My FAVOURITE REVERB now has a PLUGIN? || Tegeler Raummaschine
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- Опубликовано: 5 авг 2024
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INDEX:
00:00 Intro
00:47 What I like about Raumzeit
01:42 Why didn't Tegeler make this earlier???
02:24 Blue Light RANT
02:53 Testing
04:02 What do all those numbers mean?
05:19 The useless display!
06:03 Comparing
09:58 Why Hardware?
11:20 Why the Plugin?
12:04 Disclosure & Support! 
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Important note for all plugin developers: He absolutely loves complicated plugins with a loot of knobs, screws, blue blinking lights and hates auto gain, oversampling and Sandstorm by Darude.
A variation of this could be his epitaph 😅
Who'd of thought it. Another below average plugin. It's all so boring
Gotta say I like the initial settings a lot. That's a real smooth lush sound. And 3 knobs is highly appealing. Though I own some other decent verbs, will definitely be interested in purchasing when it goes on sale.
Blue Light rant ftw 😂
Blue light is my favorite gear light color 🥺
But no rants on the screws & knob-shadows🤔
Bizarre.
Didn’t want to make the video too long 😅
blue lights do suck. red or amber please.
Ordered this over a month ago not knowing what it would be. I own a Creme, and thought for 59€ it would be cool to own Tegeler´s first plugin. It was released on June 1st. I downloaded it, and I really like it. It´s totally different than any of the Reverbs I own.
I love that Brandy riff she starts the song off with
The hardware unit’s controller is pretty awesome, along with the motorized knobs thats as easy as it gets for ease of use / recall and it should be the standard for all new hardware units
wow, that sounds really really good
Never owned the hardware unit - but in practice this reverb either sounds amazing with a quick tweaking, or I just run back to Fabfilter's arms for help. So far I love it.
I'm loving the Rant sections! 🎉
I love the sound coming from the hardware.. The vst? not so much!
The plug sounds very muddy to me compared to the hardware. I'm not keen and was really hoping that I would be. I love straight forward plugins that just do the job. Oh well.
I like how you are casually using your Lewitt 1040 as your RUclips mic. Respect. I'm looking at the pure tube for my youtube.
This was filmed with the pure tube
@@Whiteseastudio Sweet!
FWIW, recently tried this on an EVH-esque guitar track pitted against Valhalla DSP, Slate Classic, & Super Plate; this allowed the guitar tone to remain better intact. Like it. Thanks for the review. Cheers
Good episode and not distracting nail polish
@@amremorse I am autistic things like that distract me from content. I didn’t wanted to offend. Sorry if I did.
I think every plugin should have a meter that represents gain even if it's just the numbers I want to match in numbers first and then with my ears I mix my eyes first.
Thanks for making some comparisons either is not easy.
About the tracks, do you know which mic was used for this very great sound.
Will have to compare it to the Liquidsonics, Tai Chi
The plugin sounds really good, but the hardware unit sounds fantastic.
That's what I'm saying but the hardware just idk got a fuller thicker sound
@@sammyall9091 tube sat + converter phaseshift
agreed
@@TheJohnsofDoes You seem more informed than i am, so not going to argue. You are probably correct
holy fuck this sounds phenomenal
Now we all go back to our cave 😉 and wait for you to review the Bricasti reverb.
The imaging seemed more smeared and wide on the software, but the unit seemed more 3D with depth.
Does your Raumzeit also inverts the phase at the input? Mine does even in bypass. Can you check?
I've been wondering for weeks what fingerspitzenkashul meant ... I finally found a video where you explain it! xD
Tube output stage on the hardware. Of course it's not going to sound the same. It sounds like the same algorithm to me though.
Happy that i passed on this. Got the Suepr Plate from Soundtoys instead, no regrets
I love the blue lights on my Avalon vt737sp BabyFace black face plate edition. Lol
I feel like I would need to add a high pass filter to the plugin to get it nearer the hardware sound. It's SO much bassier for some reason. And the fact the control values are so different is weird. Sounds quite good still, but not at all the same.
I agree about the filter. It's what I'm doing but it would be nice to have it included.
@@TheJohnsofDoes ok so that undesirable effect makes it sound muddy or bassy or whatever. The point is that I think we agree. The modelling is not accurate.
the software sounds NOT that rich in the release and fades shorter anyhow.. and sounds not that deep in the stereo width like RZM.. but it's pretty close anyway.. like to see the Novatron LtELJpLsFHk under your hands.. and what your thinkin' about..
Ive been following for atleast s year. And it took me months to pick up on the samdstorm gag, but whats its origins?
i just love the song
Been wanting that hardware unit for a while. It’s considerably brighter, and you can hear the tubes imo. Hardware does something nice to the stereo field too. That said, some Saturn and proper eq on the plug-in, and you might be able to achieve a close approximation to the hardware. As is common, the hardware just works. You’ll just need to fiddle with the software to make it work the same way. Looking forward to demoing it.
PS: got the demo. It’s awesome! Unlike any verb that I have. Very unique algo that blends so seamlessly into a mix if you want it to, or can be lush and full of character. Love it!
agree, there seems to be more "air" and clarity from the hardware.
Great review. Looks tempting. But if you had to have one more VST reverb in your arsenal, which would be the choice?: Sound Toys Super Plate or this? (I know... I know they are different). But regarding value? Soundtoys is $79 and this is $99. Soundtoys is also offering 5 plates. They both seem of excellent quality.
Arturia lx-24 is worth a demo 👍
@@statueoftheabyss6886 Thanks. I didn't know Arturia made a "Lexicon." I've been looking for that classic as well. Hmmm... decisions.
Even the RUclips compression can't make the difference disappear (as it's usually the case for me when you compare settings or differences). The plugin sounds a lot darker compared to the hardware. In general, this is just a difference in sound, but not in quality.
keep in mind the hardware unit has in and output transformers + tubes inside so there might be some coloration happening which is not included in the vst
I'm guessing the input and output #'s are Unity Gain, where 1 is unity.
the stereo field is much wider on the hardware.
Dank voor de video je doet het super Gr.Ness
Not to be that guy BUT could there be aliasing going on within the plugin? Perhaps why it doesn't sound as crisp and clear as the tube unit... Sorry not sorry.
would like you to review the Blue Sky vst 😁
Wyste your level matching by ear is appalling in this video haha. definitely an off day. but you're right they're not the same. The hardware definitely appears to have a high pass filter on the way in compared to the plugin. close though.
That sounds how a reverb for pop/rock should sound, just tickeling the tunes, keeps the clean sound (if you haven't inserted it as a send?) 😊.
I A/B:ed it against the reverbs from Arturia and my other favourite reverb, Tsar-1 from Softube and it's on pair with Tsar-1 but have a different flavour and in my ears deeper and more natural sounding than all Arturia reverbs from V-collection.
Speaking of a video "PlugIns I use" I would be very interested in a video "outboard gear I use". 🙂
the raumzeitmaschine has input and output transformers + tubes in the audio path :)
But sounds brighter
Add the SPL tube sim or any other subtle (analog) distortion to the reverb path and its indistinguishable from the hardware.
Interesting, in theory it might be.. did you test this yourselves?
I like that song is it available?
The plugin seems warmer than the hardware 😳
Sounds GREAT! I have a dillema of using Lustrous Plates/Seventh Heaven/ValhallaVintageVerb/Lexicon/VertsuiteClassics/Fabfilter-R .. reaally strong dillema. Or buy this?
Lustrous plates is really good
This plugin has a different sound.. which sound do you like?
Regarding the lack of info about parameters, Tegeler's email to me said: "(the development team) wanted people to use their ears instinctively, and therefore they made some of the parameters vague on purpose (such as the Input and Output knobs, for example)". Hmm ... imho. I must admit to liking the sound a lot though, lol.
Tell me, what's the song?
is it the DAAD conversion changing the sound?
the plugin sounds like a real room, the hardware sounds like a hardware. one thing that I always hear with this kind of comparison is that the slight imperfections in the two channels that exist on hardware make the ambience kind of "fall down" verticly. I am sorry for the nostalgists, but hardware reverb never sounds real to me. But of course the goal is not always to create a real sounding ambience. especially this trakc has that 90ies RnB vibe to it, which the hardware hall reproduced. I still prefer the plugin one. Why bring a new song sonicly back 30 years? lol
What can this plugin do what Logic Stock Reverb's can't ?
I dunno, it sounds like the imaging goes a bit deeper on the hardware. Same spirit in the plugin, though.
The hardware unit sounds much more focused. Like really pleasant to listen to. The plugin sounds nowhere near the original unit. Maybe it has a sonic similarity but the focused sound is probably what differentiates the hardware from software.
The hardware has more vibe. It breaks up in way that adds depth while the plugin is more muddy and not as musical. One probably could get closer to the gear by adding some saturation
How about a tutorial on how you made that sound with your mouth when you spoke about the blue light??🤣🤣
when you said it sounded different i thought it sounded the same and when you thought it sounded similar i thought it sounded different LOL
Me too, lol!
Idk what it is the hardwarehas just more color and sounds fuller
A really cool feature could be a " Auto-Fingerspitzengefühl"....like Auto Gain....🤔
the software sounds much more forward in the mix, i much prefer the hardware.
also they advertise the hardware as an analog + digital reverb 🤔
no screws , you're going to have to buy your own screws
I think all UI is best when it's inspired by Interpretive Dance and Kandinsky art.
I do like Blue Light--by David Gilmour!
Hardware makes the man, thats what i see you mean.
Its pretty close. Save tons of cash and buy the VST.
Try the Seven Heaven of Liquid Sonics
I tape up blue lights
They both sound good but the hardware has the harmonics while the Plugin is so linear , and hardware really shows in the depth and you already have session recall what else could you possibly want :/ and i genuinely believe you get what you pay for in this situation, if you need a reverb that sounds like that on a low budget go for the vst, but it won’t start making your mixes have that reverb “depth” (which is totally fine) until you step into the analog world! Even my Mac M1 Pro 32 GB ram can’t run the big sky reverb, sounds dope, but just isn’t enough computing power to really take in all of these programs yet, the algorithms are pretty extreme, it’s like going from a basic Amp modeler to one that has extreme IR, they sound similar but the extremely good algorithms are what bring depth into these situations, and I’d love to see a reverb in the VST realm that doesn’t rely so heavily on IR !
I'm in the USA, I went to their site, English is chosen then half the site is not in English. I don't recognize the payment methods either. This company doesn't have their shit together it seems. Not comfortable buying it.
Hardware is so much silkier ...😯
+1 for blue lights, it's always terrible)
Blue lights are quite a curse!
anyone succeded to download a demo?????? seems like catch 22 :-(
There is a demo link in the description…
@@Whiteseastudio yeah i know but there's no download of the demo on the site nor in the mail they send when you ordered. So anyone managed to download please shoot out...
Wait… what!?!?
@@umanuman2807 i tried.. no luck here
You'd hate Chamsys consoles 😅
Hm ... you can "buy" the demo for 0 Euros, but then nothing happens. The plugin says, that it wants a lisence code. Maybe that's manually being sent? Lets see. After listening to your comparison, I still want the hardware anyway ;-)
same here .. bought the demo and then nothing happens (except a receipt) .. i want my $0.00 back !! :)
Add a tube preamp plugin after the reverb
If you can find a good one that can oversample 16x. With ultra sonic filtering. Then maybe... But can't render it. So it's going to affect your CPU. Maybe...
Why? That would make it sound warmer and increase the sonic difference
@@Newerasamearea Hardware has tubes on the output
@@TransistorLSD listen to the difference. tube won't solve that unless targeting hf only.
@@Newerasamearea HF thing is probably a converters phaseshift.
The low end sounds richer with the hardware and more defined, but I have bought the plug in and all my other reverbs have become obsolete.
amazing reverb for female vocals
I'm usually not this guy, but the hardware unit sounds a little more "forgiving." I felt as if the reverb level was different in the comparison.
Not overly impressed, it's a bit buggy. Crashes Cubase when used as an insert, but ok as a send, and the presets didn't install.
It doesn't have the clarity and definition of the hardware unit. Yet, given that it is 26 times cheaper, this is expected I guess.
It could help to saturate the wet signal. I often do that with other reverb plugins.
good to see u without nailpaint
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the plugin washed away the sound... yes the hardware too... but the end of the words is even more... But maybe in a mix less able to hear and 26X more expensive the hardware... My budget said choose the plugin 😄 But both of them sounds great!
Ugly mid frequencies and low end (muddy) with the plugin while the hardware version is very clean and smooth.
It crashes my Pro Tools every time.
the hardware somehow sounds more "real" to me
"i hate blue light" *has blue light on roof of the room*
Is purple/violet 😉
@@Whiteseastudio my mistake maybe im color blind 😶 keep making vids tho plz i like them
i can clearly hear the difference on my mac speakers
and so i'm buying hardware ofc this is like dreams come true so, never stop believing~
In my honest opinion, I think the plugin sounds better
Wait, anyone noticed the Fairchild?🧐🤨
I love your videos. But that mic sounds so damn bright. Like too bright
hardware sounds better fuller richer
Wytze, you should try the 7th Heaven reverb by LiquidSonics. It’s a great reverb with not ‘too’ many knobs 😊
I think cinematic rooms from LiquidSonics is even better
Cinematic rooms is the best!
Tested the plugin and super unimpressed by the sound. Not for me.
In the real world would you use this on the mix buss? Reverb on the master buss seems like a big no no for me
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I think the majority of tone difference we’re hearing is in the D to A and then A to D conversion. If you listen to the dry signal of the song, it sounds drastically difference in the comparisons because of running out of the computer and then back in.
Totally. That’s why I only use hardware fx with mix knobs on front panel. Trying to blend a dry DAW signal with a 100% wet hardware reverb always sounds so weird to me.
I don’t think that the ADDA colors that much 🤔
@@Whiteseastudio there definitely was some color difference between the plug-in and the hardware, but I could also hear a difference in 3D “air” if you will when the reverb was really low and it was mostly dry signal
depth coming from hardware is way better
🙂👍
Why aren’t you using any Liquidsonics reverbs?! I would like to see this thing against Tai chi….