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This was easiest, clearest video to watch so far about how to handle electrical for light switches, and especially these more complex double switches. Thank you for this!
Thank you Sparky! I’ve watched this video three times each time I’ve installed bath fans in our 70’s home. Your instructions are clear and straightforward. I appreciate you!
Finally someone who made sure the wiring video leaves no room for error. I ordered some of the things you used. 2 hours until I found this very clear video for my ceiling fan/light combo.
I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED AND LEARNED FROM YOUR VIDEO DEMO. BY FINDING THIS AFTER EXTENSIVE SEARCHES, I WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY WIRE UP MY HOMEWERKS BATH FAN WITH BLUETOOTH SPEAKER AND LED LIGHT. I HAVE ALSO SUCCESSFULLY WIRED THE SAME DUAL ROCKER SWITCH AND NOW I HAVE AN UPDATED, BEAUTIFUL BATH FAN WITH GREAT TUNES TO ENJOY. THANK YOU!!! 👍🏼😅👍🏼
That's what I am attempting to do too!! Atleast it worked out for someone else. I will be rewiring everything just like this too. Did you use the included touchscreen switch or just the double duplex switch?
Sparky, you’re definitely a good teacher. Love your clear instructions and the review of what you just did. Thank you as this is exactly what I am doing this weekend.
I just did this exact change in my 100 degree attic. I am remodeling my master bedroom and had to tear out the 75 year old electrical in there. I went into the attic and dug through the insulation to locate the wiring and discovered it’s all wired in a chain with hubs that have 3-4 branches each. My father in law had installed a ceiling fan in the bathroom a few years ago for us and I discovered that he tapped into the bedroom branch. All of the lights and general use outlets are on the same circuit so after turning that off I was able to pull it all out. But then I was so confused with how my FIL wired the light and fan. He didn’t tap into the light switch at all. It still went straight to the light and the fan wasn’t to the light somehow. So I decided to just rewire it and throw in a combo light switch like this. I’m not an electrician but have been watching videos like this. After a while it all suddenly clicked in my head. I used the existing 2 conductor cable to the light switch and cut it from the light. I then stripped those and used those as the load wires and wired those to the two load terminals on the combo switch. Then I fished down a new wire to the switch and used black for line (hot). I capped the neutral. Up in the attic I used the cable I cut from my bedroom branch and wired the black to the black line to the ditch. I then used two short runs to wire black from fan and from light to the two load wires going to switch. Then I tied in the neutrals from both together with the neutral going to the hub where all the other neutrals are tied in. I was pretty nervous but also pretty sure I did it right. Glad I found this video because that’s the exact same switch I used and it makes me feel a little better. Wife was mildly impressed when I flipped them on and they worked flawlessly.
I am an old guy, 80 years young. I must say, this is the finest RUclips video I has ever seen. I hate doing electrical work. My problem is the reverse of this video. I am replacing my old Broan fan w/o light with the one with a light and I want it to work off of one switch. Will I still need to run a 3-wire from the fan/light down to the existing location entering the bathroom? Thanks for this video. Great job.🙂
No, 3 wire is only necessary if you want to control the fan and light at separate times. If you don't mind them working at the same time ( most people don't) you can just us 12-2 and a single pole switch.
Awesome! Removed old and didn't take a picture of the wiring. At wits end, was about to call electrician but RUclips saves the day again! Exactly what I needed! Thanks guy!
Bill--Great presentation--i watched this twice and my fan/light is working in my wife Artist Studio to remove paint fume and increase, air circulation--mounted on the wall to draw from table she works on-Used a Nuvent Scones 1 for the project--Thanks dave
Hey I know this is way late but I just wanted to say thank you very much for this video! It really saved my hide in a pinch. I appreciate your videos very much, Mr. Sparky! :)
That was extremely well done. Thank you. I’m very impressed that the modification was both professionally accomplished and simply explained. I’ll be starting this later this week, with the added modifications of (a) a Leviton motion-sensing switch for the light, and (b) a humidity detecting switch for the fan. I hope it works as planned.
Thanks for the video! I was trying to do it the other way around. My sister doesn’t turn the fan on when she takes 20 minute showers and that’s not good now I can force this to power the light and fan. I just hope she doesn’t decide to just use the other light instead
Great video I’ll be updating my 1960 bathroom soon and have a light/ fan on the same switch. The bathroom is on the main floor with attic access above. Should be fun.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I am a D I Y er. My father used to be a master electrician and share all his knowledge with me, but I still like to review the new standards and codes. Before I do a project on my house. 👍
9:25 - very important information. Running the wire is always the trick on projects like this with existing drywall. It can make or break the entire project from a DIY perspective.
Was really hoping you came up with a new way of doing this with 12/2 and not adding a 12/3. Great video as always. You can always go with the wireless kit switch.
Very nice even though I rent now I feel confident buying a cheap exhaust fan and a piece of 12/3 from a job site off we go thank you for the how-to video
18-minute video that explains in detail. I rather watch this than some 3-minute video that someone just assumes you know things common to them. Why can't the internet be full of educational videos like this one? We would have a lot less digital waste.
Great video. I had the 2 switches for my fan light combo but replaced it with a countdown timer. Do you know of any countdown timer that has a separate control for the light so that I can have a countdown timer and light controlled independently on the same switch?
Outstanding video, I'm scared to try this but I'm going to give it a go. I'm going to attempt a triple light switch as there's currently a dual switch installed for the vanity and main light, so I'll need an extra switch for the fan. Also didn't occur to me to get a triple wago connector for the grounds.
On a all in one bathroom fan/heater and light would you connect the light and fan to the 20 amp bathroom dedicated circuit. And the heater on its own dedicated 20A circuit?. Thanks
I like two separate switches but I put a digital timer on the fan. That way people can put the fan on for 30 minutes (or whatever they select) and go off to work knowing it will go off and not stay on all day. I prefer the Cooper timers (Cooper Wiring Devices 9590AW Aspire 5-Button Preset Minute Timer, Alpine White)
Humidity detecting switches are available now as well. Removes the owner from the equation. It will turn the fan on and off as humidity conditions require. I have a Leviton IPHS5-LW which replaces a standard switch.
Thank you so much for this,,,, I finally got my fixture to work like it should after only 15 years.....lol..... This video did the trick.. I got 5 gold stars from the wife on this one.... It's our little secret tho... lol.... From Auburn Hills, Michigan
A good way to fish the new wire into the wall is to tie the new wire to the old wire before you pull the old wire out so it pulls the new wire with it as long as the old wire isn't stapled to the stud inside the wall. You can also use this same concept to wire separate switches on a ceiling fan/light. They basically have the same wire sets this has. Then you won't always have to turn the fan off with the pull chain if you only want the light and visa versa. Can you make one more like this to show how to wire a vent that has a light, vent and heater to their own switches sometime please?
I have a real tough challenge for you... Get both light and FAN on Rotary Dimmers. Rules: Light and FAN must both be on SEPERATE dimmers. ALL DIMMERS NEED TO BE ROTARY (knob dimmers) Light dimmer needs low end trim. YOU CAN'T USE A DIMMER DESIGNED FOR A LIGHT ON THE FAN, it must be a FAN SPEED CONTROL. FAN Speed Control needs to be fully variable (no 3 speed controls allowed) and have a low end trim too. Low end trim on fan control must be adjusted so the fan runs where you can hear air being sucked in at it's lowest speed. You must use WAGO's to hook up and do the wiring. I've done this challenge, IT IS NOT AS EASY as most think.
this was very informative, and nothing you don't need. Thanks for putting this together. I would imagine having the lights on a dimmer, and the fan on it's own switch is the same as what you've shown here? We currently have a fan/light combo that vents directly into the hip roof.... I need to swap out the unit and vent it correctly. The fan is on its own switch and the light has a dimmer with a small switch on the bottom. Will this work with the new light with existing wiring?
Hi Bill, what’s the cubic inches of the box? I can’t quite make it out but it appears to be 16.5. With the 12/2, 12/3, the switch, and the ground, I would think you would need 18 cu. in.
Nice video. Do you have one on how to wire a combination 3 way switch ? I want to wire my ceiling fan to control fan/light separately from two locations. I know I will need (2) 12-3 wires but I cannot find a wiring diagram for these type switches. Thanks much
Hi Sparky, you always have the best instructions! I figure that a hack is not a good thing in electrical jobs but why couldn't one simply add a single12 gauge wire from the a double switch to the fan and make the connection to one or the other? I'm envisioning a situation where replacing the 12/2 would be impractical. Don't hate on me for asking!
thank you my friend, I watched your video and it helped me a lot I installed a switch for the wind and separate lamp just like the one in the video, I'm an electric amateur, but I'm going to learn a lot from your videos thank you 🙏 😀😀
If my wall were the existing wire runs thought has insulation would it be easier to add a second wire without removing the current one? I am also worried about the current wire being stapled, how easy is it to get the staples off if there are some?
I am installing that exact setup in my bathroom today. I was going to use 12/2 and use jumpers. Would using jumpers with 12/2 instead of using 12/3 be code compliant?
Are you creating a cascade where the fan can only come on when the light is already on? Then I can see a jumper being useful: going from switched light terminal to fan feed terminal.
Wire gauge is determined by the amp rating on the circuit breaker providing power to the circuit feeding the j-box. If circuit breaker is 20 amp then 12 gauge wire is required. If you have a 15 amp circuit breaker then 14 gauge wire is required. However, if you have a 15 amp circuit breaker and use 12 gauge wire, for whatever reason, the circuit is “over-protected” and thus okay.
I have a fan and light combo as well connected to a 2 gang switch setup. I would like to change to a fan with light and speaker Do I really need to change one of the 12/2 wires to 12/3 or can light and fan share same hot wire and save other switch for speaker? Thanks.
You should do a video on a fan with a humidistat that allows the fan to run whenever the sensor detects bathroom humidity above the preset. It is a strange wiring and switching.
I have this set up with the double switch (Thanks to your videos) but I used a Combination three way switches Device and would like to add another double switch device across the room. Is there a way that might be done? Thanks for all your great educational videos.
I'm not an electrician so I need some help installing a exhaust fan / light in my bathroom. The wires from my house are copper, one black, one white and one red. The wires from the new unit has three whites, three blacks and one green. The blacks are lables one as light, one as nightlight and the other has no lable. Would appreciate some help.
Yeah they are made 20 amps as there are rated from like 24 gauge to 12 stranded or solid. They are great when doing work for some things or occasionally as they are much more expensive but still awesome and they make them for 30 amps which is good to 10 gauge since wagons don’t braid wires together it’s much easier to bend they are fully csa/cUL and UL approved
Is it possible to add new wiring for the fan without opening up the wall? This video makes it seem like it's possible to just the fish an additional wire either to the light fixture or to the exhaust fan.. I've contacted a local licensed electrician who said there is no way to achieve this without making several large holes in the ceiling and the adjacent wall.
Running a single wire like that is against building codes. Also, if they're having to make large holes in your wall it's because your attic access doesn't give them enough working space to drill from above.
This separate circuit is used in Europe for chandeliers. a 10 light chandelier may have 5 lights on 1 side of the switch and the other 5 lights on the other side. Are those available in the US or are the lights always switched together and only the fan is separate?
All our lights are usually ran off one switch except ceiling fan/light and bathroom exhaust fan/light we usually run a 12/3 from switch box to the device now say we run 6 led can lights in one room we will run 12/2 and jumó from light to light and use only one switch to control them all
In California, building code title 24 requires that a bathroom fan (for new construction or remodel) must be controlled by a humidity-controlled switch and must be Energy Star compliant. If you measure the current draw of a typical bathroom fan, it is very small, around less than 100 watts, and 14 AWG is all that is necessary, unless installing a fan with built-in heater. Using 12 AWG does ensure you can put in a heating unit at a later date, however.
Keep in mind that some units need a 220V line to run the heating element though. They usually just run the light and vent off of 1 leg of the 220V line. At least that's how it used to be done with older units.
Some installations may have the original 12/2 stapled in the wall cavity so it might just be easier to add an additional 12/2 to the fan/light combo instead of replacing it.
I was kind of hoping you were going to show some fantastic, new way to get independent switches on a fan and a light with the existing 2/with ground cable. It would likely involve wireless relay controller. There is the naughty way, but it is completely out of code, so I won't tell you how to do it. Keep your house fires in a regularly cleaned and inspected fireplace.
Realistically, when your doing this, most, not all homes, but most homes don't allow you to change out existing romex to a 12/3 easily lol And why are you using 14/3?, just curious 🤔. Your awesome sparky.
White is a neutral color but in your era of house they sometimes used the white wire as part of a switch leg. They were supposed to color code the wire black but sometimes they didn't.
Hi ,Sparky, when I took the old light fixtures, I have 2 black wires wrap in a wire nut, a red wire hooked to the fixture and another black wire hooked to the white wire of the fixture, what are those 2 wrap wires then ? Thanks
I have a bathroom fixture that has a built in night light plus the fan and ceiling light in it. I have a 14/2 powering the bathroom. What’s the best switch to use and how do you wire it. Thanks
Thank you so much for this informative video. I have a similar setup in my bathroom, but I want to install a timer switch for my fan. I copied the wire setup of my non-timer switch and no luck. Any idea why that is?
Thanks! This video might help: How to Find Line and Load Wires and Install a Lutron Timer Switch MA- T51MN-WH Neutral Required: ruclips.net/video/Lar_6FaU8q8/видео.html
@@SparkyChannel Thank you so much for the reply, turns out the switch itself was faulty. I replaced it with a new one & followed your instructions. It worked!
How much time do you spend in the bathroom? When I shut off power via the circuit breaker, I never assume the breaker is working by insulating the bare hot wire. I've had old and brand new breakers fail!
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This was easiest, clearest video to watch so far about how to handle electrical for light switches, and especially these more complex double switches. Thank you for this!
My pleasure, thanks!
Thank you Sparky! I’ve watched this video three times each time I’ve installed bath fans in our 70’s home. Your instructions are clear and straightforward. I appreciate you!
Glad it helped!
Finally someone who made sure the wiring video leaves no room for error. I ordered some of the things you used. 2 hours until I found this very clear video for my ceiling fan/light combo.
Glad I could help! Thanks so much!
I HAVE REALLY ENJOYED AND LEARNED FROM YOUR VIDEO DEMO. BY FINDING THIS AFTER EXTENSIVE SEARCHES, I WAS ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY WIRE UP MY HOMEWERKS BATH FAN WITH BLUETOOTH SPEAKER AND LED LIGHT. I HAVE ALSO SUCCESSFULLY WIRED THE SAME DUAL ROCKER SWITCH AND NOW I HAVE AN UPDATED, BEAUTIFUL BATH FAN WITH GREAT TUNES TO ENJOY. THANK YOU!!! 👍🏼😅👍🏼
That's what I am attempting to do too!! Atleast it worked out for someone else. I will be rewiring everything just like this too. Did you use the included touchscreen switch or just the double duplex switch?
Sparky, you’re definitely a good teacher. Love your clear instructions and the review of what you just did. Thank you as this is exactly what I am doing this weekend.
Thanks Michael!
I just did this exact change in my 100 degree attic. I am remodeling my master bedroom and had to tear out the 75 year old electrical in there. I went into the attic and dug through the insulation to locate the wiring and discovered it’s all wired in a chain with hubs that have 3-4 branches each. My father in law had installed a ceiling fan in the bathroom a few years ago for us and I discovered that he tapped into the bedroom branch. All of the lights and general use outlets are on the same circuit so after turning that off I was able to pull it all out. But then I was so confused with how my FIL wired the light and fan. He didn’t tap into the light switch at all. It still went straight to the light and the fan wasn’t to the light somehow. So I decided to just rewire it and throw in a combo light switch like this. I’m not an electrician but have been watching videos like this. After a while it all suddenly clicked in my head. I used the existing 2 conductor cable to the light switch and cut it from the light. I then stripped those and used those as the load wires and wired those to the two load terminals on the combo switch. Then I fished down a new wire to the switch and used black for line (hot). I capped the neutral. Up in the attic I used the cable I cut from my bedroom branch and wired the black to the black line to the ditch. I then used two short runs to wire black from fan and from light to the two load wires going to switch. Then I tied in the neutrals from both together with the neutral going to the hub where all the other neutrals are tied in.
I was pretty nervous but also pretty sure I did it right. Glad I found this video because that’s the exact same switch I used and it makes me feel a little better. Wife was mildly impressed when I flipped them on and they worked flawlessly.
I am an old guy, 80 years young. I must say, this is the finest RUclips video I has ever seen.
I hate doing electrical work. My problem is the reverse of this video. I am replacing my old Broan fan w/o light with the one with a light and I want it to work off of one switch.
Will I still need to run a 3-wire from the fan/light down to the existing location entering the bathroom?
Thanks for this video. Great job.🙂
No, 3 wire is only necessary if you want to control the fan and light at separate times. If you don't mind them working at the same time ( most people don't) you can just us 12-2 and a single pole switch.
New subscriber!! You’re the first person to actually show detailed step by step process of wiring a fan…. THANK YOU SIR!!
My pleasure, thanks! Welcome to Sparky Channel!
Awesome! Removed old and didn't take a picture of the wiring. At wits end, was about to call electrician but RUclips saves the day again! Exactly what I needed! Thanks guy!
Glad it helped!
Bill--Great presentation--i watched this twice and my fan/light is working in my wife Artist Studio to remove paint fume and increase, air circulation--mounted on the wall to draw from table she works on-Used a Nuvent Scones 1 for the project--Thanks dave
Excellent content. Thanks for sharing. Clear presentation and to the point in detail. Hats off to you, Sir.
thank you so much. no one post videos explaining the wires. needed this. not an electrician lol
Hey I know this is way late but I just wanted to say thank you very much for this video! It really saved my hide in a pinch. I appreciate your videos very much, Mr. Sparky! :)
You're very welcome!
Thank you so much, you are the best instructor on RUclips by far
Thank you for great explanation for a layman. You saved me a trip to homedepot and a lot of time.
That was extremely well done. Thank you. I’m very impressed that the modification was both professionally accomplished and simply explained. I’ll be starting this later this week, with the added modifications of (a) a Leviton motion-sensing switch for the light, and (b) a humidity detecting switch for the fan. I hope it works as planned.
Thanks and best wishes!
Very clear, detailed, and just the right pace of instruction. Thank you, sir. Keep up the good work!😄
Thanks so much!
Thanks for the video! I was trying to do it the other way around. My sister doesn’t turn the fan on when she takes 20 minute showers and that’s not good now I can force this to power the light and fan. I just hope she doesn’t decide to just use the other light instead
Great video I’ll be updating my 1960 bathroom soon and have a light/ fan on the same switch. The bathroom is on the main floor with attic access above. Should be fun.
Good luck!
Probably one of the best videos explaining and showing how exactly to do this. Very very handy thank you.
Glad you liked it!
+1 for the lever-Wago in this mixed stranded+solid combo. These combos can be impossible to get right with cheap/free wirenuts.
I agree, thanks!
Thank you for sharing your knowledge.
I am a D I Y er. My father used to be a master electrician and share all his knowledge with me, but I still like to review the new standards and codes. Before I do a project on my house. 👍
9:25 - very important information.
Running the wire is always the trick on projects like this with existing drywall. It can make or break the entire project from a DIY perspective.
Was really hoping you came up with a new way of doing this with 12/2 and not adding a 12/3. Great video as always. You can always go with the wireless kit switch.
Thanks!
Thanks buddy. I just finished installing my new bath fan by following your very clear instructions step by step. You’re awesome!!!
Great to hear! Great job!
Love those little how-to vids Wild Bill ... Your a great tutor ...
Thanks Eddy!
Very nice even though I rent now I feel confident buying a cheap exhaust fan and a piece of 12/3 from a job site off we go thank you for the how-to video
Explained so well that it make sense so perfectly. Thank you so much making and sharing this video with us. Much appreciated Sir.👍👍👍👍👍
Glad it was helpful!
Do you think you can make a video for a 3-in-1 (Light, Heater, Vent) wired/powered with their own switch separately? Thanks
Ya I was wondering the same thing.did you figure it out yet?
Same concept, only you'll need to use a 12/4 instead.
OUTSTANDING VIDEO!! Thank You for sharing and reminding me to the good ole High School days in Plumbing class. :)
My pleasure! Thanks Lou!
18-minute video that explains in detail. I rather watch this than some 3-minute video that someone just assumes you know things common to them. Why can't the internet be full of educational videos like this one? We would have a lot less digital waste.
Thanks Juan!
Good video Sparky. Lots of fan/light combos added in older bathrooms.
Yes, and a lot of them are on the same switch. Have a great weekend Gary!
Great video. I had the 2 switches for my fan light combo but replaced it with a countdown timer. Do you know of any countdown timer that has a separate control for the light so that I can have a countdown timer and light controlled independently on the same switch?
Outstanding video, I'm scared to try this but I'm going to give it a go. I'm going to attempt a triple light switch as there's currently a dual switch installed for the vanity and main light, so I'll need an extra switch for the fan. Also didn't occur to me to get a triple wago connector for the grounds.
On a all in one bathroom fan/heater and light would you connect the light and fan to the 20 amp bathroom dedicated circuit. And the heater on its own dedicated 20A circuit?. Thanks
No, the light and fan are not a significant load to be added to the heater circuit.
One of the best examples out there. Many thanks for making great videos.
Thanks so much!
Very clear! I appreciate the summaries at the end of each step.
Glad it was helpful, thanks!
Very informative. You get and explain it right to the point loud and clear !!!
Thanks so much!
I like two separate switches but I put a digital timer on the fan. That way people can put the fan on for 30 minutes (or whatever they select) and go off to work knowing it will go off and not stay on all day. I prefer the Cooper timers (Cooper Wiring Devices 9590AW Aspire 5-Button Preset Minute Timer, Alpine White)
Humidity detecting switches are available now as well. Removes the owner from the equation. It will turn the fan on and off as humidity conditions require. I have a Leviton IPHS5-LW which replaces a standard switch.
Thank you so much for this,,,, I finally got my fixture to work like it should after only 15 years.....lol..... This video did the trick.. I got 5 gold stars from the wife on this one.... It's our little secret tho... lol.... From Auburn Hills, Michigan
great video. ...if you had two circuits, what would happen with the neutrals? will they be connected all together?
A good way to fish the new wire into the wall is to tie the new wire to the old wire before you pull the old wire out so it pulls the new wire with it as long as the old wire isn't stapled to the stud inside the wall. You can also use this same concept to wire separate switches on a ceiling fan/light. They basically have the same wire sets this has. Then you won't always have to turn the fan off with the pull chain if you only want the light and visa versa. Can you make one more like this to show how to wire a vent that has a light, vent and heater to their own switches sometime please?
I have a real tough challenge for you... Get both light and FAN on Rotary Dimmers.
Rules:
Light and FAN must both be on SEPERATE dimmers.
ALL DIMMERS NEED TO BE ROTARY (knob dimmers)
Light dimmer needs low end trim.
YOU CAN'T USE A DIMMER DESIGNED FOR A LIGHT ON THE FAN, it must be a FAN SPEED CONTROL.
FAN Speed Control needs to be fully variable (no 3 speed controls allowed) and have a low end trim too.
Low end trim on fan control must be adjusted so the fan runs where you can hear air being sucked in at it's lowest speed.
You must use WAGO's to hook up and do the wiring.
I've done this challenge, IT IS NOT AS EASY as most think.
Great video. Thanks for not having to search for what I needed.
this was very informative, and nothing you don't need. Thanks for putting this together. I would imagine having the lights on a dimmer, and the fan on it's own switch is the same as what you've shown here? We currently have a fan/light combo that vents directly into the hip roof.... I need to swap out the unit and vent it correctly. The fan is on its own switch and the light has a dimmer with a small switch on the bottom. Will this work with the new light with existing wiring?
Very easy and well explained instructions to follow. Thanks for posting this...
Glad it was helpful!
Hi Bill, what’s the cubic inches of the box? I can’t quite make it out but it appears to be 16.5. With the 12/2, 12/3, the switch, and the ground, I would think you would need 18 cu. in.
Not sure, I'll check.
@@SparkyChannel So, any update on the box fill?
Thank you for making this video. This is exactly what I need.
Thanks wiring up a little camp, this really helped.
Nice video. Do you have one on how to wire a combination 3 way switch ? I want to wire my ceiling fan to control fan/light separately from two locations. I know I will need (2) 12-3 wires but I cannot find a wiring diagram for these type switches. Thanks much
What if feed goes to the light/fan 1st what would the wiring look like. Thank you
Would very much like to know how to do the same switch with the power coming into the fan/light and not into the switch.
Hi Sparky, you always have the best instructions! I figure that a hack is not a good thing in electrical jobs but why couldn't one simply add a single12 gauge wire from the a double switch to the fan and make the connection to one or the other? I'm envisioning a situation where replacing the 12/2 would be impractical. Don't hate on me for asking!
You can't run just one unprotected wire. You could run a 2ned 2/2 with ground though.
@@SparkyChannel Thanks Bill, that makes sense.
@@SparkyChannel don’t you mean 2nd 12/2 also is there any alternative instead of fishing new wire?
This video is so incredibly helpful.
Thank you Sparky!
Thanks!
thank you my friend, I watched your video and it helped me a lot I installed a switch for the wind and separate lamp just like the one in the video, I'm an electric amateur, but I'm going to learn a lot from your videos thank you 🙏 😀😀
Glad it helped!
If my wall were the existing wire runs thought has insulation would it be easier to add a second wire without removing the current one? I am also worried about the current wire being stapled, how easy is it to get the staples off if there are some?
Great delivery! Easy to understand and follow. EVEN, for a blonde such as myself. THANK YOU!! Subscribed and all notifications on.
Awesome! Thank you!
Great presentation. Very clean and safe install!!
Thanks!
I am installing that exact setup in my bathroom today. I was going to use 12/2 and use jumpers. Would using jumpers with 12/2 instead of using 12/3 be code compliant?
What do you mean by jumpers!? The only good way to not use 12/3, is to use a remote control fan+light.
Are you creating a cascade where the fan can only come on when the light is already on? Then I can see a jumper being useful: going from switched light terminal to fan feed terminal.
I was going to install one of these today in my mothers bathroom but i only have 16/2 speaker wire so il try the ‘jumper method’
@@Flatearth69 Don't you love your mother?
@@Flatearth69 16/2 will most likely catch on fire. Don't use it.
Such a great video, very clear and good way of explaining. Thank you!
Wire gauge is determined by the amp rating on the circuit breaker providing power to the circuit feeding the j-box. If circuit breaker is 20 amp then 12 gauge wire is required. If you have a 15 amp circuit breaker then 14 gauge wire is required. However, if you have a 15 amp circuit breaker and use 12 gauge wire, for whatever reason, the circuit is “over-protected” and thus okay.
Thank you for this video! It was clear and concise. Very helpful!
You're very welcome!
You saved the day today! Thank you sir for sharing this info with all of us.
Glad to help!
I have a fan and light combo as well connected to a 2 gang switch setup. I would like to change to a fan with light and speaker Do I really need to change one of the 12/2 wires to 12/3 or can light and fan share same hot wire and save other switch for speaker? Thanks.
You should do a video on a fan with a humidistat that allows the fan to run whenever the sensor detects bathroom humidity above the preset. It is a strange wiring and switching.
Is that the one where you run a 14/2/2 wire?
I have this set up with the double switch (Thanks to your videos) but I used a Combination three way switches Device and would like to add another double switch device across the room. Is there a way that might be done? Thanks for all your great educational videos.
I'm not an electrician so I need some help installing a exhaust fan / light in my bathroom. The wires from my house are copper, one black, one white and one red. The wires from the new unit has three whites, three blacks and one green. The blacks are lables one as light, one as nightlight and the other has no lable. Would appreciate some help.
You def should call an electrician.
I figured it out
useful info sir and fellow Indiana native. I will use this coming across a project( new install) or repair/replacement of this (existing function)!
Excellent! Yes, Ii do hail from Indiana! :)
Great Video. Are the Wago 221's safe for home use? I have always used a Wire Nut.
Yeah they are made 20 amps as there are rated from like 24 gauge to 12 stranded or solid. They are great when doing work for some things or occasionally as they are much more expensive but still awesome and they make them for 30 amps which is good to 10 gauge since wagons don’t braid wires together it’s much easier to bend they are fully csa/cUL and UL approved
Outstanding video!! Thank you so much for a very detailed and easy to follow video
My man you rock on this video. It helped me so much, thank you
My pleasure, thanks!
Is it possible to add new wiring for the fan without opening up the wall? This video makes it seem like it's possible to just the fish an additional wire either to the light fixture or to the exhaust fan..
I've contacted a local licensed electrician who said there is no way to achieve this without making several large holes in the ceiling and the adjacent wall.
Running a single wire like that is against building codes. Also, if they're having to make large holes in your wall it's because your attic access doesn't give them enough working space to drill from above.
This separate circuit is used in Europe for chandeliers. a 10 light chandelier may have 5 lights on 1 side of the switch and the other 5 lights on the other side. Are those available in the US or are the lights always switched together and only the fan is separate?
All our lights are usually ran off one switch except ceiling fan/light and bathroom exhaust fan/light we usually run a 12/3 from switch box to the device now say we run 6 led can lights in one room we will run 12/2 and jumó from light to light and use only one switch to control them all
In California, building code title 24 requires that a bathroom fan (for new construction or remodel) must be controlled by a humidity-controlled switch and must be Energy Star compliant. If you measure the current draw of a typical bathroom fan, it is very small, around less than 100 watts, and 14 AWG is all that is necessary, unless installing a fan with built-in heater. Using 12 AWG does ensure you can put in a heating unit at a later date, however.
Keep in mind that some units need a 220V line to run the heating element though. They usually just run the light and vent off of 1 leg of the 220V line. At least that's how it used to be done with older units.
I’ve been wanting to do this in my bathroom at home. Now I know how to do it. Thank you.
Excellent, thanks Steven!
Some installations may have the original 12/2 stapled in the wall cavity so it might just be easier to add an additional 12/2 to the fan/light combo instead of replacing it.
I was kind of hoping you were going to show some fantastic, new way to get independent switches on a fan and a light with the existing 2/with ground cable. It would likely involve wireless relay controller. There is the naughty way, but it is completely out of code, so I won't tell you how to do it. Keep your house fires in a regularly cleaned and inspected fireplace.
Thanks Robert!
Muy buen video explicado me ayudó al 💯 a instalar mi ventilación de mi baño
Gracias por brindar este tipo de video que ayudan demasiado
¡Gracias!
Bless you sir and all of your wonderful videos.
You're very welcome!
Just used this video to install my fan. Works great! Thanks!
Glad it helped!
Please how to install switch for fun, light, and heater. Thanks
That unit needs 2 circuits
@@michaeltreen8785 this for your help
Thanks, Sparky, you save my life. Keep it up. 👏
Thanks, will do!
Realistically, when your doing this, most, not all homes, but most homes don't allow you to change out existing romex to a 12/3 easily lol And why are you using 14/3?, just curious 🤔. Your awesome sparky.
The 12/3 allows for a heating unit later if desired.
Awesome. Nice and neat and easy to follow instructions. A+ my man!
Glad it helped!
I truly enjoy your videos. Thank you again for sharing your knowledge.
You are very welcome, thanks!
Awesome video! I am doing this exact thing in my bathroom!
Good luck!!
Thanks so much. Very informative
Great video, most bathrooms has 14/2 wire unless it has a heater right?
Yes, that is correct.
hey Sparky love the video as usual, so what do we do with the white neutral since there is only ground and 2 hots?
In that case you would securely cap it, and put it in the back of the box.
Excellent explanation of the connections. Thank you
My pleasure, thanks!
You're AWESOME Sparky thank you!! My house was built in 1959, it seems that both the white and black are hot in my house...the white isn't neutral?
White is a neutral color but in your era of house they sometimes used the white wire as part of a switch leg. They were supposed to color code the wire black but sometimes they didn't.
Awesome video...are the wago connectors have different gauges?
Hi ,Sparky, when I took the old light fixtures, I have 2 black wires wrap in a wire nut, a red wire hooked to the fixture and another black wire hooked to the white wire of the fixture, what are those 2 wrap wires then ? Thanks
I have a bathroom fixture that has a built in night light plus the fan and ceiling light in it. I have a 14/2 powering the bathroom. What’s the best switch to use and how do you wire it. Thanks
Hello. How do you splice the neutral wires in a two gang three way ? All the whites together ??🤔🤔🤔🤔
Thank you so much for this informative video. I have a similar setup in my bathroom, but I want to install a timer switch for my fan. I copied the wire setup of my non-timer switch and no luck. Any idea why that is?
Thanks! This video might help: How to Find Line and Load Wires and Install a Lutron Timer Switch MA- T51MN-WH Neutral Required: ruclips.net/video/Lar_6FaU8q8/видео.html
@@SparkyChannel Thank you so much for the reply, turns out the switch itself was faulty. I replaced it with a new one & followed your instructions. It worked!
Very good explanation. Appreciate this.
Thank you for such a comprehensive video! Super helpful!
You're so welcome!
How much time do you spend in the bathroom?
When I shut off power via the circuit breaker, I never assume the breaker is working by insulating the bare hot wire. I've had old and brand new breakers fail!