MBE seems like a good man of integrity. My mom got charged $700 by a local shop to change her spark plugs and it was only 6 spark plugs. Its some shady people out there. Pray for people with integrity. Definitely respect MBE
Man i built a ported box for two 15" that barely fit in dudes trunk, rewired all his speakers, moved his amps, replaced his battery and terminals, did some extra grounds and power wire under the hood for $1200 lol man
It all boils down to Hoffman's LAWS. 1. Efficiency 2. Deep Bass Extension 3. Enclosure Size - You can only pick TWO. ALSO: Do you want to satisfy a meter at a competition, or do you want to hear all the notes of your music? I did two fifteens sealed in a 2018 Civic sedan and I was in heaven! Almost 135 dB at 20Hz and 144-145 in the higher ranges. Everything just sounded amazing. I did sacrifice quite a bit of trunk with only 11 inches of room behind the box. (subs were firing forward)
Well it's easy to be honest about someone else's work and point out someone mistakes, especially when he is actively trying to get the guy to commission him for a box
@@bearxbunny1835its what he does all day every day whether he’s commissioning g a sale or not. In fact he WONT build an undersized box so the jab at his integrity falls short.
I built the box to what the customer had available he use to have 2 big ass Agm batteries in there he was also made aware that the trunk wasn’t large enough he brought me the subs I didn’t sell them to him. I also told him it would be loud looks like I win! Subs are also supposed to be on a 8k not a 4k I didn’t do install.
@@boxd_up8362Did you verify the box tuning? Put it on a DATS to see where the peak is? You maybe could have used a smaller port area to bring the tuning down while still avoiding any chuffing noise at high volume.
@@jasonsmith9161 It wasn't a jab at his integrity, I was just stating that in this situation it's easy to be honest and it is!!! I know how he works and I know he will only build a box if it will sound right, but in this particular scenario its easy to trash it because it's not his name on the line, that is all
You can probably get 5 cubes in that trunk, theres still room all around that box. Either build the box in the trunk or build 2 separate boxes that you can wiggle in there. But building the box inside the trunk would be best.
Man, he came to me first before them. I told him they wouldn't work. Most people go get the subs before they get a quote because they want it. Hate they did that to him, but I told him I could put one in there and do what he doing now but lower.
@@Peytonwatson14 he doesn't have the space. But there are subs like MBE told him DC lvl 4 12's resilient sounds gold 12's CT Sounds Strato 12's. Those subs take small boxes
I listened to that song on my home stereo TV setup and my setup's response curve begins at 15 Hz. There is not a lot of bass in that song except for the beat which is not low at all and the synth bass, which is about a 'B' down to 'G' on a standard bass guitar. So, 4 or five more songs from different artists and shutting the doors/windows would show a greater range of actual frequencies heard and also, 39 Hz showed at least 3 times while the song was playing here. Perhaps an actual audio test CD is in order, as well. 🤗🤨😏
I'd have to say MBE is a real one I called him a few years back told him what subwoofers I had trying to put in my pickup, told him the truck model he told me he'd love to make me a box but what I had wasn't going to work for those particular subs to sound good and I definitely respected that. To go a little further hell he knew more about my truck then I did I had to walk out to my truck and look at it like damn he was right.
You're a real stand up guy,im eventually gonna have a box by you for my 2000 expedition. I want 18's 2,or some strong 15's. I have have 2 8k taramps sitting waiting,but ive been working alot lately, plenty overtime because it seems like nobody wants to bro.
Box didn’t come apart customer dropped the box on the bolt terminals cracking the side wall. I offered for materials to take it apart and fix it. Just think box is doing a 47 with a cracked loading wall the port is L shaped customer knew from the rip he didn’t have the space for them. He was also only charged 1000$ from the shop I didn’t see a dime of that money. We also explained we were very busy an I ended up having to build the box on my day off. He is also suppose to have a 8k on them. The parameters on sundowns site are for rms power not giving them the beans. The resonant freq of the car is 41 not the box tuning. Yes larger enclosure would get lower. He explained what was going in there an I built around his install. I bet on the 8k a fixed box that car does over a 150 on the meter.
Thanks for commenting. (A vehicle resonant frequency of 41hz would be for a vehicle size like a Suburban. That car is probably closer to 55hz. From the moment he turned up the music the lowest frequency that popped up was 39hz. Maybe it was the song, but man, that box tuning has to be pretty high. 40-42 maybe? I wonder if an 8" or 10" aeroport would be the better option.)
u could run 12s too just some that dont need as much air space as the ones hes running. if his box has about 4 cubes of air volume he can run some decent 12s
@@grandamwhich DD are you using? And how much power? I’m about to get four DC m4 8s for my 18 Silverado crew cab running a 2k now, plan on adding a second 2k in a couple months, but in a custom built sealed box for those DCs (.4 cu/ft per sub). Seeing how people are liking similar setups. Thanks! 🙏🏼
@toddcontino7271 The DD 2508's. And I have 2 DD 1500a amps pushing them. Each pair is wired to 1 ohm so I have an amp on each pair. Man your truck is going to slam bro!!!
invert one of the subs and fix the wireing according for it or invert both of them.. it wont be 32 but itll be better 1200$ for a simple box like that is ridiculous.. that thing should been like maybe 150.. a 1200 box is like some custom epoxy laser cut.. etc.. and itll be dead on specs for 1200
Almost seems like the builder built the box size to spec before subtracting the port displacement... which is pretty much what you said right after I posted comment lol. I should've finished watching before posting
Nice. I always build my own boxes. My dc lvl415d4 is in a 4.76 cube after port bracing and subs. Tuned to 26hz. They get low. Gives a great back massage at 10hz on about 20 on the head unit. Turn off the mids and highs. Really can't hear much. Just feel it. Did I mention their in a yaris. 2 xs 1200, 4 ioxus supercaps, 325 singer. Running on a marts 8k.
Tell that guy to listen to MBE. Have MBE build you a box. He’ll take care of you. Whatever he tells you to do with the components you have, you’ll be happy.
They built the box like that to be able to slid a box in the trunk. Otherwise your gonna have to build it in the trunk. With the subs being in a smaller box he needs another amp on em. It will be around 150db. U series subs take a smaller box so he might be able to salvage the box and put those in there and see how they sound. I think the stereo shop was just trying to make it work with what the customer had and not build the box in the trunk. It would be way louder if the box was built in the trunk and sealed off with a bigger amp on em and of course more air space. If those are Z series you can go up to 24 cuin of port area Did some calculations of the box..... deducting the wood thickness I come up around 1.62 cuft per sub. He's gonna build up pressure in that box and its going to tear the cone or surround up. The XL series of DC audio would be a good option. Talked to them before about getting 4 of those subs and dude told me that 2 12s would do around 152 db that they have a lot of guys hitting those with the right box and car prep. big difference between a 2.2 cuft box and a 1.6 cuft box with a sub requiring 2.5 cuft.
M.B., what city are you located near? Also, I just found out that for your door speakers and side speakers you can put in your vehicle specs on the Pioneer site and it'll show you what will work from what Pioneer offers
I need me a consultant, 2003 accord 4 door .I have two 8inch Sundown Audio. What should my box dimensions be!?🤔 (very good video, I watch every second of it)
I built my own 6cuft box for two Sundown 12s and it beats cause I did 3 revisions. Built the final with birch and oak dowel bracing. It just beats cause I built it for those subs. Do your homework ppl
Hey MB. why do you have the SPL meter on the floor. here in Australasia we place it on the windshield at head height level. That would make more sense as its where the listening position is.
@Hotecce1- It depends on what organization you compete in. Every one thinks that there way is the best way to meter. Db drag meters on the passenger side Glass, with ALL windows up= not how people listen to music(with there heads up against the glass), Usaci puts the SPL meters in a steel globe, located in the passenger side, kick panel area(again not where people have there heads), & they allow any combination of doors, or windows to be open. Then there is in my opinion, the best way to meter= Meca Car Audio competitions, put the SPL meter on a seat, & about 26"/65 cm high( approx. @ Ear Level), with any combination of windows, or doors open= like in a Demo/Listening session.
Hola mb soy de México 🇲🇽 que medida de cajon puedo usar para un par de subwoofer skar audio VXF 12 no hablo ingles me gusta mucho tu contenido eres lo mejor espero tu respuesta 👍.
A 72 square inch port would have to be at least 24-30 inches long to reach a F3 of 32 in a 4 cubic foot net box right? So that F3 somewhere around 40hz?
‼️He could keep the Subz , build a good infinite Baffle and it’ll Bang Harder an Lower than any Box system An still keep 80% of his trunk space ☝️😎‼️ bet ‼️
I remember when I asked my local shop about a 8 to 9 cube box and they looked at me like I was crazy. One of them even said I don’t need that big of a box… I just walked out.
Yikes....i got a salt8 on three x10s doing 152 Some shops shouldnt be shops but you also gotta do your homework as the customer. Some people just have more money than sense.
I bought 2 8's for my car cause I wanted trunk space yet to be able to put groceries back there or whatever. I got a box made to the specs man I have no trunk space now anyways. The Skar ZVX 8's require such a bigger box than most 8's it's 2.5cuft Net after displacements proper box tuned to 38hz damn thing is massive but I'll tell you what it's loud and get's down and sounds so good. A proper box is a must if not then your only cheating yourself.
Sup...I'm from Indiana....Gary that is. I have a memphis amp sr1.500....1000w rms power. I love kicker subs 12's...2 that is. I never had 8s or 10s. I'm think L7's. What u suggests? I'm very interested in getting a box built. What u think?
If you look close you can see rubber pads under the feet lifting the amp up. Plus it's screwed down near the box edges. Plus the port wall is directly under the amp, stiffening the box. Normally you don't want to bolt an amp to the box, but in this situation it looks okay. The only issue is maybe if the box is not held firmly to the vehicle. If the entire enclosure is vibrating, you definitely want to mount the amp somewhere else.
@@ssjdavid it doesn’t take much to ruin the internals of an amplifier by vibration. I understand you mount your Sony 1000 to your box but an expensive amp like this should be mounted on an amp rack
The 300 has the same trunk size as the Charger and Challenger, you have enough room for 2 12s, but don't really need more than 2 8s or 10s. I'm running 2 Sundown 8s in a 2010 300C.
You can't have shops doing your boxes. They don't do 200 percent effort into it like people who actually dedicate themselves to doing the actual boxes.
@@anthonywashington9731it broke the taillight out? Rear window seal all fucked up. I didn’t sell him the subs I built it around what he said he had. He also knew he didn’t have enough space. Also use to have 2 huge agm batteries in there and the amp was on the back of the box. Box also didn’t break he was unloading in an dropped it on the bolt terminals so doing a decent number with a broke side baffle. The edge never broke it cracked the board in the center.
@@boxd_up8362so you are the guy that messaged MBE ,that built that enclosure..he showed you where you was wrong..basically you got fact checked....you wad the 4th person the customer came too....just say no if it don't build something just cause u can.
damn. I might need you to build me a box. Im buying an 07 Tahoe tomorrow and I have a sundown sa 12 v2 subwoofer in a prefab box sitting in storage with a rockford fosgate 1500 amp ready to go in tahoe
@@jasonsmith9161 getting that one x will have to wait. this tahoe needs lots of work. needs a new hood, new fenders, new dashboard, new weatherstripping, they sticker bombed all the windows so it needs to be retinted. they had this tahoe squatted at one point in its life. they left on half of the lowering kit so i had to order new lowering springs and shocks for the rear. the front has 2" drop spindles but still looks too high in the front. the seats need to be redone. the carpet is all stained. they drilled holes in the trim pieces on the dash. i did get a good deal on it tho. ima make it right
4.9 cubic ft total volume taking concideration the double baffle and thickness of wood. 29(26.75) 14 (12.5) 27(25.5) all numbers are the actual internal measurements.
@PoppaTinstall- Thats gross external cu. ft. The net internal= 3.34 Cu. Ft. So each 12" sundown subwoofer, is getting 1.67 cu. Ft. Net! Sundown recommends 2.5 cu. Ft. Net. This enclosure would be about the right Net cu. Ft., for 2- 10" X's, ZV5's, or ZV6's.
MBE may be a good man....BUT HE DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXES. That box is perfect for those subs...it's just tuned alot higher than told. Those subs only require 2.5cuft each.
Yeah I thought it was common that your vehicle peaks higher than your box tune, I was confused when he said that. Not sure if he means it should be lower than 41, not exactly at 32 but maybe in the 30s. Either way I glad others noticed this.
Box tuning matters and I’m not saying that I disagree on the box being to little but the cars resident frequency plays a huge factor in the way the box performs. That’s the purpose of sound deader
He’s saying that box won’t hit 32 no matter what, with those subs. So he played the loudest lowest song he had to see how low He could get. I promise he knows boxing tuning, SPL, SQ, SQL, he knows what he’s talking about, sometimes he may not articulate his meaning clearly but don’t sleep on his knowledge.
If you watch those frequencies from the time he turns up to music, you'll see that none of the bass notes are below 39hz. Assuming the song actually has low bass getting to the amp, it shows that box isn't capable of playing low. It's like the box output rolls off below 39. So a box tuning around 42-43 hz maybe?
The meter is reading best scores at 41Hz, in a box that's supposed to be tuned to 32Hz. Why isn't he getting his best scores at the claimed tuning frequency?
@whoareyou5722 The energy in the song may be all over the place. It may not even be playing strong at low frequencies. Plus the acoustics of the vehicle are coupling with the box creating a new peak frequency. To know the box tuning you need to run an impedance sweep with a DATS or watch the sub movement very closely as you play test tones. The cone will move the least at the box resonant frequency.
From the time he turned up that song, the lowest frequency I saw was 39hz. That's strange. Either the song has no low bass or the sub is unloading and producing weak output below 39hz. This is typically what you'd see from a box tuned around 43hz. I hope his subsonic filter is turned down. I wonder if his headunit is even playing low frequencies?
MBE seems like a good man of integrity. My mom got charged $700 by a local shop to change her spark plugs and it was only 6 spark plugs. Its some shady people out there. Pray for people with integrity. Definitely respect MBE
Spark plug change isn't as simple as you may think, in most cases you have to remove a lot to get to them, including the entire intake
@@jaebang1128reminds me of the Prius. Gotta remove the windshield wipers to get to the spark plugs.
@@12Messenger He lied to this man. Alot of factors could play in that 41 hz. Cabin rise, song frequency ECT
@jaebang1128 true, a lot of 6 cylinder engines have the intake manifold on top of the motor blocking some of spark plug openings.
Depends on the car tbh. Some cars have them inside the firewall lol
Personally I think he better off with one 12 in the right box with proper tuning.
I’ve learned so much from you MB..that when I talk to anybody about car audio ,they look at me as if I’m speaking Russian ……I usually just stop 😂
relatable haha
MBE you gotta make him a box thats right now and show us a before and after video video for comparison!
Man i built a ported box for two 15" that barely fit in dudes trunk, rewired all his speakers, moved his amps, replaced his battery and terminals, did some extra grounds and power wire under the hood for $1200 lol man
It all boils down to Hoffman's LAWS. 1. Efficiency 2. Deep Bass Extension 3. Enclosure Size - You can only pick TWO. ALSO: Do you want to satisfy a meter at a competition, or do you want to hear all the notes of your music? I did two fifteens sealed in a 2018 Civic sedan and I was in heaven! Almost 135 dB at 20Hz and 144-145 in the higher ranges. Everything just sounded amazing. I did sacrifice quite a bit of trunk with only 11 inches of room behind the box. (subs were firing forward)
On how much power cause that’s a 150 all day lol
Much respect MB. Really appreciate your honesty and then explaining to this man why he isn't getting what he paid for. This adds to your success 💯
Well it's easy to be honest about someone else's work and point out someone mistakes, especially when he is actively trying to get the guy to commission him for a box
@@bearxbunny1835its what he does all day every day whether he’s commissioning g a sale or not. In fact he WONT build an undersized box so the jab at his integrity falls short.
I built the box to what the customer had available he use to have 2 big ass Agm batteries in there he was also made aware that the trunk wasn’t large enough he brought me the subs I didn’t sell them to him. I also told him it would be loud looks like I win! Subs are also supposed to be on a 8k not a 4k I didn’t do install.
@@boxd_up8362Did you verify the box tuning? Put it on a DATS to see where the peak is?
You maybe could have used a smaller port area to bring the tuning down while still avoiding any chuffing noise at high volume.
@@jasonsmith9161 It wasn't a jab at his integrity, I was just stating that in this situation it's easy to be honest and it is!!! I know how he works and I know he will only build a box if it will sound right, but in this particular scenario its easy to trash it because it's not his name on the line, that is all
You can probably get 5 cubes in that trunk, theres still room all around that box. Either build the box in the trunk or build 2 separate boxes that you can wiggle in there. But building the box inside the trunk would be best.
Someone else already noticed this but your audio and video is not syncing correctly! If you haven't noticed :)
i thought my phone was tweekin
Lol I thought it was my phone
Thought it was my phone 😂
Man, he came to me first before them. I told him they wouldn't work. Most people go get the subs before they get a quote because they want it. Hate they did that to him, but I told him I could put one in there and do what he doing now but lower.
What would you suggest for dude? Just a better(bigger) box or does his car not have enough room for a sufficient box?
@@Peytonwatson14 he doesn't have the space. But there are subs like MBE told him DC lvl 4 12's resilient sounds gold 12's CT Sounds Strato 12's. Those subs take small boxes
People like to say they have 12s, but what’s the benefit if you can’t run em correctly?
@10spann ..True but a lot of ppl kno nuthin about subs foreal..just want wat they want and end up losing
@@10spann that makes sense. Hopefully he listen to yours and MB’s advice this time
I listened to that song on my home stereo TV setup and my setup's response curve begins at 15 Hz. There is not a lot of bass in that song except for the beat which is not low at all and the synth bass, which is about a 'B' down to 'G' on a standard bass guitar. So, 4 or five more songs from different artists and shutting the doors/windows would show a greater range of actual frequencies heard and also, 39 Hz showed at least 3 times while the song was playing here. Perhaps an actual audio test CD is in order, as well. 🤗🤨😏
I'd have to say MBE is a real one I called him a few years back told him what subwoofers I had trying to put in my pickup, told him the truck model he told me he'd love to make me a box but what I had wasn't going to work for those particular subs to sound good and I definitely respected that. To go a little further hell he knew more about my truck then I did I had to walk out to my truck and look at it like damn he was right.
Im gonna pause now and prepare to see this $1200 box 😂
You're a real stand up guy,im eventually gonna have a box by you for my 2000 expedition. I want 18's 2,or some strong 15's. I have have 2 8k taramps sitting waiting,but ive been working alot lately, plenty overtime because it seems like nobody wants to bro.
Box didn’t come apart customer dropped the box on the bolt terminals cracking the side wall. I offered for materials to take it apart and fix it. Just think box is doing a 47 with a cracked loading wall the port is L shaped customer knew from the rip he didn’t have the space for them. He was also only charged 1000$ from the shop I didn’t see a dime of that money. We also explained we were very busy an I ended up having to build the box on my day off. He is also suppose to have a 8k on them. The parameters on sundowns site are for rms power not giving them the beans. The resonant freq of the car is 41 not the box tuning. Yes larger enclosure would get lower. He explained what was going in there an I built around his install. I bet on the 8k a fixed box that car does over a 150 on the meter.
Thanks for commenting.
(A vehicle resonant frequency of 41hz would be for a vehicle size like a Suburban. That car is probably closer to 55hz. From the moment he turned up the music the lowest frequency that popped up was 39hz. Maybe it was the song, but man, that box tuning has to be pretty high. 40-42 maybe? I wonder if an 8" or 10" aeroport would be the better option.)
☝🏿….. fact
I would much rather have one sub in the right box than two subs in the wrong box. For his car, maybe some 8's or 10's would work better.
u could run 12s too just some that dont need as much air space as the ones hes running. if his box has about 4 cubes of air volume he can run some decent 12s
I have 4 8" DD subs that are destroying my car. That's all he needs is 4 8's.
@@grandamwhich DD are you using? And how much power? I’m about to get four DC m4 8s for my 18 Silverado crew cab running a 2k now, plan on adding a second 2k in a couple months, but in a custom built sealed box for those DCs (.4 cu/ft per sub). Seeing how people are liking similar setups. Thanks! 🙏🏼
@toddcontino7271 The DD 2508's. And I have 2 DD 1500a amps pushing them. Each pair is wired to 1 ohm so I have an amp on each pair. Man your truck is going to slam bro!!!
@@grandamright on! Thanks man! It’s the first time I’m trying 8s myself
I love being educated from your channel. Looks ain’t everything, cause it looks like it would tear the trunk apart.
Form follows function. Know your space. Learned that from this channel.
invert one of the subs and fix the wireing according for it or invert both of them.. it wont be 32 but itll be better
1200$ for a simple box like that is ridiculous.. that thing should been like maybe 150.. a 1200 box is like some custom epoxy laser cut.. etc.. and itll be dead on specs for 1200
Almost seems like the builder built the box size to spec before subtracting the port displacement... which is pretty much what you said right after I posted comment lol. I should've finished watching before posting
Nice. I always build my own boxes. My dc lvl415d4 is in a 4.76 cube after port bracing and subs. Tuned to 26hz. They get low. Gives a great back massage at 10hz on about 20 on the head unit. Turn off the mids and highs. Really can't hear much. Just feel it. Did I mention their in a yaris. 2 xs 1200, 4 ioxus supercaps, 325 singer. Running on a marts 8k.
Tell that guy to listen to MBE. Have MBE build you a box. He’ll take care of you. Whatever he tells you to do with the components you have, you’ll be happy.
Temporarily invert them get better performance
FACTS NOT FICTION. Love myron
They built the box like that to be able to slid a box in the trunk. Otherwise your gonna have to build it in the trunk. With the subs being in a smaller box he needs another amp on em. It will be around 150db. U series subs take a smaller box so he might be able to salvage the box and put those in there and see how they sound. I think the stereo shop was just trying to make it work with what the customer had and not build the box in the trunk. It would be way louder if the box was built in the trunk and sealed off with a bigger amp on em and of course more air space. If those are Z series you can go up to 24 cuin of port area
Did some calculations of the box..... deducting the wood thickness I come up around 1.62 cuft per sub. He's gonna build up pressure in that box and its going to tear the cone or surround up. The XL series of DC audio would be a good option. Talked to them before about getting 4 of those subs and dude told me that 2 12s would do around 152 db that they have a lot of guys hitting those with the right box and car prep. big difference between a 2.2 cuft box and a 1.6 cuft box with a sub requiring 2.5 cuft.
M.B., what city are you located near?
Also, I just found out that for your door speakers and side speakers you can put in your vehicle specs on the Pioneer site and it'll show you what will work from what Pioneer offers
May have to get them 6.5 under this seat lift in my 2004 Ram.
I need me a consultant, 2003 accord 4 door .I have two 8inch Sundown Audio. What should my box dimensions be!?🤔 (very good video, I watch every second of it)
Move the box as far back as possible. Would be around $500-700 tops is all I see in that box.
Hwy... Robbery... $1200 cuz that's crazy cuz . . I see that haven't changed.
I built my own 6cuft box for two Sundown 12s and it beats cause I did 3 revisions. Built the final with birch and oak dowel bracing. It just beats cause I built it for those subs. Do your homework ppl
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for, I’ve been designing a box and this video was my realization I need to make it bigger and tuned lower.
Hey MB. why do you have the SPL meter on the floor. here in Australasia we place it on the windshield at head height level. That would make more sense as its where the listening position is.
@Hotecce1- It depends on what organization you compete in. Every one thinks that there way is the best way to meter. Db drag meters on the passenger side Glass, with ALL windows up= not how people listen to music(with there heads up against the glass), Usaci puts the SPL meters in a steel globe, located in the passenger side, kick panel area(again not where people have there heads), & they allow any combination of doors, or windows to be open. Then there is in my opinion, the best way to meter= Meca Car Audio competitions, put the SPL meter on a seat, & about 26"/65 cm high( approx. @ Ear Level), with any combination of windows, or doors open= like in a Demo/Listening session.
@evilinside5984 that's interesting. I had no idea that those different methods are used.
Question: What’s the recommendation box measurements for two Skar 15 ddx subs?
The box tune to high!
Hola mb soy de México 🇲🇽 que medida de cajon puedo usar para un par de subwoofer skar audio VXF 12 no hablo ingles me gusta mucho tu contenido eres lo mejor espero tu respuesta 👍.
Try to use what the manufacturer recommends.
Ok gracias una pregunta si son buenos los subwoofer VXF 12 todavía no los e escuchado y esirto que train algo de SQ@@JasonWW2000
A 72 square inch port would have to be at least 24-30 inches long to reach a F3 of 32 in a 4 cubic foot net box right? So that F3 somewhere around 40hz?
‼️He could keep the Subz , build a good infinite Baffle and it’ll Bang Harder an Lower than any Box system
An still keep 80% of his trunk space
☝️😎‼️ bet ‼️
Great info always Fact not Fiction !
I remember when I asked my local shop about a 8 to 9 cube box and they looked at me like I was crazy. One of them even said I don’t need that big of a box… I just walked out.
I have 2 xv3 15s in almost 20cube rn now 😂😂over 150 2200watts
Yikes....i got a salt8 on three x10s doing 152
Some shops shouldnt be shops but you also gotta do your homework as the customer. Some people just have more money than sense.
I’m in the 757 & I think i heard of that shop 🤦♂️ I may have to learn how to make a box for my car. Single 15 box for my Box 📦 chevy caprice
I bought 2 8's for my car cause I wanted trunk space yet to be able to put groceries back there or whatever. I got a box made to the specs man I have no trunk space now anyways. The Skar ZVX 8's require such a bigger box than most 8's it's 2.5cuft Net after displacements proper box tuned to 38hz damn thing is massive but I'll tell you what it's loud and get's down and sounds so good. A proper box is a must if not then your only cheating yourself.
Sup...I'm from Indiana....Gary that is. I have a memphis amp sr1.500....1000w rms power. I love kicker subs 12's...2 that is. I never had 8s or 10s. I'm think L7's. What u suggests? I'm very interested in getting a box built. What u think?
So do you prefer DC over sundown zv3 or v6
Now I’m wondering if my box is too small. I have 4 of those subs in a suburban.
Two 10s or 2-3 8s probably would’ve been better with that box.
He got room for 2 sundown u-10s. 3 cubes. On that 4k would be perfect power too.
That Jag clean
It’s a OL’SCHOOL
JAGUAR👈 😎
@@eurekaakerue4649 right the Jag shit is clean
please get that amp off the box without any sort of vibration padding underneath
If you look close you can see rubber pads under the feet lifting the amp up. Plus it's screwed down near the box edges. Plus the port wall is directly under the amp, stiffening the box.
Normally you don't want to bolt an amp to the box, but in this situation it looks okay.
The only issue is maybe if the box is not held firmly to the vehicle. If the entire enclosure is vibrating, you definitely want to mount the amp somewhere else.
Bro the whole car literally shakes you think if it’s on the box it’ll be any different? Crazy lol
@@ssjdavid it doesn’t take much to ruin the internals of an amplifier by vibration. I understand you mount your Sony 1000 to your box but an expensive amp like this should be mounted on an amp rack
Yeah that box is way to small. They need like 3 to 4 cubic a piece
That box is about the right size for two Kicker Comp 10s
Looking for subs that hit lows what brand is good it is going on 2011 Tahoe.
With a smaller port he could’ve lowered tuning and gained net … port setup is wrong … but that’s plenty room for them subs
Don’t get a box from this guy. Sir the gross volume not even 5 cubes, and yet you say that plenty of room.😂
MB man, the audio not matching up with the video... Not sure what's causing that...
Judging by the comments, lots of newbies and first timers in the chat
Which sundowns are those
Box way too small
SAD tO SEE tHE SIGNAtURE OF misogyny
Sounds like he did this to himself honestly.. one guy told him no.. and seems like the builder also told him.. customer is always rt 😂
Saw him selling them on market place, i would have copped if i didnt buy a pc recently 😭
U real deal
Invert the subs 😂
I'm doing 146db in an MTX prefab sealed box😂
I said I like 80s music, not tune in the 80s 😂
Wondering what sins and box I need for my 2006 chrysler 300c
The 300 has the same trunk size as the Charger and Challenger, you have enough room for 2 12s, but don't really need more than 2 8s or 10s. I'm running 2 Sundown 8s in a 2010 300C.
Would have been way better with one of the subs
$1000 for a pre fab box 😂😂😂😂😂 the sundowns gonna tear that box apart 😂😂😂😂😂
You can't have shops doing your boxes. They don't do 200 percent effort into it like people who actually dedicate themselves to doing the actual boxes.
Or add more power. Don’t need a huge box to get loud when you gonna push the subs 😂
The main thing they saying is get lowwwwww,not getting loud..that's why he said they not like us!!!
@@anthonywashington9731it broke the taillight out? Rear window seal all fucked up. I didn’t sell him the subs I built it around what he said he had. He also knew he didn’t have enough space. Also use to have 2 huge agm batteries in there and the amp was on the back of the box. Box also didn’t break he was unloading in an dropped it on the bolt terminals so doing a decent number with a broke side baffle. The edge never broke it cracked the board in the center.
@@boxd_up8362so you are the guy that messaged MBE ,that built that enclosure..he showed you where you was wrong..basically you got fact checked....you wad the 4th person the customer came too....just say no if it don't build something just cause u can.
Do your own research people. Find out what subs you really have
Shady, just like the Radio shop in Wichita Ks smh
Dawg, you doing to much. You've already proved your point, just fix the shit for the man!
F a box, if that man wants lows and trunk space he needs 2 18s in an IB setup
those would crack in a sealed on that salt
Damn!!!!! 1200$$$$ did better work out of CC back in the 90,s.
damn. I might need you to build me a box. Im buying an 07 Tahoe tomorrow and I have a sundown sa 12 v2 subwoofer in a prefab box sitting in storage with a rockford fosgate 1500 amp ready to go in tahoe
Get rid of the SA. You can go with one X in that Tahoe and be SLAMMING and still have plenty of space for groceries.
@@jasonsmith9161 getting that one x will have to wait. this tahoe needs lots of work. needs a new hood, new fenders, new dashboard, new weatherstripping, they sticker bombed all the windows so it needs to be retinted. they had this tahoe squatted at one point in its life. they left on half of the lowering kit so i had to order new lowering springs and shocks for the rear. the front has 2" drop spindles but still looks too high in the front. the seats need to be redone. the carpet is all stained. they drilled holes in the trim pieces on the dash. i did get a good deal on it tho. ima make it right
I got 6.3cuft with those dims.
Thats gross. You have to subtract the port area, double baffle and subwoofer displacement to get net internal volume.
4.9 cubic ft total volume taking concideration the double baffle and thickness of wood. 29(26.75) 14 (12.5) 27(25.5) all numbers are the actual internal measurements.
@PoppaTinstall- Thats gross external cu. ft. The net internal= 3.34 Cu. Ft. So each 12" sundown subwoofer, is getting 1.67 cu. Ft. Net! Sundown recommends 2.5 cu. Ft. Net. This enclosure would be about the right Net cu. Ft., for 2- 10" X's, ZV5's, or ZV6's.
@@marcos-ut7mq- Then subtract 1.1 cu. Ft for the port, & .5 cu. Ft. for the 2-12" basket displacements. So 4.9- 1.6 cu. Ft.= 3.3 cu. Ft. Net.
There is no way that is tuned to 32 that port would need to be about 40” long and it’s NOWHERE NEAR enough port area
I wanna see tony Baker do a mbe parody 😅
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Wouldn’t inverting the subs help?
Not if he 1.5 cubes shy of recommended
They sold that man to much wood by volume, and theres the distortion right there mbe you know. They wanted the sale that's the bottom line.
That box is barley enough for one of them subs side note those rims are hideous
That level of lying the shop did is Criminal
The app doesn't work for newer phones, androids at least
MBE may be a good man....BUT HE DONT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXES. That box is perfect for those subs...it's just tuned alot higher than told. Those subs only require 2.5cuft each.
Peak on a meter equals box tuning???Everything after that is suspect
He doesn't know what he's talking about.
Yeah I thought it was common that your vehicle peaks higher than your box tune, I was confused when he said that. Not sure if he means it should be lower than 41, not exactly at 32 but maybe in the 30s. Either way I glad others noticed this.
Box tuning matters and I’m not saying that I disagree on the box being to little but the cars resident frequency plays a huge factor in the way the box performs. That’s the purpose of sound deader
He’s saying that box won’t hit 32 no matter what, with those subs. So he played the loudest lowest song he had to see how low
He could get. I promise he knows boxing tuning, SPL, SQ, SQL, he knows what he’s talking about, sometimes he may not articulate his meaning clearly but don’t sleep on his knowledge.
If you watch those frequencies from the time he turns up to music, you'll see that none of the bass notes are below 39hz.
Assuming the song actually has low bass getting to the amp, it shows that box isn't capable of playing low. It's like the box output rolls off below 39. So a box tuning around 42-43 hz maybe?
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I got 2xv3 12 I need box built one had build payed 500for it not doing it
straight robbery man, that is why I build my own.
You gotta make money some how bro. And wood aint cheep plus the power tools needed and the labor and wood glue and screws
Wish hed make a video explaijing calculations. Hesnthe only one who makes sense snd has truth to bsck it up
Invert them lol...😂😂 I can get the air space in that trunk ...but it work inverted and u can add to the port lol
He might not be able to raise his back seats with inverted subs
Man 1200 for that bs I would of Been in a cell after I left from that parking lot💯😂😂😂 ts so foul‼️🚮
Those some big 6.5 😅
0:31 they charging me 1800 for my box add carpet 2k and for wires 2500 f that
A SPL meter isn't gonna give you box tuning
How so? Can you explain how it doesn’t show you the loudest most efficient frequency?
The meter is reading best scores at 41Hz, in a box that's supposed to be tuned to 32Hz. Why isn't he getting his best scores at the claimed tuning frequency?
@whoareyou5722 The energy in the song may be all over the place. It may not even be playing strong at low frequencies.
Plus the acoustics of the vehicle are coupling with the box creating a new peak frequency.
To know the box tuning you need to run an impedance sweep with a DATS or watch the sub movement very closely as you play test tones. The cone will move the least at the box resonant frequency.
From the time he turned up that song, the lowest frequency I saw was 39hz. That's strange. Either the song has no low bass or the sub is unloading and producing weak output below 39hz. This is typically what you'd see from a box tuned around 43hz.
I hope his subsonic filter is turned down.
I wonder if his headunit is even playing low frequencies?
@@JasonWW2000 It could very well be the song he picked also.
Damm you could bought a prefab got better results 🤣
Id go with a single 15 run it at 1 ohm or 2 ohm ohm i think it would do good and he wouldnt have to buy new subs.
How much would you charge me to make me a box for a Lexus RX 340 2016 I want to do either 5 8s or 4 whatever you recommend that would be best
That's a prefab
i was gonna say that looks like a prefab they had layin around.....