Super usefull clips, thanks for that! And also great to see this is all open source, code on Git and how the software progressed the last few years. 299 euro's well invested!
Is there no way to use two way communication (so the Stomp can control the bank changes on the MC6) and have MIDI Thru on as well? I have a couple of other pedals I want to control with MIDI but can't without turning on Thru, which leads to the infinite loop problem.
If you are using the MC6 PRO you can control the MIDI In and Thru routing options such that messages received from MIDI In are only passed out thru selected MIDI outputs. However, on the non-PRO models, there is no way to do this.
@@MorningstarEngineering I'm having the same difficulty setting it up. I have mc6 pro I connected: - midi in helix to midi out trs of the mc6 - midi out helix to the midi in trs of the mc6 for bidirectional setup At this point I connected midi in of minitaur to midi out din of mc6 but I can't send midi signals to minitaur, I can't figure out how to route the signal helix ch 1 minitaur ch 2 i also have a crumar mojo pedal that is supposed to play the minitaur and i connect to the morningstar host, but i can't get it to send the signal. on the other hand, if I cascade everything by taking away the bidirectionality and using the helix thu's I have no problem Where am I going wrong?
To me the double way controlling preset changes doesn't works. When I try to change preset on the stomp, MC6 don't change bank and forces Stomp to go back to the preset the bank is controlling. It only works one way.
Hi. You probably have some settings incorrect (MIDI thru or MIDI channels). Please send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
I know this is a HX Stomp tutorial, but I was wondering if the 2-way midi communication is possible with the Fractal FM3. I have a MC6 and am curious if I can make it work similarly.
Hi. Yes, FM3 is also able to output MIDI messages. It can send a PC message each time a preset is engaged too. So 2-way communication is also possible. Refer to pg 113 of the FM3 manual: www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/manuals/FM3/FM3-Owners-Manual.pdf
Could you set other pedals to change parameters when you switch presets on the stomp? For example, if I wanted to have a separate reverb pedal change from a spring to hall setting when switching between 2 presets?
Hi. Yes, you most definitely can. As long as your other pedal is MIDI capable, you can simultaneously send another message to switch it with the same switch. Check out our feature list here: www.morningstarfx.com/features
i have a FAS FM3 and want to use a Mission sp1 as Wha and volume using the switch option for my wha and various expression options. is this possible using the inputs on the MC8 ...
Hi. These 2 videos will cover everything you need to know about using expression pedals with our controllers: ruclips.net/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/m6rMVbxCoa4/видео.html
Should the two way communication be enabled to use the recall feature? Im looking forward to buy a MC8 to use with the HX Stomp, Timefactor and ML5, so I'll need to use the midi through
You don't need to enable two way communication to recall HX Stomp presets. Only one way is required - the MC8 to control the HX Stomp. We explained that in the part 1 video here: ruclips.net/video/u1Be2wWeTEQ/видео.html Hope that helps!
is there any way to to have a free bank besides them all set to each preset with feature one. say I have preset 1 with a looper in it and I want bank 2 to be the control for the 6 button looper instead of preset 2
Hi. Sorry, I do not understand your question. You may email us at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
so hard deciding between this or the MC3 for my needs! The MC6 is the best overall but then I would have to get a bigger board or sacrifice some other pedals. Choices choices!
Any chance you could do one of these videos with the new Boss GT1000 Core? Seriously considering selling off my whole pedalboard in favour of one of those and an MC6.
Thanks for the useful tips! Really looking forward to see how to use a Wave Generator with HX Stomp - to emulate expression pedal with Whammy pedal, a wah, and generating infinite feedback on delay with just the one switch of the MC6. This feature is not documented in release note and can't understand why the minimum value is 5 for example, and so on :/
Is there a way to recall the state of an effect when changing presets. Lets say by default on HX STOMP preset A my dirt is on , but the mc-6 shows it as off when i switch to the bank where the dirtoff/on are set ?
Question... If you set a button to perform a single tap and double tap... does it slow down the single tap due to processing? Both my FAMC and JET midi controllers have a delay when using multifunction buttons.
Hi Jeff. Yes there will be a delay as the controller will have to wait to see if a second tap is coming before it sends it executes send. We recommend using 'Release' and Long Press if you would like lower latency multi-action functionality.
Hi. While the MC6 can be powered by phantom power via its MIDI out port, the HX Stomp does not supply phantom power. So you will still need a power source.
Hi! We go into detail about what type of expression pedals to use in this video: ruclips.net/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/видео.html It's also stated in the manuals of our products
Can anyone help me get my expression pedal to work? I have Hx Stomp, mission line 6 model expression, and an MC8. Do I go straight from the expression pedal into the MC8 then send MIDI message to HX stomp or use the EX input on the stomp?
Hi. We made a video about that before: ruclips.net/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/видео.html If you want to maximise the potential of using MIDI with an expression pedal, you should connect your expression pedal to your MC8 as shown in the video.
Hi, thanks for the videos! just ordered an MC6 to use with an HX Effects, and want to make sure I have everything I need when it arrives... so for this level of functionality I'll need to connect the MC6 & HXFX with *two* midi cables, correct?
Great video! For the change stomp footswitch mode though, wouldn't you want the first one to be release, not press? I find when you have press and long press, it always does press first but if you hold it long enough it will jump to the long press. So if you didn't want the Stomp to jump to the press option first, it should be release? Or have you changed how that works?
Hi! You are right about the way the actions interact. Usually it would be best to use release instead. However in this case, we are just changing modes. As Long Press will be registered after Press, we will still be able to achieve the desired outcome. Cheers!
Hi. We don't own one and are unable to make a video with it. However, we made a video about the Axe FX III before, which we suspect is very similar. Watch here: ruclips.net/video/ikJ8Bl5p8HQ/видео.html
Hi, that should not be the case. 2-way communication does not need you to be on the latest firmware. Send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you. Cheers!
Hi. Yes, you most definitely can. You can control up to 16 different devices you want with the 16 different MIDI channels available. This article we wrote will be useful to you: www.morningstarfx.com/post/setting-up-a-midi-pedalboard
I want to use two rigs at the same time, for example if I have a gt core and a helix stomp and 2 power amp, I will control them both in 1switch, when I press 1 footswitch patch 1 of my gt core and patch 1 of my helix stomp will engage, is it possible? Sorry for my English.,
Hi. We have different actions for you to choose from, and each can send different MIDI messages using a single switch. So while switch A in this video controls the tuner across all banks with long press. Switch A in different banks could can still control different things with different actions such as press or double tap etc. A global settings solution would not allow this.
@@MorningstarEngineering I think there are scenarios not that complicated. Much more often people need for example to engage the tuner or list the banks not depending in what bank/preset they are. There should be ways to do that in more raional manner than just copy/paste the commands inside the controller menu.
Make sure that both the HX Stomp and your MIDI controller are set to the same MIDI receive channel for two-way communication to work.
So helpful! Thanks so so much for this! Love the new update to the editor.
Super usefull clips, thanks for that! And also great to see this is all open source, code on Git and how the software progressed the last few years. 299 euro's well invested!
You're doing great stuff! It's very useful!
Is there no way to use two way communication (so the Stomp can control the bank changes on the MC6) and have MIDI Thru on as well? I have a couple of other pedals I want to control with MIDI but can't without turning on Thru, which leads to the infinite loop problem.
If you are using the MC6 PRO you can control the MIDI In and Thru routing options such that messages received from MIDI In are only passed out thru selected MIDI outputs. However, on the non-PRO models, there is no way to do this.
@@MorningstarEngineering I'm having the same difficulty setting it up.
I have mc6 pro I connected:
- midi in helix to midi out trs of the mc6
- midi out helix to the midi in trs of the mc6
for bidirectional setup
At this point I connected midi in of minitaur to midi out din of mc6 but I can't send midi signals to minitaur, I can't figure out how to route the signal
helix ch 1
minitaur ch 2
i also have a crumar mojo pedal that is supposed to play the minitaur and i connect to the morningstar host, but i can't get it to send the signal.
on the other hand, if I cascade everything by taking away the bidirectionality and using the helix thu's I have no problem
Where am I going wrong?
Fantastic, thanks
What is the second midi cable atttached at 2:28?
Hi. It's the Rockboard FlaX Plug MIDI Cable with the plastic hinges removed. We wrote about it here: www.morningstarfx.com/post/the-midi-cable-review
To me the double way controlling preset changes doesn't works. When I try to change preset on the stomp, MC6 don't change bank and forces Stomp to go back to the preset the bank is controlling. It only works one way.
Hi. You probably have some settings incorrect (MIDI thru or MIDI channels). Please send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
Hola Giovanni, has podido resolverlo ? saludos
Could I use Stomp’s FS’s for Snapshot mode while using MC6-PRO to switch presets and/or turn specific blocks/effects on/off?
Yes you can!
I know this is a HX Stomp tutorial, but I was wondering if the 2-way midi communication is possible with the Fractal FM3. I have a MC6 and am curious if I can make it work similarly.
Hi. Yes, FM3 is also able to output MIDI messages. It can send a PC message each time a preset is engaged too. So 2-way communication is also possible. Refer to pg 113 of the FM3 manual: www.fractalaudio.com/downloads/manuals/FM3/FM3-Owners-Manual.pdf
Could you set other pedals to change parameters when you switch presets on the stomp? For example, if I wanted to have a separate reverb pedal change from a spring to hall setting when switching between 2 presets?
Hi. Yes, you most definitely can. As long as your other pedal is MIDI capable, you can simultaneously send another message to switch it with the same switch. Check out our feature list here: www.morningstarfx.com/features
i have a FAS FM3 and want to use a Mission sp1 as Wha and volume using the switch option for my wha and various expression options. is this possible using the inputs on the MC8 ...
Hi. These 2 videos will cover everything you need to know about using expression pedals with our controllers: ruclips.net/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/видео.html and ruclips.net/video/m6rMVbxCoa4/видео.html
Should the two way communication be enabled to use the recall feature? Im looking forward to buy a MC8 to use with the HX Stomp, Timefactor and ML5, so I'll need to use the midi through
You don't need to enable two way communication to recall HX Stomp presets. Only one way is required - the MC8 to control the HX Stomp. We explained that in the part 1 video here: ruclips.net/video/u1Be2wWeTEQ/видео.html Hope that helps!
is there any way to to have a free bank besides them all set to each preset with feature one.
say I have preset 1 with a looper in it and I want bank 2 to be the control for the 6 button looper instead of preset 2
Hi. Sorry, I do not understand your question. You may email us at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you and we will be able to follow up easily. Cheers!
so hard deciding between this or the MC3 for my needs! The MC6 is the best overall but then I would have to get a bigger board or sacrifice some other pedals. Choices choices!
Hi. We've put together a comparison chart here that will hopefully make your decision easier: www.morningstarfx.com/compare-products Cheers!
Any chance you could do one of these videos with the new Boss GT1000 Core? Seriously considering selling off my whole pedalboard in favour of one of those and an MC6.
We just got our hands on a GT1000 Core and create a video soon.
@@MorningstarEngineering Notifications switched on ;)
Thanks for the useful tips! Really looking forward to see how to use a Wave Generator with HX Stomp - to emulate expression pedal with Whammy pedal, a wah, and generating infinite feedback on delay with just the one switch of the MC6. This feature is not documented in release note and can't understand why the minimum value is 5 for example, and so on :/
Is there a way to recall the state of an effect when changing presets. Lets say by default on HX STOMP preset A my dirt is on , but the mc-6 shows it as off when i switch to the bank where the dirtoff/on are set ?
The HX Stomp does not send such data so that is not possible.
Question... If you set a button to perform a single tap and double tap... does it slow down the single tap due to processing? Both my FAMC and JET midi controllers have a delay when using multifunction buttons.
Hi Jeff. Yes there will be a delay as the controller will have to wait to see if a second tap is coming before it sends it executes send. We recommend using 'Release' and Long Press if you would like lower latency multi-action functionality.
What is the other low profile midi cable used in this video (not the Rockboard or One Control cable)?
At which timestamp?
@@MorningstarEngineering 2:28
Is it possible to press a footswitch and go to a particular preset with a particular snapshot?
Hi. Yes, you can add the snapshot message after the Program Change message to recall your desired snapshot with the same footswitch.
can the mc6 be powered by midi connection to a stomp? or it needs a 9v powersupply aswell?
Hi. While the MC6 can be powered by phantom power via its MIDI out port, the HX Stomp does not supply phantom power. So you will still need a power source.
Thanks, great tips!
what expression pedal would you use for this setup ??
Hi! We go into detail about what type of expression pedals to use in this video: ruclips.net/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/видео.html It's also stated in the manuals of our products
Can you make the Stomp send Pc messages to MC6 to cause bank changes in MC6?
Yes. We showed it at 1:48.
@@MorningstarEngineering hola, no lo he podido lograr siguiendo las indicaciones del video, Daniel tu has podido hacerlo ?
Can anyone help me get my expression pedal to work? I have Hx Stomp, mission line 6 model expression, and an MC8. Do I go straight from the expression pedal into the MC8 then send MIDI message to HX stomp or use the EX input on the stomp?
Hi. We made a video about that before: ruclips.net/video/-TNTkqh-gEE/видео.html If you want to maximise the potential of using MIDI with an expression pedal, you should connect your expression pedal to your MC8 as shown in the video.
@@MorningstarEngineering thank you 😊, I wasn’t using a TRS cable when I tried this so after watching that video I got it figured out
Hi, thanks for the videos! just ordered an MC6 to use with an HX Effects, and want to make sure I have everything I need when it arrives... so for this level of functionality I'll need to connect the MC6 & HXFX with *two* midi cables, correct?
Hi! Yes, that is correct. Enjoy!
Great video! For the change stomp footswitch mode though, wouldn't you want the first one to be release, not press? I find when you have press and long press, it always does press first but if you hold it long enough it will jump to the long press. So if you didn't want the Stomp to jump to the press option first, it should be release? Or have you changed how that works?
Hi! You are right about the way the actions interact. Usually it would be best to use release instead. However in this case, we are just changing modes. As Long Press will be registered after Press, we will still be able to achieve the desired outcome. Cheers!
Could u make a video for a Fractal FM3?
Hi. We don't own one and are unable to make a video with it. However, we made a video about the Axe FX III before, which we suspect is very similar. Watch here: ruclips.net/video/ikJ8Bl5p8HQ/видео.html
So two way communication is not possible on the MC3? Using USB won't work?
Hi. That's not possible as the Zoom requires a USB MIDI host in between to communicate with standard MIDI controllers.
Which power supply are you using to power the stomp and the mc6?
In this video, the MC6 is being powered by USB and the HX Stomp is powered by its included wall adaptor.
Well now I want to overhaul my board and add this to the mix...
Will this work also with helix rack to turn on/off effects?
Yes, it will. The Helix rack supports external MIDI control.
can we change the midi message settings directly from mc6??or do we have to always use a computer?
Hi! You can edit all the MIDI message settings directly on the controller itself too. The editor just makes it faster and easier.
If you go through these steps and nothing happens, does that mean you Morningstar isn’t properly updated or is there something else I am missing?
Specifically for feature number 1
Hi, that should not be the case. 2-way communication does not need you to be on the latest firmware. Send us an email at help@morningstarfx.com. We provide technical support from there. A service ticket will be created for you. Cheers!
I notice the same problem. Have you solved?
Great video. What pedalboard is under there?
Pretty sure it's a pedaltrain nano+
Great products!! Would this work just as well with the Boss GT1000 Core?
It'll definitely work with the GT1000. We just got our hands on a GT1000 Core and create a video soon.
Excellent!!!
is it possible to control 2 modelers with just 1 midi?
Hi. Yes, you most definitely can. You can control up to 16 different devices you want with the 16 different MIDI channels available. This article we wrote will be useful to you: www.morningstarfx.com/post/setting-up-a-midi-pedalboard
@@MorningstarEngineering thank you very much
I want to use two rigs at the same time, for example if I have a gt core and a helix stomp and 2 power amp, I will control them both in 1switch, when I press 1 footswitch patch 1 of my gt core and patch 1 of my helix stomp will engage, is it possible? Sorry for my English.,
@@MorningstarEngineering so it is like this,
helixstomp>poweramp>cab
Guitar>midi
gtcore1000>poweramp>cab
Feature number 6 is very useful but why is done as a copy/paste in the pedal? Why not do it as a global feature assignment from the Desktop editor?
Hi. We have different actions for you to choose from, and each can send different MIDI messages using a single switch. So while switch A in this video controls the tuner across all banks with long press. Switch A in different banks could can still control different things with different actions such as press or double tap etc. A global settings solution would not allow this.
@@MorningstarEngineering I think there are scenarios not that complicated. Much more often people need for example to engage the tuner or list the banks not depending in what bank/preset they are. There should be ways to do that in more raional manner than just copy/paste the commands inside the controller menu.
Is it necessary to have two midi cables in engaging sScSnSt , fs4 and fs5 and tuner?
Hi. Nope, just 1 MIDI cable is needed from the Morningstar MIDI Out port to the HX Stomp MIDI In port.