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I’d love for you to show how to use the Stomp with the HX One. Like ad it the HX One in a block in the Stomp chain & have each program change to different settings & make the One be changed with midi from the Stomp.
Hi Justin. I've had the Strymon Cloudburst for about a year, but could never figure out how to create & save custom Cloudburst presets and to call them up on my Helix using MIDI. (I'm a total MIDI noob!) The free Strymon Nexie2 software allowed for easy creation and saving of custom presets on my MacBook (the software also works with the Iridium, BigSky, TimeLine, and Mobius). But your video was the key for learning how to use the Helix MIDI capability to call up the saved Cloudburst presets per Snapshot. Thanks! Your video was a godsend!
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar It's been a few years since I used MIDI in the Kemper but I think it was more stripped down to find MIDI channel and PC change.
Hello, excellent video. I would like to ask you what brand of MIDI cables you use, since I have read that not all brands work. I await your response. Regards.
Hi there, thanks for the kind words! I’ve been fortunate not to run into issues with cheap Amazon MIDI cables, but I also use the Flax cable from Rockboard, and the customisable ones from Disaster Area.
You're welcome! I'll try it out since I do have the Archetype Petrucci, but with 3 switches it's probably going to be quite limited. What functions on the Archetype would you assign to the switches?
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar I have the Petrucci plugin as well. Iam thinking about assigning them to pedals if thats possible or even like an hx stomp fashion assigning clean channel, dirty and lead channels to those three switches.
Hallo bro m from north east india. I do have HX stomp hand Volante. I want to used hx stomp as a midi cantroler for Volante can u please make a video how to connect and utilize thanks in advance.
Hi! I don't have a Volante, but I'm sure the application is still the same: make sure the transmitting device (HX Stomp) and the receiving device (Volante) are on the same channel, use the Strymon manual to figure out what CC changes which parameters, or PC changes which presets on the Volante. Is there a specific use case you'd like to see?
So keen to learn more. I have a very small pedalboard and I can’t afford more space for even a Morningstar MC3. Have you tried sending midi messages to hx stomp itself, along with the messages you are sending to the strymons? Basically I want to setup my dual switch to be sending a midi message for stomp mode (cc 71, value 0) and snapshot mode (cc 71, value 3) back to hx stomp. I’m just not sure if it will cause infinite loop on the strymons as the midi out of the last midi device in chain will be connected to the midi IN of the hx stomp.
Hi! Ah, ever the issue with pedalboard real estate, haha. I don't think you need to feed a MIDI cable from the last pedal back to the Stomp, with Command Center you could assign the MIDI CC and values to the dual switch.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar yup I did that. But when I press it, nothing happens. I really want to try and experiment if this will work (looping the midi out/thru from strymon back to hx stomp). I just don’t have enough midi cables😂
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar yep. nothing happens. the mdii channel of hx stomp matches the channel i configured in command center. I don't think assigning any cc message to any of the built in footswitch will make the message to be "self-received" by the stomp.
Hi Justin. Question so I would use midi cables to run out from the stomp into the BigSky and use the out to go into the timeline correct? Also if I have a Jackson audio golden boy (similar to the broken arrow) could I run that into the stomp throw midi as well and have command center activate the drive stages on it? Thank you for putting up this video. I really want to get a Morningstar mc6 but kinda tight on my board. If you’d like I can DM you on IG.
Hi there! The MIDI signal chain order isn't really important if the pedals all have MIDI thru, which I think the Strymons and the Jackson have. What's important is that there is an unbroken chain from the MIDI source (HX Stomp in this case), then MIDI cables to each individual pedal. With the Jackson, I think it's possible! Just need to make sure the Stomp is transmitting on the same channel that the Jackson is listening to.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar thanks Justin. I was able to get the stomp to work with my Strymon pedals after a long time messing with it. Turns out that in the global settings you have to activate a cc through on snapshots to get this to work. I thinks this is worth noting otherwise it won’t work. I haven’t been able to set up my Jackson pedal yet since I need a 1/4 inch TRS cable to midi for now. At least until I get my Morningstar MC6 in the future. Thank you for this video it was SO helpful. Blessing Justin 🤜🏽🤛🏽
You're welcome! I set up each bank as a song (so each song has 2 presets on the Strymons), and each bank's presets has the same tempo setting. But if I'm using the same presets for multiple songs, I'll sending tap tempo from the HX Stomp to the Strymons via MIDI. Global Settings>MIDI Tempo and set Tx MIDI Clock to "MIDI". MIDI clock is a per preset parameter in the TimeLine, so you'll have to make sure that the presets you want to respond to MIDI clock have the MIDICL parameter set to ON in the PARAM menu.
You’re correct except I think it starts from the HX Stomp MIDI out to the first Strymon MIDI in. There’s no need to loop back to the HX Stomp MIDI in unless one of the Strymons is sending a PC or CC change.
Hi! Actually, I set it up to be in Footswitch mode, and designate one FS in Command Center to move up Snapshots which control my gain (Snapshot 1 - Overdrive bypass, Snapshot 2 - Overdrive on, Snapshot 3 - Overdrive gain turned up). The other FS is vacant for another effects bypass, or to turn up my delay (my usual). FS3 will be tap/tuner. Alternatively, I have the Stomp slaved to my Ableton session and use MIDI clips to change Snapshots.
Oh that too. For the purpose of the video, I show the capability of being able to change presets with snapshots. But on the usual Sunday I don’t need that many presets on the Strymons, and usually have the same presets for the whole set, leaving me to change gain with snapshots
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar I see. So basically you have shown two different ways to approach it….. Hypothetically, if I had an external switch connected to HX stomp so that snapshots could be controlled by the external switch…. And therefore open up the switches on the HX stomp to allow for using them with stomp mode and assigning gain pedal to them…..while at the same time doing the midi stuff that you did in this video….. would that actually be the best of both worlds? Basically, be able to do what this video shows while also being able to easily control gain stages? Does that make sense?
Can you change the snapshot midi message for each Hx stomp preset? Or is the snapshot midi message fixed even if you change to another Hx stomp preset?
Hi! Yes you can. The Command Center is set up per preset, not global. Which is a little annoying cause you have to copy and paste your previous MIDI configuration on a new preset.
Hi Justin! I’m having a bit of trouble getting my stomp to communicate with my strymons. I have a big sky and a timeline. I’m also controlling the stomp with a Jet Micro so I can toggle through my snapshots and presets. My question is what CC’s/PC’s and values do I need to set in command center to tell my strymons to turn on and off and what presets to be on? For example.. if I’m on snapshot 1 and I want preset 00B on in my timeline and 16B on in my big sky, how would I do that? Any help you can give me would be appreciated! I’m new to the world of midi and this is confusing!!! Thank you!
Hi Nic! Indeed it can be confusing. I'm not sure what happens when there are two controllers on the board (your Jet Micro being one MIDI controller) and whether it will conflict with the HX Stomp. Let's first ensure they're all communicating on their own separate MIDI channels. I'm not sure what the Jet Micro is configured to, but if the HX Stomp needs to receive MIDI from Channel 1, make sure that the Strymons are receiving MIDI from Channel 2 and 3 (TimeLine and BigSky respectively). As the video explains, there can be up to 6 commands sent simultaneously per snapshot, so assuming you want bypass control AND patch changes on two devices, you need 4 instances (the lightning bolts in Command Center) set up. For example, on Snapshot 1, set Instant 1 as follows: Program Change, MIDI channel 2 (for the TimeLine), Program #1 (for TimeLine 00B). This will get HX Stomp to trigger 00B on the TimeLine. I share the exact configuration layout at the end of the video that you can copy: ruclips.net/video/HPdLdOcImpw/видео.html, just change the MIDI channels to 2 and 3 for your TL and BS respectively.
So I ended up figuring it out and everything works together. In order to use the jet micro with the stomp as it is designed, you have to go into the global settings on the stomp and make sure the midi tx is set to “off”, not “thru”. If it’s set to thru then it will bank up through your presets not only on your stomp but also on your strymons. The hardest part to figure out was programming PC’s and CC’s. I’ve never done it before and couldn’t find the right combination of numbers. Through a lot of trial and a lot of error I finally got it. Now my stomp is set to stomp mode, so I can have access to OD’s and modulation, while my micro changes through snapshots and presets. Then my stomp tells my strymons (big sky, timeline) what presets to turn on based on with song I’m playing. It’s amazing! No more tap dancing at the beginning of every song. Super easy. Thanks for replying! God Bless!
First timer here too. Trying to figure out how to control my timeline and big sky using my hx stomp xl. Want to change bpm of time also depending on the songs.
Hello nice interesting video! I have a question: I own an Iridium and would like to expand it with modulation and overdrive effects to put before and after. I thought of hx stomp XL so as to control the midi part without buying a controller. Does that sound like a good choice? Do you have any suggestions for them? How are the modulations of the hx stomp? I see that you have so many strymon effects. Thanks a lot
Hi Mauro, thank you for the kind words! Yes, the Stomp XL is an excellent choice, and with the Iridium, you have a very powerful combo! Without amp processing, the Stomp XL will have the DSP for much more processing-hungry effects. Line 6 modulation effects are fantastic. I used to own a vintage Electro Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress, and the equivalent Line 6 model sounds EXACTLY like it. I'm also able to recreate the modulation tones I hear from boutique pedals, all included in the box, no need to buy external effects. As for suggestions, I would experiment putting the Iridium in the FX loop of the Stomp XL, which will open up the flexibility of adding effects before and after it. Or, if you have a breakout dual mono TS to TRS cable, you could put the Iridium after your Stomp XL to maximize the number of effects blocks on the Stomp, but that also means running all effects pre-Iridium. That could be a cool sound; one of the "standard" worship signal chains is to front-load the amps with everything including delay and reverb for that crunched wet section sound.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar Thanks for your reply. The limited power of the hx stomp processor is an important issue I didn't know about. Everyone says it has amp+cab sounds even more beautiful than Iridium. Mostly having never used midi, knowing that hx stomp can be a controller allows me to save money, space and various cables.
Use each instance (the lightning bolt) to send multiple commands to a single pedal. Just make sure each command is sending to the same MIDI channel for the receiving pedal.
Check out the board here: ruclips.net/video/MhO-6WL6nAU/видео.html
Get the packs featured in the video here!
HX Stomp - www.buymeacoffee.com/jcguitar/e/18427
Strymon - www.buymeacoffee.com/jcguitar/e/54512
I’d love for you to show how to use the Stomp with the HX One. Like ad it the HX One in a block in the Stomp chain & have each program change to different settings & make the One be changed with midi from the Stomp.
Hi Justin. I've had the Strymon Cloudburst for about a year, but could never figure out how to create & save custom Cloudburst presets and to call them up on my Helix using MIDI. (I'm a total MIDI noob!) The free Strymon Nexie2 software allowed for easy creation and saving of custom presets on my MacBook (the software also works with the Iridium, BigSky, TimeLine, and Mobius). But your video was the key for learning how to use the Helix MIDI capability to call up the saved Cloudburst presets per Snapshot. Thanks! Your video was a godsend!
Hi! Thanks for sharing this and I’m glad the video was helpful. It’s why I do what I do, so that you guys get the most out of your gear!
This quality is so great... thank you!!
You’re welcome! I hope the content was useful!
Great video breakdown, mate! Just one thing though: 2:19 maybe you forgot to put in chapter markers?
Thanks! I thought I did put in chapter markers, they look like they’re there in my Studio app.
Great dive into midi control with th stomp - just what I was looking for. Great tone as well! Subscribed.
Thank you for the kind words, and I’m glad the content was useful!
Thanks Justin. Was able to this with my Kemper but didn't quite have it worked out on my HX Stomp. 🙏🏻
That's cool! Sounds like it's easier to use the MIDI functions on the Kemper than the HX Stomp.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar It's been a few years since I used MIDI in the Kemper but I think it was more stripped down to find MIDI channel and PC change.
man!...loving your channel. Wish you lived close to show me some tricks on my setup!
Thanks! Whereabouts are you? The day will come when I’ll go over to the US for further studies (pipeline dream).
Hello, excellent video. I would like to ask you what brand of MIDI cables you use, since I have read that not all brands work. I await your response. Regards.
Hi there, thanks for the kind words! I’ve been fortunate not to run into issues with cheap Amazon MIDI cables, but I also use the Flax cable from Rockboard, and the customisable ones from Disaster Area.
Thanks for this information. Did you ever tried this neural dsp plugins? It would be quite nice if it works there.
You're welcome! I'll try it out since I do have the Archetype Petrucci, but with 3 switches it's probably going to be quite limited. What functions on the Archetype would you assign to the switches?
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar I have the Petrucci plugin as well. Iam thinking about assigning them to pedals if thats possible or even like an hx stomp fashion assigning clean channel, dirty and lead channels to those three switches.
Hallo bro m from north east india. I do have HX stomp hand Volante. I want to used hx stomp as a midi cantroler for Volante can u please make a video how to connect and utilize thanks in advance.
Hi! I don't have a Volante, but I'm sure the application is still the same: make sure the transmitting device (HX Stomp) and the receiving device (Volante) are on the same channel, use the Strymon manual to figure out what CC changes which parameters, or PC changes which presets on the Volante. Is there a specific use case you'd like to see?
So keen to learn more.
I have a very small pedalboard and I can’t afford more space for even a Morningstar MC3.
Have you tried sending midi messages to hx stomp itself, along with the messages you are sending to the strymons?
Basically I want to setup my dual switch to be sending a midi message for stomp mode (cc 71, value 0) and snapshot mode (cc 71, value 3) back to hx stomp. I’m just not sure if it will cause infinite loop on the strymons as the midi out of the last midi device in chain will be connected to the midi IN of the hx stomp.
Hi! Ah, ever the issue with pedalboard real estate, haha. I don't think you need to feed a MIDI cable from the last pedal back to the Stomp, with Command Center you could assign the MIDI CC and values to the dual switch.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar yup I did that. But when I press it, nothing happens.
I really want to try and experiment if this will work (looping the midi out/thru from strymon back to hx stomp). I just don’t have enough midi cables😂
Have you tried the same functionality but on FS1-3?
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar yep. nothing happens. the mdii channel of hx stomp matches the channel i configured in command center.
I don't think assigning any cc message to any of the built in footswitch will make the message to be "self-received" by the stomp.
Do you happen to use Ableton Live for tracks? You could send a MIDI note with the embedded CC value to the Stomp, see if that will work.
Hi Justin. Question so I would use midi cables to run out from the stomp into the BigSky and use the out to go into the timeline correct?
Also if I have a Jackson audio golden boy (similar to the broken arrow) could I run that into the stomp throw midi as well and have command center activate the drive stages on it?
Thank you for putting up this video. I really want to get a Morningstar mc6 but kinda tight on my board. If you’d like I can DM you on IG.
Hi there! The MIDI signal chain order isn't really important if the pedals all have MIDI thru, which I think the Strymons and the Jackson have. What's important is that there is an unbroken chain from the MIDI source (HX Stomp in this case), then MIDI cables to each individual pedal. With the Jackson, I think it's possible! Just need to make sure the Stomp is transmitting on the same channel that the Jackson is listening to.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar thanks Justin. I was able to get the stomp to work with my Strymon pedals after a long time messing with it. Turns out that in the global settings you have to activate a cc through on snapshots to get this to work. I thinks this is worth noting otherwise it won’t work. I haven’t been able to set up my Jackson pedal yet since I need a 1/4 inch TRS cable to midi for now. At least until I get my Morningstar MC6 in the future. Thank you for this video it was SO helpful. Blessing Justin 🤜🏽🤛🏽
Thanks for this information Justin. I’m going to try this out. I might have missed it but how do you change bpm from song to song?
You're welcome! I set up each bank as a song (so each song has 2 presets on the Strymons), and each bank's presets has the same tempo setting. But if I'm using the same presets for multiple songs, I'll sending tap tempo from the HX Stomp to the Strymons via MIDI. Global Settings>MIDI Tempo and set Tx MIDI Clock to "MIDI". MIDI clock is a per preset parameter in the TimeLine, so you'll have to make sure that the presets you want to respond to MIDI clock have the MIDICL parameter set to ON in the PARAM menu.
Hi just want to ask how did you connect the midi cables from stomp to your strymon pedals? Thanks did you use a midi hub?
Hi Gerard Nope, no MIDI hub, just the normal 5-pin MIDI patch cables from pedal to pedal.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar is it hx stomp midi in - timeline midi in- timiline midi out - bigaky midi in - bigsky midi out - hx stomp midi out?
You’re correct except I think it starts from the HX Stomp MIDI out to the first Strymon MIDI in. There’s no need to loop back to the HX Stomp MIDI in unless one of the Strymons is sending a PC or CC change.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar thank you so much! Appreciate tou insights. God bless!
You’re most welcome! I hope I’ve been helpful, that’s my aim with the content and the channel.
Hi Justin, with the Stomp switches being designated for 3 snapshots, how are you moving through gain stages during live worship?
Hi! Actually, I set it up to be in Footswitch mode, and designate one FS in Command Center to move up Snapshots which control my gain (Snapshot 1 - Overdrive bypass, Snapshot 2 - Overdrive on, Snapshot 3 - Overdrive gain turned up). The other FS is vacant for another effects bypass, or to turn up my delay (my usual). FS3 will be tap/tuner. Alternatively, I have the Stomp slaved to my Ableton session and use MIDI clips to change Snapshots.
But In this video around 5:26 however, you are showing snapshots controlling the strymons?
Oh that too. For the purpose of the video, I show the capability of being able to change presets with snapshots. But on the usual Sunday I don’t need that many presets on the Strymons, and usually have the same presets for the whole set, leaving me to change gain with snapshots
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar I see. So basically you have shown two different ways to approach it….. Hypothetically, if I had an external switch connected to HX stomp so that snapshots could be controlled by the external switch…. And therefore open up the switches on the HX stomp to allow for using them with stomp mode and assigning gain pedal to them…..while at the same time doing the midi stuff that you did in this video….. would that actually be the best of both worlds? Basically, be able to do what this video shows while also being able to easily control gain stages? Does that make sense?
@erickdiaz6152 how did that work out for you? That's how I'd like to set up, sny tips?
Can you change the snapshot midi message for each Hx stomp preset?
Or is the snapshot midi message fixed even if you change to another Hx stomp preset?
Hi! Yes you can. The Command Center is set up per preset, not global. Which is a little annoying cause you have to copy and paste your previous MIDI configuration on a new preset.
Hi Justin! I’m having a bit of trouble getting my stomp to communicate with my strymons. I have a big sky and a timeline. I’m also controlling the stomp with a Jet Micro so I can toggle through my snapshots and presets. My question is what CC’s/PC’s and values do I need to set in command center to tell my strymons to turn on and off and what presets to be on? For example.. if I’m on snapshot 1 and I want preset 00B on in my timeline and 16B on in my big sky, how would I do that? Any help you can give me would be appreciated! I’m new to the world of midi and this is confusing!!! Thank you!
Hi Nic! Indeed it can be confusing. I'm not sure what happens when there are two controllers on the board (your Jet Micro being one MIDI controller) and whether it will conflict with the HX Stomp.
Let's first ensure they're all communicating on their own separate MIDI channels. I'm not sure what the Jet Micro is configured to, but if the HX Stomp needs to receive MIDI from Channel 1, make sure that the Strymons are receiving MIDI from Channel 2 and 3 (TimeLine and BigSky respectively). As the video explains, there can be up to 6 commands sent simultaneously per snapshot, so assuming you want bypass control AND patch changes on two devices, you need 4 instances (the lightning bolts in Command Center) set up.
For example, on Snapshot 1, set Instant 1 as follows: Program Change, MIDI channel 2 (for the TimeLine), Program #1 (for TimeLine 00B). This will get HX Stomp to trigger 00B on the TimeLine. I share the exact configuration layout at the end of the video that you can copy: ruclips.net/video/HPdLdOcImpw/видео.html, just change the MIDI channels to 2 and 3 for your TL and BS respectively.
So I ended up figuring it out and everything works together. In order to use the jet micro with the stomp as it is designed, you have to go into the global settings on the stomp and make sure the midi tx is set to “off”, not “thru”. If it’s set to thru then it will bank up through your presets not only on your stomp but also on your strymons.
The hardest part to figure out was programming PC’s and CC’s. I’ve never done it before and couldn’t find the right combination of numbers. Through a lot of trial and a lot of error I finally got it.
Now my stomp is set to stomp mode, so I can have access to OD’s and modulation, while my micro changes through snapshots and presets. Then my stomp tells my strymons (big sky, timeline) what presets to turn on based on with song I’m playing. It’s amazing! No more tap dancing at the beginning of every song. Super easy.
Thanks for replying! God Bless!
First timer here too. Trying to figure out how to control my timeline and big sky using my hx stomp xl. Want to change bpm of time also depending on the songs.
Hello nice interesting video! I have a question: I own an Iridium and would like to expand it with modulation and overdrive effects to put before and after. I thought of hx stomp XL so as to control the midi part without buying a controller. Does that sound like a good choice? Do you have any suggestions for them? How are the modulations of the hx stomp? I see that you have so many strymon effects. Thanks a lot
Hi Mauro, thank you for the kind words! Yes, the Stomp XL is an excellent choice, and with the Iridium, you have a very powerful combo! Without amp processing, the Stomp XL will have the DSP for much more processing-hungry effects. Line 6 modulation effects are fantastic. I used to own a vintage Electro Harmonix Deluxe Electric Mistress, and the equivalent Line 6 model sounds EXACTLY like it. I'm also able to recreate the modulation tones I hear from boutique pedals, all included in the box, no need to buy external effects.
As for suggestions, I would experiment putting the Iridium in the FX loop of the Stomp XL, which will open up the flexibility of adding effects before and after it. Or, if you have a breakout dual mono TS to TRS cable, you could put the Iridium after your Stomp XL to maximize the number of effects blocks on the Stomp, but that also means running all effects pre-Iridium. That could be a cool sound; one of the "standard" worship signal chains is to front-load the amps with everything including delay and reverb for that crunched wet section sound.
@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar Thanks for your reply. The limited power of the hx stomp processor is an important issue I didn't know about. Everyone says it has amp+cab sounds even more beautiful than Iridium. Mostly having never used midi, knowing that hx stomp can be a controller allows me to save money, space and various cables.
I can get the stomp to send 1 command to 1 pedal, but that’s where it ends. Anyone able to help?
Use each instance (the lightning bolt) to send multiple commands to a single pedal. Just make sure each command is sending to the same MIDI channel for the receiving pedal.
Thanks for the Bonus!
You're welcome! Glad you watched all the way! :D