My dream plane is DA 42 or 62. Maybe in a decade or so I can work my way up to one. Simplified run-up and checklist procedures. Don't have to worry about shock cooling. Twin engine security, ultra high efficiency for a twin, all the safety engineered into the plane at every stage as discussed.
@@davidboyle3032 All 3 on board survived a crash that flipped the airplane over, so I'd say it's a good outcome. Will be interesting to see the outcome of the investigation since this is something they should be able to handle. Engine failure on takeoff I guess? Is there any reason to assume the DA62 would be much safer than the DA42 in this scenario? The 62 just seems to have more seats and to be a lot more expensive hehe
@@LifeStyleAviation …..and paying the ‘luxury’ price to do it. I know you’ve heard it more than once…..awesome acft but out of reach for just about everyone. I need an acft that seats 5-6 people (wife, kids, grandkid, me) plus luggage. This acft meets all of those needs but at over $1 mil, the ‘average’ buyer can never get into this.
Great video - love your explanation and presentation. I got my PPL and received instrument and commercial training (but no tickets, ran out of money!!!) over twenty-five years ago, way before GPS and all fancy stuff in the cockpit. Coming back to GA and seeing the advances in tech, holy crap!!! That cockpit is freaking beautiful! I've never seen this aircraft before until I saw the stunning presentation last year that Microsoft showed when they announced their simulator. I didn't know it was a real aircraft. THIS right here! This is the plane to buy if I had such sums of money. Well worth it. Perhaps in the next life...
It seems social media has allowed everyone to be an "expert" on everything. Planes are no exception. I read some the negative comments about the DA62 and shake my head or even laugh. I wonder if the naysayers have any actual experience, other than maybe Flight Simulator, with the DA62. I simply want to pass on our first hand experience with the airplane in hopes that I can clear up some misperceptions. This is all my opinion and as they say "Everybody has one!" The only difference is that in this case I have first hand knowledge as the proud owner and pilot of a DA62. We are fortunate enough to own and fly our own DA62. It's an amazing aircraft in everyway. After not flying for 24 years, I got back into the pilot game in 2018. I originally got my PPL/ME/IFR back in the 80's and stopped in 1994 as our business grew and needed more of my time. After again getting current in 2018, we decided to get a new, or newer, twin and checked them all. There was no comparison between the DA62 and the other options on the market. It wasn't even close for us! All the options were relatively close in price so it came down to capabilities, comfort, safety, and support. Capabilities - The DA62 is new, modern technology based upon a clean sheet design. Look at it! It's 21st century in every way! All the competitors are old school designs that have been updated with modern glass avionics. Think 1975 Cutlass with digital dash. The DA62 flies at about the same speed, (mid 180 knots) with about the same load (4 people with bags & full fuel), 4.5 hours range (plus reserve), but at half the fuel burn (9 GPH per side)! Comfort is a very personal and subjective thing. My family prefers forward seating so the DA62 was their favorite. It's about the same size interior as the others and the seating is ultra comfortable. If we need to we can actually carry 7 total people! Even the A/C is modern. It's fully electric and operates from it's own dedicated alternator. It does not have to be shut off for airport operations like all of the competitors since it does not decrease engine power in this critical phase of flight. That may not sound like a big deal, but passengers (and pilots) hate it when you need to shut off the A/C while in hot weather and you're down low in the high temperatures when taking off or landing? Seems kind of counter-productive to me... All the safety features in the video are true and were very important in our decision. In addition, until you operate the diesel engines you can't understand how smooth and turbine-like they are. They start like you're turning on an electric motor. There is no ignition system so there's no popping and bumping as they fire up. There is no leaning or prop controls. In turbulence it's rock solid and in any flight condition it's confidence inspiring for passengers and pilot alike. Support has been fantastic! Our local A&P went to Diamond school near Toronto to get certified so he takes care of the plane right at our home base. We've only had a few minor "new plane" issues, all of which were quickly resolved and didn't result in any downtime. The complete annual was under $3,000 which was our only expense other than fuel, oil change, oxygen, and TKS fluid. With over 150 flight hours so far, I can say that support has been super! Finally, if you're fortunate enough to be in a position to consider this class of aircraft, call John at Lifestyle and take a test flight. Everyone there is a true professional that wants to help you all the way through the investigation and decision making process. They've certainly earned our trust.
Jeff, this is great feedback and thank you for sharing your experience! As someone who went through the decision and buying process for the DA62, your input is gold. We are so happy you are enjoying your DA62!
Jeffrey Brauer hi jeff. I like yourself and getting back into the flying game. I need to get current. I am considering this aircraft. Or a single engine turbo prop. Any comments or advice??
Hello Jeff, very interesting your points I’m impressed with your determination to get back in the cockpit as PIC after so many years, your story is vey inspiring and I’m determined to do similar. Any advise where I can get current I’m in NC, if you want to fly in to Mt. Air NC 2NCO we have vacation house I will offer you few days free of any charge but a short flight in the DA62, You can check our house on vrbo or Homeaway #330636 thanks Liviu M.
Why doesn’t the DA62 have counter-rotating props? Seems like with those reduction drives they could have done that fairly easily, especially considering how much thought was put into safety features...
Robert Weekley I did some reading and a pilot that does in-flight shutdowns (not sure if simulated or actual) reports he gets a stall warning before losing directional control regardless of which engine is shut down. He says rudder forces are very similar in both. Read the last post of this thread: www.diamondaviators.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5509&start=40
I was down in Durham, NC last summer on business and we got a chance to check out this very DA62 after a demo flight in the DA40NG with the blue stripes. Stunning plane. Even more beautiful and luxurious in the metal! Great people at LifeStyle Aviation. Thanks again Sam!
I have long been considering a Cessna Cardinal, then I see this. I could just sit in front of this plane and cry looking at its beauty. This aircraft is beyond super sexy.
@@Aseutester so they can be brainwashed into thinking safe spaces are ok? We need less computer nerds and more electricians and tradesman. Brains only go so far without the highly skilled technicians.
Very impressed with the level of safety features in this aircraft. It must be one that I should consider. I like the commitment to safety and ease for pilots. It is stressful having to monitor everything and adjust with typical traditional aircraft.
John has sold me on Personal aviation with this safety presentation. I'm blown away by how advanced aviation has come in the past 20 years. Diamond is where it's at. Instant subscriber! Done!
@@Aseutester , single engine high performance, it has the DA62 fuselage with a 300 hp Jet A engine. It will come in two variants, fixed and retractable gear. EASA certification is expected late this year. www.diamondaircraft.com/fileadmin/_processed_/0/a/csm_csm_DA50-V_Gallery_Bild-_4__3671e492a2w_791eb2e871.jpg
I have no doubt in my mind this is the most technically advanced aircraft for it’s time and it looks great too, hands down my favourite thanks Diamond.
Sir YOU are one hell of a FANTASTIC salesman. I'm not a pilot yet but hope to start working toward that, and you have given me the inspiration to get it done so I can purchase a DA62. Heck your so good I almost want to buy 2 of them if I could afford it. Thank you so much for a Great review. WOW !!
Very nice bird. I'm curious to know whether the "over-built" trailing link landing gear system (mentioned at 8:33) allows the DA 62 to operate on fairly rough unpaved grass and gravel strips (e.g. in the way the Pilatus PC12 can with its similar system)?
I always thought the da62 was overpriced but after seeing all the precise engineering that went into it, which prioritizes safety above all, now i know why its price. Y’all have to remember that this plane was built from scratch whereas planes like the cessna, beechcraft, piper… are all based in 30,40,50 yr old designs. If I could afford the diamond I would definitely buy it
@@UncleKennysPlace Faster is always better, but of course the airframe is the limit in this case (and most cases) , but I still want to go further and faster :)
Thank you. This video was the most thorough breakdown of what makes the DA62 the safe plane that it is. I learned about a few features I was unaware of.
Wow... after listening to what you have said about that plane it is just incredible. I know the one accident that I seen on RUclips talked about instructor and student pilot took the plane out of its parameters that caused their fatal crash. But what I seen of the pictures the plane was still fairly intact and recognizable as a diamond
I'm from the future and yes. It's stunning to have this commercial airliner tech in a GA aircraft. radar! deicing inflight! But I have tons of fun with the xcub which also has fully gps flight plans a baby could use it.
@@tdgdbs1 i am not sure about whether it would double the price, it would certainly be expensive than the normal da62 but since diamond is targeting family audience with the da62 unlike the da42 and da40 which is mostly targeted at flight schools, it would be a great addition. no, diesel is still much more efficient than gasoline engine at high altitude. diesel engine might lose some efficiency at high altitude but it is still not that much to overcome the inherent efficiency difference between gasoline and diesel engines and also i don't think high altitude will be much of a problem since it is twin turbocharged. And a bit more power wouldn't hurt either...
@@superchargedpetrolhead What got me thinking of the DA42 diesel was the presentation flight back to Europe. 50% power St John to Portugal. Slow but direct. What I really want when flying with kids is a bathroom.
@@easternwoods4378 if you need a bathroom then only options are cabin class airplanes like king air or the pc12 they are 3 to 4 times expensive but have the capabilities to back it up.
6:07 , the lake looks very familiar, guessed it was Canandaigua Lake, took a look at a satellite map and matched it up against the notched field just to the right, that is right over Hicks Point, NY.
It looks nice in the air, I've seen it flying up the FL coast in pairs one evening. I want one, but...I'm poor. My be should consider Investment banking!!!!
I'm the son of a C-130, P-3, and retired B777 captain and line check airman. Aviation was always a part of my upbringing and I feel very lucky. My dad has a C172 we've flown from Chicago to Austin and Daytona Beach. I've been watching lots of youtube videos about various small planes and I like this one the most. The only question I have is does the company offer a Garmin 3000 option? Just dreaming to buy my dad a nice plane in his retirement. I like this and the Panthera.
Thanks for accurate commentary and nice videos! I own a Malibu but am considering changing the model. I think the DA62 is the best aircraft. from Japan.
@@CyrilDeretz I understand. In Japan, there is an official agency called Alpha Aviation. If I buy, I will buy from that agency. In Japan, DA42 etc. are already imported and used for line pilot training.
@@jorbedo Overhaul costs are ~$28,000 per engine, from my buddy who owns a DA-62. Here's a link for validation: www.avweb.com/ownership/austro-ae330-tbo-climbs-to-1800-hours/
@@LifeStyleAviation Thank you very much, I am right now studying my CPL on old and unsafe airplanes which are Cessna 172 and Piper Cherokee 28. I will switch for Diamond Flight Centre in Ontario as soon as I can and enjoy flying glass cockpit DA40 and DA 42.
I love the DA 62 it has commercial flying technology and safety features. I know it can land on grass can it land in rougher terrain like the Pilatus PC 12?
I like diamond philosophy of avoiding what causes a crash in the first place. Have redundancy and two engines with vortex generators on the leading edges should complement a knowledgeable pilot well and promote safe flying.
I learned to fly in the rotax powered 1st generation DA and DV 20 aircraft. Kind of slow and didnt care for the summer heat here in the desert but great flying airplanes and fun to spin. I could 100 hr/annual them in about 6 hours. Those push rods are nice. Solid feeling controls. I loved them. I would love to fly one of these but had to let my medical expire 10 + years ago. Oh well. Thank you and be safe.
@@UncleKennysPlace I cant do it yet. Still on Morphine and Oxycodone. Once I am off them I will go after my medical again. Until then I just get to watch videos and listen to the F-35s fly over the house. My IA expired as well because I was in the hospital instead of working and renewing all these things. So, I basically get to start over as I havent flown or spun a wrench in well over 10 years. That's ok. Other than learning glass cockpit systems and operation I am thinking it will all come back quickly. If I can get a job so I can pay for flying that is. I dont know of too many places that will hire a 62 year old with a busted up back and neck that hasnt worked in what is soon to be 11 years. Oh well. Be safe and have fun!
I am not a pilot, but and an IT guy. It's taken me 200 flying and plane videos to get the algos to recommend this one. That's a heck of a way to regard your customers with respect and quality.
From one I.T. guy to another, I'm surprised you don't understand that the video uploader is not directly responsible for the operation of RUclips's algorithms. Spend less time on misdirected complaints and learn how to use a search engine.
Couple of observations: 1) So the seats are bolted right to the airframe? How does that work for those of us who like to adjust our seats? (Disregard, this is answered later in the video.) 2) Interesting to see aero-diesel engines are still around. I was a master's candidate at ERAU-Daytona from 1999-2001. Back then, they had a C-182 in their maintenance hangar that was an experimental testbed for a modified diesel engine. Think I saw it around the fall of 2000 or so. At that time, they almost had it done; test flights were showing problems keeping the heat levels down in the cylinders. it wasn't perfected yet. In the intervening years, I've watched from the aviation sidelines as Thielert came---and went. I never did find out who took over GA aero-diesel production after Thielert. I stopped flying after February 2003---moved away from Daytona, took on a federal job, never had the kind of money it takes to rent GA aircraft since. Now, at my age, I don't know if I could even pass a physical to get back into flying. But I'm glad to see that the aero-diesel engines are still around. 3) Are these engines FADEC then? Sounds like it. Might almost explain why there's only one throttle control that I can see from the footage. 4) Is there a critical engine with this aircraft? Are the props counter-rotating?
1). Much better than adjustable seats. The fixed seat position with moveable rudder pedals places the control stick naturally where your arm would fall regardless of your body dimensions. Crush blocks and immensely strong carbon fiber construction makes a 26 g vertical crash survivable. Not sure if there are any adjustable seats that can make that claim. 2). Austro diesels are based on the same Mercedes Benz engine block as the Thielerts, but vastly improved across the board. They basically fixed all of the deficiencies of the Thielert design. Austros are incredibly efficient, quiet, smooth running, easy to manage, and reliable. 3) Yes, they are FADEC. Dual channel ECUs with independant battery backups, each. Liquid cooled, jet engine simple with the advantage of instant spool up. No mixture, prop, carb heat, cowl flap controls to deal with at all. No shock cooling, you can descend in idle power at ridiculous descent rates. No need to obsessively monitor engine instruments and tweak handfuls of levers and knobs. Any exceedances get displayed instantly on the EICAS, but exceedances never happen because, well - FADEC! Single lever control, zero to 100% power being the only guage to monitor, this is what flying in 2020 should be. 4). No counter-rotating props, and yes, left engine is critical, but not really all that critical. No particularly compelling advantage to be gained with counter rotating props. Combination of huge wingspan, massive rudder, and engine location close to the fuselage makes for an almost undetectable difference in single engine handling between right and left engine out. About the same rudder forces either way, and mine climbs at ~ 400 fpm regardless of which engine is shut down.
@@Warhorse500 Securing the dead engine is also simpler and more intuitive than older designs. All you do is shut off the engine master switch, and the prop feathers and the engine shuts down.
Nice aircraft. Always been a fan of Diamond. However if I was in the market for a owner/pilot aircraft in this price bracket. I’d be looking at a Cirrus SF50. Might not have two motors (which are not always an advantage), but it does have CAPS. Something that would give some people piece of mind, especially with precious family on board.
Outstanding video. Having flown both cirrus and diamond, I found the diamonds to have better reliability and build quality. I just wish they had a BRS.
Yeah but that would just add significant weight and besides they still have a much better safety record than Cirrus even w/ out the BRS. BRS was Cirrus's way of making their planes "safer" while Diamond actually put in the man hours to make their aircraft inherently safe all around. I'd feel much more comfortable and safe on a ferry flight in the DA62 than in an SR22.
@@austinmaness8339 I agree to some extent. But for me the BRS adds a safety margin in the rare event of a midair, catastrophic bird strike, ditching, or disabled pilot. I understand the arguments pro and con, but the BRS draws buyers to cirrus even though their planes cost more and arent built as well.
Tharkunify Cirrus has excellent marketing and ways of making themselves look better than everyone else like they’re doing things no one else is. They’re not the only ones with BRS. Meanwhile, Diamond’s busy in Austria developing their own power plants. That being said.. I’d Happily take an SR22T 😎
@@austinmaness8339 Understood. And the marketing worked. I trained on the DA20/40 and never even considered a BRS. It was only afterwards that I had one in the SR22 and it started to make sense and added a layer of safety. I guess in a twin diamond it would be pointless, but a DA40 with a BRS option would attract buyers, in my opinion.
Why everybody thinks on safety only on the pilots safety to land the aircraft? I'm a pilot, and it gives my wife and also me a good feeling to know that should I feel sick and loose conscious in the air, my wife could pull the BRS on our sr22. The Diamond DA62 is probably superior in everything (except for the middle stick between your legs), but because the safety for my family, I still would prefer every day in the year the Cirrus.
I remember these things from flight school. One of the local DPE's wouldn't allow you the take a checkride in them because you couldn't stall the plane, so anyone who learned how to fly on it still had the fly the Skyhawk. Cool looking plane though, but I am not a fan of sticks.
I’m a single engine pilot, however I have a home flight simulator where I fly all types of single and twin GA and commercial aircraft. This aircraft is absolutely gorgeous and beautiful, however one glaring elephant in the room that stands out is the fact that this plane doesn’t have counter rotating propellers. If it had counter rotating propellors, this airplane would be one of the ultimate GA twins
J R: it seats 7 people, how much weight do you want. You can vary some light baggage like small overnight bags, but no GA plane is a fill the tanks and seats and bags. Piston that is.
Ictpilot Ictpilot I would love to see the plane be able to have the tanks full, and have the average weight of a person be around 200lbs, plus whatever the weight of anything the passengers bring. What if 6 of my guy friends and I wanted to go somewhere for a weekend with the fellas? Let’s say Denver, to Miami. The fuel tanks topped off will weigh approximately 576 lbs. then 7 guys that each average 200 lbs., equals 1,400 lbs. then luggage between 7 guys, let’s say averages 50 lbs., per person. So another 350 lbs.. That weight equals 2,326 lbs. To make the math more simple, let’s say you have 2,400 lbs. to play with, to factor in other variables or added options onto the plane that also add weight. The current max takeoff weight is 5,071 lbs. subtract the empty weight of the plane, which is approximately 3,461 lbs. and you have an approximate useful load of 1,565 lbs.. For all 7 guys flying somewhere, all of their weight combined, pretty much takes up the planes entire useful load. In my opinion, if I’m spending North of $1.5 million on a twin engine plane, I would hope to get at least 2,500 lbs. of useful load and not just 1,500 lbs. And with me and a few of my buddy’s, that are all over 6’ tall and stay in good shape by going to the gym, a few of us are in the 215 lbs., to 240 lbs. weight range. With only 1,500 lbs. of a useful load between 7 people, and the fuel is 576 lbs. also added in to the 1,500 lbs., that only leaves you 925 lbs. to work with. That means the average passenger has to weigh no more than 132 lbs.. Lets be honest. Unless you are a very petite lady, or you are a child, you and your buddies aren’t even coming close to touching that average of 132 lbs. a person weight.
@@j.r.777 Not going to happen on a piston plane. Agree planes cost too much now, but there are limits to what you can do on that size plane. Having the ability to load 7 people and fly for two or so hours with that size plane is great. What you have with this is the ability to adjust fuel load and or people. This plane like all other light twins is for a family say 2 adults and a couple of kids to travel, or several adults to fly for a business meeting, etc. If you're loading the scenario your talking about, you'll be in a turboprop or a jet not a light twin.
I see this aircraft also requires Jet A fuel, a modified diesel mill? No "Blue Additive" needed? I saw another article where a company wrote off two business jets due to someone contaminating the anti gel additive with the Blue urea compound. They used a blue additive container to transfer the anti gel compound to the fuel truck. Ouch! Living in the EU now, might try to make it up to the factory to check them out. Unfortunately living in Greece makes it cost prohibitive tax wise to own one here.
Very impressive, however, one concern. With all those computers, what happens during an EMP? This could be from a solar flair as well as a high altitude nuke destination. Well, at least it is not fly by wire control surfaces, as I do not mind loss of power so much, as long as I can control the aircraft.
Hi love your videos! Could you all please do a video on the luggage capacity of Diamond Aircrafts? How many regular sized suitcases can it take, especially in the front compartment?
I was set on a Baron until this video. One major concern, this is a new European aircraft. Parts …. What if something breakes? How long do I have to wait for a part??
I was just going to mention that I really loved the fact that the DA62 has a restroom onboard during flights. Until I found out after we landed that I crapped in one of the passenger seats.
Sounds like a really “Safe” plane! But at the end of a successful “Safe” flight it comes down to a pilot’s judgement, skills, decision making and experience!!!
My dream plane is DA 42 or 62. Maybe in a decade or so I can work my way up to one.
Simplified run-up and checklist procedures.
Don't have to worry about shock cooling.
Twin engine security, ultra high efficiency for a twin, all the safety engineered into the plane at every stage as discussed.
Same!
Uh oh Diamond DA42 Crash in Pennsylvania May 2022 do RUclips search DA 62 might be safer
@@davidboyle3032 All 3 on board survived a crash that flipped the airplane over, so I'd say it's a good outcome. Will be interesting to see the outcome of the investigation since this is something they should be able to handle. Engine failure on takeoff I guess?
Is there any reason to assume the DA62 would be much safer than the DA42 in this scenario? The 62 just seems to have more seats and to be a lot more expensive hehe
Man, what a Sleek, Comfortable Beautiful Plane!!
We agree completely! Like riding your own luxury SUV through the sky! ✈️
@@LifeStyleAviation …..and paying the ‘luxury’ price to do it. I know you’ve heard it more than once…..awesome acft but out of reach for just about everyone. I need an acft that seats 5-6 people (wife, kids, grandkid, me) plus luggage. This acft meets all of those needs but at over $1 mil, the ‘average’ buyer can never get into this.
Great video - love your explanation and presentation.
I got my PPL and received instrument and commercial training (but no tickets, ran out of money!!!) over twenty-five years ago, way before GPS and all fancy stuff in the cockpit. Coming back to GA and seeing the advances in tech, holy crap!!! That cockpit is freaking beautiful! I've never seen this aircraft before until I saw the stunning presentation last year that Microsoft showed when they announced their simulator. I didn't know it was a real aircraft. THIS right here! This is the plane to buy if I had such sums of money. Well worth it.
Perhaps in the next life...
It seems social media has allowed everyone to be an "expert" on everything. Planes are no exception. I read some the negative comments about the DA62 and shake my head or even laugh. I wonder if the naysayers have any actual experience, other than maybe Flight Simulator, with the DA62. I simply want to pass on our first hand experience with the airplane in hopes that I can clear up some misperceptions.
This is all my opinion and as they say "Everybody has one!" The only difference is that in this case I have first hand knowledge as the proud owner and pilot of a DA62.
We are fortunate enough to own and fly our own DA62. It's an amazing aircraft in everyway. After not flying for 24 years, I got back into the pilot game in 2018. I originally got my PPL/ME/IFR back in the 80's and stopped in 1994 as our business grew and needed more of my time. After again getting current in 2018, we decided to get a new, or newer, twin and checked them all. There was no comparison between the DA62 and the other options on the market. It wasn't even close for us! All the options were relatively close in price so it came down to capabilities, comfort, safety, and support.
Capabilities - The DA62 is new, modern technology based upon a clean sheet design. Look at it! It's 21st century in every way! All the competitors are old school designs that have been updated with modern glass avionics. Think 1975 Cutlass with digital dash. The DA62 flies at about the same speed, (mid 180 knots) with about the same load (4 people with bags & full fuel), 4.5 hours range (plus reserve), but at half the fuel burn (9 GPH per side)!
Comfort is a very personal and subjective thing. My family prefers forward seating so the DA62 was their favorite. It's about the same size interior as the others and the seating is ultra comfortable. If we need to we can actually carry 7 total people! Even the A/C is modern. It's fully electric and operates from it's own dedicated alternator. It does not have to be shut off for airport operations like all of the competitors since it does not decrease engine power in this critical phase of flight. That may not sound like a big deal, but passengers (and pilots) hate it when you need to shut off the A/C while in hot weather and you're down low in the high temperatures when taking off or landing? Seems kind of counter-productive to me...
All the safety features in the video are true and were very important in our decision. In addition, until you operate the diesel engines you can't understand how smooth and turbine-like they are. They start like you're turning on an electric motor. There is no ignition system so there's no popping and bumping as they fire up. There is no leaning or prop controls. In turbulence it's rock solid and in any flight condition it's confidence inspiring for passengers and pilot alike.
Support has been fantastic! Our local A&P went to Diamond school near Toronto to get certified so he takes care of the plane right at our home base. We've only had a few minor "new plane" issues, all of which were quickly resolved and didn't result in any downtime. The complete annual was under $3,000 which was our only expense other than fuel, oil change, oxygen, and TKS fluid. With over 150 flight hours so far, I can say that support has been super!
Finally, if you're fortunate enough to be in a position to consider this class of aircraft, call John at Lifestyle and take a test flight. Everyone there is a true professional that wants to help you all the way through the investigation and decision making process. They've certainly earned our trust.
Jeff, this is great feedback and thank you for sharing your experience! As someone who went through the decision and buying process for the DA62, your input is gold. We are so happy you are enjoying your DA62!
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Jeffrey Brauer hi jeff. I like yourself and getting back into the flying game. I need to get current. I am considering this aircraft. Or a single engine turbo prop. Any comments or advice??
Hello Jeff, very interesting your points
I’m impressed with your determination to get back in the cockpit as PIC after so many years, your story is vey inspiring and I’m determined to do similar. Any advise where I can get current I’m in NC, if you want to fly in to Mt. Air NC 2NCO we have vacation house I will offer you few days free of any charge but a short flight in the DA62,
You can check our house on vrbo or Homeaway #330636 thanks Liviu M.
My favourite feature of this plane is the price😁. I can never afford it so I will continue looking for a C-172 or PA-180. Nice bird though.
@Jerome S
PA-28-180, for the win!
Years 1968-1974 are best value for the money, in my humble opinion... can’t wait until I can afford one.
yeah, it's hard to imagine these ever depreciating much.. maybe when we all have anti gravity boots.
Why doesn’t the DA62 have counter-rotating props? Seems like with those reduction drives they could have done that fairly easily, especially considering how much thought was put into safety features...
@@stevenwg2360 - Yup! I wondered that, too! Since "Critical Engine" still remains,with Two Spinning the same way, left or right!
Robert Weekley I did some reading and a pilot that does in-flight shutdowns (not sure if simulated or actual) reports he gets a stall warning before losing directional control regardless of which engine is shut down. He says rudder forces are very similar in both. Read the last post of this thread:
www.diamondaviators.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5509&start=40
I was down in Durham, NC last summer on business and we got a chance to check out this very DA62 after a demo flight in the DA40NG with the blue stripes. Stunning plane. Even more beautiful and luxurious in the metal! Great people at LifeStyle Aviation. Thanks again Sam!
The most beautiful plane in GA. I fell out of love with the Cessna 310 for this plane.
She's a complete showstopper! Thank you for watching!
I have long been considering a Cessna Cardinal, then I see this. I could just sit in front of this plane and cry looking at its beauty. This aircraft is beyond super sexy.
I've flown over 250 kinds of aircraft including about 5400 hrs in 310s, my very favorite plane!
@@karlrschneider - I'm jealous.
Me: I'm sold!
Also me: Do the kids REALLY need to go to college?
No, you are a bad parent to do that too them today!
Just buy it for P3D
@@Aseutester so they can be brainwashed into thinking safe spaces are ok? We need less computer nerds and more electricians and tradesman. Brains only go so far without the highly skilled technicians.
Christian Lemon They could start a business, they're young, plenty of time to make it cash flow successfully.
@@kitdaberserker555 That's what I meant. Screw the indoctrination centres!
IMHO...this airplane the Diamond DA-62 is the best, most beautiful 4 seater prop driven airframe...STUNNING !!!!
A total show-stopper on the runway and in the sky! 😍✈️(And she seats up to 7, too!)
Agree!
Very impressed with the level of safety features in this aircraft. It must be one that I should consider. I like the commitment to safety and ease for pilots. It is stressful having to monitor everything and adjust with typical traditional aircraft.
@Canuck Flying a plane that reduces the pilot workload like the DA62 is definitely a game changer!
John has sold me on Personal aviation with this safety presentation. I'm blown away by how advanced aviation has come in the past 20 years. Diamond is where it's at. Instant subscriber! Done!
A very nice presentation on the safest GA Twin in the world - a pure Masterpiece!
We're very happy you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching! :)
You did a GREAT job explaining everything in a relatively short time!!
Thats aircraft good performance with engines, can short landing and take off
when i win the super lotto i will buy 2
We'll be glad to help - you know where to find us! ;)
I can buy 10 of these planes a month😂
me too.......will keep one in europe and one in the U.S. (for starters)
Me too waiting for windfall.
This will be my Christmas own gift by the end of 2021.Inshala.
Hope that the DA50 will retain all the nice features.
So they don't make that model yet?
@@Aseutester , it's in the process of being certified.
@@davidteen14 Is it a single Engine version?!
@@Aseutester , single engine high performance, it has the DA62 fuselage with a 300 hp Jet A engine. It will come in two variants, fixed and retractable gear. EASA certification is expected late this year.
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I have no doubt in my mind this is the most technically advanced aircraft for it’s time and it looks great too, hands down my favourite thanks Diamond.
Sir YOU are one hell of a FANTASTIC salesman. I'm not a pilot yet but hope to start working toward that, and you have given me the inspiration to get it done so I can purchase a DA62. Heck your so good I almost want to buy 2 of them if I could afford it. Thank you so much for a Great review. WOW !!
Very nice bird. I'm curious to know whether the "over-built" trailing link landing gear system (mentioned at 8:33) allows the DA 62 to operate on fairly rough unpaved grass and gravel strips (e.g. in the way the Pilatus PC12 can with its similar system)?
I always thought the da62 was overpriced but after seeing all the precise engineering that went into it, which prioritizes safety above all, now i know why its price. Y’all have to remember that this plane was built from scratch whereas planes like the cessna, beechcraft, piper… are all based in 30,40,50 yr old designs. If I could afford the diamond I would definitely buy it
Awesome design and engineering! I love this aircraft! I have watched this video several times! Very Detailed and Informative!
I'll own one of these in a few years and use it for my businesses.
Dare I say, the "perfect" twin engine airplane.
Safety and fuel efficiency.
I’d would be nice if it was faster, but you can’t have everything
@@Smokeyr67 Funny, a lot of Baron owners pull back on those throttles to save fuel. You don't need to on this beast.
@@UncleKennysPlace Faster is always better, but of course the airframe is the limit in this case (and most cases) , but I still want to go further and faster :)
The perfect twin engine piston i would say!
Thank you. This video was the most thorough breakdown of what makes the DA62 the safe plane that it is. I learned about a few features I was unaware of.
Wow... after listening to what you have said about that plane it is just incredible. I know the one accident that I seen on RUclips talked about instructor and student pilot took the plane out of its parameters that caused their fatal crash. But what I seen of the pictures the plane was still fairly intact and recognizable as a diamond
Love flying this plane in XP11, hope the one in MSFS2020 is even better and maybe includes that radar and synthetic vision.
I'm from the future and yes.
It's stunning to have this commercial airliner tech in a GA aircraft. radar! deicing inflight!
But I have tons of fun with the xcub which also has fully gps flight plans a baby could use it.
I am from further in the future and DA62 is my current fav plane in FS2020
This plane is the Lexus ES350 of the sky. Built to run 20 years like new with obvious safety, mechanical and physical quality...
That’s a beautiful aircraft and just so much thought gone into the design. Great video !
@Dave Johnson We completely agree - it's unlike anything else in General Aviation! Thank you for watching!
if they can add pressurisation, it will be the ultimate modern day GA aircraft.
And more horsepower.
That would double the price and not adding much speed; diesels are not efficient at high elevation.
@@tdgdbs1 i am not sure about whether it would double the price, it would certainly be expensive than the normal da62 but since diamond is targeting family audience with the da62 unlike the da42 and da40 which is mostly targeted at flight schools, it would be a great addition.
no, diesel is still much more efficient than gasoline engine at high altitude. diesel engine might lose some efficiency at high altitude but it is still not that much to overcome the inherent efficiency difference between gasoline and diesel engines and also i don't think high altitude will be much of a problem since it is twin turbocharged.
And a bit more power wouldn't hurt either...
@@superchargedpetrolhead What got me thinking of the DA42 diesel was the presentation flight back to Europe. 50% power St John to Portugal. Slow but direct. What I really want when flying with kids is a bathroom.
@@easternwoods4378 if you need a bathroom then only options are cabin class airplanes like king air or the pc12 they are 3 to 4 times expensive but have the capabilities to back it up.
6:07 , the lake looks very familiar, guessed it was Canandaigua Lake, took a look at a satellite map and matched it up against the notched field just to the right, that is right over Hicks Point, NY.
What a beautiful aircraft. I would love to own one. All I need are the winning numbers and then decide on a color. :)
It looks nice in the air, I've seen it flying up the FL coast in pairs one evening. I want one, but...I'm poor. My be should consider Investment banking!!!!
At $1.25 mil, that would be some serious investment banking, assuming you also need a roof over your head and food on the table.
Also need to factor in the cost of the divorce.
I'm the son of a C-130, P-3, and retired B777 captain and line check airman. Aviation was always a part of my upbringing and I feel very lucky. My dad has a C172 we've flown from Chicago to Austin and Daytona Beach. I've been watching lots of youtube videos about various small planes and I like this one the most. The only question I have is does the company offer a Garmin 3000 option? Just dreaming to buy my dad a nice plane in his retirement. I like this and the Panthera.
Outstanding presentation, love the 62: my favorite feature of this plane is ‘ALL THE ABOVE.’
Thank you for sharing this useful information.
It's stunning I'm buying one. The only snag I need them 6 lotto numbers to line up for me then I'm off to buy one.
I saw this video total of 15 times. Every time I enjoyed it 100%.
I hope they develop a cabin class twin someday
Thats the salesman everyone would like to have in his company! Top
Thanks for accurate commentary and nice videos!
I own a Malibu but am considering changing the model. I think the DA62 is the best aircraft.
from Japan.
We agree! :) Thank you for watching!
From Austria
Japan? The factory is in Europe. Austria (near Vienna)...
Built in Austria and London, Ontario.
@@CyrilDeretz I understand.
In Japan, there is an official agency called Alpha Aviation.
If I buy, I will buy from that agency.
In Japan, DA42 etc. are already imported and used for line pilot training.
Incredible presentation! Great job! Cant wait to be in the position to get one of these!
Not quite a 310 or an AzTruck, but damn.... she's gorgeous. As the early av engineers used to say, "if it looks good, it'll fly good."
She slays in all areas, even the looks department! 😍✈️
I'm sold! Where do I sign up?
Great sales pitch. 👍
Fascinating! Great video! 💛🙏🏼
nice video well done keep up the good work life style aviation a+
great info video. hugely interesting what one can put into a small craft these days. well done!
We're so glad you found it helpful!! Happy flying!
Great job John
What I like best about this aircraft is that in can climb with the loss of one engine if in the blue line. Can the DA 42 do the same thing?
The DA42, at least the Austro variant, generally has an OEI service ceiling of around 10-11,000 ft.
A diesel plane how cool is that!
Right? And with that FADEC technology it really can't be beat! :)
DA42NGs are diesel with FADEC as well
@@jorbedo Overhaul costs are ~$28,000 per engine, from my buddy who owns a DA-62. Here's a link for validation: www.avweb.com/ownership/austro-ae330-tbo-climbs-to-1800-hours/
I took my first flight in a diesel 172. The FADEC really makes life easy and lets you concentrate on the flying.
Absolutely beautiful plane! The stick however, was a deal breaker! Give the thing a side yoke and it is a winner!
You wouldn't like my PT-22. ;-)
@@karlrschneider You're correct! Apples and oranges.
Diamond in the sky. really enjoy your presentation. Thanks.
I fly the 42NG as a cfi. I wish they would put counter props, make the stick more ergonomic and re design those trash rudder pedals
Am placing an order..just because this fellow talked so well about it
We really appreciate you watching! We love making these videos for you guys!
Lovely, I really like it!!!
We appreciate that, Ahmad!
@@LifeStyleAviation Thank you very much, I am right now studying my CPL on old and unsafe airplanes which are Cessna 172 and Piper Cherokee 28. I will switch for Diamond Flight Centre in Ontario as soon as I can and enjoy flying glass cockpit DA40 and DA 42.
Armstrong you are wonderful salesman. yes the aircraft Is great too
I love the DA 62 it has commercial flying technology and safety features. I know it can land on grass can it land in rougher terrain like the Pilatus PC 12?
Great insightful video.
@Rob M Thank you for watching! :)
And I thought cirrus having a parachute was the best, wow this is a beautiful aircraft
I like diamond philosophy of avoiding what causes a crash in the first place. Have redundancy and two engines with vortex generators on the leading edges should complement a knowledgeable pilot well and promote safe flying.
I learned to fly in the rotax powered 1st generation DA and DV 20 aircraft. Kind of slow and didnt care for the summer heat here in the desert but great flying airplanes and fun to spin. I could 100 hr/annual them in about 6 hours. Those push rods are nice. Solid feeling controls. I loved them. I would love to fly one of these but had to let my medical expire 10 + years ago. Oh well. Thank you and be safe.
The DA20 is a great aircraft to learn in! We love hearing aviation stories...thank you for sharing :)
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@@UncleKennysPlace I cant do it yet. Still on Morphine and Oxycodone. Once I am off them I will go after my medical again. Until then I just get to watch videos and listen to the F-35s fly over the house. My IA expired as well because I was in the hospital instead of working and renewing all these things. So, I basically get to start over as I havent flown or spun a wrench in well over 10 years. That's ok. Other than learning glass cockpit systems and operation I am thinking it will all come back quickly. If I can get a job so I can pay for flying that is. I dont know of too many places that will hire a 62 year old with a busted up back and neck that hasnt worked in what is soon to be 11 years. Oh well. Be safe and have fun!
Great presentation, John! What a beautiful airplane. If I live long enough to wear out the Baron I'll definitely consider a DA62.
Thank you, Gene! Whenever you're ready to try the DA62, we're one call away! :)
WOW, ... great plane, and really good and understandable presentation! Big like! :-)
Thank you! We're happy you enjoyed it!
I know nothing about planes and flying. But i am sure that this plane is awesome.
It's truly incredible...thank you for watching!
I am not a pilot, but and an IT guy. It's taken me 200 flying and plane videos to get the algos to recommend this one. That's a heck of a way to regard your customers with respect and quality.
From one I.T. guy to another, I'm surprised you don't understand that the video uploader is not directly responsible for the operation of RUclips's algorithms. Spend less time on misdirected complaints and learn how to use a search engine.
What a bird, I'm in Love with Diamond 😍 My dream is to have one of these in about 2 years🙏😊 Great video and explanation without noisy music.
The goal for right now is to buy a DA40 and upgrade to a DA62 in the future. Phenomenal aircrafts
Saw my first one yesterday in Ottawa at Rockliffe Airport,pretty sleek looking twin..beautiful
Such a cool airplane.
We agree completely 😍✈️
Great, Great explanation and video... Thanks
Very nice and clever plane👍👍👍
We agree completely!
Loved!
Thank you so much for watching! :)
Awesome and very informative video!
Very informative video John.
Couple of observations:
1) So the seats are bolted right to the airframe? How does that work for those of us who like to adjust our seats? (Disregard, this is answered later in the video.)
2) Interesting to see aero-diesel engines are still around. I was a master's candidate at ERAU-Daytona from 1999-2001. Back then, they had a C-182 in their maintenance hangar that was an experimental testbed for a modified diesel engine. Think I saw it around the fall of 2000 or so. At that time, they almost had it done; test flights were showing problems keeping the heat levels down in the cylinders. it wasn't perfected yet. In the intervening years, I've watched from the aviation sidelines as Thielert came---and went. I never did find out who took over GA aero-diesel production after Thielert. I stopped flying after February 2003---moved away from Daytona, took on a federal job, never had the kind of money it takes to rent GA aircraft since. Now, at my age, I don't know if I could even pass a physical to get back into flying. But I'm glad to see that the aero-diesel engines are still around.
3) Are these engines FADEC then? Sounds like it. Might almost explain why there's only one throttle control that I can see from the footage.
4) Is there a critical engine with this aircraft? Are the props counter-rotating?
1). Much better than adjustable seats. The fixed seat position with moveable rudder pedals places the control stick naturally where your arm would fall regardless of your body dimensions. Crush blocks and immensely strong carbon fiber construction makes a 26 g vertical crash survivable. Not sure if there are any adjustable seats that can make that claim.
2). Austro diesels are based on the same Mercedes Benz engine block as the Thielerts, but vastly improved across the board. They basically fixed all of the deficiencies of the Thielert design. Austros are incredibly efficient, quiet, smooth running, easy to manage, and reliable.
3) Yes, they are FADEC. Dual channel ECUs with independant battery backups, each. Liquid cooled, jet engine simple with the advantage of instant spool up. No mixture, prop, carb heat, cowl flap controls to deal with at all. No shock cooling, you can descend in idle power at ridiculous descent rates. No need to obsessively monitor engine instruments and tweak handfuls of levers and knobs. Any exceedances get displayed instantly on the EICAS, but exceedances never happen because, well - FADEC! Single lever control, zero to 100% power being the only guage to monitor, this is what flying in 2020 should be.
4). No counter-rotating props, and yes, left engine is critical, but not really all that critical. No particularly compelling advantage to be gained with counter rotating props. Combination of huge wingspan, massive rudder, and engine location close to the fuselage makes for an almost undetectable difference in single engine handling between right and left engine out. About the same rudder forces either way, and mine climbs at ~ 400 fpm regardless of which engine is shut down.
@@ultraturtle2673 So what happens in an engine-out situation? How do you isolate the dead engine?
Thank you for your answers, btw.👍
@@Warhorse500 Securing the dead engine is also simpler and more intuitive than older designs. All you do is shut off the engine master switch, and the prop feathers and the engine shuts down.
Nice aircraft. Always been a fan of Diamond. However if I was in the market for a owner/pilot aircraft in this price bracket. I’d be looking at a Cirrus SF50. Might not have two motors (which are not always an advantage), but it does have CAPS. Something that would give some people piece of mind, especially with precious family on board.
Outstanding video. Having flown both cirrus and diamond, I found the diamonds to have better reliability and build quality. I just wish they had a BRS.
Yeah but that would just add significant weight and besides they still have a much better safety record than Cirrus even w/ out the BRS. BRS was Cirrus's way of making their planes "safer" while Diamond actually put in the man hours to make their aircraft inherently safe all around. I'd feel much more comfortable and safe on a ferry flight in the DA62 than in an SR22.
@@austinmaness8339 I agree to some extent. But for me the BRS adds a safety margin in the rare event of a midair, catastrophic bird strike, ditching, or disabled pilot. I understand the arguments pro and con, but the BRS draws buyers to cirrus even though their planes cost more and arent built as well.
Tharkunify Cirrus has excellent marketing and ways of making themselves look better than everyone else like they’re doing things no one else is. They’re not the only ones with BRS. Meanwhile, Diamond’s busy in Austria developing their own power plants. That being said.. I’d Happily take an SR22T 😎
@@austinmaness8339 Understood. And the marketing worked. I trained on the DA20/40 and never even considered a BRS. It was only afterwards that I had one in the SR22 and it started to make sense and added a layer of safety. I guess in a twin diamond it would be pointless, but a DA40 with a BRS option would attract buyers, in my opinion.
Why everybody thinks on safety only on the pilots safety to land the aircraft? I'm a pilot, and it gives my wife and also me a good feeling to know that should I feel sick and loose conscious in the air, my wife could pull the BRS on our sr22. The Diamond DA62 is probably superior in everything (except for the middle stick between your legs), but because the safety for my family, I still would prefer every day in the year the Cirrus.
Nice informative video. Well done.
We're so glad you enjoyed it!
Very nice. As an A&P I really appreciate the engineering effort focus on safe flight.
Wow...very impressive...nice run down and well spoken...looks like a super built plane...world keeps cutting corners....not here...
I remember these things from flight school. One of the local DPE's wouldn't allow you the take a checkride in them because you couldn't stall the plane, so anyone who learned how to fly on it still had the fly the Skyhawk. Cool looking plane though, but I am not a fan of sticks.
I saw a student in a DA20. It was the least eventful stall I’ve seen. Without the warning you really wouldn’t know.
I love this plane. Is one stuck with certain set colors? Mines gotta have some yellow! What is build and delivery time?
I’m a single engine pilot, however I have a home flight simulator where I fly all types of single and twin GA and commercial aircraft. This aircraft is absolutely gorgeous and beautiful, however one glaring elephant in the room that stands out is the fact that this plane doesn’t have counter rotating propellers. If it had counter rotating propellors, this airplane would be one of the ultimate GA twins
It is like a luxury airplane with full bounty equipment! Marvelous airplane.
no doubt this plane is incredible ! love this type of engines.
Amazing! Still cant afford it though. 😭
I really like the Diamond DA-62, but wish it was able to carry more weight. Especially, considering it seats up to 7 people.
J R: it seats 7 people, how much weight do you want. You can vary some light baggage like small overnight bags, but no GA plane is a fill the tanks and seats and bags. Piston that is.
Ictpilot Ictpilot I would love to see the plane be able to have the tanks full, and have the average weight of a person be around 200lbs, plus whatever the weight of anything the passengers bring. What if 6 of my guy friends and I wanted to go somewhere for a weekend with the fellas? Let’s say Denver, to Miami.
The fuel tanks topped off will weigh approximately 576 lbs. then 7 guys that each average 200 lbs., equals 1,400 lbs. then luggage between 7 guys, let’s say averages 50 lbs., per person. So another 350 lbs.. That weight equals 2,326 lbs. To make the math more simple, let’s say you have 2,400 lbs. to play with, to factor in other variables or added options onto the plane that also add weight. The current max takeoff weight is 5,071 lbs. subtract the empty weight of the plane, which is approximately 3,461 lbs. and you have an approximate useful load of 1,565 lbs.. For all 7 guys flying somewhere, all of their weight combined, pretty much takes up the planes entire useful load. In my opinion, if I’m spending North of $1.5 million on a twin engine plane, I would hope to get at least 2,500 lbs. of useful load and not just 1,500 lbs.
And with me and a few of my buddy’s, that are all over 6’ tall and stay in good shape by going to the gym, a few of us are in the 215 lbs., to 240 lbs. weight range. With only 1,500 lbs. of a useful load between 7 people, and the fuel is 576 lbs. also added in to the 1,500 lbs., that only leaves you 925 lbs. to work with. That means the average passenger has to weigh no more than 132 lbs.. Lets be honest. Unless you are a very petite lady, or you are a child, you and your buddies aren’t even coming close to touching that average of 132 lbs. a person weight.
@@j.r.777 Not going to happen on a piston plane. Agree planes cost too much now, but there are limits to what you can do on that size plane. Having the ability to load 7 people and fly for two or so hours with that size plane is great. What you have with this is the ability to adjust fuel load and or people. This plane like all other light twins is for a family say 2 adults and a couple of kids to travel, or several adults to fly for a business meeting, etc. If you're loading the scenario your talking about, you'll be in a turboprop or a jet not a light twin.
Just be sure to eat more salads and fewer cheeseburgers. :P
@@j.r.777 Surely you meant to quote your mass in kilograms and your heights in metres?
I've wanted one since I first saw it.
And she flies just as good as she looks! :)
I love this plane. I am impressed and am considering a purchase.
I see this aircraft also requires Jet A fuel, a modified diesel mill? No "Blue Additive" needed?
I saw another article where a company wrote off two business jets due to someone contaminating the anti gel additive with the Blue urea compound. They used a blue additive container to transfer the anti gel compound to the fuel truck. Ouch!
Living in the EU now, might try to make it up to the factory to check them out. Unfortunately living in Greece makes it cost prohibitive tax wise to own one here.
No "Blue Additive" needed. Just plain ole kerosene (aka Jet A).
A great video about an amazing design of a plane
Very impressive, however, one concern. With all those computers, what happens during an EMP? This could be from a solar flair as well as a high altitude nuke destination. Well, at least it is not fly by wire control surfaces, as I do not mind loss of power so much, as long as I can control the aircraft.
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!
Hi love your videos! Could you all please do a video on the luggage capacity of Diamond Aircrafts? How many regular sized suitcases can it take, especially in the front compartment?
I was set on a Baron until this video. One major concern, this is a new European aircraft. Parts …. What if something breakes? How long do I have to wait for a part??
What an aircraft!
What about auto-land? I hear Pipers are now offering auto-land capability in the high end Piper aircraft. Sounds fantastic.
I was just going to mention that I really loved the fact that the DA62 has a restroom onboard during flights. Until I found out after we landed that I crapped in one of the passenger seats.
Classy !
I’m in love,Austria here I come ❤
How can you structure ownership to make this more attainable?
I see Radio Island and the Beaufort Inlet @ 17:17
Sounds like a really “Safe” plane! But at the end of a successful “Safe” flight it comes down to a pilot’s judgement, skills, decision making and experience!!!