This is backwards. Combat/swords is better if you have someone else that can reliably take aggro. Sub/daggers is better if you're solo leveling. Ambush into ghostly strike means you start every fight with +15% dodge and with the enemy at half health from ambush damage. Improved sap lets you start fights you normally wouldn't be able to. Preparation is your faceroll button - probably the storngest cooldown rogues have. And master of deception & camoflage seem weak until you have them then you realize you wouldn't ever want to play rogue without them. They're huge quality of life talents. Combat/swords doesn't have any of this control and takes way more damage in fights, increasing time between fights after recovery.
I just wanted to say, you can solo with backstab. You simply gouge the target when ur energy is around 40-80%, then you walk behind the target while stunned, followed by backstab near the end of the gouge timer. It seems to be almost as fast as swords/sinister, however requires a lot more tasks and skill to pull off. It’s a little redundant at time, however great practice and helps you learn to play with your energy pool and see what options you have and calculating how much energy you need to gouge backstabs. You don’t want to gouge, and not have enough energy to backstab. It that’s the basic formula, gouge backstab. Used a lot in PVP, and using cc between cooldown. Ez, no need to go swords; but makes the grinding easier for sure for making it simple.
100% agree. You explained my exact rotation and play style while leveing. You hardly take damage or need to heal / eat. Add in ghostly strike off of ambush opener, pool energy, gouge into backstab.
Heres a handy macro to automatically use Riposte when spamming that SS button! #showtooltip Sinister Strike /cleartarget [dead][help] /startattack /cast Riposte /cast Sinister Strike
Prep is super useful to have mostly in pvp but being able to refresh a vanish to save a from full whipe is also really nice, also with hemo spec you want an off hand dagger since you won’t be getting the procs from duel sword speculation, so you want the faster applies with the dagger.
The weapon is saying it's going to be soulbound to you cuz it's not a soulbound weapon baseline. That way you can't trade it with poison "enchant" to another player. So it's soulbound for the duration of your poison.
I love your theory behind your build. It's your character and your playstyle, screw cookie cutter builds, enjoy the game how you want to play it. Great guide that goes against the grain. Sure I'll be catching flack even for this post....
No to Sprint/evasion Talents. 5/5 sword specialization instead. Gives you an extra attack, could be eviscerate even, so you hit Evisceratex2 or Ripostex2 for just 10 Energy. Sword spec is right I feel like other than that. but definitely want the Sword Specialization for the 5% chance for double hit . I have no clue about dagger rogue, learning that now.
@@DalaranGaming 1 talent netting you a reset on vanish/evis/blind ext is quiet possibly one the best value talents when going Sub, saying your going pure dmg and going sub are counter points, just take it and id take dirty deeds but that ones more personal
Chris B How about this. Classic WoW is a ridiculously easy GAME that was conquered fifteen years ago but pathetic neckbeards want to pretend like builds really matter that much. Get over yourself lol.
@@joshuaroe1402 You have literally made two posts with the word 'neckbeard' in it. If people want to ask questions then let them? I mean WTF dude? You're yet another troll who honestly probably has a neck beard. "Herp, neckbeards, LULW, Xx420xX, derrrr."
You aren't playing Classic WoW regularly or religiously?! What's the matter with you?! Are you a communist?! Seriously, get with the program... Classic is where it's at! It's crazy, but here we are, three years later, and Classic is more popular and vibrant than ever. 🤷🏻♂️
And here we are yet again… four years later! Classic WoW is as busy as ever (at least on my server cluster). I love it. And fortunately for me, I enjoy leveling as much as I enjoy end game. I play mostly rogues, and each of them is a different race/class/spec.
Timerino Chillerino This is a game. He clearly said it wasn’t the optimal build. It is hilarious watching pathetic neckbeards scream about a fifteen year old game. This game has already been conquered and it isn’t that difficult so get over yourself lol.
This is backwards. Combat/swords is better if you have someone else that can reliably take aggro. Sub/daggers is better if you're solo leveling. Ambush into ghostly strike means you start every fight with +15% dodge and with the enemy at half health from ambush damage. Improved sap lets you start fights you normally wouldn't be able to. Preparation is your faceroll button - probably the storngest cooldown rogues have. And master of deception & camoflage seem weak until you have them then you realize you wouldn't ever want to play rogue without them. They're huge quality of life talents. Combat/swords doesn't have any of this control and takes way more damage in fights, increasing time between fights after recovery.
ive been searching for this information for 3 hours now. thank you for putting it in a simple to understand format.
I just wanted to say, you can solo with backstab.
You simply gouge the target when ur energy is around 40-80%, then you walk behind the target while stunned, followed by backstab near the end of the gouge timer.
It seems to be almost as fast as swords/sinister, however requires a lot more tasks and skill to pull off.
It’s a little redundant at time, however great practice and helps you learn to play with your energy pool and see what options you have and calculating how much energy you need to gouge backstabs.
You don’t want to gouge, and not have enough energy to backstab.
It that’s the basic formula, gouge backstab.
Used a lot in PVP, and using cc between cooldown.
Ez, no need to go swords; but makes the grinding easier for sure for making it simple.
isn't dagger crit bugged in classic? ...not doing proposed damage?
@@bninem1397 is it?
You have no idea wtf you're talking about
100% agree. You explained my exact rotation and play style while leveing. You hardly take damage or need to heal / eat. Add in ghostly strike off of ambush opener, pool energy, gouge into backstab.
Heres a handy macro to automatically use Riposte when spamming that SS button!
#showtooltip Sinister Strike
/cleartarget [dead][help]
/startattack
/cast Riposte
/cast Sinister Strike
Thank you!
Doesnt seem to activate when spamming SS, I have to still manually press it.?
@@proxsea7496 It works fine for me. Did you copy/paste it?
@@tubbytimmy8287 Yeah doesnt work
@@proxsea7496 It clears the target and loses combo points doesnt it?
Prep is super useful to have mostly in pvp but being able to refresh a vanish to save a from full whipe is also really nice, also with hemo spec you want an off hand dagger since you won’t be getting the procs from duel sword speculation, so you want the faster applies with the dagger.
The weapon is saying it's going to be soulbound to you cuz it's not a soulbound weapon baseline. That way you can't trade it with poison "enchant" to another player. So it's soulbound for the duration of your poison.
I found it very easy with subtlety dagger spec, only died in dungeons during leveling.
Sword spec tree is all wrong idk where you got that, sprint and evasion points?
@O K are u for real, do u even know what sprint point gives you?
@O K watch real wow players like pshero (when it come to rogues)
Lol, sword spec without Sword Specialization?
I love your theory behind your build. It's your character and your playstyle, screw cookie cutter builds, enjoy the game how you want to play it. Great guide that goes against the grain. Sure I'll be catching flack even for this post....
No to Sprint/evasion Talents. 5/5 sword specialization instead. Gives you an extra attack, could be eviscerate even, so you hit Evisceratex2 or Ripostex2 for just 10 Energy. Sword spec is right I feel like other than that. but definitely want the Sword Specialization for the 5% chance for double hit . I have no clue about dagger rogue, learning that now.
No sword specialization?
First off you should have your voidwalker by level 10. Idk what your doing but this isnt how you play shaman 10/10
Would wank again
What do you guys think about remorseless attacks?
10:00 Initiative doesn't give you extra combo points on backstab! Are you mad?
He said for Ambush not Backstab.
thanks Dal your guides always get me to play whats more fun and not whats "best"
What realm u on
Great video
pleasecan you tell me what unit frames addon is this?
Jasko i think its shadowed unit frames , or just check unit frames at addons for classic
Jasko or you can get Leatrix Plus and set show class colour at frames xD
Mage leveling next!!!
You should spec Sword spec if going combat. And the spec you are showing are not that good for levling because you dont even got Remorsless.
Dude already two mins into this video and no wrong way to spec and wrong info.
First 10 seconds he is backpedaling.... LMAO
I noticed that too lololol
Hemo without prep....ftw its one talent point and gives you a HUGE cooldown...
Should I pick it up? I am open to suggestions. I was just gonna funnel talents into pure damage after hemo.
@@DalaranGaming 1 talent netting you a reset on vanish/evis/blind ext is quiet possibly one the best value talents when going Sub, saying your going pure dmg and going sub are counter points, just take it and id take dirty deeds but that ones more personal
Dont listen to this man abt classic wow lmao
Chris B How about this. Classic WoW is a ridiculously easy GAME that was conquered fifteen years ago but pathetic neckbeards want to pretend like builds really matter that much. Get over yourself lol.
@@joshuaroe1402 You have literally made two posts with the word 'neckbeard' in it. If people want to ask questions then let them? I mean WTF dude? You're yet another troll who honestly probably has a neck beard. "Herp, neckbeards, LULW, Xx420xX, derrrr."
wait a second. You're considered a very good rogue, and have been for years, and you got no clue how fast/slow weapons work? yikes
Theres not much to understand. Have a fast wep in offhand for poison applications, and a hard hitting wep in mainhand for more abimity damage
hes NEVER been a good rogue idk what you are talking about lol
@@azur7362 poison proc on PPM, so it's not dependant of attack speed weapon.
You aren't playing Classic WoW regularly or religiously?! What's the matter with you?! Are you a communist?! Seriously, get with the program... Classic is where it's at! It's crazy, but here we are, three years later, and Classic is more popular and vibrant than ever. 🤷🏻♂️
And here we are yet again… four years later! Classic WoW is as busy as ever (at least on my server cluster). I love it. And fortunately for me, I enjoy leveling as much as I enjoy end game. I play mostly rogues, and each of them is a different race/class/spec.
Imp gouge so late in the game
rogue is easy to level lol
This is a bad guide. I expect more from you @dalaran please delete this so as to not confuse new players who may be interested in the game
Timerino Chillerino This is a game. He clearly said it wasn’t the optimal build. It is hilarious watching pathetic neckbeards scream about a fifteen year old game. This game has already been conquered and it isn’t that difficult so get over yourself lol.
Jacob Murphy lol you are sad and confused :( I’m so sorry