@@Charles-tt3dr LL guess basically licked his lips amrap for the approval of girls. That's all he did. Kool Moe Dee by far was a better rapper and made better music.
Superman The Dj by the time Kool Moe Dee came out as a solo artist and had problems with LL he was already past his prime. In the late 70s early 80s Moe Dee was like a rap superhero. Him Mele Mel and Caz inspired the entire next generation of rappers that came out. Ex. Rakim, Kane, and most surely LL himself.
Kool Moe Dee did set it off for battle rap and deserves a lot of props..A lot of rappers got better lyrically when they had to battle someone else and show their skills, back when having skills mattered lol.
These Interviews are like the inside scoop of behind the scenes of the tapes of the glory days of Hip Hop before things were filmed and Records were recorded! Truly Classic!
I know I'm not from the 80s but I do jam to Kool Moe Dee. I started with "How Ya Like Me Now", this Album is amazing and is a true Hip-Hop masterpiece ❤
Grandmaster Caz forgot 1 thing. Busy Bee was cocky asf at that time, which he did back it up because he was winning competitions. Kool Moe Dee wasn't having any of it and change the standard of battle rap forever.
much respect to Caz. if u want a real deep history of hip hop check out the 360 mix show with kool moe dee. awsome history lesson . one of the best hip hop interviews ive ever heard
Yo I was there in '88 when Mel took Mikey D's belts and bopped off with Caz. He tricked Mikey D he was suppose to be handing him the '88 champ belt since he was the '87 champ. Mel outta no where says "and now the new champ has to battle the old champ" Mel took both them sh*ts and bopped . Mikey D was like "yo who won yall think I won or he won?" Yo aaybody was like "you won,Mikey D won" yo Mel was like "well I'll take my two belts now" yo Caz handed him the belts they bopped off into the sunset with a bunch of other Bronx cats.Tom Silverman said he would replace Mikey D's belt, sh*t was funny...
Real talk. People always vote on battles based on believability, and I try to explain to them that believability has nothing to do with how good of a rapper/MC you. It's who has the best bars, not who really sells drugs and has the biggest gun. #barsovereverything
During the NYC blackout of 77, Grandmaster Caz as known as Casanova fly, went and looted a mixer. Days later, DJ's kept turning up on every block and every corner.
I wish Smack and them would get things right. Instead of consistently trying to book an industry or legend vs another battle rapper. Why not book an industry vs industry battle or legend vs legend battle for the main event? They would make so much money Caz VS Dee LL VS Dee 2 DMX VS Ja Rule 50 VS Ja Rule Jay VS Nas (wouldn't happen in a mil years) Jada Kiss VS Beanie Sigel (unresolved issues) Method Man VS Joe Budden (unresolved issues) Kim VS Nicki (Kim would thrash her) Cassidy VS Meek etc etc etc
“How ya think it feel to see another MC getting paid, for using my rap style” “I’ll take a whip and make you call yourself Toby” Moe Dee killed all competition ✊🏽✊🏽
Come on b im 27 and know all about what happened then.these other young fools mite not do the research but there is a minority of us that do the research
VLAD that video was on point. That follow up question about Melle Mel was great. Your rumor was proven to be false but Caz's story book ended the whole conversation about battle rapping and what is really "battle rapping". What I want to know was did you know you were going to ask that question or was it off the cuff?
he spitting the truth tho. battle rap has turned into something totally different than what it used to be. not complaining cause I do rock with the shit.
Kool Moe Dee was the 1st one on film to address another rapper straight up but battle rap was a nyc thing, can he really take the credit for actually being the one who started the act of dissing a man to his face on the mic? I really don't think so!
milkywaymusic : KOOL MOE DEE vs BUSY BEE 🐝 STARSKI happened @ HARLEM WORLD 🌎 NYC 1981 , before that NO one ☝️ had got PERSONAL on another MC back then 🤦🏿♂️ I’m from that ERA of HIP-HOP for I had the cassette tapes and went to some of the BATTLES during that time ⏰
CAZ YOU DONT WANNA SEE MOE DEE IN NO RAP BATTLE MOE WOULD ROCK YOU DUDE AS MOE SAID IN HIS RAP SONG GOTTA ROCK 50% RAPPERS ARE CLONES OF MOE DEE TRYING TO USE BIG WORDS SO THEY CAN SEEM SMARTER DEEPIN THEIR VOICES SO THEY CAN ROCK HARDER!!
I don't think he understands the new age battlers.. Bc they DO battle using mc skills( punchlines, metaphors etc..) while simultaneously talking trash to each other.. So its actually a lot more difficult to do than what he's talking about..
One of the first great emcees who elevated the art of emceeing and influenced people like Kane, Puba, Rakim and others don't understand battle rappers nowadays and you do? Yeah ok.....
Disrespectful Caz. Mikey D is a real as an MC as Mel or yourself. Rhyming off the top of your head is MC'ing it can't get any more real than that. Mikey D is a Queens battle rap legend and he schooled Bronx cat on that day in 88' and The great Melle Mel knows he took an L and can never say he never lost a battle. Say his name Playboy Mikey D aka Mikey Destruction
The one that won the battle, was the one that was left standing... LL. When he dropped Mama Said Knock You Out, it was a wrap. LL has his own style, Moe Dee has his own style. LL wouldn’t sound right saying Moe Dee’s rhymes and vice versa. LL didn’t have to make whole songs to diss you, he did it with a line or two. Just like when he dissed EPMD and Slick Rick. It took Moe Dee way more bars to get his point across than it did LL. Prime example, Jay-Z ... “I’m about a dollar, what the fu** is 50 cent”. Bottom line, every rapper ain’t gotta fire a bunch of body shots to get you, some just go straight for the head out the chamber with one or two lines.
"...you probably COULD kill me....but you AIN'T A BETTER EMCEE THAN I AM."
That's all it boils down to. Awesome statement.
Real Talk!!!
Real talk
Somebody needed to tell 50 cent that ish
Good point
"This about bars, it's not about rollies, it's not about cars" - Cassidy
I am a huge LL Cool J fan. but in the battle between LL Cool J and Kool Moe Dee. I have to say that k.m.d. won the battle.
Not too many people share the same opinion as you & i. KMD won that battle. Hands down was a better lyricist. L.L Cool J made hotter music.
U r right
@@Charles-tt3dr LL guess basically licked his lips amrap for the approval of girls. That's all he did. Kool Moe Dee by far was a better rapper and made better music.
@@ronnrogers9459 And he stole Tla Rock's style
Superman The Dj by the time Kool Moe Dee came out as a solo artist and had problems with LL he was already past his prime. In the late 70s early 80s Moe Dee was like a rap superhero. Him Mele Mel and Caz inspired the entire next generation of rappers that came out. Ex. Rakim, Kane, and most surely LL himself.
Kool More Dee. A lyrical genius. That's it..... The "new pop trap rapper" would never understand.
Kool Moe Dee did set it off for battle rap and deserves a lot of props..A lot of rappers got better lyrically when they had to battle someone else and show their skills, back when having skills mattered lol.
Nobody give a fuck
ol305stunna I give a fuck. People always be trying to speak for everybody.
+eness244 lol right
ol305stunna yeah and busy bee was the 50 cent of the 80 lmao not everybody was conscience about rap fuck caz why he trying to hate on the west coast.
These Interviews are like the inside scoop of behind the scenes of the tapes of the glory days of Hip Hop before things were filmed and Records were recorded! Truly Classic!
Kool Moe Dee was vicious back then for that time....and I think he beat LL Cool J.
tswagg504 He did beat LL there's no doubt about that.
He did.
I believe Kool More Dee beat LL Cool J
+octavius simplicitous I agree with you
fooloof go back and listen. he killed LL Cool J
The Cold Crush Brothers are very underrated!!
The fact is that LL is good in a record battle but face to face, he know Kool Moe Dee gon to eat him alive.
I know I'm not from the 80s but I do jam to Kool Moe Dee.
I started with "How Ya Like Me Now", this Album is amazing and is a true Hip-Hop masterpiece ❤
Respect. You did your home(boy)work. Lol.
Caz got mad competitive thats was dope that made me wanna hear him spit right now
Hearin' him tell stories like that does do that. Dudes way too interesting.
I enjoy listening to somebody like Grandmaster Caz, talk Hip Hop History. Love it 100%, keep teach the young kids on some Real Hip Hop Shit!
Mohundas Dewes is the greatest MC to me. I’m not talking beats or how good the production of songs are. Moe Dee is a genius MC!!!!
KRS 1 also made comments on Kool Moe D battling Bizzy B saying this is what it's all about.
mansamusa2012 IT's Busy Bee not Bizzy B.
Deshawn Vaughn Thanks
+D VAUGHN lol
I was there in 1981!! Classic!!
@@garyshuler7702 : HARLEM WORLD 1981, I STILL HAVE THE TAPE 👍🏾
Narrow minds don't know true lyricism.
Love these interviews with the OG
Krack Diesel true
It’s amazing how humble Vlad used to come across in these interviews, only a few years later he became the star of the show 😂
Grandmaster Caz forgot 1 thing. Busy Bee was cocky asf at that time, which he did back it up because he was winning competitions. Kool Moe Dee wasn't having any of it and change the standard of battle rap forever.
much respect to Caz. if u want a real deep history of hip hop check out the 360 mix show with kool moe dee. awsome history lesson . one of the best hip hop interviews ive ever heard
Peace to the God Grandmaster Caz
Yo I was there in '88 when Mel took Mikey D's belts and bopped off with Caz. He tricked Mikey D he was suppose to be handing him the '88 champ belt since he was the '87 champ. Mel outta no where says "and now the new champ has to battle the old champ" Mel took both them sh*ts and bopped . Mikey D was like "yo who won yall think I won or he won?" Yo aaybody was like "you won,Mikey D won" yo Mel was like "well I'll take my two belts now" yo Caz handed him the belts they bopped off into the sunset with a bunch of other Bronx cats.Tom Silverman said he would replace Mikey D's belt, sh*t was funny...
Kool g rap use to battle back in 86
Kool G Rap Yo what's your blood brother Ant Live doing?
Microphone Fiend Shan and Silver Fox have also said that we rhymed with the more Juice Crew and pre polo, I’m guessing like 82-85ish?
Yo Vlad, why don't you get Moe Dee and do an interview with him?
Good question. It’s been damn near a decade & VladTV hasn’t been interviewing the originators much at all anymore. “Sad.” lol
Lyrically I feel Kool Moe Dee eclipsed LL Cool J. Don't get me wrong LL is nice though. And his beats were nasty.
“Busy was rockin the crowd...Moe Dee was rockin Busy!” 😂😂😂😂💀
😂😂 That a classic line
I love Caz, but Moe Dee would've got him. Still in my top 5. Kool Moe Dee vs. Caz or Melle Mel would've been 🔥 though.
I lose respect for Vlad when he asks stupid shit to a legend. This is hip hop!
Scott travis never heard of this legend when was he relevant.
Real talk. People always vote on battles based on believability, and I try to explain to them that believability has nothing to do with how good of a rapper/MC you. It's who has the best bars, not who really sells drugs and has the biggest gun. #barsovereverything
Preach Caz. Mo Dee vs. Busy Bee was classic. Mo Dee destroyed him. Respect to both though.
Lol u can destroy anyone that doesn’t fight back. Busy bee a cool dude
During the NYC blackout of 77, Grandmaster Caz as known as Casanova fly, went and looted a mixer. Days later, DJ's kept turning up on every block and every corner.
I wish Smack and them would get things right. Instead of consistently trying to book an industry or legend vs another battle rapper. Why not book an industry vs industry battle or legend vs legend battle for the main event? They would make so much money
Caz VS Dee
LL VS Dee 2
DMX VS Ja Rule
50 VS Ja Rule
Jay VS Nas (wouldn't happen in a mil years)
Jada Kiss VS Beanie Sigel (unresolved issues)
Method Man VS Joe Budden (unresolved issues)
Kim VS Nicki (Kim would thrash her)
Cassidy VS Meek
etc etc etc
Nobody wanna see any of that shit
KmILLz yeah because somehow, in some imaginary never-never land of a place, you magically speak for the mouths of EVERYONE.
Right I would watch all that shit except nicki and kim
And it should be 50 vs game
30_30Certified another good match up!
“How ya think it feel to see another MC getting paid, for using my rap style”
“I’ll take a whip and make you call yourself Toby”
Moe Dee killed all competition ✊🏽✊🏽
Best interview and summary of battling! Thank you!!
From what I hear that was a legendary battle like ARS said about Kool Moe Dee he changed the way rappers rap back then
If u ain't 30 or better... Don't comment.. U kno nothing about it
True
Come on b im 27 and know all about what happened then.these other young fools mite not do the research but there is a minority of us that do the research
***** u right.. I said 30 just giving the benefit of the doubt
Don Dada fair enough brother I understand where u coming from tho
I'm right behind u 37
Sorry. Kool Moe Dee killed L.L.
+KingMellow11 FUCKIN RIGHT
Moe Dee did smash LL, but L is absolutely NOT overrated.
They never battled not record sales
@Amazin On Dat Beat nope.
@P. Da Punisher Moe Dee hit um with the death blow. .you must've forgot!!!!!!????
Buddy tongue flopping out the side of his mouth like billy from the grim adventures of billy and Mandy 🤣
Love the history and honesty.
VLAD that video was on point. That follow up question about Melle Mel was great. Your rumor was proven to be false but Caz's story book ended the whole conversation about battle rapping and what is really "battle rapping". What I want to know was did you know you were going to ask that question or was it off the cuff?
Buzy Bee was just a hype man, fool wasn't even a rapper really. Moe Dee BURIED him, it was one of the first legendary bootlegs to hear that set.
You hear that battle rappers!!!
Kool Moe Dee was furious on the mic
Caz game the definitive definition of a battle rapping m.c. That conversation is text book worthy.
I love these stories I can listen to these old school stories all day this is what it's about do your homework new rapper.
I could listen to Caz all day. Cheers.
thumbnail: that look you have when you know someone is lying, but you let them dig themselves a deeper grave.
please make it a meme
this is a hip hop legend #respect
Caz vs Dee! Book it!
Real recognise real. Respect
True
7:10 That's the modern battle rap audience.
When a legend speaks people should listen
Caz with all due respect Mikey Dee is as real as it gets as an emcee.
Kool Moe really showed how Busy Bee (a legend in his own right) had a dated style.
Caz basically robbed Mikey D of the victory because he was cool with Moe Dee. Moral of the story, always have a neutral party hold the belt
he spitting the truth tho. battle rap has turned into something totally different than what it used to be. not complaining cause I do rock with the shit.
Kool Moe Dee was the 1st one on film to address another rapper straight up but battle rap was a nyc thing, can he really take the credit for actually being the one who started the act of dissing a man to his face on the mic? I really don't think so!
milkywaymusic : KOOL MOE DEE vs BUSY BEE 🐝 STARSKI happened @ HARLEM WORLD 🌎 NYC 1981 , before that NO one ☝️ had got PERSONAL on another MC back then 🤦🏿♂️ I’m from that ERA of HIP-HOP for I had the cassette tapes and went to some of the BATTLES during that time ⏰
Rap battle not about who's more lyrical. I wanna see you attack the opponent
He beat cool j!
MIKEY DEE was LL Cool J's old partner...
mukey d is my man.he deserved that belt.
#Facts!
The people who actually think goodz beat Cassidy need to watch this.
I remember that battle and Mellie Mel definitely won
Where is Kool Moe Dee ?
He is a College Professor!
I saw a crowd rocker lyrically f*ck up an emcee who was coming at him.
Is it just me or does he kinda look like beetlejuice i also thought he looked liked that lol but grandmaster caz is awesome
BOTTOM LINE --- GRANDMASTER CAZ..... IZ THAT DUDE !!!!!!
CAZ YOU DONT WANNA SEE MOE DEE IN NO RAP BATTLE MOE WOULD ROCK YOU DUDE AS MOE SAID IN HIS RAP SONG GOTTA ROCK 50% RAPPERS ARE CLONES OF MOE DEE TRYING TO USE BIG WORDS SO THEY CAN SEEM SMARTER DEEPIN THEIR VOICES SO THEY CAN ROCK HARDER!!
So and so ☑️
Such and such ☑️
This and that ☑️
bow down
KMD IS A TRUE RAP GOD
kool moe dee vs clips
I don't think he understands the new age battlers.. Bc they DO battle using mc skills( punchlines, metaphors etc..) while simultaneously talking trash to each other.. So its actually a lot more difficult to do than what he's talking about..
I think he was talking about diss records more but it could apply to both
Mike Black djwarzone1 He's saying the gun shit is unnecessary all together.
KontryBoy706 Unfortunately, us heads are dying off. More and more lame cats on the rise.
One of the first great emcees who elevated the art of emceeing and influenced people like Kane, Puba, Rakim and others don't understand battle rappers nowadays and you do?
Yeah ok.....
Disrespectful Caz. Mikey D is a real as an MC as Mel or yourself. Rhyming off the top of your head is MC'ing it can't get any more real than that. Mikey D is a Queens battle rap legend and he schooled Bronx cat on that day in 88' and The great Melle Mel knows he took an L and can never say he never lost a battle. Say his name Playboy Mikey D aka Mikey Destruction
Kmd beat LL kmd was a legend
The one that won the battle, was the one that was left standing... LL. When he dropped Mama Said Knock You Out, it was a wrap. LL has his own style, Moe Dee has his own style. LL wouldn’t sound right saying Moe Dee’s rhymes and vice versa. LL didn’t have to make whole songs to diss you, he did it with a line or two. Just like when he dissed EPMD and Slick Rick. It took Moe Dee way more bars to get his point across than it did LL. Prime example, Jay-Z ... “I’m about a dollar, what the fu** is 50 cent”. Bottom line, every rapper ain’t gotta fire a bunch of body shots to get you, some just go straight for the head out the chamber with one or two lines.
Any chance of a Kool Moe Dee interview Vlad? Need more interviews from legends, fuck these reality tv nerds and pornstars. :))))
jthmastermind check out. the 360 mix show interview with moe dee. vlad would never give an interview that good. check it out.. its real good.
Now I know why Eminem is so respected. He’s lethal and lyrical. He can rhyme like no one else and when goes in... he go in deep!
You really need to praise and to God not a human being. Stans are really something else
I know my Em comment is off topic. But when they start comparing them to now. I think Em would have held his own waaaaaaay back in the day.
Battle rap sucks these days. They aren't rapping, it's just spoken word. And spoken word is GARBAGE.
Jai Courvoisier Uh...that's how rap started, spoken word. Respect the forefathers man, come on.
My problem is there is no freestyle and the battlers know each others raps beforehand... An old school battler would DESTROY a modern one.
chdreturns
It got personal back in the day too.
+Jai Courvoisier It's like they lost the art of breakin.' It's all turned into violence instead. They don't break anymore, they threaten.
moe dee was sick but busy bee wasn't a battle rapper
Jesus Serrano u don't even know who he is
Jesus Serrano He was just not in the sense of like how it is today.Kool Moe Dee set the whole Battle thing off of the way it's done today.
WHY DOES HE LOOK LIKE A SIMPSONS CHARACTAR
man please moe Dee was dope but ll served him by the time ll came along moe Dee style of rap was out the window
Marquise Watts Agreed Bro
Marquise Watts d shitted on ll lyrically.
Moe Dee killed LL. Sorry bro
LL was biting Moe Dee's style. So? how was it "out of style"?
"Hold on, Busy Bee, don't mean to be bold. But take that bah diddy bah bulls..t on hold."
Like Kool Moe Dee Busy Bee, that's one you should know- Beastie Boys "Root Down"