Destiny 2 Lore - Why the HORSE!? Bungie 30th Anniversary | Myelin Games

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  • @HammerdWalrus
    @HammerdWalrus 3 года назад +216

    Juan the SpaceHonse is the greatest intergalactic game show host in Eternity.

    • @darkcheshireking
      @darkcheshireking 3 года назад

      🤣

    • @antoniobennett3588
      @antoniobennett3588 2 года назад +1

      This couldn't have been worded better 😂😂

    • @otaku_mclovin4209
      @otaku_mclovin4209 2 года назад +2

      I feel like celestial Bob barker could give Juan a run for his money.
      "Cooooooome oooooooonnnnn doooooowwwwwn"!

    • @Silencersix
      @Silencersix 2 года назад +4

      “I’m the Guardian and this is my favorite host in the Paraverse.”

    • @Palidor19
      @Palidor19 2 года назад

      I prefer Alex Xurbek!!

  • @seanthatsit1089
    @seanthatsit1089 3 года назад +158

    “The Horse wants us to play the game” is quite possibly the craziest sentence I’ve ever heard

    • @johngancarcik5682
      @johngancarcik5682 2 года назад +8

      As if the nine aren't crazy as it is

    • @webchigo
      @webchigo 2 года назад +8

      Don't forget we have no choice in the matter, start to finish it is emphasized.

  • @edwardhaenftling8067
    @edwardhaenftling8067 2 года назад +62

    The horse has shown up before, in the Invitation of the Nine quest. I think it was in the cut scene the first time the Drifter saw the huge Emissary in the final chest room for the Prophecy dungeon (and the flawless room for Trials of the Nine). The Drifter looks around and sees the horse and says, "A horse."

  • @Ironytheloreaxe
    @Ironytheloreaxe 3 года назад +113

    I actually researched it a while back. Since it had shown as a constellation. The Dark Horse is part of the Ophiuchus (the Serpent Bearer) Constellation. Which if looking up. Would be on The or near the equator. Equator(Balance) > Serpent Bearer(Drifter) > Dark Horse(Paracausal)

    • @nucklehead718
      @nucklehead718 2 года назад +5

      The horse is most likely Svađilfari. Bungie writers pull from Norse mythology a lot.

    • @antlerr
      @antlerr 2 года назад +1

      @@nucklehead718 wheres its other four legs then bubba? norse myth you refer to is odins horse and was the child of loki and a horse bigger then are earth and 8 legs now paraversal horse aint got that nice try at a guess but thats all you did tell me being im related to the norse, exactly what has you think bungie ever has added norse stories into them? surely never have you played any of the halo series for theres nothing in that being norse, and lets face it bungie is only known for 2 things master cheif and destiny....

    • @disguiseddata1581
      @disguiseddata1581 2 года назад +1

      @@antlerr a cursory glance at Google would suggest the horse he refers to in not Odin's horse birthed by Loki, but actually the stallion that fathered aforementioned horse

  • @Real28
    @Real28 3 года назад +100

    This is fantastic. This makes a lot of sense. You're right, this thing has broken the 4th wall and been so on the nose with it's cheekiness, this feels absolutely right.

    • @CalixtoErico
      @CalixtoErico 2 года назад +1

      I love this theory.

    • @nucklehead718
      @nucklehead718 2 года назад

      I don't. Bungie pulls from Norse mythology a lot. The horse is most likely Svađilfari. Theres many other key/important instances of Norse mythology. I'd provide more if interested.

    • @lazyvoid7107
      @lazyvoid7107 2 года назад

      @@nucklehead718 Okay and? Black ops 4, God Of War do norse dude

  • @tapewormrage
    @tapewormrage 3 года назад +58

    The horse is Emperor Calus. He just wanted his menagerie back and was desperate for entertainment.

  • @leftwardglobe1643
    @leftwardglobe1643 2 года назад +63

    They've been hinting at their games sharing continuity with one another since all the way back in Marathon. Which is almost certainly implied to be a sequel to, or at least an alternate universe of Pathways Into Darkness, which is the game that established concepts like the Darkness and its themes and powers, right down to the pyramid symbology. We also have other confirmation that the various universes are interwoven thanks to the MIDA Multitool.
    I've been preaching it for years, and it looks like bungie finally decided to confirm it to an extent. Our characters are alternate incarnations in a massive cycle/multiverse structure. We are the Master Chief, the Security Officer, the Guardian. We are the Eternal Champion we see mentioned in Marathon's terminals. The one called Roland, Beowulf, Gilgamesh, who's "been given a thousand names, and will be called by a thousand more before the stars go dim and cold. I am a hero."
    We also see continuity in other characters. Durandal, Cortana and Rasputin. The Sleeping God, Wrcncacknter, Flood, and Darkness. The Jjaro, Forerunners, and the Light. Etc.
    You can go for many explanations of why that is aside from the obvious meta reason, but I've always believed that's because the universes are iterative. A continuous cycle. We see that at the end of Marathon Infinity. Durandal's goal was to survive the collapse of the universe, and at the end of it he saw what we were. The axiom we had become. We are Destiny. An inevitability. A forgone conclusion.
    Basically, there are three, or I suppose now four primal beings that survive each iteration. The Light, the force of good that tries to shepherd and shape reality. The Darkness which tries to cull the weak and prepare for a new cycle, the Eternal champion, who may either be a human caught in the struggle and fights for the wellbeing of mankind (alternatively a balancing force designed to keep the powers in check). And now we have the cosmic horse. Who seems to be the Watcher. The one orchestrating the carnage for their own enjoyment.

    • @Votive
      @Votive 2 года назад +11

      ok finally a good comment.
      to add to this savathun has mentioned a few times basically suggesting we are different to all others in the destiny universe, she is some what self aware of her predicament and that we are not of her world.
      maybe the point of the darkness is to attempt to find a being capable enough of escaping and actually making it to our reality (doubt?)
      originally the final shape was the vex and likely still is in some way but they were mechanical and binary and real, but once the game between the gardener and the winnower began their realm joined the paraverse and the actual game itself started and thats when the destiny universe was conceived
      what if now that these gods have access to paracausality they could breach it and join us, maybe thats savathuns ultimate goal, she will join us but only to learn our secrets and similarly to the theory of her merging her ascendant realm and the destiny reality she could potentially merge our world and theirs...
      its also very interesting because clearly the 9 and the drifter will have huge parts to play in the upcoming events so if the 9 and the horse and eternity (where reckoning and the prophecy dungeon occur) are all between the bounds of the paraverse and are even beyond the ascendant planes and ley lines and the horse really is an allegory for bungie then does that mean the drifter like savathun may also know about our world???? is this the plan of the dark vanguard all along, eris and elsie are the two main proponents who forced us to do everything we have done up until now, they have both bended reality and forced us to kill gods, the drifter has brought us beyond the universe and all three want us to bear dark powers, what if its all a crazy elaborate plan for these characters to escape and like every lore tab ever we are just again puppets in someone elses design.
      also in each shared universe the sol system exists giving rise to the idea that the nine (being metaphors for the sun and the 8 planets) are also a part of each game aswell as the light, dark, bungie/horse and ourselves.
      perhaps the dark vanguard arent aware of whats going on but drifter may atleast have some ideas and savathun definitely does, but there is still the ol' dark future timeline lore book, also funnily enough the entire point of that is that our current destiny universe is stuck in an infinite loop due to elsie and the traveller so again what youre saying totally lines up with all this shit too :)

    • @chrisreilly1290
      @chrisreilly1290 2 года назад +6

      Love the comments from the two of you! Glad I'm not the only one who remembers games before halo. Wish I could've played them when they were new though

    • @silverthehero1295
      @silverthehero1295 2 года назад +8

      Given those parallels, could Cayde-6 be Destiny’s Sgt. Johnson? Snarky, powerful, beloved by the community, good or even best friend to the player character, and killed in a tragic and heroic manner.

    • @Logrunner1
      @Logrunner1 2 года назад +4

      I think I wanna play Bungies other games now cuz of your comment. But then again, if their games all share the same overarching idea, I’m most excited to see where it could go in Destiny, since it’s a live service game with good future potential.
      I often make comparisons to my own life; and the bigger, larger war-scaled conflicts that occur in Destiny. The Light, the Dark. We’ve come so far as Guardians. We wield both, without fully understanding either. Trying to balance what we should do, and what we want to do is a struggle that I certainly deal with daily

    • @Votive
      @Votive 2 года назад +4

      If our universe is indeed deterministic or atleast theres a convergence of totalic ideas then it could mean that these are universal truths to life.
      its like how most religions have an insane amount of meaning that can be derived from them even if theyre all nonsense, especially seeing as if one is proven right then all the others must be disproven and yet a lot of them come to very similar conclusions... (also bungie bases a lot of the lore on spiritual and religious shenanigans)
      in a way you could say due to the variable of time we will always be heading in a certain direction with or without free will, maybe bungie were always mean to create these games or atleast someone, base them off of real religious and spiritual ideas and then accidentally predict the future? or ya know just write really meaningful games that extend to life aswell...
      but what would be heckin funny is if they accidentally got it right that the ascendant plane existed and we accidentally willed a bridge between the paraverse into existence or atleast just willed our dreams and nightmares into existence in the form of people like savathun (i really want savathun to come hang)

  • @CringeGamingOG
    @CringeGamingOG 3 года назад +46

    During the new exotic quest for the halo magnum, you travel to a cave with the remnants of the gun in it. The gun is inside a Stasis Chamber that looks just like master chiefs in halo 4. The guns lore tab references master chief in the line “a gun like this could make someone a hero.”

    • @LegendaryFenrir
      @LegendaryFenrir 2 года назад +10

      Banshee even refers to it "kicking like a warthog" when you take it to him

    • @CerberusPlusOne
      @CerberusPlusOne 2 года назад

      Yes, we all did the quest too.

    • @CringeGamingOG
      @CringeGamingOG 2 года назад

      @@CerberusPlusOne ok Kyle. 😀

  • @josiahbrosius3933
    @josiahbrosius3933 3 года назад +10

    Myelin having the Juan picture pulled up on his monitor during this is wonderful

  • @codyhouse6436
    @codyhouse6436 3 года назад +28

    The Heavenly Waters constellation family. Consisting of 9 groups of stars. Delphinus, Eridanus, Piscis Austrinus, Carina, Puppis, Vela, Pyxis, Columba AND Equuleus.
    Equuleus Its name is Latin for "little horse"

    • @MyelinGames
      @MyelinGames  3 года назад +9

      Yeah ya, the star constellation theory has been around since trials of the nine. Which I would assume would just mean starhorse is one of the nine.

    • @codyhouse6436
      @codyhouse6436 2 года назад +1

      @@MyelinGames What I found most interesting is this specific constellation group is directly referring to the "Waters of the Abyss" controled by Enki (Sumerian: 𒀭𒂗𒆠) is the Sumerian god of water, knowledge (gestú), mischief, crafts (gašam), and creation (nudimmud), and one of the Anunnaki.

  • @_ExTitus
    @_ExTitus 3 года назад +6

    Horse is my favorite gameshow host

  • @frog2046
    @frog2046 3 года назад +9

    There is also what we can assume is a halo Easter egg in destiny 2.
    In the exodus crash strike or on patrol in the boss room, there is a scannable Cryo pod referencing a warry warrior who saved the world many times.
    And the ghost suggest we leave him to rest

    • @zombieslaya3456
      @zombieslaya3456 3 года назад +4

      That's in d1. It's in the campaign mission where you get one of caydes stashes I think.

    • @frog2046
      @frog2046 3 года назад +1

      @@zombieslaya3456 maybe they re used the line? I very specifically remember going there myself to check and going " awesome "
      But it was definitely in the exodus crash.

    • @johngancarcik5682
      @johngancarcik5682 2 года назад +2

      @@zombieslaya3456 it's where you fight that echo of Oryx to get the stealth drive I remember that one

  • @Sky_Ler2000
    @Sky_Ler2000 3 года назад +19

    You can just feel the love that went into this and I vibe with that. Also the dungeon music is such a banger!!!

  • @DeusExAngelo
    @DeusExAngelo 2 года назад +3

    Part of me thinks the Space Horse and Xûr are just tongue-and-cheek, having fun with the playerbase.
    But at the same-time, there are many subtle hints from the past that nod past the 4th wall…or lead to even larger narrative consequences. Especially when it comes to stuff with The Nine.
    Heck, it could be both.

  • @Rhodare
    @Rhodare 2 года назад +12

    “The SpaceHorse encompasses all timelines”
    Damn do I love the current bungie writing team lol

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ 2 года назад +14

    A friend said that Xur's presentation of his event was too silly.
    But I reckoned that since The Nine have strong knowledge about humans that they may have even encouraged Xur to do this game show shtick to amuse and attract us to participate.
    And since all game show hosts need an assistant and since they know we tend to love animals, they chose the member of The Nine who is in animal form to help (and maybe secretly supervise) Xur.
    But I love your Bungie theory and I think it's a lot more clever than mine.

    • @shinmentakezo2994
      @shinmentakezo2994 2 года назад +1

      I agree with your friend I like the activity but I also think it's silly and stupid, the arenas were in my opinion the best activities included next to the menagerie.

    • @IveBeenWithBruma
      @IveBeenWithBruma 2 года назад +4

      The thing about this is the fact the Nine have never shown power to the same degree as the space horse. It is able to not only control hive but also rip vex from the black forest and control them as well. This is huge as it is clearly above the traveller and the darkness in power but also even the vex are powerless against it.

    • @goldfishninja1
      @goldfishninja1 2 года назад

      Xurs words and actions are canonically controlled by The Nine anyway so he wouldn't even need to be convinced. He would just do as they desire. Also, that's why I'm still in the camp of the Horse being an aspect of perhaps one of the Nine in some way. Because he is in control, for one, but also we only EVER have seen the horse in spaces controlled by the Nine. The Emissary/chest room and Eternity. The Horse being one of the Nine, at least in my opinion, expands on the potential of the Nine. Remember the Emissary was trying to explain to the voice of the Nine that "he can leave this game" and they didn't understand. Now they return with not just their own game, but a paraversal one. That isnt quite in the universe. They have the power to traverse now, or maybe are still trying to escape the whole game.

  • @ragingelection8411
    @ragingelection8411 3 года назад +22

    Xur also has a new line where he asks something like “but are you willing to kill a planet?”

    • @Votive
      @Votive 2 года назад +2

      thats becuz the nine represent the sun and the planets

    • @mendoncabeast1
      @mendoncabeast1 2 года назад +5

      My favorite line is don't forget to spay or neutere your pet 🤣

    • @GrayvesX
      @GrayvesX 2 года назад +2

      @mendoncabeast he doesn't say pet he says ghost which is hilarious

    • @mendoncabeast1
      @mendoncabeast1 2 года назад +1

      @@GrayvesX true true 🤣🤣🤣 I was still laughing at it

    • @Circadian_Wolf
      @Circadian_Wolf 2 года назад +2

      That’s an old line, has been in the game since D2 vanilla

  • @ontos8914
    @ontos8914 2 года назад +3

    Spacehorse is either the cpaital G God of the Bungie paraverse and its doing that thing of taking a physical form to see its creations up close or its just a random 4th dimensional being

  • @Swaggmire215
    @Swaggmire215 3 года назад +4

    Star horse stole the show. Space unicorn🤣🤣. My god this is amazing

  • @Eldrisaur
    @Eldrisaur 2 года назад +2

    The point he made about The Horse (Bungie) forcing Xur (the devs) against their will seems like foreshadowing considering his later video about his and other people’s experiences at Bungie

  • @Hrdrockr
    @Hrdrockr 3 года назад +8

    But the Horse was present in the last cutscene of the season of the drifter. So I’m not sure

  • @fishnutz5196
    @fishnutz5196 3 года назад +16

    My question, if it was a symbol of Bungie why would the Drifter see it back in Season of the Drifter?

    • @PhantorumPrime117
      @PhantorumPrime117 2 года назад +2

      Wouldn’t be the first time Bungie teased a future project

  • @DamagdHart64
    @DamagdHart64 3 года назад +11

    Seeing the horse keeps reminding me of White Ichigos speech about instinct. The difference between a king and his horse. If there is a horse, a space horse at that, who is the rider?

  • @edragyz8596
    @edragyz8596 2 года назад +1

    There is a lore page for receiving the Forerunner/catalyst that says the Dares and the opportunity they occupy are only possible due to the alignment that is about to happen for the exorcism, and that Xur (and maybe the StarHorse) will lose their memory of the event alltogether.
    He's been in the game for 4 years, you can't just change his name to Juan now.

  • @thermalrain_yt9725
    @thermalrain_yt9725 2 года назад +1

    Yeah bungie is the work horse that allows us to play and have fun with all these games

  • @Ex-D-
    @Ex-D- 2 года назад +5

    I assumed that the horse was a messenger of the nine. A physical being that can interact with the world around it that the nine put in charge of Xur. I also guessed that the nine designed this to attract guardians to test and observe them. If the light is still the path to becoming untethered from causal life then what better way to learn about it in you’re own pocket dimension and pit the guardians against some of the most dangerous foes they have faced.

  • @indyman000
    @indyman000 2 года назад +2

    perhaps the horse is a vehicle of the nine, and the horse seems to like games; a common hobby of the nine, remember the last time we saw the horse it was followed by the emissary telling the drifter "you're already doing it, keep playing the game"

  • @Mate397
    @Mate397 2 года назад +1

    Xür:
    "Look at my horse. My horse is amazing. Give it a lick."

  • @bobisconsumed520
    @bobisconsumed520 3 года назад +4

    Season of Lost is gonna end with Savathun escaping and Masterchief landing on the Tower, riding the Space Horse

  • @godfreyleitch9999
    @godfreyleitch9999 2 года назад +3

    Legend has it, the Horse is more powerful than Savathunn

  • @Nothings_Shore
    @Nothings_Shore 2 года назад +3

    I will say the same here as I did to Houndish, Bungie is possibly proposing that the timelines from other realities/universes/dimensions are converging in and onto one point where previously extinct universes a.k.a. “memories” which is integral to understanding a reference point made on europa by Eramis about the Darkness and the Deep. Which leads us back to Elsie Bray and her lore of her alternate timeline. The Vex may have realized it is better for their own end game plan to converge all possible outcomes into a singular point in which they can reach their goal. Keep in mind both the vex and hive exist on different dimensional planes of existence and Savathun having had access to the vex long before we encountered them(Quaria) may have something to do with the great secrets she learned previously written in the books of sorrows while the hive were on their genocidial war path to reach the final shape long before they reached earth. Ofc take it all with a grain of salt as this is mere speculation. Mida-multitool was our first foreshadowing of this and now we have weapons and armor from other previous realities(games/halo marathon etc.) yes this is a rather bold and long stretch but I believe it is key to be more open to the intrinsic nature that bungie prides themselves on completely getting us to be blindsided by the storyline inly for it to go in a direction most of us never expected it to branch out to. Just some food for thought ;)

    • @Votive
      @Votive 2 года назад +1

      oh i think this is absolutely the case
      since the gardener and the winnower started their new game theyve been at war using paracausal powers to one up each other, the vex being mechanical and inary cannot understand this or atleast not yet, the universe they were born in preceeded their universe joining the paraverse it seems, so the idea that the vex would want to converge all timelines accross all universes is likely their new directive since theyre supposed to replicate, expand and turn everything into vex then if they have the knowledge that other timelines, planes of existence and universes exist then they must expand their overrall plan to trying to encompass this knowledge...
      with that out of the way heres the real meat and potatoes, the reason the vex havent totally decimated us using time travel is because the vex know we are also apart of the paraverse and we hold ultimate power over them, if they destroy sol then the entire game ends and they cannot escape
      yes, escape. Savathun knows we are not of her realm and knows we are TRULY paracausal as she puts it (likely found this information out from the vex and quria like you mentioned!!!!), she also wants to escape, perhaps the new directive of the darkness is even to escape to consume all the realms in the paraverse and finally put a stop to their pointless and cyclical adventures with the light (light and dark pretty much coming up in all of their games).
      honestly not so sure that this is what the darkness wants as it is told to be more of a force of nature but from other lore it seemingly has its own will and an ultimate goal
      but nevertheless its almost abundantly clear from all the fourth wall breaking that savathun, the vex and possibly the drifter all know there is more than meets their eyes and something else is going on and its all linked to the sol system (aka the 9) and us the guardian...
      lmao i ended this without even saying one of the big things i wanted to, ok so your ideas of the memories and shit converging is very interesting and may totally be linked to the nightmares we saw on the moon as they were old timelines coming back to haunt us and now as time progresses and we move closer and closer to the endgame more paracausal shit keeps happening like halo guns (lol) buuuut this also links in to the theory that savathun will merge her throne world with mars or atleast reality (in destiny) so again this is one step away from savathun or the vex merging other universes or.... drum roll please... our world... bruh if we get invaded by the vex cuz bungo did some voodoo shit i aint even gon be mad tht shit would slap (just like their rifles ;))

    • @Nothings_Shore
      @Nothings_Shore 2 года назад

      @@Votive lol yeah it’s really starting to get more complex as the story progresses which allows the more subtle quiet truths from lore back during the red war we got is now actually starting to fill in the blanks. I’m just excited for where the narrative will take us in the future expansions.

  • @AdrianPlaysAMVs
    @AdrianPlaysAMVs 2 года назад +1

    Master Chief: I Need a Weapon.
    Also Master Chief: Receives Telesto

  • @kylilin
    @kylilin 3 года назад +5

    Spied your taskbar and saw it’s 25c and I’m jealous as hell. It’s 2c here and snowing.
    Great vid. And I love the space horse. I think it means more than we think for sure, it isn’t the first time we’ve seen it.

  • @TheLegoJungle
    @TheLegoJungle 2 года назад +12

    You can read that “Nine, or the impossible horse” line (which Myelin believes separates the horse and the Nine) in two ways:
    1) Nine, or conversely, the horse.
    2) Nine, or in other words, the horse.

  • @OmegaRidley91
    @OmegaRidley91 2 года назад +1

    bungie’s creativity when they really put their minds to it is second to none nearly

  • @kpop863
    @kpop863 2 года назад +1

    when you think about how large master chief was and the size of the sidearm. it makes you realize why the sidearm is so powerful against smaller beings.

  • @bowzercruz5279
    @bowzercruz5279 2 года назад +2

    bungie has a lightning bolt in their logo which we can can call charger, which is a horse. so the horse is a space charger which is or represents bungie. and the fact that the horse is an overseer of all timelines

  • @branthro6492
    @branthro6492 2 года назад +1

    I'd be more inclined to link it to the Nine due to the horse's appearance in Drifter's vision back in Season of the Drifter. Maybe it is Bungie in a way, but it's absolutely more than just that

  • @magnusthered9635
    @magnusthered9635 2 года назад +2

    Imagine if they had enemies from other Bungie games in DOE, like the Pfhor, or S’pht.

  • @danny234555
    @danny234555 2 года назад +4

    I always thought Calus and his opulent riches were a metaphor for Activision and the money that they brought to Bungie. This is only making me double down on this headcannon

  • @MrReaper2142
    @MrReaper2142 2 года назад +1

    confirmed Callus was transformed into a horse by the darkness, was captured by the nine and then created a game show like event for guardians like he did on the Leviathan

  • @nrdscott
    @nrdscott 3 года назад +9

    I think the MIDA weapons support the second definition of paraverse. That's what I understood from my playthrough yesterday.

  • @DarkPhoenix671
    @DarkPhoenix671 3 года назад +4

    I'd love to get a Spacehorse mount to run around the areas with

  • @atsukana1704
    @atsukana1704 2 года назад

    As I understand it, eternity is the link between the paraverses. It could even be said that a black hole lined up between them allowing the passage of this information and explaining why the dares would “end”. It is between realities because it is the link holding them together.

  • @CageyJ0nnY
    @CageyJ0nnY 2 года назад +1

    Its interesting. Someone on Reddit said it sounds like the horse is voiced by random bungie employee's. Maybe it actually is....

  • @slevingaius
    @slevingaius 2 года назад +2

    And whats strange is G-horn makes a return at the strangest of time... Is it foreshadowing of countless guardians that will fall? Similar to the events before taken king where many guardians fell on the moon?
    Its not connected because G-horn represented the events at Twilight gap but cant help but feel in Witch Queen alot more guardians new and old will die.

  • @SealFormulaMaster
    @SealFormulaMaster 2 года назад +1

    So there was a theory that in Season of Arrivals, Sloane used
    Mjolnir Power Assault Armor to fight against the Pyramids before Titan was destroyed. Now we got both the Magnum and Battle Rifle, and an empty cryopod. Do you think these things strengthen that theory? That possibly a Spartan was teleported to Destiny, made his or her way to Titan, was killed by during the Collapse and centuries later their armor was found and stolen by the Fallen?

  • @blackfire3744
    @blackfire3744 2 года назад +1

    Either way, the only thing I can think of when I see xur standing next to space horse is: "Look at my horse, my horse is amazing! Give it a lick, mmm it tastes like raisins!"

  • @billblackjrTube
    @billblackjrTube 2 года назад +1

    As I continue to play the game in this gameshow with Xur as the host, I'm reminded of "The Wheel of Fortune". I have a laugh as Xur asks us to come back soon and thanks for playing the game.

  • @ianrotten4453
    @ianrotten4453 2 года назад

    Who needs a lore book on this? It's pure wacky fun!

  • @OneEyedDrummerTDHE
    @OneEyedDrummerTDHE 2 года назад +2

    Xur; “You have questioned the eternal horse,
    It is extremely displeased..”
    Space Horse juan “eternally Displeased Neighs”

    • @PlebNC
      @PlebNC 2 года назад

      Bronies: I just wanted to know if it could sing Winter Wrap-Up.

  • @victim8u
    @victim8u 2 года назад +1

    Just throwing it out there, one of Jupiter's moons is callled "herse"

  • @BlitzAMV
    @BlitzAMV 2 года назад +1

    The fantastic horse declares the obstacle course "totally bonkers"

  • @wraithofkah5487
    @wraithofkah5487 3 года назад +5

    You're theory makes so much sense especially when thinking about the Expunge missions and how Savathun was taking directly to us the player.

  • @goldfishninja1
    @goldfishninja1 2 года назад

    Consider this. The Emissary tried to convince the nine that we (the Guardian or breaking the forth wall the Player) were special because we could leave this game. They didnt understand. Now the Nine return (clearly its them from the architecture and Xurs presence) and they have a Game of their own that crosses universes. So they can now, or maybe always could) escape the game as well. Or are still learning it to further escape. Remember, the whispering Ahamkara tried to convince us to release him/her as well, o player mine.

  • @hakansandberg4732
    @hakansandberg4732 2 года назад

    This is the best explanation I've heard. Perfect match for an anniversary.

  • @pieceofgosa
    @pieceofgosa 2 года назад +1

    The Marathon shotgun described by Xur as "paraversal jetsam" is canonically manufactured by Tex Mechanica. How the heck does that work ?

    • @jaythamalt
      @jaythamalt 2 года назад

      Maybe it just takes a new shape to better fit the universe it lands in. Could explain why the halo weapons don't look 1:1

  • @RagingCoolCat
    @RagingCoolCat 2 года назад

    ill never get over the ferret chillin on your lip lmao LIKE WHY DOES IT LOOK ALIVE?

  • @carpemkarzi
    @carpemkarzi 3 года назад +1

    Nice theory. Makes sense, well as much sense as possible.

  • @EstrelSidus
    @EstrelSidus 2 года назад

    One things is for sure and its that the Nine are actually very powerful. I think they are that Third being Savathun talked about and they just dont know it yet. The light and Dark are tied to the Universe whereas that Nine seem to be Multiversal.

    • @IveBeenWithBruma
      @IveBeenWithBruma 2 года назад

      Space horse has been shown to be far beyond multiversal. One it exists in countless timelines, 2. Reality means nothing to it and 3. Not even the vex from the Black Forest are safe. If I recall the Black Forest exist outside of space and time and star horse just casually rips vex out it including minds.

  • @anime0014
    @anime0014 3 года назад +2

    I like that last theory about xur. Oh and Jaun.

  • @dominicwalker9947
    @dominicwalker9947 2 года назад

    Well thought out. Thank you for taking the time.

  • @Birdman-hq4qo
    @Birdman-hq4qo 2 года назад +2

    I genuinely enjoy your break downs man. Personally, I feel that there have been so many 4th wall breaks with the 30th Anni content that nothing we’re experiencing is really canon. More of a jovial, fun to play activity that’s existing outside of Destiny Canon, thus making it “paraversal”

    • @Birdman-hq4qo
      @Birdman-hq4qo 2 года назад +2

      I mean, Xur quotes Bob Barker for christ sake lol

    • @johngancarcik5682
      @johngancarcik5682 2 года назад

      @@Birdman-hq4qo that line cracks me up

    • @johnny.darko69
      @johnny.darko69 2 года назад

      yea, but there is some canon precedence for it with the MIDA weapons

  • @sirwolfe710
    @sirwolfe710 2 года назад

    Woah woah woah I leave for a couple months and THAT stache appears? Amazing

  • @Adam2-13
    @Adam2-13 2 года назад

    In halo the Easter egg came for destiny and other games throughout the years were featured in destiny in some form so it would make sense they would create a multiverse

  • @shyataroo
    @shyataroo 2 года назад +1

    I think there is another origin to the horse, in one of your previous videos, you talk about how the nine were trying to come into our reality using a portal. I think the horse is the only successful result of that project.

  • @w3luvtaj
    @w3luvtaj 2 года назад

    Juan the space horse really makes you realize how insignificant the traveler is

  • @Raz0rL0u
    @Raz0rL0u 2 года назад

    My man. I knew I could count on you for this one.

  • @joemieden5561
    @joemieden5561 2 года назад +1

    Great video- I love the space horse. Makes it even better that it may represent Bungie. I like your theory!

  • @derpersona
    @derpersona 2 года назад

    People have been guessing that the Nine is Bungie forever, too. Like the Emissary saying "Keep playing the game" etc

  • @TreedanAnimation
    @TreedanAnimation 2 года назад

    Bill is a happy pupper in the background 🐶

  • @MrMightyZ
    @MrMightyZ 2 года назад

    I was wondering what was so familiar and it just hit me! You look like you've just walked out of a Victoria Bitter commercial circa 1982. Very cool. "...you can get it playing Destiny 2. 'Matter of fact? I got it now!"

  • @destiny-theseries
    @destiny-theseries 2 года назад

    YAY! This is the same thing I've been saying. I think you're 100% correct.

  • @13thGeek
    @13thGeek 2 года назад

    Applying some Occam‘s razor to this theory. Juan is Bungie because they take us on a ride through different universes with their games. The Paraverse theory makes more sense when you consider that the players in the real world are the conduit in which information passes between these unrelated universes of their games. Finally, you can’t have treasure without Xur, treaXur.

  • @moralybankrupt3653
    @moralybankrupt3653 2 года назад

    I remember there being a horse in Season of the Drifter; one of the cut scenes with him.

  • @kinggoya8610
    @kinggoya8610 3 года назад +6

    So.....no else is questioning how this event feels like a game show?

  • @Blaze78x
    @Blaze78x 3 года назад +1

    So excited for this video about to share to my clan because they were asking me about this all day yesterday

  • @jehedd5731
    @jehedd5731 2 года назад

    You can’t forget the cutscene with the drifter and the horse

  • @theangrycucco9775
    @theangrycucco9775 2 года назад

    There was also a cutscene with the drifter and the nine during the season of the drifter which had the horse in it

  • @fpsgoku4207
    @fpsgoku4207 3 года назад

    Myelin looks like cray with that stasche i can't unsee it lol

  • @MJS-lk2ej
    @MJS-lk2ej 3 года назад +12

    I wouldn't trust that second source for the definition of paraverse, considering they incorrectly defined the prefix "para". Para means "in Addition to" or Auxiliary not adjacent to, hence Paramedic or paranormal they are in addition, not adjacent to. although the first definition of paraverse also makes no sense as that is intrinsic in the definition of universe, if the multiverse exists IRL (which there is scientific precedent for) there is a near certainty that the universes that make up the multiverse do not share fundamental constants or laws.
    TL;DR the word paraverse is pretty bogus fluff and is a pretty good example as to why a little bit of gatekeeping isn't always a bad thing.
    Note: if I were to give a definition to the word that makes actual sense I would say a paraverse is what is commonly referred to as a dimension in sci-fi/fantasy; like the hive throne worlds, vex gate network and lay lines from Destiny; the warp from Warhammer 40K; or slipstream space and, the glow from Halo. also any concept of heaven, hell, and purgatory could probably be a paraverse under this definition.

    • @leftwardglobe1643
      @leftwardglobe1643 2 года назад +6

      Para is also present as a root in "parallel." Which to be fair, should be termed as a multiverse, but I see what Bungie is going for. They've been hinting at their games sharing continuity with one another since all the way back in Marathon. Which is almost certainly implied to be a sequel to, or at least an alternate universe of Pathways Into Darkness, which is the game that established concepts like the Darkness and its themes and powers, right down to the pyramid symbology. We also have other confirmation that the various universes are interwoven thanks to the MIDA Multitool.
      I've been preaching it for years, and it looks like bungie finally decided to confirm it to an extent. Our characters are alternate incarnations in a massive cycle/multiverse structure. We are the Master Chief, the Security Officer, the Guardian. We are the Eternal Champion we see mentioned in Marathon's terminals. The one called Roland, Beowulf, Gilgamesh, who's "been given a thousand names, and will be called by a thousand more before the stars go dim and cold. I am a hero."
      We also see continuity in other characters. Durandal, Cortana and Rasputin. The Sleeping God, Wrcncacknter, Flood, and Darkness. The Jjaro, Forerunners, and the Light. Etc.
      You can go for many explanations of why that is aside from the obvious meta reason, but I've always believed that's because the universes are iterative. A continuous cycle. We see that at the end of Marathon Infinity. Durandal's goal was to survive the collapse of the universe, and at the end of it he saw what we were. The axiom we had become. We are Destiny. An inevitability. A forgone conclusion.
      Basically, there are three, or I suppose now four primal beings that survive each iteration. The Light, the force of good that tries to shepherd and shape reality. The Darkness which tries to cull the weak and prepare for a new cycle, the Eternal champion, who may either be a human caught in the struggle and fights for the wellbeing of mankind (alternatively a balancing force designed to keep the powers in check). And now we have the cosmic horse. Who seems to be the Watcher. The one orchestrating the carnage for their own enjoyment.

    • @xXx_Regulus_xXx
      @xXx_Regulus_xXx 2 года назад +2

      you went on that whole rant about the meaning of words, proposed gatekeeping, and then confused "throne" and "thrown"

    • @MJS-lk2ej
      @MJS-lk2ej 2 года назад

      @@xXx_Regulus_xXx hey man, typos and mistakes happen. I am not perfect I fucked up I accidentally typed the wrong form of throne. My point is still valid though.

    • @mastertucker
      @mastertucker 2 года назад

      The idea in the difference between sharing and not sharing fundamental constants is the idea that some may run on similar metrics but moved, while others may not have the same metrics at all. So like in a parallel universe it could be that 1+1=3 but that universe still has metrics that we label numbers. Whereas in much more disconnected alternate universes there wouldn't even be a metric of number. That's what the definition is talking about.
      But like more commonly in fiction there IS the more cut and dry idea of a Multiverse, Megaverse, and Omniverse. In Destiny itself they already described the multiverse with the coin analogy. The other games are like another stack of coins that don't interact. Multiple multiverses collected together is a Megaverse, or in lore would be their Omniverse. Paraverse likely refers to that difference in lore. So the concept does exist.

    • @MJS-lk2ej
      @MJS-lk2ej 2 года назад

      @@mastertucker 1+1 will always equal two because math is a form of communication about quantity. That being said i understand what you are trying to say, there is 23 factors that determine the structure of our universe, to name a few; the speed of light, the strength of the 4 fundamental forces, and the Hubble constant. What I believe you're trying to say is: different universes may have a different property for the speed of light, which is intrinsic to the definition of a universe, universe doesn't imply a specific set of rules, it implies a space governed by a set of rules. The term for "the universal set" i.e the thing that contains all things, is reality. Also the coin analogy doesn't describe a multiverse, the lay lines are part of and are influenced by real space. The lay lines are a segment of the universe, much like a basement is part of a house but does not make up the house.

  • @NanoUchia
    @NanoUchia 2 года назад

    During the whole video I just love that he has the Juan meme on his monitor

  • @streetcrash9
    @streetcrash9 2 года назад

    If the majestic Starhorse is one of The Nine, I would place my money on him being one of the 2 you mentioned in a previous video.

  • @Kyber3000-Kimberly
    @Kyber3000-Kimberly 2 года назад

    Thank you, this is exactly what I needed to try to understand.

  • @ArchieVanZeenie72
    @ArchieVanZeenie72 3 года назад

    Myelin rocking the big duster Stache love it 🤣

  • @Dimension137
    @Dimension137 2 года назад +1

    that might explain why my male character sounds like the original Master Chief in cutscenes they have similar voices

  • @jahsonharris713
    @jahsonharris713 3 года назад

    Juan The Space Horse. Side Note it took me a while to realize Juan was standing on a balcony 😂😂😂

  • @ghost1b235
    @ghost1b235 2 года назад

    THAT STACHE IS FN INCREDIBLE

  • @dagdabelenus115
    @dagdabelenus115 2 года назад

    Just to throw this out there. Remember silent hill 2? The dog pulling the levers? So, we do this stuff in eternity (remember where else there was an eternity?) the horse brays, like Clovis, Elsie, ana. Out there theory but the horse is the entity.

  • @akudapapua
    @akudapapua 2 года назад

    I'm guessing the Space horse is a reference to a couple of Halo songs. On a Pale Horse and Behold a Pale Horse. Maot people don't look at music when thinking about the lore.

  • @Phillipmamowfwifharts
    @Phillipmamowfwifharts 3 года назад +2

    Well at least destiny finally gave me my part in game. “Stamps hoof happily” 😏

  • @RichJow
    @RichJow 2 года назад

    Space-horse approves of "Matt draws things" videos :D

  • @shanewalden2340
    @shanewalden2340 2 года назад

    I'm on a "space" horse......little jingle plays 😁

  • @daveadams6489
    @daveadams6489 2 года назад

    Juan is there to encourage us to pony up the cash for the anniversary content 👌

  • @aka_miso
    @aka_miso 2 года назад

    I don't really have a horse in this race but along with game show I thought it was like betting on horses

  • @Incbuba
    @Incbuba 3 года назад

    Juan! Glad to see Nick's comment made it in

  • @rebeccad4098
    @rebeccad4098 3 года назад +1

    This is really cool, thank you! And well done to Bungie, this was such a good event.

  • @insane3geo
    @insane3geo 2 года назад

    Work schedule makes it so I miss a lot of streams, 😭 hoping that changes soon

  • @raybarrows4418
    @raybarrows4418 2 года назад

    As soon as you pull out paint I like the video

  • @HippieGoblin
    @HippieGoblin 3 года назад

    Super excited for this and your next one And really excited for your next video as well. Keep up the great content and as always I will be here to watch it.