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1:25 Not just a body, but a man's career. If I remember correctly, that guy was supposed to be drafted for an NBA team, but was dropped after the Olympics. Correction: He did get drafted by the Knicks in '99, which made NY fans upset as they chose him over Artest, but he never received a call back from them after the Olympics.
Coaching was the problem. The talent was there, but talent alone wont take you too far. Argentina was actually capable in terms of closing the gap as far as talent goes but they were much more coordinated on both ends of the court = win.
The talent was garbage Richard Jefferson never made an allstar team played the 4th most minutes Stephon Marbury lead the team in assist lol with 3.4 Only 1 guy on the team ave a block a game No defense shot happy no passing inefficient Iverson leads the team in minutes and brick shots shooting 36% Shawn marion was a good nba player GOOD NOT GREAT But was 1 of the top 5 minutes grabbers
What happened between 1992 and 2004? Why were international players in 2004 better than those in 1992? This is a very stupid explanation. As a matter of fact, the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia in the 1980s had better team than any international teams that came after 1990.
Something never brought up is that this is the only year Reebok made USA basketball jerseys. At the time Reebok was Nike's biggest competitor. There is that famous story of Jordan draping an American flag over his Reebok jacket. The very next Olympics USA basketball switched to Nike and all the people who dropped out of Athens played in Beijing.
@@atlanta1290 listen to Steph Marburry He wanted the players to play his game not what suited them best. He wasn’t the only reason we didn’t win 8 straight golds but he was a big part of it
If u look at how they play against argentina on semi finals on that olympics , they cant break the zone defense of argentina they keep on passing some open shots to drive inside the basket which clearly didn’t work at all. The zone defense is giving them hard time bcus if u watch it they , cant shoot from the outside consistently
1) Roster contruction - didnt have reliable shooters - or anyone with international experience 2) Coaching selection - Brown didnt like young players 3) Coaching itself - Brown didnt correctly use the talent he was given
I bet he took 15 to 20 shots a game too. I've always said it's hard for nba teams to win with guys like Iverson, Isaiah Thomas, James Harden - the 1 dimensional high volume scorers. And I know Iverson got steals but he was not a good defender
@@TheStarsShineForYou Ηe most definitely NOT take 15 to 20 shots. IF you had ever watched the games, you wouldn't have anything to say about Iverson's performance in 2004 Athens. He was the only one who played with such energy, his effort every minute he was on the floor and he was the only player who penetrated and actually created mismatches off the dribble. You know he was 100times quicker than anyone else. IF you had watched the games, you would notice an extremely stale offensive passsing game, a slow transition against a million zones. The whole team didn't shoot well against these zones. Not only a player you personally wish to point out of the bunch. Especially one who bled for his country.
@@acceptpapara that's the thing about Iverson - every team he played on struggled to actually win and his fans ALWAYS point to his teammates and say they didn't do enough. With 1 dimensional high volume star scorers, it's just hard for the rest of the team to find their rhythm. They can only stand around or try to rebound while watching the 1 dimensional high volume scorer go 1v3 BTW I looked it up and Iverson took 11.3 shots per game in the 2004 olympics but that was most of any US player. 2nd was Stephon Marbury with 8.9
😂😂😂😂 before 1992 was olimpics and USA was dominating the game back then. The 2004 team had no knowledge of Olympic basketball. This team played vs a bunch of Olympic veterans like Puerto Rico.
DUNCAN WAS EJECTED CAUSE HE CANT PLAY WITHOUT SYSTEM. LUIS SCOLA IS JUST BETTER PLAYER. I FEEL SORRY FOR DERANGED PPL LIKE U BECAUSE HE WASA CAPTAIN AND GOT EJECTED IN MOST MATTER GAME CAUSE HE COULDNT STOP LUIS SCOLA
I think 04 team is one of the best teams but they didn't got a chance. A roster had Allen Iverson, Tim Duncan Stephon Marbury , Lamar Odom Shawn Marrion and Richard Jefferson and youngsters like Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony Amar'e Stoudemire and Emika Okafor. A mixture between elders and youngsters. They should have played a lot of matches after Americas FIBA. Coach Brown slaughtered them. Also I don't understand why Coach Brown didn't use Ben Wallace in defense , He coached Wallace with Detroit Pistons when the won their ring. Too shame AI didn't win the gold medal
@@oldschool4456 POOR COACHING ? WELL THAT MEAN LARRY BROWN IS 500X BETTER THAN PHIL; JACKSON CAUSE HE BEAT LAKERS WITHOUT ANY 75 MEMBERS VS KOBE SHAQ MALONE GLOVE. PONLY BAD COACH IS POPOVICH AND OVERRATED DUNCAN WHO WERE CAPTAIN AND COACH OF 2004 TEAM
I’ll agree that Coach Brown was a mismatch certainly with this particular roster. If Brown had his 04 Pistons there they probably would have won it all. Unselfish TEAM basketball will always win out over young guys just lookin to score. So yeah sub par roster and unpopular coach. Bad news.
This 2004 team exposed how much Tim Duncan needed Popp/Robinson/Parker/Manu and the spurs system. Can't believe some people argue that "Duncan is top 5 all time", but thend up losing to puerto rico by 19 points, lithunia (0 nba players), and argentina... Only non-gold medal for USA in history of the olympics.
@@ARG61292 If you actually watched the tournament, Lebroin was a bench player and only 18 years old. barely played 8 minnutes a game. Duncan literally fouled out in the 4th quarter of the semi final game against Argentina... He literally got abused by non-NBA players.
@@mart1n10601 he didn’t get abused at all. I think Duncan himself said that he wasn’t used to the FIBA rules and that the Euro players got away with a lot more than they allowed in the NBA. When you’re used to games being called one way and then they are called a totally different way, that’s hard to adjust to. The Euro players were allowed to be a lot more physical than what Duncan was used to
If I was the coach way back 2004, I would have chosen: 1.) Kobe 2.) Shaq 3.) Ben Wallace, 4.) Billups 5.) Marbury 6.) Iverson 7.) Paul Pierce 8.) Ray Allen 9.) Garnett 10.) Rasheed Wallace 11.) Richard Hamilton 12.) Jason Kidd
Just look at those players in the thumbnail, U need outside shooting. AI isnt that kinda player, and post up players are kinda useless because of the zone defense and they can guard the rim with an extra defender .its the guys fault who put that team together and Duncan isnt the greatest PF of all time. People are caught up in the Spurs success and wanna give all to Timmie. He was great, but he's not Barkley or Shaq in the paint. He's too soft of a player. Those other two dominated the paint and were the best player's on their fiba gold metal team.
@@dimelo58 I Know that. The 1984 USA basketball was the birth of the greatest player who will played Basketball. Stockton and Barkley didn't made the cut. That how pack it was. They destroyed the All stars NBA players and sweep the Olympic. 1960 the future Logo of The NBA and other legends played in that team. Since 1936 USA be wining gold. Only legit loses of USA was 2004 with Lebronze. USAB is full of history and memorable moments.
@@melazaconsabor2028 It’s a bit crazy to even bring lebron into the conversation when he was a rookie straight outta high school that barely got any minutes that year lol you are wild
@@dimelo58 Michael Jordan was coming out of college and play vs NBA all Star, assemble with Isaiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Sweep them 8-0 and then Sweep the Olympics 8-0. They Destroyed the Soviet Union. Watch some videos of 1984 USAB. This generation is excuses and blaming no accountability and acceptance.
They may not have grown exponentially but the 04 team was young & inexperienced, poorly coached and I think in a way way too cocky. Larry brown was the wrong choice and coach K should’ve been the guy since he’d been there and a lot of players respected him. Couple that with the Kobe scandal and guys like Shaq not wanting to go to Greece it was all a bad combo. They definitely fixed it.
Coaching to me is the number 1 reason they lost, if you can’t play free you wont perform to the best of your abilities.
This is Tim Duncan's worst part of his carreer.
There's also losing to the 8th seeded Memphis Grizzlies
Larry Brown is what happened. He wanted to play Shawn Marion instead of a young Bron
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if the 2003 team played in 2004 that would be a cake walk for us.
Now international teams got multiple nba all stars I bet by the time I'm old it's gonna be majority overseas players in the nba
they lost because the coaches didn’t use the babies on the team for just energy alone
1:25 Not just a body, but a man's career.
If I remember correctly, that guy was supposed to be drafted for an NBA team, but was dropped after the Olympics.
Correction: He did get drafted by the Knicks in '99, which made NY fans upset as they chose him over Artest, but he never received a call back from them after the Olympics.
No shooters… that 92 team had sooo much length that helped great defense. Most of the time the shortest player on the court was 6’6.
Coaching was the problem. The talent was there, but talent alone wont take you too far. Argentina was actually capable in terms of closing the gap as far as talent goes but they were much more coordinated on both ends of the court = win.
The talent was garbage
Richard Jefferson never made an allstar team played the 4th most minutes
Stephon Marbury lead the team in assist lol with 3.4
Only 1 guy on the team ave a block a game
No defense shot happy no passing inefficient Iverson leads the team in minutes and brick shots shooting 36%
Shawn marion was a good nba player GOOD NOT GREAT
But was 1 of the top 5 minutes grabbers
14 missed free throws don't help either
I want to say this. This 2004 team wasn’t the reason basketball expanded like it did today. That was 1992
Actually its the end of cold war, globalization, internet and so on
What happened between 1992 and 2004? Why were international players in 2004 better than those in 1992? This is a very stupid explanation. As a matter of fact, the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia in the 1980s had better team than any international teams that came after 1990.
proud of my puerto rican team, especially in 04 ❤️☺️
Something never brought up is that this is the only year Reebok made USA basketball jerseys. At the time Reebok was Nike's biggest competitor. There is that famous story of Jordan draping an American flag over his Reebok jacket. The very next Olympics USA basketball switched to Nike and all the people who dropped out of Athens played in Beijing.
Larry Brown was the main problem
Please explain? Tell us, how was Larry Brown the problem?
@@atlanta1290there was clearly a reason that a lot of the top players didn’t play. Just saying
@@GoBlue_yanks42 what were the reasons?
@@atlanta1290 listen to Steph Marburry
He wanted the players to play his game not what suited them best. He wasn’t the only reason we didn’t win 8 straight golds but he was a big part of it
@@GoBlue_yanks42 I heard Marbury speak about the 04 team. He took no accountability and blamed to coach Brown.
Noti gang 🙌🏾
04 them boys had their heads hanging on that stand
They had the I’m bout to throw this medal in the lake face
If u look at how they play against argentina on semi finals on that olympics , they cant break the zone defense of argentina they keep on passing some open shots to drive inside the basket which clearly didn’t work at all. The zone defense is giving them hard time bcus if u watch it they , cant shoot from the outside consistently
1) Roster contruction - didnt have reliable shooters - or anyone with international experience
2) Coaching selection - Brown didnt like young players
3) Coaching itself - Brown didnt correctly use the talent he was given
Allen Iverson shot 37FG% in those Olympic Games.
That’s regular for him
He def didn’t step up
I bet he took 15 to 20 shots a game too. I've always said it's hard for nba teams to win with guys like Iverson, Isaiah Thomas, James Harden - the 1 dimensional high volume scorers. And I know Iverson got steals but he was not a good defender
@@TheStarsShineForYou Ηe most definitely NOT take 15 to 20 shots. IF you had ever watched the games, you wouldn't have anything to say about Iverson's performance in 2004 Athens. He was the only one who played with such energy, his effort every minute he was on the floor and he was the only player who penetrated and actually created mismatches off the dribble. You know he was 100times quicker than anyone else. IF you had watched the games, you would notice an extremely stale offensive passsing game, a slow transition against a million zones. The whole team didn't shoot well against these zones. Not only a player you personally wish to point out of the bunch. Especially one who bled for his country.
@@acceptpapara that's the thing about Iverson - every team he played on struggled to actually win and his fans ALWAYS point to his teammates and say they didn't do enough. With 1 dimensional high volume star scorers, it's just hard for the rest of the team to find their rhythm. They can only stand around or try to rebound while watching the 1 dimensional high volume scorer go 1v3
BTW I looked it up and Iverson took 11.3 shots per game in the 2004 olympics but that was most of any US player. 2nd was Stephon Marbury with 8.9
😂😂😂😂 before 1992 was olimpics and USA was dominating the game back then. The 2004 team had no knowledge of Olympic basketball. This team played vs a bunch of Olympic veterans like Puerto Rico.
It’s O-l-y-m-p-I-c-s
I feel bad for TD, those 9 players who did not return for the olympics are straight up divas and have inflated egos
DUNCAN WAS EJECTED CAUSE HE CANT PLAY WITHOUT SYSTEM. LUIS SCOLA IS JUST BETTER PLAYER. I FEEL SORRY FOR DERANGED PPL LIKE U BECAUSE HE WASA CAPTAIN AND GOT EJECTED IN MOST MATTER GAME CAUSE HE COULDNT STOP LUIS SCOLA
@@PIP...33 Scola better than because of one game, are you a crack head?
I think 04 team is one of the best teams but they didn't got a chance. A roster had Allen Iverson, Tim Duncan Stephon Marbury , Lamar Odom Shawn Marrion and Richard Jefferson and youngsters like Dwayne Wade, LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony Amar'e Stoudemire and Emika Okafor. A mixture between elders and youngsters. They should have played a lot of matches after Americas FIBA. Coach Brown slaughtered them. Also I don't understand why Coach Brown didn't use Ben Wallace in defense , He coached Wallace with Detroit Pistons when the won their ring. Too shame AI didn't win the gold medal
Nahhh they can't be whe only two player were Allstars and one was all nba
Thanks for the video man
They didn't have any shooters. They had enough talentto win it.
There was talent, but it was unused due to poor coaching.
@@oldschool4456 POOR COACHING ? WELL THAT MEAN LARRY BROWN IS 500X BETTER THAN PHIL; JACKSON CAUSE HE BEAT LAKERS WITHOUT ANY 75 MEMBERS VS KOBE SHAQ MALONE GLOVE. PONLY BAD COACH IS POPOVICH AND OVERRATED DUNCAN WHO WERE CAPTAIN AND COACH OF 2004 TEAM
@@oldschool4456 LARRY BROWN ONLY COACH IN HISTYORY WHO BEAT 4 HOF FROM 75 LIST WITHOUT SINGLE GUY FROM 75 GOAT. PHIL JACKSON HAS NO RINGS.
I’ll agree that Coach Brown was a mismatch certainly with this particular roster. If Brown had his 04 Pistons there they probably would have won it all. Unselfish TEAM basketball will always win out over young guys just lookin to score. So yeah sub par roster and unpopular coach. Bad news.
You misspelled Dwyane* Wade on the 04 roster at 3:33.
Excuses, excuses… many international teams also deal with coaching issues
This 2004 team exposed how much Tim Duncan needed Popp/Robinson/Parker/Manu and the spurs system. Can't believe some people argue that "Duncan is top 5 all time", but thend up losing to puerto rico by 19 points, lithunia (0 nba players), and argentina... Only non-gold medal for USA in history of the olympics.
Absurd take. LeBron was on that team. They had zero shooting and balance.
@@ARG61292 If you actually watched the tournament, Lebroin was a bench player and only 18 years old. barely played 8 minnutes a game. Duncan literally fouled out in the 4th quarter of the semi final game against Argentina... He literally got abused by non-NBA players.
Curry >
@@vk3nn728 I agree. Curry > Duncan.
@@mart1n10601 he didn’t get abused at all. I think Duncan himself said that he wasn’t used to the FIBA rules and that the Euro players got away with a lot more than they allowed in the NBA. When you’re used to games being called one way and then they are called a totally different way, that’s hard to adjust to. The Euro players were allowed to be a lot more physical than what Duncan was used to
If I was the coach way back 2004, I would have chosen:
1.) Kobe
2.) Shaq
3.) Ben Wallace,
4.) Billups
5.) Marbury
6.) Iverson
7.) Paul Pierce
8.) Ray Allen
9.) Garnett
10.) Rasheed Wallace
11.) Richard Hamilton
12.) Jason Kidd
Kobe was in the middle of a sexual scandal and chose not to go. Shaq wasn't in the mood too.
Yes but most of those guys declined and didn’t want to go for various reasons
Don’t blame the coaches, coaches are not the ones playing,….Those were NBA players,…they got cocky.
International game requires reliable 3pt shooting. I'd prioritize getting guys like Ray, Pierce, Mike Bibby, Michael Finley, Brent Barry
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Terrible starting lineup around A.I and Duncan should’ve started Bron,Wade,Amare
They completely blame LeBron for this team losing. 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
Facts for no reason just to hate
Bro got 12k subs. What the fuck
duncan and iverson got exposed . plus they ain’t play bron n melo
also other national teams arledy catcht usa...like winning by5 againts serbia with referee blindness
🤣 cry
Lamar Odom making mistakes? Go figure
Just look at those players in the thumbnail, U need outside shooting. AI isnt that kinda player, and post up players are kinda useless because of the zone defense and they can guard the rim with an extra defender .its the guys fault who put that team together and Duncan isnt the greatest PF of all time. People are caught up in the Spurs success and wanna give all to Timmie. He was great, but he's not Barkley or Shaq in the paint. He's too soft of a player. Those other two dominated the paint and were the best player's on their fiba gold metal team.
Shorten the NBA regular season by 20 games then have the American NBA champions play the European national champions for the world title.
and in 2024 the team will lose to France in the the olympics
Wemby x Embiid 😳
@@DJStevo and Rudy😳
Wemby x Embiid x Rudy
The Stifle Towers
@@DJStevooh boy
Nope
92 got Jordan, Magic and Bird, 96 and 00 got shaq and Koby. Never will be a teams like that. The competition was good, just USA had the goats.
Old injured bird and magic with aids already.
@@dimelo58 I Know that. The 1984 USA basketball was the birth of the greatest player who will played Basketball. Stockton and Barkley didn't made the cut. That how pack it was. They destroyed the All stars NBA players and sweep the Olympic. 1960 the future Logo of The NBA and other legends played in that team. Since 1936 USA be wining gold. Only legit loses of USA was 2004 with Lebronze. USAB is full of history and memorable moments.
@@melazaconsabor2028 It’s a bit crazy to even bring lebron into the conversation when he was a rookie straight outta high school that barely got any minutes that year lol you are wild
@@dimelo58 Michael Jordan was coming out of college and play vs NBA all Star, assemble with Isaiah Thomas, Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Sweep them 8-0 and then Sweep the Olympics 8-0. They Destroyed the Soviet Union. Watch some videos of 1984 USAB. This generation is excuses and blaming no accountability and acceptance.
@@melazaconsabor2028 now I see the error of my ways… starting this conversation.
Idk man, it’s hard to believe that international talent got that much better in 12yrs. I think the Euro teams I just got lucky that year
They may not have grown exponentially but the 04 team was young & inexperienced, poorly coached and I think in a way way too cocky. Larry brown was the wrong choice and coach K should’ve been the guy since he’d been there and a lot of players respected him. Couple that with the Kobe scandal and guys like Shaq not wanting to go to Greece it was all a bad combo.
They definitely fixed it.
@@GoBlue_yanks42 yea that’s true, but I don’t think Brown was that bad of a choice. He was right in a lot of what he said