Tips for High Handicap Golfers
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- Опубликовано: 27 авг 2024
- A 28 handicap has 10 holes where they get 2 shots. And yet I still see people trying to bust a gut with the driver to get on a par 4 in 2 when their handicap dictates they should get on the green in 4 shots.
If you do have 4 shots then why not take 3? I see a lot of net birdies in your future.
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Love this. Only 10% of golfers break 80 on a regular basis yet the internet is full of 3’s hitting $1,200 irons telling us we need the newest $600 game improvement driver.
Are you sure we don't need $600 drivers and $500 putters? Not to mention a 5 iron that someone wrote a 7 on the bottom of it by mistake.
Golf isn't crazy - it's just the promises that you can get better by buying new gear. Cheers
@@thehairygolfer greetings from midwest N America. I’m a fan. at 71 I’m wondering if game improvement irons would help me (hitting 18 year old Cobras). All I see is 3 handicap golfers testing these GI clubs on youtube. That doesn’t really help us. What do you suggest? Can you get a high handicapper out on the course and see if they help him? Would like to see that happen.
@@howardstory1391 I like game improvement irons as long as they don't have stupid lofts. Weight down low helps get the ball up, a bigger face gets you a bigger sweet spot. Problem is finding some that don't have a wedge of 42 degrees and do you have to buy the extra wedges? I've never looked into what makes up a set.
I don't have access to clubs unfortunately, I would love to do club testing videos and drag in the views. I just can't do it. I agree watching a gorilla pound balls into a tv screen is no use for us at all. Sorry, I can't help.
Simon, you should golf here in southern Arizona--we get, on average, only 12" of rain PER YEAR! Here in Tucson, we get 284 days of sunshine every year. Yes, it's hot much of the year, but it's a dry heat. As for your tips, I actually did this. I was tired of scores in the mid-nineties, so one day, when I had the course almost to myself, I tried this approach, hitting nothing longer than a six iron. I shot 81. Playing with others though, I still pull my driver on par 4's and 5's, and my woods on long approaches and layups. Yes, it's ego. But at 75 years old, it's been embarrassing enough moving up to the gold tees.
We just been for a golf trip in Arizona and wow what a gems of courses. Quarry Pines absolutely insanely beautiful. Vid just came out of that one. 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Sean, if you're paying I'll come out there! Only kidding. If I had the choice I would retire to the east and not the west. Yes, you can get round with a 6 iron. Hit fairways and that really helps you enjoy the round. We don't have forward tees here, the choice is competition, mens and ladies.
Glad you didn't quit!
There are times when it gets a bit much!
This is so true. Especially the bottom line very well sumarizes it best: Play always to your strenghts ("boring" golf usually is the best golf I may add)
I'd love to play boring golf right now. I would give anything for my usual fade with the driver.
Just found your videos, great advice for a high handicapper like myself, always thinking that I’m going to master my driver on the next tee when I haven’t hit a good one all day! Have to start trusting the clubs that have been working the best for me!
Hello Cedar. What I always find amusing is when the club has a 3 clubs and a putter competition it doesn't seem to hurt our score much. In fact many do better. Having a hybrid or 5 wood for a tee shot that doesn't get into trouble...........But we all bang away with our driver.
Keep plodding on Simon we love whatever you put out buddy, dry weathers coming mate
It looks like sun finally Arthur. The green keepers have been working like crazy the last week.
Loved this mate! - Swansea
Cool. That's an old video. Thanks for finding it.
Simon one of your strengths is course management - this video is excellent. Golf is about minimising errors. The 12th at Lilley Brook is a good example of ensuring good course management. I’m not long enough to get past the dogleg so I hit 7 wood, 7 iron SW and can find the green. I play the hole as a par 6 so anything less is a bonus. I used Arccos too which I’d highly recommend
You learn course management the hard way David or just keep losing balls. I learnt it after my first trip to Thailand with all that sand and water.
The 12th is a hole you can't bully and you must not let it bully you. I just found it unfair, you hit your tee shot and it rolls further away from the green rather than getting closer. What do you think of the new 13th tee they are going to build? I think it's a bit silly myself to make yet another hard hole.
They haven’t put the new tee in yet (I’m guessing it won’t be until next year). I suppose it is what it is.
Great explanation for high handicappers. It applies up to my game all the time. Sometimes though... one feels that you need to be as far as possible from the get go as the nex shot can be a duff blade or totally missed shot. Awesome 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
The great thing is this applies to me too. If there is a hole I struggle with why don't I hit a 5 iron off the tee? Ego.
Hi Simon, totally agree with you and have played my best golf taking this approach.
I find that the wa tea shot usually comes from hitting one of the two approach shots fat and adding a stroke, or when you do get there in 3, 3 putting!
Hello Andrew, I should lsiten to myself. Yesterday was a disaster. Aided and abetted by the greens being rock hard. When my 5 iron on the 1st charged off the back I knew I was in trouble. That's golf and part of it is getting used to the changing conditions. 11 weeks of rain and now we want the sprinklers switched on!
We feel your frustrations Simon. In York where we film it always wet. Flood area. It’s the 20th May today and it’s only just starting to dry out. We’ve managed about 2 videos in the first 5 months of the year. It’s hard work and depressing. But don’t give up. Even one video a month from you would help others. I know that’s not going to be financially rewarding for you. But helping others is also rewarding in its own way.
Hi guys. It's the same all over. At least this last week has been dry and the green keepers have been busy. I don't know about you but our rough has been real thick. I'd like to get to normal very soon. It might even improve our golf is we can get out and play it! Cheers
12 days of rain😯 Time to tell the wife that your gonna have to install a golf simulator in the house. Probably the most simple but one of the most effective tip that you could give us high handicappers to improve our scores, thanks Simon!
I need a room with a high ceiling Mark. I do know of a good simulator for sale. GC Quad, projector, computer, screen. A full proper Golf Pro studio. £35,000 second hand!
Not sure your Adsense earnings can afford that just yet buddy. 😂
@@bikemadcarl You might have a point there!
I had Optishop installed in my house during Covid. Really good fun playing tournaments and golf courses around the world
The catalyst for me breaking 100 and eventually 90 was watching and following the advice of golf sidekick and will robbins. I wanted to hit it further and straighter but what I really needed to do was keep it in play and learn how to get the ball in the hole better!
I don't know Will but Golf Sidekick is the man.
Will Robbins is one of those people you could easily dislike but he tells it as it is and it's only the ego that doesn't like that! 🤣
Saying that I've just come off the course shooting a 96 and it was my driving that really let me down. Hit 3 or 4 bad tee shots and took some big numbers from them 🤦♂️
@@robertcourt8593 I had some big numbers today. My rule is if it's one round then golf is like that. Forget and try again tomorrow. I don't mind people telling it like it is, a bit of blunt straight to the point doesn't hurt.
I hit driver almost every tee box. On the sim the other day over 9 holes i hit 80% fairways but only 20% of greens. But i do agree geting off the tee in good shape is step one to a good score so if driver doesnt work for leave it in the bag. For my scores to drop i need to hit more greens and i need my chipping to improve to a point i can get the ball up amd down most times. I honestly cant tell you how often im laying 1 in the middle of the fairway, then miss the green, chip, 2 putt and take a bogey or worst.
I know a lot of guys who lots of fairways with driver. I usually do but I don't swing 100%. But I do play with youngguys who try to smash driver everywhere and I can beat them with a hybrid and 6 iron. Practice your chipping then it doesn't matter if you miss a green. You will probablt hit more greens as you're under less pressure too.
Hi Simon, great advice as always and the location looks stunning with all the fresh green leaves and grass. When I was playing I only broke 100 twice for 18 holes, but I still enjoyed it. Had a few lessons practiced quite a bit. Worth a video to help someone like me or is that beyond help. Ron
Ron, I think now you could shoot better than your age. I do know someone who did that. Fine fellow. A bit eccentric, used to ski to work in the winter.
@@thehairygolfer Hi Simon, I've just caught up with the end of your film. I know how you feel about packing it all in, but I think after a while you would come to regret it, and we would miss those well informed golfing tips, and walks on beautiful fairways. KEEP SWINGING. Ron
@@ParkinsonsWalks Just not in a great mentally at the moment Ron. But it's looking up now the weather has changed. I hope you have been out walking for us Ron. Last summer at Tenby I thought I really ought to get some footage for you of that wonderful viaduct. I could put it in a dropbox for you to download at your leisure. Anyway. we are off to Lyme Regis this year, is there anything you would like put on film? I haven't done any research but there must be some old defunct branch lines in the area for me to video for you.
@@thehairygolfer Hi Simon, hang in there old friend, ups and downs are part of the journey we are on, it usually comes right in the end.
We love Lyme Regis and sometimes just pop down for the day. I think the railway stopped quite a way out of town and I bet it has all been built over by now.
Don't forget the bucket and spade. Ron
@@ParkinsonsWalks My Wife wants to find fossils on the beach. I said just go look in a mirror. I want to get a pile of fools gold to go on the layout. Plus a trip to Pecorama. We have a cottage on a farm for us and the dogs, no doubt we will come back smelling like a cow shed. Nothing new for me.....
Try to get up West Monmouthshire in June, I’m up there 4-5 times a week so I’m sure I’ll see you there!
I'm coming up tomorrow Max. Going to get on the practice ground, have a spot of lunch and go out after 1pm.
@@thehairygolfer ah brilliant! I’m playing up there tomorrow as well! I might end up seeing you!
@@thehairygolfer are you filming a video up there
@@maxdanteleyshon Hi Max, I will be filming. Not sure what yet. I'll think of a theme. Sometimes I have to play a few to see how I'm playing before an idea occurs to me. I'll be in the bar for lunch anyway. See you there.
Keep it up Simon
It's difficult at my age..........
Hi Simon, Heres to the 10 who decide to change their ways and improve their scores🍺🍺. Peeing in a dry suit ... hahaha. Heres hoping for some dry weather for you. Have a great weekend
I should listen to myself some time David!
Some of us hi handy cappers don't take the game that seriously we just enjoy being out with our friends for a round and hitting bombs off the tee for the fun of it, no greater feeling in golf, try it.😊
I did try bombing it off the tee for years. It held me back. It wasn't until I started concentrating on hitting it straight did my scores fall and my handicap. That was and still is fun for me. I'll take 69 over 99 every day of the week. But we are all different I agree.
I think it's all about your personal philosophy on golf. Do you want to absolutely get your best possible score no matter what or do you want to have maximum fun while on the course? The thrill of hitting one good driver makes up for 3 or 4 missed ones. If you settle for playing to your ability, you'll be happy with that and my view is you won't have much incentive to try and improve.
Is golf a sport or a past time? With the introduction of handicap indexes up to 56 which will grant you as many as 62 shots on some courses then for some people it is not a sport.
My maximum fun is hitting what I aim at and shooting a low score. One good driver does not make up for 3 or 4 lost balls. Not a chance. 25% success rate would get you fired at work. I will never settle for poor golf, I put in the time to keep my handicap low. Most golfers put in no time at all and wonder why they are still a 20 handicap after playing for 30 years. I could not settle for for shooting 82 when I know with work and keeping sharp I can shoot 72 and sometimes break it.
I think that this is an excellent strategy, and not just for the lucky so-and-so's who are blessed with two shots a hole! As I've got older, and my drives are shorter and not as straight as they once were,, this sort of strategy makes far more sense for me too, especially as I now have more holes where I get a shot. It's just remembering to do it in a competition!!!
Think of a 3 clubs and a putter competition. That doesn't seem to hurt us that much and people shoot well under par. Play holes backwards. If you think you want a wedge into a long par 4 it's easy to figure out what your tee shot and second shot should be. Makes the odds so much better in our favour.
@@thehairygolfer that's a very interesting thought. 3 clubs and a putter, eh! Right, I'm out on Monday so we'll see what happens!
@@nevillehubbard7347 I usually choose hybrid, an iron that will do most of the par 3's and a wedge of some sort.
@@thehairygolfer yes! It's 4 hybrid, 7 iron and sand wedge usually for me!
@@nevillehubbard7347 So you expect to go in bumkers???? LOL
the one thing never mentioned in these type of videos is the fact that your average high handicapper can and does regulary duff, slice, hook many shots in a round sometimes in a row, so although you make it all sound easy and i get what you are trying to put accross it is in fact a lot harder than you make it look. your strike and control is a leaps and bounds better than a 20+ handicap.
It's a very hard thing to try and portray. I just happen to be playing a lot of golf at the moment with people with in excess of 28 shots. Some of them can out drive me by 40 yards. But much of what they do is sideways. I'm trying very hard to show them a different way of playing where they might just be able to keep the ball on the planet.
yeah, great video but it is the duffs, putts and around the green that makes a high handi-capper a high handicapper!
You have a point about the fluffers and the duffers but most of those shots come because they're trying to do something they're not capable of.
High handicap golf is easy but you have to accept its a completely different game to low handicap\pro golf.
@@robertcourt8593 I found golf very easy when I was off 16. I just knew that on my good days I had too many shots. Now I could use a few more in competitions!
@thehairygolfer I'm at the point now where I can plod it round and shoot low 90s without too much trouble but if I want to get better I need to hit driver (I'm not long enough to reach if I take a fairway off every tee) when I drive it well I can break 90, when I don't.. I'm high 90s+
great videos - love the shirt (couldn't read the first part of the name on it?).
The name doesn't stand out well on that shirt! Nothing would. It's Red Mountain on Phuket. I do love a loud shirt. Cheers
Do not despair Simon , your videos are invaluable and comforting , must be hard with this shite weather , roll on Thailand if global warming doesn't kick in soon
It's started to dry out Berry. The green keepers have been able to finally get out and it looks a lot better since I made this video. Some courses have extended winter rules until the end of May. I have never heard of that before in over 30 years of playing.
@@thehairygolfer Bearing in mind the awful weather that has kept you off the course or curtailed , you getting on it , what are your goals for this year ?
@@Berry-fr5wj My goals for this year. Nothing much. Try and maintain a 5 handicap, I think it will go in the short term and then come back later in the year. Win the singles knockout for the 7th time at Gloucester. But I have to give 25 shots in the first round and I'm a long way to playing to my handicap off the whites. See the kids get better. Enjoy making videos.
@@thehairygolfer "Win the singles knockout for the 7th time at Gloucester."
Could of said before, I would have lumped on large with a bet
@@thehairygolfer Yes , set the kids up for golf , they will enjoy the game
It’s definitely ego,but follow these course management thoughts and your handicap will come tumbling down. I’ve been playing nearly 50 years off & on,the intelligent player nearly always beats the player who blasts away & brings hazards into play. Good video,concentrate on doing this for the whole round and golf becomes much more enjoyable
Trying to knock the cover off the ball like the Pros on TV seems to be the ambition. Losing balls is the reality. It's surprising how well you can do from the fairway by just hitting a hybrid. I wish people would try it, just once, if you have a load of shots you will surprise yourself by going round with the same ball.
I hope I can listen to myself in a weeks time. Got a singles knockout match and I'm giving 25 shots thanks to the WHS. I can only hope his handicap is real.
@@thehairygolfer good luck,a few years back I played with a 28 HC in a stableford competition,he came in with 49 points! And the reverse side of the coin,on a society day I marked the card of 36 handicap player,I’ve never in all my years marked a card with zero points ! Couldn’t even blame injury on himself,last two holes I didn’t know if I wanted him to score or not for prosperity’s sake lol
@@simonwallis84 Simon, I'm well used to seeing thiose scores come in these days and it's got worse with the WHS where you can put in lots of fake general play cards. When you see winter league rounds won with in excess of 50 points every week what is the point of entering? I know many a short handicap player who has quit competative golf.
I played with a guy 2 years ago. Nearly 6 hours. He shot 71 over par on a par 69 course. That isn't golf. What's the point of that?
@@thehairygolfer I know it’s a way of getting more involved in playing golf allowing 36 hc for men,but that gets thrown out the window if there’s some that manipulate their hc to score in competitions. When I was a junior back in the early seventies,the highest hc allowed at my club was 24,it certainly made you practice a lot when you started. Somewhere along the way a lot of golfers have forgotten that the enjoyment of the game is to challenge yourself to get better and not cheat the game playing off a false hc. We can all play the round of our life but not half a dozen times in a year?!!
I play our 2 longest holes exactly the same way if I'm trying to make a score. 430yds, hybrid off the tee, 7 then 9 iron to the green.
I've made so many triples by driving into the trees then flying a 6 iron into a deep bunker.
Whenever I get a recurring bad hole I do something different for a couple of weeks so I can flush the bad memories.
Good video, I think any handicap golfer can take something away. Played Gloucester B team today at the Forest, they played well to get they draw. I was amazed how much our course has dried up since Friday 12th May. Hope you've managed to get out since you recorded this video. I look forward to watching your next away game. Is it somewhere in Gloucestershire or are you travelling a little further?
A good bunch of lads at Gloucester. Clay seems to dry quite quick given a bit of sun and wind. I've played a bit but not as much as I would like. I shall be in Herefordshire when I play away plus trips to West Mon.
@@thehairygolfer Have you ever considered sponsoring a tee box for 12 months? The forest of Dean has just advertised it for £100. Get the hairygolfer logo at the tee and the the TVs in the club house for 12 months. All the visitors and members will see it.
I focus my mind that every hole is a bogey. Yesterday had 2 birdies and 6 pars. Not bad for a 71 year old with good course management
I played a round with 7iron Pw Lw and a putter and shot 82 on a 6500yd course. Not just 25yr olds. Older beginners are the same. I also tell them play for bogey and they will be surprised how many par putts they will have
It's surprising how well you do when you hit every fairway with an iron. It really does show that fairway beats a long way in the trees. I played with a couple of guys recently who were 24 and 33 handicap. Driver every hole. It was a better ball competition off 85% and they scored 27 points between them. They opened with a par for 4 points too. But they had a number of holes which they both blobbed on. How can you have all those shots and holes you get 2 shots on and score nothing? Driver is the answer. Cheers
@@thehairygolfer ego game strikes again ha ha ha. When I was a 22 I entered tournament left all woods at home tee off with a 5iron shot 86 came in 2nd. I knew my weekness😂
@@brianmurray4199 Every thursday night is club night. 9 hole competition off yellows and we had a 3 clubs and a putter night. A 3 handicap getting 2 shots on the night came in with 24 points. We took the piss relentlessly because he had been struggling with a whole bag full! Staying out of trouble makes this game so easy.
I'm always thinking par 3s two shots on the greenpar 4 3 shots to the green par 5 4 shots onto the green, I only use 5 iron above
Perfect. When I play with my boys I say to them this is a par 6 for you and a par 4 for me. Can you think of a way of making a safe 5 for nett birdie. Then you can add a hybrid and slowly fill teh bag up. I played 2 years with irons and learnt my trade. A bit extreme but I feel it was better to not lose balls. Losing balls crushes interest in the game. Best of luck.
The only time I’d use the handicap system would be in a tournament. When I’m playing for myself I just play to get the best score I can and at the end of the round that’s my score. No sense in fooling myself into saying I just shot a 78 when in fact it was a 98…..
I try to pay no attention to scores off the yellows mid week. The real deal is off the whites with a card in your hand. Mid week for me is practice time and making videos while I practice on the course. But I do push myself all the same.
@@thehairygolfer , I figure I’ve earned the right to tee off from the seniors tee box….😂😂
@@TWTexasA1 We don't have those over here. You've got competition, mens tees of the day and ladies. When you get to be senior the only thing that happens is your handicap slowly goes up. I think we have got it wrong.
Yellow tee?!😮😮😮
This is Gloucester Golf Club. You are only permitted to play the White tees in a competition. So yes. Yellow tee. They wouldn't let me record from the white tees so you never got to see this course full length. Cheers
My goal this year is to break 80. I'm sure you've done vids on this before. It's not improving my technique, it is what it is. It's about my course management and being switched on all through the round. Thanks 😁
11 weeks of rain? I've been hearing about hosepipe bans. This global warming Is rubbish 🗑
Hello Alan, I think breaking 80 is more about attitude than physical. Keeping the ball on the planet by making better decisions, tidying up with the short game. There are videos coming where I look at lower handicaps. I'm working my way down.
It really hasn't stopped raining round here. The rough has been knee deep in places. Winter rules have been extended to the end of May which has never happened before. Green keepers can't get equipment on the courses as they are too soft.
I remember about 16 years back a bit on the BBC news saying we are going to have long dry summers like Spain. Makes me laugh at all the b/s they spout.
But we all love to smash that driver . I have a hated whole at ours . Hybrid every time now
I hit hybrid on 14 all the time. Driver just not worth it.
You're a Bandit 😂
If only!