When you were changing the dual toxocist evolution to show how bad the recoil is, evolution didn't actually change because simulacrum is bugged like that (who would've thought). To apply the change you have to change your loadout in some way i.e. choose different weapon.
And right now the vasto incarnon is bugged in the simulacrum too. The 1st one on evo 2 just doesn’t even apply and outright looks like it’s nerfing the numbers on its stat card it’s hilarious.
@@aarushbayyana9769 Damn, you're right. My bad. But the funny thing is - what i said is true either way. Just checked in the sim, recoil on the dual tox takes effect only when you change your loadout.
I've been having fun with Enervate on the Zymos. I seriously doubt that it's better than Secondary Outburst, but not having to keep track of a timer has been nice
I did not see anyone talk about leatum so i will. Last evo from Laetum (the one with 400 base damage stacking up to 1200) is busted with blast. You can still use -crit and +status on the evo before and enervate for the crit chance. Just build for crit dmg Corro, Blast and multishot. The last Evo is getting triggered from blast explo bc it doesnt count as status or crit. Works great used it in a lvl cap Cascade with only Nourish as a Gun Buff.
Enervate works well on tenet cycron and even the Gaze kitgun. I think what i like most about the arcane is that you save a modslot or two of crit chance and add whatever else you need.
Videos like this make me super thankful for the jade shadows update, we have so much more freedom in modding instead of the brainrot “slash viral bane go brr hehe big number OP meta” 🙏
Yeah! Outside of Radiation still being kinda meh, all the other statuses are worth building in certain scenarios. It's been very refreshing having all this freedom ^_^
Just to throw this in here aswell. Iam enjoying my Ocucour alot more with Enervate - than with Cascadia Flare. Running Blast+Magnetic feels just right on that gun :')
Ive been enjoying it on the Tysis, taking it from pure status, to a hybrid, it's pretty fun watching enemies get hit with a bunch of exploding orange clouds of number. definately gets the dopemine kickin'
The explosion from the blast dot is not counted and a weapon hit hence why it allows you to red crit. Theres a youtube video that shows a kompressa blast build that deals damage/interger cap because of the blast interaction. Shoot floor with kompressan bubble explosions and blast explosions stack enervate without needing to hit a target. This is most certainly a bug and not an intended mechanic of enervate.
@@Ark-ane KOmpressa aoe is bugged , blast can’t crit so that’s totally intended it’s more a KOmpressa having so much innate multi shot too on top of having bugged crit chance interactions but that’s another problem haha
Yeah, Kompressa erroneously applies external crit modifiers multiplicatively. Shortly after Cascadia Accuracy came out, I used it with Yareli (Eclipse subsumed iirc? I had a few Yareli builds) to hit -2.1 billion damage.
Refreshing to see truly new stuff. Out of all the weapons, the last one I'd thought about using enervate would be the dual toxo. For a non riven buid, like you said rivens are very expensive, this would definitely be the best way to go
The Epitaph Prime might be a good candidate. Its quick shot has a 4% crit chance on hit, 0% crit chance on radial. The radical crit chance cannot go above zero. The charged shot however, has a 50% base critical chance, and a base 4.2 critcal multiplier. It easy to put a bunch of status on it. So you can still buff the base crit chance of the charged with crit mods, and the crit mutiplier goes above 10x with Merciless gunfight, magnetic might, and prime target breaker, with a modded crit chance of 143%. So you charge up your crits while also priming your targets using the quick shots, and kill anything with the charged shot. Gives an already great primer some additional utility. The epi could already do this to an extent but this would take it to an entirely new level.
@@fantasticthemood Lots of reasons actually. Many game modes specifically lock you into a choice of weapons. The circuit, deep Archimedean come to mind. I don't understand what about the shooting mechanic you think is "bad" The epitaph is commonly referred to as one of the best primers in the game, covering a huge area quickly, and it still does that with the arcane, but now charges larges amounts of stored crit while priming, that you can unleash huge sniper rounds as a bonus. lots of people in my clan happily use the epitaph as their main primer, this just gives an already popular weapon additional utility. By this logic, why use any secondary that ins't the laetum, or any primary that isn't the torid?
Just realized one thing - you cannot fit a full build with a riven on it if you were use maxed-out mods. 9 full-forma in, and still can't fit either Primed Target Cracker or the Riven. I decided to go in for Magnetic Might (riven has cold and CD). Talk about TIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHTTTTTT build - oof!
Just a heads up, he did leak his riven build in the video haha. To fit in the riven, he dropped his "steady hands" in exilus down by 1 level. This means he has - 95% recoil instead of - 110% recoil. The 5% recoil shouldnt be that much of an issue, so you should try that instead. Edit: according to the wiki the incarnon evolution is -50% recoil, but the video shows -60% recoil. I dont own a dual toxocyst myself so I cant confirm, but if it is -60% recoil, youll still hit -100% recoil reduction, with rank 2 steady hands.
if you haven't tried inarnos with null star for the damage reduction then threw life steal or life strike on the melee to restore health, i have it on the slampotes its nuts. hadn't played inaros in years and its definitely my new favorite.
It seems to be any status effect damage instances and not just blast that can stack up enervate without critting and resetting it. Might have to test again but xata's whisper and toxic lash may or may not be stacking up secondary enervate as well
I thought you were gonna say it's bugged and isn't supposed to give a flat 10% crit chance on hit or something and that DE was gonna nerf it, like how they absolutely butchered the crit chance bonus on orange shards making them actually a joke unless you use a full tau set, wasting more useful shards.
I would assume that its due to a massive amount of simultaneous bubble detonations instantly causing a surge in the crit chance causing red crits before it resets. Technically, enervate does not “cap” you at orange crits, it simply RESETS from them (or higher) so if you have dozens of simultaneous white/yellow hits that cause an instant stack of hundreds of percents of crit chance, it will enable red crits to occur before reset as opposed to orange on weapons that function normally
did punchthrough break on the nukor again? i remember they patched out additional chaining on punchthrough hit around the same time they reduced the amount of targets it could chain to.
Finally I can make good use of my otherwise pretty spicy -CC riven. Also, very interesting bit about the additional enervate procs from blast, I did not know about this. Maybe it's time to switch to blast on my Nukor build as well...
enervate makes the ocucor even more busted, feels like a pocket mesa now. Can use it on dante now, before wordwarden ticks killed of the mobs so no extra tentacles and lots of reloading, now its just silly, hold down mouse button, everything melts. Had the ocucor on mesa in circuit and i stopped using her 4 because just blasting with this thing was more effective somehow>
i just tried to get the toxocyst incarnon, but the game crashes when i select the incarnon genesis, so i cant do circuit now, guess i wont be getting it anytime soon
Hello, would you enlighten me on something? I have a riven with +124.7% Critical Damage, +180.2% Critical Chance, +3.3 Punch Through, and -89.2% Zoom. Would such a riven be useful in your build? If so, how would I go about it?
Generally bullet hoses with mediocre crit chance as they can quickly recover from the reset crit chance, like akzani. Status heavy weapons tend two not get as much out of the arcane since this arcane essentially replaces your crit chance mod, but status heavy weapons aren’t running crit chance mods. On most other weapons this is essentially a sidegrade two SP arcanes as it snowballs faster but plateaus lower. An interesting interaction is with shotgun secondaries like rogga where the crit chance is updated after the shot connects, so you can have a full pellet burst of like 30 pellets all critting, though this is kinda clunky since most shotgun secondaries tend two be slow firing and the 1 actual bullet hose shotgun being pyrana already has more than viable crit
Lmao I’m so dumb. I figured this out too while messing around in the simulacrum but I thought it was a bug with Xata’s whisper. I guess I should read the wording on those evos a little better.
Well since you're aiming for heads won't Acuity be good as well? That's what I'm running instead of a crit mod besides Enervate I think? I adjust the gun last week and haven't used it since. I've been using my Kuva Nukor again lol.
@@Unified-Codex I checked my build and it's totally different that yours. I tried Enervate but it's not as good in my honest opinion it's ok at best. The build I'm using that uses Acuity does 300k~900k red crits on the same level 225 SP tier enemies from the Simulacrum with headshots and like 14~89k on the ricochets. And this is on a frame with no mods and no buffs. I feel like your build is cool but it takes away the efficacy of this weapons ability to kill REAL fast. Like sure it looks cool as a bullet hose but damn, you're almost out of incarnon charges and you barely killed half of those test mobs. Tested it on my Mesa that is built with 5 Orange Archon shards and I literally saw one red crit at 3.5m lmao. Well of course it would be higher. The damage I did using a no mod frame was only 300~900k, with a modded frame that has Nourish, it was easily 500~3.5m red crits. Can you humour me and compare the two if you don't believe me. Use your build on a no mod or buff frame then use the set up I'm using, let me know which does more damage. My setup Galvanized Crosshairs Primed Pistol Gambit Primed Target Cracker Lethal Torrent
Although its already really good, ive been messing with enervate on the ocucor with and without my riven. the tendrils giving their own crit chance and adding enervate into the mix has me constantly having orange and sometimes red crits.
Without no blast proc, occucor or nukor are able to hit red crit and my arcane is lvl 3. I believe once you're above 200% you enter redcrit territory at that moment you have chances to hit redcrit without consuming the charge because they are not "big critical hit" (orange crit) as the arcane says but they are "super critical hit" (red crit). Anyway nice cooking with the blast to cycle it faster
Except it does? Every enemy hit with the beam will spawn more beams. You can test it. Edit: Same goes for the Dual Toxocyst incarnon mode, every enemy hit by the main bullet will create more ricochet bullets.
Forma'ed and evolved the gun and it's so much better then Laetum. So much easier to charge up incarnon form with the dual tox. My new favorite secondary.
@DerdOn0ner Laetum for single target but Dual Tox's feel and handling is just superior. Charging the incarnon is so much faster and the quicker clear better for map. To each his own.
Enervate is definitely going to change the secondaries meta as a best in slot for most. Combine this with pistoleer and almost all secondaries become steel path viable without buffs.
Intested some weapons and it mostly shines to buff rapidfire low crit ones. For anythjng pver 100 crit chance its not gonna do much. Ie my 140% atomos incarnon with riven
Also kompressa explosions do the same aoe thing as blast, where they add stacks. You go up enemies then it can explode in a bunch red crits. Hard to do in a full squad as usual.
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When you were changing the dual toxocist evolution to show how bad the recoil is, evolution didn't actually change because simulacrum is bugged like that (who would've thought). To apply the change you have to change your loadout in some way i.e. choose different weapon.
@@deemah6734 is it like that with other incarnon evos?
@@VetriVade As far as i know, this is the case for every incarnon
And right now the vasto incarnon is bugged in the simulacrum too. The 1st one on evo 2 just doesn’t even apply and outright looks like it’s nerfing the numbers on its stat card it’s hilarious.
No it didn't change because he changed the incarnon evolution on his Sybaris and not his Dual Toxocysts lmao. 5:56 look at the top.
@@aarushbayyana9769 Damn, you're right. My bad.
But the funny thing is - what i said is true either way. Just checked in the sim, recoil on the dual tox takes effect only when you change your loadout.
ah so this is what everyone was talking about when discussing secondary enervate.
I've been having fun with Enervate on the Zymos. I seriously doubt that it's better than Secondary Outburst, but not having to keep track of a timer has been nice
i subsumed evade on my xaku prime, held a victim hostage with gaze and just death sprinkler any objective. so fun
I did not see anyone talk about leatum so i will. Last evo from Laetum (the one with 400 base damage stacking up to 1200) is busted with blast. You can still use -crit and +status on the evo before and enervate for the crit chance. Just build for crit dmg Corro, Blast and multishot. The last Evo is getting triggered from blast explo bc it doesnt count as status or crit.
Works great used it in a lvl cap Cascade with only Nourish as a Gun Buff.
Enervate works well on tenet cycron and even the Gaze kitgun. I think what i like most about the arcane is that you save a modslot or two of crit chance and add whatever else you need.
Videos like this make me super thankful for the jade shadows update, we have so much more freedom in modding instead of the brainrot “slash viral bane go brr hehe big number OP meta” 🙏
Yeah! Outside of Radiation still being kinda meh, all the other statuses are worth building in certain scenarios. It's been very refreshing having all this freedom ^_^
@@NinjaSyao and even though radiation is not great in general gameplay, it does have its niches: eidolons and Nyx
Wow this was a great vid definitely using it for dual tox!
King
Just to throw this in here aswell.
Iam enjoying my Ocucour alot more with Enervate - than with Cascadia Flare.
Running Blast+Magnetic feels just right on that gun :')
Ive been enjoying it on the Tysis, taking it from pure status, to a hybrid, it's pretty fun watching enemies get hit with a bunch of exploding orange clouds of number. definately gets the dopemine kickin'
The explosion from the blast dot is not counted and a weapon hit hence why it allows you to red crit. Theres a youtube video that shows a kompressa blast build that deals damage/interger cap because of the blast interaction. Shoot floor with kompressan bubble explosions and blast explosions stack enervate without needing to hit a target. This is most certainly a bug and not an intended mechanic of enervate.
@@Ark-ane KOmpressa aoe is bugged , blast can’t crit so that’s totally intended it’s more a KOmpressa having so much innate multi shot too on top of having bugged crit chance interactions but that’s another problem haha
Yeah, Kompressa erroneously applies external crit modifiers multiplicatively. Shortly after Cascadia Accuracy came out, I used it with Yareli (Eclipse subsumed iirc? I had a few Yareli builds) to hit -2.1 billion damage.
Refreshing to see truly new stuff. Out of all the weapons, the last one I'd thought about using enervate would be the dual toxo. For a non riven buid, like you said rivens are very expensive, this would definitely be the best way to go
The Epitaph Prime might be a good candidate. Its quick shot has a 4% crit chance on hit, 0% crit chance on radial. The radical crit chance cannot go above zero. The charged shot however, has a 50% base critical chance, and a base 4.2 critcal multiplier. It easy to put a bunch of status on it. So you can still buff the base crit chance of the charged with crit mods, and the crit mutiplier goes above 10x with Merciless gunfight, magnetic might, and prime target breaker, with a modded crit chance of 143%. So you charge up your crits while also priming your targets using the quick shots, and kill anything with the charged shot. Gives an already great primer some additional utility. The epi could already do this to an extent but this would take it to an entirely new level.
@@fathom117 only issue is why would u use epitaph like that when the shooting mechanic is bad and there’s much more comfy and fun options to use
@@fantasticthemood Lots of reasons actually. Many game modes specifically lock you into a choice of weapons. The circuit, deep Archimedean come to mind. I don't understand what about the shooting mechanic you think is "bad" The epitaph is commonly referred to as one of the best primers in the game, covering a huge area quickly, and it still does that with the arcane, but now charges larges amounts of stored crit while priming, that you can unleash huge sniper rounds as a bonus. lots of people in my clan happily use the epitaph as their main primer, this just gives an already popular weapon additional utility. By this logic, why use any secondary that ins't the laetum, or any primary that isn't the torid?
Litterally just got done building the Dual Tox.... Yezzir!
Waiting for this video, highly appreciate your videos man
Enjoy
Just realized one thing - you cannot fit a full build with a riven on it if you were use maxed-out mods. 9 full-forma in, and still can't fit either Primed Target Cracker or the Riven. I decided to go in for Magnetic Might (riven has cold and CD). Talk about TIIIIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGHHHTTTTTT build - oof!
Just a heads up, he did leak his riven build in the video haha.
To fit in the riven, he dropped his "steady hands" in exilus down by 1 level. This means he has - 95% recoil instead of - 110% recoil.
The 5% recoil shouldnt be that much of an issue, so you should try that instead.
Edit: according to the wiki the incarnon evolution is -50% recoil, but the video shows -60% recoil. I dont own a dual toxocyst myself so I cant confirm, but if it is -60% recoil, youll still hit -100% recoil reduction, with rank 2 steady hands.
You got a cheeky peek at my build huh?
@ Ze guy is smort!
if you haven't tried inarnos with null star for the damage reduction then threw life steal or life strike on the melee to restore health, i have it on the slampotes its nuts. hadn't played inaros in years and its definitely my new favorite.
You're one of the very few genuinely good channels for warframe left.
Appreciate that
how did u add the icon in the config slot for viral and corrosive?
“” Watch tactical potatoes video on it
Kompressa looks pretty nuts with Enervate, the amount of red crits you get because of the delayed damage is unreal
If you put that on a grimoire, does it work for dante's noctua that you get from wordwarden?
Yes
It seems to be any status effect damage instances and not just blast that can stack up enervate without critting and resetting it. Might have to test again but xata's whisper and toxic lash may or may not be stacking up secondary enervate as well
Wondering if we can make some interesting kit gun secondaries around this
As long as it hits fast enough to trigger enervate rapidly it should work well
I thought you were gonna say it's bugged and isn't supposed to give a flat 10% crit chance on hit or something and that DE was gonna nerf it, like how they absolutely butchered the crit chance bonus on orange shards making them actually a joke unless you use a full tau set, wasting more useful shards.
Enervate would be trash if it was 10% additive crit instead of flat, so I sure hope not
@@Unified-Codex Have you tried this arcane on the kompressa? It red crits a LOT more than other weapons. A lot. Maybe you can figure out why.
I would assume that its due to a massive amount of simultaneous bubble detonations instantly causing a surge in the crit chance causing red crits before it resets.
Technically, enervate does not “cap” you at orange crits, it simply RESETS from them (or higher) so if you have dozens of simultaneous white/yellow hits that cause an instant stack of hundreds of percents of crit chance, it will enable red crits to occur before reset as opposed to orange on weapons that function normally
was your dual tox really not doing enough damage already? fortifier provides better utility imo
second fort arcane eats eximi for breakfast with dual tox
did punchthrough break on the nukor again? i remember they patched out additional chaining on punchthrough hit around the same time they reduced the amount of targets it could chain to.
Finally I can make good use of my otherwise pretty spicy -CC riven.
Also, very interesting bit about the additional enervate procs from blast, I did not know about this. Maybe it's time to switch to blast on my Nukor build as well...
@@8bitmemorylane166 blast nukor with enervate is fantastic. Especially on Saryn.
enervate makes the ocucor even more busted, feels like a pocket mesa now. Can use it on dante now, before wordwarden ticks killed of the mobs so no extra tentacles and lots of reloading, now its just silly, hold down mouse button, everything melts. Had the ocucor on mesa in circuit and i stopped using her 4 because just blasting with this thing was more effective somehow>
i just tried to get the toxocyst incarnon, but the game crashes when i select the incarnon genesis, so i cant do circuit now, guess i wont be getting it anytime soon
Hello, would you enlighten me on something? I have a riven with +124.7% Critical Damage, +180.2% Critical Chance, +3.3 Punch Through, and -89.2% Zoom. Would such a riven be useful in your build? If so, how would I go about it?
So what is good with Ennervate? Would be cool to see a list
Generally bullet hoses with mediocre crit chance as they can quickly recover from the reset crit chance, like akzani. Status heavy weapons tend two not get as much out of the arcane since this arcane essentially replaces your crit chance mod, but status heavy weapons aren’t running crit chance mods. On most other weapons this is essentially a sidegrade two SP arcanes as it snowballs faster but plateaus lower. An interesting interaction is with shotgun secondaries like rogga where the crit chance is updated after the shot connects, so you can have a full pellet burst of like 30 pellets all critting, though this is kinda clunky since most shotgun secondaries tend two be slow firing and the 1 actual bullet hose shotgun being pyrana already has more than viable crit
Lmao I’m so dumb. I figured this out too while messing around in the simulacrum but I thought it was a bug with Xata’s whisper. I guess I should read the wording on those evos a little better.
Evolution 2: Carnage Reign works nearly better that the multi shot one.
Well since you're aiming for heads won't Acuity be good as well? That's what I'm running instead of a crit mod besides Enervate I think? I adjust the gun last week and haven't used it since. I've been using my Kuva Nukor again lol.
You would at least 330% multishot doing that, doesn't seem worth it
@@Unified-Codex I checked my build and it's totally different that yours. I tried Enervate but it's not as good in my honest opinion it's ok at best. The build I'm using that uses Acuity does 300k~900k red crits on the same level 225 SP tier enemies from the Simulacrum with headshots and like 14~89k on the ricochets. And this is on a frame with no mods and no buffs. I feel like your build is cool but it takes away the efficacy of this weapons ability to kill REAL fast. Like sure it looks cool as a bullet hose but damn, you're almost out of incarnon charges and you barely killed half of those test mobs. Tested it on my Mesa that is built with 5 Orange Archon shards and I literally saw one red crit at 3.5m lmao. Well of course it would be higher. The damage I did using a no mod frame was only 300~900k, with a modded frame that has Nourish, it was easily 500~3.5m red crits.
Can you humour me and compare the two if you don't believe me. Use your build on a no mod or buff frame then use the set up I'm using, let me know which does more damage.
My setup
Galvanized Crosshairs
Primed Pistol Gambit
Primed Target Cracker
Lethal Torrent
Although its already really good, ive been messing with enervate on the ocucor with and without my riven. the tendrils giving their own crit chance and adding enervate into the mix has me constantly having orange and sometimes red crits.
Extremely based
Does it work with Mesa regulators?
What’s that ephemera on your mesa
cool video, attempted to put ennervate on mesa but no dice, doesn't do anything for peacemakers
RIP, back to secondary outburst we go
Without no blast proc, occucor or nukor are able to hit red crit and my arcane is lvl 3. I believe once you're above 200% you enter redcrit territory at that moment you have chances to hit redcrit without consuming the charge because they are not "big critical hit" (orange crit) as the arcane says but they are "super critical hit" (red crit).
Anyway nice cooking with the blast to cycle it faster
by this logic, if you were to get a base crit chance of 300% would you then have an infinitely scaling crit chance?
Punch through does not allow beam weapons to chain more
this is a toxocyst video
Except it does? Every enemy hit with the beam will spawn more beams. You can test it.
Edit: Same goes for the Dual Toxocyst incarnon mode, every enemy hit by the main bullet will create more ricochet bullets.
You should try the athomos incarnon with enervate is pretty decent
Forma'ed and evolved the gun and it's so much better then Laetum. So much easier to charge up incarnon form with the dual tox. My new favorite secondary.
Better than Laetum? Debatable 😂
@DerdOn0ner Laetum for single target but Dual Tox's feel and handling is just superior. Charging the incarnon is so much faster and the quicker clear better for map. To each his own.
Enervate is definitely going to change the secondaries meta as a best in slot for most.
Combine this with pistoleer and almost all secondaries become steel path viable without buffs.
this is gonna powercreep cascadia flare weapons, but not secondary fortifier
btw when you showed 5% CC thats on base tox not the incarnon form scroll down and itll show incarnon stats
I'm aware the stats are displayed sep, just forgot they weren't both 5% in this case - either way it doesn't change the result
So Dual Tox is better with enervate you think?
Yes
@ just tried it and yea you’re not wrong. Except shouldn’t we throw on hornet strike instead of pistol elementalist since we’re losing the dmg arcane.
The build already has galvanized aptitude
You Mesa looks cool
Intested some weapons and it mostly shines to buff rapidfire low crit ones. For anythjng pver 100 crit chance its not gonna do much. Ie my 140% atomos incarnon with riven
Also kompressa explosions do the same aoe thing as blast, where they add stacks. You go up enemies then it can explode in a bunch red crits. Hard to do in a full squad as usual.
What ephemera is that
Temporal Prime
laetum could be a good contender
Damn, I have a crit damage riven for my dual tox but I can’t play😢
Pain
I'll have to try it on Athodai.
Enervate kompressa is disgusting. Kompressa also has multiplicative crit damage with dagath and frost.
If only this was a mod u could put on mesa 😢
Kompressa.
good vid bro
if secondary fortifier didn't already exist...
1st i guess
Would it work on Regulators Prime too? 🫠
No
secondary outburst is already great