THE GOD PARTICLE?

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  • Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
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    INDEX:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:26 - The Website
    01:18 - The not gain matched demo...
    03:05 - Stay on the target!
    03:57 - Testing
    07:59 - Mastering? How?
    09:27 - Distortion
    10:31 - Conclusion
    13:31 - Disclosure
    13:42 - Support me!
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Комментарии • 562

  • @6oundStudio
    @6oundStudio 2 года назад +463

    is there a version for atheists?

    • @Kkidzz
      @Kkidzz 2 года назад +35

      There's a cutdown version for Agnostics.

    • @chrismann5217
      @chrismann5217 2 года назад +4

      😆

    • @Rhythmattica
      @Rhythmattica 2 года назад +18

      @@Kkidzz Ok...
      Doors open for a classic Joke..Though not relevant at all ,
      You hear about that bloke who was a Dyslexic Agnostic that badly suffered insomnia?
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      Stayed Awake all night , wondering if there really was a Dog.

    • @harp_attack
      @harp_attack 2 года назад +17

      No, because this product exists.

    • @Rhythmattica
      @Rhythmattica 2 года назад +2

      @@harp_attack GOLD!

  • @zsteinkamp
    @zsteinkamp 2 года назад +218

    It's like a delicious spice mix. A specific shortcut to a specific flavor. You probably don't see off-the-shelf spice mixes in a professional chef's kitchen, but you will find them in home kitchens.

    • @R3BBiT
      @R3BBiT 2 года назад +28

      Damn, well said man..

    • @APU658
      @APU658 2 года назад +11

      I couldn’t agree more. A Professional chef doesn’t need off-the-shelf spice mixes because he knows what he doing, he doesn’t need a quick fix, he is well trained and well learn. He can take a dead tasting meal and turn it into a delicious meal. People at home can’t do that because they are not patient enough to take their time and learn it well. Most people don’t have enough time. I prefer to learn how to do something to come up with my very own style than just using or eating what everyone is using or eating.

    • @Fox_is_Fox
      @Fox_is_Fox 2 года назад +17

      A chef uses anything that makes his dish a hit, including an off-the-shelf spice mix. And this particular spice mix was designed by an American "Paul Bocuse". Voilà, bon appétit ! 😂

    • @mytube.1
      @mytube.1 Год назад

      perfectly said

    • @hithere4289
      @hithere4289 11 месяцев назад +1

      umm, if jaycen joshua uses it, that means even the most professionals can use it

  • @AaronMcFadden
    @AaronMcFadden 2 года назад +16

    If you watched jaycen Mix with the masters. He explains everything he does on the master fader. This plugin is pretty much emulating everything he does on his master fader. The reason no high frequencies are being compressed is because it's emulating a multband compressor. He usually doesn't compress high frequencies. He usually compresses the Midrange and the bass only. So you will not see meters moving at all for high frequencies.

  • @ilikeflxwers
    @ilikeflxwers 2 года назад +3

    Oooohhhh i was waiting for this so bad! You were literally the first person i thought of when i saw that plugin ☺️

  • @J1SHU
    @J1SHU Год назад +2

    I love how you have some great rational POV on every plugins!

  • @anthomusic
    @anthomusic 2 года назад +14

    I tried it out the other day and I love it. The multiband & limiter sound is nice. The post-processing power this does on my mixes gives me that same vibe of a modern pop song today. The best way i can describe it is that it gives like a serban ghenea type of sound based on his recent work lol. Its quick, easy, and $80 isn't too bad. Awesome work Jaycen, and to the people over there at Cradle 👍

  • @OtherWayDJSchoolUA
    @OtherWayDJSchoolUA 2 года назад +7

    I like it. Already used it in a couple of tracks. The limiter is disabled of course. In small proportions makes the mix more transparent and balanced. 👍🏻

    • @kalidesu
      @kalidesu 2 года назад +1

      Sounds like what Gullfoss does, a spectral multi band compressor/expander.

    • @EliteOnTheBeat
      @EliteOnTheBeat 2 года назад

      @@kalidesu NOT even close. YOU clearly don't know what you're talking about. lol. 🤦‍♂️

  • @corey8toto
    @corey8toto 2 года назад +6

    Agree about that is the sauce kinda plugin. It is definitely not the only one plugin you need on your master bus, but as a part of chain with 50% mix or so. It works for me this way.

    • @music7arts
      @music7arts Год назад +1

      Exactly 50% or less is what I found to be just right, anymore is overkill. The limiter section sucks though. It seems to do great on vocals by themselves as well.

  • @evanrosen13
    @evanrosen13 2 года назад +136

    I believe it's Jaycen Joshua's Ozone 4 Preset he made famous a few years ago, but with a limiter. I copied those plugins and settings into Ozone 9 and compared it to the God Particle, it was pretty much the same vibe. EQ>Multiband Exciter>Multiband Compressor>Widener on the top end.

    • @breezyoakk
      @breezyoakk 2 года назад +7

      I have the Ozone 5 & 4 presets, it feels like the same vibe for sure but the god particle adds some fair amount of highend on default. I like the way it sounds but generally I think I will keep using the Ozones because it's what I am used to now and I have more controls with them.

    • @kosiokoli7856
      @kosiokoli7856 2 года назад +29

      Could I get the ozone 9 preset, pls

    • @DeeKeiMixes
      @DeeKeiMixes 2 года назад +4

      Also probably the soft clipper from his lavry

    • @nikku1166
      @nikku1166 2 года назад +3

      @@kosiokoli7856 I 2nd this, I'd love to check out what your talking about there.

    • @evanrosen13
      @evanrosen13 2 года назад +1

      I found the preset for ozone 9 here 2probeats.com/product/2projjozone9/

  • @Dramatello
    @Dramatello Год назад +5

    What mostly stood out for me on my hip hop/electronic songs is that it gives punchiness both to the low end (kick/808) and snare/claps (more to the face snappiness). I liked that a lot.
    I’m having trouble agreeing that this might be my go to mastering plugin.
    It will definitely save me tons of time.
    I’m producing for 20 years and until this day I struggle with great sound.
    If I can lift the curse for 99$ or less, I might just do it

    • @levondarratt787
      @levondarratt787 8 месяцев назад

      it is NOT a mastering pluginl, dude...

  • @florisbackx1744
    @florisbackx1744 2 года назад +13

    Love the track in this video, it sure made the plugin look, or should I say sound good.

    • @djsoulsongs
      @djsoulsongs 2 года назад +1

      Yeah it's lovely, Sunny Days by Adelyn Paik. The plugin doesn't seem bad too :)

  • @joearsenault4024
    @joearsenault4024 8 месяцев назад +3

    I like how it treats the low end, I would like them to slide all of the right side indicators to the left so I could see how far under the high indicator I am .

  • @InnerSpaceSoundLabs
    @InnerSpaceSoundLabs Год назад +2

    Bought it and love it. Not sure what's happening, but the dimensionality is wider and deeper. Makes guitar buss come alive...

  • @gulagwarlord
    @gulagwarlord 2 года назад +12

    Wow, I actually like the sound... didn't expect that. I would love to know a bit more about what it's doing under the hood though.

  • @alienteknology5390
    @alienteknology5390 Год назад +11

    I put one of my professionally mixed tracks through The God Particle's default setting. I then compared the result against a version that came back from the mastering studio. The Particle version was comparable in loudness to the professional master & without any obvious distortion. Overall it sounded pretty good with lots of vibrancy & warmth in the low end. The professional master won hands down regarding attention to detail in the mid & upper mid ranges, which means I won't be swapping the mastering lab for some nifty plugin any time soon, no matter how good it sounds.
    And the God Particle does sound impressive. I've tried several "magic" plugins claiming to provide loudness without distortion that fail miserably. But the God Particle doesn't trip up in that department at least. I think it's best suited to R&B & urban music in general.

    • @levondarratt787
      @levondarratt787 8 месяцев назад

      you beginners need to understand - thsi is NOT a mastering plugin.... this is a mixes simulator... ..I'm giving up...

  • @shawnsteven1869
    @shawnsteven1869 2 года назад

    was waiting for this 🙏🏾 i tried it but also started using the ozone 9 🤷🏾‍♂️ god particle with a clipper instead of the limiter 🤷🏾‍♂️ but i may have to purchase is to play around with it

  • @Christofferox
    @Christofferox 2 года назад +3

    Once again a wonderfull video Wytze. Always been a big fan of the snake oil videos and I always find them interesting, even when its not even about plugins I'm interested in. :D
    Was wondering if you would do a Snake Oil video, on the new SPACE CONTROL stereo widening plugin by Hardwell?.

  • @smx5523
    @smx5523 2 года назад +1

    Really on the fence with this plug-in, thanks for the video. Love the song is there a place to listen to it in its entirety?

  • @Y42
    @Y42 3 месяца назад +3

    "Let's see how far we get" - Immediately turns off the Limiter.... 😥

  • @DruDilly
    @DruDilly 2 года назад +3

    Agree with a lot of this video - it's good for people who don't know how to setup a mix buss. If you have a trash mix, this will just add a little polish to a trash mix but you still need to fix your mix. That said, I think you heard the distortion on the limiter because you were knocking off like 7-8 dbs. I'm never knocking that much off on 1 limiter. I usually will use 2-3 limiters and knock off 1-2 dis per limiter. I've been able to get a pretty loud mix -9 LUFS with the limiter not working that hard.

  • @krinzologicstudio
    @krinzologicstudio 2 года назад

    Sincerely i like to have more control..the wide control is really necessary, i found that a wide control is missing when you go near to 80% the wide starts to be exagerated, and the eq is pretty under not control too… Nice tool with some material source for fast mastering, but do we need fast mastering or more control? Im for more control.

  • @KennyGuyte
    @KennyGuyte 2 года назад +12

    I believe Jason and his team will embrace this honest feedback for Kaizen. As an Engineer in manufacturing it’s difficult to perform a peer review without being honest based on science and experience. Finally, the GUI is amazing in my opinion definitely inspired.

  • @davidroikit8121
    @davidroikit8121 Год назад +8

    I tried it out, liked it a lot but ended up going for the Waves Abbey Road which I think gives more flexibility.

  • @RemstageMusic
    @RemstageMusic Год назад +12

    I used it in a track that i'm working on and it's just the spice my mixes needed. I've used it in solo tracks to make them sound better overall (it really adds weight and clean high boost to anything, drums, guitar, bass, synths...) and then in a more subtle way in the mix bus. I also used the limiter as my first limiter before ProL2 and it made the track louder than i could with 2 L2s. If you don't overdo it it's a really great plugin.

    • @a-gain9043
      @a-gain9043 5 месяцев назад

      Who pays for your comment 😂🤣😂

  • @Kris_jellybeard
    @Kris_jellybeard 2 года назад +1

    I agree, it does add a nice sauce and if you want a quick master to send out it is pretty nice, but I would not use the limiter and prefer to add sonible's smart limiter at the end. The sauve I like is the specific way the harmonics are added...

    • @EliteOnTheBeat
      @EliteOnTheBeat 2 года назад +1

      I've been scrolling for over 10 minutes trying to find this exact comment. THIS is exactly what i plan on doing. Leaving the limiter off and slapping my SmartLimiter at the very end.

  • @JNo-sk5mz
    @JNo-sk5mz Год назад +7

    I really love this plugin, It gets really loud without being harsh, and if you have a good mix going into it, you can get to really nice levels

  • @dab7963
    @dab7963 8 месяцев назад

    I love this plugin. Best plugin I have purchased in the last 8 years.

  • @ChristianBoragine
    @ChristianBoragine 2 года назад +29

    "plugin to spend money on instead of learning how to mix and master" episode 70000

  • @mrnelsonius5631
    @mrnelsonius5631 2 года назад +65

    My initial impression listening: don’t use the limiter if you have other quality limiters with better metering. The quality of the other processing sounds nice for a specific sound. It’s a mastering preset with multiband, compression, EQ balance targets and stereo enhancement. I see the stereo enhancement as the only real problem in its “black box” format. It should have a hidden control/bypass IMO. I may check this out: I like the gluey, wide, mid forward thing it’s doing

    • @nicholasriley4729
      @nicholasriley4729 2 года назад +5

      100%!! These were also my initial thoughts. Something like Pro-L2 or Elevate/other high quality limiters and clippers would be more beneficial.

    • @mrnelsonius5631
      @mrnelsonius5631 2 года назад

      @@nicholasriley4729 yeah, we have access to SUCH great limiters now. I didn’t like this one once it started getting pushed, it kinda fell apart quickly. But for 2bus mixing it’s not a big deal to bypass it because none of us should really be pushing a master limiter hard at that stage anyway ;)

    • @razzerraw1108
      @razzerraw1108 2 года назад

      I’ve seen a lot of mastering engineers lean toward closing the very top high end of a track instead of widening. They do it for the purpose so that highhats and other high percussion won’t get lost in a mix. Personally in my ears it makes the high end a little bit harsher opposite from pushing some stereo width thus becoming softer. Do you have any tips with messing with the stereo width in the high end ? I’d like to achieve solid highs with presence without the harshness !

    • @gulagwarlord
      @gulagwarlord 2 года назад

      @@razzerraw1108 I notice in a lot of my favorite edm tracks, the side channels have the highs rolled off and darker, which makes the main elements pop out more. I guess this is the opposite of widening the highs.

    • @razzerraw1108
      @razzerraw1108 2 года назад

      @@gulagwarlord oh nice, I noticed that in Virtual Riots productions as well if you listen to him

  • @andyanderson398
    @andyanderson398 2 года назад +1

    Sorry I could not pay attention to TGP because your mic sounds so DANG GOOD wow, I want that mic...

  • @Rio-uv1gs
    @Rio-uv1gs 2 года назад

    I noticed that mid and the low indicators work but somehow the high indicator doesn't show anything ...I wondering if its even supposed to because it doesn't have the little box that the level needs to reach..

  • @michaelkhanmusic
    @michaelkhanmusic 2 года назад

    is there a way to turn off the star gooey tho?

  • @manganume
    @manganume 2 года назад +19

    Man,, how do you record and mix such beautiful back vocals? The reverb, the paning, the stereo image, im wowed!

    • @msb1704
      @msb1704 2 года назад +35

      you ask a question & answer it all in the same comment. amazing

  • @Tyroneshotit
    @Tyroneshotit 2 года назад +2

    Dope review! I have this plug in on my master chain and the master sounded amazing until I bounced it out and saw the wav was squashed and distorted so now I have to play around with it😂

    • @olinred
      @olinred 2 года назад

      Did you leave it at 100% or mess with it more

  • @shadowplaynewwavetribute
    @shadowplaynewwavetribute 28 дней назад

    The UI looks amazing ❤

  • @24Jaykid
    @24Jaykid 2 года назад +30

    For Producers this is the perfect plugin to put on your chain , Cradle just need to to release more demo videos for how to use it , so people on all levels can understand not just pros . they are asking us to just trust it because Jaycen Joshua plugin? no way that is not enough to just purchase a 80 dollar plugin.

    • @valgimorais602
      @valgimorais602 2 года назад +4

      there is no need for a demo the plugin is only that what you see volume and automatic dynamics sou people who use it will never know what is doing and its not a replacement for a mastering chain people will never get loud masters whit that what people need is to buy compressor limiter plugins whit mastering grade and the rest is eq thats how you get loudness correctly

    • @RP-vq4wd
      @RP-vq4wd 2 года назад +13

      @@valgimorais602 My dear fellow colleague, you are so wrong! It's not about a compressor or a limiter, the loudness is done in a mix, with some saturation, distortion, overdrive, clippers, tapes, etc. You can use compressors for envelope shaping but not for reducing transients, same goes for a limiter, you don't do that with a limiter. With a limiter, you can process some vocals, pads, atmospheres, and other low transient material. Drums are better processed with a clipper. Short transients are mostly in the higher freq range thus clippers are ideal for that kind of a signal.

    • @shinji1264
      @shinji1264 2 года назад

      @@RP-vq4wd So what is this thing a clipper, limiter or compresso?

    • @valgimorais602
      @valgimorais602 2 года назад

      @@RP-vq4wd ​ @R P you missing the point im not wrong dude why do people want this plug in for loudness you wont give me lessons about it they state did he use only that plug in on is mix bus Coupled with the adaptive limiter section, you can be certain your dynamics and transients will be preserved, all while achieving competitive commercial loudness. all of those steps you talking about i get it all whit different brands and plugin suites, console one weiss ds1 mk3 kelvin unissum life line console and much more this are mixing mastering grade tools they all enable you to go there and further in terms of levels people want to use that to have louder masters and for your lesson learn did one plugin on now days is composed by many other plugins to become one sou all of them have saturation tape clipping compression limiting sou stop whit your crap you re not giving me a lesson for instance an example softube british console native on promo the same price of the god particle and it has a built in drive eq limiter compressor head room phase invert and you can mix and master a song whit that do you still wanna give lessons i know how to get loud proud and clean whit various complete tools upgrade your grade tools and if you go and buy lisa from plug in alliance you can master a track whit that dynamic eq multiband whit opto compression per band drive mono maker stereo tmt for mix and mastering just some examples teacher and dont worry i know how and when to use plugins

    • @WarrenPostma
      @WarrenPostma 2 года назад +1

      @@shinji1264 It's a bunch of things automated together, mostly borrowed/stolen from ozone.

  • @dontfuckwithquerns6459
    @dontfuckwithquerns6459 Год назад +1

    Is thus like a quick fix mastering tool? What is the main usages

  • @martinleduc3210
    @martinleduc3210 9 месяцев назад

    thanks for your honest overview. I'm looking for a tool that can apply slow complex spectral and amplitude modulation, if you have something to propose... I tried Morph EQ, Fuse Compression, EFx Motions, but not Shaperbox 3 yet. My project consists of modulating the sounds from a complex system of real time breath detection, so those mixing tools don't always fit the project. Thanks in advance! Keep your good work. M

  • @superchala
    @superchala 2 года назад +16

    Jaycen said in a livestream that he would use God Particle in the mix bus from the beginning of a mix, on default settings, and use it as a reference and "sauce", and after that if he was sending the mix to outsource mastering he would take the limiter out.
    I think it's a very good mix bus saucer, you can load different curves for reference and keep it on while you make your mix, after you can take it out or leave it in.

    • @ace2euce_
      @ace2euce_ Год назад +6

      lmao why you lying you cant load nothing

    • @lxsm4l18
      @lxsm4l18 Год назад

      O

    • @a-gain9043
      @a-gain9043 5 месяцев назад

      Another paid comment 😂😅🤣

    • @superchala
      @superchala 5 месяцев назад

      Not paid, I was just dumb. @@a-gain9043

  • @tommyottobisdee
    @tommyottobisdee 2 года назад +2

    I may well be over-thinking this, but has anyone got any idea why the EQ band targets are not in the centre of each scale? I've been thinking about this ever since I started demo-ing it and I can't think of any useful reason why they made this decision lol? It's like designing a dart-board with the bullseye on the far edge? 😂🤣 Nice plugin though, the CPU power required is fairly negligible on my system which in itself is quite the achievement considering the amount of CPU required for similar plugins like Greg Wells' Mixcentric or Kush Blyss.

  • @benjameek
    @benjameek 2 года назад

    Hi, I've been checking out the Aston Stealth microphone. I reckon It would be a cool snake oil video. To see what you thought of the mics voicing modes and whether you reckon they are actually useful.

  • @UTOBY
    @UTOBY 2 года назад +1

    Is there a clipper (soft/hard) at the end of the master chain? What are the colourfull stars for? Is the Limiter Multiband as well? Does it, like Newfangled Elevate, mess with the Stereo in the Low Frequencys? Does it catch true peaks?

    • @Dramatello
      @Dramatello Год назад

      I would argue you’re more than likely need a clipper after it, just in case.
      That’s what I would do.

  • @chillwalker
    @chillwalker 2 года назад +20

    Remember: When you say "Mastering is not difficult..whe are done", 50% of the younger Generation don't get that's irony ;-)

    • @judsonsnell
      @judsonsnell 2 года назад +2

      Right, but they can't hear you because their ears are cooked from mixing on plugins like this.

    • @GeryRydell
      @GeryRydell 2 года назад +1

      Mastering is the most overrated process in the whole chain..... If your mix is dogshit mastering can't work wonders... But that's how it is sold... And this is really annoying....

    • @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69
      @AFRoSHEENT3ARCMICHAEL69 2 года назад

      Proof you're trying to hog it all for yourselves lol

    • @everybodyhasoul5438
      @everybodyhasoul5438 2 года назад

      Lol

  • @przmatic_
    @przmatic_ 2 года назад

    The song you mastered is dope!

  • @Bville-E
    @Bville-E Год назад

    Where can I buy this sauce everyone is talking about is it bottled or canned?

  • @soulfaktor
    @soulfaktor 2 года назад +9

    This has to be most soulful version of sandstorm ever.😄 What a beautiful track!

  • @illnoyz5054
    @illnoyz5054 Год назад

    It adds harmonics but the volume is louder because it needs to be in the green to activate the plugin appropriately

  • @KlareAudio
    @KlareAudio 2 года назад +16

    The music in this episode is particularly good

    • @haslo_
      @haslo_ 2 года назад +12

      It's Sandstorm by Darude.

    • @mylogify
      @mylogify 2 года назад

      @@haslo_ 😂

    • @AnimaKon
      @AnimaKon 2 года назад

      I would like to know the name

  • @durtcannon
    @durtcannon 2 года назад

    I couldn't make the plugin working in my DAW. The Cradle installation is crap. Can't choose installation direction.

  • @NeZversSounds
    @NeZversSounds 2 года назад +4

    Song: Sunny Days by Adelyn Paik

  • @joshcoxmusic
    @joshcoxmusic 2 года назад

    definitely a sauce plugin. possible could add cool flavor when mixed in. seems like a halfway decent little tool to play with every now and then

  • @RobinZV1
    @RobinZV1 2 года назад +20

    i found this pretty nice for rock, actually. it opens up the mix, adds harmonics, and does a decent job at adding weight to a mix. granted, i did make sure my initial levels were close to the input targets. probably not an end all solution but, as they say, “close enough for jazz”.

  • @georgepalmer7118
    @georgepalmer7118 Год назад

    What speakers do YOU have? And thanks for the advice. I hear and obey what you say!

  • @patrickthedrummer
    @patrickthedrummer Год назад

    I can’t find a manual. Not sure what the percentage knob is doing.

  • @TeeraLucksanapiruk
    @TeeraLucksanapiruk 2 года назад +2

    lol I was also waiting for this review! Apparently the uninstaller doesn't work very well.

  • @VinceJackson1
    @VinceJackson1 Год назад

    Jason states that hitting the top end depends on if you want a bright mix or a warm mix. Also this is not for mastering its just for mixdown before mastering. He only uses the limiter to see how it would hold up when mastered. Great video!!!

    • @semephor
      @semephor Год назад

      Jaycen mentioned the 'high' multi band reading is basically broken, to be fixed

  • @Crowbar11115
    @Crowbar11115 2 года назад +3

    DAMN...I bought a mic from Sweetwater yesterday. I didn't realize you had affiliate links for them. I would have gladly used it!

  • @CAROLINABACKYARD
    @CAROLINABACKYARD 2 года назад

    Snake oil? Not sure but I do like using it on my master plugin. I still use my own mastering chain then i dial down my output on my last plug-in then put the God particle on. Simply to see if my range is somewhat to what the God particle is expecting it to be. And maybe add a little spice if me if needed

  • @otisrichardson881
    @otisrichardson881 2 года назад +6

    Yep, I think that Slate's VMR, while double the price, is worth it. One can get similar sauce/saturation and wideness, while having more control over the eq and compression and have better limiting.

  • @ayokiff1073
    @ayokiff1073 2 года назад

    probably distorting because you turned the input gain up as well? I was able to get a pretty nice loud mix with the plugin no distortion

  • @jahexcellence623
    @jahexcellence623 11 месяцев назад +1

    the god particle is a beast!!! The whole thing is to mix into it and by the end of your mix... WAAALLLAAAHHH!!! Ya gotta get the pug in too feel the awesomeness!

  • @cacharo5931
    @cacharo5931 Год назад

    😶Can't the space (square) between the treble brackets be moved to the left?

  • @saim138
    @saim138 2 года назад +32

    You've basically nailed how I feel about his, very gimmicky but sounds good. I do like what it does with the low end, very tailored to hip-hop and RnB and from what I know, they ARE making a Hardware Version but as like a giveaway type thing, and maybe some for his friends but I don't think it'll be commercially available as a hardware unit, would be cool if they did.

    • @varsityhr9381
      @varsityhr9381 9 месяцев назад

      Yes, I tried it on a 2 tracks; one was alt country/folk and the other was orchestral. It basically just makes everything distorted. I can see this working on the aforementioned genres, I just don't happen to produce music in those genres.

  • @skirize
    @skirize 2 года назад

    It's distorting at -5/6 RMS??? It looks quite useful for a non-pro.

  • @Barncore
    @Barncore 2 года назад +9

    It's not snake oil. It's a useful tool for bedroom producers to learn about gain staging, OR useful for pro's who need to put out a mix quickly without thinking.
    Side note, probably the prettiest GUI i've seen in a long time

  • @chillydill4703
    @chillydill4703 2 года назад +1

    As a producer, this is a gold plugin on the master. I don't need to use OZ9 because it's too CPU intense and causes latency which makes the workflow with artists really good.

    • @snubdawg1386
      @snubdawg1386 2 года назад

      why you would use oz9 on your mixes anyway?

  • @geanig669
    @geanig669 2 года назад +6

    Weren't the heights compressed because the threshold was at a minimum?

    • @gregrelmueab2142
      @gregrelmueab2142 2 года назад +1

      no thats not a threshold slider. It´s a marker to show how much highs should be pushed into it. Just like the input gain marker

  • @leonardojobst6784
    @leonardojobst6784 2 года назад

    the idea of this plugin is put in the master bus when start mixing a song no in a finish song... to control more the dinamics in the low and mid range

  • @chillwalker
    @chillwalker 2 года назад

    Did you get the mail with the Idea?

  • @mickjames7962
    @mickjames7962 6 месяцев назад +1

    Amazing and exciting. Now all the worlds music can sound EVEN MORE the same than ever before.

  • @davidpocklington6564
    @davidpocklington6564 Год назад

    I like this plug in, works great for me.

  • @hirima95
    @hirima95 2 года назад

    I've been using this on my master since the day it came out. With a 3-4 top shelf boost and a dip at 300-400 (i use AMEK 200) I got a fantastic startingpoint! Totally prefer the % closer to 200% but 100-150 on balads and stuff. The God Particle eq is great as well. I love to boost some of that air and reduse some mid (think its about 600 hz). After God particle i like having a second limiter, just for that last squeez. Since I need my tracks to hit -6 lufs ish in the choruses. Try and see what u think! xx

    • @snubdawg1386
      @snubdawg1386 2 года назад

      you're using this for mastering?

  • @kubolor1234
    @kubolor1234 Год назад

    What it is, is a pre-master chain. The signal path is left to right, INPUT - EQ - MULTIBAND DYNAMICS (PERHAPS OTT) - TO LIMITER.
    By default the plugin gives you 5 db gain increase on the LIMITER
    And the Multiband Dynamics processor is also by default engaged.
    A MASTER CLASS IN PLUGIN MARKETING.

  • @maxuno8524
    @maxuno8524 Год назад +1

    The song you used to demo the plugin made me forget that we are reviewing a plugin
    I actually watched the video twice, just to hear the song again.

  • @PharaohLawLess1
    @PharaohLawLess1 2 года назад +5

    I like the track from the 4:30 mark. That’s my kind of music

  • @ValenteVillanuevaMusic
    @ValenteVillanuevaMusic 2 года назад +1

    Whats the song you are demoing it on? Its amazing!

  • @JoelVega
    @JoelVega 2 года назад +7

    I actually like the limiter. Seems to be distorting less than the limiters I have (Slate, Fabfilter). But many people are saying that it distorts heavily.. interesting

    • @LorneSound
      @LorneSound 2 года назад +1

      Same here, maybe that's because this demo is applying the limiter into an already limited song

    • @RP-vq4wd
      @RP-vq4wd 2 года назад +2

      As I like Jaycen's mixes and as I followed the plugin developpement through his socials (he started teasing it 1.5 years ago I think), this was an instant demo for me. And well, I can safely say that after thoroughly testing it, feeding it multiple types of materials... that this is one of the most useless pieces of junk I have ever installed on my computer. And I've installed MAAT FiDef.
      It's just a mediocre multiband processor preset, with a very restricted amount of control.

  • @ruadeil_zabelin
    @ruadeil_zabelin 2 года назад +5

    I don't feel its snake oil, but I do feel that you're better off just learning to use the base components otherwise it turns into paint by numbers and then you never really build up the experience which will help you in the end go even further.

  • @ahimsabeatz8895
    @ahimsabeatz8895 Год назад

    dope review

  • @rodrigodelprat
    @rodrigodelprat 2 года назад +35

    Take a preset chain, give it a hyperbolic name, some very jargony marketing devoid of any concrete description, and sell it as a standalone black box plugin. This is a masterclass in Snake Oil. If only it were a subscription.

    • @southhour5241
      @southhour5241 2 года назад

      I thought I was the only one, I watched the add and some tutorials and not one person clearly defined what it's for.

    • @rodrigodelprat
      @rodrigodelprat 2 года назад +4

      @@southhour5241 It's actually very straightforward, it's about Beyonce something something... passion something something... attention to detail... being selfless while creating... algorithms... clarity...god particles.

    • @southhour5241
      @southhour5241 2 года назад +1

      @@rodrigodelprat I see, my bad I'll watch some buzzword tutorials on youtube. I will be 80% better at understanding meaningless jargon this year i swear to God! :)

    • @rodrigodelprat
      @rodrigodelprat 2 года назад

      @toto mov9969 Buy this and you will get grammys too. Lots of grammys. I never actually tried it so I have no opinion on the sound, but the marketing is cringe, as is the whole concept of "artist plugins" or whatever these sorts of things are called.

  • @RonnieMirands
    @RonnieMirands 10 месяцев назад

    As always you have a very good musical taste, and make us wonder always which song is played! Anyone knows which song is this?

  • @aw93927
    @aw93927 2 года назад +65

    To be fair to the limiter, I can’t get my softube weiss much further than -6 db reduction without audible distortion. According to the meters, if reduction was in db’s, you were hitting -8 or more when distorting. Would like to see what kind of LUFS you were pushing on the output when it was distorting, and how that compares to other limiters.
    I love how you harp on plugin companies for not doing a true auto gain or having no output gain. I find it very annoying too. However, you complained about their demo not gain compensating the limiter, and then you literally did the same thing in your review… you never did a gain matched bypass, which would’ve been helpful. Really it’d be nice if you did that for EVERY plugin review. I understand the audio gets compressed to a smaller, less quality format than wav 44.1 when uploaded to YT but I can still tell a difference with most plugins when A/B’d with gain matching.

    • @KingAlexander06
      @KingAlexander06 2 года назад +4

      Best comment. Exactly what I was thinking

    • @RP-vq4wd
      @RP-vq4wd 2 года назад

      Do you really still chase loudness with a limiter or a compressor? JFC

    • @DruDilly
      @DruDilly 2 года назад

      Exactly! I was looking for the same thing.

    • @1chaft
      @1chaft 2 года назад

      @@RP-vq4wd how do you push loudness?

    • @millzmix1860
      @millzmix1860 2 года назад

      @@1chaft Look into soft clippers

  • @st33Npuist
    @st33Npuist 2 года назад

    The Prince VST of Cradle has also a lot of volume difference in the presets. A lot.. HUGE

  • @Ibantar
    @Ibantar 2 года назад

    Now you just made the rubber meet the road!! I've often felt a lot of these industry folks connect their name to a product that they, themselves, do not use on a consistent basis. MY PERSONAL OPINION... the "insiders" aren't sharing what they know to those not in their circles. This may be a nice plug-in, but I think I'll pass. Thank you for your transparency!👊🏾

  • @jonevans6356
    @jonevans6356 2 года назад +1

    Thanks a lot for the honest review. By the way, the song/mix you're using is KILLING...beautiful job!

  • @giancarlominotti4137
    @giancarlominotti4137 2 года назад

    so it seems like the brackets are not the "sweet spot" but rather threshold for compression within each frequency band, then you can send separate amounts of gain to each one. Maybe that is why you were not getting any gain reduction out of the highs, because the threshold was set to 0db. Or something along those lines, the layout and lack of labeling makes it a little confusing. Could you try seeing if the bracket can be moved around and get back to us?

    • @EliteOnTheBeat
      @EliteOnTheBeat 2 года назад

      Why not just download the demo version? Its good for 5 days. If you don't like it then forget about it but if you like it then buy it!?!?

  • @skrypture1162
    @skrypture1162 Год назад

    It’s a dope plugin with many credited producers using it on the I master bus

  • @wald3287
    @wald3287 2 года назад +5

    You know, I wanted to hate this thing. The name & marketing is sooo hollywood. But Ive tried it both at the end of mixes and mixing into it and have I have to say, if nothing else, it declutters my mixbus & gets me to the finish line superbly. The thing that I really like is the perspective it gives right at the start & conjunction with a standardized gain stage across the freq spectrum. That really helps pointing the gun in the right direction early. Also, all the top guns have a version of this multiband thing going…Ive seen manny with a fabfilter MB on the bus, serban with the ml-4000, and Jaycen with this. Perfectly useful tool👌🏻

    • @moscoenterprise8586
      @moscoenterprise8586 2 года назад

      Where did you get the info on Serban using ml-4000 ?

    • @wald3287
      @wald3287 2 года назад

      @@moscoenterprise8586 from his assistant John Hanes. Go and check out his treads over at gearspace, he gives out a lot of useful info about serban’s methods

    • @moscoenterprise8586
      @moscoenterprise8586 2 года назад

      @@wald3287 Thx for the info. I actually read some of it like a year ago when he started doing it, I guess he is still sharing new info. Also I heard Manny was using C4 (as weird as it sounds) - do you remember where you heard about him switching to fabfilter mb?

    • @wald3287
      @wald3287 2 года назад

      @@moscoenterprise8586 you’re right he does use the c4. I was at a mix with the masters & saw him using both actually. The fabfilter was used to massage the high mids transparently (only sometimes with super dense arrangements)

    • @moscoenterprise8586
      @moscoenterprise8586 2 года назад

      @@wald3287 that’s great! I envy you in a good way) & thx for confirmation

  • @martinsnelaudioenhancement
    @martinsnelaudioenhancement 2 года назад +5

    I'm using the Ozone 4 preset from Jaycen from time to time, especially when I'm mixing hip hop records. The God Particle is based on his Ozone 4 sound, but then a bit improved with a warmer sound. I personally really like this plugin, the curve is really useful even for professional mixing engineers. It is a saturator, a multiband compressor and a limiter. I don't use the limiter, but I do love the glue from the multiband compressor. You shouldn't compress your highs too much (or not) when you are working with this plugin. It'll keep things nice and dynamic when your mid range is being heavily compressed. You should try this plugin on default settings, be sure your bass isn't crossing 2dB and see where you'll end up. For me this is a great plugin that is almost on every mix.

  • @onteraction8294
    @onteraction8294 2 года назад

    Can you turn the gui off?

  • @georgezorbas9036
    @georgezorbas9036 2 года назад

    Why this and not to buy Izotope????? Am I wrong?

  • @chandeleerjet5637
    @chandeleerjet5637 2 года назад +6

    This has become the only plug-in I’m using aside from my hardware. It used to be Dyn one 3 but with God Particle it gets me the results I want faster than anything else I’ve tried. Best $80 I’ve ever spent

    • @EliteOnTheBeat
      @EliteOnTheBeat 2 года назад +4

      THANK YOU for this comment! Not sure why theirs so much hate....I feel like most the hate comes from people who haven't even been making music for a decades time so they simply don't understand what its doing "under the hood" and just quick to call it "snake oil"

    • @chandeleerjet5637
      @chandeleerjet5637 2 года назад

      @@EliteOnTheBeat exactly! I honestly didn’t want to like it because Jaycen acted like a snob to me before on Instagram lol but I’m never biased with products. In my first experience trying it, I did an instrumental mix with one of my favorite hardware chains… API 5500>Blackbox>tla100>crane song STC8 and got a great mix in about 10 minutes. Then I took the dry instrumental, slapped God Particle on it , turned a few knobs and got a better sound in literally 10 seconds. That alone told me it was well worth the $80. I was kind of upset at first that an $80 plug-in beat the 20k hardware chain I worked so hard for but I think they designed to not think about music and just get a quick sound by feeling and that’s pretty how I always try to create. The simple interface and minimalist layout is perfect for quick results especially when you want to just get a nice export. I don’t think it will permanently replace hardware of mine but I find myself reaching for it lately just for its ease of use.

    • @Chosenone429
      @Chosenone429 2 года назад

      Facts..Definitely one of the best plugins I bought in a long time

  • @jahgotthejuice
    @jahgotthejuice 2 года назад +6

    Update: Jaycen Joshua confirmed there will be a hardware version in the near future.
    Also this pretty much sums of the plugin in my opinion after using:
    Limiter = similar to Pro- L2
    EQ + Multiband Comp = similar to Izotope Ozone 4 (Jaycen's Settings)
    Amount Knob = similar to CLA Mixbus + Soothe 2
    Mixing or Mastering? Both
    Monitors needed: Yamaha NS10's + ATC Loudspeakers
    Special note: this plugin was designed to add density and weight to your mix.

  • @arturbomert9877
    @arturbomert9877 2 года назад

    This is pretty good plugin. 6:30:-)Great song!

  • @Ruffrufus
    @Ruffrufus 2 года назад +1

    What's the name of the track and who is the artist it's beautiful?

  • @RicoTTENT
    @RicoTTENT 2 года назад +1

    It doesn’t introduce the latency Ozone 9 mastering does but it’s better as mixing plugin I think.
    I have this on a channel by itself to mix into while writing and producing.
    Hotkey bypass for quick A/B while setting gain and levels and you can kind of foreshadow the mix a bit and catch problems sooner.
    I make EDM & Rap.
    I would imagine more dynamic genres with heavy guitars and cymbals crashing through it could get dampened?

    • @Reggi_Sample
      @Reggi_Sample Год назад

      You use this and Ozone together?

  • @christiensebastien2442
    @christiensebastien2442 Год назад

    Sorry, but what's the point of reviewing a plugin if we can't hear the A/B of the audio?

  • @absurdjack
    @absurdjack 2 года назад +3

    Captain here: track is called Sandstorm by Darude

  • @KaleXDeGreat
    @KaleXDeGreat 2 года назад +10

    You do good reviews however this isn’t one of them. Your comparison wasn’t level matched (even tho you complained about them not level matching on the website). You complained about the distortion after pushing the limiter to levels that in most cases you wouldn’t when mastering. You did make some good points however these were a miss.

    • @Bagheera_Smoov
      @Bagheera_Smoov 2 года назад

      But how do you know whether he gain staged his comparison or not? This video never shows him controlling any levels for you to conclude that. Also, what if all of his mixing is in the box? Then he doesn't need to gain stage. And, finally, he's likely playing a two track, so why would you gain stage a two track? In fact, I don't even think you can gain stage a two track.

    • @KaleXDeGreat
      @KaleXDeGreat 2 года назад +1

      @@Bagheera_Smoov my bad I meant level matching. And it’s easy to tell that he isn’t matching the levels cause he literally just cranks the limiter up without compensating for volume change.

  • @dyonissiszoes3747
    @dyonissiszoes3747 Год назад +12

    It sounds really good IMO. A bit of a "fairy dust" plugin where you can't really control everything that's going on but let's be honest, even with hardware, there's no "science" to what ratio or what attack sounds good on a full mix. There's just turning the knobs and feeling if it adds anything. And here it can add a lot depending on the material!