I Tried Building My New Shop Myself. Will I Burn It Down?
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- Опубликовано: 4 дек 2023
- I tried building my new workshop myself to save $10,000. Will I do it right, or will I accidentally burn it down to the ground?
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“We don’t hear any leaks”… Cole, do a bubble test on all the pipe connections!
Yes this!!
USE A PROPANE TORCH TO FIND GAS LEAKS , NOT JOKING
Flame ck is easier
@@paulhailey2537dumbest advice ever
@@patcoder7308and not code
Tell us more about Romin. He seems to be a good guy.
Cole… you’ve made a HUGE difference in the farm in many, many ways. Take the time needed, do things correctly the first time, work smarter not harder. Keep doing you! God Bless
venting that heater to the outside is very important. I would not put it off.
For sure vent that heater asap! Get a carbon monoxide detector for the shop when you are at Menards.
When I wired my shop in my new garage I spaced my outlets every 32”. I placed quad boxes at each location with separate circuits for the left and right outlets. This upgrade is relatively cheap and means I never needed a drop cord. It also meant I could run my table saw and dust collector at the same time without blowing a breaker.
Also, run 20 amp circuits and use pro grade outlets. Again a minor cost difference but the outlets will last longer.
You might consider doing the same.
Also I believe you need GFCI circuits. If so you could use GFCI circuit breakers.
Note I am not an electrician but I hired a friend who was and he shepherded me and answered questions. All was done with plans, permits and inspections so it was all up to code.
It will work but not right. There is a code how many wires can be run in what size conduit .
This this this. They could over heat And cause some real provokes
3/4" emt conduit can hade 16 number `12 wires.
@@johnunsicker7440 I know there still a code book on this. No matter who does the work home or otherwise has to meet code local national.
@21:55 the reason for the air intake is to have a closed loop. Using outside air -> burns it -> exhausts it. If yoru intake pulled shop air, it would cause reduce the air pressure in the shop, in turn sucking cold outside air into the shop through gaps in doors/windows/siding.
When you make your terminations in the panel, be sure to loop some extra wire. If you ever need to move brakers or replace the panel, you'll will want the extra legnth so you don't have to run new (longer) wires. You can still have your box look nice and clean. Many youtube videos will show you this if you neec examples. Wish I could post you a photo.
Wrong
@@seanraymond4336 what’s wrong Sean?
Hi Papa Cole. Me thinks you have done wonders to the farm as a whole over the past year. Planted, Grew and Harvested. You cleaned up the farm, laid rock down, the work on the buildings continues, and the family maintains a graveyard. Me also thinks your plate is full !! Your focus has been good. Rome was not built in a day, right ?? And you're a Double Papa. Stay warm out there young man !!
Brilliant comment, and if I can add anything its that the family maintains 18 graveyards, keep up the good work.
@@leddielive Hello. Wow, I did not know that !! That just adds to how well an oiled machine the family farm is.
Cole, as a farmer, volunteer firefighter and retired insurance agent, please get an electrician to check your work. I have questions on some of the things done. If this shed burns down, insurance will try to not pay. They will hire a company to check the wiring and if not up to code, they will refuse to honor the claim. Any equipment damage will not be replaced. PLEASE get an electrician to check the wiring !!!!!
His electrician is advising him on it all he’s just doing the work him self to save the money his guy would charge
@@tedhart4468his electrician would not tell him to put that many wires in a conduit
He’s packing too many wires into the conduit. Plus several other things are not right.
@@tedhart4468 If his electrician is advising him, then I'd fire that electrician right away. He's way out of code or even safety at this point. It may seem funny, but it's a hard lesson once shit goes wrong.
What electrician would want to associate his name and good reputation to this project?
Cole as a fellow farmer I would really recommend getting a copy of the National Electrical Code. It will literally cover any questions you can ask like how many wires can fit into a conduit and what type, what gauge wire do you need to use, what you can put inside your breaker box... You've already finished the work probably but many things I've seen in the past couple videos have me getting that spidey-tingle of it not meeting the NEC book but I can't say what the code is from memory. DIY is great and can save cash and expand skills but always get it inspected (Here it is required by law for just about everything.)
cole when you think about it, its just as easy to do a little bit of clean-up every day as it is to make a mess and let things pile up every day. you spend the same amount of time either way usually. small bites every day wins the war in the end. and the sense of pride that comes with it in the end is a bonus!
Helpful elect hint-you only need one ground wire per conduit and if you use compression connectors for the conduit you can use the conduit itself as your ground. This save a ton of space and wire.
Always run a ground wire, Connectors can come loose.
I think you you need an emergency shut off switch near the doors for the heater.
In ontario we have to have our gas and electrical inspected. It is to your advantage and safety to have your heater and electrical inspected. Remember the electrician may have charged $10,000 the law suit can be in the millions. Get it inspected by the proper authorities!
When we in Canada can sue an inspector for a bad inspection they will become relevant. Lots of deplorable work passed by inspectors!
In the US you don't always need inspection on stuff like this most times it is just the main that get inspected.
You don’t push wire, you pull it with a tape
This is how you learn by making mistakes and redoing it. Learning skills like this are super important. Not everyone has resources to hire it out and lots of people learn by actually doing the work. I appreciate the transparency. Great job
I am amazed at the lack of concern (even to the point of poking fun at the electricians in the know in the title) regarding do it yourself wiring. While at the same time having major concern over the bin site and how dangerous it has become. There is a similarity between the bin site build and this wiring job, in both instances work was done without knowing what they were doing. Yet this time you expect a different out come?
His electrician walked him through how to do it properly he said it a few times in past videos he’s constantly asking and being told how. To do what he’s doing right
It doesn’t show . Work is sloppy and safety is absent .
Great to see your progress!
You might consider putting a string in your conduit and tying your wires to it to pull the wires through versus pushing the wires!
Good luck!
First time I've ever seen anyone try pushing them the whole way😂
I use a wire snake and pull my wires.
I think max wire in a 1/2" conduit is 4
Hey Cole, I think a smart idea in the new shop. Might be to throw a carbon monoxide detector or two in there just to be safe
He needs at least 4.
Yes, please. Certainly not something to skimp on. 💙
It’s loaded there’s no fucking vent!!!!😊
Cooper is right. Outlets down both sides and you should put some at the ceiling with retractable cords.
"Learn as we go" is a great approach to electrical work . . . until it isn't.
I love watching you guys farm and do stuff. I grew up on a farm and I know that there's tons of work and it's not always pretty. It's what keeps everything going. I enjoy your family dynamic. Blessings
WHAT A DIFFERENCe, your electrical box looks organized . Don't forget to label your breakers, Do not tie an electrical line to gas pipes. Glad your making progress. I still advise having a licensed electrician to check you work.
Who would want look at this work and have there name associated with this self help project?
You really should put the lighting contactor inside its own separate enclosure. Anyone can get the lights to come on. An electrician will make sure that the lights come on, the wires don't burn in half or become heating elements over time, and that no one gets electrocuted a few years down the road by completing path to the ground ( Hint: your entire building is a ground ).
But you do you.
I say this not as a joke but as a serious safety advice. You and probably your brother should take a 1 semester intro to home wireing class at your local community College. It will be worth and they will get you familiarized enough that you will know when and where to find the answers to question you are gonna have when doing your diy wireing with ac current.
Cole, call up my dad. He'll come out and check things over. I love DYI as much as the next guy, but electrical and gas needs an extra check.
It's very dangerous to tie anything carrying electricity to a gas line. Do not block access to your electrical panel. You need to reduce all fire hazards.
VERY GOOD ADVICE
I hardly think that low voltage T-STAT wire is going to blow up that garage. The hundreds of homes I marked out/drilled/piped/pulled/and than trimmed are doing just fine with the TSTAT wire taped to the furnace gas pipe. Now if you want to talk about some of the questionable stuff going on in this shop............
Gas Lines use either Teflon tape or plumber's putty at it's joints. The sealant can break the metal to metal contact needed to maintain a good ground potential it's entire length. Best not to use it as a ground source any higher than where you've placed the pipes ground line (#2 wire) to ground rod.
@@Mr.Brawls5965no one uses putty it’s pipe dope a drastically different thing. Also they don’t break the bind the threads always make metal to metal contact. In many states grounding of gas lines is required because they are conductive.
Well done Cole now you and your family should not get as many colds during the winter with the work shop being heated. Well done to you both on getting it done. Love the channel.
You should run a 4” pipe to the heater. Sucking through a small straw is way harder than sucking through a big straw. Giving the heater 4” will make it way more efficient.
Please get a electrician in there for complicated things like you're doing. I'd hate to see any of this go wrong, we love yall!
Not sure if you finished the fresh air yet but run a 4" intake with a reducer too 3-1/2" think of it like your equipment more fresh air the better it runs.. love the new shop and the farm is looking amazing!!! God bless you and your family
Thank you for your entertainment for me while in hospice care so thankful when God calls me home!
Cole thank your family for the entertainment while waiting for God's calling me home.
Sincerely!
R.S.V.
May your home going be easy and you are greeted by Jesus! ✝️
I saw you pushing lots of ground (green) wires through the conduit. You only need one ground wire in the conduit. It has to be bonded to each box, but you only need one wire from the panel through the conduit to each box and fixture.
Great job, Cole. So proud of you. I like your new student. Nice guy.
Thank you for sharing; the glow in your face made me smile. I am so happy for you.
Nice progress ! 👍
It is a lot of work but you will be finished before you know it ! 👍👍
Cole, next time use 3/4 inch conduit, maximum wires in a 1/2 conduit of 12 gauge is 9 .
Buy a 100ft fish tape to pull wires in conduit
Sound advice!!!
No worries, Cole. Yer learning. Like you said, breakers are the failsafe
Good work. Enjoy your shop. You need the outlets on the other side and outlets near the doors in case you need to run extensions outside.
If you get a 50-100' spool of self winding extension cord, you don't have to install power to the other side, and you eliminate 99% of all future power reach issues within that shop all in one go.
Better solution overall, and saves a LOT of time.
Wall mount, self spooling extension cord reel.
Congratulations on the birth of your baby. Great video. I like your new intro.
I hope that you did the soap test on your gas joints to be sure that there are no leaks. Good work.
As a former ibew narrowback. I’ve seen some shotty work and this is iffy. A simple fish tape and some pulling lube. Don’t push…pull. Pipe work looks good. Hire a licensed/insured contractor to pull wire and make connections.
Cole your making good progress don't burn the place down copper will help 😊peace
I’ve worked in areas with those heaters and it’s so so. There are major hot/cold areas with them but it’s better than nothing
How wonderful to see some of these projects come to fruition! What great diversity of talents between Daddy Cornstar, Cooper and You!!
do not put the thermostat wire on the gas line. even thow it's low voltage you don't want the arcing on the gas line
Amateur hour .
Contactors are good for over 10amp.circuits or frequently switched lines - toggle switch will fall if overloaded. spectacularly.💥
So for the thermostat make sure you have a drop down transformer and the reading on a thermostat rh- read heat rc- read cooling g- for fan c- common
Get yourself some wire lube makes pulling wires through conduit so much easier also pulling wire is much easer then pushing through. Talcum powder will work in a pinch and with a baby at home you surely have that available.
You know what the difference is between an Electrician and a Farmer? Electricians do not pretend to be Farmers --- haha
The difference is abt sixty bucks an hour😂
If that electrician ever planted a garden you could say he was.
Farmer knows how to clean up behind himself electricians not so much 😂
@@SLCFarmsI agree 💯
@@SLCFarmsamen
Tape around the switch screws! Fine for Temporary use! 9:06
C- common black or blue depending on make. RH/R 24 v red. G- green usually fan motor. O- not in this system but is reversing valve for heat pumps. And w2 is heat white wire usually for heat pump secondary heat. W- white single stage heat
I love your breakdown on how you breakdown the responsibilities and roles on the farm. It's great that DC listens to both of you and that you listen to and recognize that you should listen to Cooper.
But Cole, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE bite the bullet and get an electrician. I love your diy spirit, but there's a time and a place.
Cole you are amazing!! We need more young men just like you in this world.
Exciting progress. Good job.
So happy for you, God bless your family!
every electrician watching this installation is probably saying nooooo! . Ive worked on farms a lot. Seen work done by farmers before. First time i have ever commented on somebody else's work, always enjoy the video's apart from this
I didnt read all the comments, but the wire you used in the conduit looks to be SOLID copper, a easier wire to work with is stranded (I think its called THNN) Way more flexible and its what real electricians work with. Solid copper is fine, just harder to work with.
The heater is working so good I had to take my hoodie off while I'm sitting here on the couch.
Slow and steady wins the race..the family is lucky to have you! Some dont care what they have to work around to get things done..even crap that has been on the floor for 40 years..I, Like you, could not stand that. Good job!
Breakers only work if you precisely match the cable spec to the breaker. If you get this wrong, you get fire. In addition, breakers have load profiles. You need to match the breaker to the load type. It's all complicated, and thats why you use a trained and accredited electrician.
I sure hope you keep Roman around!
Cole I’ve learned one thing in my 71 yrs on earth unless one grain of sand is removed you can not move the mountain. Believe this sir I’ve blown down and through mountains even when we reduced the rock to dust and fines all that awesome power still came down to one grain of sand…..
Your doing an amazing job with the farm !!
Truer words were never spoken you could stand on the top of things back in the day because they were built better and people wasn’t stupid😂❤
Cole i know u did some insulation in your house but u should use use blue plastic conduit an outlets in befor foam goes on.then u can fish tape an pul in wires.easy to do or redo if u need to
Cooper is fix it master mind. Does he have any suggestions if you are wiring correctly? It will all work out hopefully.
The smile of success!!
God bless you, Cole. Getting things clean and done.
Bubbles leak test.
Can you imagine what is was like with REA lighting up your house and Farm ? I have read that the animals had trouble adjusting. Nice job Cole.
Keep the great work cole
Electric code specifies how many conductors of what size you can place in a conduit. Also what size junction boxes you need based on number and size of wires. You wouldn't pass inspection with what you have, but no permit, no inspection.....
@24:00 the light of your soul shines through for a moment.
Roman is a nice addition. What a nice guy.
Wonderful. You have come a long way!! Proud of you!!! Love the Edward sitings, just sayin!!
Cole I worked in a machine shop that was 200 yards long and we had 12 tube heaters to cover that area. Per side.
I LOVE ROMAN!!! Such a great smile!! ♥️♥️♥️
The ceiling junction boxes have to many connection in them and wires. We always just ran one ground, one neutral and then a few hots wires. Not a ground and neutral for each circuit.
Those connectors are called farenstock (sp) terminals.
How does that heater vent out? Carbon monoxide is real. I have no clue about that heater but you might invest in some co detectors..
Might be healthy to get an electrician out to just do a final inspection and also check your wire temperatures with an ir camera. They can also tell you if you messed up vs code anywhere. A couple hours paid to an electrician isn't that expensive comparatively.
Don’t over heat that heater, thermostat needed, auto off at night.
Thanks for the video !
thanks Cole! Hello from Colorado.
You guys are so brave, where I'm at, it's against code to work on live equipment. Stay strong!
Hope Sable will be able to see the new heated shop. Those motorcycles reminded me of when she use to buzz around with Nava around the farm.
I spent my entire career working for a company that was devoted to public safety. Wiring / electricity is NOT something that an inexperienced person should be doing. Especially when gas is involved. The bins are so unsafe … now this building. Come on Cole. You’re a smart guy … start acting like it.
You spent a lifetime building up fear in yourself. Running circuits is extremely simple and had pretty foolproof safety measures. An electrician is without question the simplest trade to be part of ….pretty diy safe and he did a great job
Really he's not. He does very dumb stuff all the time and so far he's gotten lucky. Nothing happens, so we get a veiled condescending video about how people told him it was wrong but it's all working ok. That'll keep happening until it doesn't, then it'll be too late.
@@FuenteSmoker it’s 110v no one is dying , nothing Is burning ! Ask a residential electrician to wire a relay ….they generally struggle and wire poke the way he is!
@@FuenteSmoker that’s the farm way! I grew up on a farm, your profit margin is already so slim, if he was to bring in a professional for everything, they would go broke, or prices would have to go up even higher. He should keep doing it, learning, and also researching proper ways like buying uglies electrical guide, rather than watching RUclips videos. Every code and answer is right there for the grabbing , including pulling rather than pushing wire. Using proper conduit size, keeping to the right amount of allowable wire in each conduit without having to derate a circuit. That offset he pulled into the panel , all those 12awg thhn are now DeRated from 20 amp to 15 or 10 because there are so many in 1 conduit. There’s a reason electrical IS authorized for the howmeowner to do themselves, it’s easy! Just research and ask licensed electricians. If I recall he has a friend who is an electrician.
My dad has basically wired everything on our farm 😂 granted he was a Technical Education teacher for 30 years
Good. If the building is still there in the morning. Success!!
Hey, it’s easy to criticize imperfections from your lounge chair.
I’m gonna say Cole congratulations it was a difficult job that needed to be done for 18 years. You did the work yourself, you learned some new skills, you saved your farm thousands of dollars. You can’t expect it to be perfect the first time and you can go back and work out the corrections later. Thanks for sharing.
Having a 4" intake and exhaust piping helps keep the airflow what they want. Each bend coming into the building or exiting reduces the airflow. So oversizing to 4" instead of the 3" opening will offset the bends.
Congratulations on the newest member of your family
You mentioned that a contactor is like a breaker......only in that it is a switch, which would have been a better analogy :-) A breaker is a safety device that will trip depending on the current/t. A contactor is just a heavy duty switch
That's about the neatest electrical 24:26 box I've ever seen, no amateur did that, I think your friend Roman is a "ringer" he's done electrical work before.
I like the new intro that’s really cool
i was nervous having you and your friend do the electrical work yourself. If I were you, I would pay to have a licensed electrician just come out and review it to make sure it is safe and won't cause any problems, now or in the future.
Your State requires you get a permit to perform electrical work. It would be inspected and in this case failed for multiple points. All cables entering panel to have restraints, auxiliary equipment not allowed inside of panel enclosure, grounding bar to be isolated from neutral bar, interior cover plate, conduit and outlet box fill rate, use of GFCI, possibly more violations per local codes and NEC Requirements. Many insurance companies will refuse to cover death or destruction from unauthorized electrical installation. This is also true for Gas Pipe installations.
It’s really coming along😊😊😊😊
Hey man I'm a new subscriber and I'm from Alabama so you know I'm loving this video can't wait for the next one
Marry Chirstmas And A Happy New Years And May God Bless You And Your Family Great Video From The State. Of Ohio
Run 3/4" conduit to the other side of the shop. 1/2" is good for a single circuit like to a clock or refrigerator where you will never add anything else. Do not use utility boxes for the outlets , use 4" sq boxes, and yes you will need to break off the ears to mount them, they attach to the cover. With a 4" sq box you can put on a quad outlet (double duplex) or an outlet and a switch.