6:07 Best evidence that the Irminsul is NOT older than the arrival of the Primordial One is how Apep reacts to Nahida. She treats her as part of the children of the Primordial One, says she's only been around a tiny amount of time and says she's dependent on the Primordial One for power and authority. How could she say all that if the Irminsul preceded the Primordial One?
Omg you're right! But the dependent one is also kinda becs navia has the authority over dendro. The authority stolen by celestia and later given her trough rucka...
wdym? I dont get why two things cant be true here: 1. She wouldnt exist without the heavens, that is a fact 2. She is also an avatar of Irminsul, that is also a fact The way I envision is it Irminsul was seized by the heavenly principles after defeating the sovereigns, and Rukkhadeveta came into being around the same time the rest of the human realm came into existence to serve as the caretaker of Irminsul, feel free to lmk if anything is wrong here. In order to write off Irminsul not existing before the arrival of the principles one would need to answer then where the "root" of the dendro element came from before Irminsul was created, and why it was moved to Irminsul.
Irminsul is a weird kettle of fish. It's named after god king Irmin (who I believe is playing the role of Phanes in the current samsara or was Phanes but none of that matters, anyways) Irmin was the one eyed King of Khaenri'ah's royal dynasty. It means grand pillar and it carries elemental energy and memories through its veins, the current orders imposed by the Principles, through the Leylines. Theoretically, it's possible that the Irminsul tree was not the creation of the Principles but is now under their control. It comes from how Azhdaha claims to have some command over the Leylines (which literally means "dragon root/vein") but the problem with that is Tsumi says in the three realms quest, that the Leylines belong to the human realm and help distill the concentration of elemental energy so that it's compatible with humanity. Tsumi doesn't completely contradict Azhdaha here as it could be a similar case of subjugation.. but that's speculation ultimately. Another example would be the Primordial Sea but that's connection to the Irminsul tree is even less obvious than the Leylines. Neuvillette describes Teyvat and filthy and a prison or words to that effect, so you gotta assume that things as we see them now is not as they once were. Irmin in the Shattered Halberd book connected the 9 worlds and this could have been done with the power of the Irminsul, Irmin in the Shattered Halberd is not just a god king but also a divine weapon/reliquary of some sort, so it's possible that the Irminsul represents one of the final vestiges of his work at least, prior to the heavens collapse.. It could be either or even both, we won't know until someone old enough talks about it, seemingly even Nahida doesn't know. Perhaps it's something that will be touched upon when we next see Apep although lets be real, straight up, that's not happening, so idk.
Think of it like this - Irminsul may have been there a long time, but its guardian spirits, Rukkadevata and Nahida, were created later, when it became clear that Irminsul needed protection. Or maybe Irminsul itself hatched the first of their kind from its memories of humanity. The problem with their kind, is that we don't even know if Rukkadevata is the first guardian spirit. It could be that the first time she shrunk, she was replaced too, like how everybody now believes Nahida did everything Rukkadevata did. I think Parable of the Tree describes at one such replacement, so now we have at least 4 potential avatars of Irminsul.
They're not guardian spirits. They are avatars. Of course the English team could have just picked a random word that is misleading but if they are avatars then that means they are the tree. They're not guarding the tree. They are the tree. So Apep is saying the tree isn't that old and is bound to the Primordial One. If the tree was basically the equivalent of the source of Dendro then Apep would be subservient to it. @@kotarouinugami1745
Lmao 10 Primordial One mentions in the first 5 minutes including 8 between 1:24 and 2:24. I was laughing so hard after the rapid fire mentions of the primordial one that my chest was hurting. Keep up the great content.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I just had a thought. When I have the time, I’ll try to go through all of your videos starting with the top 10 strongest in Genshin lore and count all primordial one mentions with effects (just saying the words won’t count and the replays of clips in your QnA also don’t count). This will definitely be a grand undertaking lmao. Edit: My playlist of all videos you uploaded starting from the top 10 is 106 videos long lmao. Luckily there are videos I know I can skip. But wow you’ve been uploading a lot and consistently in the last 6 months good job.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia can we be sure about that? What timeline specifies older than Morax at 6000 years? Couldn’t anything older than him have existed anywhere between 500-5000+ years? Maybe I should rewatch the video…
@@Bliss467We know that Morax is older than 6000 but that is due to the whatever the oldest recorded history of him is. That would mean that the stone tablet should be the first recording of him and that would date 6000 years being after the second who came battled the Primordial one. How long was the time between Primordial one descending and Morax descending? We don't know to be honest
Doesn’t Neuvillette’s vision story say that the Gods are fragments of the Primordial One who would eventually war with each other, or am I misremembering? Also, it’s interesting how each region aside from Inazuma has some kind of mythical God-King in each region. We have Decarabian in Mondstadt, Zhongli in Liyue, Deshiret in Sumeru, and Remus in Fontaine
I think that Primordial One and his descendants could just create new gods by splitting like an amoeba, kind of like oceanids do. So Istaroth was Thousand Winds, and when she felt the need to take care of a tribe in the frozen tundra of Mondstadt, she split off a thread of herself, and the thread became Venti. While a few other gods have different origins. We know what Nahida and Egeria were made from. Orobashi was probably just a really strong adeptus, that is, an animal who trained a lot. Andrius was like that too, but he ate somebody else (an evil squirrel from Boar Princess?) and that caused him to get stronger and go berserk.
Enjou says there were no demon gods before the Seelie were nerfed. Goddess of Flowers is not a demon god, but a Seelie. Seelie arrived with the Primordial One and are essentially angels. They are more powerful than demon gods by a long way. Even after being nerfed the GoF is far more powerful than Deshret for example. Sometimes the text refers to these type of beings as "divine" instead of demon-gods. The Celestials have a higher tier of energy compared to the demon gods who only have elemental energy. As Skirk says that difference is huge. Well Apep says the same thing of course - hence her searching for higher tier energy. We do get told an account of three demon gods being "born". namely Andrius, Egeria and Focalors. In each case the creature that becomes a demon god had already existed and they are promoted to become a demon god. We don't get told about who does it. In the case of Focalors it may be that becoming the Archon and receiving the gnosis is enough to be promoted to demon god. This would also explain Venti. In the case of Egeria and Andrius they are probably promoted by a Shade. Thus it is most likely that for a while one or more Shades just went around Teyvat promoting creatures or things into demon-gods until there were something like 72 of them. I don't know why people ever thought Zhongli was special (let alone Guizhong). The word "descended" doesn't mean coming down from the sky. Plenty of different people are said to have descended but nobody ever seriously tries to say that anyone who has had the word used in connection with them must be some kind of higher tier divine being. Just Zhongli. The Remurian Historian places Deshret before Remus and Remus before Zhongli. Zhongli never saw the three moons regardless of what folklore books (that themselves tell you they are ahistoric) claim. I don't know why people love to take literally books that deliberately say they are not literal. I mean that's a contradiction in terms. If you think those books are true then the part that says they aren't true must be true too. And does anyone still talk about "Moon Sisters?" They are myth. The Irminsul avatars do seem like they could be an odd case but they are probably the same as anything else with successive Dendro gods becoming promoted due to the gnosis.
what do u mean the moon sisters are a myth lmfao, why u hate that book david johnson also does the chinese text specify demon gods? cause its worth pointing out the shades also have demons in the ars goetia despite not being from the human realm (astarte and asmodeus)
Does it matter if we know what Zhongli knew or saw of them.. We know of their existence because they were the ones the Seelie would report to, the 3 moons and the Seelie Ancestor? They adorned the halls of heavens and their courts as heralds and would sing the praises of the moon and deliver that which was decreed by the daughters of song and prose, these were the three moons Aria, Sonnet and Canon, the master weavers of the fates (presumably: life, memories and death.) Some theories mark these entities as shades but idk, it's possible they predate the shades even imo.
On that basis Amy is also in the Ars Goetia. There's a lot of real world name variants close to Istaroth and Astarte isn't that close. The wiki for the Ars Goestia lists six variants, none of them being Istaroth. Then you can get into variants based on Azothoth (Cthulhu mythos) and Thot (Egyptian mythos). Also Asmoday was never released and (like the 6 pygmies) never will be released at this point. Neither is Paimon meant to be Ars Goetia since it's an anagram. But at the end of the day they may not have been all that bothered about the distinction. It doesn't really matter since there's no possible confusion that Istaroth is a regular god. ----------------------------------- Moon Sister references all come from fictional books that say they are fictional and the legends contradict each other (some say 2 are dead, some say 3). Anyway since Fontaine people just stopped talking about them, thank demon-god. @@DawitsLookingforEmilia
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaactually 1 thing he said makes sense that nabu malikata could be stronger than elemental gods as power of khvarena was created by nabu malikata and it seemed to have power to literally cleanse abyssal filth so far we know only celestial power can ability to cleanse it source : rene's investigation notes tells that khvarena is opposing to abyss and both abyssal and khvarena power are different from elemental powers . they have their own will and what was nabu malikata made of from light the celestial element that flowed through eyes of creator ( shade of life) unlike egeria who was made by shade of life without any outside elements it makes sense why archons struggled to cleanse abyssal filth so much compared to nabu malikata's khvarena power only abyssal filth is capable of dyeing zhongli's pillars black rukkhadevata had to use up all of her power to cleanse forbidden knowledge and even sacrifice herself
I can't watch rn but just gonna comment because I can 😂 I'll edit this after in case it's covered but my thoughts are that the demon gods either were created during the 2nd who came's war [whether that was caused because the 2nd who came wanted to wage war, it was a inescapable consequence of a descender coming, or it just so happened there was war that happened when the 2nd came like just a coincidence] It would make sense to me of the gods were once humans or in general beings that ascended to Godhood to be soldiers in a war and then were leftovers post-war. Maybe it's a rebirth type of situation and in which case - Zhongli being 6k years old might be how old his ascended/descended form is? Which then they might have needed to weed them out with the archon war once they realized it would be impossible for their "plans for humanity" to continue with as many gods walking doing as they pleased such as causing mayhem. But idk I'm just some low-level plebian 😂
tbh I considered that descension might differ from actual age, but once the solar vermillion set mentioned that zhongli would have been young, i just decided to cast it aside. but ya it could be
huh coulda sworn i edited that out. wasent censoring, i just made those noises out of frustration cause i kept messing up while recording that sentence lol
1:17 Not sure why everyone assumes the Shades fought against the Sovereigns. To me that's like turning up for a fight as Voltron and then deciding to split into 5 mecha lions. It's clearly a downgrade. I assume the Primordial One took them all out all by itself. Once the fighting was over the Shades are created.
what is that analogy lmfao. The shades were created during the start of the period of "when the doves held branches" whilst the war with the sovereigns was "40 years after the held branches" suggesting they were crafted before the end of the war
Now I'm curious about where you would fit Istaroth. Even more with the implications that Istaroth was the god of time and all of that, and possibly a shade too, yet with enough presence on Teyvat both in areas like Mondstadt and somewhat Inazuma, but also in "sunken" areas like Enkanomiya.
I think that an interesting topic to talk about could be the possibility of the Travelers being Akivili, who split himself into two beings to travel the mortal realms, as the personification of discovery and exploration. It would explain them apparently being older than the stars, and could maybe tie in with some loose ends with the Hexenzirkel and Venti, such as their knowledge of Kpop and the first Joestar, Jesus himself.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Yeah fair enough. I kinda pictured it as Akivili sealing his power in order to walk among mortals as a human, similar to Zhongli, and that that is why he split into two. Crackhead idea, I know, but you're the best person I know of who knows what to do with crackheads.
Serious question: if Hoyo would give you the chance to use only one of your many eldritch god pics used so far innyoir videos to picture the 📢 Primordial One 📢, which would you want it to be?
I might be wrong but wasn't Egeria created right after the hydro dragon died to replace him. She just couldn't leave the primordial sea. Therefore shouldn't she be as old as the others as well?
off topic,but i think arlecchino is a reference/inspiration from holy mother of hua/huayue sanniang,only this time the holy mother of hua nickname is 'father' not 'mother',rather than have her own kid(liu chenxiang),she have multiple kids thats not from her own blood,and rather than having a light color feminine clothing,she more darker tomboyish looking(which..is hot),though maybe i'm overthinking this(i wonder if arlecchino is a daddy's girl for pierro🤔).also, interestingly i cant find anything about what sanshengmu is a goddess of,th closest is she is a goddess of love who wants freedom and fight against imperial power and theocracy,which is funny since Arlecchino is by childe and hat guy is a control freak... though one thing for sure,is that huayue sanniang and arlecchino have a thing with kids...oh and other reason because sanshengmu use a lotus lantern aka fire, like arlecchino.
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i mean...if genshin would later made official couples(most probably not) in natlan or snezhnaya,i mean it fits,if arlecchino is genshin's huayue sanniang,then Pierro is her daddy(biological dad) AND her type of man(the scholarly man type)
their was another god name decarabian of mondstadt im sure that god have a hidden lore of this game and i really like "the primordial one a progenitor god hailing from beyond the star"
Arent the archons just spirits given god hood, god furina used to be an undime basically and was made the next hydro archon by the previous one so its stands to reason a similar thing happened to the other archons
differs based on god, we dont know how focalors went from oceanid to god, that was never explained. someone like venti accrued peoples faiths, scarmouche became a god through science, and some like Rex Lapis seem to have always been a god
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia but thay look like same even both interested in machanisam and both have same heir 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠 i sendrone that girl no 8th harbinger
it would be funny if this lore came out to be made up the true creatos of Teyvat . i really can"t remmeber the exat name of the temple but in one of these you Find the Tree and a Moth Sorround by flame and a DNA string . this symbole was the Icon of Flame moth or better known as the 13 Mantis Soldiers of Flamechasers . Mantis Stands for MAssive Neo techonolgy augmented Soldiers .13 People who there altered with Honkai beast genes in PE . even more if you look a Certain statues in Game you will Acutally Sees a Flame chaser . Aponia to be exact
Wait, I don’t get it wasn’t the three moon sisters older than the primordial one and was ruling even before the dragon sovereigns ruled over teyvat and it specifically says that the primordial one arrived and then created humanity with his four shades I know for a fact that the three moons sisters ruled over a civilization and a race of the seelie and one of these seelie fell in love with a man a night, so if the priority one and humanity came after the dragon sovereigns wouldn’t mean that humanity existed before the primordial one arrived
I think descension doesn't have anything to do with birth. Also I think the likes of Zhongli, Guizhong and Deshret weren't less older that any selie, Cause Zhongli has memories of Celestia when he still live there, except Deshret I don't know why he has amnesia Also Selies where creations of te moonsisters which is also the oldest heavenborn gods. Heavenborn gods are probably older than selies. I think to me atleast the rankings were 1. Zhongli, Guizhong, and Deshret 2. Nabu Malikata 3. Egeria, and Rukhadevata 4. Remus.
I listen to your videos while trying to sleep. Can you imagine me in my 10th dream shitting my pants on 1:23 hoping im not going to die😂 P.S. l was like: screw you Dawit, you got me this time...
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia The Archons are often referred to as gods, yet their power actually comes from a fraction of an elemental sovereign that has been stolen, and even the primordial one had to defeat the dragon king to become the god of Teyvat. This means that originally they had comparable magnitudes of power. Consequently the term "divine" here is either applicable to both, or is meaningless. Nevermind that since the primordial one is alien to Teyvat, so it is probably the first descender, which means it was not by any means divine by Teyvat standards until it rewrote the laws of Teyvat to be officially a god. Like giving yourself a doctorate.
@@Bliss467 In this case the primordial one can by definition not be a god, since divine is a synonyme of godly, and as a completely unknown alien entity, had zero connection to teyvat.
@@yadakakadu I think your amazement of the Sovreigns obliterates your judgement on the rest of the lore, and you're yet to ask youself with what kind of power did the PO subdue the Seven Sovreigns that they had to get back with abyssal power to try overthrow his order ? . "The Archons are often referred to as gods, yet their power actually comes from a fraction of an elemental sovereign that has been stolen"... Where does it say that it's "But a fraction" ? I've seen this headcanon everywhere and I am still looking for the source to no avail. That's merely extrapolating the case of Egeria to the other Gods. To get back to your point, some Godly beings such as the Goddess of Flowers and Morax and his Adepti are known to have powers besides their "Elemetal" powers, namely the power of the Khvarena associated with Nabu Malikata who was a Seelie, and Adeptal power that stem form enlightement in the case of Zhongli who is presented as the Prime of Adepti, who are respectively purifying and terraforming powers and abilities to this day that do not directly stem from to the elements.... I have yet to see these two powers associated with any of the Dragons, if any, they're sole providence of the Gods.
We don't believe in gods. WE only believe in the PRIMORDIAL ONE Descended from the heavens, Being from Nothingness Creator of Life Witness of the Stars Render of Death Many have built towers and bridges, Pursue divinity, revel in arrogance, challenged the high heavens in arrogation. in HIS eyes we are mere ants, to be crushed beneath HIS feet. Yet with HIS mercy HE merely gazes upon our world. Let the Pillars fall unto humanity and the cabal of the lesser gods be shattered. For we call on our true FATHER. Beings of Teyvat will kneel in HIS Majesty. The wheel of fate, the tree of wisdom and the usurper on the sky shall be no longer. For We will all embrace HIS neverending compassion forevermore. - Mysterious Transcript found on a camp in Mt. Montaigne, NorthEast of Fontaine City.
Gonna be real here... I don't think the gods are even actually gods. Not even the Primordial One. The people of Teyvat just don't know any better. They're all-powerful immortal beings from the sky? Must be a god! I think a bunch of humans from another world stole Nibelung's genesis pearl, which basically functioned as some wish-granting philosopher's stone macguffin, and used it to remake a world for themselves to rule over (plus becoming immortal and establishing a bunch of random rules).
@@Dimebag0069 - a lot of clues in the game suggest this is the case. Also, if you look at Hoyo's very first game (from well before they were even Hoyo), Legend of Saha, a LOT of stuff in both Genshin and Honkai are directly drawn from it. One of the key plot points is that the gods in that game were humans who had gained immortality.
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The Primordial One Mentioned 🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🗣🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
these emojis lmfao
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A Progenitor God Hailing From Beyond The Stars 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️📣📣📣📣📣📣
It kills me every time cause it's always a different pic of the PRIMORDIAL ONE 📢📢📢🔥🔥
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Lmao! 😂😂😂
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It would explain why Zhongli would simp so hard for her. He wanted to be the first to mess with a true God. Smash ultimate
aint seen u in a min and this is what u say LMAO
Marcus being early? Bolluks
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6:07 Best evidence that the Irminsul is NOT older than the arrival of the Primordial One is how Apep reacts to Nahida. She treats her as part of the children of the Primordial One, says she's only been around a tiny amount of time and says she's dependent on the Primordial One for power and authority. How could she say all that if the Irminsul preceded the Primordial One?
Omg you're right! But the dependent one is also kinda becs navia has the authority over dendro. The authority stolen by celestia and later given her trough rucka...
wdym? I dont get why two things cant be true here:
1. She wouldnt exist without the heavens, that is a fact
2. She is also an avatar of Irminsul, that is also a fact
The way I envision is it Irminsul was seized by the heavenly principles after defeating the sovereigns, and Rukkhadeveta came into being around the same time the rest of the human realm came into existence to serve as the caretaker of Irminsul, feel free to lmk if anything is wrong here.
In order to write off Irminsul not existing before the arrival of the principles one would need to answer then where the "root" of the dendro element came from before Irminsul was created, and why it was moved to Irminsul.
Irminsul is a weird kettle of fish. It's named after god king Irmin (who I believe is playing the role of Phanes in the current samsara or was Phanes but none of that matters, anyways) Irmin was the one eyed King of Khaenri'ah's royal dynasty. It means grand pillar and it carries elemental energy and memories through its veins, the current orders imposed by the Principles, through the Leylines. Theoretically, it's possible that the Irminsul tree was not the creation of the Principles but is now under their control. It comes from how Azhdaha claims to have some command over the Leylines (which literally means "dragon root/vein") but the problem with that is Tsumi says in the three realms quest, that the Leylines belong to the human realm and help distill the concentration of elemental energy so that it's compatible with humanity. Tsumi doesn't completely contradict Azhdaha here as it could be a similar case of subjugation.. but that's speculation ultimately.
Another example would be the Primordial Sea but that's connection to the Irminsul tree is even less obvious than the Leylines.
Neuvillette describes Teyvat and filthy and a prison or words to that effect, so you gotta assume that things as we see them now is not as they once were.
Irmin in the Shattered Halberd book connected the 9 worlds and this could have been done with the power of the Irminsul, Irmin in the Shattered Halberd is not just a god king but also a divine weapon/reliquary of some sort, so it's possible that the Irminsul represents one of the final vestiges of his work at least, prior to the heavens collapse..
It could be either or even both, we won't know until someone old enough talks about it, seemingly even Nahida doesn't know.
Perhaps it's something that will be touched upon when we next see Apep although lets be real, straight up, that's not happening, so idk.
Think of it like this - Irminsul may have been there a long time, but its guardian spirits, Rukkadevata and Nahida, were created later, when it became clear that Irminsul needed protection. Or maybe Irminsul itself hatched the first of their kind from its memories of humanity.
The problem with their kind, is that we don't even know if Rukkadevata is the first guardian spirit. It could be that the first time she shrunk, she was replaced too, like how everybody now believes Nahida did everything Rukkadevata did.
I think Parable of the Tree describes at one such replacement, so now we have at least 4 potential avatars of Irminsul.
They're not guardian spirits. They are avatars. Of course the English team could have just picked a random word that is misleading but if they are avatars then that means they are the tree. They're not guarding the tree. They are the tree.
So Apep is saying the tree isn't that old and is bound to the Primordial One.
If the tree was basically the equivalent of the source of Dendro then Apep would be subservient to it.
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The PRIMORDIAL ONE is so goated that he can’t be captivated by only one picture
amen,it is both none of the pictures and all of the pictures
The first gods are the devs because we keep CURSING them . Wait we are khaenrians ????
khaenriahn? im reporting u to celestia !
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Sure , you have archons we have a Rhinedottir . Oh and a toothless dragon
Primordial Horror vs The Crackhead Dragon King
u seen that scream, good lord
Funny enough, your primordial one bit has helped me understand the lore better because it makes me remember them lol
LEARNING IS FUN?
You've been using these lovecraftian images for Phanes so many times I'm starting to believe thats how he really looks like
u and i will both be saddened when its revealed to be a twink
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia oh please hoyo dont--- 😭
Phanes when you fight him as a boss: like Dawit's images.
Phanes when he joins your party: an androgynous boy like Venti.
Lmao 10 Primordial One mentions in the first 5 minutes including 8 between 1:24 and 2:24. I was laughing so hard after the rapid fire mentions of the primordial one that my chest was hurting. Keep up the great content.
AHAHA
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I just had a thought. When I have the time, I’ll try to go through all of your videos starting with the top 10 strongest in Genshin lore and count all primordial one mentions with effects (just saying the words won’t count and the replays of clips in your QnA also don’t count). This will definitely be a grand undertaking lmao. Edit: My playlist of all videos you uploaded starting from the top 10 is 106 videos long lmao. Luckily there are videos I know I can skip. But wow you’ve been uploading a lot and consistently in the last 6 months good job.
Not only learning new lore but also new words, DAWIT NEVER DISAPPOINTS
yes the learning experience is what brings us all together here
Since we know how old Morax is, then that gives us a solid period of time during which the great civilizations rose and fell
it gives us a decent age of the entire world of teyvat, this whole world is like 8-10,000 years old lmfao
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia can we be sure about that? What timeline specifies older than Morax at 6000 years? Couldn’t anything older than him have existed anywhere between 500-5000+ years? Maybe I should rewatch the video…
@@Bliss467We know that Morax is older than 6000 but that is due to the whatever the oldest recorded history of him is.
That would mean that the stone tablet should be the first recording of him and that would date 6000 years being after the second who came battled the Primordial one.
How long was the time between Primordial one descending and Morax descending? We don't know to be honest
THE PRIMORDIAL ONE IS SO BACK BABY
OH YA?
Doesn’t Neuvillette’s vision story say that the Gods are fragments of the Primordial One who would eventually war with each other, or am I misremembering?
Also, it’s interesting how each region aside from Inazuma has some kind of mythical God-King in each region. We have Decarabian in Mondstadt, Zhongli in Liyue, Deshiret in Sumeru, and Remus in Fontaine
i swear they gotta be hiding something in inazuma, are we really never getting an expansion to it ever again?
I think it mentioned that they were 'driven to devour each other'
Clearly the the gods come from th primordial ones toenail clippings 😂🤷♂️😭
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Why are you laughing? *It’s true.*
damn bro i thought that was a dick emoji. i had squint my eyes real hard to see what looks like the nose of a neanderthal
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia it works wither way😈
I think that Primordial One and his descendants could just create new gods by splitting like an amoeba, kind of like oceanids do.
So Istaroth was Thousand Winds, and when she felt the need to take care of a tribe in the frozen tundra of Mondstadt, she split off a thread of herself, and the thread became Venti.
While a few other gods have different origins. We know what Nahida and Egeria were made from. Orobashi was probably just a really strong adeptus, that is, an animal who trained a lot. Andrius was like that too, but he ate somebody else (an evil squirrel from Boar Princess?) and that caused him to get stronger and go berserk.
Another day, another slay from you lol
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I assume “the PRIMORDIAL ONE” is your favorite phrase to say 😂😂 Its a meme 🔥🔥
idk i been liking bastard crackhead dragon king nibelung recently
Now I realized Decarabian's such a mystery. We know almost nothing about him.
we know a little, but he does indeed have some irregularities surrounding him
MY MAN! Keep this up and you will overtake Ashikai eventually ;>
Honestly deserves to pass Chill with Aster (IDK why I have beef with them)
queen ash? i wouldnt dare
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaWell her uploads are getting less and less frequent u wu
@@Zarozian The girl got University to worry about, cut her some slack lol
I want a compilation of The Best of The Primordial One lines this guy makes.
maybe one day
Enjou says there were no demon gods before the Seelie were nerfed. Goddess of Flowers is not a demon god, but a Seelie. Seelie arrived with the Primordial One and are essentially angels. They are more powerful than demon gods by a long way. Even after being nerfed the GoF is far more powerful than Deshret for example. Sometimes the text refers to these type of beings as "divine" instead of demon-gods. The Celestials have a higher tier of energy compared to the demon gods who only have elemental energy. As Skirk says that difference is huge. Well Apep says the same thing of course - hence her searching for higher tier energy.
We do get told an account of three demon gods being "born". namely Andrius, Egeria and Focalors. In each case the creature that becomes a demon god had already existed and they are promoted to become a demon god. We don't get told about who does it. In the case of Focalors it may be that becoming the Archon and receiving the gnosis is enough to be promoted to demon god. This would also explain Venti. In the case of Egeria and Andrius they are probably promoted by a Shade.
Thus it is most likely that for a while one or more Shades just went around Teyvat promoting creatures or things into demon-gods until there were something like 72 of them.
I don't know why people ever thought Zhongli was special (let alone Guizhong). The word "descended" doesn't mean coming down from the sky. Plenty of different people are said to have descended but nobody ever seriously tries to say that anyone who has had the word used in connection with them must be some kind of higher tier divine being. Just Zhongli.
The Remurian Historian places Deshret before Remus and Remus before Zhongli. Zhongli never saw the three moons regardless of what folklore books (that themselves tell you they are ahistoric) claim. I don't know why people love to take literally books that deliberately say they are not literal. I mean that's a contradiction in terms. If you think those books are true then the part that says they aren't true must be true too. And does anyone still talk about "Moon Sisters?" They are myth.
The Irminsul avatars do seem like they could be an odd case but they are probably the same as anything else with successive Dendro gods becoming promoted due to the gnosis.
what do u mean the moon sisters are a myth lmfao, why u hate that book david johnson
also does the chinese text specify demon gods? cause its worth pointing out the shades also have demons in the ars goetia despite not being from the human realm (astarte and asmodeus)
Does it matter if we know what Zhongli knew or saw of them.. We know of their existence because they were the ones the Seelie would report to, the 3 moons and the Seelie Ancestor? They adorned the halls of heavens and their courts as heralds and would sing the praises of the moon and deliver that which was decreed by the daughters of song and prose, these were the three moons Aria, Sonnet and Canon, the master weavers of the fates (presumably: life, memories and death.) Some theories mark these entities as shades but idk, it's possible they predate the shades even imo.
Now I'm imagining Paimon going around ancient Teyvat, and giving people mean nicknames from Ars Goetia. Because she was in her chuuni phase.
On that basis Amy is also in the Ars Goetia.
There's a lot of real world name variants close to Istaroth and Astarte isn't that close. The wiki for the Ars Goestia lists six variants, none of them being Istaroth. Then you can get into variants based on Azothoth (Cthulhu mythos) and Thot (Egyptian mythos). Also Asmoday was never released and (like the 6 pygmies) never will be released at this point. Neither is Paimon meant to be Ars Goetia since it's an anagram.
But at the end of the day they may not have been all that bothered about the distinction. It doesn't really matter since there's no possible confusion that Istaroth is a regular god.
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Moon Sister references all come from fictional books that say they are fictional and the legends contradict each other (some say 2 are dead, some say 3). Anyway since Fontaine people just stopped talking about them, thank demon-god.
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@@DawitsLookingforEmiliaactually 1 thing he said makes sense that nabu malikata could be stronger than elemental gods
as power of khvarena was created by nabu malikata and it seemed to have power to literally cleanse abyssal filth
so far we know only celestial power can ability to cleanse it
source : rene's investigation notes tells that khvarena is opposing to abyss
and both abyssal and khvarena power are different from elemental powers . they have their own will
and what was nabu malikata made of
from light the celestial element that flowed through eyes of creator ( shade of life)
unlike egeria who was made by shade of life without any outside elements
it makes sense why archons struggled to cleanse abyssal filth so much compared to nabu malikata's khvarena power
only abyssal filth is capable of dyeing zhongli's pillars black
rukkhadevata had to use up all of her power to cleanse forbidden knowledge and even sacrifice herself
I can't watch rn but just gonna comment because I can 😂
I'll edit this after in case it's covered but my thoughts are that the demon gods either were created during the 2nd who came's war [whether that was caused because the 2nd who came wanted to wage war, it was a inescapable consequence of a descender coming, or it just so happened there was war that happened when the 2nd came like just a coincidence]
It would make sense to me of the gods were once humans or in general beings that ascended to Godhood to be soldiers in a war and then were leftovers post-war. Maybe it's a rebirth type of situation and in which case - Zhongli being 6k years old might be how old his ascended/descended form is?
Which then they might have needed to weed them out with the archon war once they realized it would be impossible for their "plans for humanity" to continue with as many gods walking doing as they pleased such as causing mayhem. But idk I'm just some low-level plebian 😂
tbh I considered that descension might differ from actual age, but once the solar vermillion set mentioned that zhongli would have been young, i just decided to cast it aside. but ya it could be
the primo- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA- ling from beyond the stars.
AGHAGAHA
I was waiting
u got the schedule down pat huh
@@DawitsLookingforEmiliamy nigga you have too much faith in me I forgot what day it was.
I was waiting more than you
:D
I feel like Nibelung will be a boss fight I just hope the addiction doesn’t rub off on the traveler 😅
LMFAO
Praimordial one is the sibling she went to teyvat when ather was going for a piss and in teyvat time works differently so meaby that is true
😂OMG LMAO, I love it when "The primordial one" appears in the text, and an edgy humanoid shows
You may run out of pictures at some point tho😅
i will never run out >:)
Dawit worships THE PRIMORDIAL ONE at this point
:D
5:28 what in the censoring was that?
huh coulda sworn i edited that out. wasent censoring, i just made those noises out of frustration cause i kept messing up while recording that sentence lol
1:17 Not sure why everyone assumes the Shades fought against the Sovereigns. To me that's like turning up for a fight as Voltron and then deciding to split into 5 mecha lions. It's clearly a downgrade. I assume the Primordial One took them all out all by itself. Once the fighting was over the Shades are created.
what is that analogy lmfao. The shades were created during the start of the period of "when the doves held branches" whilst the war with the sovereigns was "40 years after the held branches" suggesting they were crafted before the end of the war
Now I'm curious about where you would fit Istaroth. Even more with the implications that Istaroth was the god of time and all of that, and possibly a shade too, yet with enough presence on Teyvat both in areas like Mondstadt and somewhat Inazuma, but also in "sunken" areas like Enkanomiya.
istaroth was a shade
I think that an interesting topic to talk about could be the possibility of the Travelers being Akivili, who split himself into two beings to travel the mortal realms, as the personification of discovery and exploration. It would explain them apparently being older than the stars, and could maybe tie in with some loose ends with the Hexenzirkel and Venti, such as their knowledge of Kpop and the first Joestar, Jesus himself.
barring something extreme happened to akivili, theres no way an aeon is getting bitched in the way the travelers got sonned in the opening cutscene
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia Yeah fair enough. I kinda pictured it as Akivili sealing his power in order to walk among mortals as a human, similar to Zhongli, and that that is why he split into two. Crackhead idea, I know, but you're the best person I know of who knows what to do with crackheads.
YOO EARLY
whats up buttercup
Serious question: if Hoyo would give you the chance to use only one of your many eldritch god pics used so far innyoir videos to picture the 📢 Primordial One 📢, which would you want it to be?
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@@DawitsLookingforEmilia I knew it! 🤣 You even made a 5-hit close-up effect on this one in one of your latest videos (and it was amazing!)
1:23 The images keep getting better and better 😭😭
man i pray for a resemblance
I might be wrong but wasn't Egeria created right after the hydro dragon died to replace him. She just couldn't leave the primordial sea. Therefore shouldn't she be as old as the others as well?
we dont know when the hydro dragon died
Preparing myself spiritually and physically for more crazy dawit bars
crack is wack, but not cause im black, but because itll break ya nutsack
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia My eyes are tearing up, this verse goes so hard...
Trust me I'm stronger than all of them.
okie dokie artichokie
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia the rhyming is insane
off topic,but i think arlecchino is a reference/inspiration from holy mother of hua/huayue sanniang,only this time the holy mother of hua nickname is 'father' not 'mother',rather than have her own kid(liu chenxiang),she have multiple kids thats not from her own blood,and rather than having a light color feminine clothing,she more darker tomboyish looking(which..is hot),though maybe i'm overthinking this(i wonder if arlecchino is a daddy's girl for pierro🤔).also, interestingly i cant find anything about what sanshengmu is a goddess of,th closest is she is a goddess of love who wants freedom and fight against imperial power and theocracy,which is funny since Arlecchino is by childe and hat guy is a control freak... though one thing for sure,is that huayue sanniang and arlecchino have a thing with kids...oh and other reason because sanshengmu use a lotus lantern aka fire, like arlecchino.
"i wonder if arlecchino is a daddys girl for pierro" threw me off so hard lmfao i am crying
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia i mean...if genshin would later made official couples(most probably not) in natlan or snezhnaya,i mean it fits,if arlecchino is genshin's huayue sanniang,then Pierro is her daddy(biological dad) AND her type of man(the scholarly man type)
their was another god name decarabian of mondstadt im sure that god have a hidden lore of this game and i really like "the primordial one a progenitor god hailing from beyond the star"
LMAO
Arent the archons just spirits given god hood, god furina used to be an undime basically and was made the next hydro archon by the previous one so its stands to reason a similar thing happened to the other archons
differs based on god, we dont know how focalors went from oceanid to god, that was never explained. someone like venti accrued peoples faiths, scarmouche became a god through science, and some like Rex Lapis seem to have always been a god
Dawit tell me what if sendrone is guizhong 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅❤❤❤❤❤❤
sendrone bro ur fucking hilarious
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia but thay look like same even both interested in machanisam and both have same heir 🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠🫠 i sendrone that girl no 8th harbinger
@@eliteAnime_X sandrone is 7th lol
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia 7 th is wanderer but he not harbinger si yes she is 7 th😁😁😁😁😁
wanderer was 6 lol
it would be funny if this lore came out to be made up the true creatos of Teyvat . i really can"t remmeber the exat name of the temple but in one of these you Find the Tree and a Moth Sorround by flame and a DNA string . this symbole was the Icon of Flame moth or better known as the 13 Mantis Soldiers of Flamechasers . Mantis Stands for MAssive Neo techonolgy augmented Soldiers .13 People who there altered with Honkai beast genes in PE . even more if you look a Certain statues in Game you will Acutally Sees a Flame chaser . Aponia to be exact
Wait, I don’t get it wasn’t the three moon sisters older than the primordial one and was ruling even before the dragon sovereigns ruled over teyvat and it specifically says that the primordial one arrived and then created humanity with his four shades I know for a fact that the three moons sisters ruled over a civilization and a race of the seelie and one of these seelie fell in love with a man a night, so if the priority one and humanity came after the dragon sovereigns wouldn’t mean that humanity existed before the primordial one arrived
moon sisters are younger then primordial one
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia so how do they fit into the timeline?
I think descension doesn't have anything to do with birth.
Also I think the likes of Zhongli, Guizhong and Deshret weren't less older that any selie,
Cause Zhongli has memories of Celestia when he still live there, except Deshret I don't know why he has amnesia
Also Selies where creations of te moonsisters which is also the oldest heavenborn gods.
Heavenborn gods are probably older than selies.
I think to me atleast the rankings were
1. Zhongli, Guizhong, and Deshret
2. Nabu Malikata
3. Egeria, and Rukhadevata
4. Remus.
Idk zongli is said to be young when seeli race fall.
@@The_original_one by Who?
@@amieldelacruz7010 did you watch the video or not ?
Go watch it carefully
@@The_original_one nah I want to hear it from you
@@amieldelacruz7010 I not going to repeat anything from the same video we both watched
Primordial one!! *dramatic sound* 😂😂😂
NOW UR GETTING IT
Was waiting for 1:25
bwahaha
I swear the Primordial One jumpscare never gets old
oh it will
I listen to your videos while trying to sleep. Can you imagine me in my 10th dream shitting my pants on 1:23 hoping im not going to die😂
P.S. l was like: screw you Dawit, you got me this time...
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Correction, the first divine beings on Teyvat was the Dragon King and the elemental sovereigns.
divine means godly, dragons not godly
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia The Archons are often referred to as gods, yet their power actually comes from a fraction of an elemental sovereign that has been stolen, and even the primordial one had to defeat the dragon king to become the god of Teyvat. This means that originally they had comparable magnitudes of power. Consequently the term "divine" here is either applicable to both, or is meaningless. Nevermind that since the primordial one is alien to Teyvat, so it is probably the first descender, which means it was not by any means divine by Teyvat standards until it rewrote the laws of Teyvat to be officially a god. Like giving yourself a doctorate.
@@yadakakadu I don’t think “divine” is a measurement of power but a description of the relationship between the rulers and their subjects.
@@Bliss467 In this case the primordial one can by definition not be a god, since divine is a synonyme of godly, and as a completely unknown alien entity, had zero connection to teyvat.
@@yadakakadu I think your amazement of the Sovreigns obliterates your judgement on the rest of the lore, and you're yet to ask youself with what kind of power did the PO subdue the Seven Sovreigns that they had to get back with abyssal power to try overthrow his order ? .
"The Archons are often referred to as gods, yet their power actually comes from a fraction of an elemental sovereign that has been stolen"...
Where does it say that it's "But a fraction" ? I've seen this headcanon everywhere and I am still looking for the source to no avail. That's merely extrapolating the case of Egeria to the other Gods.
To get back to your point, some Godly beings such as the Goddess of Flowers and Morax and his Adepti are known to have powers besides their "Elemetal" powers, namely the power of the Khvarena associated with Nabu Malikata who was a Seelie, and Adeptal power that stem form enlightement in the case of Zhongli who is presented as the Prime of Adepti, who are respectively purifying and terraforming powers and abilities to this day that do not directly stem from to the elements.... I have yet to see these two powers associated with any of the Dragons, if any, they're sole providence of the Gods.
We don't believe in gods.
WE only believe in the PRIMORDIAL ONE
Descended from the heavens,
Being from Nothingness Creator of Life
Witness of the Stars Render of Death
Many have built towers and bridges,
Pursue divinity, revel in arrogance, challenged the high heavens in arrogation.
in HIS eyes we are mere ants, to be crushed beneath HIS feet. Yet with HIS mercy HE merely gazes upon our world.
Let the Pillars fall unto humanity and the cabal of the lesser gods be shattered.
For we call on our true FATHER.
Beings of Teyvat will kneel in HIS Majesty.
The wheel of fate, the tree of wisdom and the usurper on the sky shall be no longer.
For We will all embrace HIS neverending compassion forevermore.
- Mysterious Transcript found on a camp in Mt. Montaigne, NorthEast of Fontaine City.
beautiful, just like u
smash next question
bro LMFAOO. i respect it
Gonna be real here...
I don't think the gods are even actually gods.
Not even the Primordial One.
The people of Teyvat just don't know any better. They're all-powerful immortal beings from the sky? Must be a god!
I think a bunch of humans from another world stole Nibelung's genesis pearl, which basically functioned as some wish-granting philosopher's stone macguffin, and used it to remake a world for themselves to rule over (plus becoming immortal and establishing a bunch of random rules).
bite ur tongue !
That would be so fucking stupid.
@@Dimebag0069 - a lot of clues in the game suggest this is the case.
Also, if you look at Hoyo's very first game (from well before they were even Hoyo), Legend of Saha, a LOT of stuff in both Genshin and Honkai are directly drawn from it. One of the key plot points is that the gods in that game were humans who had gained immortality.
I’m extremely late because of Warframe
is that the f2p game? is that war hammer? i don wanna bing it
@@DawitsLookingforEmilia the f2p game
Guoba is still the strongest 😂😂😂
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OMG UNKNOWN GOD HAI :D
let me guess you use canva! for your thumbnails muahhahahh you can hide nothing from me 🫡😎
can i hide my feelings for u?
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