I Didn't Want to Buy This Plugin... But It Changed Everything! (The God Particle)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 сен 2024

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  • @eddiexx
    @eddiexx 18 дней назад +41

    i think the reason why we find these plugins so great is because at the end of a mix we become too afraid and therefor dont dear color our mixes, so we end up with good solid grounds but no excitement, and then in comes a frequency curve that actually dears to put a noticeable mark on the mix, that sudden action our ears and mind appreciate very much, a noticible contrast after hours of nitpicking to nowhere.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  18 дней назад +5

      Seems like a good theory! However, im finding that it’s the process of mixing into this plugin that works best for me (rather than just slapping it on at the end).

    • @uforeaofficial
      @uforeaofficial 17 дней назад +3

      wow, couldn't have said it better myself.

  • @songwriterxandtheskeletonband
    @songwriterxandtheskeletonband 16 дней назад +11

    I've been using the God Particle on the main bus for over a year now and I love it.

  • @KultureUK
    @KultureUK 11 дней назад +9

    My mixes got sooo much better when i stopped using this plugin. Everything with GP on had the same mushed together midrange, ruined my low end and i couldnt keep anything truly mono if i wanted. It really limited the scope to mix within.

  • @MarciaFunebre
    @MarciaFunebre 19 дней назад +100

    It's a cool plugin, but buyers beware! This thing requires you to be constantly online for constant license check - an extreme example of privacy invasion and distrust against honest customers.

    • @ignacedhont9816
      @ignacedhont9816 19 дней назад +14

      That sucks

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  18 дней назад +16

      I actually wasn’t aware of that, thanks for sharing!

    • @VinceJackson1
      @VinceJackson1 18 дней назад

      The first time I didn't know why my master bus didn't have sound 😡 but it will never not be on my mix bus😂

    • @skyko
      @skyko 18 дней назад +1

      Total deal breaker. I won't even demo it now. Thanks for the heads up! what an annoying, stupid thing for them to do!!!!! (iLok is bad enough...)

    • @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn
      @Dave-Rough-Diamond-Dunn 18 дней назад +4

      So not like with an iLok/Waves plugins where it goes online to verify when you open a session (Edit in Waveform) where it's used, but constantly? If you turn off WiFi on the computer at any point while mixing it stops working, even if it verified the licence 5 minutes ago and you are still using the same instance of the plugin? Just wanting to clarify the situation as once the plugins have been verified when I open an Edit, I'll usually turn off WiFi while I mix, and I have God Particle in a Cart ready to buy. Cheers.

  • @SonnyGreenwichJr
    @SonnyGreenwichJr 18 дней назад +9

    I got it on sale, have used it on everything ever since... It just works! BOOM! Thanks! I've smashed all the smashers!
    Salutations from astonishingly grey & chilly Ireland! ☘☮🤘🏽🤠👍🏽☮☘

  • @jonosmitho4212
    @jonosmitho4212 17 дней назад +1

    Been using it for about a year. It goes on every mix I do now. Great plug-in!

  • @Luke-ot6mk
    @Luke-ot6mk 18 дней назад +16

    I emulate the God Particle in my Mix Bus with a Mid side Pan, a Multiband comp, a Baxandall Eq, probably some saturation on high frequencies and a little bit bit reverb, jus enough for brings ambience. I use Goodhertz; FabFilter Multi Band or Audiority Polycomp ; Dangerous Bax EQ or Uad Pultec; SpL Harmonics,or Harmonics Softube; Seventh Heaven - Studio A preset. That is my God Particle emulate Mix bus... The chain order can be different. Cheers!

    • @JuiceNZ
      @JuiceNZ 17 дней назад +2

      I like that , very similar to how I think about the mix bus 🔥

    • @Dane_Riazer
      @Dane_Riazer 17 дней назад +3

      Goodhertz is the 'low key' analogue maker....you can even add noise into the track with rc-20 before the goodhertz and it blends so well!

    • @yodaflame985
      @yodaflame985 11 дней назад +1

      Thought I was the only one, that bax just cuts different

  • @busywl69
    @busywl69 18 дней назад +18

    Will be worth it at $29 USD.

    • @MilliardBeats
      @MilliardBeats 18 дней назад +1

      Where did you find that price??

    • @malaclypse1409
      @malaclypse1409 17 дней назад +2

      @@MilliardBeats They didn't

    • @busywl69
      @busywl69 17 дней назад +2

      @@MilliardBeats Not yet. But one day it will be. PLugin market competition is brutal.

    • @davelordy
      @davelordy 17 дней назад +1

      Agreed, otherwise you can get 99% of the way there with excitation, transient emphasis and a little subtle EQ.

    • @cachelesssociety5187
      @cachelesssociety5187 4 дня назад

      Maybe for a collector like me - I accumulate stuff just to re-try later.

  • @laddieervin
    @laddieervin 18 дней назад +19

    I demoed The God Particle for about a week when it came out. For me, it made everything worse, in general. I still have no idea why so many RUclips music makers are in love with this plugin.

    • @fablefactor
      @fablefactor 17 дней назад +4

      Same here. It might be useful for people who don't already have a pro sounding mix/mastering routine but for me, it took my mixes back a few steps.

    • @brandonbollingermusic
      @brandonbollingermusic 17 дней назад

      agreed. It's 110 percent snake oil.

    • @Dane_Riazer
      @Dane_Riazer 17 дней назад +2

      I would serious love to do a Zoom/SessionWire with you or @fablefactor to hear what you guys mixes sound like.

    • @CaptainProton1
      @CaptainProton1 15 дней назад +1

      Really try mixing into it and chilling with the built in limiter.

    • @Rolanoid
      @Rolanoid 14 дней назад +1

      FYI there is a known band limiting issue with the plugin when working at sample rates above 44.1k

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums 18 дней назад +6

    sounding pretty muddy with or without. The drums feel big but lacking transients... loudness for loudness sake maybe?

  • @RPMusicStudios
    @RPMusicStudios 16 дней назад +1

    Great demonstration! It definitely brings some excitement and dimension to the mix.

  • @k8923
    @k8923 14 дней назад +1

    When a friend sends me his stuff and asks for input, I almost always use the Stereoizer in Ozone. The middle can be a mush of sound, and spreading out a little lets you hear the individual instruments more clearly which gives it more presence, and makes it seem more dynamic. That sounds a lot like what the God is doing.

  • @jamesfreynolds01
    @jamesfreynolds01 11 дней назад +2

    TBH it just sounds like a bit of EQing has gone on especailly in the top air bands. I would argue you could get better results using the Pulsar 8200 eq and way more control. The oxford limiter with the exiter function will also acheive this.

  • @psycholarge
    @psycholarge 19 дней назад +2

    It's certainly a great plugin that I find myself not being able to live without. Luckily I got mine on sale.

  • @noizros
    @noizros 15 дней назад +3

    I use it on my master and I love it

  • @kelvynification
    @kelvynification 18 дней назад +1

    Whatever gets you home… feet, horse, bicycle, motor bike, car, airplane… or God Particle! Ultimately it’s your ears and what’s between them that counts 😎 Mixing into the GP gave you a different perspective which inspired you to make other choices. Whatever! If it inspires then cool😎The GP mix does sound better though👏

  • @monkmusic5994
    @monkmusic5994 18 дней назад +3

    I think, it sounds hyped in the highs and width. Do we want to have songs that all sound Joshuaish? Art does not work like this only mass production.

  • @iokloo.official
    @iokloo.official 12 дней назад +1

    good video man thanks for the time and effort!

  • @ProfessorSaibertin
    @ProfessorSaibertin 15 дней назад +1

    Thx for the video Malcom.

  • @JaKunaMusic
    @JaKunaMusic 18 дней назад +2

    Its a solid plugin tbh! My only concern is that I make EDM music, and no matter what I do, I just couldn't get to make it sound nice. The multiband compressor squashes my high end and my low end loses punch and definition, prob because in EDM we tend to "exceed" the pop/hip hop rules in terms of low end and high end.

  • @sledge1swede654
    @sledge1swede654 17 дней назад +3

    There are to many choises and this whone is a clear pass dont think you need this at all.Get a UAD card and some wavs and you are pretty covered for the masterbus I recommend check out slate digital or a hardware old Neve.

  • @ElectricEddieDaus
    @ElectricEddieDaus День назад

    You should let the music play a bit more in both Bypass and Non-Bypass to really hear the difference... It's a little quick, I would like to hear more of the before and after. Seems OK. similar to Ozone etc. Cool.....

  • @adamslawson
    @adamslawson 17 дней назад +4

    sounds like maybe your monitors are too bright, as your mix w/o the GP plug-in is more dull, lacking high-end that the God Particle gave more of.

    • @tdtrecordsmusic
      @tdtrecordsmusic 17 дней назад +1

      definitely agree. it could also be his ears. it takes a good amount of 'real' practice to earn good ears. Could be fatigue as well... I think a lot of mixers get fatigued literally while hyper-focussing on particular spots. Then when coming out of the hyper-focussed section the overall 'sound goal' is lost. I could also say 'fatigued out' instead of lost.

  • @flightlessbird2281
    @flightlessbird2281 День назад

    I'll invent a plug in called Gain. Same thing as this one only it's been featured on a mixer since mixers were first invented.

  • @Litzwire17
    @Litzwire17 18 часов назад

    Malcolm did you record the guitars or are you just doing the mix? If you did recording could you explain or do a video on your guitar recording gear and process?

  • @OYNG
    @OYNG День назад

    Hey Malcom, great video! Just wondering, when you say mixing into the plugin do u mean leaving it on the master bus the whole time and doing your other processing before it, therefore hitting it last?

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  День назад +1

      Correct! Since it’s always on the mix bus chain, I’m always hearing the audio running through The God Particle and that will influence the decisions I make up stream on the individual tracks and instrument groups/busses. Hope that makes sense!

  • @DICARLOPRODUCTIONS
    @DICARLOPRODUCTIONS 17 дней назад +1

    I´ve used this plugin on a few mixes, and it´s pretty good. But, on some songs it was causing a LOT of noise, so I couldn´t use it. Took it off, and everything was fine. I don´t know if others have had this problem, but I haven´t used it in a while. I suppose I should contact support, and ask them what the problem could be.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  17 дней назад

      That’s interesting! Haven’t encountered that (yet). I’m assuming you’ve ruled out that it’s just boosting noise from earlier in the chain somewhere? Good to watch for either way, thanks!

  • @dirtbikeprophet7195
    @dirtbikeprophet7195 16 дней назад +1

    Your original mix was very good. I dont know many people that could mix that well. But the mix sounded a little flat. And the pluggin was wider and a tad brighter. But I think you would have to have a solid mix like you started with. Cheers

  • @blairlocke1858
    @blairlocke1858 19 дней назад +1

    Love your content. Thanks for this.

  • @dougwayne
    @dougwayne 2 дня назад

    I personally like to mix without a net... Nothing on the master bus! If I want Mojo I do it in mastering.

  • @user-bo8ex4ji7n
    @user-bo8ex4ji7n 16 дней назад +2

    Would love to hear what you mean by "mixed into" the plugin. You just slap it on the master channel on 100% wet and pretend it's not there while you're mixing? Or are you using its meters for reference (with limiter off)? This seems like a good idea but I am not sure where to start (other than of course just slapping it on the master and pretending it's not there :))

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  16 дней назад +3

      Great question! Mixing into it means that it's placed on the mix bus early on in the process, which influences the decisions you're making while mixing, as you're reacting to what you're hearing (which is all hitting the plugins/hardware you've placed in the chain). This is very different than doing a mix and then slapping something on at the end, and will definitely yield different results.
      As for how the plugin or hardware on your mix bus is set, is up to taste. I usually do a rough balance of the mix very quickly (volume faders, light eq or compression if something obviously needs it to sound listenable) and then put a mix bus compressor on and set it based on what sounds good at that point. It might change down the road, but usually that starting point ends up somewhat accurate. But in the case of The God Particle, I went with just its default settings and mixed into it as it was.
      I like to mix into a chain (be that The God Particle or other plugins/hardware) but I also tend to put some extra plugins on the mix bus near the end of a mix to take it across the finish line - so both methods have merit if you ask me!

    • @user-bo8ex4ji7n
      @user-bo8ex4ji7n 13 дней назад

      @@malcomowenflood Thanks for the detailed response - makes a lot more sense now!!

  • @N1Studioproduction
    @N1Studioproduction 4 дня назад

    Nice video overall! For me it works better with lower procentage of the magic nab most of the time. It just brings too much side information. That's the only thing I wish I had more control in future versions of that amazing plugin.

  • @joshuagardner894
    @joshuagardner894 18 дней назад +2

    Some constructive criticism, bring up the highs on her voice, it is muddled in the mix. Granted, Im listening on studio monitors tuned to a flat frequency response in a treated room, so my suggestion might be too much, but the instrumentation is overshadowing the artist imo.

    • @NoahHornberger
      @NoahHornberger 17 дней назад +2

      agree, bass is too heavy, guitars have too much bass, voice is buried, no shine, snare and kick is not snappy, there are still tons of details to pull out.

  • @vektacular
    @vektacular 6 дней назад

    It sure did…I love it!

  • @rahulborkar1942
    @rahulborkar1942 17 дней назад +1

    First in my mix bus but I don’t use the limiter as well. I still use some other plugins and analog after it as well when needed.

  • @songwriterxandtheskeletonband
    @songwriterxandtheskeletonband 16 дней назад +1

    yeah I had a boat load of waves plugins and I've turned all off, just use the God Particle now

  • @ghfjfghjasdfasdf
    @ghfjfghjasdfasdf 18 дней назад +4

    Constant online drm is for the birds.

  • @PaulOuzounov
    @PaulOuzounov 2 дня назад

    It's the best plugin ever.

  • @plundaphonikz2570
    @plundaphonikz2570 4 дня назад

    Reminds me alot of Revive channel on the steve slate mix plugin thing

  • @WilliamAshleyOnline
    @WilliamAshleyOnline 18 дней назад +1

    I don't know not sure the specific point but I don't know somewhere between 2k and 5k on the female vocal up a little might give a little more of the energy maybe I am just def though. Vocal sounded a little level so I was getting more of like a banal feel from it rather than energetic. Its definately supressed rather than brightened. imho. talking about the first song.

  • @SchibbiSchibbi
    @SchibbiSchibbi 4 дня назад

    always mixing into it

  • @huckwalton2307
    @huckwalton2307 2 дня назад

    Reminds me of mixing into Gullfoss.

  • @tdtrecordsmusic
    @tdtrecordsmusic 17 дней назад +4

    i dunno bro. I think if your learning this kind of crutch is a future killer. If you can't get that sound WITHOUT a magic knob, then U just bought yourself a dependency.
    biggest stuff I heard that separated the A to B , was simply in turning down the box + saturation/distortion on the freq that needed more boost + overall widening. the box is a slang term for that lower 1k region. typical recording techniques leave a session sounding dull & need a ton of transient carving + saturation boosting on other freq to give that hq shine. Good luck on your projects :) (just passing thru)

  • @PatrickStefan
    @PatrickStefan День назад

    I like to dial in the amount below 50% and turn the limiter off

  • @joesalyers
    @joesalyers 17 дней назад

    WOW Has anyone ever told you that you could be Brett Okamoto from ESPN's doppelganger? HOLY CRAP its wild!! Brett covers MMA and this is wild I just watched Okamoto do an interview and then your video and its uncanny! WOW.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  16 дней назад +1

      First time I’ve heard that, but just looked him up and I see where you’re coming from 🤣
      Thanks for watching!

  • @AH20XX
    @AH20XX 17 дней назад +1

    Hasn't left my mixbus since i got it

  • @jjose100ify
    @jjose100ify 7 дней назад

    I love using it for specific things. I ALWAYS turn off the limiter though. Not a fan of it

  • @CraigScottFrost
    @CraigScottFrost 18 дней назад

    Always remember we trick ourselves especially if we spend money on a cool plugin. I would do this test blind. I can’t remember the name of the plugin that you place on 2 or more tracks and it rolls the dice and you can A/B without knowing which is which. I want to say the name is HOFA or something like that. Bounce out a small section on and off.

  • @pushfreely5917
    @pushfreely5917 18 дней назад +1

    Loved it until I got the Master Plan plugin….. Both 🔥 tho!

  • @BarkingForBroccoliBG
    @BarkingForBroccoliBG 16 дней назад +1

    I like this song it's like Paramore mixed with Avril Lavigne

  • @malcomowenflood
    @malcomowenflood  19 дней назад +1

    Hey all! First off, thanks for watching - I hope you enjoyed it! Second: thumbs up if you’ve demo’d a product and then had to buy it as a result 😅

  • @siriusfun
    @siriusfun 17 дней назад +1

    It reminds me of the sonnox inflator.

  • @JuiceNZ
    @JuiceNZ 17 дней назад +1

    When I opened this video I thought it was gonna be BS , exoecting the usual snake oil sh#t , but this is actually good... I thought your first mix was fine ...until you played the other one and it really came to life ..made the first mix sound dull

  • @DedVerse
    @DedVerse 16 дней назад

    *sigh* can you compare this and infected mushroom pusher (IMP) to see which one is better ive been gate keeping this plugin for years but now im looking for an AI plugin.

  • @akeyunturned3580
    @akeyunturned3580 13 дней назад

    I could never get any reading on the high end meter. I can’t understand what those meters are for or if I should be trying to hit them a bit. All explanations I’ve heard on them make no sense. Kinda stopped using this plugin because of it tbh.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  13 дней назад +1

      I agree that the top end meter is pretty ridiculous - I can boost WAY too much into it and still not have any action there - so I just ignore it now (and use my Izotope Tonal Curve for that job instead).

  • @ZikiMusicWHV
    @ZikiMusicWHV 4 дня назад

    If you export it, do you leave the plugin ON or OF?

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  4 дня назад

      If I’m using the plugin in the mix, I leave it on

  • @Musictron
    @Musictron 19 дней назад

    Nice! So do you primarily mix on the HD650 and do you use any headphone corrective eq?

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  19 дней назад +2

      I actually mixed these songs on my Neumann KH310 monitors but when I make videos I use my Sennheiser HD650’s to avoid bleed into the dialogue of the video. But I do check on my headphones during the mixing process too! And yes, I use Sonarworks Reference 4 to correct my HD650s and the Neumann monitors as well! (Got another video on how I route that using AudioHijack if you’re interested)!

  • @hjortur
    @hjortur 18 дней назад +13

    You are selling a plugin. Good. All right. I don't buy it. I am a sound engineer and producer since 1974. Yes, a long time. I have been through the analog age and the digital age, and of course the transition. What you are doing here can be done using the stuck plugins in most daw's. I can hear what you do. I use my ears. Thank your for the video.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  18 дней назад +7

      Not selling, just sharing my experience using it. No sponsership or contact with the company about making this video whatsoever!

    • @hjortur
      @hjortur 18 дней назад

      ​@@malcomowenflood Point taken.

    • @Dex01649
      @Dex01649 18 дней назад +2

      @@malcomowenfloodYou had the creator of this plug-in on your podcast tho

    • @tokyogamer5825
      @tokyogamer5825 18 дней назад

      Lmao what a dumb comment.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  18 дней назад +3

      Yep, Jaycen was on The Self-Recording Band Podcast when we were at Studioszene in Hamburg (great dude!) - but that doesn’t mean we struck a deal of any kind. He never sent us the plugin, asked us to talk about the plugin or anything. That chat just put it on my radar and I decided to check it out months later myself via the website!

  • @modiggidybeats
    @modiggidybeats 17 дней назад

    The plug-in was in bypass the first half of the video or am I tripping???

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  17 дней назад

      The first examples were printed mixes - one with the plug-in on it, and the other without (I explain how they were both mixed off the top of the video if you’re interested. It’s relevant id say! Short version is that I mixed the song through The God Particle for example one, whereas we experiment with just placing The God Particle plugin right on a finished mix for the second example. So the bypassed plugin you are looking at is for the 2nd example song and isn’t relevant to the first example - hope that makes sense!

  • @wenglish1968
    @wenglish1968 10 дней назад

    Vocal sounds more lispy with it on tbh

  • @psyzmech9044
    @psyzmech9044 18 дней назад +1

    How does it compare to Ozone?

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore 12 дней назад

    I think you're in the honeymoon period. God Particle is a great plugin but it does "choke" the sound a bit. I've used it a lot, in mastering contexts too. It's easy to overcompress with it. I'm not as convinced that the GP version sounded better than your original mix. It def sounded cleaner and more "produced", more polished. But the original had more of a raw punk feel, which maybe matched the song better, depending on your preferences. If the GP mix sounds better, it's close. It's not a landslide win. It's not better it's just different.

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  12 дней назад +1

      I like your perspective on this, thanks for the comment!

  • @hostrow
    @hostrow 9 дней назад

    The mix still sounds flat. it’s brighter but still flat. I guess that it’s what everyone wants these days. Demo it with something that has dynamics.

  • @floydb9100
    @floydb9100 16 дней назад

    why did you mix into it rather than slapping it on the master?

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  16 дней назад

      Mixing into my mix bus chain is my usual/preferred mixing method, and Jaycen Joshua also recommended this method when talking about The God Particle Plugin - so I figured I’d give it a shot! We had him on our podcast, The Self-Recording Band, but I also attended one of his masterclasses at Studioszene in Hamburg last year and he talked about why he mixes into the plugin as it informs his transient decisions along the way. I found that to be accurate when I did the same!

  • @oldschooljohnny
    @oldschooljohnny 18 дней назад

    Can you mix now?

  • @midnightsocean2689
    @midnightsocean2689 17 дней назад

    Sounds like an exciter plugin alright. For 3 times the price of others no less. Can't say I'm aching for such a "deal". :/

  • @pepper...
    @pepper... 18 дней назад +1

    It's no use! The results are sickening!
    Sonnox Oxford Elite, even after so many years the best!

    • @siriusfun
      @siriusfun 17 дней назад

      Indeed. I heard a similarity to the Inflator with the 2nd order harmonics in the upper mids and high end.

  • @lowcypher1538
    @lowcypher1538 14 часов назад

    Am I the only one who thinks it sounds much more washed out, overconsistent and undefined with the plugin turned on? I honestly don't like it a bit, but maybe it's just a matter of taste

  • @prodjkid9822
    @prodjkid9822 18 дней назад

    when will the video that will say I hate god partical lmao w vib cuaa

  • @dama3509
    @dama3509 16 дней назад

    In Wavelab a Nightmare...

  • @GetSongsDone
    @GetSongsDone 19 дней назад

    Off sounded better, but my ears are shot. Never trusted them anyway. All of my true peak limiters are 😢 from always being off.

  • @Reneromero08
    @Reneromero08 14 дней назад

    Sounds like multiband compression, exciter, and expander. Nothing special or new.

  • @RealHomeRecording
    @RealHomeRecording 18 дней назад +4

    Blasphemous plug-in!

  • @cckeysify
    @cckeysify 17 дней назад +1

    Lol

  • @unc1589
    @unc1589 17 дней назад

    The plugin game is getting desperate.
    The name alone targets itself to the intention of the end user as someone who is looking for a miracle.
    People who have respect for God will not use it. (That’s a lot of people.)
    But hey. We live in a free enterprise nation.
    Pedal on.

  • @bonzology322
    @bonzology322 19 дней назад

    every hear of the saying "cart before the horse"? Mixing into anything is a fools errand

    • @malcomowenflood
      @malcomowenflood  19 дней назад +11

      I’d have to disagree with you there, but you do you!

    • @fablefactor
      @fablefactor 17 дней назад

      You do you.