Thank you so much sir! You helped me picture the circuit in my head and it all made sense during the install. I did have one additional black wire floating around in the junction box but quickly found what it went to when I flipped the breaker back on and the fan/light worked but none of the other outlets in the bedroom did.
Thank you for braking down the wire types as well as the color for corresponding thing they power (fan or light). I was stumped when I followed the directions from the manual provided me but they didn’t even indicate to wire the wire powering the light to anything. Appreciate the vid
Great directions, thank you for sharing the information and the detailed instructions as well as the information about how the electricity flows at the end was extremely useful.
Directions worked perfect on the first ceiling fan I installed, but on the second fan I did the same and come to find out the light kit was bad. Thanks for the video, Sir!
If I'm not using smart switches, but simple old school toggle switches, then the switches will not have neutral (white) wires to connect to the cluster of other neutrals in the box, correct? Simply connect the black "line" wire coming from the breaker panel to each switch, the unique wires to each switch, and a ground wire from each switch to the cluster of grounds, correct? No, neutrals from the switches to the cluster of neutrals. Sound right?
If you have an old house without neutral wires, it sounds logical that each individual switch would yes, just switch on power to each separate powered section of the light fan unit. Newer fans will have a neutral wire if you have that in your system. This is not electrical wiring advice, as I am not an electrician, but it sounds like you're on the right track to close each circuit individually with a separate switch.
Thank you. I'm installing a new fan for two switches(fan, light) It said connect black and blue to black. My old fan was blue to red and black to black. Once I tried it with the instructions, the circuit tripped. Will revert back to the original setup for two switches.
Really hard to know without the details of how it is wired. Are you saying you have a heater in your light box? If you're not completely sure, the electrician is probably worth the call.
With all fans going to DC instead AC motors, it’s my understanding that switch control for fan speed is not good for the motor, is it better to just have a dumb switch? And use the remote provided by the fan manufacturer? I’m a little lost on that part
Of course use the power that the manufacturer designed it for. The remote by the manufacturer is just fine, but usually doesn't come with remote local or cloud control logic. For instance, if the temperature sensor in the room is above 73, turn the fan on medium, if it goes above 75, set it to high, then turn it off in four hours.
Are you talking about a tripod mounted camera? Yes, I think that would have been great. It's crazy how much work that adds to a project trying to film and finish. It would be nice to have a camera operator as well. Perhaps in the future. Thanks for watching! Hopefully you got your wiring working!
Question. I want to replace a lighted (two switch) ceiling fan with a non-lighted ceiling fan. Do I only connect the white, black, and ground wires and cap the red?
Great question. I can't see your situation, but if you isolate just the wires you need, I don't see a problem with just capping both ends of the unused wires so they can't touch anything or have any current through them. Essentially, know what each wire is for and use appropriately; you're on the right track.
So technically speaking and correct me if I’m wrong but you never really showed us how to wire a fan with two switches. So if I only have a white and black wire from the ceiling, I can’t get my remote ceiling fan to work until I rewire the ceiling ? Is that correct ?
You are correct. You will need a third wire in order to control the fan independently from the light. Otherwise your one switch control for the light will power the fan as well and subject to the fan speed via the pull chain.
What are the model numbers of the switches from Lutron? I purchased the Lutron PD-6WCL-WH to control the lights, but no white wire on the back of the switch. Maybe I should have purchased the Lutron PD-10NXD-WH?
Great question! I had to figure this one out when I started as well. The more expensive 10NXD has hardware to support low-voltage, so if you have it controlling a dozen 1 watt bulbs, they will dim to off, whereas the cheaper version will still pass through a small amount of voltage to the lights that is used to power the wireless control signal. MLV loads convert the output from the dimmer to a low voltage output, so that smaller 12V or 24V lamps can be used, which requires that neutral wire. The cheaper version doesn't require the neutral, so you can just cap it off in the box if you have one. You can work around the cheap version by adding one higher watt bulb into the circuit and save some money if you want. There are other wiring solutions as well, but I haven't tried them.
I want the ceiling fan and the fan light to be controllable from their dedicated switches. My fan only has a blue wire and a white wire. What do I connect to the red wire?
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Hopefully you figured out whether you need an additional wire run from the switch to the ceiling. You'll need a circuit for each to control them separately. Otherwise you're left to using the pull chains or fan speed tied to the dimness of the light.
I have a three way wire but ceiling fan will not work with switch, only the light will? The fan turns on with the remote, but I can’t do nothing to the fan without. Do I need a switch like the one you have that controls everything?
From what I've found, the fans with remotes don't let you wire separate circuits. It's easiest to buy a new fan unless you get into the fine details of rewiring the fan all together. There also might be ways to tap the remote into a smart device system using the IR sensor, or other ways, so that could be an option.
Yes, you're right that I didn't show the finished functionality of the lights and fan working separately. The only testing I needed to do was to turn the switch on. If the light came on, I thought it pretty obvious that it worked and it felt unnecessary to show that, but maybe I'll include more of those buttoned up shots in future videos. Thanks for watching! Hope you got yours working!
If your three wires include your ground, then it's possible your fan and light can't be separated and you'll have to use the pull chain to operate them separately. Honestly, it might be easier to get a newer fan vs. trying to rewire the current fan.
@KylersStudio The ceiling fan has three wires - live, neutral and ground. The ceiling box has 4 wires - neutral, ground and live wires (red, black). When I connect the fan to ceiling box with Ground to ground Neutral to neutral Ceiling black wire to fan live wire.. no power coming to fan Even if I connect red ceiking wire to fan live wire instead black ceiling wire, still no power to fab. Any thoughts?
@@ST-pq4dx I have my opinions, but consider checking out Home Depot's How to Wire a Ceiling Fan and see if one of those charts match your situation. I don't want to give any ill advice.
C'mon dude! Clean up those wires in the switch-box before connecting your wire nuts to freshly stripped wires. Great dialogue though due to concise, gramatical verbal, articulation! Language expert here. Ha!
Yes, but still doable if the power comes through the ceiling. You'll just have to lookup the differences in junction box to control. I hope you figured it out.
I want the ceiling fan and the fan light to be controllable from their dedicated switches. My fan only has a blue wire and a white wire. What do I connect to the red wire?
Sounds like you might not have enough wires running to the fan to control them separately. If that's your situation, the only way to do it is either with a dumb remote, or run a new set of wires to the fan.
Of all fan install videos, this was by far the most helpful.
Thank you! I appreciate that!
Watched many tutorials but didn’t understand a thing until I watched this one. Will definitely save this!
Thank you!!!!
Great to hear! I am not an electrician; just did a lot of research and figured out a way to explain it, hopefully making it easier to understand.
Thank you so much sir! You helped me picture the circuit in my head and it all made sense during the install. I did have one additional black wire floating around in the junction box but quickly found what it went to when I flipped the breaker back on and the fan/light worked but none of the other outlets in the bedroom did.
You're welcome! Glad it helped! Yes, I think it's common to daisy wire the outlets off a light switch or visa versa. Glad you figured it out!
Thank you for braking down the wire types as well as the color for corresponding thing they power (fan or light). I was stumped when I followed the directions from the manual provided me but they didn’t even indicate to wire the wire powering the light to anything. Appreciate the vid
Glad I could help!
Great directions, thank you for sharing the information and the detailed instructions as well as the information about how the electricity flows at the end was extremely useful.
Thanks for the feedback. Glad it helped!
This was very informative! I was able to install my outdoor fan exactly the way you explained! Thank you!
Awesome! Glad it helped!
Directions worked perfect on the first ceiling fan I installed, but on the second fan I did the same and come to find out the light kit was bad. Thanks for the video, Sir!
At least you figured it out! Nice job and you're welcome!
Thanks so much for this. Been searching for this exact explanation. Thank you!!
Great! Glad it helped!
If I'm not using smart switches, but simple old school toggle switches, then the switches will not have neutral (white) wires to connect to the cluster of other neutrals in the box, correct? Simply connect the black "line" wire coming from the breaker panel to each switch, the unique wires to each switch, and a ground wire from each switch to the cluster of grounds, correct? No, neutrals from the switches to the cluster of neutrals. Sound right?
If you have an old house without neutral wires, it sounds logical that each individual switch would yes, just switch on power to each separate powered section of the light fan unit. Newer fans will have a neutral wire if you have that in your system. This is not electrical wiring advice, as I am not an electrician, but it sounds like you're on the right track to close each circuit individually with a separate switch.
@@KylersStudio Thanks! Your video was super helpful!
Thank you. I'm installing a new fan for two switches(fan, light) It said connect black and blue to black. My old fan was blue to red and black to black. Once I tried it with the instructions, the circuit tripped. Will revert back to the original setup for two switches.
If your instructions tell you, certainly go with that. Hope you figured it out
Thanks for making this video!
You’re welcome! I hope it helped!
What if you have a heater/fan/light? How doe the wiring change? Will it have to be a single dedicated circuit or can I feed both outlet and ligths?
Really hard to know without the details of how it is wired. Are you saying you have a heater in your light box? If you're not completely sure, the electrician is probably worth the call.
I'm not a pro by any means, but aren't those twist caps one is only? I use Wago lever connectors, BTW.
Wago nuts are nice, but included nuts are cheaper.
With all fans going to DC instead AC motors, it’s my understanding that switch control for fan speed is not good for the motor, is it better to just have a dumb switch? And use the remote provided by the fan manufacturer? I’m a little lost on that part
Of course use the power that the manufacturer designed it for. The remote by the manufacturer is just fine, but usually doesn't come with remote local or cloud control logic. For instance, if the temperature sensor in the room is above 73, turn the fan on medium, if it goes above 75, set it to high, then turn it off in four hours.
Would be great if you would have had the camera on the switch boxes when you wired them.
Are you talking about a tripod mounted camera? Yes, I think that would have been great. It's crazy how much work that adds to a project trying to film and finish. It would be nice to have a camera operator as well. Perhaps in the future. Thanks for watching! Hopefully you got your wiring working!
Outstanding! Thank you 😊!
You are so welcome! Hope it helped!
Question. I want to replace a lighted (two switch) ceiling fan with a non-lighted ceiling fan. Do I only connect the white, black, and ground wires and cap the red?
Great question. I can't see your situation, but if you isolate just the wires you need, I don't see a problem with just capping both ends of the unused wires so they can't touch anything or have any current through them. Essentially, know what each wire is for and use appropriately; you're on the right track.
So technically speaking and correct me if I’m wrong but you never really showed us how to wire a fan with two switches. So if I only have a white and black wire from the ceiling, I can’t get my remote ceiling fan to work until I rewire the ceiling ? Is that correct ?
You are correct. You will need a third wire in order to control the fan independently from the light. Otherwise your one switch control for the light will power the fan as well and subject to the fan speed via the pull chain.
The ceiling fan that I purchased only has 2 wires.. Black and White
That's pretty common. You'll need the third wire to control the fan individually; otherwise it's pretty much just on or off.
My fan has 2 black wires connected to the fan switch. My new switch has red, blue and black. Do i just cap it off. Its gor the light controls.
What are the model numbers of the switches from Lutron? I purchased the Lutron PD-6WCL-WH to control the lights, but no white wire on the back of the switch. Maybe I should have purchased the Lutron PD-10NXD-WH?
Great question! I had to figure this one out when I started as well. The more expensive 10NXD has hardware to support low-voltage, so if you have it controlling a dozen 1 watt bulbs, they will dim to off, whereas the cheaper version will still pass through a small amount of voltage to the lights that is used to power the wireless control signal. MLV loads convert the output from the dimmer to a low voltage output, so that smaller 12V or 24V lamps can be used, which requires that neutral wire. The cheaper version doesn't require the neutral, so you can just cap it off in the box if you have one. You can work around the cheap version by adding one higher watt bulb into the circuit and save some money if you want. There are other wiring solutions as well, but I haven't tried them.
Shouldn't the bare ware be wrapped clockwise and not ccl?
I didn't know that was a thing.
I want the ceiling fan and the fan light to be controllable from their dedicated switches. My fan only has a blue wire and a white wire. What do I connect to the red wire?
Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Hopefully you figured out whether you need an additional wire run from the switch to the ceiling. You'll need a circuit for each to control them separately. Otherwise you're left to using the pull chains or fan speed tied to the dimness of the light.
I have a three way wire but ceiling fan will not work with switch, only the light will? The fan turns on with the remote, but I can’t do nothing to the fan without. Do I need a switch like the one you have that controls everything?
From what I've found, the fans with remotes don't let you wire separate circuits. It's easiest to buy a new fan unless you get into the fine details of rewiring the fan all together. There also might be ways to tap the remote into a smart device system using the IR sensor, or other ways, so that could be an option.
Can I add an 80cfm to my bathroom using 14/2 wire? Thanks
I’m not sure; I’d have to check the specs and do the research.
Thank you so much
You're most welcome; hope it helped!
You talked about testing the circuits before finalizing, but didn't show the testing, nor it working after everything was "buttoned up."
Yes, you're right that I didn't show the finished functionality of the lights and fan working separately. The only testing I needed to do was to turn the switch on. If the light came on, I thought it pretty obvious that it worked and it felt unnecessary to show that, but maybe I'll include more of those buttoned up shots in future videos. Thanks for watching! Hope you got yours working!
What changes need to be made if fan has only three wires coming out?
If your three wires include your ground, then it's possible your fan and light can't be separated and you'll have to use the pull chain to operate them separately. Honestly, it might be easier to get a newer fan vs. trying to rewire the current fan.
@KylersStudio
The ceiling fan has three wires - live, neutral and ground.
The ceiling box has 4 wires - neutral, ground and live wires (red, black).
When I connect the fan to ceiling box with
Ground to ground
Neutral to neutral
Ceiling black wire to fan live wire.. no power coming to fan
Even if I connect red ceiking wire to fan live wire instead black ceiling wire, still no power to fab.
Any thoughts?
@@ST-pq4dx I have my opinions, but consider checking out Home Depot's How to Wire a Ceiling Fan and see if one of those charts match your situation. I don't want to give any ill advice.
That hunter stratford ii five minute 😊
yup
C'mon dude! Clean up those wires in the switch-box before connecting your wire nuts to freshly stripped wires. Great dialogue though due to concise, gramatical verbal, articulation! Language expert here. Ha!
Thanks for the compliment. Glad nobody will ever see those wires until the switches are replaced!
That box isn’t for a fan install
What do you mean?
This is if your power comes to the switch. Mine comes to the light box...urg
Yes, but still doable if the power comes through the ceiling. You'll just have to lookup the differences in junction box to control. I hope you figured it out.
I want the ceiling fan and the fan light to be controllable from their dedicated switches. My fan only has a blue wire and a white wire. What do I connect to the red wire?
Sounds like you might not have enough wires running to the fan to control them separately. If that's your situation, the only way to do it is either with a dumb remote, or run a new set of wires to the fan.