3:40 I could feel the pain, the sadness in Aberforth's voice. He wanted Potter to understand something...He is a Dumbledore and whether its Albus or Aberforth.... ALL Dumbledores are great wizards.
@Robert Phillips he is known as Aurelius Dumbledore.... Of course coming from Grindelwald we still have to wait for the new film to see if it's true....
I really liked the detail of Harry not eating. It showed that he was entirely focused on his mission and that he was used to being hungry because the Dursleys underfed him.
Even when Ron told him to wait til Bill's wedding was over Harry did not give a crap about that or the fact George lost an ear and Hedwig just died just for Harry to be willing to not spend a night At the burrow even though Ron convinced him to stay like Moody also died because of how risky it was to pick up Harry due to the fact Voldemort and the Death Eaters could come after Harry before the trace expired and Harry turns 17.
Love how Hermione still remembers to thank and stand up for Aberforth even to the end (standing up to her friends, no less). A true Gryffindorian with an excellent upbringing -- to me, it's actually very British, polite and well-mannered to the end :D.
I hate how they didn't include the part in which Harry was telling Aberforth Albus's last moments when he was drinking the potion in the cave. The book did well, and it probably made Aberforth realize that Albus did indeed care for Ariana and Aberforth. Meanwhile Ron and Hermione were standing and listening in shock, because Harry never told them this information before. That was one of underrated scenes in the book and it also didn't make it to the movies.
Well in the book, Harry said the dursleys never exactly starved him, but they didn’t let him eat the best kind of food. Dudley would always eat the best food on the table, even if it made him sick so long as Harry didn’t get any.
And towards the end, harry tells Neville to kill nagini before he goes to die in the forest and says since he's leaving three people with that job just like how dumbledore before he died made sure three people knew about the horcruxes
Oh yeah, like you're the only person in the world who has read the books. Do yourself a favour, idiot, and stop trying to act smart. You're shitting yourself.
@@groot8950 and @Ann W, you two are fcking disgusting... why are you getting triggered like that over a simple comment that didn't insult you or anyone?!
@@rafatara2030 He was also looking the best in Prison of Azkaban. In Deadly Hollows Harry is looking so old, its hard to believe that he was still supposed to be a teenager.
It actually saddens me to see Ron and Hermione looking so tired and hungry and looking very much like children while they were eating, probably thinking they don't know the next time they're going to have the simple comfort of drinking hot tea on a cold night and having bread to fill your stomach.
Sad the whole Grindelwald storyline wasn't entirely focussed upon. And the mirror was also strange considering it never appeared in any of the movies prior to Deathly Hallows.
I think they are really going to mess it up . I mean they have brought Jacob back for the sole purpose to die at the hands of Grindewalds followers . The dual between them will also be comical
Aberforth sacrificed his schooling and ambitions for his beloved sister and that part in the book when he was saying his story was heart-breaking...needless to say all Dumbledores are great ....
4:01 - 4:03 While it was not invested in as much in the movies as in the books (AKA, S.P.E.W), this was an example of when Hermione's intelligence/thoughtfulness which then translated into her politeness/care for others, surpassed that of Harry and Ron, for they simply did not understand a person (or living being) when she did.
Also, I truly love how Neville called Aberforth Dumbledore, "Ab" at 4:44. It's also wonderfully satisfying to me that he simply says, "Hey, Ab!" to call him-- like they've been friends for ages!
Dumbledore did talk about his brother. When making Hagrid understand that there are people out there who not care about him being a half giant, he told him that his brother was accused of practising inappropriate magic on his goat and yet he kept his head high. He also added that he cannot read so that might have been more like oblivion than bravery.
I respect Harry standing up against Aberforth saying he didn’t care about the dispute with Albus. That was a subtle highlight to his character and knowing where he stood with Albus as he knew him, that he’s grown up and isn’t, in fact, a foolish ‘boy’ like Aberforth implied he was (at first).
It's also a very straightforward way of coming to terms with years and years of manipulation by Dumbledore, of not being able to think or reason like him, not knowing the least bit about his story and motives, but still respecting the man for his deeds. I feel like this speaks directly to those (like myself) who would think Dumbledore was an ass to Harry.
@@ignazioacerenza9881 Dumbledore knew after goblet of fire, that harry would survive the killing curse. But he couldn’t let harry know that, otherwise harry couldn’t give everybody the love protection. In order for him to survive he had to accept that he was gonna die, it had to be genuine. Dumbledore cared for him, but he valued the safety of the wizarding world over harry
@@ignazioacerenza9881 “years and years of manipulation” lmaoooo. Yeah no. Dumbledore didn’t manipulate Harry. Manipulate a Gryffindor? No. Work within and around a Gryffindor’s choices. Sure.
@@Arichxc He deliberately witheld life-saving information at several points of the story, especially from Harry. In particular the worst moment is when he leaves Harry's training in the hands of Snape without offering Harry full context of Snape's motives. He not only manipulates but forces Harry to be a manipulator himself, using Slughorn to get access to the memories for something he has already confirmation of (the horcruxes). But the worst part is that, Instead of taking care of Harry and raising him he sends him off to be abused by the Dursley as a character building excercise. Dumbledore never moved past his old motto: "for the greater good". He played everyone around him to achieve his goals because he saw it as the only possible way to beat voldemort. That's it.
Love how Hermoine caught the tension and automatically put down the food Abeforth offered them... Meanwhile, Ron kept eating until he caught on last minute lol
After Voldemort died, Aberforth gathered his belongings, took up the name of Mance Rayder, joined the Night's Watch and journeyed across the wall to become the king beyond the wall!
It's funny, cause if you look up the scene where he questions Jon Snow for the first time they have a similar conversation. He literally has the same 'I ask you one last time'- line.
I knew there was something familiar about his face. Even though i´ve only seen Ciarán in Game of Thrones and The Terror as far as i remember, such a amazing actor is hard to forget.
Totally agree. This tiny slice of cinema was great on the acting front. Even Watson and Radlcifee, both whom are painfully mediocre actors, were quite decent. I think this scene had a good bit of tension, sadness and relief to it, which I think is a reflection of the screenplay.
@@TickleMeElmo55 Finally someone says it. Radcliffe and Watson were bang average actors, and that's being kind. So many people seem oblvious to how bad they were, they probably grew up with them and are bind to it. The actors who played Ginny and Percy were even worse. I'm fairly sure that's why they cut Ginny so much from POA onwards, they knew how bad she was. I feel like they could've easily replaced that actress, but they didn't have the balls to do it. Book Ginny was charasmatic, all action, and beautiful; movie Ginny was none of those things, and it just didn't feel right that Harry ended up with her, yet in the books it made more sense. Honestly, it's worth learning Spanish to watch the dubbed versions because the voice actors are waaaaaaaaay better than the actors used in the movie, particularly the kids. It made the whole experience 10x better for me, and I'm English! I suspect it's similar in other languages, but there's something so authentic about Spanish people's voices.
@@futurez12 glad to know Spanish dub is appreciated between English speakers! As an Spaniard, I can agree that with high budget films it is common to hire talented people for the dubs, and that shows. I also enjoy the original version at some points, but the Spanish one has more character to it imho.
" You don't strike me as a foul , Jon Snow! So I' ll ask you again....." ," You don't strike me as a foul Harry Potter, so I'll ask you again...." and " That's a boy's answer.....". Do I remember correctly? The same lines he used here, he used in GOT. Even the same intonation. Or am I remembering it all wrong....cause it's been a while since I last saw this GOT scene.
This scene was messed up by Harry telling him that they were hunting Horcruxes. In the books, it was made clear that that was supposed to be a secret and that nobody other than Harry, Ron, and Hermione were supposed to know about it. However, this scene did have a redeeming factor which was Aberforth saying "In all the time you've known him, did he ever mention my name? Did he ever mention her's?" That was a powerful line that wasn't in the book.
A lot of people have their ideas muddled on Dumbledore because he's so complicated. But to me in the end he was one of the most kind hearted, flawed, powerful, and intelligent wizards ever. He was young once like anyone. He had his flaws like anyone. But he dealt with them and most of his old age was spent doing something good. Being the best headmaster in the wizarding world. The moments we see him acting in a way that seems cruel or without heart ALWAYS have an explanation. When he hesitates and stumbles on his words when he says "yes he must die" to Snape it's not easy for him because he cares so much for Harry, yet he knows it must be done, and his theory in his head that Harry will survive because he is a horcrux only barely gives him enough to push him forward with that idea. He is so happy, calm, and bright when talking to Harry after Voldemort kills the horcrux inside him because it is finally over. He doesn't have to make any hard and deadly decisions because no more need to be made.
Even though Aberforth despises his late brother he is deep down guilt ridden about how late sister died. Even though it is left to debate who killed her I think Grindlewald being the evil one fired the killing shot towards Aberforth and Albus saved him by using expellemurus but it deflected the curse and hit Ariana instead and Aberforth probably wished Albus never saved his life as Ariana may have lived and will probably still wish he was killed and never forgave Albus for it.
Aberfourth doesn’t despise his brother. In fact he is the only person who truly knows Albus and the only person he really wants to hang around with is Aberfourth. He was frustrated that Dumbledore sent three barely of age wizards on some magical goose chase while the death eaters were doing victory laps.
Probably the dumbest thing in the movies was the fact many other characters knew about horcruxes and Voldemort could "feel" them when destroyed. The whole friggin point was that they had keep it secret between Dumbledore, Harry, Ron and Hermione. Otherwise Voldemort would move them in places impossible to find and literally *everybody* would have been searching for them. Why else it was just these three searching for them?
Idk what it is but the chemistry between Daniel and Ciaran here is just on a whole other level. They bounce off each other remarkably well. I wish they had more scenes together.
I felt for him a bit he just seemed to harbour so much pain . The way he spoke about his brother and sister makes it sound like he and they were happy before the viper turned up . Then it all went to shite and the rest is history . The anguish when he said that " he sacrificed many things in his search for power " makes me wonder if Dumbledore did more than Rowling claimed he did . It sounded like she was trying to hint that he did .
Yes. In the flashback of Snape's memories from the Pensine(last movie), when Snape begs Dumbledore to hide the Potter's, Dumbledore's answer was : "what would I have in exchange for this ?" Proving that he probably wasn't the kind hearted wizard Harry though he was. Abelforth's answer is probably a reflection of this too.
@@androsram641 yes of course he was manipulative, he wasn't talking to a "friend", he was talking to a death eater begging him to hide someone he endangered by telling Voldemort part of the prophecy (mind you he doesn't give two craps about the baby and the husband dying, and he wouldn't have given a shit to begin with if it wasn't lily who he put in danger -explicitly confronted over this in the books-) Of course he was gonna hide her either way, Christ that number was just to get Snape's loyalty. He's in a WAR and has the opportunity to have a death eater as a double agent. He was using very effectively the cards he was dealt with.
I wish they had played out this conflict between Aberforth and Dumbledore a bit more. One of the reasons Dumbledore is one of my favorite characters is that he is Machiavellian; he did what he had to do to ensure the triumph of the good, gladly taking upon himself the burden of any pain he caused.
I don’t know much about Aberforth but he seems like in his younger days after he separated himself from his brother after their sisters death I feel like in that time he would’ve been a powerful and badass HP character, I kinda wanna see more of him
“I’m not interested in what happened between you and your brother. I don’t care that you’ve given up. I trusted the man I knew”. As soon as Harry said that, in my opinion, he gained Aberforth’s respect. Aberforth said that Harry didn’t strike him as a fool, and Harry’s response confirmed to him that he wasn’t. That’s why he sent Arianna to fetch Neville, and why he went to Hogwarts to fight, all because of that answer
@@frasergibson5763 Actually it was still a boy's answer. The truth is, Albus Dumbledore being constantly Harry's paternal figure, harry could not develop himself to be a full grown up. For entire series, he was only performing Dumbledore's tasks.
Albus did mention his brother, but only once. He called Aberforth brave but also possibly illiterate. I like to mention Harry's growth throughout the series as seen in this movie. He has finally mastered occulomency and can shut Voldemort out which is why Voldemort could not enter his mind after the Malfoy Manor incident or the Gringotts theft. The grief and the sense of purpose repelled any outside penetration. He also learnt to trust Albus, as he says to Aberforth in this scene. He does not care what people have to say or what Albus did when he was a teenager. He was given a mission and that mission is more important. In the first scene, he chose to prioritise horcruxes over hallows and interviewed Griphook first when he knew Voldemort was about to acquire the Elder Wand. He knew Albus wanted him to know about the Deathly hallows but not to do anything with the information. Maybe it was Dobby's death that made him realise his faults. He gets too emotional and distracted. Something Snape told him in one of their Occulomency lessons.
I came to rewatch this scene after Fantastic Beasts and the Secrets of Dumbledore. Albus has done many good things but being a good brother was not one of them. Aberforth lost his sister as well. And a woman he loved, his only son, Aurelius. Albus literally was raising Harry was a pig for slaughter just to defeat Voldemort. Snape said it himself. I understand why Aberforth told Harry to leave and live a little longer. It was a suicide mission for many in the end. Harry was almost one of them if he didn’t decide to come back to fight. Sounds wrong of me however I feel like all of it could have been done differently than it went down. Thanks for uploading.
But dumbledore actually loved Harry and I’m sure had there been another way he would of taken to to save Harry and he loved him and dumbledore himself admitted it in order of phoenix telling him he cared more about him and his happy then anyone else dumbledore was flawed yes but he is a hero he’s been there for world whenever they’ve needed him voldermort would not have died without him he knew he wanted power so he stopped himself every time they offered the post of minister of magic he might be flawed but he’s a hero and a great man
Re Harry saying "I don't care about what happened between you and your brother" and "I need to get into the school tonight", I don't is arrogant... I think Harry's been through a lot by this point, it's a time factor (Harry doesn't have time to chat) and he's just focusing on what he has to do that night and had limited time. I mean, maybe being slightly dismissive about something that someone else (Aberforth) thinks IS worth taking the time to go into - maybe just two people briefly at cross purposes and also probably he would have been a bit curious about what Harry was like in person maybe so Aberforth threw a few things at him. Why arrogant?
This scene is awesome, for starters aberforth is right. Harry’s first answer of I trusted him is a boys answer. However both aberforth and harry realize that Harry’s answer is what a man says. I need your help regardless of what you really think.
For all of Aberforth's charges that Harry acts like a boy instead of a man, it is Aberforth who is forever stunted as an angry little boy. People makes mistakes, terrible, unforgivable sins where your whole world comes crashing down, it is easy to want to give up. But Albus, and even Snape they didn't let their self loathing stop them for doing what needs to get done. Albus lived in pain, in guilt, in shame, but he kept going on put away Grindelwald, made discoveries in magic, wrote laws, became a teacher a headmaster a mentor a friend, he continued to live even if he never felt alive. Aberforth chose to waste away his life in a bar dwelling on hating his brother, and doing nothing wasting away his immense talent. If Harry learned anything from Dumbledore it is to never give up, Aberforth has no right to lecture Harry or question Albus relationship loyalty towards Harry that is between two men.
Aberforth just wanted someone to vent to. There's not many in their world that could possibly comprehend what he felt. Harry was the only other closest to Albus, and thus Aberforth knew that Harry was the only other that can understand the significance of his venting. In fact, he may have seen a bit of Albus in harry. Because when he vented, to Harry, it seemed like something he'd say to albus himself. But when Harry said "I don't care what happened between you and your brother", that when he knew, that Harry was not a rip off copy of Albus. And Aberforth may also have thought that this might be the last time he'd ever have any chance to vent at all because at this point it wasn't certain Harry was going to survive, and he's a life of regret. So he decided I think to brain dump as much venting as he could all at once. Seeing that Harry didn't care, he seemed to have a relieved face. He even did the classic Dumbledore eye twitch.
At this point in his life he was an exhusted old man with nothing to live for , and in all honesty was frustrated when someone showed a glimmer of hope because he couldn't find any for himself . So yes he was a jerk there , but in this instance I think it's understandable
@@sakura072593 In this scence his tone and facial expressions just ooze frustration ...he's fustrated because Aberforth has given up and because he knows how his brother felt about what happend. He knows that grudge is being held because Aberforth won't accept that Albus felt guilty or any remorse . Because Aberforth is stubborn and set in his ways ...
I loved that Nevil held down the fort while Albus, Harry and many of his friends were gone. He kept the students safe. That’s what also makes him the chosen one. He kills the snake
Interesting fact: though in movies his brother is only introduced in last film, in books dumbledore actually introduced him in goblet of fire in front of trio and hagrid.
It's the nature of the relationship between Albus and Harry. As his direct superior, it wouldn't be appropriate for Albus and Harry to be on a first name basis.
I feel alberforts pain and why he is the way he is after ariana died he was never the same again and never forgave Dumbledore for not keeping her alive. I do believe it was grindlwald who killed her by accident of course there was a three way duel between dumbldore grindlwald and Albertfort and one of them shot out the killing curse and accidentally hit ariana by accident. Grindlwald fled and stole the elder wand albertfort and Dumbledore never spoke to each other again. grindlewald went to crime and started to cause chos trying to expose the wizarding world. I hope they show all this in one of the fantastic beast films.
It seemed to me the movies worse when the books got thicker because they had to leave more out. They did a pretty good job overall but the books feel more compete and more serious to me.
Doesn’t really make sense for me, to say that the books are better because of the inherent differences between books and cinema and not because they’re better as books then the movie is as a movie.
I just saw the clip where Jon Snow asks Mance to let him join the Free Folk. It's the same actor and a very similar situation. The way Aberforth says 'I'll ask you again' is the same as Mance said it to Jon Snow. Very interesting parallel
Looking forward to seeing Aberforth and Ariana appear in the Fantastic Beasts films since Albus and Grindelwald's final duel is a major event that affects the Dumbledore siblings.
Ariana died in 1899, the 2nd movie takes place in 1927 and the final duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald takes place in 1945. But I really hope we'll get to see Aberforth! But we can also have flashbacks.
Ciarán Hinds really made you feel like he was raised in the same home as Dumbloredore in this role. Small subtle cues that tie the two together, in voice and in movement. Same person essentially, just a different outlook
You know it's really sad to be honest cause Aberforth has had a tough life. He had a son he had no idea about "Credence" or as he was born Aurelius Dumbledore who died not shortly after they finally met. Had a woman he loved (Aurelius Mother) who was banished by the British Ministry if I remember correctly. His sister died in an accident caused by Albus and himself and to top it all off a bit of a feud with his brother for years up until Albus died. The man has clearly had a dark time. I hope in the end he found some peace. (Yes I know this is fictional but still the man needs some damn peace)
Aberforth had the strongest Patronus in the film series, he's part of a family tree with known heavy hitters like Albus and Credence, he lead the vanguard in the battle of hogwarts and survived it. The guy was probably stronger than any single death eater, but isn't recognized as such.
This right here is the precise point Harry officially becomes a man. It's tempting to say it's when Sirius died, but trauma doesn't necessarily make one grow up. This is Harry standing his ground to a man with way more experience and knowledge than him. Being a man doesn't necessarily mean being right, (Aberforth is right in the end because Albus was willing to sacrifice Harry to kill Voldemort proving he can't be trusted). It means standing up for what you believe and finishing the job no matter what you have to do. Thumbs down all you want, but this is mainly the reason men mostly run the world. For the record, I wholeheartedly believe women can do just as good a job, but generally speaking, women don't work well with other women they can't stand. Their emotions keep getting in the way. I've worked with guys who absolutely LOATHED each other. But they do it and do it well because, at the end of the day, nobody cares about a man's feelings. All people care about is results. Every man I knew who was in a relationship before the Great Recession and before they lost their job, wasn't afterwards. It could've been so easy for Harry to get sidetracked here. He's finding out Albus is hiding all kinds of secrets from him. But he sees past Aberforth's perspective because he knows what he knows. And right or wrong, he's going to follow it through.
In the book, Harry doesn't tell Aberforth anything about the Horcruxes, but he tells him something about that there are more important things than personal safety, and that there was a war going on. Besides, the entire story of him, with his brother, Grindewald and Ariana has been skipped, although, I recognize it was hard to fit in, perhaps in the next fantastic beast movie there will be a better approach.
It's funny, but after watching the latest Fantastic Beasts film, one hast to wonder just how much Aberforth hated Albus. But we all know that out of anyone, Aberforth was the one person in the world who knew Albus the most, and he knew full well that the mission of hunting down Horcruxes was the most dangerous thing a person, human or wizard could ever do. And for Albus to trust that burden on a 17 year old boy with about as much intelligence as a child with gun, Aberforth understood that Albus truly lost his mind at his old age, and was still making the same reckless mistakes he always made. Though, there is something that Aberforth did not know about Harry, and that was the fact that Harry had a determination that rivaled even most experienced wizard, and an iron-clad will that made even Voldemort scared shitless.
He didn't know his brother at all, if he had he'd have recognised that Albus felt guilty about Ariana until the day he died. Aberforth thought that Albus didn't care about her which is just not true.
@@MasterOfTheElements It was Aberforth that hadn't realized Ariana was an Obscurial, forced to hide her magical heritage for fear of persecution. He thought she was simply powerless. Until it became too much.
I LOVE Aberforth too. He was a better man than his brother, always, consistently. He kept checking in and looked out for Harry & sent help to Harry and gang and cared about his best interest instead of treating him like a pawn/sacrificing him for an end goal and respected his wishes despite holding a different opinion. He truly cared for those around him, and never sacrificed them for glory nor sought any for himself but quietly did the right thing on his own.
i was told cirian hinds was in harry potter, but dont remember ever seeing his face in any of the movies. after having watched this, i can see now. lol.
Dang alberforth is so hurt by losing his sister he isn't himself anymore i wonder if we will see her dying in the fantastic beast films i believe grindlwald killed her in the three way duel.
Aberforth states in The Deathly Hallows that he's not sure who it was that killed Ariana. He said it could have been any of the three of them. It's in chapter 28, "The Missing Mirror".
Bit late to this conversation, but Ariana was killed when they fought as boys. Grindlewald wanted him to leave him brother and sister and go away with him. Unless there’s a flashback sequence, those events have already taken place by the time the Fantastic Beasts films are taking place.
When Aberforth asks Harry, Ron, and Hermione if they even know how dangerous it is, my first reaction was, "You're talking to HARRY POTTER and his friends. Voldemort has been hunting Harry since he heard about the prophecy. Why would they not know how dangerous it is?!"
3:40 I could feel the pain, the sadness in Aberforth's voice. He wanted Potter to understand something...He is a Dumbledore and whether its Albus or Aberforth.... ALL Dumbledores are great wizards.
Ariana makes a great corpse
Credence Barebone is a Dumbledore too
@Robert Phillips he is known as Aurelius Dumbledore.... Of course coming from Grindelwald we still have to wait for the new film to see if it's true....
That's what you think he wanted Harry to understand?
Lol, Aberforth doesn't give a damn about being recognized as great.
He hates that recognition.
@Jimmy Da santa get fucked
man aberforth deserved so much more time in the books/movies. such a great character and an incredible choice of actor .
Ciarán Hinds was the PERFECT choice for this role.
That slight nod to Hermione…awesome
His role in the third Fantastic Beasts film was quite interesting imo
“He gave her everything.... but time.” So heartbreaking when you realize how valuable time really is. 😢😢😢
Reminds me of Tony Stark's line from Endgame: No amount of money ever bought a second of time.
And yet, we have no idea what time is. Its the biggest puzzle of all.
@@ukspizzaman What we do know is that time doesn't really exist. It's something that only humans can perceive because we created it.
Generic drivel.
So deep bro, tou should write a book
I really liked the detail of Harry not eating. It showed that he was entirely focused on his mission and that he was used to being hungry because the Dursleys underfed him.
Yep!
In the books he was used to not being fed for weeks.
And the opposite is true for Ron. He pissed me off so badly in this book bro, wahhhh I’m so hungryyyy harry your parents are dead wahhh I’m hungryyyy
@@BobBob-qq9xn it wouldn’t be honest if Ron ignored the things he was conditioned to.
@@manuginobilisbaldspot2 there’s a lot to be said about willpower in dire circumstances, and Ronald failed before they even faced real danger lol
Even when Ron told him to wait til Bill's wedding was over Harry did not give a crap about that or the fact George lost an ear and Hedwig just died just for Harry to be willing to not spend a night
At the burrow even though Ron convinced him to stay like Moody also died because of how risky it was to pick up Harry due to the fact Voldemort and the Death Eaters could come after Harry before the trace expired and Harry turns 17.
“Did he ever mention my name;did he ever mention hers”😭😭😭
@William G that's because Dumbledore did mention aberforth, in the Goblet of fire book
😭😭😭😭😭Ikr
Why was a aberforth holding a grudge to dumbledore after 95 frickin years
@@andrewsucksatvideos4482 because he's a bitch
@Eric Miret why??
Scandalously underrated character Aberforth was
"I don't care that you've given up" Who else wants to slap him ?
Arthur Challat Aberforth made it sound like he had given up
@Daniel Jaramillo I like to slap Harry, that boring main character of a wizard.
Okay hagrid
He was only ever mentioned in the books
Love how Hermione still remembers to thank and stand up for Aberforth even to the end (standing up to her friends, no less). A true Gryffindorian with an excellent upbringing -- to me, it's actually very British, polite and well-mannered to the end :D.
Yet Aberforth only responds to Harry when she asks a question.
I hate how they didn't include the part in which Harry was telling Aberforth Albus's last moments when he was drinking the potion in the cave. The book did well, and it probably made Aberforth realize that Albus did indeed care for Ariana and Aberforth. Meanwhile Ron and Hermione were standing and listening in shock, because Harry never told them this information before. That was one of underrated scenes in the book and it also didn't make it to the movies.
Also they mention the Horcruxes in the film but it's not like this in the book!! It is a secret mission,they can't mention them
Did anybody know that abeforth dumbledore is the only dumbledore that is alive?
That's a tough life,and i can feel the pain.
He's the Sasuke of Harry potter
@@someintrovertsomewhere8846 so Dumbledore was itachi
@God Bless The Internet he's probably not a Dumbledore, Grindelwald was probably lying, but if he is then that's just bad writing
Satrio Widiyanto nah becasue he wasn’t told to kill his family nor he did kill his family
@@joshw9426 no i think he is a dumbledore. the phoenix legend and how else would he have the power
Just realised harry didn’t reach for the food like ron and hermione was because he was already used to being hungry for a long time
That and also the fact that Harry is completely focus on the mission at this point.
True the Dursley's used to starve him all the time through in the book Harry and Ron stuffed themselves while Hermione.
who gave you the right to make me sad like that
Well in the book, Harry said the dursleys never exactly starved him, but they didn’t let him eat the best kind of food. Dudley would always eat the best food on the table, even if it made him sick so long as Harry didn’t get any.
But in the book they all ate atonce they see the food
In the book, Harry Hermione and Ron couldn’t tell anyone that they were hunting horcruxes.
And towards the end, harry tells Neville to kill nagini before he goes to die in the forest and says since he's leaving three people with that job just like how dumbledore before he died made sure three people knew about the horcruxes
Oh yeah, like you're the only person in the world who has read the books. Do yourself a favour, idiot, and stop trying to act smart. You're shitting yourself.
@@groot8950 thank you!!!!
@@groot8950 ? do you have to be rude? they were just saying it
@@groot8950 and @Ann W, you two are fcking disgusting... why are you getting triggered like that over a simple comment that didn't insult you or anyone?!
Honestly Daniel Radcliffe’s acting got so much better in the last few films. He’s genuinely really good.
He was always pretty good though
James Johnson um no he wasn’t very good in the first couple films
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He was great in Prisoner of Azkaban !
And that was the only movie where they got his hair right.
@@konanxhidan3202 thats true...his hair was really well decided...I reckon...in that movie
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He was also looking the best in Prison of Azkaban.
In Deadly Hollows Harry is looking so old, its hard to believe that he was still supposed to be a teenager.
It actually saddens me to see Ron and Hermione looking so tired and hungry and looking very much like children while they were eating, probably thinking they don't know the next time they're going to have the simple comfort of drinking hot tea on a cold night and having bread to fill your stomach.
In the book they had wine and food. The question is if Harry was drunk when fighting Voldemort.
Harry: "Dumbledore gave me a task!"
Aberforth, who is also called Dumbledore: "Bruh...."
Lmao
Harry: "Sorry I meant Albus"
Sad the whole Grindelwald storyline wasn't entirely focussed upon. And the mirror was also strange considering it never appeared in any of the movies prior to Deathly Hallows.
Jiskpirate well now we have whole movies dedicated to that storyline!
@@madisonezell8721 Too bad the movies are not making sense
I think they are really going to mess it up . I mean they have brought Jacob back for the sole purpose to die at the hands of Grindewalds followers .
The dual between them will also be comical
the movie has so many plot that its too convoluted, but i really like that aurelius and dumbledore blood pact ending
@@gabe_liu9095 The blood pact is stupid
Aberforth sacrificed his schooling and ambitions for his beloved sister and that part in the book when he was saying his story was heart-breaking...needless to say all Dumbledores are great ....
4:01 - 4:03 While it was not invested in as much in the movies as in the books (AKA, S.P.E.W), this was an example of when Hermione's intelligence/thoughtfulness which then translated into her politeness/care for others, surpassed that of Harry and Ron, for they simply did not understand a person (or living being) when she did.
Also, I truly love how Neville called Aberforth Dumbledore, "Ab" at 4:44.
It's also wonderfully satisfying to me that he simply says, "Hey, Ab!" to call him-- like they've been friends for ages!
@@noorykorky5056 Well they kind of have been, they used this secret passage every day.
Dumbledore did talk about his brother. When making Hagrid understand that there are people out there who not care about him being a half giant, he told him that his brother was accused of practising inappropriate magic on his goat and yet he kept his head high. He also added that he cannot read so that might have been more like oblivion than bravery.
He also did talk about his sister
I think that aberforth was testing harry in this scene.He wanted to see if he gave up.
That’d be unnecessary. Albus woulda told Aberforth all about Harry. Therefore, he wouldn’t need to test him on if he’d gave up
@@joewhitehead3 No, it was a test. Hermione said it all. That it doesn't sound like someone who had given up.
I was shook that they kept so much in contact regarding the mirror...........if anything it was to encourage him
I respect Harry standing up against Aberforth saying he didn’t care about the dispute with Albus. That was a subtle highlight to his character and knowing where he stood with Albus as he knew him, that he’s grown up and isn’t, in fact, a foolish ‘boy’ like Aberforth implied he was (at first).
It's also a very straightforward way of coming to terms with years and years of manipulation by Dumbledore, of not being able to think or reason like him, not knowing the least bit about his story and motives, but still respecting the man for his deeds. I feel like this speaks directly to those (like myself) who would think Dumbledore was an ass to Harry.
@@ignazioacerenza9881 Dumbledore knew after goblet of fire, that harry would survive the killing curse. But he couldn’t let harry know that, otherwise harry couldn’t give everybody the love protection. In order for him to survive he had to accept that he was gonna die, it had to be genuine. Dumbledore cared for him, but he valued the safety of the wizarding world over harry
@@ignazioacerenza9881 “years and years of manipulation” lmaoooo. Yeah no. Dumbledore didn’t manipulate Harry. Manipulate a Gryffindor? No. Work within and around a Gryffindor’s choices. Sure.
@@Arichxc He deliberately witheld life-saving information at several points of the story, especially from Harry. In particular the worst moment is when he leaves Harry's training in the hands of Snape without offering Harry full context of Snape's motives. He not only manipulates but forces Harry to be a manipulator himself, using Slughorn to get access to the memories for something he has already confirmation of (the horcruxes). But the worst part is that, Instead of taking care of Harry and raising him he sends him off to be abused by the Dursley as a character building excercise.
Dumbledore never moved past his old motto: "for the greater good". He played everyone around him to achieve his goals because he saw it as the only possible way to beat voldemort. That's it.
@@FM_SM and that value makes sense a few gone but atleast it isn't the whole
Love how Hermoine caught the tension and automatically put down the food Abeforth offered them... Meanwhile, Ron kept eating until he caught on last minute lol
After Voldemort died, Aberforth gathered his belongings, took up the name of Mance Rayder, joined the Night's Watch and journeyed across the wall to become the king beyond the wall!
It's funny, cause if you look up the scene where he questions Jon Snow for the first time they have a similar conversation. He literally has the same 'I ask you one last time'- line.
He also courted Anne Elliot as a young naval officer, who participated in the war with Napoleon.
I knew there was something familiar about his face. Even though i´ve only seen Ciarán in Game of Thrones and The Terror as far as i remember, such a amazing actor is hard to forget.
He was also known as Julius Ceaser
'That's a boy's answer' is also a really GOT-esque line, to be honest :D
This scene has one the best acting (from Aberforth's actor) in the whole of harry potter films. It was a very small but also very important role...
Totally agree. This tiny slice of cinema was great on the acting front. Even Watson and Radlcifee, both whom are painfully mediocre actors, were quite decent. I think this scene had a good bit of tension, sadness and relief to it, which I think is a reflection of the screenplay.
@@TickleMeElmo55 Finally someone says it. Radcliffe and Watson were bang average actors, and that's being kind. So many people seem oblvious to how bad they were, they probably grew up with them and are bind to it. The actors who played Ginny and Percy were even worse. I'm fairly sure that's why they cut Ginny so much from POA onwards, they knew how bad she was. I feel like they could've easily replaced that actress, but they didn't have the balls to do it. Book Ginny was charasmatic, all action, and beautiful; movie Ginny was none of those things, and it just didn't feel right that Harry ended up with her, yet in the books it made more sense. Honestly, it's worth learning Spanish to watch the dubbed versions because the voice actors are waaaaaaaaay better than the actors used in the movie, particularly the kids. It made the whole experience 10x better for me, and I'm English! I suspect it's similar in other languages, but there's something so authentic about Spanish people's voices.
@@futurez12 glad to know Spanish dub is appreciated between English speakers! As an Spaniard, I can agree that with high budget films it is common to hire talented people for the dubs, and that shows. I also enjoy the original version at some points, but the Spanish one has more character to it imho.
The actor is the magnificent Ciaran Hinds
The King Beyond The Wall , Mance Rayder
" You don't strike me as a foul , Jon Snow! So I' ll ask you again....." ," You don't strike me as a foul Harry Potter, so I'll ask you again...." and " That's a boy's answer.....". Do I remember correctly? The same lines he used here, he used in GOT. Even the same intonation. Or am I remembering it all wrong....cause it's been a while since I last saw this GOT scene.
carmen claudia let me check that 😂👌🏻
His face is obviously masked very well. Wasn't until hearing his voice that I realized it was Ciarán Hinds
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Nah that's Julius Caesar!
i miss got 😭
This scene was messed up by Harry telling him that they were hunting Horcruxes. In the books, it was made clear that that was supposed to be a secret and that nobody other than Harry, Ron, and Hermione were supposed to know about it. However, this scene did have a redeeming factor which was Aberforth saying "In all the time you've known him, did he ever mention my name? Did he ever mention her's?" That was a powerful line that wasn't in the book.
A lot of people have their ideas muddled on Dumbledore because he's so complicated. But to me in the end he was one of the most kind hearted, flawed, powerful, and intelligent wizards ever. He was young once like anyone. He had his flaws like anyone. But he dealt with them and most of his old age was spent doing something good. Being the best headmaster in the wizarding world. The moments we see him acting in a way that seems cruel or without heart ALWAYS have an explanation. When he hesitates and stumbles on his words when he says "yes he must die" to Snape it's not easy for him because he cares so much for Harry, yet he knows it must be done, and his theory in his head that Harry will survive because he is a horcrux only barely gives him enough to push him forward with that idea. He is so happy, calm, and bright when talking to Harry after Voldemort kills the horcrux inside him because it is finally over. He doesn't have to make any hard and deadly decisions because no more need to be made.
2:48 Daniel Radcliffe’s delivery of those two lines is just brilliant
Even though Aberforth despises his late brother he is deep down guilt ridden about how late sister died. Even though it is left to debate who killed her I think Grindlewald being the evil one fired the killing shot towards Aberforth and Albus saved him by using expellemurus but it deflected the curse and hit Ariana instead and Aberforth probably wished Albus never saved his life as Ariana may have lived and will probably still wish he was killed and never forgave Albus for it.
Grindelwald only laughed at Ariana during the duel. It was always heavily implied, that one of her brothers killed her.
Aberfourth doesn’t despise his brother. In fact he is the only person who truly knows Albus and the only person he really wants to hang around with is Aberfourth. He was frustrated that Dumbledore sent three barely of age wizards on some magical goose chase while the death eaters were doing victory laps.
thats pure conjecture they all killed her
Probably the dumbest thing in the movies was the fact many other characters knew about horcruxes and Voldemort could "feel" them when destroyed. The whole friggin point was that they had keep it secret between Dumbledore, Harry, Ron and Hermione. Otherwise Voldemort would move them in places impossible to find and literally *everybody* would have been searching for them. Why else it was just these three searching for them?
2:04 considering Albus's true intentions of Harry, I think Aberforth was trying to tell Harry about who Albus truly was but that's just my thought
i love harry’s answer honestly
I find the sentence "You're Aberforth, Dumbledore's brother" very disrespectful
Idk what it is but the chemistry between Daniel and Ciaran here is just on a whole other level. They bounce off each other remarkably well. I wish they had more scenes together.
They have great chemistry in The Woman in Black too.
Watching this scene after “secrets of dumbledore” hits differently
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I felt for him a bit he just seemed to harbour so much pain . The way he spoke about his brother and sister makes it sound like he and they were happy before the viper turned up . Then it all went to shite and the rest is history .
The anguish when he said that " he sacrificed many things in his search for power " makes me wonder if Dumbledore did more than Rowling claimed he did . It sounded like she was trying to hint that he did .
Yes. In the flashback of Snape's memories from the Pensine(last movie), when Snape begs Dumbledore to hide the Potter's, Dumbledore's answer was : "what would I have in exchange for this ?"
Proving that he probably wasn't the kind hearted wizard Harry though he was. Abelforth's answer is probably a reflection of this too.
@@g.s.632 You fool! He wanted Snape to join him. That's what he meant.
@@AtharvPriyadarshanam That doesnt mean he was kind hearted and, futhermore, proves Dumbledore was manipulative.
@@androsram641 Manipulation is not always a bad thing. It CAN ultimately righteous purposes.
@@androsram641 yes of course he was manipulative, he wasn't talking to a "friend", he was talking to a death eater begging him to hide someone he endangered by telling Voldemort part of the prophecy (mind you he doesn't give two craps about the baby and the husband dying, and he wouldn't have given a shit to begin with if it wasn't lily who he put in danger -explicitly confronted over this in the books-)
Of course he was gonna hide her either way, Christ that number was just to get Snape's loyalty. He's in a WAR and has the opportunity to have a death eater as a double agent. He was using very effectively the cards he was dealt with.
I wish they had played out this conflict between Aberforth and Dumbledore a bit more. One of the reasons Dumbledore is one of my favorite characters is that he is Machiavellian; he did what he had to do to ensure the triumph of the good, gladly taking upon himself the burden of any pain he caused.
I don’t know much about Aberforth but he seems like in his younger days after he separated himself from his brother after their sisters death I feel like in that time he would’ve been a powerful and badass HP character, I kinda wanna see more of him
He will be in the next fantastic beast film secrets of dumbledore watch the trailer.
Ciarin Hinds is a great actor
In my opinion, Ariana looks a lot like Jude Law, who plays the younger Dumbledore
A girl has no name - that’s his sister irl
“I’m not interested in what happened between you and your brother. I don’t care that you’ve given up. I trusted the man I knew”. As soon as Harry said that, in my opinion, he gained Aberforth’s respect. Aberforth said that Harry didn’t strike him as a fool, and Harry’s response confirmed to him that he wasn’t. That’s why he sent Arianna to fetch Neville, and why he went to Hogwarts to fight, all because of that answer
Fraser Gibson ok boomer
Huh? ? What's this got to do with me being a boomer? Which I'm not by the way
Fraser Gibson
Great analysis. I came to the same conclusion based solely on Ciarán Hinds’ reaction. Great scene, thanks for your input.
@@frasergibson5763 Actually it was still a boy's answer. The truth is, Albus Dumbledore being constantly Harry's paternal figure, harry could not develop himself to be a full grown up. For entire series, he was only performing Dumbledore's tasks.
@@vladmarcu3536 you must be fun at parties
Fun fact:
The same actor played Mance Rayder from GoT
they're both savages
Mance Rayder and Aberforth Dumbledore: 2 characters who put kids in their place
He's also Captain Wentworth and Rochester. Swoon.
He's also Steppenwolf
Strange that both characters also ask Harry/Jon Snow a question & then call them out for giving a rubbish answer.
"Please, we have families" *bored tone* "Why does everyone keep telling me that?"
Aberforth is probably the realest person in any of these movies.
I like Harry's answer to his question. Straight and to the point; he knew he didn't have the time for it.
I want to see the three way duel I want to see Albus and Gellert's summer love i want to see Ariana's obscurus form. Give it to me Fantastic Beast
The Duel with Dumbledore and Grindelwald (pron: Grindevald) will not be seen until the fifth film of Fantastic Beasts.
This wouldn't make any sense, the duel happened before Fantastic Beasts
@Hannah Dyson this trilogy wont be cancelled thier suspossed to do 5 movies.
Why the fuck would Ariana be an Obscurial?
Obscurials are born when they suppress their magic.
@@Kncperseus They are also made through a traumatic incident. Which is the case for Ariana.
After watching and reading this scene for the 200th time you realize Aberforth was testing the trio the entire scene.
Clearly, Aberforth didn't know his brother as well as he thought. Aberforth knew Albus longer, but he didn't truly understand him like Harry did.
Aberforth is amazing with the trio.
This hits different after Secrets of Dumbledore
Albus did mention his brother, but only once. He called Aberforth brave but also possibly illiterate.
I like to mention Harry's growth throughout the series as seen in this movie. He has finally mastered occulomency and can shut Voldemort out which is why Voldemort could not enter his mind after the Malfoy Manor incident or the Gringotts theft. The grief and the sense of purpose repelled any outside penetration. He also learnt to trust Albus, as he says to Aberforth in this scene. He does not care what people have to say or what Albus did when he was a teenager. He was given a mission and that mission is more important. In the first scene, he chose to prioritise horcruxes over hallows and interviewed Griphook first when he knew Voldemort was about to acquire the Elder Wand. He knew Albus wanted him to know about the Deathly hallows but not to do anything with the information. Maybe it was Dobby's death that made him realise his faults. He gets too emotional and distracted. Something Snape told him in one of their Occulomency lessons.
I came to rewatch this scene after Fantastic Beasts and the Secrets of Dumbledore. Albus has done many good things but being a good brother was not one of them. Aberforth lost his sister as well. And a woman he loved, his only son, Aurelius. Albus literally was raising Harry was a pig for slaughter just to defeat Voldemort. Snape said it himself. I understand why Aberforth told Harry to leave and live a little longer. It was a suicide mission for many in the end. Harry was almost one of them if he didn’t decide to come back to fight. Sounds wrong of me however I feel like all of it could have been done differently than it went down. Thanks for uploading.
But dumbledore actually loved Harry and I’m sure had there been another way he would of taken to to save Harry and he loved him and dumbledore himself admitted it in order of phoenix telling him he cared more about him and his happy then anyone else dumbledore was flawed yes but he is a hero he’s been there for world whenever they’ve needed him voldermort would not have died without him he knew he wanted power so he stopped himself every time they offered the post of minister of magic he might be flawed but he’s a hero and a great man
Re Harry saying "I don't care about what happened between you and your brother" and "I need to get into the school tonight", I don't is arrogant... I think Harry's been through a lot by this point, it's a time factor (Harry doesn't have time to chat) and he's just focusing on what he has to do that night and had limited time.
I mean, maybe being slightly dismissive about something that someone else (Aberforth) thinks IS worth taking the time to go into - maybe just two people briefly at cross purposes and also probably he would have been a bit curious about what Harry was like in person maybe so Aberforth threw a few things at him.
Why arrogant?
This scene is awesome, for starters aberforth is right. Harry’s first answer of I trusted him is a boys answer. However both aberforth and harry realize that Harry’s answer is what a man says. I need your help regardless of what you really think.
For all of Aberforth's charges that Harry acts like a boy instead of a man, it is Aberforth who is forever stunted as an angry little boy. People makes mistakes, terrible, unforgivable sins where your whole world comes crashing down, it is easy to want to give up. But Albus, and even Snape they didn't let their self loathing stop them for doing what needs to get done. Albus lived in pain, in guilt, in shame, but he kept going on put away Grindelwald, made discoveries in magic, wrote laws, became a teacher a headmaster a mentor a friend, he continued to live even if he never felt alive. Aberforth chose to waste away his life in a bar dwelling on hating his brother, and doing nothing wasting away his immense talent. If Harry learned anything from Dumbledore it is to never give up, Aberforth has no right to lecture Harry or question Albus relationship loyalty towards Harry that is between two men.
I was surprised that this was Ciaran Hinds. Such a brilliant actor.
Aberforth just wanted someone to vent to. There's not many in their world that could possibly comprehend what he felt. Harry was the only other closest to Albus, and thus Aberforth knew that Harry was the only other that can understand the significance of his venting. In fact, he may have seen a bit of Albus in harry. Because when he vented, to Harry, it seemed like something he'd say to albus himself. But when Harry said "I don't care what happened between you and your brother", that when he knew, that Harry was not a rip off copy of Albus.
And Aberforth may also have thought that this might be the last time he'd ever have any chance to vent at all because at this point it wasn't certain Harry was going to survive, and he's a life of regret. So he decided I think to brain dump as much venting as he could all at once.
Seeing that Harry didn't care, he seemed to have a relieved face. He even did the classic Dumbledore eye twitch.
Harry, Ron and Hermione might have been more respectful had they known they were talking to the king beyond the wall.
People who are saying Harry is arrogant, tell me, haven't you read the book? Because Aberforth is the real jerk one here.
At this point in his life he was an exhusted old man with nothing to live for , and in all honesty was frustrated when someone showed a glimmer of hope because he couldn't find any for himself .
So yes he was a jerk there , but in this instance I think it's understandable
@@hannahdyson5603 of course, but that doesn't mean that Harry was arrogant, like many people are saying here
@@sakura072593 Maybe because Harry sounds fustratated at him holding a grudge .
Which maybe seen as arrogance
@@hannahdyson5603 maybe
@@sakura072593 In this scence his tone and facial expressions just ooze frustration ...he's fustrated because Aberforth has given up and because he knows how his brother felt about what happend. He knows that grudge is being held because Aberforth won't accept that Albus felt guilty or any remorse .
Because Aberforth is stubborn and set in his ways ...
"He doesn't sound like somebody who's given up..." Chilling.
I loved that Nevil held down the fort while Albus, Harry and many of his friends were gone. He kept the students safe. That’s what also makes him the chosen one. He kills the snake
Interesting fact: though in movies his brother is only introduced in last film, in books dumbledore actually introduced him in goblet of fire in front of trio and hagrid.
What chapter in the goblet of fire?
@@thetronwarriors4817 in the yule ball chapter, dumbledore mentions his brother during dinner
Ciarán Hinds plays Aberforth Dumbledore. That is some wonderfully good and impressive acting.
You're Aberforth. Dumbledore's brother.
Bruh, both our last names are Dumbledore.
Sorry, you're Albus's brother.
Yes.
It's the nature of the relationship between Albus and Harry. As his direct superior, it wouldn't be appropriate for Albus and Harry to be on a first name basis.
I feel alberforts pain and why he is the way he is after ariana died he was never the same again and never forgave Dumbledore for not keeping her alive. I do believe it was grindlwald who killed her by accident of course there was a three way duel between dumbldore grindlwald and Albertfort and one of them shot out the killing curse and accidentally hit ariana by accident. Grindlwald fled and stole the elder wand albertfort and Dumbledore never spoke to each other again. grindlewald went to crime and started to cause chos trying to expose the wizarding world. I hope they show all this in one of the fantastic beast films.
Those movies wouldnt be fantastic if such moments werent included.
I actually believe it was Albus who killed his sister. And that thought was why he held.out for so long.
@@chromeshellking i actually think it was a deflected blow. So grindelwald tried to hit ablus who defelcted it which hit ariana
The books are better, having more details and stuff. Even if the movies are pretty good too.
It seemed to me the movies worse when the books got thicker because they had to leave more out. They did a pretty good job overall but the books feel more compete and more serious to me.
Doesn’t really make sense for me, to say that the books are better because of the inherent differences between books and cinema and not because they’re better as books then the movie is as a movie.
I wish they could have actually showed the real line in what Harry said it was truly remarkable line
@Iron Man How about no
I just saw the clip where Jon Snow asks Mance to let him join the Free Folk. It's the same actor and a very similar situation. The way Aberforth says 'I'll ask you again' is the same as Mance said it to Jon Snow. Very interesting parallel
Looking forward to seeing Aberforth and Ariana appear in the Fantastic Beasts films since Albus and Grindelwald's final duel is a major event that affects the Dumbledore siblings.
I think Ariana is already dead in the fantastic beast films but they may show her in a flashback on what happened,.
tesseract2012 Ariana is dead in the fantastic beast films
Ariana died in 1899, the 2nd movie takes place in 1927 and the final duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald takes place in 1945. But I really hope we'll get to see Aberforth! But we can also have flashbacks.
I remember Albus mention Ab in book when Hagrid get News from Rita Skeeter giant mom.. About not good familly...
This is the moment Aberforth became McClaggen
Ciarán Hinds did a great job as Abeforth Dumbledore in this scene.
That's MF - Ciaran Hinds, from Rome.
Legendary actor - played Caesar.
Ciarán Hinds really made you feel like he was raised in the same home as Dumbloredore in this role. Small subtle cues that tie the two together, in voice and in movement. Same person essentially, just a different outlook
You know it's really sad to be honest cause Aberforth has had a tough life. He had a son he had no idea about "Credence" or as he was born Aurelius Dumbledore who died not shortly after they finally met. Had a woman he loved (Aurelius Mother) who was banished by the British Ministry if I remember correctly. His sister died in an accident caused by Albus and himself and to top it all off a bit of a feud with his brother for years up until Albus died. The man has clearly had a dark time. I hope in the end he found some peace.
(Yes I know this is fictional but still the man needs some damn peace)
Who is here after Fantastic Beasts: The Secrets of Dumbledore (2022)?
Aberforth had the strongest Patronus in the film series, he's part of a family tree with known heavy hitters like Albus and Credence, he lead the vanguard in the battle of hogwarts and survived it.
The guy was probably stronger than any single death eater, but isn't recognized as such.
4:10 Thank you Hermione!
7 years to find out Dumbledore had a brother.
a sister and another brother ( credance) 😂😂😂😂
It's mentioned in Book 4.
Who here after watching Fantastic Beasts And The Secrets Of Dumbledore
Me
Me too
Yes. It was Faustus Blackwood from Chilling Adventures of Sabrina, Richard Coyle.
This right here is the precise point Harry officially becomes a man. It's tempting to say it's when Sirius died, but trauma doesn't necessarily make one grow up. This is Harry standing his ground to a man with way more experience and knowledge than him. Being a man doesn't necessarily mean being right, (Aberforth is right in the end because Albus was willing to sacrifice Harry to kill Voldemort proving he can't be trusted). It means standing up for what you believe and finishing the job no matter what you have to do.
Thumbs down all you want, but this is mainly the reason men mostly run the world. For the record, I wholeheartedly believe women can do just as good a job, but generally speaking, women don't work well with other women they can't stand. Their emotions keep getting in the way. I've worked with guys who absolutely LOATHED each other. But they do it and do it well because, at the end of the day, nobody cares about a man's feelings. All people care about is results. Every man I knew who was in a relationship before the Great Recession and before they lost their job, wasn't afterwards.
It could've been so easy for Harry to get sidetracked here. He's finding out Albus is hiding all kinds of secrets from him. But he sees past Aberforth's perspective because he knows what he knows. And right or wrong, he's going to follow it through.
I forget how much more better the older actors can be at times
In the book, Harry doesn't tell Aberforth anything about the Horcruxes, but he tells him something about that there are more important things than personal safety, and that there was a war going on.
Besides, the entire story of him, with his brother, Grindewald and Ariana has been skipped, although, I recognize it was hard to fit in, perhaps in the next fantastic beast movie there will be a better approach.
Fun fact after the battle at hog watts and Voldemort was defeated. Aberforth travelled north and became the king beyond the Wall
It's funny, but after watching the latest Fantastic Beasts film, one hast to wonder just how much Aberforth hated Albus. But we all know that out of anyone, Aberforth was the one person in the world who knew Albus the most, and he knew full well that the mission of hunting down Horcruxes was the most dangerous thing a person, human or wizard could ever do. And for Albus to trust that burden on a 17 year old boy with about as much intelligence as a child with gun, Aberforth understood that Albus truly lost his mind at his old age, and was still making the same reckless mistakes he always made. Though, there is something that Aberforth did not know about Harry, and that was the fact that Harry had a determination that rivaled even most experienced wizard, and an iron-clad will that made even Voldemort scared shitless.
He didn't know his brother at all, if he had he'd have recognised that Albus felt guilty about Ariana until the day he died. Aberforth thought that Albus didn't care about her which is just not true.
@@MasterOfTheElements It was Aberforth that hadn't realized Ariana was an Obscurial, forced to hide her magical heritage for fear of persecution. He thought she was simply powerless. Until it became too much.
Nikolas Flamel was 400years old,Dumbledore was almost 100 years old,19 years later Hermione looks younger than her daughter lol
That a actor.
I loved this scene. Learning more about the Dumbledore family.
1:04 implying that Aberforth treated Dobby better than Malfoy’s
Of course. Aberforth wouldn’t torture Dobby and give him death threats.
Am I the only one who love's Aberforth????
I LOVE Aberforth too. He was a better man than his brother, always, consistently. He kept checking in and looked out for Harry & sent help to Harry and gang and cared about his best interest instead of treating him like a pawn/sacrificing him for an end goal and respected his wishes despite holding a different opinion. He truly cared for those around him, and never sacrificed them for glory nor sought any for himself but quietly did the right thing on his own.
@@katieblake3023 If albus didn't use harry, Voldemort would still be around killing people.
Albus: "She was a consul of Rome"
i was told cirian hinds was in harry potter, but dont remember ever seeing his face in any of the movies. after having watched this, i can see now. lol.
i did not realize that Abeforth Dumbledore was played by Ciaran Hinds who played Julius Caesar on HBO's Rome
As well as mance raider in game of thrones
"You have to get into the school you say? RALLY THE 13TH!"
I'm sorry to hear that, I liked that elf! 😭😭😭
Can u imagine the living the life of this guy?! Both of your siblings are dead and no kids! So sad!🥺
And carrying the burden of being the most powerful Wizard in the world/the only surviving member of the Dumbledore family.😔
@@gabrielaarons6102 damn so the line did end with him😬
Yeah incidentally the middle child is the one who lives the longest
the no kids part sounds nice to me
@@S.D.323 he had a kid who died
“Behind every work of art lies the enormous pretension of exhibiting one’s vision of the world”
Dang alberforth is so hurt by losing his sister he isn't himself anymore i wonder if we will see her dying in the fantastic beast films i believe grindlwald killed her in the three way duel.
Aberforth states in The Deathly Hallows that he's not sure who it was that killed Ariana. He said it could have been any of the three of them.
It's in chapter 28, "The Missing Mirror".
Bit late to this conversation, but Ariana was killed when they fought as boys. Grindlewald wanted him to leave him brother and sister and go away with him. Unless there’s a flashback sequence, those events have already taken place by the time the Fantastic Beasts films are taking place.
These event already happened in the film's timeline. But I'm pretty convinced that it will appear in the flash back
“I’ll kill every man in Castle Black.”
Stannis baerathion - FUCK OFFF !!!
"I don't want to die"
-Aberforth Dumbledore, Mance Rayder
I assume its named after the dangerous Death Eater Sirius Black who helped Bellatrix escape prison its true I read it in the Daily Prophet
When Aberforth asks Harry, Ron, and Hermione if they even know how dangerous it is, my first reaction was, "You're talking to HARRY POTTER and his friends. Voldemort has been hunting Harry since he heard about the prophecy. Why would they not know how dangerous it is?!"
I couldn't recognise actor of Aberforth is a president Nemerov from 'Sum of all fears'(2004)
So interesting, same actor who plays Mance Rayder and even the part at 2:40 is very similar to when Mance first meets with Jon Snow…
So Mance went from here to north of the wall, and he always "ASKS AGAIN"
"I'm not interested of what happened between you and your brother" I trusted the man I knew"
Soo... with Albus dead does this mean Aberforth is the most powerful wizard now?
Probably,yes!!
@@AtharvPriyadarshanam That would be cool!
Nah, sadly it probably be Voldemort. The man has done great things (terrible yes) but great.
@@CesarACastillo we don't use that name 😒
Voldy is I'd say