. I just use my hand, easy as changing a lightbulb, pull the old tube out and put the fresh one in. I'm back in business, just like that! 🙂
I'm looking at a dean markley that I fixed with a normal-sized soldering iron and my fingers. Through whole components inside are the same size as the through hole components in my Fender tube amp...
(My Sunn Sorado has GIANT components, like most amps of that era...same as my Kustom 200B...which is solid state).