The Best Old School Reverb Trick?

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  • Опубликовано: 26 дек 2024

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  • @Producelikeapro
    @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +62

    What are your favorite reverb tricks?

    • @aleksamrkela831
      @aleksamrkela831 4 года назад +14

      I create a gated snare plate without using a gate: I take a plate, make it short and timed to the tempo and compress the devil out of it. :D

    • @markacton2254
      @markacton2254 4 года назад +17

      The Abbey Rd trick is always a good one to allow you to use more reverb and not let it get in the way. Also, occasionally I like to time the pre-delay on things like the snare to create a rhythmic effect. Sometimes I like to have a completely dry vocal and the reverb in parallel too. Mostly, I just don't know what I'm doing and hope for the best.

    • @paulphilippart7395
      @paulphilippart7395 4 года назад +2

      Great stuff,makes me miss using a couple of 2 track Studers with vari speed from 15 to 30 ips as pre-delay,usually some AMS delays,always needed another channel,into a colossal EMT plate,miss that motor creaking away like a tardis,...man I loved that sound,the pre delay was always the key for multi channel use,
      as much as authentic that colossal arrangement was,plug ins aint half nailing it.

    • @ArielTavori
      @ArielTavori 4 года назад +2

      I like putting DearVR inserts on my mono tracks to put them in a 'real space' before I send them to reverb (lately it's usually R4 or iRCam). Might be interesting to try this trick on my stereo tracks though..?

    • @philippgrunert8776
      @philippgrunert8776 4 года назад +4

      @Kevin i read CLA never Puts reverb on direct mics in Drums, only on the room and maybe overheads. I think this along those lines.

  • @thimovijfschaft3271
    @thimovijfschaft3271 3 года назад +77

    You can also low pass the predelays with different amounts, so that the instruments that are further away, sound further away in the reverb :)

  • @Wayne_Robinson
    @Wayne_Robinson 4 года назад +58

    That "all in the same room" sound really completes the live recording and demonstrates that simplicity is sometimes the best creative choice.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +8

      Thanks ever so much! Yes, amazing players does really help!

  • @clairerogerpembery2920
    @clairerogerpembery2920 4 года назад +19

    I love this - my reverb was either too complicated and confused or it didn't add any depth. Now my singer sits at the front with the instruments behind them. To make my life easier, I create 3 bus "layers": front, middle and back, and route all the instruments into the them parallel wherever I want to put them on the "stage". Each of these buses goes into my reverb channel.

    • @amado5490
      @amado5490 8 месяцев назад +1

      I see. So instead of creating one delay channel strip for every instrument like Warren does (where you determine how delayed you want that instrument to feed into the reverb bus), you create three busses with a different amount of delay each and send every instrument to those depending on where you want them to sit on the stage. And those three busses will turn feed into the reverb bus. Sounds good!

  • @squoblat
    @squoblat 4 года назад +243

    Just for the record, I've clearly watched too many PLAP videos as I've found myself saying "I hope you're doing marvellously well" to people entirely unintentionally.

  • @TNTales
    @TNTales 4 года назад +29

    I used to just put one mild reverb on the master bus to glue it together, but this will give me so much more control. Your videos are proof that you don't need a bunch of special gear, hour long tricks, etc. There are simple, beautiful sounding techniques you can use. So thank you. Please do more of these digitized versions of simple classic tricks. Please please please.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +3

      Thanks ever so much Chris! Yes, far more control this

  • @pauldalby8196
    @pauldalby8196 4 года назад +20

    This is one of those things I will look back on as a real landmark for my mixing skills. I can see that often I end up indiscriminately painting a mess with reverb.
    What a great lesson to illustrate many things.

  • @josephmerrill2686
    @josephmerrill2686 4 года назад +25

    You put the Sunset plugin on a track recorded at Sunset, the glorious meta!!!

  • @jacquesboileau6087
    @jacquesboileau6087 4 года назад +84

    I am totally impressed! This is exactly what this song needed. This is one of the best reverb lesson I have yet seen on RUclips. Going from reverb bypass to on is such an eye opener (... or ear opener), it glues the mix so well and makes it cohesive. Really well done Warren!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +2

      Thanks ever so much Jacques! You Rock!!

    • @ST-fl5fy
      @ST-fl5fy Год назад

      @@Producelikeapro hello Warren I want to understand the pre delay better. In Logic I would place the delay on the track as an insert or send? And using the reverb as a send or busing that track to the verb?

    • @jonowirion
      @jonowirion Год назад +3

      @@ST-fl5fy place it on the duplicated track and send that to the reverb is what i got from it.

  • @wyshwood
    @wyshwood Год назад +4

    Extraordinary. Fascinating how good this sounds without all the usual fannying about.

  • @joshuanewton1016
    @joshuanewton1016 4 года назад +43

    I have never heard what that reverb plugin actually sounds like until now, and boy is it gorgeous!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Yes it certainly is!!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +2

      @Gerhard Schöner haha thanks ever so much!

    • @chuckcostello5167
      @chuckcostello5167 4 года назад +1

      @Gerhard Schöner I felt the same way about the spring setting. I actively thought, "that's the best-sounding spring reverb I've ever heard." Couldn't believe it.

  • @bobbykanemusictube
    @bobbykanemusictube 4 года назад +15

    I have been trying this sort of thing for a while. With little success, mind you. Now that I know the secret, You can bet I'll be back at it. Thank you, Warren.

    • @petesawchuk
      @petesawchuk 4 года назад +1

      How great is this track, Bobby? I never tire of it!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Thanks ever so much Bobby!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      @@petesawchuk agreed! Great song!

    • @splashesin8
      @splashesin8 4 года назад

      This is one I'll need lots of practice with wrapping my head around. I think I'll save this one. 😅 I will eventually get the hang of it. I feel so peculiar thinking about where to start creating reverb this way.
      I'm coming from an earlier world where for fun reverb, I'd be riding with my music making and other performing friends to go driving around to all of the fun natural spaces we knew of with built in environmental reverb, and record ourselves. We threw several after hours coed parties in various locker rooms and empty nunneries to just check what it would sound like in different places. Barn silos, to missile silos, Red Rocks, to Central City, mine shafts. In the empty museum waiting for the planetarium laser Rock Show. In the empty planetarium itself, and in the zoo, at different habitats etc. I miss those people so much I didn't realize the rarity of that kind of openness of cooperative experimentation and cohesion amongst that many people at once. I know this was just about reverb, but it reminded me of what fun we had building a performance (many types of performances) and then capturing bits of it to do again, keeping what worked and making it better each time.
      I think this place reminds me of the spirit of that bunch of people. ❤️

  • @peterbrusch1493
    @peterbrusch1493 4 года назад +5

    This is a possible solution for all that reverb-horror, many of us use to get in. GREAT!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +3

      Yes! Exactly Peter! Thanks for your great comment!

    • @starboy2013
      @starboy2013 4 года назад +1

      Yeah death by a choices.

  • @zachary963
    @zachary963 4 года назад +15

    Listening to you play around with the drum predelay settings, and I’d just like to point out: Sound travels through air at about 1 foot per millisecond, so if you want your drums to feel 10 feet behind the vocal, 10 milliseconds should get you there!
    Also, the more predelay, it might be beneficial to add more of the wet signal into a mix.
    Of course, that’s if you want a strictly “realistic” sound

    • @gaganbakana
      @gaganbakana 10 месяцев назад

      It varies, but, generally, sound travels at about 1127 ft. per second. So, it takes 1/1127 seconds to travel one foot. you are right

    • @anointed_ndking
      @anointed_ndking 5 месяцев назад +1

      hey man, help me gain more clarity on this. normally a sound source seems closer if sent to a verb with some predelay and seems farther if sent to a verb with no predelay, hope I'm correct.
      but with this trick it seems like the sound sources with no predelay, like the vocal seems closer, and those with some predelay seems father.
      could someone who has this really figured out help explain better.
      I'd like to have some better understanding of what I'm doing so i could have more control

  • @MarcBecker_Music
    @MarcBecker_Music 4 года назад +1

    I love this trick. It works so well to put closed miked sources and dry virtual instruments in a virtual room and make them sound cohesive. Thank you for sharing, Warren.

  • @tstrip2010
    @tstrip2010 4 года назад +1

    I really love how this video creates space out of "nothing" in the sense that the tracks are dry, and end up with life in them. Thank you!

  • @peterpiper0815
    @peterpiper0815 4 года назад +19

    This song sounds really nice to my ears. Doesn't matter if the reverb is on or off :)

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Thanks ever so much!

    • @buddyalbert5808
      @buddyalbert5808 4 года назад +2

      Yep, the vocal is on point. 👍
      It’s so good I kinda like it dry and intimate. Great stuff Warren.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      @@buddyalbert5808 Thanks ever so much!

  • @claudius3124
    @claudius3124 4 года назад +9

    Big thanks Warren for reminding me that old trick - I almost forgot... Here's another I'm sure you know : sometimes I put an expander (not a gate) before the verb and set it so as the signal gets louder, more of it is sent to the verb... works well with delay, of course! Have a wonderful day! ;-)

    • @alaspooryorick9946
      @alaspooryorick9946 4 года назад +1

      Nice!! I'm definitely going to try that

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +2

      Thanks ever so much for that great tip Claudius!!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      @@alaspooryorick9946 yes! Marvellous!

    • @volfore
      @volfore 4 года назад

      Something like this was done for Heroes by Bowie wasn’t it? Three mics with three different thresholds or something like that. I could be remembering it wrong.

    • @claudius3124
      @claudius3124 4 года назад

      @@volfore I didn't know that but I wouldn't be surprised ;-)

  • @FarhanKhan-fj6bv
    @FarhanKhan-fj6bv 4 года назад +6

    Can't thank u enough sir for all the help you r providing to all the budding producers. It feels more like interning at a studio rather than watching RUclips vids. U and Michael from "in the mix" r one of the finest in the game.
    Much love n respect ✊

    • @Awen_Music
      @Awen_Music 4 года назад

      Couldn't agree more @Farhan Khan! Warren always makes me feel like I'm in the studio with him (only I can rewind him at will!) Great "tone" to his vids. 😁

  • @plastic__6640
    @plastic__6640 4 года назад +21

    I love this sound of the reverb you create, you really did a good job!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Thanks ever so much!!

    • @MixChecks
      @MixChecks 4 года назад +1

      Warren uses reverb marvelously well :)

  • @EISERMANN80
    @EISERMANN80 4 года назад +10

    Great tip. I think what’s confusing some people is WHERE exactly the delays for each individual track are inserted. As far as I got my head around it (without trying in my DAW), you do it like that:
    1. Create a parallel channel for each track (or group) you want the reverb on.
    2. Insert the delay on those parallel channels at a 100% wet, no feedback. Set the (pre-)delay time.
    3. Turn the parallel channel’s volume fader down.
    4. Send the parallel channel’s delayed signal pre-fader(!) to your reverb buss like you would normally do.
    Correct me if I’m wrong!

    • @danepaulstewart8464
      @danepaulstewart8464 Год назад

      That must be it.
      It’s straight forward and it absolutely will create what is shown here.
      😎👍

    • @baldy5683
      @baldy5683 Год назад

      Very helpful thank you!

  • @carnabystudios8267
    @carnabystudios8267 4 года назад +7

    You never fail to make my day (and hopefully production life easier) with these pearls of wisdom. Thanks for your generosity Warren

  • @markbeeson5674
    @markbeeson5674 4 года назад +6

    I love tips like this because it's so practical and I get caught up in having too many reverb options that can make mixing a song so much harder. Thanks Warren.

  • @nohillforahighstepper
    @nohillforahighstepper Год назад +3

    Great mix.
    Reminds me of a very well mixed live performance in a venue with awesome natural reverb.

  • @emmanuelgire8513
    @emmanuelgire8513 4 года назад +2

    Splendid demonstration of "less is more" approach. Very, very interesting... Thank you so much Warren.

  • @crunchyfrog555
    @crunchyfrog555 4 года назад +10

    This is a great cheat I've used on my thing of using electronic instruments (I predominantly fiddle around with synths and drum machines and so on). It's a great way of creating the illusion that these instruments were sat in a room physically and recorded thus.
    I've managed also to use it to split up things that very slightly clashed too by moving them a bit more away from each other. Though that's probably not something I'd recommend as that was more of a bodge on my part.
    I particularly love doing it by "building up". Start with the first track, add what you feel is right, then add another track, and so on. If you get it wrong or lose yourself, drop back. It's a great trcik and it absolutely WILL teach you to use reverb correctly and efficiently if you don't have it sussed.

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Thanks ever so much for sharing Daniel! I really appreciate it!

  • @Keygp
    @Keygp 3 года назад +1

    You say it is old school, I say it is new cool! I have never heard abletons stock reverbs bringing life to sounds like with this trick. A feel of a space and unity of a mood are ears opening to me. It’s so close to those old Japanies ambient records where reverb as such is hard to grasp, because it’s feels like environment not a reverb. Thank you for this lesson!

    • @7thNoteOfficial
      @7thNoteOfficial 2 года назад

      Im definitely going to try this in my songs

  • @gutekzpoligonu
    @gutekzpoligonu 4 года назад +3

    1. The song is great and has some cool old school vibes
    2. Beside a cool trick with reverb, the instruments were recorded/sampled perfect and that shows how much depends on good quality instrument recordings
    3. The reverb sounds great and even in full mode it doesn't sound like a "too much" spring - like if You crank loud the amp spring reverb.

  • @olympiamusic2682
    @olympiamusic2682 2 года назад +1

    This is my favorite video of yours! Love this method. TY!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  2 года назад +2

      Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 Год назад +1

    Awesome. There's a version of this where you create two identical reverbs.... Except one is set to only have early refections.... And it's counterpart is set to only use the tail. Then everything that you send to the reverbs can also have a different amount going to early reflections and the reverb tail... That in conjunction with pre-delays can make it sound even more real that everything is in different places in the same room.

  • @RC32Smiths01
    @RC32Smiths01 4 года назад +2

    You know it's the best when it's still great despite being old school! Cheers for the work!

  • @lahattec
    @lahattec 4 года назад +1

    This was an ideal track for this technique, I think, being so open and not filled with harmonic content. And brilliantly recorded, I must say. Thanks!

  • @bryanharrison3889
    @bryanharrison3889 4 года назад +2

    Brother, i havent seen anybody do this in decades... great trick from the vault my friend!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Thanks ever so much! I really appreciate it

  • @AlejoFalcesTango
    @AlejoFalcesTango 5 месяцев назад

    Just to consider why magic happens and not give all the credits to the reverb technique, which is undoubtedly great. The nature of the sound of each instrument is great, the recording of them too, there is no compression so the song breathes freely all the time and finally the reverb finishes coloring like silk what was previously already very good. Excellent work in every way and thank you very much for sharing.

  • @marcelmiagi4579
    @marcelmiagi4579 2 года назад +1

    I love this trick. To my ears, it sounds a lot more natural too, which I think is something that is often taken for granted. Great presentation as always, Warren. Thanks brother.

  • @chrisallandrums
    @chrisallandrums 3 года назад +1

    Yes. This is great! Using the same reverb for EVERYTHING really makes it feel like a group of people playing a song. Using different spaces, reverbs, studios, whatever...really makes a disconnect. Thanks for this! Subscribed.

    • @7thNoteOfficial
      @7thNoteOfficial 2 года назад

      Especially if you get it wrong mixing different reverbs this is definitely more safer and consistent

    • @bert7548
      @bert7548 2 года назад

      It's not natural to have more than one type of reverb on one song anyway, it's the case of too many cooks spoil the broth.

    • @7thNoteOfficial
      @7thNoteOfficial 2 года назад

      @@bert7548 thats y songs of today have no space to breathe.

  • @Breakstuff5050
    @Breakstuff5050 Год назад +1

    I love this vocal performance!

  • @jaybyrddoggie
    @jaybyrddoggie 3 года назад +3

    I usually time the reverb with the BPM of the song. Then experiment with the millisecond values of pre-delay (1/4 note 1/8 note 1/16 note 1/32 note ETC) for each instrument and vocal in the song. Yea, it's time-consuming but the reward is the "everything in one room" sound that is so cool. But sometimes you might not worry about timing the reverb, and just add a little mix of a bused reverb to each instrument or vocal. If it works in the mix then that's cool too.

  • @MrFelonyLoc
    @MrFelonyLoc 2 года назад

    I figured it out! I had to do bit of different routing tho since I use reason 11 , on each bus track I created a parallel ,then I sent each p channel prefader , turned each p channel all the way down then adjusted each send of the parallel channels along with a delay plugin on each p track. Boom! now i have not only everything in one room now I have front to back depth!

  • @nostaticatall
    @nostaticatall 4 года назад +2

    This is absolutely magical. Exactly the sort of technique I love. Thanks for sharing.

  • @GregKosic
    @GregKosic 4 года назад +1

    That's friggen AMAZING!!!! Warren I bow down to you thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! :)

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +2

      Thanks ever so much! You’re very kind!

    • @GregKosic
      @GregKosic 4 года назад

      @@Producelikeapro Quite welcome, I have learned a lot from you :) keep up the great vids so very greatful. Cheers!

  • @pauljonesesquire
    @pauljonesesquire 4 года назад +5

    It puts me in mind of The Band, sounds great.

  • @sinoptikband
    @sinoptikband 4 года назад +1

    And really wanna thank you from my band account too! Mr Warren because of your video for the last 5 years I learned to mix my music to the level which we have now! Thank you! Stay safe and keep doing your great job! Sinoptik - occult rock trio from Ukraine

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +2

      Wow!! Thanks ever so much! I'm glad to be able to help!

  • @michaelshreve6455
    @michaelshreve6455 2 года назад +4

    That sounds freaking amazing!
    Thanks for that!

  • @StevieBoyesmusic
    @StevieBoyesmusic 4 года назад

    Yes, I have done this, cool trick, I also sometimes EQ the sends differently HPF/LPF etc.

  • @hopetea7670
    @hopetea7670 4 года назад +1

    This is just brilliant. It actually can be deployed in more complex environments it gives a sense of real space.

  • @askomiko
    @askomiko 3 года назад

    I went "WHOAAA" the instant you switched to the Spring model. That's seriously the nicest spring plugin I've heard, got to get this one.

  • @nebstaism
    @nebstaism 4 года назад +5

    Sounds amazing... I’m definitely copping that reverb.. t-racks plug-ins are top notch

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +2

      Thanks ever so much!!

    • @nebstaism
      @nebstaism 4 года назад

      @@Producelikeapro thanx warren your vids are always inspiring

  • @unknownmusicman
    @unknownmusicman Год назад +1

    I've learned so many cool tricks by watching your channel. It's been an invaluable resource to me. Thank you!

  • @petegreenfield8366
    @petegreenfield8366 4 года назад

    Your videos are pure gold. As a DAW beginner I've been acquiring plug ins like crazy. No more! Thanks Warren!

    • @MixChecks
      @MixChecks 4 года назад +1

      Gotta stop the plugin buying addiction! :) You can join PBA (Plugin Buyers Anonymous)

  • @splifmandidi
    @splifmandidi 4 года назад +1

    Great trick! Thank you warren!
    Delay on 200ms for drums was phenomenal!!!

  • @DigiMixAudio
    @DigiMixAudio 6 месяцев назад

    Rock on Nathan, and thanks for the welcome 32c Channel Strip tips!

  • @Zenvo-uu9tm
    @Zenvo-uu9tm 4 года назад

    This reverb setup suited the song marvelously well

  • @BAADSessions
    @BAADSessions 4 года назад +1

    That reverb plugin is stunning!

  • @arielsmusic4229
    @arielsmusic4229 Год назад +1

    This is the concept what i need "All in one room"
    Thankyou sir

  • @mdp303
    @mdp303 4 года назад +3

    This reminds me of band recording on 8 track years ago with a single REV 7 reverb unit. Your guys play a bit better than we did but the recording you made has the feel of one of those recordings. Listening now I sort of miss recording that way. Don’t miss the stress of having to know your part for risk of cost overuns

  • @TomaMilteau
    @TomaMilteau Год назад +1

    Amazing ! Thnx for the trick and congrats for the band and the rec !!! 👏👏👏

  • @ska2dt
    @ska2dt 4 года назад +2

    Forget the rest of the tracks, that vocal is all I needed.

  • @dennisallredjr
    @dennisallredjr Месяц назад +1

    I really like this approach it's simple and sounds great. I am trying it out right now on a mix . That sounds great brother

  • @KipCount
    @KipCount 3 года назад

    This is fantastic. Definitely gives it an instant 60s vibe. In the past I've used an empty hollowed out bedroom for a reverb chamber, and I use to love to send tracks out to it. It was definitely a poor man's chamber reverb, but it was quirky and I loved it. I don't have that luxury anymore, no empty bedroom, but this plugin really gives me some of that back again, in a much better sounding room of course, but still with lots of personality.

  • @craigwestwood1
    @craigwestwood1 4 года назад +5

    Brilliant tips here Warren - thanks! I have often added too many reverbs and delays in the past and just ended up with a muddy mess. I'm a big believer in "less is more" in which case, and very often I've been doing much as you've done here, adding just one reverb, but love the extra delay tip on each instrument before it sends to the verb. Definitely something I'm going to be trying on my mixes.

  • @MeTuLHeD
    @MeTuLHeD 4 года назад

    I call this "the glue reverb". Been doing it for a LONG time now. On certain styles/genres it is just what the doctor ordered. Makes everything sit together perfectly. It's especially great on small ensemble stuff like this.

  • @es355lucille4
    @es355lucille4 4 года назад +1

    Reverb is by far one of my favourite effects. Marvellous done Warren! Sounded amazing!

    • @Producelikeapro
      @Producelikeapro  4 года назад +1

      Thanks ever so much! Glad to be able to help!

  • @Firegardenmusic
    @Firegardenmusic 3 года назад +1

    This is exactly I needed on my new mix

  • @LodvarDude
    @LodvarDude 4 года назад

    I often send all my 4-5 main busses into an instance of UAD Ocean Way. I cut some bottom end and blend it in the mix...aaand voila. It's like putting a band INSIDE THAT ROOM using those mics. Absolutely lovely!
    That delay on the reverbs is a cool trick. Very schnitz and sniggles. Me like!

  • @venturahowie
    @venturahowie 4 года назад +1

    I´m going to try it right now!

  • @FakingANerve
    @FakingANerve 4 года назад +3

    Wowwww that verb plugin is just... damn sexy!

  • @dpinskey
    @dpinskey 3 года назад

    I love it Shows how easily you can use something so simple to provide cohesion and adding depth. A perfect demonstration the K.I.S.S. Method.

  • @reginaldworthington7558
    @reginaldworthington7558 4 года назад

    Yep, I do this. Set up one reverb I like on a single bus and send varying amounts to it from individual channel strips. Have not found a need to stack up other reverbs doing it this way so far. Shout out to the musicians as well btw - great track!

  • @markshortall3384
    @markshortall3384 4 года назад +6

    Wow thats an incredible trick

  • @sumyupee
    @sumyupee 4 года назад +3

    This is pretty much my favorite way to use reverb to make it sound like the instruments were played in a specific space. You nailed it. One extra thing I like to do is adjust the volume up of the reverb based on which instruments or individual drums would be more dynamically responsive, you could also try panning the reverb sends to help create the sense the instruments are coming from a different area in the room.

  • @jameschawkinsart
    @jameschawkinsart 4 года назад +1

    I started in the days of limited FX, but never knew this trick. Thank you for sharing!

  • @robshrock-shirakbari1862
    @robshrock-shirakbari1862 4 года назад +1

    Yes, that was it... at Westworld Recorders (Sherman Way and Van Nuys---gone now) we had a single plate, an RMX16, an old Yamaha reverb I never used much, and a real tape delay. That was it.
    We had 3 Lexicon delays that we would use to set different pre-delay times on different sends: usually 1) lead vocal; 2) snare; 3) everything else. If using the AMS unit on the drums, I think that knocked us down to only 2 different pre-delays available for the plate. It was a patching thing, but I can't quite remember where the limitation was... console or patchbay.
    We got a lot of mileage out of all that, and it seemed quite normal. This was mid-80s.

  • @TheStuderman
    @TheStuderman 3 года назад +1

    My type of mixing. Excellent. Sounds right.

  • @martinjohnbutler
    @martinjohnbutler 4 года назад +1

    Dang, I like the drums just as they are, no compression needed. I think that's because the drummer is really good!

  • @madmac66
    @madmac66 4 года назад +2

    Weird. Sounds so much more unnatural when completely dry. That bit of verbs really brings it to life. Great technique. Thanks for sharing

  • @rfuza
    @rfuza 4 года назад

    I always thought that was the obvious way to apply reverb for a natural live sound but didn't know that it was a old school trick. Nice!

  • @mikesparks3398
    @mikesparks3398 2 года назад

    Always learn so many little things from Produce like a Pro!

  • @paulcamus8944
    @paulcamus8944 4 года назад

    what a great exercise to get students to understand the effect of predalay
    in the mix itself. Thanks!

  • @Qomplex
    @Qomplex 4 года назад +1

    Wonderful video. I will definitely give this a try!

  • @monsieurd.
    @monsieurd. Год назад +1

    Thank you again Monsieur !

  • @Cosmonaut1999
    @Cosmonaut1999 4 года назад +1

    Thank you Warren this simple trick has completely opened out my mixes and given them breadth and depth
    .

  • @edmoss2020
    @edmoss2020 2 года назад

    Eveytime I hear this it makes me smile sounds so good, sounds like a record made in the 70s..👍

  • @josephforrest3713
    @josephforrest3713 Год назад +1

    Hahahaha, I love it. ALL the monitors lol.

  • @glendabed
    @glendabed 3 года назад

    Ah this is one of the best PLAP videos yet, so informative on a fundamental level, top banana!

  • @GingerLeftyGuitar
    @GingerLeftyGuitar 2 года назад

    I was practice mixing using one of the Cambridge multitracks, and I was getting there with the mix, but wasn’t totally happy. Implementation of this trick totally put me in the happy place. The track I was mixing was live recorded too in 1 take. This technique works a treat for that type of material

  • @drumsmut
    @drumsmut 4 года назад

    absolutely the best 18 minutes on recording/mixing techniques on youtube!! thanks a ton for sharing this ..it actually answered some question for me! thx again and cheers!!!

  • @zackfreedman2486
    @zackfreedman2486 4 года назад

    Wow, I just started doing this last year, figured it out myself... To hear from a pro like you that it's "how it's done" is a great feeling! Love your videos!

  • @wasabifox
    @wasabifox 4 года назад +1

    I used to do that exact thing back in the day, pre-SSL, when we were recording/ mixing in the early 70's.

  • @laz288
    @laz288 4 года назад

    I love this technique. A lot of the complex reverbs really draw CPU power. Having one with bus delay is so simple but yet never would have thought of that.

  • @marin4311
    @marin4311 4 года назад

    That's a real trick. I hope my next mix will sound marvelously well.

  • @DavidGilden
    @DavidGilden 4 года назад

    What a cool technique for utilizing a shared reverb - sending different groups or instruments with different amounts of predelay! absolutely amazing thank you Warren!

  • @ThisMichaelBrown
    @ThisMichaelBrown 3 года назад +1

    Cool! That was fun....sounded very organic and natural

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums 4 года назад +2

    Think about standing in a church. The choir in the back is hitting you at the same time as the reverb surrounding the direct signal. The person sitting in front of you chatting away has a direct signal which hits you first, followed by the sound of the room following after a short delay for the signal to hit the walls and come back.
    In fact in an acoustic room a pre-delay would suggest that the person is closer to you. No pre-delay would suggest that the person is further away. This explanation is great but exactly backwards if the intention is to push the singer towards the front. In this mix the drums sound closer to you than the vocal, but the effect is still pleasing, and the one room verb is very effective.

  • @gary_stavropoulos
    @gary_stavropoulos 4 года назад

    Something so simple yet sounds great .

  • @tssitcom
    @tssitcom 4 года назад +1

    I've never actually done this. Will definitely try it out. Thanks Warren.

  • @jakobole
    @jakobole 4 года назад

    In my default setup, I have an SSL-Bus-comp, a chorus, a doubler, a gated, a short, a long reverb and a delay. If I need something special, it'll get loaded up as an insert usually - this setup also ensures a faster workflow with new material. I has serverd me very well. But these are usually enough.

  • @donniehill5688
    @donniehill5688 4 года назад +4

    WOW, Surprised with The Spring. Thanks again Warren. My Brain is Struggling with all that you have trained and have Educated us on. Ha, Ha,

  • @fxtheproducer
    @fxtheproducer 4 года назад +2

    Thank you for this lesson, I geeked throughout the entire pre-delay process! 70's magic in its intuitive simplicity✨🙏🏽

  • @AndrewMooreLearningLicks
    @AndrewMooreLearningLicks 4 года назад

    This is exactly how I like to apply Reverb to a track and I love that you said it's an old school way coz I love the old school. Great video thank you very much for 👍🏼